[04:41] morning all and sundry [05:46] Morning Kilos [06:04] hi paddatrapper [06:13] ai! power went, running on genny [08:46] superfly!!! [08:58] power returned [08:59] hi Xethron [08:59] Hello Kilos dash [09:04] How goes? [09:32] haha im ok ty and you Xethron === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [09:33] power cuts and tails [09:34] eish [10:45] Hi Kilos see pm [10:47] Xethron: hi [10:49] How goes? [10:50] Xethron: a bit sick at the moment, but getting better [10:51] Xethron: and your side? [10:56] hi superfly [10:57] eish superfly dont get sick now [11:03] hi qwebirc65367 [11:03] is that you carey? [11:10] just type in /nick nickname [11:10] your nickname [11:16] Hi Kilos [11:21] superfly: yeah, I'm ok. Feeling a bit fatigue [12:23] ahoy ZA! [12:25] how many HDDs are supported to a normal home user machine with a linux system, for instance Ubuntu-mate? [12:35] what do you mean pavlushka [12:35] that should be decided by how many cables and connectors you have [12:36] I've connected 3 HDDs to my machine, so far it only recognizes two. [12:36] i have had 4 in my desktop [12:36] Kilos: 4 what? [12:36] drives [12:36] is your third drive good? [12:36] HDD and SSDs? [12:36] hdd [12:36] Kilos: he he that is to find out :) [12:37] try gparted [12:37] that should see them all [12:38] or gnome disk utility [12:38] or [12:38] um [12:38] testdisk [12:41] Kilos: ok, thanks and I will try it to another machine also. [12:41] ok lad [13:50] Kilos: rather now than tomorrow [13:50] Kilos: but I'll be fine tomorrow [14:21] superfly: So you are in Arizona :p [14:21] pavlushka: no, I'm not. [14:24] superfly: So what's the new mailing address of your's? [14:25] pavlushka: sorry, I don't hand that information out over the internet, it's a privacy thing. [14:29] superfly: you can at least give away some hints if possible :) [14:30] pavlushka: I am currently still in South Africa [14:30] superfly: ha ha ha, ok, got it :) [17:27] inetpro are you home yet [17:33] hi Kilos [17:37] hi nsnzero [17:42] how you doing ? [17:43] o/ Kilos, nsnzero [17:43] hi superfly [17:48] hi superfly [17:55] ^^ irritates me... follows me into all the channels I'm in [17:55] not cool [18:00] they think differently [18:02] who ? [18:06] set your channel listing to private ;) [18:15] Hi Kilos how are you feeling? [18:16] hi Langjan much better ty [18:17] im glad that prob was solved [18:17] wht broke now [18:17] what [18:18] superfly: /ignore? [18:24] Glad you're feeling better [18:24] paddatrapper: I thought you were at a party [18:24] Kilos, [18:24] ty just tired now [18:24] strange [18:24] what broke now i asked Langjan [18:24] Have a good night [18:24] ill be here till 9pm man [18:25] what broke [18:25] We will look further tomorrow, screen still goes black after 20-30 mins [18:25] the strangest things happen to your ubuntu's [18:25] getting zeitgeist daemon error report, dunno if theres a connection [18:25] https://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why [18:25] thats whats in place of screensavers [18:26] oh [18:26] maybe start by removing zeitgeist [18:26] ldet me read [18:28] 16.04 has poor reputation with bugs [18:29] thats why we waited so long to upgrade [18:29] my thunderbird on here cant open my browser if i click a link in emails [18:30] but to copy and paste it in a browser works [18:30] since its a package just sudo apt-get remove zeitegist [18:30] arent you scared to remove zeitgeist thing [18:31] long story there [18:31] does not look like its so important [18:31] hi nsnzero thks [18:31] hi Langjan [18:31] or via synaptic? [18:32] there are 3 packages [18:33] correct Langjan 3 packages - use synaptic but removing the main package will remove the other 2 provided that nothing depends on them [18:33] i wonder why they keep using apt-get and not apt [18:34] you can always reinstall it if something else doesnt work [18:34] So should I mark all three? [18:35] kde doesnt use it at all [18:36] that guy sayd remove the main one because the lib file and the other are needed for other apps [18:36] when you look online for stuff read the whole thing before applying their wisdom [18:37] kde uses balloo [18:37] read some comments as well [18:37] zeitgeist-daemon only brings up one package [18:38] there are quite a number more on zeitgeist only [18:38] just remove the main package for starters [18:39] but crash report is zeitgeist daemon so will do Kilos [18:39] that will be like taking the engine out your car [18:39] you can still smooch on the back seat [18:39] what did the crash report say again? [18:40] whenI try to put it in here it disappears, is there a block on some symbols like /? [18:41] yes / starts a command [18:41] add spaces first [18:41] it said usr/bin [18:41] zeitgeist [18:41] -daemon [18:41] crash [18:42] ok remove it and see what happens [18:42] ok done [18:42] you can always install it again [18:42] do you think that could be reason for black screen? [18:43] i have no idea how all these things tie together [18:43] black screen meens reboot ? [18:43] well proof of the pudding [18:43] or move mouse and it comes alive [18:44] what do you have to do to get out of the black screen Langjan [18:44] no it does not, all that happens is mouse cursor runs around on black screen [18:44] I have to reboot [18:44] lol [18:44] so I do ctrl/alt/f1 [18:45] isnt that because you removed the X stuff [18:45] then login and reboot [18:45] what x stuff? [18:45] I re-installed the x stuff [18:45] you said you gonna disable xsrver or xorg or x something [18:46] ai! [18:46] wh ask then what x stuff [18:46] ai! ek sukkel [18:47] oh you can try reinstall ubuntu-desktop [18:47] Ai ek ook, because you said I removed them [18:47] that might fix someones blunderrs [18:47] I have but will do again [18:47] remove the zeit thing [18:47] I have [18:48] then lets see what crashes [18:48] you know [18:48] for an old man you grow up slowly [18:48] lmga [18:48] Between the two of you, it's a wonder you ever have working computers... [18:48] you shoulda outgrown unity by now and gone kde [18:48] Langjan: you can try out a different Desktop Environment (DE) like LXDE [18:48] hahaha [18:49] superfly we do it to keep the channel alive [18:49] hi superfly youre right [18:50] Langjan is the black screen after leaving the pc alone for 30 mins [18:50] nsnzero, I was livid when unity came: thought it was evil. Then I tried it and now I'm in love [18:50] yes Kilos [18:50] ai! ai! ai! ai! ai! [18:51] ok so its then a setting of yours [18:51] like Kilos with kde [18:51] lok in settings [18:51] but he is off the clock [18:51] power manager and screensaver [18:51] tell them both never turn off screen or dim screen [18:52] ok [18:52] unity has screensaver as an option hey [18:52] and power thing [18:53] Langjan: i tried it but i could never get the hang it - with the side launcher and the universal menu bar [18:53] kde uss power thing to do it all [18:54] I dont think its screensaver prob because I disabled it and prob still came up [18:54] look at both [18:54] check carefully [18:55] kee screen on or are you saving power [18:55] keep [18:55] OK I've done that, will keep tabs and see what happens [18:55] Langjan: i think your pc is going into sleep mode after 30 min - disable sleep in the power options [18:56] nsnzero, it was not in sleep mode, thats what is puzzling [18:57] those sleep modes and hibernate in unity have been a hassle forever [18:57] glad i grew up to kde [18:58] make sure you save your settings Langjan [18:58] But the old man (kilos) and I are in sleep mode now, will report back tomorrow [18:59] lol [18:59] ill wait to hea what happens [18:59] 8 years and 2 months? [18:59] is that right [19:00] Langjan ^^ [19:00] no wonder you tire me out , you still talk in old old language [19:00] Xscreensaver setting says "blank" after "x" minutes but I have learnt from experience that it actually means "activate" - crazy [19:01] make it many hours just in case [19:01] Kilos, ? [19:01] then tick never as well [19:01] what? [19:02] old old language? [19:02] ironically the crash reporter (apport) often crashes on my system - i remove it and any other package i dont use [19:02] yes man like old dutch or something [19:03] Langjan is 8 years and 2 months right [19:03] thats the prob then, you are from a different generation [19:04] he fell asleep in front of the pc [19:04] sigh [19:04] these ballies [19:04] lol , he shutdown [19:04] I think you have made up the 8 years and overtaken me in Oz Kilos [19:04] lol [19:04] or screen went black [19:05] nono ill be fixed soon [19:05] good [19:05] they gonna cut open chest and put a teflon heart in [19:05] but why you need fixing? [19:06] einforced with titanium [19:06] because i broke it [19:06] Staalburger [19:06] ja [19:06] Thats why the fly said were lucky to have something thats working [19:06] i still got 5 years before 3 score and 10 is up [19:07] haha [19:07] and i want 20 more now [19:07] good [19:07] positive attitude helps [19:08] well i got a cute chick and a cheeky daughter need sorting out you know [19:09] good mornings [19:09] So have I, and two cheeky daughters and shortly three cheeky granddaughters [19:09] hi inetpro [19:09] inetpro: morning [19:10] oh hi Langjan [19:10] and nsnzero [19:10] you keeping well inetpro ? [19:10] good, good annd yourself oom? [19:10] and* [19:11] very wel thks just having to cope with Kilos [19:11] welcome back inetpro [19:11] cheeky young man [19:11] haha, hi Kilos [19:11] Langjan: tough job that [19:11] very [19:12] especially since he's been with his ladies [19:12] inetpro we must chat tomorrow [19:13] So inetpro you moved and settled? [19:13] about the reverification thing [19:13] he was on holiday again [19:13] oh ok [19:13] where? [19:13] but he tells no one [19:13] grrrr [19:13] natal most likely [19:13] family visit' [19:14] * inetpro moved? [19:14] hahahaha [19:14] not me [19:14] Langjan done confuse him [19:14] dont [19:14] did I have the wrong end of the stick, were you not going to move abroad? [19:14] time for me to sleep guys [19:15] * inetpro just chilled out a bit [19:15] no man thats fly [19:15] Slaap lekker jongman [19:15] see you all tomrrow [19:15] be good [19:15] oh ok,sorry inetpro [19:15] sometimes you need to disconnect from the virtual world [19:15] fy flies in 2 days [19:15] youre so right [19:15] sjoe [19:16] to the USA? [19:16] ja sad day for za [19:16] night Kilos [19:16] if I remember right [19:16] ok night guys [19:16] yes usa [19:16] night Kilos sleep well [19:16] ty you too old man [19:16] hehe [19:17] night goosie [19:17] your mileage higher young man [19:17] hahaha [19:17] goeienag oom Kilos [19:17] Hys nie oom nie man inetpro hys jongman... [19:18] net hoë myle [19:18] kilos [19:18] haha :-) [19:18] lmga [19:19] ek gaan ook nou die neukenaar los sodat ek kan sien of hy weer lol [19:19] So lekker aand julle manne [19:19] lekker slaap oom Jan [19:19] dankie jy ook inetpro [19:20] goeienag Langjan [19:20] slaap lekker nsnzero [19:21] i am also off - take care and pleasant dreams all [20:32] MaNI: you'll have to enlighten me on how to how you channel list, I could find anything online (mostly just beginner tutorials) [20:33] *hide [20:33] Ai, autocarrot