[10:43] <EvilAngel> i wonder if zfs gets loaded before the x server gets started
[10:49] <EvilAngel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXy7JBTosbs
[10:49] <EvilAngel> oh shit
[10:49] <EvilAngel> sorry
[12:02] <Mis-anthrope> the best thing about a newly installed ubuntu server.... it comes with no destop environment!
[12:37] <Mis-anthrope> I am trying to install virtual box guest additions.. and it fails everytime.. after some searching online, I realised the problem could be with the linux headers. Now, when I am removing the headers, I have the option of removing generic headers or actual header file linux-headers-4.4.0-31.. which one should I remove..
[12:49] <Walex> Mis-anthrope: well, the generic one depends on the version one, so if you remove the generic one the version one will also be removed by default.
[12:50] <Walex> Mis-anthrope: but is is very unlikely that the right version headers for your kernel give VirtualBox trouble.
[12:51] <tomreyn> i concur. removing kernel headers wont solve a problem
[12:51] <Mis-anthrope> Walex: I had the same issue in ubuntu desktop so all I did was update the kernel headers..
[12:51] <Mis-anthrope> but the kernels are showing up to date in this case
[12:51] <tomreyn> which variant of virtualbox are you using, the one from ubuntu or oracles' packages?
[12:52] <Mis-anthrope> oracle's one
[12:52] <Mis-anthrope> its vbox 5.1.2
[12:52] <tomreyn> are you using this on a server?
[12:52] <Mis-anthrope> yes.. I am
[12:53] <tomreyn> why dont use use a proper HVM virtualization?
[12:53] <Mis-anthrope> the error log for vboxguesteditions suggests I install gcc and make which I am doing now
[12:53] <tomreyn> virtualbox is desktop virtualization
[12:53] <Mis-anthrope> ik
[12:53] <Mis-anthrope> I dont want bare metal
[12:53] <Mis-anthrope> I just wanna play around with ubuntu server in vbox first..
[12:54] <tomreyn> so your host is a desktop, runnign virtualbox, and below that you got ubuntu-server?
[12:54] <Mis-anthrope> yes
[12:54] <tomreyn> ah, okay that makes sense then
[12:54] <Mis-anthrope> I dont want any bare metal virtualization till I am comfy with ubuntu server on type 2
[12:55] <tomreyn> so your desktop runs which version of ubuntu, and the VM is which version of ubuntu-server?
[12:57] <tomreyn> and whats the output you get when you try to install the guest utils on the ubuntu-server ?
[12:57] <tomreyn> (use !pastebin / !pastebinit )
[13:00] <Mis-anthrope> my desktop is windows 10.1/x64(to my despair) and I am running ubuntu 16.04 server(32 bit)
[13:08] <tomreyn> thanks for providing some (but not all) of the information i asked for. ;)
[13:11] <Mis-anthrope> um thats cuz my problem has now evolved :(
[13:17] <tomreyn> sorry to hear that
[13:17] <Mis-anthrope> me too :\
[14:00] <Mis-anthrope> I need to understand the differences between Xorg.. X11.. desktop environement... display servers... window managers... any good books/links?
[14:59] <Mis-anthrope> has anyone here used Ubuntu 16.04 server?
[17:45] <funabashi> hey guys i had 2 unwanted reboots on my linux machine today. which important logs can i go for to find out the root cause ?
[17:55] <tomreyn> funabashi: /var/log/syslog* /var/log/dmesg* /var/log/auth.log*
[17:56] <tomreyn> funabashi: start by using 'last' to determine the reboot times, then look at these logs near these timestamps
[18:00] <funabashi> tomreyn: ok i checked those files and i found nothing intresting
[18:01] <funabashi> its a vps on KVM and the provider told me they got no issues..
[18:01] <funabashi> dmesg file doesnt have timestamps
[18:02] <tomreyn> if there's nothing on the logs then it means it's a hardware issue. which, in the case of virtualization, means it's a virtualization error.
[18:03] <tomreyn> your provider may not spend time on investigating thier logs until you state that you have reviewed your logs and not found indication of a software malfunction.
[18:04] <tomreyn> if, after you stated this, and went over this with them repeatedly, they still claim its not an issu eon their part without providing anything to back that claim up, then you should switch to a different provider.
[18:43] <duper> does anyone know of terminal software that's capable of the VGA-style 24-bit true color w/ ANSI color escape codes besides suckless st? looking for something that's more..well, featureful.
[20:50] <rizonz> which caching resolver is recommended for local usage ?