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valorie!info dolphin trusty00:00
ubottudolphin (source: kde-baseapps): file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.1 (trusty), package size 1094 kB, installed size 2827 kB00:00
valorie!info dolphin zesty00:01
ubottudolphin (source: dolphin): file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 1007 kB, installed size 3341 kB00:01
valorieso we support two right now: 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1 in yakkety00:01
yocs0000valorie: sudo apt-get install dolphin400:01
valorie!info dolphin400:01
ubottudolphin4 (source: kde-baseapps): file browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 561 kB, installed size 2388 kB00:02
valorieokey-doke, you can00:02
valoriebut why?00:02
yocs0000valorie: I know that00:02
valorieactually, that's the same00:02
valorieso perhaps it's not fully ported yet?00:02
yocs0000valorie: to use some scripts that are only for dolphin400:03
valorieit's the same00:03
valorieor, hmmm00:03
valorieubottu is feeding us wonky info00:03
ubottuvalorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:03
valorieanyway, try and see00:04
yocs0000valorie: thanks!00:04
yocs0000have to go, have a good evening!00:05
acheronukis what the same?00:05
valorieacheronuk: dolphin400:09
valorieand dolphin without the 400:09
valoriethey have the same version number according to ubottu00:09
valorie!info dophine00:09
ubottuPackage dophine does not exist in yakkety00:09
valoriepfff00:09
valorie!info dophin00:09
ubottuPackage dophin does not exist in yakkety00:09
valorie!info dolphin00:09
ubottudolphin (source: dolphin): file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1007 kB, installed size 3341 kB00:09
valorie!info dolphin400:10
ubottudolphin4 (source: kde-baseapps): file browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 561 kB, installed size 2388 kB00:10
acheronukyes, but they are part of kde apps, so the versions will be the same00:10
acheronuk16.04.3 in this case, as all the apps of that release are00:10
acheronukbut they are produced by different source packages00:11
acheronukkde-baseapps which is old legacy qt4 stuff00:12
acheronukand dolphin source which is a new qt5 version00:12
valoriethat's what I thought, but the versioning is strange to me00:15
acheronukjust both part of a single kde app release, so they have the same.00:16
acheronukinternal versions will be different00:17
arturo_helloo, can someone help me? I'd like to customize the way I move the windows to give it a mac effect, how can I install this?00:19
valoriealt+f2 and type effects00:20
valorieI dunno what "mac effect" is, but maybe you'll find one you like00:21
arturo_lol coool00:26
arturo_yeah I found what I wanted, it's called woobly window00:26
arturo_btw how can I make a snap of my OS? since I'm new to linux I'm afraid that I could mess up something00:27
IrcsomeBotVitorLeSantos was removed by: VitorLeSantos00:30
arturo_and btw how can I switch between virtual desktops?00:31
FritigernI have a bit of an issue. I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 16.10, but now most of my ports seem to be blocked. Before I did the reinstall, this was not the case. I have a couple of port ranges which I wish to open for a few different servers and daemons that I am running. For example, I would like to SSH to my machine on port 22, and have a game server running on port 31294 (or there abouts)01:00
FritigernTo be clear, this is NOT a router issue, my router did not see a config change in a very long time01:00
arturohow can I minimize all the windows at once with the keyboard?02:21
arturocontrol+F12, found it02:22
soeethey are not minimized imo02:25
soeethis is show desktop effect and you see transparent part of the windows in the screen corners02:25
EventHorizonafternoon everyone...  Where is the lock screen clock.qml?  The login screen is at:/usr/share/sddm/themes/breeze/components/02:25
soeethere is a widget with button to minimize all windows02:25
lauritzt[m]EventHorizon: The theme is in /usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel/org.kde.breeze.desktop/contents/lockscreen/, though it doesn't contact a clock.qml file.03:54
EventHorizonafternoon.  any idea where the lock screen clock.qml is located???03:58
LewocoWhat does the 'Activity Pager' widget that you can add to your task bar actually do?04:13
LewocoI've added it but it doesn't seem to occupy any space so I can't even see it unless I modify the task bar settings.04:13
LewocoOh I think I get it, "Activities" are a container for workspaces.04:21
irctc353how do I get my seagate 2TB formatted as exFAT to read on kubuntu?  i search online and found out all i need to do is typed in sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils but nothing happens, terminal says Package exfat-utils is not available but is referred to by another package This may mean that the package is missing is obsoleted or is only available from another source07:10
irctc353hello? anybody here07:13
valorieirctc353: what version of Kubuntu?07:16
irctc35316.1007:16
valorie!info exfat-fuse07:16
ubottuexfat-fuse (source: fuse-exfat): read and write exFAT driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1 (yakkety), package size 29 kB, installed size 78 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)07:16
valorie!info exfat-utils07:17
ubottuexfat-utils (source: exfat-utils): utilities to create, check, label and dump exFAT filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1 (yakkety), package size 47 kB, installed size 251 kB07:17
valoriedid you do sudo apt update first?07:17
valorieyou might try `sudo apt update && sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils`07:18
irctc353its updating now07:19
irctc353i guess i didnt do sudo update first07:21
irctc353i have another question, i was searching for VLC on Software Center and cant find it07:22
irctc353!info vlc07:27
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-4 (yakkety), package size 2026 kB, installed size 6730 kB07:27
DarinMillerirctc353: The software center is going through some growing pains as the moment and does not display all packages.07:28
DarinMillersudo apt install vlc  should do the trick.07:28
LINKSWORD2Hello, claydoh, Cueball, Khaotic and Elysion_..... Been a long time since I've seen you all.08:42
LINKSWORD2I could use some help. I keep getting a notification icon in the popup button that shows battery and power settings. I would like to disable or remove that if possible.08:44
efloidyaay just upgraded via backports to 5.8.4!  everything looking good10:58
efloidthank you so much everyone.10:59
acheronukefloid: :)10:59
_Wens_backports mean kubuntu-ppa/backports?11:01
acheronuk_Wens_: yes11:02
_Wens_thanks11:02
efloidwow i remember kde v.3 years ago.  i loved it.  now we're at 5.8.  so awesome11:16
efloidit was kind of a bumpy ride after 4, but now... wow - it's better than ever11:18
user|45049Hi all!11:27
user|45049I would like to request upgrading KDE Connect packege in xenail repository to at least 1.011:28
user|45049where can I do it?11:28
acheronukuser|45049: kdeconnect 1.0.1 is in the kubuntu backports ppa. I'm told as far as I recall that it's too big a version change to put into the main ubuntu archive11:32
user|45049I see. Thanks a lot acheronuk!11:37
javi_hi, I have a bug that can reproduce every time, but need debug symbols to create a usefull bug report. How can I install debug symbols for plasmashell, libtaskmanager, libtaskmanagerplugin and qt5qml in kubuntu zesty proposed?11:59
acheronukjavi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages12:16
javi_acheronuk: thanks for that!, didn't know dbg packages had their own repo! (this wasn't the case before)12:26
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SmurphyAnyone has a hint for some nice animated backgrounds for plasma desktop?13:00
acheronuknot here. I have enough trouble finding a normal one I like :P13:01
Smurphyyeah. I know what you mean.13:04
SmurphyGot some nice hires Space pics I use. But I remember xearth from old linux times, where you had a picture of earth rotating according to your time of the day etc.13:04
SmurphyMarble did that. But I don't find it for the latest plasma/integrated.13:04
renn0xtk9does anybody knows why removing an icon theme   suggests you to remove codesc, unrelated software and what not ... http://pastebin.com/d3NQ1LV313:16
rangemongerare there any qt apps to manage fstab?13:17
BluesKajHi folks13:59
carcinomahi @all14:16
soeehiho14:17
carcinomai have a question about the kubuntu backports ppa. Currently there are packages from plasma 5.8. I thought they should only in backports-landing cause there are in testing. Did i miss something. Are they considered sable now?14:17
carcinomastable ... i mean14:17
BluesKajcarcinoma, your question is more appropriate for #kubuntu-devel14:42
soeecarcinoma: no, they should be in backports as devs moved them there14:47
soeethere was no official announcement yet as devs wanted to fix any issues reported by early bckports users14:47
aton`_hi15:00
carcinomasoee: BluesKaj: so it is correct that they are in backports and backports-landing? Or should i re-ask in #kubuntu-devel?15:02
aton`_i am trying to boot the live dvd, the kubuntu logo appears, then the screen shows funny colors, then a few lines about ring3 and ring0 took too long15:02
aton`_probably a graphics card problem?15:02
aton`_i googled and found radeon.dpm=1 boot option, which didnt change anything for me (couldnt boot)15:02
BluesKajcarcinoma, not sure15:04
soeecarcinoma: it all in place, when packages from landing are tested they are copied to backports, than if devs have some fixes for them they apply them again in landing, testing them there and if all is fine again copy to backports15:05
soeeaton`_: sorry i have 0 experiance with radeons15:06
BluesKajaton`_, drop to a VT/TTY (ctl+alt+F1-F6), login and install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu15:08
aton`_BluesKaj: ok i will try that15:10
aton`_there is a small symbol in the lower mid of the screen, depicting a keyboad = a man15:11
aton`_after that the kubuntu logo is displayed15:12
aton`_when i switch to a vt, they are not ready by then15:12
aton`_just a cursor, no prompt15:12
aton`_whats the root password of the live dvd?15:15
aton`_ring 0 stalled for more than xxx ms15:15
aton`_rebooting15:15
aton`_in radeon module15:15
aton`_i dont have enough time to install anything15:16
aton`_i need to disable the radeon module at boot15:16
BluesKajaton`_,sometimes F1 doesn't give you a VT/TTY, try ctl+alt+F215:20
aton`_f1 is the graphics terminal15:21
aton`_i was in f215:21
aton`_the system boots fine, but then it tried to load the radeon module and that fails15:24
aton`_can i somehow prevent x from starting on the live-dvd?15:26
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aton`_wow, using "nomodeset" worked15:36
BluesKajgood15:40
aton`_now installing on hd, i will try the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu then15:42
aton`_are these the open source video drivers?15:43
BluesKajaton`_, yes15:48
hamidHello!16:25
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BluesKajhi Guest9635016:26
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Guest96350Hey BluesKaj, was checking what happened to nickname! will sort that out later.16:37
BluesKajHaudegen, did you register your nick?16:37
BluesKajoops Guest96350^16:38
Guest96350No, just read about registration to server.16:38
BluesKajwell, that's where one registers16:38
Guest96350Is it simple? I do it now or later? I have another question about upgrade.16:39
Guest96350I mean registration16:39
BluesKajok , what's your question16:39
DunoCZHello everybody :)16:39
BluesKajhi DunoCZ16:40
Guest96350Upgraded to 16.10 but uname -r returns 4.4.0-21-generic.16:40
Guest96350Shouldn't the kernel be upgraded to the latest stable?16:40
BluesKajGuest96350, have you updated and upgraded your packages since installing 16.1016:40
Guest96350Well I have sudo do-release-upgrade16:42
BluesKajnow do, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade16:43
Guest96350Reading package lists... Done16:45
Guest96350Reading package lists... Done16:45
Guest96350Building dependency tree16:45
Guest96350Reading state information... Done16:45
Guest96350Calculating upgrade... Done16:45
Guest96350The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:16:45
BluesKajGuest96350, no need to post that16:45
Guest96350Ok!16:46
Guest96350Then what is wrong?16:47
BluesKajGuest96350, try sudo apt full-upgrade16:50
Guest96350same result16:52
HaudegenBluesKaj: yes.16:53
BluesKajsoee, Haudegen typo 'd wrong nick16:54
BluesKajsorry that is16:54
HaudegenBluesKaj: No problem.16:54
BluesKajGuest96350, run lsb-release -r , what's the output?17:01
BluesKajcorrection lsb_release -r17:01
Guest96350Release:        16.1017:03
BluesKajGuest96350, do you have update-manager-core installed?17:05
Guest96350No17:07
BluesKajinstall it17:07
Guest96350Thought it was a command17:08
Guest96350update-manager-core is already the newest version (1:16.10.8)17:08
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blablablaIt's not really possible to have compressed file system without using ZFS or BTRFS right.17:46
blablablaboth are rather complicated for small images.17:46
blablablasquashfs not really an option because needs to be writable.17:47
blablablajffs2 seems doable but I wonder. You can create jffs2 image file, then loopback device, then turn into mtd device, then mount that :p but wouldn't be easy to do using standard tools.17:54
blablablaI could use squashfs and regular filesystem for modifications and then once in a time create a new squashfs based on changes :p.18:07
blablablawith overlay18:07
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frische_lufthello guys, I have a question: is there a chance to get my audio system to work?: HP Pavillion x2 detachable.18:26
BluesKajfrische_luft, what does aplay -l in the terminal output?18:31
BluesKajpaste the results in pastebin18:31
BluesKaj!paste18:32
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:32
frische_lufthttps://api.smartredirect.de/api_v2/ClickGate.php?p=mGrZ7Eo09S&k=5734f594f6d416dffd7fc7faa0599a1c&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.hp.com%2FGermanyStore%2FMerch%2FOffer.aspx%3Fp%3Dc-hp-pavilion-x2-10&q=hp+pavilion+x2+detachable+b+%26+o+audio+system18:35
frische_lufthttps://thepasteb.in/p/P1hv8JxX8K7Ul18:35
frische_luftI am sure I am not the only one who has kubuntu on this laptop (formerly Win10 )18:36
BluesKajfrische_luft, you have an outboard usb audio card?. what about the onboard audio?18:38
frische_luftyes, I have an usb soundcard.18:38
frische_luftinternly there is the Bang & Olufson "Play sound system".18:39
frische_luftBut with changing to kubuntu it didnĀ“ t work anymore.18:39
frische_lufthttp://store.hp.com/GermanyStore/Merch/Offer.aspx?p=c-hp-pavilion-x2-10&utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=cpa&utm_campaign=adgoal+DE&utm_content=0&jumpid=af_zky3rxgb21/site:adgoal+DE18:41
BluesKajfrische_luft,  lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio" and pastbin the result18:41
frische_luftno info18:42
BluesKajopy and paste the string above including the quotes18:43
BluesKajcopy18:43
frische_luftdid it. but there is no answer. it just comes another command line with my login18:44
BluesKajfrische_luft, ok, try, lspci -nn | grep -i audio18:45
frische_luftnegative. no output, no info18:47
momkenHello18:48
momkenI am new to kde18:48
momkenBut what is akonadi and why it has so much processes running and takes so much ram?18:49
frische_lufthttps://thepasteb.in/p/Vmh0NzApNYgH418:53
BluesKajakonadi is a Personal Information Server for email contacts etc , mainly used in work environments , for home users it's usually uncessary18:53
BluesKajfrische_luft,  sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if the module/driver loads properly there will be no output18:56
momkenThe mysql instance launched by akonadiserver takes ~850MB ram, which is very much18:57
momkenIt is not optimized at all18:58
BluesKajdo you need mysql ?18:59
BluesKajor akonadi18:59
momkenBluesKaj: I need none of them19:00
momkenBut when I installed kubuntu it was installed19:00
momkenIf I can have akonadi installed without being run it is acceptable19:01
momkenAnd about Akonadi, I think Mozilla Thunderbird is far more extensible than Akonadi. If I want to use a Personal Information Software I would prefer Thunderbird, even though it doesn't integrates with KDE well19:02
frische_luftBluesKaj: no, there is no output for this command19:03
BluesKajfrische_luft, then you have the intel audio driver loaded , try a reboot19:07
BluesKajmomken, you can go into system settings>startup&shutdown>desktop session, in the space below apps to be excluded from sessions type in akonadi-server, baloo, mysql19:11
BluesKajthen apply of course, then you may have to reboot19:13
BluesKajok,...BBL19:14
frische_luftBluesKaj: no info. What does it mean? That there is no intel driver?19:15
BluesKajfrische_luft, it means the driver loaded19:16
sintrefrische , this new install?19:16
frische_luftsintre: beg your pardon?19:35
frische_luftBluesKaj: thanks yo far, will let you know about the status. ( if you are here online regularely)19:57
BluesKajfrische_luft, another try would be open alsamixer in the terminal amd disable automute plus set your volume ctls near 100%, and F6 to choose your souncard19:59
frische_luftBluesKaj: ok, will try this as well.20:00
momkenBluesKaj: I found that MySql taking 800MB ram was a bug of MySql 5.7.12. I am upgrading the system so that the MySql with be updated to 5.7.16 and the MySql ram usage will be ~200MB20:04
BluesKajmomken, ok good, I'm not very knowledgeable about mysql and databases in general20:05
momkenBluesKaj: I asked from #kde channel. It seems that is a general bug of MySql configuration, even in Ubuntu server 16.04. It become fixed after update20:07
momkenhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/157693020:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1576930 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Excessive consumption RAM of mysqld daemon in Ubuntu 16.04" [High,Confirmed]20:07
BluesKajmomken, yes i saw you in #kde, they're very knowlegeable there20:08
momkenYeah.20:08
momkenI spoke with you with the kubuntu__ user from live usb session of kubuntu yesterday. I said I am new to KDE and that previously I was using xfce20:09
momkenI am getting used to kde more each day. But still I am not that much used to it, compared to simple xfce20:10
momkenend of my comments :)20:11
BluesKajmomken, KDE/Plasma is very flexible and configurable , much more so than Unity and the other flavours20:15
dev_are_cock_sucin respond of a comment made yesterday and after a whole dayof attempting to install kubunu without success : no kubuntu is not doing fine !20:25
* BluesKaj turns on the ignore option20:27
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blablablamomken: You can disable akonadi with akonadictl disable, I believe.21:20
blablablamomken: You can't fully remove everything because Dolphin etc. depends on its libraries.21:21
blablablamomken: but the general opinion is that it sucks rat's asses, I still don't know why they keep shipping it.21:22
sintrelooked at thatprogram , he's right it eats up a boat load of ram with all its processes21:22
sintrenever noticed it before21:22
blablablamomken: the Fedora maintainer resolved a while a go to not do that program any more, calling it a load of shit or something.21:23
bruce__why is the default font size in konsole so small, or do i need glasses?21:23
sintrehave like 15 different related proccess all eating like 15-20 mb each here21:23
sintrei keep getting a wierd console crash everytime i open then close it it tells me it crashed21:24
sintrebut spoeaking of that just increase the size ,21:24
sintrethen close it , it should open up same size next time or atleast mine does21:24
momkenblablabla: I was not a KDE user before. After booting to fedora, I thought it is only my opinion that Akonadi is useless21:27
sintrewell seems to be a waste of ram for me21:27
sintrei guess i'm lucky i'm using a ssd in this older lappy other wiase i'd be choked21:28
momkenIf at least Akonadi and the apps using it could connect to popular online services it could be good. But unfortunately it is not plugginable!21:28
momkensintre: Yeah, Akonadi uses much ram, but the most of ram used is in the MySql instance it launches. After upgrading kubuntu to last packages, MySql ram usage should be decreased from 800MB to 200MB21:29
momkenAnyway a bare Kubuntu will use Around 700-800 MB ram, of which I guess 200-300 MB will be of Akonadi!!!21:30
sintrei easily see around 300 mb myself21:31
sintrewhy do we need some prloaded thing for notes lol21:31
sintre30mb for notetaking?21:31
sintreanother for newmail notfier?21:32
sintrelol silly stuff21:32
blablablaI guess I should use ZFS for my thing. I just was a little bit beliggerent about having to learn something new ;-) (Weird sun syntax :p).21:48
blablablaInstead I went for squashfs with a regular filesystem overlay for now.21:49
blablablaThat in itself is quite reasonable compression and you only have to recreate the squashfs now and then, which in itself is a chore, but maybe not so bad for now.21:50
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momkenblablabla: If you need compression for faster IO/ smaller size, you can also use Btrfs which supports lzo and gzip compressino methods. But ZFS is generally more superior I think.21:58
blablablayes I want to stay away from btrfs, thank you. I think zfs is a better choice too.21:59
blablablaI just did not want to learn a new volume management system, I guess ;-).22:04
blablablaa small container of some 1.1G will easily compress down to 380MB, which is quite nice, I think.22:05
blablablaI mean an LXC container.22:05
blablablaI even would have preferred to have a compressed container but those don't exist.22:06
blablablaYou know, a device mapper that would take an existing fixed-size block device (or image) and compress it in a way that it can be mapped and manipulated as a compressed source for that image.22:08
bruce__greetings all. where is evince?22:08
dajomuHi Can anyone help me with at digikam question? Where does digikam store the Mysql db files? In the database settings I have /home/david/Pictures/, but I cannot find any files there. I am using Ubuntu 16.10 and digikam 5.322:14
momkenbruce__: Evince is default pdf-viewer of Ubuntu and other Gtk-based desktops22:15
sintrek lil problem here , everytime i close the konsole it gives me a pop up saying konsole crashed22:16
sintreusing 16.04 with backports any ideas?22:16
momkenHere we have Okular which is much better than evince, specially that it has commenting and bookmarking option.22:16
momkenExcept that Evince's printer preview option was better in xfce. In KDE I am not sure whether Okular has print preview or not, but in xfce it didn't have22:17
DarinMillersintre: I too see the same error for the the 1st line when running konsole &, but I do not have the "Invalid Context= "stock" line for icon theme:  " errors.  Try changing to a different icon set to see if anything improves.  If not, change back.22:17
momkenSimply speaking, use Okular for reading/commenting Pdfs, and use Evince for printing :D22:18
sintreunfurtately , no go changed icon pack , and no konsole won't even load22:19
sintreagain22:19
sintrestarts to see the lil box at botton and busy cursor with new theme then disapears after 3 seconds22:20
DarinMillersintre: what version of plasma and qt does kinfo show?22:22
sintre5.8.422:22
sintreframework 5.28.022:23
sintreqt 5.6.122:23
DarinMillersintre: can you create a temporary new user to see if the new user has the crashing problem?22:26
sintrewell i'll give it a shot22:27
sintre2logged in as guest gues my normal nickname still in sue by me22:30
sintre2so lets try this22:30
sintre2yep same crash22:31
sintre2report22:31
momkensintre, DarinMiller: I become able to turn off Akonadi startup upon boot by making "StartServer=false" in /home/momken/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc22:31
momkenAfter boot it only took ~400MB ram instead of ~800MB :D22:32
sintre2cute wal paper though hehe , never logged in as guest before22:32
sintre2momken> write that down for me :)22:32
sintre2right now gotta get konsole workin again lol22:32
sintre2yep same symptom after first use of konsole as well22:33
sintre2won't open konsole again22:34
sintre2this time gave me a sad face though22:34
momkenAfter setting "StartServer22:35
sintre2https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBMJwvLDxS822:35
momkenAfter setting "StartServer=false" for Akonadi, now Kontact, KMail, etc. don't work correctly, which is good :))22:36
sintre2nice , i use none of those apps anyways :)22:36
sintre2thunder bird and firefox22:36
DarinMilleropen the sad face.  The information in the crash report may be of use Rik in akeronuk in kubuntu-devel.22:36
sintre2its in link22:37
DarinMillersintre2:  are you running the nvidia PPA?22:38
DarinMillerI see you are using the NVidia 340 driver....22:38
sintre2this guest account is using whatever is generic22:38
sintre2seems because its whining about drivers22:39
sintre2same exact thing using nvidia drivers on msain account22:39
DarinMillersome of the new packages work better with the patched nvidia drivers.22:39
DarinMillerGive this a shot: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa22:39
sintre2thx will do , gotta run for now , gave all info maybe some ideas will come to somebody22:40
sintre2probally is unique to me , but you need your konsole ya know :)22:40
sintre2thx for trouble shooting , gonna go get some dinner22:40
DarinMillerno, I have seen the issue myself but not for quite some time.22:41
sintre2well my system is very old so maybe why22:41
DarinMillersintre2: ttl22:41
sintre2nvidia 8400 gm nvidia mobile22:41
sintre2core 2 duo 1.4 mz22:41
sintre22 gigs of ram22:41
sintre2this is my old work horse lappy22:41
DarinMillertry the patched drivers in the link above.  it should help (I have simialr card running drivers from the ppa, working fine).22:41
sintre2i have a newer one i just got that i'll test out next couple days and see if it happens there22:42
sintre2in guest accoutn wish i could copy and paste that , i assume you;ll be around next week or so?22:42
DarinMilleryour old system will work, just need to figure out the source of the chaos. :)22:42
sintre2keep link in mind22:43
sintre2:) yea it SHOULD work , we just gotta get it to hehe22:43
sintre2have a good one22:44
sintrelmao22:44
sintreso using guest accoutn kept this account live lol22:45
sintrewell i just learned something new22:45

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