[01:07] <hfsplus> yo
[01:07] <hfsplus> High Fructose Corn Syrup
[08:09] <bazhang> firesword seems to add only noise afaict
[08:09]  * FireSword waves
[08:10] <bazhang> yes
[08:10] <bazhang> what is it FireSword
[08:10] <FireSword> Well, if you ask me, this is a little beyond.
[08:11] <FireSword> Anyway
[08:11] <bazhang> FireSword, you have been asked repeatedly to stop the excessive noise
[08:11] <bazhang> that includes all the /me sighs and so on
[08:12] <FireSword> I can barely type, so it is likely that I put 10 lines into the channel.
[08:12] <bazhang> FireSword, there is a very specific channel for that noise
[08:12] <FireSword> If I may
[08:12] <bazhang> #ubuntu is Not that channel FireSword
[08:13] <FireSword> Speak briefly
[08:13] <dax> I've seen you type just fine elsewhere, so this does not really seem like a problem you find insurmountable.
[08:13] <bazhang> please do so
[08:14] <FireSword> I like ubuntu, it may not be my favorite, but it might well be.
[08:15] <FireSword> I have spent years and years running unix and linux based systems. And my intention was always to share and teach.
[08:16] <FireSword> I am new here, but I have been running an irc net for over 20 years.
[08:17] <FireSword> I might make a joke sometime *shrug*
[08:17] <bazhang> FireSword, well don't
[08:18] <FireSword> I would like to know a little more about the support in 16.04 for the hw I have now.
[08:18] <bazhang> FireSword, if you are so experienced in irc, you can easily switch to an offtopic channel
[08:18] <FireSword> I read online and in blogs.
[08:18] <FireSword> Honestly
[08:18] <bazhang> FireSword, we are not here to discuss that at all
[08:19] <FireSword> This net is overall very strict about on and off topic.
[08:19] <bazhang> some channels are
[08:19] <FireSword> Which is fine
[08:19] <FireSword> But it takes getting used to
[08:19] <bazhang> FireSword, so please stay on topic, switch, like the rest of us to an offtopic channel for chit chat
[08:20] <FireSword> I wil try to
[08:20] <FireSword> Do my best
[08:21] <FireSword> I do have to say this
[08:21] <bazhang> FireSword, please do so, we are very clear about where to chit chat and where not to
[08:21] <FireSword> I admire the model of this net. Mine was started in 1996, and once it was the 4th largest.
[08:22] <FireSword> We limited the channels to no porno and o warez, and at the time, that dropped the userbase drastically.
[08:22] <FireSword> In a sense
[08:23] <FireSword> We were targeting what we didn't want instead of what we did want, like freenode did.
[08:23] <bazhang> FireSword, are we clear?
[08:26] <FireSword> bazhang, it has always been clear that any operator in a channel can do more or less what they like wrt the others in there.
[08:27] <FireSword> ubuntu is a fairly broad topic
[08:27] <bazhang> FireSword, not clear then
[08:29] <bazhang> FireSword, chatting *about* ubuntu is one thing, helping people fix their ubuntu issues is another issue entirely
[08:30] <FireSword> Well, like I said, I worked on OS dev for BSD/OS, and less for Solaris. The ISP I worked for had source licenses. I have been runnung ubuntu on my personal pcs and laptops since 2009.
[08:30] <FireSword> I might be able to help with some things.
[08:31] <FireSword> When I was in grad school in 2009, I took a systems administration and security class, and got a perfect 100%
[08:32] <FireSword> Getting back to the topic
[08:32] <FireSword> I have spent years in help channels on irc, and I thought I had the ability to determine when chat was interfering with help.
[08:33] <dax> Apparently you're under the impression that things are more complicated than they are, so allow me to clarify.
[08:33] <dax> #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support.
[08:34] <dax> #ubuntu is not for things that are not Ubuntu technical support.
[08:34] <dax> This continues to apply regardless of your opinions about how much technical support is needed at a given time.
[08:34] <FireSword> If you have a different tolerance level, then I will shut up and lurk until I can become more aware.
[08:34] <FireSword> If I decide to stay there.
[08:34] <FireSword> heh
[08:34] <FireSword> Or if I am allowed to :)
[08:34] <dax> So yes, if you do not have Ubuntu technical support to offer to the Ubuntu technical support channel at a time, please do feel free to "shut up and lurk".
[08:36] <FireSword> Oddly, really, most of the unix and linux systems seem the same to me.
[08:36] <FireSword> The BSD ATT split is a big difference.
[08:37] <FireSword> And linux is to me a hybrid, which I used to be irritated by.
[08:37] <dax> Are you under the impression that any of this is at all relevant or interesting?
[08:37] <FireSword> Not if you put it that way :P
[08:37] <dax> Because, it is not. We want you to behave in #ubuntu and not go offtopic. Going offtopic in #ubuntu's ops channel is neither productive nor engendering confidence in your ability to behave.
[08:38] <dax> So rather than most of the above, please just stop with the non-support chatter in #ubuntu and spare us and #ubuntu commentary on your life thusfar.
[08:41] <FireSword> I already said I will shut up and lurk should I decide to remain.
[08:43] <FireSword> Is there a reason for me to stay in here?
[08:48] <bazhang> FireSword, are we clear about the delineation between chit chat and support?
[08:52] <FireSword> I think we always were, with the exception of how you want the channel to proceed.
[08:52] <FireSword> Which is now clear, too.
[08:54] <FireSword> I apologize
[08:57] <FireSword> I am really bored, tho, so if I come into channels and make spurious remarks, it is just to entertain myself, but that is my responsibility, and I won't impose any unnecessary burden on you or your users.
[09:36] <bazhang> FireSword, as we are very clear about the on and offtopic chats, could you please exit here at this time, thanks
[10:13]  * FireSword looks both ways before crossing the street out and waves
[22:17] <dax> ikonia: banmask$##channel, not !