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Kilosmorning all and sundry04:41
paddatrapperMorning Kilos05:46
Kiloshi paddatrapper 06:04
Kilosai! power went, running on genny06:13
Xethronsuperfly!!!08:46
Kilos-power returned08:58
Kilos-hi Xethron 08:59
XethronHello Kilos dash08:59
XethronHow goes?09:04
Kilos-haha im ok ty and you Xethron 09:32
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
Kilospower cuts and tails09:33
Xethroneish09:34
LangjanHi Kilos see pm10:45
superflyXethron: hi10:47
XethronHow goes?10:49
superflyXethron: a bit sick at the moment, but getting better 10:50
superflyXethron: and your side? 10:51
Kiloshi superfly 10:56
Kiloseish superfly dont get sick now10:57
Kiloshi qwebirc65367 11:03
Kilosis that you carey?11:03
Kilosjust type in /nick nickname11:10
Kilosyour nickname11:10
LangjanHi Kilos 11:16
Xethronsuperfly: yeah, I'm ok. Feeling a bit fatigue11:21
pavlushkaahoy ZA!12:23
pavlushkahow many HDDs are supported to a normal home user machine with a linux system, for instance Ubuntu-mate?12:25
Kiloswhat do you mean pavlushka 12:35
Kilosthat should be decided by how many cables and connectors you have12:35
pavlushkaI've connected 3 HDDs to my machine, so far it only recognizes two.12:36
Kilosi have had 4 in my desktop12:36
pavlushkaKilos: 4 what?12:36
Kilosdrives12:36
Kilosis your third drive good?12:36
pavlushkaHDD and SSDs?12:36
Kiloshdd12:36
pavlushkaKilos: he he that is to find out :)12:36
Kilostry gparted 12:37
Kilosthat should see them all12:37
Kilosor gnome disk utility12:38
Kilosor 12:38
Kilosum12:38
Kilostestdisk12:38
pavlushkaKilos: ok, thanks and I will try it to another machine also.12:41
Kilosok lad12:41
superflyKilos: rather now than tomorrow 13:50
superflyKilos: but I'll be fine tomorrow 13:50
pavlushkasuperfly: So you are in Arizona :p14:21
superflypavlushka: no, I'm not.14:21
pavlushkasuperfly: So what's the new mailing address of your's?14:24
superflypavlushka: sorry, I don't hand that information out over the internet, it's a privacy thing.14:25
pavlushkasuperfly: you can at least give away some hints if possible :)14:29
superflypavlushka: I am currently still in South Africa14:30
pavlushkasuperfly: ha ha ha, ok, got it :)14:30
Kilosinetpro are you home yet17:27
nsnzerohi Kilos17:33
Kiloshi nsnzero 17:37
nsnzerohow you doing ?17:42
superflyo/ Kilos, nsnzero17:43
nsnzerohi superfly17:43
Kiloshi superfly 17:48
superfly^^ irritates me... follows me into all the channels I'm in17:55
superflynot cool17:55
Kilosthey think differently18:00
nsnzerowho ?18:02
MaNIset your channel listing to private ;)18:06
LangjanHi Kilos how are you feeling? 18:15
Kiloshi Langjan much better ty18:16
Kilosim glad that prob was solved18:17
Kiloswht broke now18:17
Kiloswhat18:17
paddatrappersuperfly: /ignore? 18:18
LangjanGlad you're feeling better18:24
superflypaddatrapper: I thought you were at a party 18:24
LangjanKilos, 18:24
Kilosty just tired now 18:24
Kilosstrange 18:24
Kiloswhat broke now i asked Langjan 18:24
LangjanHave a good night18:24
Kilosill be here till 9pm man18:24
Kiloswhat broke18:25
LangjanWe will look further tomorrow, screen still goes black after 20-30 mins18:25
Kilosthe strangest things happen to your ubuntu's18:25
Langjan getting zeitgeist daemon error report, dunno if theres a connection18:25
Langjanhttps://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why18:25
Kilosthats whats in place of screensavers18:25
Kilosoh18:26
Langjanmaybe start by removing zeitgeist18:26
Kilosldet me read18:26
Langjan16.04 has poor reputation with bugs18:28
Kilosthats why we waited so long to upgrade18:29
Kilosmy thunderbird on here cant open my browser if i click a link in emails18:29
Kilosbut to copy and paste it in a browser works18:30
nsnzerosince its a package just sudo apt-get remove zeitegist18:30
Kilosarent you scared to remove zeitgeist thing18:30
Kiloslong story there18:31
Langjandoes not look like its so important18:31
Langjanhi nsnzero thks18:31
nsnzerohi Langjan18:31
Langjanor via synaptic? 18:31
Langjanthere are 3 packages18:32
nsnzerocorrect Langjan 3 packages - use synaptic but removing the main package will remove the other 2 provided that nothing depends on them18:33
Kilosi wonder why they keep using apt-get and not apt18:33
Kilosyou can always reinstall it if something else doesnt work18:34
LangjanSo should I mark all three?18:34
Kiloskde doesnt use it at all18:35
Kilosthat guy sayd remove the main one because the lib file and the other are needed for other apps18:36
Kiloswhen you look online for stuff read the whole thing before applying their wisdom18:36
nsnzerokde uses balloo18:37
Kilosread some comments as well18:37
Langjanzeitgeist-daemon only brings up one package18:37
Langjanthere are quite a number more on zeitgeist only 18:38
Kilosjust remove the main package for starters18:38
Langjanbut crash report is zeitgeist daemon so will do Kilos 18:39
Kilosthat will be like taking the engine out your car18:39
Kilosyou can still smooch on the back seat18:39
Kiloswhat did the crash report say again?18:39
LangjanwhenI try to put it in here it disappears, is there a block on some symbols like /?18:40
Kilosyes / starts a command18:41
Kilosadd spaces first18:41
Langjanit said usr/bin18:41
Langjanzeitgeist18:41
Langjan-daemon18:41
Langjancrash18:41
Kilosok remove it and see what happens18:42
Langjanok done18:42
Kilosyou can always install it again18:42
Langjando you think that could be reason for black screen?18:42
Kilosi have no idea how all these things tie together18:43
Kilosblack screen meens reboot ?18:43
Langjanwell proof of the pudding18:43
Kilosor move mouse and it comes alive18:43
Kiloswhat do you have to do to get out of the black screen Langjan 18:44
Langjanno it does not, all that happens is mouse cursor runs around on black screen 18:44
LangjanI have to reboot18:44
Kiloslol18:44
Langjanso I do ctrl/alt/f118:44
Kilosisnt that because you removed the X stuff18:45
Langjanthen login and reboot18:45
Langjanwhat x stuff? 18:45
LangjanI re-installed the x stuff 18:45
Kilosyou said you gonna disable xsrver or xorg or x something18:45
Kilosai!18:46
Kiloswh ask then what x stuff18:46
Kilosai! ek sukkel18:46
Kilosoh you can try reinstall ubuntu-desktop18:47
LangjanAi ek ook, because you said I removed them18:47
Kilosthat might fix someones blunderrs18:47
LangjanI have but will do again18:47
Kilosremove the zeit thing18:47
LangjanI have18:47
Kilosthen lets see what crashes18:48
Kilosyou know18:48
Kilosfor an old man you grow up slowly18:48
Langjanlmga18:48
superflyBetween the two of you, it's a wonder you ever have working computers... 18:48
Kilosyou shoulda outgrown unity by now and gone kde18:48
nsnzeroLangjan: you can try out a different Desktop Environment (DE) like LXDE 18:48
Kiloshahaha18:48
Kilossuperfly we do it to keep the channel alive18:49
Langjanhi superfly youre right18:49
KilosLangjan is the black screen after leaving the pc alone for 30 mins18:50
Langjannsnzero, I was livid when unity came: thought it was evil. Then I tried it and now I'm in love18:50
Langjanyes Kilos 18:50
Kilosai! ai! ai! ai! ai!18:50
Kilosok so its then a setting of yours18:51
Langjanlike Kilos with kde18:51
Kiloslok in settings18:51
Langjanbut he is off the clock18:51
Kilospower manager and screensaver18:51
Kilostell them both never turn off screen or dim screen18:51
Langjanok18:52
Kilosunity has screensaver as an option hey18:52
Kilosand power thing18:52
nsnzeroLangjan: i tried it but i could never get the hang it - with the side launcher and the universal menu bar18:53
Kiloskde uss power thing to do it all18:53
LangjanI dont think its screensaver prob because I disabled it and prob still came up18:54
Kiloslook at both18:54
Kiloscheck carefully18:54
Kiloskee screen on or are you saving power 18:55
Kiloskeep18:55
LangjanOK I've done that, will keep tabs and see what happens 18:55
nsnzeroLangjan: i think your pc is going into sleep mode after 30 min - disable sleep in the power options18:55
Langjannsnzero, it was not in sleep mode, thats what is puzzling18:56
Kilosthose sleep modes and hibernate in unity have been a hassle forever18:57
Kilosglad i grew up to kde18:57
Kilosmake sure you save your settings Langjan 18:58
LangjanBut the old man (kilos) and I are in sleep mode now, will report back tomorrow18:58
Kiloslol18:59
Kilosill wait to hea what happens18:59
Kilos8 years and 2 months?18:59
Kilosis that right18:59
KilosLangjan ^^19:00
Kilosno wonder you tire me out , you still talk in old old language19:00
LangjanXscreensaver setting says "blank" after "x" minutes but I have learnt from experience that it actually means "activate"  - crazy 19:00
Kilosmake it many hours just in case19:01
LangjanKilos, ?19:01
Kilosthen tick never as well19:01
Kiloswhat?19:01
Langjanold old language?19:02
nsnzeroironically the crash reporter (apport) often crashes on my system - i remove it and any other package i dont use  19:02
Kilosyes man like old dutch or something19:02
KilosLangjan is 8 years and 2 months right19:03
Kilosthats the prob then, you are from a different generation19:03
Kiloshe fell asleep in front of the pc19:04
Kilossigh19:04
Kilosthese ballies19:04
nsnzerolol , he shutdown19:04
LangjanI think you have made up the 8 years and overtaken me in Oz Kilos 19:04
Kiloslol19:04
Kilosor screen went black19:04
Kilosnono ill be fixed soon19:05
Langjangood19:05
Kilosthey gonna cut open chest and put a teflon heart in19:05
Langjanbut why you need fixing?19:05
Kiloseinforced with titanium19:06
Kilosbecause i broke it19:06
LangjanStaalburger19:06
Kilosja19:06
LangjanThats why the fly said were lucky to have something thats working 19:06
Kilosi still got 5 years before 3 score and 10 is up19:06
Kiloshaha19:07
Kilosand i want 20 more now19:07
Langjangood19:07
Langjanpositive attitude helps19:07
Kiloswell i got a cute chick and a cheeky daughter need sorting out you know19:08
inetprogood mornings19:09
LangjanSo have I, and two cheeky daughters and shortly three cheeky granddaughters19:09
Langjanhi inetpro 19:09
nsnzeroinetpro: morning19:09
inetprooh hi Langjan19:10
inetproand nsnzero19:10
Langjanyou keeping well inetpro ? 19:10
inetprogood, good annd yourself oom?19:10
inetproand*19:10
Langjanvery wel thks just having to cope with Kilos 19:11
Kiloswelcome back inetpro 19:11
Langjancheeky young man19:11
inetprohaha, hi Kilos19:11
inetproLangjan: tough job that19:11
Langjanvery19:11
Langjanespecially since he's been with his ladies 19:12
Kilosinetpro we must chat tomorrow19:12
LangjanSo inetpro you moved and settled?19:13
Kilosabout the reverification thing19:13
Kiloshe was on holiday again19:13
Langjanoh ok19:13
Langjanwhere? 19:13
Kilosbut he tells no one19:13
Kilosgrrrr19:13
Kilosnatal most likely19:13
Kilosfamily visit'19:13
* inetpro moved?19:14
Kiloshahahaha19:14
inetpronot me19:14
KilosLangjan done confuse him19:14
Kilosdont19:14
Langjandid I have the wrong end of the stick, were you not going to move abroad? 19:14
Kilostime for me to sleep guys19:14
* inetpro just chilled out a bit19:15
Kilosno man thats fly19:15
LangjanSlaap lekker jongman19:15
Kilossee you all tomrrow19:15
Kilosbe good19:15
Langjanoh ok,sorry inetpro  19:15
inetprosometimes you need to disconnect from the virtual world19:15
Kilosfy flies in 2 days19:15
Langjanyoure so right19:15
Langjansjoe19:15
Langjanto the USA?19:16
Kilosja sad day for za19:16
nsnzeronight Kilos19:16
Langjanif I remember right19:16
Kilosok night guys19:16
Kilosyes usa19:16
Langjannight Kilos sleep well19:16
Kilosty you too old man19:16
Kiloshehe19:16
Kilosnight goosie19:17
Langjanyour mileage higher young man19:17
Kiloshahaha19:17
inetprogoeienag oom Kilos19:17
LangjanHys nie oom nie man inetpro hys jongman...19:17
Langjannet hoƫ myle 19:18
Langjankilos19:18
inetprohaha :-)19:18
Langjanlmga 19:18
Langjanek gaan ook nou die neukenaar los sodat ek kan sien of hy weer lol19:19
LangjanSo lekker aand julle manne 19:19
inetprolekker slaap oom Jan19:19
Langjandankie jy ook inetpro 19:19
nsnzerogoeienag Langjan19:20
Langjanslaap lekker nsnzero 19:20
nsnzeroi am also off - take care and pleasant dreams all19:21
superflyMaNI: you'll have to enlighten me on how to how you channel list, I could find anything online (mostly just beginner tutorials) 20:32
superfly*hide20:33
superflyAi, autocarrot 20:33

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