[01:07] yo [01:07] High Fructose Corn Syrup [07:25] lotuspsychje called the ops in #ubuntu (P`O`N`T`I`A`C spam) [08:09] firesword seems to add only noise afaict [08:09] * FireSword waves [08:10] yes [08:10] what is it FireSword [08:10] Well, if you ask me, this is a little beyond. [08:11] Anyway [08:11] FireSword, you have been asked repeatedly to stop the excessive noise [08:11] that includes all the /me sighs and so on [08:12] I can barely type, so it is likely that I put 10 lines into the channel. [08:12] FireSword, there is a very specific channel for that noise [08:12] If I may [08:12] #ubuntu is Not that channel FireSword [08:13] Speak briefly [08:13] I've seen you type just fine elsewhere, so this does not really seem like a problem you find insurmountable. [08:13] please do so [08:14] I like ubuntu, it may not be my favorite, but it might well be. [08:15] I have spent years and years running unix and linux based systems. And my intention was always to share and teach. [08:16] I am new here, but I have been running an irc net for over 20 years. [08:17] I might make a joke sometime *shrug* [08:17] FireSword, well don't [08:18] I would like to know a little more about the support in 16.04 for the hw I have now. [08:18] FireSword, if you are so experienced in irc, you can easily switch to an offtopic channel [08:18] I read online and in blogs. [08:18] Honestly [08:18] FireSword, we are not here to discuss that at all [08:19] This net is overall very strict about on and off topic. [08:19] some channels are [08:19] Which is fine [08:19] But it takes getting used to [08:19] FireSword, so please stay on topic, switch, like the rest of us to an offtopic channel for chit chat [08:20] I wil try to [08:20] Do my best [08:21] I do have to say this [08:21] FireSword, please do so, we are very clear about where to chit chat and where not to [08:21] I admire the model of this net. Mine was started in 1996, and once it was the 4th largest. [08:22] We limited the channels to no porno and o warez, and at the time, that dropped the userbase drastically. [08:22] In a sense [08:23] We were targeting what we didn't want instead of what we did want, like freenode did. [08:23] FireSword, are we clear? [08:26] bazhang, it has always been clear that any operator in a channel can do more or less what they like wrt the others in there. [08:27] ubuntu is a fairly broad topic [08:27] FireSword, not clear then [08:29] FireSword, chatting *about* ubuntu is one thing, helping people fix their ubuntu issues is another issue entirely [08:30] Well, like I said, I worked on OS dev for BSD/OS, and less for Solaris. The ISP I worked for had source licenses. I have been runnung ubuntu on my personal pcs and laptops since 2009. [08:30] I might be able to help with some things. [08:31] When I was in grad school in 2009, I took a systems administration and security class, and got a perfect 100% [08:32] Getting back to the topic [08:32] I have spent years in help channels on irc, and I thought I had the ability to determine when chat was interfering with help. [08:33] Apparently you're under the impression that things are more complicated than they are, so allow me to clarify. [08:33] #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. [08:34] #ubuntu is not for things that are not Ubuntu technical support. [08:34] This continues to apply regardless of your opinions about how much technical support is needed at a given time. [08:34] If you have a different tolerance level, then I will shut up and lurk until I can become more aware. [08:34] If I decide to stay there. [08:34] heh [08:34] Or if I am allowed to :) [08:34] So yes, if you do not have Ubuntu technical support to offer to the Ubuntu technical support channel at a time, please do feel free to "shut up and lurk". [08:36] Oddly, really, most of the unix and linux systems seem the same to me. [08:36] The BSD ATT split is a big difference. [08:37] And linux is to me a hybrid, which I used to be irritated by. [08:37] Are you under the impression that any of this is at all relevant or interesting? [08:37] Not if you put it that way :P [08:37] Because, it is not. We want you to behave in #ubuntu and not go offtopic. Going offtopic in #ubuntu's ops channel is neither productive nor engendering confidence in your ability to behave. [08:38] So rather than most of the above, please just stop with the non-support chatter in #ubuntu and spare us and #ubuntu commentary on your life thusfar. [08:41] I already said I will shut up and lurk should I decide to remain. [08:43] Is there a reason for me to stay in here? [08:48] FireSword, are we clear about the delineation between chit chat and support? [08:52] I think we always were, with the exception of how you want the channel to proceed. [08:52] Which is now clear, too. [08:54] I apologize [08:57] I am really bored, tho, so if I come into channels and make spurious remarks, it is just to entertain myself, but that is my responsibility, and I won't impose any unnecessary burden on you or your users. [09:36] FireSword, as we are very clear about the on and offtopic chats, could you please exit here at this time, thanks [10:13] * FireSword looks both ways before crossing the street out and waves [22:17] ikonia: banmask$##channel, not !