[04:41] <Kilos> morning all and sundry
[05:46] <paddatrapper> Morning Kilos
[06:04] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper 
[06:13] <Kilos> ai! power went, running on genny
[08:46] <Xethron> superfly!!!
[08:58] <Kilos-> power returned
[08:59] <Kilos-> hi Xethron 
[08:59] <Xethron> Hello Kilos dash
[09:04] <Xethron> How goes?
[09:32] <Kilos-> haha im ok ty and you Xethron 
[09:33] <Kilos> power cuts and tails
[09:34] <Xethron> eish
[10:45] <Langjan> Hi Kilos see pm
[10:47] <superfly> Xethron: hi
[10:49] <Xethron> How goes?
[10:50] <superfly> Xethron: a bit sick at the moment, but getting better 
[10:51] <superfly> Xethron: and your side? 
[10:56] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[10:57] <Kilos> eish superfly dont get sick now
[11:03] <Kilos> hi qwebirc65367 
[11:03] <Kilos> is that you carey?
[11:10] <Kilos> just type in /nick nickname
[11:10] <Kilos> your nickname
[11:16] <Langjan> Hi Kilos 
[11:21] <Xethron> superfly: yeah, I'm ok. Feeling a bit fatigue
[12:23] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[12:25] <pavlushka> how many HDDs are supported to a normal home user machine with a linux system, for instance Ubuntu-mate?
[12:35] <Kilos> what do you mean pavlushka 
[12:35] <Kilos> that should be decided by how many cables and connectors you have
[12:36] <pavlushka> I've connected 3 HDDs to my machine, so far it only recognizes two.
[12:36] <Kilos> i have had 4 in my desktop
[12:36] <pavlushka> Kilos: 4 what?
[12:36] <Kilos> drives
[12:36] <Kilos> is your third drive good?
[12:36] <pavlushka> HDD and SSDs?
[12:36] <Kilos> hdd
[12:36] <pavlushka> Kilos: he he that is to find out :)
[12:37] <Kilos> try gparted 
[12:37] <Kilos> that should see them all
[12:38] <Kilos> or gnome disk utility
[12:38] <Kilos> or 
[12:38] <Kilos> um
[12:38] <Kilos> testdisk
[12:41] <pavlushka> Kilos: ok, thanks and I will try it to another machine also.
[12:41] <Kilos> ok lad
[13:50] <superfly> Kilos: rather now than tomorrow 
[13:50] <superfly> Kilos: but I'll be fine tomorrow 
[14:21] <pavlushka> superfly: So you are in Arizona :p
[14:21] <superfly> pavlushka: no, I'm not.
[14:24] <pavlushka> superfly: So what's the new mailing address of your's?
[14:25] <superfly> pavlushka: sorry, I don't hand that information out over the internet, it's a privacy thing.
[14:29] <pavlushka> superfly: you can at least give away some hints if possible :)
[14:30] <superfly> pavlushka: I am currently still in South Africa
[14:30] <pavlushka> superfly: ha ha ha, ok, got it :)
[17:27] <Kilos> inetpro are you home yet
[17:33] <nsnzero> hi Kilos
[17:37] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[17:42] <nsnzero> how you doing ?
[17:43] <superfly> o/ Kilos, nsnzero
[17:43] <nsnzero> hi superfly
[17:48] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[17:55] <superfly> ^^ irritates me... follows me into all the channels I'm in
[17:55] <superfly> not cool
[18:00] <Kilos> they think differently
[18:02] <nsnzero> who ?
[18:06] <MaNI> set your channel listing to private ;)
[18:15] <Langjan> Hi Kilos how are you feeling? 
[18:16] <Kilos> hi Langjan much better ty
[18:17] <Kilos> im glad that prob was solved
[18:17] <Kilos> wht broke now
[18:17] <Kilos> what
[18:18] <paddatrapper> superfly: /ignore? 
[18:24] <Langjan> Glad you're feeling better
[18:24] <superfly> paddatrapper: I thought you were at a party 
[18:24] <Langjan> Kilos, 
[18:24] <Kilos> ty just tired now 
[18:24] <Kilos> strange 
[18:24] <Kilos> what broke now i asked Langjan 
[18:24] <Langjan> Have a good night
[18:24] <Kilos> ill be here till 9pm man
[18:25] <Kilos> what broke
[18:25] <Langjan> We will look further tomorrow, screen still goes black after 20-30 mins
[18:25] <Kilos> the strangest things happen to your ubuntu's
[18:25] <Langjan>  getting zeitgeist daemon error report, dunno if theres a connection
[18:25] <Langjan> https://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why
[18:25] <Kilos> thats whats in place of screensavers
[18:26] <Kilos> oh
[18:26] <Langjan> maybe start by removing zeitgeist
[18:26] <Kilos> ldet me read
[18:28] <Langjan> 16.04 has poor reputation with bugs
[18:29] <Kilos> thats why we waited so long to upgrade
[18:29] <Kilos> my thunderbird on here cant open my browser if i click a link in emails
[18:30] <Kilos> but to copy and paste it in a browser works
[18:30] <nsnzero> since its a package just sudo apt-get remove zeitegist
[18:30] <Kilos> arent you scared to remove zeitgeist thing
[18:31] <Kilos> long story there
[18:31] <Langjan> does not look like its so important
[18:31] <Langjan> hi nsnzero thks
[18:31] <nsnzero> hi Langjan
[18:31] <Langjan> or via synaptic? 
[18:32] <Langjan> there are 3 packages
[18:33] <nsnzero> correct Langjan 3 packages - use synaptic but removing the main package will remove the other 2 provided that nothing depends on them
[18:33] <Kilos> i wonder why they keep using apt-get and not apt
[18:34] <Kilos> you can always reinstall it if something else doesnt work
[18:34] <Langjan> So should I mark all three?
[18:35] <Kilos> kde doesnt use it at all
[18:36] <Kilos> that guy sayd remove the main one because the lib file and the other are needed for other apps
[18:36] <Kilos> when you look online for stuff read the whole thing before applying their wisdom
[18:37] <nsnzero> kde uses balloo
[18:37] <Kilos> read some comments as well
[18:37] <Langjan> zeitgeist-daemon only brings up one package
[18:38] <Langjan> there are quite a number more on zeitgeist only 
[18:38] <Kilos> just remove the main package for starters
[18:39] <Langjan> but crash report is zeitgeist daemon so will do Kilos 
[18:39] <Kilos> that will be like taking the engine out your car
[18:39] <Kilos> you can still smooch on the back seat
[18:39] <Kilos> what did the crash report say again?
[18:40] <Langjan> whenI try to put it in here it disappears, is there a block on some symbols like /?
[18:41] <Kilos> yes / starts a command
[18:41] <Kilos> add spaces first
[18:41] <Langjan> it said usr/bin
[18:41] <Langjan> zeitgeist
[18:41] <Langjan> -daemon
[18:41] <Langjan> crash
[18:42] <Kilos> ok remove it and see what happens
[18:42] <Langjan> ok done
[18:42] <Kilos> you can always install it again
[18:42] <Langjan> do you think that could be reason for black screen?
[18:43] <Kilos> i have no idea how all these things tie together
[18:43] <Kilos> black screen meens reboot ?
[18:43] <Langjan> well proof of the pudding
[18:43] <Kilos> or move mouse and it comes alive
[18:44] <Kilos> what do you have to do to get out of the black screen Langjan 
[18:44] <Langjan> no it does not, all that happens is mouse cursor runs around on black screen 
[18:44] <Langjan> I have to reboot
[18:44] <Kilos> lol
[18:44] <Langjan> so I do ctrl/alt/f1
[18:45] <Kilos> isnt that because you removed the X stuff
[18:45] <Langjan> then login and reboot
[18:45] <Langjan> what x stuff? 
[18:45] <Langjan> I re-installed the x stuff 
[18:45] <Kilos> you said you gonna disable xsrver or xorg or x something
[18:46] <Kilos> ai!
[18:46] <Kilos> wh ask then what x stuff
[18:46] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel
[18:47] <Kilos> oh you can try reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[18:47] <Langjan> Ai ek ook, because you said I removed them
[18:47] <Kilos> that might fix someones blunderrs
[18:47] <Langjan> I have but will do again
[18:47] <Kilos> remove the zeit thing
[18:47] <Langjan> I have
[18:48] <Kilos> then lets see what crashes
[18:48] <Kilos> you know
[18:48] <Kilos> for an old man you grow up slowly
[18:48] <Langjan> lmga
[18:48] <superfly> Between the two of you, it's a wonder you ever have working computers... 
[18:48] <Kilos> you shoulda outgrown unity by now and gone kde
[18:48] <nsnzero> Langjan: you can try out a different Desktop Environment (DE) like LXDE 
[18:48] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:49] <Kilos> superfly we do it to keep the channel alive
[18:49] <Langjan> hi superfly youre right
[18:50] <Kilos> Langjan is the black screen after leaving the pc alone for 30 mins
[18:50] <Langjan> nsnzero, I was livid when unity came: thought it was evil. Then I tried it and now I'm in love
[18:50] <Langjan> yes Kilos 
[18:50] <Kilos> ai! ai! ai! ai! ai!
[18:51] <Kilos> ok so its then a setting of yours
[18:51] <Langjan> like Kilos with kde
[18:51] <Kilos> lok in settings
[18:51] <Langjan> but he is off the clock
[18:51] <Kilos> power manager and screensaver
[18:51] <Kilos> tell them both never turn off screen or dim screen
[18:52] <Langjan> ok
[18:52] <Kilos> unity has screensaver as an option hey
[18:52] <Kilos> and power thing
[18:53] <nsnzero> Langjan: i tried it but i could never get the hang it - with the side launcher and the universal menu bar
[18:53] <Kilos> kde uss power thing to do it all
[18:54] <Langjan> I dont think its screensaver prob because I disabled it and prob still came up
[18:54] <Kilos> look at both
[18:54] <Kilos> check carefully
[18:55] <Kilos> kee screen on or are you saving power 
[18:55] <Kilos> keep
[18:55] <Langjan> OK I've done that, will keep tabs and see what happens 
[18:55] <nsnzero> Langjan: i think your pc is going into sleep mode after 30 min - disable sleep in the power options
[18:56] <Langjan> nsnzero, it was not in sleep mode, thats what is puzzling
[18:57] <Kilos> those sleep modes and hibernate in unity have been a hassle forever
[18:57] <Kilos> glad i grew up to kde
[18:58] <Kilos> make sure you save your settings Langjan 
[18:58] <Langjan> But the old man (kilos) and I are in sleep mode now, will report back tomorrow
[18:59] <Kilos> lol
[18:59] <Kilos> ill wait to hea what happens
[18:59] <Kilos> 8 years and 2 months?
[18:59] <Kilos> is that right
[19:00] <Kilos> Langjan ^^
[19:00] <Kilos> no wonder you tire me out , you still talk in old old language
[19:00] <Langjan> Xscreensaver setting says "blank" after "x" minutes but I have learnt from experience that it actually means "activate"  - crazy 
[19:01] <Kilos> make it many hours just in case
[19:01] <Langjan> Kilos, ?
[19:01] <Kilos> then tick never as well
[19:01] <Kilos> what?
[19:02] <Langjan> old old language?
[19:02] <nsnzero> ironically the crash reporter (apport) often crashes on my system - i remove it and any other package i dont use  
[19:02] <Kilos> yes man like old dutch or something
[19:03] <Kilos> Langjan is 8 years and 2 months right
[19:03] <Kilos> thats the prob then, you are from a different generation
[19:04] <Kilos> he fell asleep in front of the pc
[19:04] <Kilos> sigh
[19:04] <Kilos> these ballies
[19:04] <nsnzero> lol , he shutdown
[19:04] <Langjan> I think you have made up the 8 years and overtaken me in Oz Kilos 
[19:04] <Kilos> lol
[19:04] <Kilos> or screen went black
[19:05] <Kilos> nono ill be fixed soon
[19:05] <Langjan> good
[19:05] <Kilos> they gonna cut open chest and put a teflon heart in
[19:05] <Langjan> but why you need fixing?
[19:06] <Kilos> einforced with titanium
[19:06] <Kilos> because i broke it
[19:06] <Langjan> Staalburger
[19:06] <Kilos> ja
[19:06] <Langjan> Thats why the fly said were lucky to have something thats working 
[19:06] <Kilos> i still got 5 years before 3 score and 10 is up
[19:07] <Kilos> haha
[19:07] <Kilos> and i want 20 more now
[19:07] <Langjan> good
[19:07] <Langjan> positive attitude helps
[19:08] <Kilos> well i got a cute chick and a cheeky daughter need sorting out you know
[19:09] <inetpro> good mornings
[19:09] <Langjan> So have I, and two cheeky daughters and shortly three cheeky granddaughters
[19:09] <Langjan> hi inetpro 
[19:09] <nsnzero> inetpro: morning
[19:10] <inetpro> oh hi Langjan
[19:10] <inetpro> and nsnzero
[19:10] <Langjan> you keeping well inetpro ? 
[19:10] <inetpro> good, good annd yourself oom?
[19:10] <inetpro> and*
[19:11] <Langjan> very wel thks just having to cope with Kilos 
[19:11] <Kilos> welcome back inetpro 
[19:11] <Langjan> cheeky young man
[19:11] <inetpro> haha, hi Kilos
[19:11] <inetpro> Langjan: tough job that
[19:11] <Langjan> very
[19:12] <Langjan> especially since he's been with his ladies 
[19:12] <Kilos> inetpro we must chat tomorrow
[19:13] <Langjan> So inetpro you moved and settled?
[19:13] <Kilos> about the reverification thing
[19:13] <Kilos> he was on holiday again
[19:13] <Langjan> oh ok
[19:13] <Langjan> where? 
[19:13] <Kilos> but he tells no one
[19:13] <Kilos> grrrr
[19:13] <Kilos> natal most likely
[19:13] <Kilos> family visit'
[19:14]  * inetpro moved?
[19:14] <Kilos> hahahaha
[19:14] <inetpro> not me
[19:14] <Kilos> Langjan done confuse him
[19:14] <Kilos> dont
[19:14] <Langjan> did I have the wrong end of the stick, were you not going to move abroad? 
[19:14] <Kilos> time for me to sleep guys
[19:15]  * inetpro just chilled out a bit
[19:15] <Kilos> no man thats fly
[19:15] <Langjan> Slaap lekker jongman
[19:15] <Kilos> see you all tomrrow
[19:15] <Kilos> be good
[19:15] <Langjan> oh ok,sorry inetpro  
[19:15] <inetpro> sometimes you need to disconnect from the virtual world
[19:15] <Kilos> fy flies in 2 days
[19:15] <Langjan> youre so right
[19:15] <Langjan> sjoe
[19:16] <Langjan> to the USA?
[19:16] <Kilos> ja sad day for za
[19:16] <nsnzero> night Kilos
[19:16] <Langjan> if I remember right
[19:16] <Kilos> ok night guys
[19:16] <Kilos> yes usa
[19:16] <Langjan> night Kilos sleep well
[19:16] <Kilos> ty you too old man
[19:16] <Kilos> hehe
[19:17] <Kilos> night goosie
[19:17] <Langjan> your mileage higher young man
[19:17] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:17] <inetpro> goeienag oom Kilos
[19:17] <Langjan> Hys nie oom nie man inetpro hys jongman...
[19:18] <Langjan> net hoë myle 
[19:18] <Langjan> kilos
[19:18] <inetpro> haha :-)
[19:18] <Langjan> lmga 
[19:19] <Langjan> ek gaan ook nou die neukenaar los sodat ek kan sien of hy weer lol
[19:19] <Langjan> So lekker aand julle manne 
[19:19] <inetpro> lekker slaap oom Jan
[19:19] <Langjan> dankie jy ook inetpro 
[19:20] <nsnzero> goeienag Langjan
[19:20] <Langjan> slaap lekker nsnzero 
[19:21] <nsnzero> i am also off - take care and pleasant dreams all
[20:32] <superfly> MaNI: you'll have to enlighten me on how to how you channel list, I could find anything online (mostly just beginner tutorials) 
[20:33] <superfly> *hide
[20:33] <superfly> Ai, autocarrot