[00:00] <Crell> Jordan_U: After doing which step, exactly?  (To get a clean output.)
[00:00] <Crell> (I'm doing other work at the same time.)
[00:00] <UserUS> failed to enumerate oFono devices: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service files
[00:00] <jon___> Crell: just don't fuck up your dd if/of parameters. this is key.
[00:01] <Jordan_U> UserUS: Watch your language in this channel please.
[00:01] <bazhang> jon___, no cursing here
[00:01] <jon___> apologies.
[00:02] <UserUS> Jordan_U: what?
[00:02] <jon___> that was aimed at me :D
[00:02] <jon___> i have a potty-mouth
[00:03] <Crell> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23640396/ - dmesg output after inserting USB key; running usb-creator -kde doesn't chage the output.
[00:07] <jon___> did i just read that Nvidia's proprietary driver does not support Wayland?
[00:08] <Guest24861> hello, is there some easy way to know what package a library is part of? I'm getting this error libGLEW.so.2.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, but every result in google i've found has had a similar error but with an older version
[00:08] <nacc> Guest24861: apt-file search <filename>
[00:17] <Crell> Jordan_U: Does that dmesg output suggest anything to you?
[00:20] <Jordan_U> Crell: It suggests that you're not having a hardware problem. I expect that dd will work. Be sure to use "lsblk" and "blkid" to be sure that you have the correct of= parameter. If you get the of= wrong then you could wipe all data on the wrong drive. You *will* wipe all data from the target drive, so back up anything on the USB drive first.
[00:22] <cornered> I think I'm having a problem with file encodings. When importing a mysqldump I'm receiving "syntax errors" related to backslashes in the file. These dumps import fine on OSX, and other computers with the same Ubuntu/MySQL configuration (afaik). I managed to work around that by setting the default-character-set option during the import. I'm now running into an issue with PHP failing to retrieve a date object from the file system cac
[00:22] <cornered> Both of these issues are isolated to this machine. I'm not sure where to look to troubleshoot this.
[00:23] <hiexpo> cornered, look in your logs
[00:23] <KeyboardNotFound> Is problem with AMD Driver solved in ubuntu 16.10 ?
[00:24] <hiexpo> !amd
[00:26] <hiexpo> !amd KeyboardNotFound
[00:26] <KeyboardNotFound> hiexpo: thanks, But I don't know what is GCN1.2
[00:29] <Crell> Jordan_U: Hrm.  Why would usb-creator be crapping out then?
[00:31] <Crell> Jordan_U: And... Well this is very weird.  This USED to be a 16.04 USB key.  But now the name on it is 16.10.
[00:31] <hiexpo> !dd
[00:31] <Crell> Might gnome-multiwriter it have worked but not told me?
[00:31] <hiexpo> use dd
[00:32] <cornered> Nothing in syslog/mysql/php logs relative to these errors, aside from php/mysql telling me what they told me in the exception. I don't see any errors in syslog other that some for notify-osd and a couple ATA bus errors during startup
[00:35] <cornered> After manually escaping the single backslash in the cached file it works fine now.
[00:41] <anonymous> #chromium
[01:03] <yangm97> is there a tutorial for booting ubuntu 16.04 using UEFI stub (no grub) and zfs root?
[01:03] <yangm97> or 16.04, I don't mind...
[01:03] <yangm97> *or 16.10
[01:09] <R13ose> How do I update flash in terminal?
[01:14] <Guest24861> apt-file search libGLEW.so.2.0 gave no output
[01:17] <patientplatypus> hello everyone
[01:17] <Dr_Coke> BoltCutter to break those bolts and chains
[01:17] <Dr_Coke> You've suffered more then anyone can take
[01:18] <patientplatypus> i was hoping someone here could help me with an installation problem
[01:18] <Dr_Coke> Hi patientplatypus
[01:18] <patientplatypus> yo coke
[01:18] <bazhang> Dr_Coke, stay on topic here
[01:18] <Dr_Coke> oh
[01:19] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my problem?
[01:22] <patientplatypus> if there is anyone who is willing to troubleshoot an ubuntu installation problem for a newbie, please pm me. I would really appreciate it.
[01:23] <tgm4883> patientplatypus: nobody is going to do that. If you have an issue, state it in the channel
[01:24] <Bashing-om> patientplatypus: State your issue to the channel . perhaps one has a solutiuon to offr ?
[01:31] <winsen_> hi all
[01:31] <winsen_> I need to reeinstall Thunderbird, how can I remove properly ?
[01:31] <xangua> winsen_: why do you need to reinstall thunderbird in first place?
[01:32] <R13ose> How do I update flash in terminal?
[01:32] <patientplatypus> alright. So here's the issue: I am trying to install Ubuntu as a dual boot os on a new windows 10 dell xps 15. I've followed all the steps online including turning off the fast boot option in windows and partitioning some free space to put the new os on. So I boot up into a "try version" of the ubuntu os using my boot usb drive and I go through the installation window. However, there is no
[01:32] <patientplatypus> window that looks like this: http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Select-Ubuntu-16.04-Installation-Type.png. It just skips to the partition window, which only sees my USB drive and not my main hard drive. I have absolutely no idea how to fix this issue.
[01:36] <R13ose> Seems no one can help me
[01:37] <xangua> R13ose: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[01:37] <patientplatypus> brb going to fuck with my bios might be back
[01:42] <R13ose> xangua: thanks but there are 2 packages been held back and still old version of flash
[01:44] <Pepe> Hello guys. It is possible to install Ubuntu (or Ubuntu server) to USB pen drive like FreeNAS?
[01:45] <garywhite> Hi everyone. Is anyone interested in a completely free Minecraft-like game that works on virtually any platform?
[01:46] <tgm4883> garywhite: not really the place for advertising
[01:46] <guest84019> is it possible to keep all boot related files on a single partition on a external device(usb)?
[01:47] <garywhite> I'm not advertising, I'm just trying to say if anyone is interested please send me a PM. If that's not allowed to say that then I'll stop
[01:47] <tgm4883> garywhite: this is the support channel, and that is not a support question. You might try #ubuntu-offtopic but even then, it's not something that really needs a PM
[01:48] <garywhite> ok, sorry for doing that. Carry on
[01:49] <guest84019> if i run grub-install to a external device(eg grub-install /dev/sdb) will all boot related files be on that usb?
[01:52] <patientplatypus> Ok reposting my question. I went into the windows bios and turned off secure boot, and fast boot. So those aren't the issue. Here's the question for the new people:  I am trying to install Ubuntu as a dual boot os on a new windows 10 dell xps 15. I've followed all the steps online including turning off the fast boot option in windows and partitioning some free space to put the new os on. So I
[01:52] <patientplatypus> boot up into a "try version" of the ubuntu os using my boot usb drive and I go through the installation window. However, there is no window that looks like this: http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Select-Ubuntu-16.04-Installation-Type.png. It just skips to the partition window, which only sees my USB drive and not my main hard drive. I have absolutely no idea how to fix this
[01:52] <patientplatypus> issue.
[01:59] <Bashing-om> patientplatypus: Boot back into "try ubuntu" and show the channel the output of ' parted -l '- in a pastebin. We see then what we are working with .
[01:59] <patientplatypus> what is parted -1. do i just type that in terminal
[02:00] <squinty> l not "1"
[02:00] <patientplatypus> parted -l. I type this in the terminal window?
[02:00] <squinty> yes
[02:00] <patientplatypus> ok gg brb
[02:02] <R13ose> Any help with my question?
[02:02] <bazhang> R13ose, you were already answered
[02:03] <R13ose> bazhang: yes but flash wasn't updated
[02:03] <Bashing-om> patriciadomin: parted .. is PARtitiom EDitor . see in terminal: ' man parted ' for the manual page on this command . 'q to quit the man page .
[02:03] <bazhang> R13ose, then it's not meant to be
[02:05] <R13ose> bazhang: I looked at the current version on the flash version page and says linux has a higher version then the one I have installed.
[02:05] <bazhang> R13ose, what browser are you using
[02:05] <R13ose> bazhang: opera
[02:06] <bazhang> R13ose, then why ask here
[02:06] <R13ose> Fine
[02:07] <OneM_Industries> Hey, how would I put the output of ls into a file for later reference?
[02:07] <wedgie> OneM_Industries: ls > somefile     though what "later reference" would this be?
[02:07] <xangua> R13ose: for opera you need to install the chrome fresh player thing
[02:07] <squinty> ls >> file
[02:07] <xangua> Or something like that, sorry I use Firefox
[02:08] <OneM_Industries> Mainly just being able to show someone the contents of a folder, thank you!
[02:08] <R13ose> xangua: like pepper?
[02:08] <xangua> R13ose: pepper flash, I believe that is
[02:08] <wedgie> OneM_Industries: ok, that's fine. Just be aware that ls output is dangerous to use in scripts. But as long as it's just for a human to look at that's fine
[02:09] <OneM_Industries> Ok, good to know.
[02:09] <OneM_Industries> Thank you!
[02:09] <xangua> (basically downloads google chrome and extracts flash plugin)
[02:09] <R13ose> Ok.  Yet, how do I upgrade flash anyways?
[02:10] <patientplatypus> alright I'm back
[02:10] <patientplatypus> here
[02:10] <patientplatypus> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[02:10] <patientplatypus> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[02:10] <patientplatypus> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ parted -l
[02:10] <patientplatypus> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$  parted -l
[02:10] <patientplatypus> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ' parted -l '
[02:10] <patientplatypus>  parted -l : command not found
[02:10] <patientplatypus> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l
[02:10] <squinty> sudo apt install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[02:12] <R13ose> squinty: already installed
[02:12] <squinty> R13ose, you are up to date then (as far as the repo's are concerned)
[02:16] <R13ose> squinty: the version in ubuntu software sources is correct but I tested the flash version in firefox and still old.  How do I match the two?
[02:18] <madid> hey all. my 16.04 boot stops at a solid purple screen. Loading from a live USB works but it does not detect the original installation. I cannot connect to network in recovery mode and failsafeX comes back with 'low graphics' Any ideas?
[02:18] <xangua> ! Info | flashplugin-installer
[02:19] <xangua> !info | flashplugin-installer
[02:19] <bazhang> no need for a pipe there xangua
[02:20] <squinty> R13...hmmm...thought I had freshplayer install on this box but it appears that I have "adobe-flashplugin" currently displays my videos in firefox.  might want to check that out
[02:20] <xangua> Can't remember the factoid but latest Netscape flash plugin is 24
[02:20] <squinty> displays/displaying
[02:20] <Bashing-om> !info  adobe-flashplugin
[02:21] <bazhang> xangua, msg the bot find package
[02:21] <xangua> !info flashplugin-installer
[02:21] <squinty> i A adobe-flashplugin               - Adobe Flash Player plugin on 16.04
[02:23] <R13ose> squinty: I have flashplugin-installer 24.0.0.186ubuntu0.16.10.1 installed but in the browsers says 23,0,0,185 installed
[02:23] <squinty> R13ose,  here I have shockwave flash 23.0
[02:24] <R13ose> squinty: should I remove the package and reinstall?
[02:25] <squinty> R13ose, are you having problems with the installed version.  if yes. then try sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin
[02:26] <xangua> R13ose: what Ubuntu release are you on?
[02:26] <R13ose> 16.10
[02:27] <R13ose> squi
[02:27] <R13ose> squinty: I installed adobe flashplugin
[02:27] <squinty> ohhh....actually just noticed that I also have browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash installed too
[02:28] <squinty> on 16.04 here
[02:33] <R13ose> squinty: I uninstalled the package I mentioned and reinstalled
[02:35] <i_and_i> i have version 24.0.0.186ubuntu0.16.04.1
[02:35] <i_and_i> it's the latest version
[02:38] <R13ose> i_and_i: yes but what does the adobe flash version webpage version say?
[02:39] <hello> hello there
[02:39] <hello> I want to run apache2 with my external IP
[02:41] <hello> hello
[02:41] <hello> ?
[02:42] <i_and_i> rose lemme check
[02:43] <imbezol> anyone have any experience using a steam controller for emulators?
[02:43] <imbezol> it acts as a mouse when i plug it in rather than a joystick
[02:43] <i_and_i> the adobe website says Version 24.0.0.186
[02:44] <squinty> at https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html is says I have 24.0.0.186 installed
[02:44] <R13ose> That is exactly what I want but says 23 for me
[02:45] <R13ose> i_and_i squinty how do I go from 23 to 24?
[02:46] <i_and_i> rose .. do you have Synaptic Package Manager ?
[02:47] <i_and_i> there you can see which version you have installed
[02:48] <tgm4883> !tab | i_and_i
[02:49] <i_and_i> tgm thanks
[02:49] <squinty> R13ose,  what I have installed here is: browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash, adobe-flash-properties-gtk and adobe-flashplugin
[02:49] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Mine : " dpkg -l flashplugin-installer >> ii  flashplugin-in 24.0.0.186ub amd64 " .
[02:50] <R13ose> i_and_i: I have ubuntu software centre that says version 24 of the package is installed
[02:51] <R13ose> Bashing-om: same
[02:52] <i_and_i> R13ose .. maybe the updater failed to download some files, plz try Software Updater
[02:52] <squinty> hmmm.... dpkg -l flashplugin-installer gives flashplugin-in 11.2.202.637 amd64  on 16.04
[02:52] <i_and_i> i get that sometimes with Adobe plugin installer too
[02:55] <i_and_i> maybe the Flash for Ubuntu was discontinued by Adobe
[02:59] <squinty> https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ shows Version 24.0.0.186 for "APT for debian/ubuntu" fwiw
[02:59] <R13ose> i_and_i: I did the software update with no flash updates.
[03:00] <i_and_i> R13ose.. what does it say on this page ?  : https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[03:00] <i_and_i> which version you have
[03:01] <i_and_i> for me it says "You have version 24,0,0,186 installed"
[03:01] <Manish_Rai3> #django
[03:01] <zykotick9> imbezol: regarding the joystick acting like a mouse... i'd remove the xserver-xorg-input-joystick package.
[03:02] <R13ose> Oh says 24 now, once I downloaded the APT version of flash and installed that
[03:02] <i_and_i> awesome :D
[03:02] <i_and_i> you are fully updated
[03:03] <R13ose> One sec
[03:04] <imbezol> zykotick9: i don't have that package installed
[03:06] <R13ose> i_and_i: I am rebooting to see if all users get the same version
[03:09] <R13ose> Thanks everyone for the help.  This is working now.
[03:09] <arturo_> hi, how can I remove this repo: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes    ?  I used it to install python3.4
[03:09] <zykotick9> imbezol: wow... i got nothin' then, best of luck!  note, that xserver-xorg-input-joystick package has cause me a lot of grief before i learned of it's sinister name...
[03:10] <xangua> !ppa-purge | arturo_
[03:10] <arturo_> thanks
[03:17] <hello> Hello Psi-jack
[04:17] <Totoroko> behold
[04:18] <Totoroko> who're the mods?
[04:22] <stein2843> so why are you use IRC,whats the advantage with normal chat software
[04:23] <sam_____> When i try to install phpmyadmin on ubuntu 16.0.4, am getting Unable to locate package phpmyadmin. i had uninstalled phpmyadmin, and was trying to install it back
[04:23] <cornered> Files that contain backslashes are causing issues with various applications. Trying to import MySQL dumps with them are giving me syntax errors due to the slashes not escaping properly. PHP7 is giving exceptions when trying to unserialize data from the file system cache. Neither syslog or mysql/php logs are giving me anything that appears to be related. These specific files have been imported/cached/uncached on another ubuntu machi
[04:24] <sam_____> tried to update packagelist with sudo apt-get update and tried to install phpmyadmin with sudo apt-get install phpmysqladmin
[04:25] <sam_____> how do i resolve the error "Unable to locate package phpmyadmin"?
[04:29] <stein2843> samiul[m], i think there is no phpmyadmin in the software source
[04:30] <sam_____> stein2843:  from this link, how do i add  the universe repository info into my /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[04:30] <sam_____> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1799973
[04:33] <stein2843> i tried and it works sucessfully
[04:33] <stein2843> all right im just a noob
[04:34] <sam_____> errrr
[04:35] <stein2843>  sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[04:51] <kneejerk_> I tried to boot my laptop from a bootable ubuntu usb, and it starts to load ubuntu but never actually finishes.  I've tried it in legacy and UEFI and neither seem to get past the initial loading screen
[04:52] <stein2843> kneejerk_, cant into LiveCD？
[04:52] <kneejerk_> stein2843 correct
[04:54] <Peppernrino> hello. i'm having some trouble with /etc/rc.local keeping a setting through reboot.
[04:55] <Peppernrino> i enter a line, and when i log back in, it's gone. :\
[04:56] <Peppernrino> i was thinking about upstart... i just want something that starts a program on boot, but i need to configure it through a bash script, so easy is good.
[04:57] <Peppernrino> sed '$isu - username -c daemon' /etc/rc.local
[04:57] <Peppernrino> that's what i used.
[05:13] <stein2843> hello，anyone solved tearing UI?
[05:13] <stein2843> AND VIDEO
[05:31] <tominator> Ello mates
[05:31] <kostkon> hi
[05:38] <s5s> hi
[05:44] <karan> quit
[05:48] <XeAnime> Hay
[05:48] <XeAnime> How's Everyone???
[05:48] <winston2k> hi
[05:48] <idontknowprogram> hi
[05:49] <XeAnime> Hello :)
[05:49] <idontknowprogram> why doesnt exist a slackware channel?
[05:50] <XeAnime> IDK??
[05:50] <XeAnime> Dose Anyone Know Xbox360?? Or PS3??
[05:51] <XeAnime> :(
[05:55] <jackprb> hello eveyone
[05:55] <jackprb> I have tried to install lubuntu 16.10, but it gives me this error:
[05:55] <jackprb> lubuntu the grub-pc package failed to install into /target/. without the grub boot loader the instaled system will not boot
[05:55] <jackprb> Any known ways to solve this?
[05:57] <jackprb> folks, can someone be nice enough and help me please?
[05:57] <jackprb> ^ that came out wrong
[05:57] <winston2k> 16.10 isnt LTS my only recomendation is install 16.04
[05:57] <morf> if somebody would know they would tell you
[05:58] <jackprb> winston2k : You know I am talking about Lubuntu and not ubuntu, right?
[05:58] <idontknowprogram> are you missing a EFI partition?
[05:58] <winston2k> 16.10 isnt LTS my only recomendation is install 16.04/
[05:58] <winston2k> woops
[05:58] <jackprb> winston2k : gotcha
[05:59] <jackprb> idontknowprogram : I think I am, this is a very old machine, no EFI possible
[05:59] <morf> jackprb: is you internet connection working during installation?
[06:00] <jackprb> morf : no, should it?
[06:00] <winston2k> lubuntu ubuntu same core i think
[06:00] <morf> jackprb: yes i think it should
[06:00] <morf> some quick research suggest that could be the issue
[06:00] <jackprb> morf: will it solve the issue? Cause I really don't want to waste traffic
[06:01] <winston2k> 16.10 has bugs not as stable as 16.04
[06:01] <morf> dunno
[06:01] <jackprb> ok
[06:01] <jackprb> thanks guys
[06:01] <jackprb> <3 and peace
[06:02] <winston2k> peace
[06:02] <idontknowprogram> try bootrepair
[06:02] <jackprb> idontknowprogram: I am gonna go for LTS. but I don't think it will solve the issue either
[06:05] <winston2k> also make sure its the correct iso 64 or 32bit
[06:06] <idontknowprogram> if the problem is just the bootloader,maybe bootrepair can be usefull.this help me many times
[06:06] <puffinz> :P
[06:07] <winston2k> we givin bad advice puffinz
[06:08] <puffinz> Only use apple products?
[06:08] <winston2k> ah
[06:08] <puffinz> pretty bad advice eh ;)
[06:08] <winston2k> well puffinz welcome to ubuntu channel
[06:09] <nkr_> Anyone test unity8 /mir gaming?
[06:16] <puffinz> Yeah, its not my first rodeo
[06:31] <rogo> ahoy! no real  problem to mention this time. I bought bigger SSD. should i use fresh install of Xubuntu or use Clonezilla??
[06:32] <yoloswag420> SHET MY XBL IS CHINESE ???
[06:34] <Oncom> hi
[06:34] <Oncom> greeting all
[06:35] <Sorch> Hai
[06:36] <Oncom> how xterm can copy and paste?
[06:37] <Ben64> select text to copy, middle click to paste
[06:37] <kostkon> Oncom, hi
[06:39] <sucod> hello there:)
[06:40] <sucod> i have no audio coming out from my ubuntu 16.04, when i test audio in test , it makes sound but while playing any audio in player, no voice comes ; pls help
[06:40] <Oncom> Can be changed by ctrl + c to copy and ctrl + v to paste?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !sound | sucod
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> rogo: i would recommend fresh install on new ssd, wich brand and type?
[06:45] <lxleuser__> hello guys
[06:45] <kostkon> hi
[06:46] <lxleuser__> im pretty new to linux would like to know the command to install and uninstall apps
[06:47] <sucod> !sound
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> !manual | lxleuser__
[06:47] <rogo> samsung, 1 GB. i'll do fresh install.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> rogo: wich type of samsung evo? pro?
[06:47] <lxleuser__> by the way im not on the lxle irc cause their community sucks theirs virtually nobody on there
[06:47] <lxleuser__> thanks alot guys
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> lxleuser__: please keep the channel familly friendly
[06:47] <yoloswag420> hay
[06:49] <sucod> !players
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> rogo: before you fresh install, check samsungs website for firmware upgrades (if available)
[06:51] <lxleuser__> do any of you know how long will ubuntu 14:0 lts will be supported
[06:52] <kostkon> lxleuser__, 14.04?
[06:54] <lxleuser__> i think yes
[06:54] <Ben64> LTS versions are supported for 5 years
[06:54] <kostkon> lxleuser__, is it ubuntu or lubuntu?
[06:54] <lxleuser__> lubuntu
[06:55] <lxleuser__> well its based on lubuntu 14:04
[06:55] <Ben64> what is it
[06:56] <lxleuser__> i dont think this is an lts version i might have to uninstall
[06:56] <mistform> anyone know how to get an SD card out of read-only mode?
[06:57] <mistform> i tried the locking slider and it doesn't do anything (micro SD doesn't have it, it's only on the SD adapter)
[06:58] <yoloswag420> anyone have xbl trial codes
[06:58] <lxleuser__> would like to get ubuntu but without all the bells and whistles of unity just wanted a simple and lightweght dsitro
[06:58] <mistform> i'm using xubuntu. it uses xfce
[06:59] <lxleuser__> does it have LTS
[06:59] <winston2k> try ubuntu mate 16.04.1 LTS
[07:01] <mistform> yes, xubuntu 16.04 has LTS  until 04/19
[07:02] <rogo> samsung evo 950 1 TB
[07:02] <lxleuser__> my laptop just retarted by itself
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> rogo: check samsung site for firmware perhaps
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> rogo: if no firmware is available, clean install with ubuntu will go rocketfast
[07:23] <P`O`N`T`I`A`C> Pontiac is an acronym
[07:23] <P`O`N`T`I`A`C> someone guess what it stands for?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[07:24] <P`O`N`T`I`A`C> Poor Old Nigger Thinks It's a Cadillac
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[07:25] <P`O`N`T`I`A`C> °•○●□■♤♡◇♧`] Hello 》》》》》》•][▪》~《
[07:34] <iamawesome> Hi, sudo rm -rf /*; or su - ; then rm -rf /* , is there any difference?
[07:35] <iamawesome> What's the benifit of using sudo?
[07:35] <geirha> You couldn't come up with a less destructive command to use in the example?
[07:36] <geirha> but anyway, both will hose your system equally well
[07:37] <iamawesome> So what's the benifit of using sudo?
[07:38] <geirha> There are many. For one, you don't need to know the root password
[07:38] <iamawesome> Is there any root password for ubuntu?
[07:39] <geirha> no
[07:41] <iamawesome> Both commands will delete everything, so is there any other benifit using sudo?
[07:41] <iamawesome> Will sudo prevent to delete from / ?
[07:45] <geirha> depends what privileges have been configured for the user. One can give a user access to run only this and that command as root for instance
[07:47] <enyc> interestingly the rm command has some built in protection from deleting /
[07:47] <FireSword> Other than having it setuid root, and setting the owner, group, and world permissions?
[07:47] <enyc> i think you now have to add something like --no-remove-root
[07:48] <FireSword> some versions of rm do
[07:48] <enyc>  --no-preserve-root
[07:48] <enyc> at least in debian ubuntu version at the omment seemingly
[07:49] <lion_> hey guys
[07:49] <geirha> the * overrides that safeguard
[07:49] <enyc> ';p
[07:49] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[07:50] <bazhang> we are not here to tell people how to wreck their systems
[07:50] <FireSword> heh
[07:50] <FireSword> windows does that well enough
[07:50] <lion_> ubuntu mate is such a punk as*hole
[07:50] <lxleuser__> hello does anyone know how to upgrade bash
[07:50] <bazhang> lion_, no cursing here
[07:51] <lion_> I am so sorry
[07:51] <FireSword> May I curse just one small --->||<--- bit?
[07:51] <bazhang> !ot > FireSword
[07:52] <lxleuser__> what is the command to upgrade bash shell
[07:53] <geirha> lxleuser__: Ubuntu has a stable release cycle, so newer bash version will not be available until you upgrade to the next release
[07:53] <enyc> lxleuser__: is there some reason you want a different version of bash for a particular thing ???
[07:53] <FireSword> Seems a little annoying
[07:54] <geirha> lxleuser__: so what bash version do you have, and what is it missing?
[07:54] <lxleuser__> im trying to upgrade because of security concerns
[07:54] <FireSword> I have to register a nick onna website after registering it on here?
[07:54] <geirha> security bugs will be backported if necessary
[07:55] <geirha> s/bugs/fixes
[07:55] <geirha> upgrading the bash version will not make it more secure
[07:56] <Ben64> lxleuser__: are you still on not really ubuntu
[07:56] <lxleuser__> i read this article http://lifehacker.com/how-to-check-if-your-mac-or-linux-machine-is-vulnerable-1639211806
[07:56] <enyc> lxleuser__: if you look on  http://packages.ubuntu.com/bash  you will see xenial release version .1 is now a xenial-updates release version 1.1,  if you cliclk through to that you can then click on "ubuntu changelog" .....
[07:56]  * FireSword sighs
[07:57] <FireSword> bazhang, what was all of that abbout?
[07:57] <FireSword> -b
[07:57] <lxleuser__> im on a fork of lubuntu 14:04 lts
[07:57] <geirha> lxleuser__: All supported ubuntu versions have shellshock patches for bash
[07:57] <Ben64> lxleuser__: so you're not on ubuntu, so you're not supported by this channel unfortunately
[07:58] <bazhang> FireSword, what is the issue
[07:58] <lxleuser__> i ran the code and im vulnerable
[07:58] <bazhang> lxleuser__, what variant is that
[07:58] <Ben64> lxleuser__: cool, take it up with the support for your distro
[07:58] <enyc> lxleuser__: so, your forx isn't updating bash ?
[07:58] <lxleuser__> there all the same thing dude just different desktop enviroments
[07:58] <Ben64> lxleuser__: incorrect
[07:58] <bazhang> lxleuser__, what variant
[07:58] <FireSword> None, atm. I was joking around.
[07:58] <lxleuser__> ben why so much hate
[07:59] <Ben64> no hate, just informing you
[07:59] <lxleuser__> life is too short to have so much bitterness u need to chill
[07:59] <bazhang> FireSword, please stop the chit chat here, we have a place for it in the offtopic channel, thanks
[07:59] <FireSword> I do wanna convert this laptop to ububtu studio 16.04.
[07:59] <FireSword> ubuntu too
[08:00] <bazhang> lxleuser__, have you told us the variant yet
[08:00] <FireSword> I backed everything up, but I was wondering if the hw is supported.
[08:00] <bazhang> FireSword, might try a live usb to test, just in case
[08:01] <FireSword> I looked around online, and it seems so so.
[08:01] <lxleuser__> and btw ben im here because the support team for lxle linux is non existant even on here but since lxle is a fork of ubuntu i figured i can get some help here and im also new to this so take it easy
[08:01] <Ben64> lxleuser__:  if support is important to you, maybe choose a distro that has it
[08:01] <bazhang> lxleuser__, so the variant is lxle?
[08:01] <lxleuser__> yes
[08:01] <The> test
[08:02] <bazhang> lxleuser__, it's not supported here, but perhaps you can find the channel using alis here on freenode
[08:03] <The> so first time using mirc and linux having fun and learning alot :p
[08:03] <FireSword> I haven't prodded into ubuntu much. But, I used to be in charge of BSD/OS development for Worldcom.
[08:04] <The> thats awesome! I just do IT for the archdiocese
[08:04] <bazhang> FireSword, perhaps check out the ubuntu manual free pdf
[08:04] <The> XD
[08:04] <The> yea I think I need to check that out
[08:04] <bazhang> !manual | FireSword the
[08:04] <FireSword> The, I also have a doctorate in divinity :P
[08:04] <lxleuser__> linux is not noob friendly
[08:04] <FireSword> heh
[08:05] <bazhang> lxleuser__, did you want assistance finding the lxle support channel here on freenore
[08:05] <The> yea I know I cant even use apple products
[08:05] <The> Im in over my head lolol
[08:05] <FireSword> I can make ubuntu do almost anything I want. But this PC has some newer HW, and I am noy so sure there are drivers.
[08:05] <lxleuser__> im actually on a mac os i get you
[08:05] <bazhang> the well have a read of the manual I linked to you first
[08:05] <The> so i just turned this cromebook into a split chrome os / linus running unity
[08:06] <lxleuser__> macbook pro
[08:06] <The> its cool
[08:06] <lion_> see ya guys
[08:06] <The> o/
[08:06] <bazhang> the we have an offtopic channel for chat, here is strictly support
[08:06] <FireSword> My Boss's custom license plate was RTFM
[08:06] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic the
[08:07] <lxleuser__> why so strict ?
[08:07] <bazhang> this is a very busy support channel lxleuser__
[08:07] <bazhang> !alis | lxleuser__
[08:07] <bazhang>  /msg alis list lxle   lxleuser__
[08:07] <lxleuser__> i think im replacing this os very soon probably try out ubuntu
[08:08] <bazhang> fo there for lxle support lxleuser__
[08:08]  * FireSword rubs his butt
[08:08] <bazhang> FireSword, thats enough
[08:08] <lxleuser__> i cant even get root and my audio is not working
[08:08] <joegiampaoli>  trying to hide "suspend" option. In Debian this is done by editing </usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy> No such file in xubuntu...
[08:08] <kostkon> lxleuser__, judging by your comments you should give ubuntu a try
[08:08] <joegiampaoli> I tried editing </usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.xfce.power.policy> without success
[08:09] <lxleuser__> koston dont judge
[08:09] <FireSword> bazhang, pm briefly?
[08:09] <lxleuser__> everyone has to start somewhere i didnt being a noob was taboo
[08:09] <bazhang> FireSword, #ubuntu-ops
[08:10] <bazhang> lxleuser__, you please need to stop the commentary here and find the lxle support channel
[08:10] <lxleuser__> im using a fork of ubutnu
[08:25] <stein2843>  why its ipv6
[08:26] <lion__> anyonw who has run  ubuntu 16.04 mate on raspberry pi3b+?
[08:28] <lion__> not cool
[08:31] <Azusss> hello guys
[08:32] <uxfi> hello Azusss good morning
[08:33] <lion__> good afternoon
[08:33] <Azusss> no problem at this moment
[08:33] <uxfi> hello lion__
[08:33] <uxfi> greetings
[08:33] <uxfi> hello subhojit777
[08:34] <Azusss> lion is a french man
[08:34] <uxfi> hm?
[08:34] <lion__> its 16:33 in china
[08:34] <lion__> i am a chinese boy jajaja
[08:35] <Azusss> dac lion is a french word to
[08:36] <Researcher> hi
[08:36] <lion__> french?
[08:37] <Azusss> hi Researcher
[08:37] <lion__> hi Researcher
[08:38] <drjam> careful with the human banter, some mods dont like that in here
[08:38] <Researcher> I am trying to change the bash prompt by modifying the PS1, I want to change the PS1 for all users, i put the bash script in /etc/profile.d but it is not working, Can some one help me how to change PS1 for all ssh users in ubuntu 14.04
[08:38] <Researcher> hello Azusss and lion__
[08:38] <lion__> Wow you turn green
[08:39] <Researcher> O_o
[08:39] <Researcher> between the welcome message which i put in /etc/profile
[08:39] <Researcher> between the welcome message which i put in /etc/profile.d is working well for all ssh users, but PS1 changes are not working..
[08:40] <Researcher> Can any one help me ?
[08:42] <Researcher> :/
[08:43] <lion__> sorry for my ignorance
[08:44] <Researcher> :/
[08:44] <glitchd> :|
[08:45] <Researcher> no one :/
[08:45] <glitchd> :\
[08:47] <glitchd> Researcher, were you asking a question?
[08:49] <Researcher> exactly glitchd
[08:49] <Researcher> i am asking a question regarding PS1 bash prompt
[08:55] <Researcher> I am trying to change the bash prompt by modifying the PS1, I want to change the PS1 for all users,Can some one help me where to put custom PS1 (bash prompt) for all ssh users in ubuntu 14.04
[09:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[09:53] <pseudonymous> Hi - I've installed gnome 3 and managed (somewhat) to make it look bearable. Except the window borders are positively *huge* still. Isn't there some tool to adjust these down to a reasonable size ?
[09:53] <pseudonymous> size? *
[09:57] <lion_> hey guys!
[09:59] <celestial> Hey! Sorry, I can't really help you pseudonymous I have no idea
[10:02] <pseud0nym0us> celesti: sorry - couldn't read what you typed because apparently I had a font rendering error :/
[10:03] <balti> Hello. I could use some help with kgpg.
[10:04] <celestial> I was just saying hey and sorry I couldn't help you with that problem.
[10:05] <pseud0nym0us> celestial: I see, well thanks at any rate :)
[10:05] <Mrokii> Hello. I am in Germany, but I have set my Kubuntu systems' language to English (GB) and only things like measurements, time and date-format to German via the GUI preferences. However, occasionally there are still some apps that appear in German. I wonder where this is coming from. Could it be some of the locale-settings I can look at via bash?
[10:05] <balti> I have an installation of kgpg on my kubuntu machine. I exported the private and public key and imported it to kgpg on another machine. On the other machine I set the trust level of the private key to ultimate but still I can not use it. When I try to sign some text in the kgpg editor I get: "Signing not possibe: bad passphrase or missing key!"
[10:05] <balti> Any idea?
[10:07] <backbox> go
[10:07] <backbox> nice
[10:07] <backbox> hy man
[10:07] <backbox> can any body teach some tricks
[10:08] <polaris> Hi guys, I'm trying to run relinux to get a distro but I get the following error: "syslinux Error! vesamenu.c32 not found. Copy vesamenu.32 to /usr/lib/syslinux" anyone any idea how to solve it?
[10:12] <polaris> No one?
[10:35] <Amrock> Hi
[10:35] <Amrock> Anyone??
[10:37] <Amrock>  I have a question....i need to get a laptop.....should i buy  dell inspiron 5 3542 i3 4th gen  a used one?
[10:37] <Ben64> Amrock: wrong channel for that question
[10:38] <Amrock> I know...but i am   an ubuntu user...dont know any irc channels
[10:38] <Ben64> ##hardware would probably fit your question best
[10:39] <Amrock> I mean buying second hand dell for half the  price only used for 8 months..?
[10:45] <Amrock> ?
[10:46] <Amrock> Show some kindness please
[10:47] <Ben64> i told you the channel that would be appropriate for your query
[10:47] <Amrock> Ok
[10:52] <balti> Anyone knows whether kgpg is till broken?
[11:07] <bytefire> hi, just set up ubuntu mate on raspberry pi. how do i login as root? or a non-guest user who can sudo? i cancelled the initial setup. then it ran an update.
[11:08] <bytefire> and now it only lets login as guest
[11:08] <bytefire> or "other user" but asks for username and password
[11:12] <fabri> hello
[11:12] <fabri> !list
[11:14] <arch> b]
[11:15] <arch> ji
[11:15] <arch> b]
[11:16] <Techknight> Hi guys. I have tried to upgrade my ubuntu 14.04 server to version 16.04 with "sudo do-release-upgrade" but it says that No new releasse was found? Am I doing something wrong here?
[11:26] <lion_> have you installed  update-manager-core?
[11:26] <Techknight> si
[11:28] <arch> what
[11:28] <Techknight> arch: si == yes
[11:28] <arch> thanks
[11:35] <lion_> have tried add -d or change prompt=normal into prompt=lts?
[11:37] <Techknight> lion_: yes without any luck
[11:39] <geirha> and done   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  I assume?
[11:39] <Techknight> that will also be a yes :)
[11:41] <geirha> Then perhaps the Ubuntu mirror you are using is having trouble. If so, switching to the main server should fix things
[11:41] <Techknight> gonna try that later today ;) thanks
[11:44] <lion_> good luck
[11:45] <Techknight> thanks!
[11:56] <jamesrleimer> morning
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> 1pm here
[11:59] <zoro_> hi
[12:00] <zoro_> ?
[12:01] <Baidu> hi
[12:02] <lion_> hi baidu
[12:02] <lion_> baiduyixianijiuzhidao
[12:02] <jamesrleimer> hi
[12:02] <Baidu> lol
[12:03] <lion_> tian chao ren?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> lion_  english here
[12:04] <lion_> well I am so sorry
[12:05] <lion_> apologize for my words
[12:12] <sshlogin> is ubuntu .com down
[12:13] <sshlogin> is ubuntu .com down???
[12:14] <cfhowlett> sshlogin, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.ubuntu.com
[12:15] <sshlogin> firfox says connecion failed
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> sshlogin  works for me, so no
[12:16] <cfhowlett> sshlogin, something on your end.  ubuntu.com is fine
[12:16] <cfhowlett> it's you, not them.
[12:17] <cfhowlett> sshlogin, pro-tip: ubuntu .com is NOT ubuntu.com
[12:18] <sshlogin> im from germany and the german servers are doen because the packet repository dont work an the i changed theḿ to the USA server an it works but thanks
[12:18] <sshlogin> *down
[12:19] <sshlogin> i know cfhowlett
[12:24] <gsilvapt> hello all
[12:24] <Baidu> hello
[12:24] <unix> haiii
[12:26] <smiggy> how to you copy text from one vim terminal and paste it into another vim terminal?
[12:28] <sshlogin> im so silly i set DHCP off
[12:28] <Baidu> ctr+c/v i guess?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> smiggy  the #vom channel has 1100+ users ... you have to !register if you want to talk there
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> #vim
[12:30] <jon___> Depends - i use ssh terminals from a window manager. Then copy with hightlight/mouse rightclick copy and then in the second vim window switch on insert with i and then rightclick paste.
[12:30] <jon___> you could always use nano instead. a bit easier as some vim windows treat rightclick as visual insert under vim
[12:30] <jamesrleimer> !register
[12:33] <smiggy> seems there are different buffers for copy and paste when it comes to the system clipboard. Kind of need to use vim since I am working on the control file for a debian package. vim understands that file
[12:39] <ace_me> hi all
[12:41] <tomreyn> grrreetinghs earrrthling
[12:42] <ace_me> I have rented a vps at webtropia and this seems to answer 5-10 minutes than "This site can’t be reached" It is their default vps image installation of ubuntu 14.04 so I assume no firewall afaik ! What I was able to see is that the ifconfig output  HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 which seems not ok but I am not sure ! any help please ?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> ace_me, precisely the type of question you should ask your provider
[12:45] <tomreyn> ace_me: also check your previous run's logs during those 5-10 minutes. but indeed you need webtropia to look into it.
[12:46] <tomreyn> ace_me: maybe they also provide a serial / remote console / out-of-bound access. if so, and if the reason your system becomes unavailable is network related, then you should be able to still access it using this utility.
[12:46] <tomreyn> (allowing you to debug it further)
[12:46] <tomreyn> the HWaddr is not necessarily an issue.
[12:46] <Baidu> tomreyn: thats good
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:49] <tomreyn> thanks ba1du, hi Blue5Kaj
[12:51] <BluesKaj> hi t0mreyn
[12:53] <Researcher_zz> hello everyone.
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> you j0kst3s5 you
[12:53] <Researcher_zz> I have a question
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Researcher_zz  let's hear it, in one line
[12:56] <Researcher_zz> I am planning to host a ubuntu ssh server for users, I have 2 ipv4 and 2 ipv6, my question : is there any method to control that ssh user can only use specific ip or specific ethernet ? like user1 can use ipv4 and user2 only allowed to use ipv6 specific ip.
[12:56] <Researcher_zz> please help
[12:58] <tomreyn> Researcher_zz: not with a single openssh server instance, i don't think. i.e. you#d need to run two openssh servers with different configuration files to achieve this.
[12:59] <tomreyn> however, ask yourself whether oyu really need to use different ip addresses for this purpose.
[12:59] <tomreyn> which is your goal there?
[13:00] <Researcher_zz> tomreyn : thanks for your reply, the goal is to control outgoing connections per user basis, also to allow specific ip/ethernet per user basis
[13:01] <asdf11> hello
[13:04] <tomreyn> Researcher_zz: i don't see how this helps in restricting outbound traffic for these users. but maybe i'm missing something.
[13:05] <szymon_g> hi
[13:06] <szymon_g> is there a way to make ubuntu's unity workspaces (aka virtual desktops) to look and behave like the one in gnome 3? (on the left side, dynamically created etc)?
[13:06] <szymon_g> (no, i do not want to install gnome 3)
[13:06] <tomreyn> Researcher_zz: restricting outbound network access per user can be achieved using the iptables 'owner' module
[13:06] <tomreyn> http://serverfault.com/questions/660880/restricting-per-user-outgoing-ssh
[13:09] <Researcher_zz> tomreyn lemme check
[13:09] <Researcher_zz> thanks
[13:14] <tomreyn> Researcher_zz: to make them connect outbound with separate source ip addresses, you'd need a combination of static routes (one routing table per user) and iptables to mark / tag packets.
[13:14] <tomreyn> roughly like this https://www.niftiestsoftware.com/2011/08/28/making-all-network-traffic-for-a-linux-user-use-a-specific-network-interface/
[13:15] <stefanek> does anybody know when appstream update is going to be released? Evrytime I use sudo apt update, I se "AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors."
[13:16] <tomreyn> it's just a warning, you can ignore it.
[13:17] <stefanek> really?
[13:18] <tomreyn> yes, the standard apt package cache is still updated fine.
[13:19] <OerHeks> tomreyn, it can be fixed with > sudo appstreamcli refresh --force #  after this the error is gone here. ( without backports stuff like in this post )  http://askubuntu.com/questions/854168/how-i-can-fix-appstream-cache-update-completed-but-some-metadata-was-ignored-d
[13:19] <OerHeks> stefanek ^^
[13:20] <stefanek> It looks like there's a update of appstream, but hasn't been moved from proposed since 1st December.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream
[13:20] <OerHeks> no need for that update ( in backports)
[13:21] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1644498
[13:21] <stefanek> in backports there's a new version from 16.10, in proposed there's an updated 16.04 version
[13:21] <gugu> hello linux
[13:22] <OerHeks> just run: sudo appstreamcli refresh --force && sudo apt update & sudo apt dist-upgrade
[13:24] <qkzoo1978> Anybody recommend a good rest client for ubuntu?
[13:25] <tomreyn> sleep 1
[13:25] <tomreyn> :-P (sorry)
[13:28] <ace_me> thx tomreyn
[13:28] <pault> Hello All
[13:30] <gugu> nice to meet you all here
[13:35] <geirha> qkzoo1978: curl
[13:56] <qkzoo1978> curl ya ok, thx
[14:15] <Ntemis> i need help ERROR: freetype2 not found
[14:16] <Ntemis> libfreetype6-dev is installed
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> Ntemis  when/where do you see that, doing what?
[14:17] <Ntemis> compilling
[14:17] <Ntemis> ffmpeg
[14:19] <sandihxm> tes tes
[14:21] <Guest53896> Hi
[14:22] <Guest53896> I am looking for help in setting up Citrix Receiver. Using Ubuntu GNOME 3.18 and Ubuntu 16.04.01 LTS
[14:22] <Guest53896> i've tried and tried and it is not working.
[14:23] <Guest53896> I am able to install the Software , But when i logged into Ctirix Gateway and launch the session , it is not getting launched.
[14:23] <Guest53896> I've made required changes to Citrix Plugin in Firefox as well.
[14:33] <Baidu> hello
[14:54] <The0x539> Could some service (bitlbee) misbehaving cause my 16.04 LTS server to misbehave when I tell it to reboot? AFAICT "sudo shutdown -r now" just makes it refuse connections on all ports, and then the "power off" button on my VPS provider (digitalocean) takes over a minute to kick in
[15:05] <KB3VGW> morning
[15:06] <KB3VGW> ok fresh 16.10 install and installed pythoin2.7
[15:06] <KB3VGW> still get errors
[15:06] <KB3VGW> root@vapor:/# swift -v
[15:06] <KB3VGW> Swift version 3.1-dev (LLVM 217eb6c2b6, Clang 34a98ce92e, Swift 1eb5648c46)
[15:06] <KB3VGW> Target: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[15:06] <KB3VGW> ./usr/bin/lldb: error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.7.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:11] <Rino> Na
[15:16] <teward> KB3VGW: install `python-dev` as well
[15:17] <teward> KB3VGW: you may have installed python2.7, but you also need the dev libraries when trying to pull in libpython2.7 and such.
[15:19] <KB3VGW> ok that fixed it
[15:23] <KB3VGW> ok had to install python-dev
[15:23] <KB3VGW> its fixed
[15:50] <marmut> linux mint and redmine har to combine
[15:55] <imbezol> anyone have any experience using a steam controller for emulators?
[15:55] <imbezol> it acts as a mouse when i plug it in rather than a joystick
[15:55] <imbezol> mouse and keyboard actually
[16:06] <hellier> Hai. I don't suppose any of you are using a dell xps developer edition? and have it hooked up to 2 extra monitors (3 including hte laptop screen), using the displayport
[16:06] <hellier> just wondering if this is possible?
[16:11] <gbl1nux> hello all
[16:12] <gbl1nux> Running Mate 16.10 and having a samba issue. I keep getting a timeout issue when looking for windows 7 shares on the network. I do not have this issue in Ubuntu Mate 16.04.1. Is anyone else having this type of issue on 16.10?
[16:15] <acicula> what command line tool can i use to burn a BD-RE on ubuntu 16.04 from the console? i've used brasero succesfully before, but cant seem to get it to work from the command line
[16:17] <terixer> HI :)
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> !burn | acicula
[16:19] <acicula> yeah wodim doesnt do BD-RE it seems
[16:20] <acicula> i added the cdrtools ppa as per the wiki page, but wasnt sure if that is outdated or not
[16:20] <jwash> hi everyone is there a way to waste bandwidth between 12am and 7am every day?
[16:20] <jwash> i want to run my internet at full speed during that time
[16:21] <acicula> jwash: heu, you could repeatedly download something from a server, but unless you own that server or have explicit permission to repeatedly pull files from it i wouldnt go that route.
[16:21] <acicula> jwash: what are you trying to solve?
[16:21] <jwash> i've been forced to upgrade to unlimited internet for an extra $50/mo from my ISP
[16:21] <jwash> i want to use as much of it as I can
[16:22] <jwash> i don't really want to hammer innocent servers though
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> jwash  there's this https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/21/napflix-boring-sleep-videos-spain
[16:22] <acicula> well you could run torrents, download your entire steam library over and over again, etc. but it seems a bit of a waste to put energy in that
[16:23] <jwash> i'm lookikng for something that can run as a cron job
[16:23] <jwash> to goto /dev/nul
[16:24] <acicula> you do realizee that the additional cost for your isp for doing this is effectively zero right
[16:24] <jwash> of course
[16:25] <jwash> but i still might as well see how much data i can push through my account
[16:25] <acicula> well unlimited is unlimited, unless it says fair use somewhere
[16:25] <jwash> yes
[16:26] <OerHeks> LoLz
[16:26] <jwash> they make me pay $50/mo more for unlimited then my standard plan with 1024gb alotment
[16:26] <OerHeks> so you help global warming for those few bytes?
[16:27] <jwash> i'll help climate change, yes
[16:27] <acicula> is this your home connection?
[16:28] <jwash> yes
[16:30] <compdoc> you shouldnt be afraid to test stuff, else how will you know for sure?
[16:30] <acicula> well test is one thing, just burning data because they told you you went past the fair use limit of 1024Gb on a home connection is just petty
[16:30] <jwash> why is it petty
[16:31] <jwash> i'm paying for it i want to use it
[16:31] <compdoc> I just joined, but I didnt see he was going to always do it
[16:32] <acicula> he wants to burn data when he is not using his link because his isp put him on a more expensive plan for going over 1024gb
[16:32] <OerHeks> (ab)use is beyond the scope of this channel
[16:32] <jwash> acicula: exactly
[16:32] <compdoc> cant stop global warming, anyway
[16:32] <jwash> talk to the chinese
[16:33] <tomreyn> this is not a politics channel, please keep it to ubuntu support only.
[16:33] <jwash> or take away my truck that gets 7 mpg
[16:33] <jpmh> I have a 'PS1='\e[0;37m\u:\w $ ' and this is causing the bash set -o vi feature to misplace the cursor when I try and edit a command.  Any ideas
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> climate change happened before, before the existence of man, so we are morally free from (which doesnt mean it doesnt happen)
[16:34]  * compdoc sneezes from all the Dust
[16:37] <lauritzt[m]> jpmh: Bash needs to be told the colour code is not a character. Use PS1='\[\e[0;37m\]\u:\w $ '
[16:38] <jpmh> lauritzt[m]: I'm missing what you are telling me - please explain
[16:39] <lauritzt[m]> jpmh: The "\e[0;37m" part is not a character. Bash needs to be told that, which you can do by using "\[\e[0;37m\]\u:\w $ " as your PS1.
[16:40] <jpmh> lauritzt[m]: when I use your version I get the extra {} as part of my prompt
[16:41] <jpmh> lauritzt[m]: and the problem is NOT fiexed either
[16:41] <lauritzt[m]> jpmh: It works fine for me. Can you paste the line with your PS1?
[16:44] <jpmh> lauritzt[m]: OOPs - I had added an exyra \ - your code works wonderfully - ty
[16:45] <lauritzt[m]> jpmh: No problem :)
[16:46] <jpmh> lauritzt[m]: so, with PS1='\[\e[0;37m\]\u:\w $ ' what is the extra \[ and \] doing?  I am missing this
[16:49] <lauritzt[m]> jpmh: It's telling bash (the command line) that "\e[0;37m" isn't actually "\e[0;37m", but a colour code. Without them, bash thinks the line is a bit longer than it is, which causes problems when the line is longer than the width of the terminal. Any colour codes need to have \[ and \] around them.
[16:50] <lauritzt[m]> jpmh: You can also see here, all the colour codes have \[ and \] around them: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt
[16:51] <jpmh> lauritzt[m]: ty so much - makes sense now
[16:51] <lauritzt[m]> No problem :)
[17:32] <lol> hi
[17:33] <lauritzt[m]> lol: Hi
[17:34] <SValkyrie> Hello everyone -- I am having trouble with getting Ubuntu to detect my HDD.  I've created a thread here to no avail: http://askubuntu.com/questions/860432/ubuntu-live-16-04-1-does-not-detect-any-hdd-cannot-install -- I'm not sure how to proceed, as I've even reinstalled windows and reformatted my HDD.  I've plugged it in with several different SATA connectors from the Motherboard and it...
[17:34] <SValkyrie> ...still won't find it.
[17:40] <funabashi> hey guys i had 2 unwanted reboots on my linux machine today. which important logs can i go for to find out the root cause ?
[17:48] <Kin3er> 噫？
[17:49] <quarters> are questions regarding ubuntu for windows allowed here, since #windows is usually useless?
[17:51] <tgm4883> !ubuwin | quarters
[17:54] <Kin3er> test
[17:58] <CarlFK> Kin3er: a+
[17:58] <Kin3er> ?
[18:02] <fooaa> Anyone have DNS problems on 17.04 Zesty?
[18:05] <CarlFK> Kin3er: a+ on your test.
[18:05] <Kin3er> a ha
[18:10] <OerHeks> fooaa, until release, support in #ubuntu+1
[18:10] <OerHeks> !zesty
[18:18] <i_and_i> after Z, will they start at A again ?
[18:19] <linuxson> I am still a noob at this...but planning on moving from #LinuxMint to #Fedora. Any major differences in the commands issued via terminal?
[18:21] <SuperSeriousCat> You use apt-get in Mint, right? Fedora is yum. Also this is #ubuntu
[18:21] <OerHeks> linuxson, ask in #fedora?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> !mint | linuxson
[18:21] <stormmore> linuxson you know Ubuntu has nothing to do with Mint or Fedora, other than they share a common kernel and are POSIX compliant, right?
[18:21] <lauritzt[m]> linuxson: Slight differences. Keep in mind, this channel is for Ubuntu and official derivatives
[18:24] <ckc> hi all
[18:25] <Kin3er> hi
[18:25] <ckc> does any1 would know why is Ubuntu server 16.04 is not seeing my HDD onto my cerc card (set as ata)?  Used to work fine with Ubuntu server 14
[18:26] <aokrom> hi
[18:27] <aokrom> i have backbox
[18:27] <aokrom> i have proplem here
[18:27] <lauritzt[m]> aokrom: Backbox isn't an official derivative of Ubuntu.
[18:28] <OerHeks> ckc, what have you tried sofar? output from parted?
[18:28] <ckc> i have tried to input UUID into fstab, didn't work
[18:29] <ckc> I can see other drives connected into mb sata ports
[18:34] <ckc> how can i launch parted via terminal
[18:37] <ckc> blkid ain't seeing the drive either
[18:37] <akik> ckc: sudo -i parted
[18:38] <Kin3er> o_o
[18:38] <vulnor> hi
[18:39] <Kireji> what would run the command, as root: "/usr/bin/lsof -wnlP -i TCP:13000" <- found this running on my machine and would like to understand why it ran, and what software on the machine would have done it.  no current users on the machine did it, it was aomething automated
[18:40] <Kireji> that's on Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[18:40] <akik> Kireji: you'll find all the options described in "man lsof"
[18:41] <akik> Kireji: looks like it lists connections to the tcp port 13000
[18:41] <Kireji> akik: got that. I'm wondering what Ubuntu software could have been running that would have called that
[18:42] <OerHeks> Kireji, *how* did you noticed that action?
[18:42] <akik> Kireji: is it still running?
[18:42] <Kireji> no, it was very quick
[18:42] <Kireji> OerHeks: logging and processing processes, watching what's going on
[18:42] <ckc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23644144/
[18:43] <OerHeks> parted -l for list
[18:45] <janmichaelvincen> Hi, my problem: had a dual boot setup with Win10 and the bootloader on one hdd and Ubuntu on the second hdd. The first hdd is gone now, how do I make Ubuntu able to boot on its own now? Tried boot-repair: http://paste2.org/a1pCYv5E would appreciate any help
[18:45] <ilhami> 0.0
[18:45] <akik> Kireji: you'll probably see something related if you run "sudo netstat -tulpan | grep 13000"
[18:45] <ckc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23644156/
[18:45] <ckc> it doesn't show the drive...
[18:46] <Kireji> akik: OerHeks: there's nothing now on the machine that is running on port 13000, nor should their be, which is part of this little mystery
[18:46] <Kireji> nothing is configured to run on 13000 here
[18:47] <akik> Kireji: check all crontabs for it
[18:48] <Kireji> "sudo grep -lir 13000 /etc/*"  = nothing
[18:49] <yenclgj5nlw2> Very strange. 0 I have run xpra in firejail, the Xorg gone mad and showed garbage in the screen. ctrl+alt+backspace, ctrl+alt+f*, alt+sysrq+r, alt+sysrq+k didn't work. 1 I have waited, my display have been disabled, when I've moved my mouse it was enabled but there was a logon manager. Though the display and input were stil occupied by x. I entered the password, closed the terminal window opened in it and then I was able to switch
[18:49] <Kireji> same for /usr/local/etc/
[18:49] <yenclgj5nlw2> Thogh most of sysrq combinations don't work: they just switch the console.
[18:50] <akik> Kireji: /var/spool/cron/crontabs ?
[18:50] <yenclgj5nlw2> When I use /proc/sysrq-triger some of them work
[18:50] <yenclgj5nlw2> but work in a weird way
[18:50] <Kireji> akik: empty
[18:50] <yenclgj5nlw2> for example if I pass there m I see
[18:50] <sdfsadfsadf> help
[18:50] <yenclgj5nlw2> >[ number.number] sysrq: ShsRq: Show Memory
[18:51] <yenclgj5nlw2> *SysRq
[18:51] <sdfsadfsadf> how can I revert propietary drivers back to open source ones? I changed fglrx with 'radeon' in xorg.conf but now I'm getting a "no screens found" error and can't start xserver
[18:51] <c0d3r> hi
[18:52] <lauritzt[m]> sdfsadfsadf: Change it back from tty?
[18:53] <sdfsadfsadf> yes, i did it from a tty
[18:53] <sdfsadfsadf> I also tried deleting xorg.conf, since I read that it isn't necessary with open source drivers
[18:53] <sdfsadfsadf> but neither will help
[18:54] <c0d3r> I'm getting a weird error message why I try to boot. It says "invalid arch-independent elf magic". What does it mean?
[18:54] <c0d3r> *when I try to boot*
[18:56] <tomreyn> show the output with context
[19:05] <janmichaelvincen> which of these should i mount and install grub on? /dev/sda1     2048   1050623   1048576   512M EFI System /dev/sda2  1050624   1550335    499712   244M Linux filesystem /dev/sda3  1550336 488396799 486846464 232.2G Linux filesystem
[19:06] <JyZyXEL> can somebody pastebin the /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox file from the latest Ubuntu installation?
[19:12] <\9> JyZyXEL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23644265/
[19:13] <JyZyXEL> from which package does it come from by the way? (dpkg -S /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox)
[19:13] <squinty> JyZyXEL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23644273/
[19:13] <\9> firefox
[19:14] <JyZyXEL> ah
[19:15] <squinty> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=usr.bin.firefox&mode=exactfilename&suite=xenial&arch=any
[19:16] <squinty> JyZyXEL, ^^
[19:17] <JyZyXEL> downloading the whole 250MB package to get access to everything it places under apparmor.d :D
[19:19] <janmichaelvincen> anyone? which of these should i mount and install grub on? /dev/sda1     2048   1050623   1048576   512M EFI System /dev/sda2  1050624   1550335    499712   244M Linux filesystem /dev/sda3  1550336 488396799 486846464 232.2G Linux filesystem
[19:21] <JyZyXEL> lol the package is so big that Ark wasn't able to open it
[19:25] <Younder> JyZyXEL, Well most servers are placed under apparmour. That is hardly the problem.
[19:26] <Younder> JyZyXEL, It should be a couple of kilobytes at most.
[19:28] <JyZyXEL> Younder: the package is around 250M
[19:28] <JyZyXEL> it was too big for Ark to handle :P
[19:29] <Guest8281> Hi All
[19:31] <Guest8281> I am trying to get "CITRIX Receiver for Linux Web client (x86_64)" work in Ubuntu 16.4.01 with Ubuntu Gnome 3.18.
[19:32] <Guest8281> When i login to my office Citrix Gateway and click on the icon which generally connects to the session using Citrix install is not poping up.
[19:32] <Guest8281> Could someone help here please ?
[19:32] <Younder> JyZyXEL, the Firefox link you gave earlier Then something is wrong.
[19:33] <JyZyXEL> i said i downloaded the full package
[19:33] <Younder> JyZyXEL, The firefox package, right.
[19:33] <JyZyXEL> yeah
[19:33] <Younder> You don't use snap or something like that?
[19:34] <JyZyXEL> never heard of that
[19:34] <Guest8281> Any help / pointer is much appreciated.
[19:35] <Guest8281> earlier i was on Unity and it was working flawless.
[19:35] <Younder> JyZyXEL, Well it's a new trend to box all dependencies in one bundle so they behave as one app. It takes up more space, but since it is independent of other programs it is more robust.
[19:37] <tarkus> can you recommend a tool to backup Nginx, Docker config files on schedule (to Dropbox or something like that)
[19:38] <nejm> Hello everyone, could someone help me with my Ubuntu installation? I want to have 16.04 with Vulkan support, but since I updated from 14.01 I get stuck in a login loop...
[19:38] <winston2k> tarkus great record
[19:41] <tomreyn> nejm: ubuntu 14.01 does and did not exist, you probably mean ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[19:42] <nejm> tomreyn: O sorry I meant 14.04 :P
[19:42] <tomreyn> tarkus: if you just want to backup configuration files, you could use etckeeper
[19:43] <tarkus> tomreyn thanks
[19:43] <tomreyn> nejm: so now you upgraded you get a graphical (?) login prompt, and when you login with correct credentials the login prompt reappears?
[19:44] <nejm> yes exactly
[19:44] <nejm> I tried restarting lightdm, but it didn't work...
[19:45] <tomreyn> nejm: whathappens when you try to login on a tty? press ctrl-alt-f1 and login there. to get back to the graphical output later, press ctrl-alt-f7
[19:45] <nejm> yes, the tty works fine
[19:46] <tomreyn> nejm: you are probably using some proprietary video drivers (or were before the upgrade)?
[19:46] <Maimster> tomreyn: Your thinking the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[19:46] <nejm> yes, from nVidia
[19:46] <nejm> I tried reinstalling them from the tty but it didn't work
[19:47] <nejm> reinstalling always worked on 14.04, but not in 16.04... :/
[19:47] <Maimster> nejm: When you installed them did you service lightdm stop first?
[19:47] <tomreyn> nejm: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[19:47] <Maimster> nejm: I'm using 16.04 and nVidia drivers no problems.
[19:48] <tomreyn> it will likely contain some '(EE)' lines
[19:48] <nejm> yes I did stop light dm first
[19:49] <Maimster> nejm: Good. When I do the Ubuntu updates it knocks out the nVidia driver. Something to do when a new kernel is updated.
[19:51] <nejm> I found some (EE) lines in Xorg.0.log (no other such files) but they only concern my drawing tablet...
[19:52] <tomreyn> nejm: what about ~/.xession-error*
[19:52] <Maimster> nejm: Sometimes I have to insert the HoriSync/VertRefresh in xorg.conf or the graphical side of Ubuntu doesn't work.
[19:53] <tomreyn> i meant ~/.xsession-errors*
[19:54] <nejm> tomreyn: no (EE), but messages that unity terminated with status 1 and such
[19:54] <nejm> in xsession-errors
[19:54] <tomreyn> right you wouldnt have (EE) records in *that* file
[19:54] <nejm> should I send a picture of my screen?
[19:55] <tomreyn> you can use pastebinit to provide output
[19:55] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | nejm
[19:55] <nejm> yeah I am typing this from my Windows laptop at the moment... :P
[19:55] <nejm> I can't copy-paste
[19:56] <tomreyn> but you can type a short url
[19:56] <tomreyn> screen shot works, too, though
[19:56] <tomreyn> as long as its less than a screen full
[19:56] <nejm> yeah tty is working fine, how could I pastebin something from the terminal?
[19:56] <tomreyn> personally i don't debug issues with proprietary nvidia drivers, though
[19:56] <nejm> I feel you man...
[19:57] <nejm> maybe it would be better to set it to the normal drivers
[19:57] <nejm> so I at least have a working computer again
[19:57] <nejm> could you tell me how to do that?
[19:57] <tomreyn> that's probably your easiest approach now
[19:57] <Maimster> tomreyn: You tried allowing the nVidia drives, redo the xorg.conf?
[19:58] <nejm> No I haven't tried that yet
[19:58] <nejm> I sounds unfamiliar to me
[19:58] <nejm> were can I find xorg.conf?
[19:58] <Maimster> nejm: Let me check for the command.
[19:58] <Maimster> nejm: I think /etc/X11
[19:59] <tomreyn> Maimster: no i did not try anything, not my system
[19:59] <Maimster> nejm: There should be a few in there.
[19:59] <Maimster> tomreyn: Okay.
[19:59] <nejm> yes I found it
[19:59] <Maimster> nejm: How many do you see?
[20:00] <nejm> one, and a few backups it seems
[20:00] <Maimster> nejm: Lets see can we tell Ubuntu to use one of those backups.
[20:00] <Maimster> nejm: Looking for the command, been a while since I had to do it.
[20:01] <nejm> Maimster: should I just change the extensions to reset a previous xorg.conf?
[20:01] <Maimster> nejm: That can't really hurt anything as you can always put the extension back.
[20:01] <Maimster> nejm: Try it.
[20:02] <nejm> Mainster: done.
[20:02] <Maimster> nejm: I think I found the commands.
[20:03] <nejm> reboot?
[20:03] <Maimster> nejm: Not yet.
[20:03] <Maimster> nejm: Try to simple run startx
[20:03] <nejm> wow
[20:03] <Maimster> nejm: I know it will fail..
[20:03] <nejm> the screen flashed
[20:03] <nejm> where should I look in the output?
[20:04] <nejm> there are no obvious errors
[20:04] <Maimster> nejm: Thinking the same thing.
[20:04] <Maimster> nejm: Try this next.
[20:04] <Maimster> nejm: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:04] <Bashing-om> Maimster: nejm " startx' command has limited applications . what DE is this ?
[20:05] <Maimster> I think unity
[20:05] <nejm> I have both Unity8/Mir and Unity7/X server installed
[20:05] <nejm> neither works... ;(
[20:05] <Maimster> Bashing-om: with lightdm
[20:06] <Maimster> nejm: Also with all the things we tried a reboot would be smart now.
[20:06] <nejm> Maimster I don't have an xorg.conf.orig file, do you mean the nvidia* stuff?
[20:06] <Maimster> nejm: Okay.
[20:06] <nejm> Aha I didn't do that yet!
[20:07] <Maimster> nejm: There's an nVidia command for re-generating a new xorg.conf file.
[20:07] <nejm> no I'm still stuck at the login screen
[20:08] <Bashing-om> Maimster: nejm What release ? Maybe ' systemctl restart lightdm.service ' to start the GUI from a terminal ??
[20:08] <nejm> I'll try it, what do you mean by release?
[20:09] <Maimster> Bashing-om 16.04
[20:09] <nejm> 16.04.1 is mine
[20:09] <Maimster> nejm: Did you try to reboot?
[20:09] <nejm> yes I just did, but no result...
[20:09] <Bashing-om> nejm: 14.04 release is upstart based, while 16.04 has changed to systemd .. the commands to inteerface are different .
[20:10] <Maimster> Bashing-om: Using preproiarty drivers from nVidia
[20:11] <Bashing-om> nejm: Maimster I just joined the channel, and is not my desire to interfere where I do not know what is going on :)
[20:11] <Maimster> Bashing-om: What about stopping lightdm, then sudo X -configure to creat a new xorg.conf file?
[20:11] <nejm> Bashing-om you seem to have more experience than me so I am grateful anyway :)
[20:12] <Maimster> Bashing-om: No worries we are all just trying to help out.
[20:12] <Bashing-om> Maimster: Well .. can not hurt .. but depending on the root cause, may not help either .
[20:13] <Maimster> Bashing-om: I've been using Ubuntu and nVidia drivers for years now. I've personally had to same issue before.
[20:13] <Maimster> Bashing-om: It's something very minor.
[20:13] <nejm> yeah me too, but since the update my usual fix didn't work
[20:13] <Bashing-om> nejm: Maimster Well, I do have a bit of experince and knowlege with nVidia . Are we sure this is a driver issue ? and not say permisions to access the desktop, for an instance ?
[20:13] <Maimster> nejm: What is your usual fix?
[20:13] <Jr__> I installled kubuntu desktop using ubuntu when it starts up  i have no applications
[20:14] <rommel> ero
[20:14] <nejm> I managed to get through the login by using the default instead of Mir,
[20:14] <Maimster> Bashing-om: The reason I don't think this is because the install will not start without root permissions.
[20:14] <Younder> Maimster, It won't
[20:15] <nejm> I will switch to Thunderbird on my desktop now, brb
[20:15] <Maimster> Younder: Hi there, any experience with nVidia drivers?
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Maimster: " because the install will not start" fill me in here ?? We doing a clean install and no desktop ?
[20:15] <nejm> Maimster: I will post my script in a minute
[20:15] <nejm> I'm back
[20:15] <Maimster> Bashing-om: When I do the nVidia script it asks me do I want to do a new xorg.conf file I always say yes.
[20:16] <Maimster> nejm: Back? It's working?
[20:16] <Younder> Maimster, Well I run them, but I have been having some troble giving support on this channel because my solutions don't always work
[20:16] <nejm> no my taskbar and shortcuts still dont work
[20:16] <nejm> but I got through the login
[20:16] <Jr__> need help with kbuntu no apps in desktop can use search and see installed
[20:16] <Maimster> Younder: At least your trying.
[20:17] <Maimster> nejm: So your in your desktop and your taskbar isn't shhowing?
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Maimster: Well, again things change . xorg.conf is depreciated . However it is used in a hybrid graphic's situation .
[20:17] <nejm> no the desktop is showing if I quit all my applications
[20:17] <Maimster> Bashing-om: True.
[20:17] <Maimster> nejm: Strange...
[20:17] <nejm> the windows button and shortcuts and so won´t work but Thunderbird is running
[20:18] <nejm> I set these programs to automatically start up at login
[20:18] <Maimster> nejm: Sounds like the system is defaulting to X just do display the Thunderbird app.
[20:18] <nejm> I think so too
[20:19] <Maimster> nejm: You said earlier that you normal do something for your fix.
[20:19] <Maimster> nejm: What was it that you do?
[20:19] <nejm> yes, I'll post it
[20:19] <nejm> o wait I cannot start nautilus from here
[20:19] <Bashing-om> nejm: That last indicates that the issue is within the config of "your" user space . What results activating the guest account ? If good in guest then sure to be a config issue in your /home .
[20:20] <Maimster> Bashing-om: I didn't think of that, interesting.
[20:20] <walter_> hello
[20:20] <nejm> I think I disabled the guest account...
[20:20] <tmuwa> hi walter_
[20:20] <Maimster> nejm: Sounds like me. I've never used it either.
[20:20] <nejm> If I start nautilus from tty1 it says it cannot connect to Mir
[20:21] <nejm> haha typical
[20:21] <nejm> stupid guest account :P
[20:21] <nejm> no one needs stuff like that...
[20:21] <renn0xtk9> I am very interested in a problem :   There is a driver that is known to be buggy since 2013, Today I  (try to) install Kubun 16.10  (3 years later than the bug report)  It installed, and then no network.  The reason why?  It has been shipped with the still unfix buggy driver !! Can i get someone more or less involved in the development /packaging/whatsover of ubuntu to explain to me what is the logical reasoning behind it ?
[20:21] <Bashing-om> nejm: Maimster I have not used Mir .. so I may be of limited value here :(
[20:22] <renn0xtk9> I am very eager to understand why a human beeing would say " how we have version a  not working. version b working we'll ship version a because NR a > NR b  "   ?
[20:23] <nejm> Me neither, I would like to remove it since it has no extra value but I don´t know how...
[20:23] <Maimster> nejm: At this point re-loading the nVidia drivers should help. You also said that you did this already.
[20:24] <nejm> yes, many times...
[20:24] <Maimster> nejm: You never said which version of the driver you were using.
[20:24] <nejm> I have my script But i cannot copy/paste it from tty1...
[20:24] <nejm> I beleive 367, the current versoin
[20:24] <Maimster> nejm: Use vi
[20:24] <Maimster> nejm: Then again that is not for the light hearted. :o)
[20:25] <nejm> I don´t know how to use vi!! :(
[20:25] <whitesquall> use emacs :)
[20:25] <nejm> all i ever use is nano because I am too stupid to learn one of those fancy editors... :
[20:26] <Maimster> nejm: We think nano is the fancy one. lol
[20:26] <nejm> xD
[20:26] <nejm> if I could just open my files I could do it with gedit or something
[20:26] <Maimster> nejm: v for the selected text. Control V for entire line.
[20:27] <Maimster> nejm: y to copy.
[20:27] <Maimster> nejm: How to paste now....  thining....  maybe p not sure.
[20:27] <Maimster> <-- Getting to old for this sugar.
[20:29] <nejm> but I cannot copy from tt1 to tt7...
[20:30] <akik> nejm: you can copy text in the ttys, after you install gpm
[20:30] <Maimster> akik: I was drawing a blank...
[20:30] <anh> hoy
[20:30] <nejm> Iĺl just manually type over my script
[20:31] <anh> Morning ^_^
[20:32] <akik> yes because using gpm is so difficult
[20:32] <nejm> Itś dificult for me
[20:32] <nejm> :(
[20:33] <akik> sudo apt-get install gpm
[20:33] <nejm> it;s a very short script
[20:33] <Maimster> nejm: I just checked out the program gpm pretty cool little tool.
[20:33] <nejm> almost done
[20:33] <nejm> ok, ok, Iĺl try it in a minute xD
[20:33] <renn0xtk9> how do you use ubntu if the driver for the network card is buggy and does not work ?
[20:33] <Maimster> nejm: Pretty much gives mouse ability to the tty.
[20:33] <Bashing-om> nejm: Mir ? execute ' dpkg -l mir-platform-input-evdev5 | nc termnin.com 9999 ' . the result is a URL back in terminal .. Pass that link back here .
[20:33] <nejm> really?
[20:34] <Maimster> renn0xtk9: I had to download the right one from another computer then get it over to ubuntu via flash drive.
[20:34] <Maimster> renn0xtk9: Make sure you grab a *.deb file.
[20:35] <nejm> damnit akik you should've said it was a mouse thing in the terminal xD
[20:36] <renn0xtk9> Maimster   what I mean is the way ubuntu work , via dependency and stuff means if you don't have internet, you are fucked up because it will take ages to solve dependency manually.    When distributung it one should NEVER  fuck it up,  and they did. and they have been warned about it some three years ago...
[20:36] <nejm> I thought you were converting me to another text editor religion...
[20:37] <Maimster> renn0xtk9: Preach man....
[20:39] <nejm> hi it's me again, I selected stuff with gpm and accidentially entered it int he command line so tt7 is now just a black screen
[20:39] <renn0xtk9> there will never be any kind of progress as long as they stuck with that mentaility of  "I am the one who does it, so I am entitled to   not giving a fuck"  it pisses me off      sooo unreliable
[20:39] <nejm> akik I should've told you I'm an idiot xD
[20:39] <OerHeks> renn0xtk9, is this a rant about wireless drivers/firmware?
[20:40] <akik> nejm: left button, select. right button, paste
[20:40] <nejm> Mainster could you post that command for the url again?
[20:40] <Maimster> renn0xtk9: There will always be someone thinking the world owes them something. It's just the way things are.
[20:40] <nejm> aha.....
[20:40] <nejm> akik: but it sure is a very nice tool!
[20:40] <Maimster> nejm: Which url, or for what?
[20:41] <nejm> you told me to execute a very long command and post the url here again
[20:41] <nejm> well, I think you did...
[20:41] <Maimster> nejm: Back checking my log
[20:41] <renn0xtk9> OerHeks no much more about the human behind it and even more the way they are organize
[20:42] <renn0xtk9> there is no reason why they would ship this driver
[20:42] <nejm> I like how the user someone is referenced all the time by statements not addressed to him/her xD
[20:43] <Maimster> nejm: I didn't find a URL from my past post.
[20:43] <Guest18333> Hi
[20:43] <Maimster> nejm: I had commands
[20:43] <nejm> yes the command
[20:43] <Guest18333> I've an issue with Citrix Reciever
[20:43] <nejm> you said that right?
[20:43] <Guest18333> Could someone help me please ?
[20:43] <Maimster> nejm: Asking you to recopy the xorg.conf.something.
[20:44] <Maimster> sudo X -configure
[20:44] <Maimster> nejm: That one?
[20:44] <Guest18333> Bashing-om, Would you be able to help me with that ?
[20:44] <nejm1> I am back at my desktop again
[20:44] <nejm> o wait what is this
[20:45] <nejm1> who are you?
[20:45] <nejm> I am you from the future
[20:45] <nejm> xD
[20:45] <Maimster> nejm: lol
[20:45] <rizonz> which caching resolved is recommended for local usage ?
[20:45] <Maimster> nejm: You had me for a while their.
[20:45] <nejm1> haha
[20:46] <nejm1> I love how amazingly flexible IRC is with stuff like this.. xD
[20:46] <Maimster> nejm: That command helped you get back to your desktop?
[20:46] <Bashing-om> Guest18333:  Porbably not as I do not know what a Citrix Reciever is or what role it plays . What is the issue ?
[20:47] <Maimster> Bashing-om: Citrix receiver is a remote desktop type thing.
[20:47] <Guest18333> i am trying to connect to my work computer using Citrix Reciver / ICAClient as it is called.
[20:47] <nejm> no I just rebooted
[20:47] <Maimster> nejm: lol!!
[20:47] <nejm> sudo X -reconfigure right
[20:47] <nejm> o no re
[20:47] <Maimster> nejm: sudo X -configure
[20:48] <nejm> it only gives errors
[20:48] <nejm> cannot connect to server
[20:48] <Maimster> nejm: I think putting the older xorg.conf file afterwards allows nVidia to use the older file.
[20:48] <Guest18333> i've installed it successfully and logged into website URL Gateway of my Company. After that i am clicking / trying to launch the session and the windows doesn't popup.
[20:49] <Guest18333> I also have Oracle JDK 8.0 installed in case it is required. Bashing-om
[20:49] <nejm> Maimster: I allready tried switching to my oldest backup but to no avail
[20:49] <Maimster> brb....
[20:49] <nejm> :(
[20:49] <Bashing-om> Guest18333: sorry - your issue is out of my skill set .
[20:51] <Guest18333> OK Bashing-om
[20:51] <Guest18333> Does anybody know to FIX Citrix Receiver issue here ?
[20:52] <OerHeks> Guest did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo ??
[20:53] <Guest18333> Yes i did 0erHeks
[20:53] <Maimster> nejm: Which version of nVidia driver are you trying to install? I gonna try to same one.
[20:53] <Guest18333> But that is mentioned that, it is for Ubuntu 14
[20:53] <Guest18333> i am using 16.04.01
[20:53] <tmuwa> Guest18333: It seems to be a Citrix Problem. Maybe you are more successful in the #citrix channel
[20:54] <Guest18333> OK, let me give a try there
[20:54] <OerHeks> guest see the end of that page, issue 3
[20:54] <Guest18333> OK
[20:54] <Guest18333> Will check that page.
[20:55] <nejm> Maimster: I'll send you the link
[20:55] <Maimster> nejm: Cool
[20:55] <nejm> Maimster: mind if we switch to pm? the channel is getting pretty cluttered.... :P
[20:55] <Guest18333> That is the not the issue. it is not at all popping up. I am using Ubuntu Gnome , not Unity.
[20:55] <Maimster> nejm: sure
[20:56] <nejm> did that work?
[20:56] <tmuwa> Guest18333: Have you started it via terminal? Any debug messages?
[20:58] <Guest18333> i will not able to start my office desktop session using command line i believe.
[20:58] <Guest18333> if there is a method for that, i am not sure of that.
[21:00] <tmuwa> in linux you can start every programm via terminal. It will open in a new window. but the terminal will show debug messages. just try it.
[21:01] <tmuwa> just type the name of the programm you want to start
[21:04] <nejm> tmuwa it's one m :P
[21:04] <nejm> You are german probably?
[21:05] <i_and_i> what is the best debugger for Python in Ubuntu
[21:06] <i_and_i> 16.04
[21:06] <kode54> had some fun setting up libvirt with a Windows 10 VM on 16.04.1
[21:07] <kode54> turns out, not blacklisting the nouveau driver before attempting to steal it with managed insertion into a VM is a bad idea
[21:07] <kode54> leads to a couple of kernel oopses
[21:09] <tmuwa> nejm: yes. sorry ;-:
[21:13] <tmuwa> nejm: My daughter steels my sleep. So I am a little tired.
[21:27] <aviral> processing
[21:27] <aviral> join /processing
[21:29] <imotouux> does someone know how to get notepadqq to run in elementary os 0.4? or is there a .deb package of it? couldn't find one
[21:29] <tomreyn> !elementary | imotouux
[21:31] <imotouux> yea but there's no one having an answer
[21:31] <ikonia> imotouux: then wait in their channel
[21:31] <ikonia> imotouux: this channel does not pick up the slack for poor support in other channels
[21:31] <imotouux> i am though xd
[21:32] <imotouux> okay :(
[21:32] <imotouux> but you can answer my second question
[21:32] <ikonia> no
[21:32] <imotouux> if there is any .deb package of notepadqq
[21:32] <ikonia> no
[21:32] <imotouux> sure
[21:32] <ikonia> we do not pick up the slack for your choice of distro that has poor support
[21:32] <imotouux> otherwise this is poor support too
[21:33] <Sweepyoface> Hey, /sys/class/net/eth0/statistics/rx_bytes the amount of bytes received from the last boot right?
[21:33] <ikonia> imotouux: this is good support for ubuntu
[21:33] <ikonia> Sweepyoface: correct
[21:33] <ikonia> Sweepyoface: represents the couters in ifconfig
[21:33] <Sweepyoface> Ah, is there an equiv for outgoing?
[21:34] <imotouux> so tell me how to get notepadqq using terminal in ubuntu 16.04
[21:34] <ikonia> imotouux: you're not using ubuntu
[21:34] <imotouux> i am
[21:34] <imotouux> kinda
[21:34] <ikonia> imotouux: please dont try to push lies support
[21:34] <ikonia> imotouux: no - not at all
[21:34] <imotouux> xD
[21:34] <ikonia> I'm not laughing,
[21:34] <imotouux> i am
[21:34] <kode54> huh
[21:35] <Sweepyoface> I was looking at nload and not sure where it gets the outgoing stuff
[21:35] <kode54> does Webmin require kernel BANDWIDTH_IN and BANDWIDTH_OUT notices to flood the syslogs?
[21:35] <kode54> I found that after leaving Webmin's bandwidth monitoring running for a day or two, I had 7GB worth of logs in my /var/log
[21:35] <ikonia> kode54: webmin is not supported heere
[21:35] <ikonia> here
[21:36] <kode54> right, sorry
[21:36] <kode54> wasn't my idea to install it anyway
[21:36] <ikonia> no need for sorry
[21:36] <ikonia> you can install what you want
[21:36] <kode54> does it have a channel?
[21:36] <kode54> I'll bug them
[21:37] <ikonia> no idea
[21:37] <ikonia> have a look
[21:37] <Sweepyoface> Ah to tx_bytes is outgoing, why is nload showing a number 10GB less than it then?
[21:37] <Sweepyoface> s/to/so
[21:38] <ikonia> not everything uses that interface ?
[21:38] <Sweepyoface> It does though
[21:38] <Sweepyoface> https://linux.die.net/man/1/nload
[21:38] <adrian_1908> hello. Can anyone recommend a fast image viewer with basic editing features like cropping? A viewer, but an editor. I'm trying to ween myself off XnView, since it has a shitload of dependencies I'd rather avoid.
[21:38] <adrian_1908> *a viewer, not an editor
[21:39] <ikonia> Sweepyoface: so you're saying nload is showing 10GB less than the RX/TX traffic on that interface since last boot ?
[21:41] <gebruiker> is there a way to capture a url of a stream?
[21:41] <Lewoco> Where do I get the magic string that I can use to add a PPA?
[21:41] <ikonia> depends on the web site, and you could sniff it from the network card interface
[21:41] <Lewoco> According to help it should be written in bold on the PPA page but it's not.
[21:41] <gebruiker> ikonia: what program could help me with this?
[21:42] <Menzador> Lewoco - what PPA are you trying to add?
[21:42] <ikonia> gebruiker: tcpdump ?
[21:42] <Sweepyoface> ikonia, nload is showing 64.99GB but tx_bytes returns ~69781547347
[21:42] <Lewoco> Menzador: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64
[21:42] <Sweepyoface> not 10GB but different, my bad
[21:42] <ikonia> Sweepyoface: you'll have to do the maths for me
[21:42] <Sweepyoface> 69.78GB
[21:42] <ikonia> Sweepyoface: rounding ?
[21:42] <Menzador> Lewoco - are you trying to upgrade yoyr release?
[21:42] <Menzador> *yout
[21:42] <Menzador> **your
[21:42] <ikonia> Sweepyoface: retry/packet re-send ?
[21:43] <Lewoco> Menzador: Not really, I just want newer versions of KDE stuff
[21:43] <Sweepyoface> but all it does it read from that file I thought
[21:43] <Lewoco> Menzador: The ones that come with xenial are buggy
[21:43] <ikonia> Sweepyoface: I don't know how nload works under the hood
[21:43] <Menzador> Lewoco - you're looking for Kubuntu Backports, I believe
[21:43] <Sweepyoface> so you're saying that file should return the exact amount reliably?
[21:44] <ikonia> Sweepyoface: no, I'm saying I don't know how nload works under the hood
[21:44] <Sweepyoface> I just don't know which is more accurate lol
[21:44] <Menzador> Lewoco - the "magic string" is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:45] <Menzador> Lewoco - although you might get more support for the Kubuntu Backports PPA in #kubuntu
[21:47] <LordNelthon> how much swap do you recommend for 16gb of ram, when using virtual machines (sometimes 4 at the same time, usually 1GB each)?
[21:47] <LordNelthon> and no need for hibernation
[21:47] <Ben64> 0gb
[21:49] <SquishyOctopus> I wouldn't use any swap if you have 16gb of ram.
[21:50] <Lewoco> Menzador: Ok I think I get it: The link I provided is not actually a PPA, just a platform supported by PPA's.
[21:51] <Menzador> Yeah, something like that
[21:51] <LordNelthon> thanks, I will try with no swap, and if needed I will use a swap file :)
[21:51] <Lewoco> tyvm
[21:55] <LordNelthon> I'm trying ubuntu in virtualbox, but when I reach this stage https://puu.sh/sSTj4/bc58d95b03.png it seems the system does not recognise the password input
[21:55] <LordNelthon> sometimes I get a clear purple screen and if I type the password and enter it works
[21:57] <Oncom> whereis dwm
[21:58] <Oncom> dwm.conf?
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> Oncom  use    locate dwm
[22:00] <ducasse> Oncom: 'apt show dwm' - see bottom paragraph
[22:04] <mjh75> I have a weird problem. I try installing Ubuntu 16.04 from a USB flash drive or CD and when it tries to partition the 500 GB SATA disk /dev/sda goes away and /dev/sdc comes up, it is the same drive just moving. I cancel the install, try again and this time try to partition /dev/sdc and it goes away and I am back with /dev/sda.
[22:08] <squinty> mjh75, might want to try using gparted (on the live cd) before starting the actual installation itself to see if that makes any difference
[22:08] <ikonia> mjh75: look in the syslog
[22:08] <ikonia> mjh75: I suspect you'll see the sata port resetting
[22:08] <mjh75> ikonia: okay, is there a fix or do I have to go with Windows?
[22:09] <ikonia> you need to understand what's going on before we know how to fix it
[22:11] <mjh75> There are a number of lines in dmesg that are red. Buffer I/O error on dev sda, logical block 0, async page read
[22:12] <mjh75> A number of exception Emak 0x10 stuff
[22:12] <mjh75> The drive is brand new, only ever installed in this machine.
[22:13] <mjh75> I suppose I could try a different drive just to see if it is any different
[22:14] <squinty> or unplug/plug the drive/cables etc to make sure you have good connectivity
[22:15] <mjh75> I did that a number of times. It an a Lenovo all in one so no cables just sockets, but I have reseated the drive a few times. Guess it won't hurt to try a different drive. I will do that now
[22:17] <randy_> I'm having an issue when I watch YouTube videos, my mouse and keyboard freeze up and wont respond. Is this a known issue?
[22:47] <funabashi> hello guys, i have upgraded my ubuntu server today. i want to know why my irssi theme looks so wierd ..
[22:53] <propman> !amd
[23:23] <nejm> Hi everyone, what is the package name that contains all packages that are installed by an installation of Ubuntu 16.01?
[23:24] <nejm> I believe such a package existed...
[23:26] <CoderEurope> !packages
[23:27] <OerHeks> No package like that, you can query the list> dpkg-query -l
[23:27] <OerHeks> or dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list
[23:27] <Flannel> nejm: There's a couple of ones that make up "most" of it (but they don't include a kernel, etc).  ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard, and ubuntu-desktop
[23:28] <nejm> so ubuntu-desktop is the thing I'm looking for? I thougt it was just the GUI...
[23:28] <nejm> I purged ubuntu-desktop namely...
[23:28] <Sweepyoface> lol I forgot apt search was a thing
[23:29] <Sweepyoface> I was using apt list and grep
[23:29] <OerHeks> That is the metapackage, http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntu-desktop
[23:30] <nejm> oooooooooooooooooooooo
[23:30] <nejm> thanks guys!