| cyberanger | Omnifrog: what list? | 01:13 |
|---|---|---|
| Omnifrog | the nick list over there ---> | 01:34 |
| minasota | ah, I thought you were referring to you Christmas list | 02:48 |
| Omnifrog | I don't have an xmas list | 02:49 |
| Omnifrog | I hate December | 02:49 |
| Omnifrog | HATE! | 02:49 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: if you haven't noticed, this group hasn't been serious about anything in a long time. It's really just a place to... I'm not sure, a place to lurk I guess | 02:50 |
| Omnifrog | lol, I noticed | 02:50 |
| Omnifrog | I've had several places like that in my tabs for decades | 02:51 |
| minasota | Most of the ~10 folks in here don't even use *buntu as their OS | 02:51 |
| cyberanger | Omnifrog: There's a nick list to my right? | 02:51 |
| Omnifrog | I only use it on one box in this house | 02:52 |
| minasota | cyberanger: lol, bar toggle nicklist :p | 02:52 |
| Omnifrog | wait, I think my youngest son uses ubuntu | 02:52 |
| cyberanger | minasota: what bar? | 02:52 |
| minasota | the one you have obviously just came back from... :) | 02:53 |
| Omnifrog | I'm using hexchat at the moment so the nick list is in the right pane | 02:53 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: using weechat, can toggle the nicklist off or on | 02:54 |
| minasota | I never use it | 02:54 |
| Omnifrog | I don't mind the nicklist being there | 02:54 |
| minasota | I think it's a waste of space | 02:55 |
| Omnifrog | some rooms I'm in I need the list to be there | 02:55 |
| minasota | A few years ago, maybe about around 2008 2009 this channel was actually active | 02:57 |
| Omnifrog | also, I just discovered that the Chattanooga maker space is alive again | 02:58 |
| Omnifrog | they have new digs in down town Chatt | 02:58 |
| minasota | I've never been to a group meeting or whatever. Always wanted to, I thought I could learn alot by actually talking and seeing what others are doing | 02:59 |
| cyberanger | minasota: using ii right this second. | 03:00 |
| minasota | cyberanger: ok... | 03:00 |
| cyberanger | no nick list in that client | 03:00 |
| cyberanger | minasota: you might like it, very minimalist | 03:00 |
| minasota | cyberanger: I like what works | 03:01 |
| cyberanger | ii works well ;-) | 03:01 |
| Omnifrog | I've thought about joining but I'm not sure I want to commit to a $50 a month membership to something I may rarely if ever use | 03:01 |
| minasota | cyberanger: if what I have isn't broken and it works for me... | 03:01 |
| cyberanger | I think we were active more recently than 09, but yeah there was a time where we really tried meetups and all, that'd be 2010 at the latest | 03:02 |
| cyberanger | I think | 03:02 |
| cyberanger | Omnifrog: I have the same problem with gym memberships too | 03:02 |
| * Omnifrog is a GUI whore | 03:02 | |
| * cyberanger would like to point out Omnifrog said it. | 03:02 | |
| minasota | haha | 03:03 |
| Omnifrog | it's true | 03:03 |
| Omnifrog | <-- lazy as fuck | 03:03 |
| minasota | cyberanger: no need for a gym membership. I can put together a plan for you | 03:03 |
| cyberanger | minasota: my current plan works perfectly, I plan to not work out for the rest of the year | 03:04 |
| minasota | cyberanger: not good | 03:04 |
| minasota | terrible plan | 03:04 |
| minasota | Think of your body as you would one of your servers | 03:05 |
| cyberanger | minasota: I don't plan for much of anything for the next 14 days | 03:05 |
| cyberanger | ;-) | 03:05 |
| Omnifrog | I subscribe to the Winnie The Pooh fitness plan | 03:05 |
| Omnifrog | When I up, down and touch the ground | 03:06 |
| Omnifrog | It puts me in the mood | 03:06 |
| Omnifrog | Up, down and touch the ground | 03:06 |
| Omnifrog | In the mood for food | 03:06 |
| minasota | cyberanger: I have no idea what you are hinting at, but I'm sure it makes sense to you ;) | 03:06 |
| Omnifrog | ... | 03:06 |
| cyberanger | I said for the rest of the year, that's just 14 days away | 03:07 |
| Omnifrog | sorry, I babysit my almost 3 year old grand daughter a lot | 03:07 |
| cyberanger | Seriously, work keeps me active enough right now, and when that doesn't Salvation Army does this time of year (they do year round anyways, but this is a bit more so) | 03:07 |
| minasota | cyberanger: I do good to know it's Saturday | 03:07 |
| minasota | I slept since yesterday | 03:08 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: skip the food, pour yourself a bourbon | 03:08 |
| cyberanger | I've thought about a new years resolution, but 2016's was to blog more, 351 days later I've not yet published a single post.... | 03:09 |
| Omnifrog | I'm not a fan of the hard stuff | 03:09 |
| Omnifrog | I stick to beer | 03:09 |
| cyberanger | So if my 2017 Resolution was excerise.... | 03:09 |
| Omnifrog | ok... EXCEPT if the liqueur is Disaranno | 03:10 |
| minasota | My new years resolution is to buy a pen, maybe a fountain pen or maybe just a cheap bic. regardless, the resolution is to not lose it and keep it the entire year | 03:11 |
| Omnifrog | then we may have a problem | 03:11 |
| minasota | It sounds simple, but how many people can actually keep the same pen the whole year | 03:12 |
| cyberanger | minasota: that's easy enough, if you aren't required to use it, Buy the pen on New Years, then on the 2nd, get a safe deposit box, then no matter what you can't lose the pen. | 03:12 |
| Omnifrog | my current favorite pen is the Pilot G-2 .07 | 03:12 |
| cyberanger | Losing the key to the safe deposit box however.... | 03:12 |
| minasota | cyberanger: uh, yeah... nevermind | 03:13 |
| Omnifrog | the Pilot G-2 .10 is useful if you need a bolder line | 03:13 |
| cyberanger | I've got a pen I keep with my wallet, Drivers License and Passport (I have a passport wallet, passport, passport card and driver's license is always in it with, unless I am applying for a visa or something) | 03:14 |
| Omnifrog | the .07 has a fine line and requires very little pressure | 03:14 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: I like the G-2 but where I work it takes on 'hey man can I borrow your pen' then you get busy doing something and BAM, it's gone | 03:14 |
| cyberanger | I've hat it break, run out of ink or something, but never lost it. | 03:15 |
| Omnifrog | NO ONE takes my pen | 03:15 |
| cyberanger | And I usually give out my other pen. | 03:15 |
| Omnifrog | I protect my pen like people protect their drug stash | 03:16 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: when you're in a confined space inspecting a bearing where no man has gone before... it's not hard | 03:16 |
| Omnifrog | and yes, I have had my precious pens for over a year running | 03:17 |
| Omnifrog | you can have my pen when you pry it from my cold dead hands | 03:17 |
| minasota | cyberanger: that would work for me if I never had to do anything other than sit or stand in a controlled environment | 03:17 |
| cyberanger | minasota has it a bit harder to hold onto in his work enviroment, presuming that's still the same.... | 03:18 |
| minasota | cyberanger: don't test | 03:18 |
| Omnifrog | wait... inspecting a bearing? | 03:19 |
| cyberanger | mine isn't controlled, This year I've driven Semi's, so every security gate checking ID on entry and exit, airport security, customs and data centers. | 03:20 |
| Omnifrog | people are after your pens in bearing inspections? | 03:20 |
| minasota | cyberanger: so you have to get out your truck, ok. Or you have to walk thru a checkpoint, gasp. | 03:21 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: more like paint pens | 03:22 |
| cyberanger | Not just walk through, sign in, or sign a credit card slip (that's why the pen is with the wallet, seems like every signature involves ID or a Credit/Debit Card this year) | 03:22 |
| minasota | What if you don't own a CC | 03:23 |
| minasota | or is it company CC? | 03:23 |
| cyberanger | I nearly left it at TSA and their counterparts in Ireland this year. | 03:23 |
| Omnifrog | use bit coin, lol | 03:23 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: I sometimes find myself in a nacelle that houses a bearing most likely taller than the house you live in | 03:24 |
| cyberanger | Then replace CC with Debit, but it's harder for renting a car or (and for semi's it's a fuel card for buying Disel Fuel for the semi and doubles as an ATM card) | 03:24 |
| minasota | Just get a stamp lol | 03:25 |
| minasota | It's actually still a valid autho | 03:25 |
| cyberanger | Hotels too for that matter | 03:25 |
| Omnifrog | do you work on a starship minasota ? | 03:26 |
| cyberanger | Oh, and I did lose a cell phone to CATSA, but not the pen. | 03:26 |
| * cyberanger laughs.... | 03:26 | |
| Omnifrog | wait, they dont have bearing >.> | 03:26 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: in a galaxy far far away | 03:26 |
| Omnifrog | I'm team Star Trek | 03:26 |
| Omnifrog | we stay in this galaxy | 03:27 |
| minasota | Well, I'm determined to keep a pen the entire 365 days | 03:27 |
| Omnifrog | in at least 3 quadrants if this galaxy | 03:28 |
| Omnifrog | s/if/of | 03:28 |
| minasota | You gents have given me inspiration | 03:28 |
| cyberanger | CATSA being Canada's TSA (having said that, the cell was a cheap prepaid with a provider there, if I kept it it'd be in a drawer, so I wasn't exactly TRYING to keep it either) | 03:28 |
| minasota | If anything, I'll be damned if cyberanger can keep a pen for a year and I can't :) | 03:28 |
| Omnifrog | a mans pen is his .... well... pen | 03:29 |
| Omnifrog | I was gonna say castle but that would be stupid | 03:30 |
| cyberanger | Yeah, this pen I've had for 2 years, Christmas gift from an ex (What can I say, it's perfect with my wallet) | 03:30 |
| minasota | I do have a pen that I keep at home. I signed some things while in the military and I used to sign some sentimental docs afterwards | 03:30 |
| Omnifrog | I'm a former AF vet | 03:31 |
| minasota | what job? | 03:32 |
| Omnifrog | 94 AMU, 1st TAC | 03:32 |
| Omnifrog | crew chief | 03:32 |
| Omnifrog | F-15's | 03:32 |
| minasota | on which aircraft? | 03:32 |
| minasota | ah | 03:32 |
| Omnifrog | this was in the 80's | 03:33 |
| minasota | when did you get out? | 03:33 |
| Omnifrog | 86? | 03:33 |
| Omnifrog | maybe | 03:33 |
| minasota | How long did you serve? | 03:33 |
| Omnifrog | AF is a 4 year enlistment | 03:34 |
| Omnifrog | at least is was then | 03:34 |
| cyberanger | Omnifrog: 94th, that's Langly right? | 03:34 |
| Omnifrog | yep | 03:34 |
| cyberanger | It's F-22's now | 03:35 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: red x cert? | 03:35 |
| cyberanger | Sweet aircraft, both of them | 03:35 |
| Omnifrog | what? | 03:35 |
| minasota | cyberanger: they're at holloman | 03:35 |
| Omnifrog | they lost the F-15? | 03:35 |
| Omnifrog | F-15's are fucking awesome! | 03:36 |
| minasota | No, but the F-117 is no more. 22's moved in at Holloman | 03:36 |
| cyberanger | Omnifrog: in 05 | 03:36 |
| Omnifrog | huh | 03:36 |
| cyberanger | minasota: 22's in a few places | 03:36 |
| minasota | ok | 03:36 |
| Omnifrog | I'm totally biased | 03:37 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: I was asking if you had red x certs, meaning, could you sign off on a X ? | 03:37 |
| Omnifrog | minasota, I dont remember red x being a thing back then | 03:38 |
| minasota | mx forms... | 03:38 |
| minasota | / - X they havent changed | 03:38 |
| minasota | mx meaning maintenance | 03:38 |
| Omnifrog | my memory fais me | 03:39 |
| Omnifrog | fails | 03:39 |
| Omnifrog | it wasnt my chosen field | 03:40 |
| Omnifrog | lol | 03:40 |
| minasota | crew chief right? | 03:40 |
| Omnifrog | yeah | 03:40 |
| Omnifrog | I went in as an electronics/ computer specialist | 03:41 |
| minasota | so when you found a problem, there are three categories / - X | 03:41 |
| minasota | It hasn't changed since Adam | 03:41 |
| cyberanger | I know Langley and Elmendorf Have F-22's First hand, and I've heard Tyndall and Hickam have them too | 03:41 |
| Omnifrog | the day after I finished basic they told me my MOS pics were unavailable | 03:42 |
| Omnifrog | I had 3 choices. crew chief, plumber or go home on the next plane out | 03:43 |
| cyberanger | Omnifrog: sounds like the right call then. | 03:43 |
| Omnifrog | when you are 18 and you just got through basic training .... well... | 03:43 |
| Omnifrog | gotta make the call | 03:44 |
| cyberanger | I've also heard we've got them rotating into the Middle East somewhere, two intercepted a Syrian Su-24 over Hasakah. | 03:44 |
| Omnifrog | I pay very little attention to deployments | 03:47 |
| Omnifrog | ok, no attention | 03:47 |
| Omnifrog | these day I only pay attention to news from late night talk shows | 03:50 |
| Omnifrog | it's funny that way | 03:50 |
| cyberanger | I have an old work habit and don't pay attention to our deployments, but I still watch obscure news outlets and others deployments. | 03:53 |
| Omnifrog | whats' obscure? | 03:54 |
| Omnifrog | Linus's Law | 03:58 |
| Omnifrog | "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow" | 03:59 |
| Omnifrog | given enough websites all sites are obscure | 03:59 |
| cyberanger | Well, by obscure I mean not just CNN, Al Rai & Al Aan comes to mind. | 03:59 |
| Omnifrog | I don't pat attention to any of those | 04:00 |
| cyberanger | I think I follow 150+ news outlets | 04:00 |
| cyberanger | Or at least used to | 04:01 |
| Omnifrog | I think my feed list is around 80 sites | 04:01 |
| Omnifrog | yes, I still cling to RSS | 04:01 |
| cyberanger | For RSS, You and me both | 04:02 |
| Omnifrog | I don't care. I'm not giving it up | 04:02 |
| Omnifrog | I will die with an RSS feed list | 04:03 |
| Omnifrog | kids today might like their fancy twitter this and facebook that | 04:04 |
| Omnifrog | but NOT ME | 04:04 |
| Omnifrog | if an interesting tweet happens I'll see it in one of my RSS feeds | 04:05 |
| cyberanger | I deal with twitter too, for infosec news it's a godsend, but I use it and RSS together | 04:10 |
| * minasota likes his cl line newsbeuter | 04:13 | |
| Omnifrog | I got a twitter account days after it went public | 04:14 |
| Omnifrog | never found a use for it | 04:14 |
| cyberanger | For me I think it was day one. | 04:14 |
| cyberanger | I could see back then how it'd be better than facebook for me (I had SMS access, but no reliable web access) | 04:15 |
| minasota | I just want relevant content, no flash, just the data. I want control over how it's displayed and from the sources I choose | 04:19 |
| Omnifrog | I want funny cat pics | 04:20 |
| cyberanger | I hear that, noscript and digg reader is what I've wound up using. | 04:20 |
| cyberanger | I'm working on migrating to something like ttrss but that's work in progress. | 04:21 |
| Omnifrog | no script, uBlock , ghostery and Privacy Badger here | 04:27 |
| Omnifrog | I dont know what order the filters get applied but browsing the interwebs is pretty calm and uneventful for me | 04:29 |
| cyberanger | NoScript, Ghostery, Privacy Badger, AdBlock Plus, HTTPS Everywhere and Foxyproxy | 04:30 |
| Omnifrog | I used to use AdBlock Plus | 04:30 |
| Omnifrog | but I heard bad things about that in /. comments | 04:31 |
| minasota | you might want to take a second look at adblock plus.... | 04:31 |
| Omnifrog | I used adblock plus for a lond time | 04:32 |
| Omnifrog | long | 04:32 |
| Omnifrog | uBlock is a fork of adblock | 04:32 |
| Omnifrog | ok, there are 2 adblocks | 04:33 |
| Omnifrog | it's complicated | 04:34 |
| cyberanger | ./ had some valid points, but nothing a user couldn't adjust/configure | 04:34 |
| Omnifrog | but adblock plus started making deals with advertisers | 04:34 |
| Omnifrog | and uBlock forked off of that because of the deals | 04:35 |
| Omnifrog | adblock is different from adblock plus | 04:36 |
| Omnifrog | https://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/07/29/2152225/which-is-better-adblock-or-adblock-plus | 04:37 |
| cyberanger | Those deals are to be put on a whitelist I turned off | 04:38 |
| Omnifrog | but then later, adblock plus started doing the same shil | 04:38 |
| Omnifrog | shit | 04:38 |
| cyberanger | But they did turn the whitelist on by default | 04:39 |
| minasota | and the whitelist is populated by who? | 04:41 |
| * minasota dons his tin foil hat | 04:41 | |
| Omnifrog | the whitelist is populated by the user | 04:41 |
| Omnifrog | in all 3 pluggins | 04:42 |
| minasota | yeah, I guess my humor was lost in ircexlation | 04:42 |
| Omnifrog | lol | 04:42 |
| Omnifrog | I'm sorry. the correct answer was Trump | 04:43 |
| minasota | Omnifrog: not a trump fan :) | 04:59 |
| cyberanger | I thought the correct answer was Clinton | 05:08 |
| cyberanger | I mean we already made a huge tribute to him, granted for political correctness we called it the washington monument. | 05:08 |
| Omnifrog | <-- not a drumph fan either | 05:55 |
| Omnifrog | Jon Oliver FTW | 05:55 |
| Omnifrog | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ | 05:58 |
| Omnifrog | bed. me . now | 06:00 |
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