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DivingAppleI am in need of some help with repairing GRUB. I have encrypted my drive with SDA5 encryption and when GRUB boots normally and shows the password entry screen, I can't type. I can boot successfully via recovery mode00:03
DivingAppleI've tried using BootRepair and it was unsuccessful00:03
mixer93kghey i need some help, whe i try ubuntu livecd sound works but when i installed it, doesnt work00:04
tomreyn!sound | mixer93kg00:05
ubottumixer93kg: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.00:05
tomreynDivingApple: what is "SDA5 encryption"?00:06
CoderEurope!PLAYERS00:06
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs00:06
tomreynDivingApple: maybe you're referring to sda5, the fifth partition on your first hard disk.00:07
tomreynDivingApple: which exact ubuntu version (should contian two dots) did you install?00:08
mixer93kg16.0400:08
DivingAppleI have installed 16.04 right now00:09
tomreyn16.04.0 or 16.04.1 ?00:09
DivingAppleI think the encryption is LUKS but I'm not certain. Its the full-disk encryption option they give you at initial installation00:09
mixer93kgi dont get it how it works on livecd but not when installed00:09
tomreynDivingApple: the exact version number does not matter in case you fully upgraded it after installation.00:09
tomreynmixer93kg: did you try the suggestions ubottu provided?00:10
stan_man_canIs it possible to make gmail my default mail client?00:10
DivingApplehow can I easily check my version number?00:10
tomreynDivingApple: in a terminal, type: lsb_release -d00:11
DivingAppletyping in lsb release -d finds no command00:12
tomreyntype in "terminal", then run it. then in that type: lsb_release -d00:12
\9DivingApple: it's lsb_release with an underscore00:12
DivingApplenvm. I got it 16.04.100:12
yumboxif i want to have an Ubuntu 14.04 installation, can I upgrade packages?00:17
SchrodingersScat!14.0400:18
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ - CHECK FOR POINT RELEASES at http://releases.ubuntu.com - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes00:18
DivingAppleSo I'm running 16.04.1 and when during the install wizard I encrypted my entire drive. Normally after I select Ubuntu in GRUB, it pulls up an 'enter password' screen, and I type in a password. However, recently I have been unable to type when that screen pulls up and am required to boot into recovery mode and type the password in there00:18
yumboxSchrodingersScat: that doesn't answer my question.00:19
DivingAppleSorry I was asking my own question, not trying to answer yours00:19
SchrodingersScatyumbox: it mentions support for 5 years, expect that to be security updates, etc. if you need !latest then see that.00:19
DivingApplewhoops nvm00:19
OerHeksyumbox, yes, it is a supported LTS, so servers are up00:20
yumboxOerHeks: hmm, okay.00:21
Sweepyofacedoesn't mean you shouldn't upgrade though00:21
yumboxafter upgrading, I can't login anymore.00:21
SweepyofaceThat tells us nothing00:22
yumboxthe login manager sort of works, but after entering my password, the screen flashes, and im back at the login manager again.00:22
yumboxdmesg shows compiz having a segfault.00:24
yumboxafter removing compiz, i can login, but i can get a completely blue screen except for the mouse cursor.00:24
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xar-.xyz is a tld now eh?00:28
xar-noice00:28
yumboxhas been for a while00:28
xar-shrug, I live under a rock00:29
xar-glad to see people are using it wisely though00:30
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yumboxpretty funny that the first time i try ubuntu in years, its a piece of shit00:31
bazhangyumbox, no cursing here00:31
xar-that's erm, productive00:31
nicomachusxar-: this is a family friendly channel.00:32
xar-huh?00:32
nicomachussorry, meant to direct that at yumbox00:32
yumboxpiece of doodoo?00:33
bazhangyumbox, please stay on topic here00:34
bazhangchit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic yumbox00:34
xar-interestingly, I just decided to give the latest ubuntu a whirl in vbox, shutdown post-install, it's hung (in vbox)00:35
xar-no valid rapl domains found in package 000:35
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xar-10/10 on the error message quality, would read again :D00:36
xar-ok, the bar on the left side of the screen (fresh install), there a way to move that thing00:38
bazhangxar-, is this unity00:38
yumboxhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/435623/problem-after-update-blue-screen-with-only-the-mouse-cursor#43605400:38
xar-whatever the default install provides, I have no idea00:38
yumboxthis brings me one step closer00:38
yumboxbut still no desktop00:38
yumboxguest login works now, but user login doesnt.00:40
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xar-also is there a way to prevent maximizing a window being absorbed into the primary task bar, that doesn't sit well with me00:42
SweepyofaceCron keeps giving me /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting ")")00:42
bekksSweepyoface: So show us your crontab entry.00:43
Sweepyofacehttps://hasteb.in/faliduqosi.pl00:43
xar-there's an amazon icon... what's that doing there? anyone know what the package is called that controls that?00:44
xar-that needs to go too00:44
nicomachusxar-: System Settings --> Privacy00:44
nicomachusxar-: what version of ubuntu?00:44
xar-160400:45
gostaif I want a dns. Where can i get a domain name for free ?`00:45
yumboxduckdns or nsupdate00:45
SweepyofaceYou can get domains for like $1/yr00:45
nicomachusxar-: ok. Amazon scopes (and any others) should be disabled by default.00:45
xar-why is it even there though... lol00:46
nicomachusxar-: you can also completely remove them with package names unity-scope-* and unity-lens-*00:46
gostaok.. i´ll check it out00:46
gostaty00:46
yumboxxar-: money grab gone wrong00:46
Sweepyofacebekks, looks right to me, works when I do it in the terminal https://hasteb.in/raw/faliduqosi00:46
nicomachusyumbox: no.00:46
nicomachus!fud | yumbox00:46
ubottuyumbox: Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt00:46
bazhangyumbox, please stop with the chit chat here00:46
yumboxsomeone asks a question, i answered it.00:47
yumboxthat's not chitchat.00:47
bazhangthats enough yumbox00:47
bekksSweepyoface: BEsides the fact that your crontab shell doesn not have any environment variables set, not it is using bash. Create a bash shell script, use full path names, and run your script in the cron tab.00:47
* xar- rubs yumbox, I appweciate joo00:47
SweepyofaceWell I can't really use echo like that in a script00:48
bekksSweepyoface: Why not?00:48
SweepyofaceIt just prints to stdout00:48
Sweepyofacethe whole line00:48
bazhangthis is support only xar-00:48
bekksSweepyoface: Then fix your line.00:48
bekksSweepyoface: Aint a big deal.00:49
Sweepyofacehold on00:49
xar-what happened, I got disconnected, I have joins, parts, quits, all suppressed00:49
bekksSweepyoface: And use printf instead of echo.00:49
SweepyofaceI want the newline00:49
bekksSweepyoface: You can have a newline using printf as well.00:50
SweepyofaceIt'll do the same thing as echo though00:50
Sweepyofaceoh wait a minute00:51
yumboxis there a shortcut to logout?00:51
Sweepyofacenvm, got it working00:51
Sweepyofacethanks00:51
bekksSweepyoface: yw00:51
xar-alright, so anyways, it would seem unity is incompatible with my goals, how do I remove unity and replace it with something more... traditional?00:52
bazhanginstall gnome-shell xar-00:52
xar-alright, and how do I do that00:52
bazhangvia apt xar-00:52
joegiampaoliHello, trying to install nvidia legacy 304.132 from additional drivers. Card is integrated GeForce 6100 nForce 405, glxinfo & glxgears keep spitting the following error: "X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)"00:53
xanguaWell gnome shell is no more "traditional"than unity00:53
xar-and... it's broken lol00:54
joegiampaoliAlso programs like blender that require gl freeze...00:55
srulihi, i just upgraded to a new amd radeon graphics card with 3 displays, (ubuntu 14.04) it does not recognise that i have 3 displays, how can i check if i have the open source drivers installed?01:04
yumboxokay, finally ive fixed it.01:05
yumboxive you install Ubuntu 14.04 and upgrade all packages and unity stops working, this is what helped me: https://askubuntu.com/questions/476100/unity-and-the-tray-are-not-displayed-after-login01:05
FritigernI have a bit of an issue. I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 16.10, but now most of my ports seem to be blocked. Before I did the reinstall, this was not the case. I have a couple of port ranges which I wish to open for a few different services that I am running. For example, I would like to SSH to my machine on port 22, and have a game server running on port 31294 (or there abouts)01:07
nchambersFritigern, are they available over localhost?01:07
FritigernTo be clear, this is NOT a router issue, my router did not see a config change in a very long time. To make certain it's not the router I went back and double checked and the router's config hasn't changed.01:08
FritigernYes they are. Just not from the internet, like they were before my reinstall01:08
nchamberscould be that your ISP started blocking those ports01:08
nchambersdo you have ipfw, pf, or ufw installed?01:09
FritigernI used http://mxtoolbox.com to do a quick portscan, and only port 80 seems to be working01:09
Fritigern*connectable01:09
FritigernII only have the default stuffs, so UFW which is disabled by default01:10
nchambersright, so you either have a firewall or your ISP is blocking those ports01:10
FritigernBut to make sure i did sudo ufw disable, but that changed nothing01:10
nchambersthen its probably your ISP01:10
FritigernHow can I tell?01:11
nchambersask them01:11
SonikkuAmericaHello everyone. Friendly Ubuntu core channel op speaking. Just a quick reminder to all of you that we're a channel specifically for Ubuntu support, not discussion or chitchat. #ubuntu-discuss is for on-topic discussion about Ubuntu and its many features; #ubuntu-offtopic is for chit-chat. For more, see the !ot factoid. Thanks!01:14
imhs01:16
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Guest81511how do i instal ubintu01:17
Guest81511ubuntu01:18
SonikkuAmericaGuest81511: Do you have a Live image?01:18
SonikkuAmerica!live01:18
ubottuThe Ubuntu Desktop ISO is a "Live" image, which can be run without altering existing files on your hard drive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.01:18
sruliubuntu 14.04 when i boot i have no usb (no keyboard), i always need to select my 3.16 kernel, how can i get usb to work on newer kernel?01:19
deadmundIs it possible to run a bash script when I turn my monitor (an HDTV connected via HDMI) on / off?01:19
yumboxwhat can I do to disable all remote services on a 14.04 ubuntu install?01:19
deadmundyumbox: "remote" service?01:20
deadmundyumbox: What are you referring to?01:20
Disaster_Areaanyone know of a simple and sensible way to have my wallpaper change every minute or whatever etc. like a slideshow?01:20
yumboxdeadmund: amazon, ebay, error report sending. basically any remote connection that i havent initiated manually.01:20
deadmundDisaster_Area: Have you tried this?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/134/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow01:21
deadmundyumbox: Well, there is no one single command.  One thing you could do is turn off your Internet connection.  But, I'm guessing that's a dealbreaker.01:21
Disaster_AreaI'll have a look thx01:21
yumboxdeadmund: yeah, haha.01:21
deadmundyumbox: You can run netstat -tupn to see a list of all current network connections.01:22
deadmundyumbox: Then you can look at tcpdump -X -i eth0 (assuming ethernet connection) to get more info01:22
deadmundDisaster_Area: sure01:23
deadmundIs it possible to run a bash script when I turn my monitor (an HDTV connected via HDMI) on / off?01:23
netcrashhello, I have ubuntu always installing 3.13 linux initrd on my system don't understand why since this was long removed , any ideas?01:23
yumboxdeadmund: that's kinda impractical. i already remove the ebay unity things. and ive disabled everything in the system settings under privacy.01:23
yumboxis that enough?01:24
Sweepyofacedeadmund, your computer doesn't know when you turn it on/off01:24
Sweepyofaceonly if you unplug the HDMI cable01:24
sruliubuntu 14.04 when i boot i have no usb (no keyboard), i always need to select my 3.16 kernel, how can i get usb to work on newer kernel?01:24
deadmundyumbox: Are you concerned about network connections in general or privacy specifically?01:25
deadmundSweepyoface: shiiiit.  K thx01:25
yumboxdeadmund: privacy.01:25
deadmundyumbox: https://fixubuntu.com/01:26
Disaster_Areadeadmund, that was great found a nice way to to do it with shotwell01:26
Disaster_Areaty01:26
deadmundDisaster_Area: No problem.  Glad you got it working!01:26
xar-fyi, removing unity and installing gnome-shell didn't work, it just drops me to a shell upon restart01:26
yumboxdeadmund: pretty ridiculous that you need a third party tool to not have your data send to canonical. but thanks for the link!01:27
Sweepyofacei think you're overly paranoid01:27
deadmundyumbox: The third party tool is just an easy way to turn it off.  But yeah, the dash search stuff is controversial to say the least01:28
xar-it kinda sounds like O&O ShutUp 10, to disable all the microsoft telemtry stuff, nice link too deadmund01:29
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deadmundxar-: 0&0 ??01:30
xar-www.oo-software.com01:30
xar-(don't work for them, they make some nice apps tho)01:31
xar-I was simply comparing the tooling you mentioned to it, since it jogged my memory01:31
Sweepyoface> not FOSS01:32
xar-omg there's an ubuntu mate fork01:33
xar-holy cheeseballs batman, why didn't you guys say so01:33
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic trusty | netcrash01:33
ubottunetcrash: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.105.113 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB01:33
xar-here I am trying to shoehorn unity and someone's already done the work with packaging MATE, sigh01:34
srulii need some help with amd graphics card, it doesnt recognise that i have 3 displays, how do i see if the kernel identifies the card correctly, (want to try opensource first) ubuntu 14.0401:35
imhs我尝试着安装了oh_my_zsh,按说它是和bash兼容的,但是在运行一个shell脚本的时候,抛出了command not found: complete,有什么解决办法吗01:47
bazhangimhs, here is english01:49
bazhang!cn | imhs01:49
ubottuimhs: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw01:49
zzero1question why the kill in this http://pastebin.com/NE39ChgN commands gives me kill: you need to specify whom to kill ?01:53
nicomachusxar-: honestly don't know how someone could not know about Ubuntu MATE, but ok.01:53
nicomachusa quick google search would have gotten you to the project page.01:54
srulii need some help with amd graphics card, it doesnt recognise that i have 3 displays, how do i see if the kernel identifies the card correctly, (want to try opensource first) ubuntu 14.0401:57
allsporkquestion: A package seems to be intermittently removed after reboot. Any idea? It's vim (compiled from source) that is installed with check install. I reinstalle the package locally and it works, but it should stay installed.01:58
Amm0nsruli, lspci -nnk |grep VGA -A301:59
sruliAmm0n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23645804/02:00
Amm0nsruli, if you use this command without piping it through a pastebin gives more output?02:01
sruliAmm0n: did not pipe it, i copied and pasted it02:02
Amm0nsruli, oh wait a sec pls02:02
sruliAmm0n: before it showed less, but i tried to install the propitiatory drivers (failed unmet dependencies) and now it shows a secnd line02:03
Amm0nsruli, try lshw -c video02:06
sruliAmm0n: PCI (sysfs), thats all i get02:08
Amm0nsruli, Ubuntu version?02:08
sruliAmm0n: sorry, after a few secs i got more http://paste.ubuntu.com/23645844/ v 14.0402:08
Amm0nsruli, mach mal ein "sudo lspci -v -s 02:00.0"02:15
Amm0nsruli, oh sry in english: pls do the command above :P02:16
netcrashhello, I have ubuntu always installing 3.13 linux initrd on my system don't understand why since this was long removed , any ideas?02:16
sruliAmm0n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23645870/ - i understand a little german ;-)02:17
Amm0nsruli, it's a RX 460 right?02:19
sruliAmm0n: yes02:19
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imhsRookie question: Install the driver and configuration can use multiple monitors, right?02:21
Amm0nsruli, you are at this machine at the moment and have X working?02:21
sruliyes02:22
sruliAmm0n: ^02:22
localhost_...02:23
gostaHi. Im having problems with my crontab, cant make changes in it. even if im su..02:25
Amm0nsruli, only one Display is getting recognized?02:25
Amm0nimhs, yes you can, in many cases without installing anything02:26
sruliAmm0n: yes, 2 are on in mirror mode, 3rd is off, in display settings it only see one02:26
sruliAmm0n: thansk for helping, really desperate here02:27
sruliAmm0n: going for a reboot, 2-3 minutes02:29
imhssruli, Did you try the xrandr command?02:30
sruliAmm0n: i'm back, any ideas how i can sort my graphics issue?02:41
AntovsnДа02:42
AntovsnКуку02:42
Amm0nsruli, i think your problem is that proper amdgpu support for your card comes with 16.0402:42
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sruliAmm0n: what about opensource?02:43
timer1Hi, I think I broke my linux totaly, may sombody can help me? My problem is about libs, package dependencies and a broken apt i think02:44
Amm0nsruli, let's see what "xrand" tells us02:44
Ben64timer1: describe your situation in detail to find out02:45
sruliAmm0n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23645949/02:45
timer1I started an upgrade of my linux and something went wrong i don't know why. At the moment I have an conflict of the libstdc++6, some package need the one of ubuntu 14.04 others of 16.0402:46
Amm0nsruli, not so much :/02:47
timer1Further more I, purged the  libstdc++6:amd64 and now apt only answer with "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:48
timer1wasn't a good idea, i know02:49
sruliAmm0n: i am not ready to upgrade to 16.03, too much of my config will break with systemd, do i give up on this card?02:50
imhshttp://support.amd.com/zh-cn/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+6402:50
Amm0nsruli, do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf or any VGA related .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ?02:50
sruliAmm0n: no, dont even have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ dir02:52
sruliAmm0n: i dont see any .conf files in /etc/X1102:53
imhsI want to help, but English is not good, (⊙O⊙)…02:54
sruliAmm0n: found /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe02:54
snowstormis it possible to connect a ubuntu server to an OpenVPN service (located onto a distant server)?02:55
srulisnowstorm: regular vpn connection, what the question02:56
sruliAmm0n: is it possible i am currently in failsafe mode? the res is 1920x1080 but no option to chang eit even to a lower one02:57
imhssruli, you need shadowsocks02:57
snowstormsruli: yes a regular vpn connection.  how should i start to connect my server to my vpn service02:57
srulisnowstorm: you have openvpn client installed on the server?02:58
sruliimhs: what is shadowsocks?02:59
snowstormsruli: i can connect to distant server when in gui mode.  just can't succeed when using my home server (cli mode)02:59
srulisnowstorm: how are you trying from the cli?03:00
snowstormsruli: i've installed openvpn, than started it pointing to my openvpn.conf file received from server which point to ca, key, etc files03:01
sruliAmm0n: i guess upgrade to 16.04 is my only way forward03:01
Amm0nsruli, you could try to use a modified xorg.conf. But this one is a little hard to me to walk someone through.03:01
Amm0nlike so: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/multihead03:02
sruliAmm0n: for me that would be so much easier then a upgrade03:02
sruliAmm0n: will read it nw03:02
srulisnowstorm: how do you try to connect from cli?03:02
Amm0nsruli, the Configuration using xorg.conf part03:02
snowstormsruli: sudo openvpn client.conf03:03
srulisnowstorm: ubuntu 16.04?03:03
sruliAmm0n: i give up already, will upgrade to 16.04, really worried about the stuff that will break03:04
imhsEven if it can work, but the screen resolution still makes you headache03:04
snowstormsruli: 14.04.403:04
Amm0nsruli, what stuff are you worried about?03:04
sruliAmm0n: i have a service running in init.d which starts and mounts zfs raid 5 on luks.. i know in 16.04 init has been replaced with  systemd03:06
srulisnowstorm: try without sudo "nmcli con up id <cpn name>"03:06
Amm0nsruli, writing systemd service files is no withcrafting03:06
Amm0n*c03:06
sruliAmm0n: before i tried to install the amd propitiatory drivers, it failed, but before i upgrade i want to remove the packages it installed, whats the best way to find and remove?03:07
srulisnowstorm: that worked?03:08
snowstormsruli: trying now03:09
imhsSynaptic Package Manager03:09
sruliAmm0n: to upgrade all i need is "do-release-upgrade" ?03:09
Amm0nsruli, if something failed upgrading: sudo dpkg --configure -a & sudo apt-get -f install & sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:13
Amm0nto upgrade to 16.04 backup your stuff and sudo do-release-upgrade03:13
sruliAmm0n: thanks03:14
srulisnowstorm: did you manage to connect?03:15
snowstormsruli: no it hand and do not connect03:15
srulisnowstorm: what error did you get?03:15
Amm0nsruli, ah i forgot ppa-purge^ if there are any03:16
sruliAmm0n: the upgrade disables ppa's from what i see03:16
Amm0nsruli, good luck, i got to go now. Bye.03:18
snowstormsruli: Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager......03:18
snowstormsruli: followed by nmcli (0.9.8.8) and MetworkManager (unknown) version don't match....03:19
srulisnowstorm: if you want you can upgrade to a new version of network-manager (not supported by ubuntu) i use it it wirks much better then the ubuntu version https://launchpad.net/~lkundrak/+archive/ubuntu/network-manager-daily-stable after that try again03:24
snowstormsruli: will try and see03:25
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crux0What's the differences between /usr/sbin/service and /bin/systemctl?03:56
crux0If I start a service using /usr/sbin/service, can I stop that service with /bin/systemctl?03:57
GeoHello- I just installed ubuntu on a new raid1 disk set that I inserted into an already running ubuntu box. the install failed when it tried to install GRUB onto the RAID disk. Now when I reboot, I'm getting the ash initramfs shell. How can I repair this failed install?04:01
wangxiaokehello04:01
wangxiaokeis here someone?04:02
EventHorizonafternoon.  any idea where the lock screen clock.qml is located???04:02
wangxiaokeafternoon!04:02
nomicRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4044404/Corbyn-s-Christmas-karaoke-meltdow04:06
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nomicRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4044404/Corbyn-s-Christmas-karaoke-meltdown-Labour-leader-storms-party-rowdy-MPs-chant-want-Tony-sing-Blair-anthem-Things-Better.html#ixzz4T9vj9jIZ04:06
nomicFollow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook04:06
nomiclol04:06
nomic"things can onloy get better"04:06
nomicwas what was the song that they were all singing (labour) .. with the backing of the band, in 199704:06
nomic(blair)04:06
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srulii tried upgrading 14.04 to 16.04, system hung in the middle now it doesnt boot properly, gets stuck before login screen, i booted live cd and tried to recover my ecryptfs "ecryptfs-recover-private" but i get n error "find /run/user/999/gvfs: permission denied.  find: file system loop detected: /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl is part of the same file system loop as /sys/kernel/debug."04:23
kang0Will bootable Linux pen drive work on Windows 8.1 tablet?04:24
liiozx/exit04:25
rangemongerkang0: depends on the tablet04:25
rangemongerwhy not try?04:26
kang0How? rangemonger04:26
kang0What to check in tablet?04:26
kang0I haven't yet created bootable drive04:26
rangemongerits worth a shot, you can run linux live off the usb stick to try it out04:26
rangemongercheck what model of tab it is04:27
rangemongermine, for example, doesnt work too great yet04:27
kang0If it didn't work I don't want to spare 1 or more hour to create bootable drive04:27
rangemongerasus t100taf04:27
kang0Why not working great?04:27
rangemongerit takes 5 min to make a bootable drive04:27
rangemongertouch screen drivers arent quite working yet, sounds not working04:28
kang05 mins only? Are you sure ? How? rangemonger04:28
rangemongerive done it a bunch of times, as have many others04:29
rangemongerdoesnt take long to make a bootable stick04:29
kang0Touch is required; I can ignore  sound04:29
rangemongerthats just my tab04:30
rangemongeryours might be better off04:30
rangemongerunless its the same one as mine04:30
kang0I am sure I have the worst tablet04:30
kang0That's why I am asking in detail04:30
rangemonger"worst" is subjective, it just depends on if there are good drivers made or not04:31
kang01gb ram from worst point of view04:32
SonikkuAmericaFrom experience, I will tell you if you are looking to interface specifically with a touch screen, your best bet will be to use GNOME.04:33
rangemongerkang0: the older the better, more likely to be supported well04:33
lotuspsychjewe have many users having good experience with touch on unity7 and 8 also04:34
kang0SonikkuAmerica gnome is Linux?04:34
kang07" from worst point04:34
kang0What's unity04:34
rangemongerkang0: its one desktop environment on linux, one of many04:35
rangemongerunity too04:35
rangemongertoo bad asus100taf's touch doesnt work right yet04:35
Eduard_Munteanudegarmo, so, you downloaded the drivers and you have to use cd in a terminal to get there.04:35
rangemongersome people are working on it but their drivers arent mainlined yet04:36
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SonikkuAmericakang0: GNOME is a desktop environment for Linux. Along with KDE, it's what people think of when they think of Linux on a desktop.04:39
Bashing-omkang0: 1 Gig of ram though, you want to go with a light desktop environment . unity and kde want 2 Gigs or more for a good experince .04:41
rangemongerindeed04:42
srulidoes rsync copy hidden files by defaut?04:47
kang0Bashing-om which may be for 1gb ram04:48
lauritzt[m]sruli: Yes04:49
Bashing-omkang0: I favor : " Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware." .04:50
rangemongerBashing-om: but it wont be touch freindly04:51
rangemongereverythings kind of small04:51
astrat_poker ace9904:51
kang0What do you mean by touch friendly04:52
morftouch screen support i guess04:52
rangemongerkang0: everythings kind of small04:52
morfwut? :)))04:52
rangemongeron lxde, everythings too small for a finger04:53
morfyou can make pretty much everything on desktop small or big as you want04:53
rangemongerit would get annoying04:53
rangemongerbut for someone whos new and confused, thats not the best way to start04:53
xanguaYou want a light desktop that is user friendly, xfce04:54
AndChat|189569Lxde04:54
morfAndChat|189569: this is not a flame lxde/lubuntu was already recommended04:55
rangemongerxangua: that is touch freindly04:55
kang0morf too small will make my problems worst as it's 7" tablet only04:55
morfkang0: you make icons / bar etc make big or small as you want04:56
morffont size etc04:56
xanguaIf what you want is an OS focused on touchscreen gestures, unity and gnome shell would be better candidates04:56
kang0Display resolution isn't much good on my tablet04:56
rangemongeri 2nd what xangus says04:56
rangemongerthough unity will be slow on 1 gig04:57
kang0xangua my primary need is it should work with my low hardware spec and #2: touch should work in tablet04:57
rangemongergnomes pretty much the best bet04:58
xanguakang0: touch should work is not the same as works with Ubuntu/Linux, you haven't tried then I guess?04:58
rangemongerthey havent yet04:58
rangemongertry it04:58
rangemongerjust run it live off the stick04:58
rangemongergive it a shot04:58
xanguaA tablet? I don't like where this is going04:58
rangemongerlol04:59
rangemongerits hit and miss, yeah04:59
rangemongermine tab was a miss04:59
rangemonger*my tab04:59
eliot......05:09
RonWhoCaresCould someone tell me where GTK UVC stores videos you capture?05:10
eliot中文05:13
rangemongerRonWhoCares: guvcview?05:16
RonWhoCaresrangemonger: Yes, I just did a 'capture video' with this.  Where is the video file created?05:17
RonWhoCares(what file path should I be looking in?)05:18
rangemongerill grab my cam, one sec, ill find out05:18
RonWhoCaresok05:20
RonWhoCaresThank you very much.  I sure hope what I recorded saved.05:20
rangemongercrap, things not finding my cam05:22
rangemongerthe app doesnt even launch without a cam05:22
RonWhoCaresYou have to have your USB web cam plugged into video-005:23
RonWhoCaresTry a different USB port05:23
rangemongeri cant, its a vm :P05:25
lotuspsychje!zn | elio05:25
RonWhoCaresShoot :/05:26
rangemongerim still trying stuff05:26
RonWhoCaresCan anyone else help05:28
RonWhoCaresrangemonger: Do you know what file extension I could search for?05:29
RonWhoCaresrangemonger: What were you going to do to find out?05:29
rangemongeri was just going to record a vid and see if i could find it, maybe do a file searhh05:29
rangemonger*search05:29
rangemongeri dont know, ive never used this app yet05:30
RonWhoCaresrangemonger: Is there a command I could search recursively all files created within the past hour?05:30
rangemongerprobably but i dont know it05:30
rangemongerits likely in your home dir somewhere05:30
Bashing-omRonWhoCares: Try: ' find ~/ -mmin -10 -type f ' replacing -10 with a more appropriate time to specify how far back find should go (from the current time).05:34
RonWhoCaresFound it05:36
rangemongernice, where?05:36
RonWhoCaresIt is in /home/rpiggott05:36
rangemongerah05:36
rangemongercool05:37
RonWhoCaresNo I just have 1 other problem.  It recorded me in mono05:38
RonWhoCareshopefully I can use audicity to export the audio in stereo05:38
rangemongerit might be a setting in the sound crontrol panel05:42
RonWhoCaresI will have to look05:44
RonWhoCaresI am wanting the video I just recorded to work05:44
RonWhoCaresIt is about 30 minutes long.  The video is titled "Support For The Uncertainty Caused By A Prolonged Illness".  My youTube channel is themed about my life with a long term physical disability05:45
rangemongeri see05:47
rangemongerif you want to keep talking about it, its cool, but the chan amins are going to complain05:48
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stein2843lag is high means im offline?06:15
rangemongernope, your online06:17
PhaseI'm using ubuntu mate 16.04 and I can't get this overlay terminal thing off my screen. Pushing F11 just maximizes it and then brings it back to a small window, but I can't find the key to actually close it.06:24
PhaseAny ideas? :D06:24
Ben64Phase: what overlay terminal thing06:25
rangemongerthe quake syle one06:25
rangemongerf11 is usually a fullscreen key06:25
rangemongerso that wont fix it06:25
rangemongerill boot up my mate vm and see whats up06:25
Phasequake style lol06:26
rangemongerwell it kind of is06:26
rangemongerits in the syle of quakes console06:26
Phaseoh true, yeah06:27
rangemongerwhats it called again?06:28
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PsychoX75Has anyone tried running an FTP server on Ubuntu?  Trying Vsftpd. Damn thing is the easiest to install. But creating a working user on it... well, lets just say its easier to shoot staples in my nails.06:30
rangemongerPhase: ^06:30
Phaserangemonger Honestly, I don't know06:30
PhaseI'm looking at a ps output right now seeing if anything looks like it's it.06:30
rangemongerPhase: hmm, im on 16.10, im not sure its on here06:30
Phasehm06:31
kk4ewtsystemctl status vsftpd06:31
PsychoX75kk4ewt: me?06:31
kk4ewtno the other person asking about ftp06:31
rangemongerkk4ewt: that was the person asking about ftp :P]06:32
PsychoX750_o06:32
rangemongerlol06:33
rangemongeroh snap, so it is possible to change tty on virtualbox06:33
rangemongerPhase: is it guake?06:33
PhaseFound it!06:34
Phaseit's `tilda`06:34
lotuspsychjePsychoX75: be carefull with ftp, its getting exploited worldwide06:35
plytroPsychoX75: scp server is better06:35
Phasewhich makes sense, `man tilda` and it says a terminal emulator in the style of old fps games06:35
PsychoX75the thing is06:35
Phaserangemonger ^06:35
plytroand if you want isolation you can run it in a VM or docker container only exposing the directories you want06:35
PsychoX75I'm setting this server up for some dumb Security cams that has to have a remote site to write their video files.06:35
plytro:(06:35
plytroI'd run the ftp server in an isolated container then06:36
PsychoX75now THAT caught my attention06:36
PsychoX75"isolated container" u say06:37
PsychoX75Like VmWare?06:37
plytrolike docker06:37
rangemongerlxc06:37
plytrobsd jail06:37
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Phaserangemonger: Thanks for helping me troubleshoot at least :)06:37
rangemongerPsychoX75: like VMs eh?06:37
rangemongerPhase: im about to get tilda... or did you get it to work?06:38
PsychoX75rangemonger: forget what i said.06:38
plytrorangemonger: guake uses ~ as the hotkey06:38
PsychoX75i just went googling.  :)06:38
PsychoX75For now I'll do this as a short test phase06:38
plytrohttps://hub.docker.com/r/webdevops/vsftp/06:39
rangemongerso its guake?06:39
PsychoX75stuff to read i guess.06:39
PsychoX75But seriously guys... I remember that setting up an FTP server (just to test) used to be quicker. But I cant remember which was that other FTP server proggie i used in the past. I tried to avoid VSFTPD just because of the headache it gives.06:40
Phaserangemonger: It's tilda06:40
Phaserangemonger: I just killed the process to get rid of it, lol06:40
rangemongerlol, ok im going to get tilda06:41
PsychoX75can you name a couple of light-n-easy ftp server programs?  I know it wasnt Proftd. But what...oh...what was the name again?06:41
Phaselol06:41
PhaseIn a bit I'll probably look up how to actually use it06:41
Phasethen it won't be an issue :P06:41
rangemongerim curious anyway, still getting it06:41
PhaseHave fun :P06:41
rangemongerheh, i will06:42
PsychoX75then again... i just got a better idea.  Now i remembered that i can connect an USB stick to my router and let him do the damn job for now.06:42
PsychoX75brb06:42
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rangemongerPhase: its f11+1 :P06:44
rangemongerf1206:44
PhaseI tried that too :\06:44
rangemongerodd06:44
rangemongerhides/shows for me06:44
Phasethis is a laptop, maybe something laptop-y is messing with it06:45
Phaselike the function button, I dunno06:45
rangemongeralso, its on 16.10 by default but it doesnt seem to have a gui icon06:46
PhaseIt doesn't have one on 16.04 either06:46
rangemongerwhats the point in that :/06:47
Phaseto be annoying :D06:47
rangemongerheh06:48
srulii copied a dir using rsync, it shows that it completed, when i compare the 2 dirs the destination is ~10gb less, but when i count the files its exactly the same, original fs is ext4 destination is zfs, can this be the reason?06:57
stein2843so lag means what orz...06:57
lotuspsychjestein2843: ?06:59
lotuspsychjesruli: perhaps the #rsync guys might know that107:01
plytrosruli: yes that could be the reason07:06
plytrozfs may be doing de-dupe07:06
WarringtonJust did a fresh install of 16.04 recently and I've noticed that windows aren't respect the boundaries of the desktop panel if it is positioned at the top07:06
plytroblock size may be different07:06
plytrotherefore size on disk reports differently07:06
plytrosruli: https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+rsync+differnt+file+sizes&oq=linux+rsync+differnt+file+sizes07:08
plytrofirst hit07:08
plytroeven with the typo07:08
giuseppe_ciao ciao07:10
sruliplytro: thanks07:11
RonWhoCaresGood.  My new video is rendering07:18
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robotti^https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/157434707:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1574347 in OEM Priority Project "[SRU] Re-read the link type if the name changed" [Critical,Fix released]07:39
robotti^I have this same bug07:39
robotti^Is there fix for it?07:39
cfhowlettrobotti^ read the bug report for same07:40
robotti^wifi applet does not show list WIFI aps after suspend07:40
robotti^cfhowlett: what you mean?07:41
cfhowlettrobotti^, you asked if there's a fix.  read the bug report. "Fix released"!07:41
robotti^cfhowlett: but how to find solution?07:42
cfhowlettrobotti^, .... "fix" = "solution"07:42
robotti^how to find that fix?07:42
robotti^:D07:42
robotti^I am meaning that07:42
JerryAnyone know if 16.04 will work with cloudstack any time soon?07:43
cfhowlettlook at the bug report. see "fix released"?  see the "I" next to "Fix Released"?  I = click here for more Information07:43
robotti^cfhowlett: It marked for fixed and I have newer fixed package. but bug still persist.08:01
robotti^so it is not fixed08:01
robotti^manual 'sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager.service' fixes things until next login/boot.08:01
robotti^but it is not really fix08:02
Jakey3can someone recommend a router to blend two internet connections?08:05
Ben64Jakey3: wrong channel08:06
puffinz Jupiter routers makes super serial secure routers.08:06
puffinzNOT.08:06
puffinzJuniper08:06
Jakey3thanks08:09
cfhowlettrobotti^, that is the official bug.  If there's a fix, that is where it will appear.08:14
cfhowlettsubscribe to it and wait is the best I can suggest08:15
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robotti^cfhowlett: It seems to be kernel issue. So how to update newer kernel?08:23
cfhowlettrobotti^, sudo apt upgrade grabs all update ready packages including kernels.08:24
Stryker87Hi all08:25
robotti^cfhowlett: I have08:25
robotti^I have newest packages08:26
cfhowlettrobotti^, note our issues to the bug report.08:26
boblamontDoes anyone use Bluefish?08:27
robotti^It seems somebody have also updated kernel and it would not help08:27
robotti^cfhowlett: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/157434708:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1574347 in OEM Priority Project "[SRU] Re-read the link type if the name changed" [Critical,Fix released]08:27
robotti^there was newer bug08:27
robotti^about that08:27
robotti^it is not fixed08:27
Stryker87Hey peeps have a laptop with AMD Radeon HD 5650 gpu whats the best driver for it in 16.04 and how do i install it, only have a 1024x768 screen resolution08:28
cfhowlettboblamont, avoid DAE type questions. for clarity and answers, post YOUR issues and YOUR hardware specifications08:28
Stryker87....option while its a 1366x768 screen08:28
cfhowlett!mad | Stryker8708:28
cfhowlett!amd08:28
ubottuOpen driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD08:28
Stryker87So i use the amdgpu driver?08:29
Stryker87Sorry for the noobness, Window user trying to go full linux :D08:30
boblamontI'm sure it's easy, but I'm trying to create a snippet that matches ( .) and turns it uppercase. It's easy to do manual, because of the "Replace Type" menu, but I don't know what syntax is appropriate for the snippets.08:31
nchambersif I ssh into a server as user $x, I know how to login to user $y, but after logging into user $y, is there a way to delete user $x from user $y? just running deluser doesn't work, since im originally connected to the server as user $x08:34
Ben64nchambers: you have to not be logged into x at all to delete08:34
nchambersyeah thats what I figured :/08:35
nchambersI completely log out of $x right now, but was hoping theres a way where I don't have to do it08:35
aumanyone know how to get a version of sflphone that works in ubuntu 16.10 (xenial)08:35
lokwho was helping me for bootable linux selection for tablet?08:35
rangemongermight have been me but you had a different user name08:37
lokthere were couple of other guys also08:37
Ben64aum: looks like the package got removed between 15.10 and 16.0408:38
lokcorrect name is om08:39
somethingsomethiMy emacs has a stupid empty space before the main screen (canvas) http://imgur.com/a/ug0aF How can I fix it?08:39
puffinzmuh names durreellllllll08:40
aumBen64, that really really sucks - SFLPhone was about the only decent graphical VoIP client08:40
PhaseSFLPhone is now Ring.08:40
Phasehttps://ring.cx/en/download/gnu-linux08:40
aumPhase, thanks08:41
Phaseyou're welcome :)08:41
aumexcept ring doesn't seem to be on 16.04 repos08:42
stein2843how to turn off entry prompt08:42
aumoh wait - distro-specific instructions08:42
aumactually, ring sucks too - doesn't support plain SIP connections08:46
nchambersdo things in the /etc/sudoers.d directory overwrite what appears initially in the /etc/sudoers file?08:49
ducassenchambers: individual files in /etc/sudoers.d are parsed as additions to /etc/sudoers08:52
nchambersright, but do those additions replace any directive that was already there?08:53
ducassethat would depend on the addition, the files are basically cat'ed in at the appropriate #inlude directive08:55
ducasse*#include08:55
ducassenchambers: they might override earlier entries, they don't overwrite them.08:56
nchambersok great. thanks08:56
somethingsomethiMy emacs has a stupid empty space before the main screen (canvas) http://imgur.com/a/ug0aF How can I fix it?09:10
thadthemanI want to mount a USB pendrive without root from the commandline.09:11
mitsakoshi09:21
dikiaapoi09:23
AlphaOmegahello, and help!09:23
rangemongersup09:23
cfhowlett!help | AlphaOmega09:23
ubottuAlphaOmega: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:23
AlphaOmegaty cfhowlett09:24
AlphaOmegaI was looking at 2 failures during load-up viz. qemu-kvm exit-code : 5, systemd-remount-fs exit-code : 1    I fixed the first by disabling the service and the second by updating the UUID in /etc/fstab.    But right after updating the UUID, somehow everytime I run sudo I get this message "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified"..    Now how do I fix this???09:26
AlphaOmegaalso, the SUDO_ASKPASS environment variable is empty09:28
rangemongerhmm, this one goes over my head09:28
rangemongerhopefully someone else is awake here09:29
AlphaOmegasomehow, i don't have a /etc/sudo.conf file.. :(09:29
AlphaOmegaan example file is present at /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sudo.conf09:29
rangemongeryou can make one09:30
rangemongerwith... oh what was it09:30
rangemongerX -configure, maybe09:30
AlphaOmegai'd rather use the example file.. kinda spooked with commands that generate configs09:30
loki was disconnected09:32
AlphaOmegalok, can you help me out?09:33
loktellmme AlphaOmega09:33
AlphaOmegasomehow everytime I run sudo I get this message "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified"..    Now how do I fix this???09:34
AlphaOmegaalso, the SUDO_ASKPASS environment variable is empty09:34
AlphaOmegasomehow, i don't have a /etc/sudo.conf file.. :(     and an example file is present at /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sudo.conf09:34
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robotti^does anybody here know about acpi things?09:38
robotti^I have problem with backlight keyboard on my keyboard09:41
* AlphaOmega is inexperienced with acpi09:42
robotti^when I leave my laptop for while alone it will dim screen but it will enable keyboard backlight09:42
fuzzybear3965I have a user running a particular process (command line) but I need to restart the display manager.09:42
fuzzybear3965<fuzzybear3965> Is that okay?09:42
fuzzybear3965<fuzzybear3965> Will the user's task terminate?09:42
fuzzybear3965<fuzzybear3965> He's ffmpeg-ing in tmux and I want to `systemctl restart lightdm`.09:42
fuzzybear3965Sorry, you guys. I'm moving this question from #linux.09:42
robotti^How I can disable keyboard backlight from acpi battery behavior?09:42
yaroslavHi. I use kde neon 5.8.4. I've tried to install veracrypt and get this error: Verifying archive integrity...  100%   All good.09:43
yaroslavUncompressing VeraCrypt 1.19 Installer  100%09:43
yaroslavQStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'09:43
robotti^I want to enable keyboard backlight by software.09:43
yaroslavhow to fix it?09:43
robotti^I do not want09:43
AlphaOmegayaroslav: by setting XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to a value expected by veracrypt?09:44
bazhang!info veracrypt09:44
ubottuPackage veracrypt does not exist in yakkety09:44
bazhangwhy not ask in a veracrypt channel then09:45
bazhang /msg alis list veracrypt  to find one09:45
AlphaOmegadoes anyone have a copy of 'uncustomized/unedited' /etc/sudo.conf?09:45
ducasseyaroslav: kde neon is not supported here09:46
rangemongerAlphaOmega: i might i have VMs with fresh installs of 'buntus09:46
rangemongeryaroslav: go to #kdeneon09:46
rangemongeryaroslav: go to or was it #kde-neon09:46
AlphaOmegacan you look for and drop it to paste.ubuntu.com?09:46
rangemonger*or was it09:47
usilhello. Why I don't have any premmison09:47
usilcd Documents/09:47
usilbash: cd: Documents/: Permission denied09:47
AlphaOmegarangemonger: can you look for and drop it to paste.ubuntu.com?09:47
usilI'm the owner of files09:47
AlphaOmegausil: ls -l Documents/09:47
rangemongerAlphaOmega: ok09:47
AlphaOmegausil: show what's the output09:47
usills -l Documents/09:47
usiltotal 009:47
ducasseusil: ls -ld Documents09:47
usilducasse: ls -ld Documents/09:48
usildrw-rw-r-- 2 slani slani 4096 Dez 18 00:20 Documents/09:48
AlphaOmegathere we go09:48
ducasseusil: chmod +x Documents09:48
gpiothe x factor09:48
AlphaOmegachmod a+x Documents09:48
AlphaOmegayep09:48
AlphaOmegausil: it's not that you don't have permission, it's that your folder is 'locked'09:49
cfhowlettencryption???09:49
AlphaOmegacfhowlett: wuht??09:49
usilAlphaOmega: why my folder is 'locked'09:49
ducassemore likely _someone_ has messed with the permissions. i suspect pebcak.09:49
cfhowlett:)09:50
AlphaOmegaany directory missing an eXecute permission cannot be opened.. File permission basics09:50
usilAlphaOmega: becaseu all my folders in home folder are 'locked'09:50
usilthat is a problem09:50
ducasseusil: that does not happen by itself.09:50
AlphaOmegaou.. looks like you or some script ran a chmod a-x * on your home directory09:50
rangemongerAlphaOmega: fresh install, that files non existent09:51
usilducasse: I know. Thath is a problem09:51
AlphaOmegarangemonger: can you see the output of `echo $SUDO_ASKPASS`?09:51
rangemongerok, one sec09:51
usilCan this be contected that my home foled is encrypted09:51
Ben64usil: no09:52
AlphaOmegano09:52
Ben64be more careful with chmod and wildcards09:52
usilI made a new install and the first time I choose encrypt home folder.09:52
Ben64unrelated09:52
usilAnd this is a firts time I encouter with this problem09:52
AlphaOmegamaybe the install scripts have this tiny little caveat?09:52
rangemongerAlphaOmega: it outputs nothing, just goes to a new line09:53
AlphaOmegarangemonger: what about the /etc/sudoers file? does it include a special line?09:53
AlphaOmegausil: show the output of `cat ~/.bash_history | grep chmod`09:54
rangemongerAlphaOmega: /etc/sudoers.d/ ?09:54
usilAlphaOmega: chmod  755 vimlua09:55
usilchmod 644 *09:55
usilchmod 655 *09:55
usilchmod 666 *09:55
usilchmod 644 *09:55
usilchmod  664 *09:55
AlphaOmegarangemonger: if there is something more than a README file inside sudoers.d, then that too.. but I want to see a copy of /etc/sudoers (file)09:55
usilAlphaOmega: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23647127/09:56
AlphaOmegausil: there we go... a chmod setting permissions without eXecute bit (even number trio) on everything in the current directory09:56
AlphaOmegayou did do that yourself09:56
rangemongerAlphaOmega: just the readme09:57
AlphaOmegarangemonger: forget the sudoers.d folder then.. i wanna see the /etc/sudoers (this is a file)09:57
rangemongerAlphaOmega: i  dont have that file09:58
AlphaOmegais it a live cd09:58
rangemongernot at the moment09:59
rangemongerits an install09:59
Ben64is it ubuntu09:59
AlphaOmegait is a sudo user, right?09:59
usilAlphaOmega: thanks :D09:59
AlphaOmegaas Ben64 said : <Ben64> be more careful with chmod and wildcards10:00
* gpio posted sudoers on paste.ubuntu.com10:02
usilducasse: ups. I make a mistake10:03
ducasseusil: we all do.10:04
AlphaOmeganevermind10:05
AlphaOmegafixed that10:05
AlphaOmegaagain, without a /etc/sudo.conf or SUDO_ASKPASS env variable10:05
AlphaOmegaanyway, ty folks.. much appreciated. ty rangemonger10:06
rangemongerno prob10:06
Baidujoined10:15
Dreamanhttps://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23647192/   :)~10:16
puffinzWhat are the big differences between Debian and Ubuntu?10:18
Dreamanubuntu is debian10:18
Dreamanmint is ubuntu10:19
Dreamannothing10:19
puffinzIm sure there must be some differences10:19
cfhowlettDreaman, false.  this is the support channel.  ask your questions and do not spread disinformation.10:19
Dreamandisinformation is10:20
cfhowlettDreaman, ask your ubuntu questions10:20
puffinzI just dont see many differences, maybe im talkin in circles ;)10:20
* puffinz trots away 10:20
Dreamanhttps://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23647192/  cfhowlett nothing i just install ubuntu in my new laptop10:21
Dreamana not a lame10:21
cfhowlettthis is not channel for chitchat.  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic10:21
Dreamanok10:21
Dreamanthenks10:22
backboxhi10:22
Cust0sLimen.10:56
smeerthey guys11:04
smeertinstalled ned software raid to my computer. tips on how to use it? I mean how to format is as ext4 and mount it to something?11:05
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Mouaadhello, why the package linux-image-generic-lts-yakkety has been deleted from canonical-kernel-team/ppa? and should I continue to use it ?11:22
testmlhello wtf is wrong with 16.* ?11:34
testmlhow do you ship broken kernels?11:34
MonkeyDusttestml  mind your language and start from the beginning, what brings you here11:34
testml?11:34
rangemongerthe kerns not broken11:36
rangemongera bunch of people are using it just fine so it cant be11:36
breitburg_hi11:40
testmlwell it appears the bug is in intel x video driver11:41
tomreynMouaad: have your read the description at https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ?11:42
tomreynthis PPA is not supported here, and probably nowhere else either11:43
ubuntu832when i delete files from a separate disk the files don't show up in trash and instead go to a local .trash-0 or .trash-1000 how can i have it show up in main trash?11:52
Ben64ubuntu832: you don't11:53
bekksubuntu832: "separate disk" - thats an USB disk?11:53
ubuntu832from either external disk or separate internal disk in the system11:53
ubuntu832it's a new install and i think i messed up something while trying out file managers11:54
oteganybody here?11:54
bekksoteg: Look at "/names", so ye.11:54
bekks*yes11:54
ubuntu832when i delete files from a separate disk or a separate partition it doesn't show in trash, i have to hunt down the local .trash folder and manually delete11:54
otegguys, you arent afraid of anybody can knows your ip?11:56
oteghmm?11:56
bekksoteg: Whats your actual ubuntu support question please?11:56
otegi havent, i just asked, because this is intresting11:57
rangemongerubuntu832: thats normal, even win does that11:57
whitesqualloteg: is it bad?11:58
ubuntu832This wasn't the case with my old ubuntu install though11:58
ubuntu832rangemonger:11:58
otegyes11:58
otegi just collect ip-s11:58
supardimorning kkkk11:58
ubuntu832i could delete files from my external drive or from my windows partition and it would show up in my trash folder11:58
netcrashhello, I have ubuntu always installing 3.13 linux initrd on my system don't understand why since this was long removed , any ideas?11:58
rangemongerubuntu832: certain file manager might do it differently11:58
rangemongerits an option on pcmanfm11:59
ubuntu832I've tried thunar and nemo11:59
ubuntu832oh really11:59
MonkeyDustnetcrash  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue11:59
ubuntu832i'll have to try pcmanfm if all fails11:59
bugtraqhi11:59
ubuntu832but nemo on my old install never gave this issue11:59
bugtraqi need a keyloger pls12:00
ubuntu832and i hated thunar because when i tried to merge folders it doesn't know how it just makes another copy of it12:00
supardiubuntu  ,.. run  old my pc  ,...  amazyng12:00
ubuntu832ridiculous12:00
rangemongerlol wut12:01
rangemongerthats weird12:01
ubuntu832that's what i thought12:01
ubuntu832so i installed nemo instead12:01
netcrashMonkeyDust: how can I view that? ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't have any terminal ...12:02
ubuntu832im trying out xubuntu atm but im thinking about going back and installing xfce over stock ubuntu instead if it keeps giving me issues like this12:02
supardiubuntu  ,.. run  my old pc  ,...  amazing ,...  fast  respec12:02
bekksubuntu832: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce. As long as you will be using xfce, the issue will persist.12:02
MonkeyDustnetcrash  open a terminal and type    cat /etc/issue12:03
ubuntu832well i remember running xfce over my ubuntu and it didn't have this particular issue in the past12:03
MonkeyDustnetcrash  use ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal12:03
rangemongerubuntu832: huh, i have a clean xubuntu install, im not seeing massive problems12:03
ubuntu832im wondering if its because xubuntu comes with thunar as the file manager by default12:03
bekksubuntu832: xubuntu AND xfce come with thunar.12:04
ubuntu832rangemonger: when you delete files from a different disk/partition does it go to main trash?12:04
rangemongerubuntu832: likely thunar/a thunar setting12:04
ubuntu832hmmm...12:04
rangemongerlet me check12:04
ubuntu832I've tried googling but the answers I've found have all been workarounds and not a real solution12:04
rangemongerbooting the xubuntu vm....12:04
ubuntu832the ones that i found are "just delete using shift-del"12:04
ubuntu832which isn't a real answer for continued functionality imo12:05
rangemongeryeah, thats not a real answer12:05
rangemongerboo-urns to that12:05
bekksshift-del does something totally different than putting things to trash.12:05
rangemongershift del = nuke it on the spot12:05
ubuntu832yerp12:05
ubuntu832that's why I'm here :D12:05
ubuntu832there must be a real solution to it... it doesn't make sense deleting a file should be this complicated12:06
Ben64deleting isn't the problem though12:06
bekksubuntu832: Deleting a file is trivial.12:06
rangemongerim going to have to make another partition, one sec12:07
ubuntu832well deleting it to the proper folder etc.12:07
bekksubuntu832: You want a cumulated trash, which is a) different, and b) complicated12:07
Ben64no12:07
Ben64you don't delete something to a folder12:07
rangemongerits simple with pcmanfm12:07
ubuntu832bekks: it wasn't an issue on my old ubuntu install which is why it's more puzzling12:07
bekksubuntu832: either you delete OR you put things into trash.12:07
rangemongerpcmanfm has an option to make .trash files on a removable12:07
supardiMADBOX  Sync Openbox  ,...   LXDE desk12:08
ubuntu832i had a laptop with w7/ubuntu and when i deleted files from w7/external it went into trash12:08
ubuntu832it didn't go to a separate .trash folder on the drive12:08
bekksubuntu832: It did. That behaviour is as is for ages.12:08
ubuntu832bekks: i assure you it didn't lol12:09
ubuntu832otherwise my laptop would've been useless years ago12:09
ubuntu832it all showed up in my main trash folder on ubuntu12:09
bekksubuntu832: If your workflow entirely relies on putting things into trash, I'd rethink that workflow instead.12:09
Ben64sure it might have showed up, but that's not the same thing as not being on the original drive12:10
ubuntu832Ben64: yer but the point was I could delete a file from anywhere and it would show in the main trash where i could delete for good, not hunt down a separate .trash folder on the drive to delete for good.12:10
bekksubuntu832: It showd up there, but it was located on the external drive, still.12:11
Ben64if you want to delete something, why not just delete it to begin with12:11
bekksI second Ben64 at that point.12:11
rangemonger3rd12:11
Ben64although the issue is probably thunar's fault12:11
ubuntu832hrm12:11
ubuntu832yea i agree Ben6412:11
Ben64works fine on my system here with nautilus12:11
rangemongerim about to try on thunar12:11
ubuntu832i prefer nemo over nautilus12:12
rangemongermaking another part,12:12
rangemonger*partition12:12
ubuntu832im wondering if there's some kind of conflict with using nemo on xubuntu12:12
bekksI prefer terminal over graphical filemanagers.12:12
bekksubuntu832: No, there is no conflict like that.12:12
ubuntu832bc as i understand it i can never completely remove thunar from xubuntu12:12
rangemongeraw crud12:13
rangemongeri cant resize12:13
rangemongerboo-urns12:13
rangemongerswapoff i say12:13
rangemongermaking a new partition with that12:14
ubuntu832thx rangemonger12:14
rangemongerubuntu832: no prob.... it just wants to delete things12:15
rangemongernot cool thunar, not cool12:15
ubuntu832lol right12:15
rangemongermaybe its a hidden setting in the config file for it12:15
ubuntu832I'm trying out xubuntu to maximize performance but i might end up going back to unity if this continues being an issue12:16
rangemongerbut it doesnt appeart to be a visible setting12:16
rangemongerkde is my jam12:16
rangemongerso many options12:16
ubuntu832yeah?12:16
ubuntu832i do have a new machine but i want to keep it as minimal as possible12:17
ubuntu832hence xubuntu over ubuntu12:17
MouaadMouaad12:17
ubuntu832i considered lubuntu but it sounded like it kept things TOO low powered12:17
ubuntu832too minimal12:17
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Mouaadanyone knows what may cause this error in the startup ? ([drm:amdgpu_cgs_get_firmware_info [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Failed to request firmware)12:18
bekksubuntu832: Did you try it?12:18
MouaadPS: im using kernel 4.912:18
ubuntu832lubuntu?12:18
bekksubuntu832: Yeah.12:18
ubuntu832no12:18
bekksubuntu832: So you relied on rumours.12:18
ubuntu832rumours and from what i researched, yes.12:18
rangemongerlubuntu is pretty decent12:19
rangemongerim using lxde to run my hypervisor12:19
rangemongerunlike most linux peeps, i needs mah gui12:19
ubuntu832same12:19
bekksubuntu832: Unless you tried it out, your reasearch was about rumours.12:20
rangemongerthere are only so many commands i can type before i dont want to bother anymore12:20
rangemongerand this is from someone who started with dos 512:20
ubuntu832i can reasonably extract my own conclusions w/o trying everything bekks12:20
bekksubuntu832: I strongly doubt that.12:21
ubuntu832i'm considering going antergos12:21
ubuntu832sure is going on assumptions bekks12:21
ubuntu832rangemonger: what are you running? stock ubuntu?12:22
exaltHello, i am used to working with colemak keyboad layout, when i install ubuntu as a guest in virtualbox with disk encryption i can not enter the valid key during boot. how can i set the correct console keyboad layout during installation ?12:22
MonkeyDustantergos is Arch, is what i read here12:22
bekksubuntu832: Yeah, and your assumptions are quite different from reality, in terms of lubuntu, e.g.12:22
bekksMonkeyDust: Yes, Antergos is an Arch Linux fork.12:22
ubuntu832yeah MonkeyDust12:22
rangemongerubuntu832: i installed a minimal ubuntu with no gui, added a bare lxde setup to it to host vbox and xen12:22
rangemongerunder VMs, im running all sorts of OSs12:22
ubuntu832but the mini iso then?12:23
rangemongeryeah12:23
ubuntu832hrm12:23
rangemongeri started with that12:23
ubuntu832might try that route as well12:23
rangemongeri compiled it into an iso12:23
ubuntu832i tried arch and whatnot but I'm on wifi and have had issues getting the drivers set up for my wireless card12:23
rangemongerah12:24
ubuntu832if i had a proper connection I'd give it a real go i think.  good tutorials online12:24
MonkeyDustubuntu832  so you see, every distro (or OS) has its own issues12:25
ubuntu832yarp12:25
ubuntu832i didn't think this would've been a particular issue considering it worked fine in my unity setup12:26
ubuntu832out of all the issues i thought I'd run into this would've been on the bottom half of the list12:26
rangemongerits  a thunar issue12:26
rangemongerim going to see if the thunar config has an option12:27
PCatineanhey guys12:27
ubuntu832rangemonger: just fyi i still have issues when i delete stuff from nemo12:27
PCatineanI just ran find ./ -type f -readable -writable -exec sed -i "s/cybernetnews/cybernet/g" {} \; and I replaced stuff in .git files and now they are corrupt12:28
ubuntu832could it be that thunar running in the background is causing the issue?12:28
PCatineanany thingI can do to undo this?12:28
rangemongerwouldnt think so12:28
bekksPCatinean: Restore your backup.12:29
rangemongeryeah, this setup, for me is the ultimate12:29
PCatineanhow?12:29
kernellohello everyone, I've been having problems with network-manager for a long while. it doesnt show wifi networks when waking up from sleep mode, or after wifi switch is turned off-on. sometimes it doesnt show the name of the connected network, either. and sometimes the wifi symbol on the upper pane is replaced by this: https://is.gd/kmhT5R12:29
bekksPCatinean: How did you create your backup before?12:29
Ben64PCatinean: and be more careful how you run commands like that in the future12:29
rangemongernow i just gotta move everthing over to xen for the icing12:29
OerHeksPCatinean, or reload the files from GIT and start over?12:30
kernellois there already a way to fix this?12:30
ubuntu832reinstall drivers?12:30
kernelloubuntu832, did you answer my question?12:31
OerHekskernello, lots of issues with sleep and wifi, sometimes it takes up to a minute to reconnect, or find out what is going on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI12:31
ubuntu832that was my suggestion12:31
rangemongerwow, thunars config file has almost no options12:31
ubuntu832yeah not a fan of thunar so far12:32
mgorkernello, sometimes it helps to restart the network-manager service, this can be done automagically when waking up from sleep, http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade/761220#76122012:33
kernellomgor, I know that I can restart nm from terminal. this is what I've been doing dozens of times. but I want to solve this.12:33
ubuntu832rangemonger: another thought: the trash issue continues even when I'm deleting stuff from nemo; eg if i delete files from nemo from another partition it ends up in a separate .trash folder12:34
kernelloit cannot be that I need to go to terminal every time I log into desktop12:34
ubuntu832im wondering if it's a disk ownership issue12:34
mgorkernello, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/155635712:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1585863 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1556357 WiFi malfunction after suspend & resume stress - sudo wpa_cli scan required to fix it." [High,Confirmed]12:34
ubuntu832deleting files from /home goes straight to trash12:35
rangemongerim about to try the same thing on ubuntu12:35
ubuntu832it's the other partitions/disks that causes the problem12:35
bekksubuntu832: Other files go to trash too, but are physically located elsewhere.12:36
kernellomgor, yes, I have had the problem since about the time it was first posted. seems unsolved yet.12:36
bekksubuntu832: And this behaviour has been as is since the beginning of the universe.12:36
ubuntu832bekks: I'm not sure you get what i mean12:37
mgorkernello, yes, I had the same problem, but the workaround from askubuntu that I posted has solved, most of, the issue for me.12:37
rangemongerbekks: actually thunar just outright deletes them12:37
rangemongeri just tried it12:37
ubuntu832old ubuntu: deleting files from any drive/disk/partition would show up in trash12:37
mgorkernello, I even had a similar issue on 14.04, where the workaround was to kill wpa_supplicant when waking from sleep12:37
bekksubuntu832: I do get what you mean. you want the trashes of external disks show up in your "main trash" too.12:38
ubuntu832new install: deleting files from drives/disks/partition goes to a separate .trash folder on the drive/disk/partition that i have to hunt down and delete for good manually12:38
OerHeksubuntu832, only in gui, not from command line12:38
bekksubuntu832: Every disk has its own trash folder, always.12:38
ubuntu832and I'd like to relegate them into one trash no matter where they're deleted from12:38
Ben64ubuntu832: ok but why not just delete things12:38
kernellomgor, I think I've had it with 14.04., too. thank you for the solution. I will try it and see if it works.12:38
ubuntu832this was automatic on the old install12:38
Ben64ubuntu832: or install ubuntu if you care this much12:38
bekksubuntu832: you are mixing up the LOCATION and the DISPLAY of the trash folders.12:38
ubuntu832Ben64: i like to review what I'm deleting before i delete them for good.12:39
Ben64review them before deleting12:39
Ben64save yourself a step12:39
ubuntu832bekks: do you have a solution for having deleted files from other partitions show up in one trash?12:40
OerHeksthere is only one trash service.12:40
Oncomexit12:41
bekksubuntu832: As I said, I second Ben64, and personally, I am using a terminal.12:41
ubuntu832OerHeks: do you have a solution for having deleted files from other partitions show up in one trash?12:41
rangemongeryep, thunar definitely does it differntly than nautilus12:42
rangemongerjust checked with both12:42
Ben64so there are two options. pick one.12:42
Ben641. deal with it12:42
Ben642. install ubuntu12:42
OerHeksubuntu832, no. the trash folder gives the path of the file, easy to filter12:42
OerHeksstill trash remains in its own /.Trash-1000 on the partition12:42
ubuntu832right but it would show up in trash, where i could delete them for good on my old ubuntu install.12:43
ubuntu832xubuntu has issues with this12:43
Ben64so pick an option12:43
ubuntu832Ben64: you're giving workarounds, not solutions12:43
bekksubuntu832: The solution is to use something that has no issues with it.12:44
Ben64you have exactly those two solutions12:44
bekksubuntu832: a third option would be: 3) get the source code and fix it.12:44
Ben64ok three options, 2 realistic :)12:44
rangemongerOerHeks: depends on what file manager you use12:44
bekksBen64: :D12:44
rangemongerthere are kind of more than 212:44
rangemongerdifferent file managers handle it differently12:44
ubuntu832^^^12:45
rangemongeri just opened a vm with ubuntu and one with xubuntu to confirm this12:45
ubuntu832and im asking if it's a file manager issue or an ubuntu issue12:45
ubuntu832rangemonger is the only one actually helping out here12:45
MonkeyDustubuntu832  try this     sudo aptitude purge ~c12:45
OerHeksnever heard about filemanagers handle trash differently, proof?12:46
ubuntu832[04:45] <rangemonger> i just opened a vm with ubuntu and one with xubuntu to confirm this12:46
ubuntu832^^^12:46
Ben64this has gone on for almost an hour12:46
ubuntu832thunar appears to be complete crap12:46
MouaadHello, where can I get the package linux-generic-lts-yakkety ? I can't find it12:46
Ben64ubuntu832: great then stop using it12:46
ubuntu832having the same issue with nemo in xubuntu as well tho Ben6412:47
rangemongerOerHeks: proofs there if you run it12:47
Ben64Mouaad: what version of ubuntu are you using12:47
Ben64ubuntu832: then don't use nemo12:47
Mouaadben64: xenial12:47
ubuntu832nemo worked fine and as expected on my old install Ben6412:47
ubuntu832this was not an issue there, im wondering why its an issue now12:47
Ben64Mouaad: 16.04 doesn't work like that anymore... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack12:47
bekksubuntu832: How long will you continue to discuss your two realistic options?12:48
ubuntu832i like to look for solutions instead of running away from them on linux12:48
rangemongeryou guys are being a bit of a prick12:48
ubuntu832bc there's always a way12:48
MonkeyDustubuntu832  try this     sudo aptitude purge ~c12:48
Ben64it's been nearly an hour going around in circles12:48
Ben64it's insane12:48
Ben64ubuntu832: then grab the source code and head down the rabbit hole of option 312:49
ubuntu832who uses linux and doesn't try to find a way to solve an issue instead of working around it12:49
Ben64you're not going to find anyone here to do it for you12:49
ubuntu832rangemonger is helping12:49
bekksubuntu832: The solutions were given. In case you dont accept them, its doesnt make them "not a solution" magically.12:49
ubuntu832the rest of you lot are just telling me to do something else12:49
ubuntu832"solution: don't do that" is not a solution12:49
uzer8738473What is the command name for the Screenshot" program? I want to use that one, instead of "xfce-screenshot"12:50
Ben64not the solution you want, but as a great poet once said, "you can't always get what you want"12:50
bekksubuntu832: I told you to grab the source code already. So why are you discussing it, instead of getting it and FIXING the problem?12:50
ubuntu832bc ubuntu shouldn't be that difficult to use?12:51
rangemongerim going to see if dolphin has any options12:51
ubuntu832thx rangemonger12:51
MonkeyDustBen64  that great poet were the Rolling Stones (fyi)12:51
MouaadBen64: oh ! will  linux-hwe-edge work ? (all i need actualy is a kernel above 4.4)12:51
Ben64Mouaad: yep!12:52
bekksubuntu832: Ok, so you want to continue to waste peoples time. Good luck in doing so, I'm out of your pointless issue.12:52
MouaadBen64: okay ! thank you :)12:52
ubuntu832bekks: ya never helped m8 thx anyway12:52
bekksubuntu832: Then you didnt even read the answers when asking questions.12:53
rangemongerwhat was kdes partition prog called again?12:53
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rangemongerdolphin doesnt have much trash options but it has more than the others12:55
ubuntu832i might give that a shot next12:55
ubuntu832rangemonger: kde partition manager?12:56
rangemongeryeah, i forget what the kde one is called12:56
rangemongeri need to turn the swap partition into another ext4 one to test things12:56
rommelpartitionmanager i think is the dpkg12:57
ubuntu832no i mean it's literally called kde partition manager i think12:57
rommelyeah i know what you meant... i wasnt sure what he was asking for12:57
rommelyou could just use swapoff and mkfs.ext412:58
rangemongerwhats the package called in apt?12:58
rommeli am in gentoo right now but i think its just partitionmanager12:59
ubuntu832partitionmanager it looks like12:59
ubuntu832you can install KDE Partition Manager using Linux Terminal: Open Linux Terminal by pressing Ctrl + Alt + T at the same time, then type sudo apt-get install partitionmanager13:00
ubuntu832is what i found from googlgin13:00
ubuntu832googling13:00
rangemongerscore13:00
rangemongerthats it13:00
rangemongerit gets moved to trash13:03
ubuntu832:OOO13:03
rangemongerdolphin does it right13:03
ubuntu832fucking awesome rangemonger13:03
rangemongerman i knew i loved kde for a reason13:03
ubuntu832thanks a lot man, you've been A LOT of help13:03
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ubottuubuntu832: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList13:04
rangemongerim not sure if its the same trash though13:04
ubuntu832ah sorry ducasse13:04
rangemongerits a .trash folder on the device13:05
ubuntu832mmm13:05
rangemongerso better than thunar, atleast but not the same trash13:05
ubuntu832right13:05
ubuntu832yeah thunar has been disappointing to me in several ways13:05
ubuntu832but willing to try dolphin13:06
rangemongerpcmanfm has this as an option, also13:06
ubuntu832i'll give that a go as well13:06
ducassei suspect thunar lets gvfs handle trash, but you should really ask the xfce devs about that.13:07
rangemongeryou could make a trsash0 symlink, maybe13:07
\9caja is pretty nice too13:07
rangemongerthat way it might get rerouted to the main one13:07
rangemongeroh yeah, ill try caja13:07
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chris__hello, can anybody tell me how i can enable resume/wake on usb (when keyboard button is pressed)?13:08
netcrashMonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l13:09
netcrashMonkeyDust: my /etc/issue13:09
emanplayshi?13:09
Ben64ubuntu832: what version ubuntu13:10
ubuntu832xubuntu 16.1 Ben6413:10
Ben6416.10?13:10
ubuntu832yes13:11
emanplays#ubuntu13:11
rangemongerare there any other apps like gnome-disks?13:11
emanplayshello?13:11
rangemongerones that let you set automounting on boot13:11
ducasse!ask | emanplays13:11
ubottuemanplays: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:11
MonkeyDustemanplays  ask your ubuntu question13:11
ubuntu832i think you have to do that via terminal rangemonger13:12
ubuntu832rangemonger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Mounting_Partitions_Automatically13:13
rangemongerubuntu832: well, not with gnome-disks atleast13:13
rangemongerbut gnome apps look so out of place13:13
ubuntu832agree13:13
rangemongeralso, caja does it teh same as kde13:13
Mouaadanyone have an idea about this error: `ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-4.8.15-040815-generic is not supported` ?!!!13:13
netcrashhello, I have ubuntu always installing 3.13 linux initrd on my system don't understand why since this was long removed , any ideas? MonkeyDust /etc/issue is Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l13:13
ducasserangemonger: afaik, gnome disks is the only gui tool that generates fstab entries13:13
rangemongerducasse: thanks, thats a shame though13:14
rangemongerubuntu832: yeah, caja does it the same was a pcmanfm and dolphin, makes a .trash dir on the device13:14
Ben64everything makes a trash dir on the device13:14
ubuntu832hrm ok rangemonger13:15
MonkeyDustnetcrash  what's the output of    cat /etc/apt/sources.list ... use pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/13:15
Ben64well xubuntu 16.04 works fine, about to test 16.1013:15
rangemongerthats probably how it worked before13:15
Ben64thinking now it's user error13:15
ducasserangemonger: what is it you want - a qt tool?13:15
rangemongerafaik those are the only 2 trash/recycle methods that any os uses13:16
rangemongerducasse: in a perfect world, yeah13:16
netcrashMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23647935/13:16
ducasserangemonger: i don't do qt, sorry :) #kubuntu might know?13:17
rangemongerducasse heh, ok noted13:17
rangemongeras soon as they answer my quetion, ive gotta go though13:18
ubuntu832hey if i don't catch you again, thanks a lot again rangemonger13:19
ubuntu832been very helpful13:19
rangemongerno prob, glad i could13:19
MonkeyDustnetcrash  the output of    ls -l /boot/13:19
netcrashMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23647948/ , I manually deleted the images for 3.13 since I didn't see them in dpkg --list13:20
MonkeyDustnetcrash  first, try    sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c13:22
Ben64ubuntu832: it's a problem in 16.10 xubuntu, install 16.04 or deal with it, or fix it yourself of course13:23
netcrashMonkeyDust: gzip: stdout: No space left on device13:23
ubuntu832lol no way really Ben6413:23
Ben64yes way13:23
netcrashMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23647959/13:24
ubuntu832I'm totally okay with using 16.04 but I'm just surprised that that's the issue13:24
jamesrleimermorning13:25
ubuntu832well thanks very much then Ben64 for going through the trouble13:25
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MonkeyDustnetcrash  the output of   df -h13:26
Ben64so in the end, you ended up picking one of the two options13:26
Ben64only took ~90 mins13:26
Ben64https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/163382413:27
ubuntu832well you said to either deal with it or install ubuntu13:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1633824 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu Yakkety) "nautilus ignores trash on external drives" [Medium,Fix committed]13:27
ubuntu832installing an older version is a diff option and totally okay with using an LTS version13:27
Ben64well basically it was deal with it or install something without the problem13:28
ubuntu832thx for the link Ben64 will contribute13:28
ubuntu832i was wondering if it was a thunar issue tbh13:28
ubuntu832or if i messed up something during disk setup... first time installing on a desktop with multiple disks13:29
Ben64maybe this http://askubuntu.com/questions/836665/ubuntu-16-10-deleted-files-dont-go-to-trash-and-keep-taking-space13:29
Ben64might want to start with google next time13:29
SchrodingersScat!google13:30
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.13:30
Ben64SchrodingersScat: bro13:30
SchrodingersScatbruh13:30
ubuntu832thx SchrodingersScat13:30
Ben64this problem has been circling the drain for an hour and a half13:30
netcrashMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23647978/13:30
ubuntu832Ben64: you found the problem tho m813:30
SchrodingersScat!info trash-cli | ubuntu83213:30
Ben64it's not unreasonable, after figuring everything out, that i suggest to start with a google next time13:30
ubottuubuntu832: trash-cli (source: trash-cli): command line trashcan utility. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.12.9.14-2 (yakkety), package size 21 kB, installed size 120 kB13:30
Ben64so don't give me the dumb trigger crap13:30
SchrodingersScatBen64: <313:31
ubuntu832i did, i just didn't expect it to be a release specific issue13:31
ubuntu832that would not have been a guess.13:31
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ubuntu832yeah i'll check that out too SchrodingersScat13:31
Ben64easy mode - ubuntu <version> <basic description of problem>13:31
Ben64put that into google, drink answers13:32
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MonkeyDustnetcrash  ok, /boot/ is 100% full ... try manually deleting obsolete files (3.13)13:33
ubuntu832sweet looks like everything will work out then13:33
ubuntu832thx Ben64, SchrodingersScat13:33
netcrashMonkeyDust: I did that but when I use "apt install or upgrade" it generates the initrd files13:33
ducassenetcrash: use dpkg -P package13:33
netcrashfor the 3.1313:33
MonkeyDustnetcrash  ok, delete them again, then don't upgrade, but use    sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c13:34
MonkeyDustnetcrash  really? also with apt install? odd...13:35
ducasseMonkeyDust: ~c = config remaining?13:35
netcrashMonkeyDust: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-55-generic13:36
netcrashWARNING: missing /lib/modules/3.13.0-52-generic13:36
MonkeyDustducasse  not sure what ~c stands for13:37
ubuntu832thx again everyone13:38
ducasseMonkeyDust: it seems to be, just tested here. til, ty.13:40
MonkeyDustnetcrash  interesting issue, from a technician's point of view ... use this    find / -name "3.13" -exec ls -l {} \; 2> /dev/null13:40
GOPROOph12.04 precie13:41
netcrashMonkeyDust: used dpkg --list | grep 3.13 and remove linux headers for 3.13 , didn't solve the issue13:42
melonsound28hi there13:42
netcrashMonkeyDust: that find command didn't return anything13:42
MonkeyDustnetcrash  try synaptic package manager (not installed by default) ... erase all 3.13 from there13:43
ducassenetcrash: 'sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.13*'13:43
netcrashducasse: MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648034/13:46
GOPROOphthis ubuntu 12.04 ,wcdma 3g modem , can,t auto  detect add network manager13:46
smeertso guys, about this13:46
smeerthttp://pastebin.com/4uzFZWSt13:46
ducassenetcrash: ok, now do 'sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.13*'13:46
smeertthe two drives make the one md126? How can i be sure?13:47
smeertor how can i use the md126?13:48
smeertand why is it so much smaller than the drives itself?13:48
netcrashducasse: MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648043/13:48
ducassesmeert: are you using fakeraid?13:48
smeertducasse: its a motherboard integrated raid13:49
smeertso i guess its fakeraid?13:49
rommelsmeert, that would be software raid13:49
ducassesmeert: yep. don't do that.13:49
smeertits only temporary13:50
smeerti just need to save files on that raid until i get the real raid-card13:50
smeertin the distant future :)13:50
ivo_hey guys I just iunstalled openjdkj-9-jre to play minecraft, but it didn't work, I apt purged it and installed the default-jre. now minecraft works but there is also /etc/java-9-openjdk/ lef ....13:50
ducassenetcrash: try what MonkeyDust suggested 'sudo aptitude purge ~c'13:51
ivo_why ist this folder left over13:51
ivo_is there some other way to completely remove installed apps13:51
ducassesmeert: i'd *strongly* advice you to use sw raid instead13:51
rommelsmeert, there is nothing wrong but it does make things a bit more complicated to configure and the overhead will make it a bit slower13:51
smeertducasse: true13:51
smeertyeah i thought it wasa real raid but i wasnt13:52
MonkeyDustnetcrash  can you install synaptic13:52
rommelsmeert, just backup your imporant files13:52
smeertrommel: its an empty machine basically13:52
smeertits just not here13:52
smeertand i need to copy some files over13:53
rommelsmeert, well then dont make more of nothing then nothing really is13:53
thatrandomguy83Does anyone know how to get rid of the "lvmetad is not active" when booting up?13:53
smeertrommel: well i still need to temporarily use the space and copy some files to it13:53
netcrashMonkeyDust: what is the ~c ? ducasse13:54
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648057/13:54
ducassenetcrash: "config remaining"13:54
netcrashI didn't see when you shown that, will try it now13:54
rommelsmeert, well i have lost the actual question...lol13:54
smeertrommel: how do i use it :)13:55
rommelmount it like any device13:55
smeerti need to make a partition etc13:55
rommelell then you would need to do that first13:55
rommelhow did you create this device13:56
MonkeyDustnetcrash  say Yes13:56
MonkeyDusthit Yes, rather13:56
netcrashMonkeyDust: done, I'm deleting the initrd.3-13-x so I can try it again13:56
smeertmkdir /files && fdisk /dev/md126 -> n ?13:57
smeertrommel: i did not. ubuntu setup found it13:57
smeertrommel: or well, the raid itself is created from raid-estup on boot13:57
rommelsmeert, i am a little confused as to what you are doing but you first need to partition a device then create a fs on it then you can create a directory13:58
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse no go ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648095/13:58
smeertrommel: yes that i know, my question is how to :)13:58
rommelfdisk13:58
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse going to try synaptic13:58
MonkeyDustnetcrash  or Bleachbit13:59
BluesKajHi folks13:59
rommelsmeert, are you in a desktop env or cli14:00
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse using the quick search on synaptic it didn't find anything14:00
netcrashgoing for Bleachbit14:00
smeertrommel: ssh only, so cli14:00
rommelsmeert, so is he device seen in /dev14:01
rommelis it there14:01
smeertyes14:02
rommelok so running fdisk /dev/md12614:02
rommelwhat do you see14:02
rommellook normal to you?14:03
smeertyes14:04
smeertaccording to i'v never used fdisk :)14:05
smeertso pretty normal ;)14:05
rommelthen you can partition it then create your fs and so on. treat it as you would any device14:05
rommelwell what have you used... fdisk is pretty standard i think14:06
smeerti've had not much have to do with system changes. mostly done on the install14:06
smeertbut now i've got14:07
smeertDevice       Start        End    Sectors  Size Type14:07
smeert/dev/md126p1  2048 5567512542 5567510495  2.6T Linux filesystem14:07
rommelso it has a partition already14:07
rommeland apparently a fs14:07
smeerti made it14:08
smeerti hit 'n' to make new partition14:08
rommelah14:08
smeertno i should hit 'w' to save it and then mkfs.ext4 /dev/md126  ?14:08
rommelok so save ad exit to write the changes then you can mkfs.whatever14:09
smeertFound a gpt partition table in /dev/md12614:11
smeertProceed anyway? (y,n)14:11
smeertdoes this matter?14:11
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rommelwell not sure if it will this is not your / root device this si a storage device right14:12
intrfearHello, I need to dual boot ubuntu and windows10, I would like to create a partition that could be shared between the two operating systems, what would be the best filesystem format for this partition?14:12
smeertit will not be root at the moment14:13
smeertintrfear: ntfs?14:13
intrfearsmeert: ok thats what I figured thx14:13
rommelsmeert, i mean gpt is needed to see a drive that size so it really doesnt matter14:14
Black_knighti suggest ntfs or fts14:16
smeertrommel: what do you meen seen by what?14:16
smeertanyway, i can just hit y?14:17
Black_knightit is file system which is easily understand by windows and ubuntu or any linuc os14:17
Black_knightlinux*14:17
intrfearAnd what size for the windows 10 OS partition?  im thinking 40GB should be plenty as I dont use much software14:17
rommelsmeert, yes14:17
rommelthere was a limit on drive size for mbr14:17
kang0Anyone can help me to create bootable Linux pen drive14:19
melonsound28how to remove windows 10 which is mounted next to the linux14:19
kang0How to add w10 in my tablet14:19
smeertthen i just mount it?14:19
rommelsmeert, yeah... it is a drive14:20
Black_knightyep14:21
Black_knightkang0: first download ubuntu14:21
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse nothing worked14:21
Black_knightthan use uniboot software(freely available) and select pendrive and iso file14:22
Black_knightand press submit and after 10 min bootable ubuntu pendrive is ready14:22
MonkeyDustnetcrash  after this one, i'm out of ideas ... install this 3rd party app and use Janitor ... https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public?preview=ubuntu-tweak_0.8.7-1~getdeb2~xenial_all.deb14:22
kang0What's function of uniboot14:22
Black_knightuniboot is software to create bootable pendrive14:22
Black_knightfor any os14:22
Black_knightfrom debain, redhut,mac to windows14:23
netcrashMonkeyDust: how is the initrd image generated?14:23
Black_knightand it is free and avilable for mac,windows and linux14:23
Black_knightit is created by uniboot directly14:23
smeertrommel: so okay, i got it mounted14:23
MonkeyDustnetcrash  that's beyond my knowledge14:23
smeertshold i use rsycn or scp to move files from a computer to this one?14:23
Black_knightscp14:24
smeertand how do i keep permissions and groups?14:24
LordNelthonI'm trying ubuntu in virtualbox, but when I reach this stage https://puu.sh/sSTj4/bc58d95b03.png it seems the system does not recognise the password input. Sometimes I get a clear purple screen and if I type the password and enter it works14:24
kang0Someone said me rufcus; what's that site for?14:24
Black_knightit is much more easy than rsycn14:24
ducassesmeert: use rsync14:24
smeertBlack_knight: why scp?14:24
Black_knightgo to setting and user and give the permission simple14:24
rommeleither one will work14:24
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse Thanks for your help , I'll see if I can discover how to solve this.14:24
smeertBlack_knight: does it keep permissions?14:25
rommelsmeert, are you cp'ing an entire system... like operating linux install over to this14:26
rommelif you are use rsync14:26
smeertno im just making a backup of the files while upgrade the computer itself14:26
rommelthen what ever you want ... just -r in scp to preserve permissions i think... use man to verify14:28
smeertheh, man command not found14:29
rommelwhaa14:30
intrfearso the people in #windows are telling me dual-booting is a thing of the past and that if I want to use windows and linux I should just VM.  I only use linux for fun, and will need windows 10 for school, so would it be best to install just win10 and run linux in a VM within windows?14:30
smeertrommel: well -r does a recursive copy14:30
* intrfear is sad to see his linux only laptop go way of the darkside14:30
smeertso i guess rsycn is my thing here14:31
rommelsmeert, well scp will work too... -rp would accomplish this i think but i am not 100% i honestly have nothing worth baking up14:32
smeertheh14:33
smeertwell -r only keeps times and dates, -p does a recursive copy, none of them seem to copy the userdata14:33
ducasseintrfear: there's nothing wrong with dualbooting if you want that?14:35
intrfearducasse: yeh, ive dualbooted in the past and never had a problem with it, but if I could run win10 as a virtual machine from within Ubuntu that would be even better14:39
intrfeari would much rather not have to install windows officialy14:39
korososomeone can help me plz for that : /etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 1: Bad configuration option: \357\273\27714:39
intrfearim just worried that someting like autocad may crawl in a VM within ubuntu14:39
ivo_hey guys I just iunstalled openjdkj-9-jre to play minecraft, but it didn't work, I apt purged it and installed the default-jre. now minecraft works but there is also /etc/java-9-openjdk/ leftover .... is ther other way to completely remove the package14:39
korosowhats mean 357\273\27714:40
smeertdamnit im so shy using anything14:41
ducassekoroso: pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config14:41
smeerttell me one more thing14:41
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smeertwhat credentials to use? i run rsync as root or some backup-user?14:42
rommelrsync -av14:42
ducassesmeert: you run it with the privileges you need to copy the files14:42
rommelso run it as root14:43
korosoit's done : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648309/14:44
ducassekoroso: where/how did you get that error?14:45
netcrashWhat's this directory used for /var/lib/initramfs-tools ?14:48
netcrashMonkeyDust: found this directory with 3.13 entry's /var/lib/initramfs-tools14:49
korososhell  : systemctl status service ssh14:49
MonkeyDustnetcrash  pastebin the output of   ls -l /var/lib/initramfs-tools/14:51
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse I executed a different find on the system and found kernel entry's in /var/lib/initramfs-tools/ 3.13 I deleted them and the initrd images in /boot and that solved the issue14:52
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse I had this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648353/, now it's all deleted14:53
netcrashMonkeyDust: ducasse thanks14:53
ducassenetcrash: good, so it works normally again?14:53
netcrashducasse: yes14:54
smeertdoes it matter with rsync if i use the rsync command on the computer FROM im copying or if i run it from the computer im copying TO?14:54
ducassesmeert: no, not really.14:55
jpdsmeert: no14:55
MonkeyDustnetcrash  glad it's solved, /me off, Motörhead tribute band gig14:55
smeertokies, so i only need to install rsync on the machine im copying to14:55
korosoi cant remove openssh-server14:56
ducassekoroso: which ubuntu version?14:56
korosoyes14:56
korosoi'm on lubuntu14:56
korosoi've installed Kubunu then lubuntu desktop14:57
smeerthmm15:01
smeertrsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at main.c(674)15:01
smeerttrying to run rsync here15:01
smeertdo i need to have rsync installed on both compurers?15:02
smeertcomputers*15:02
netcrashMonkeyDust: good show15:07
skinuxAnyone awake and can help with this? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2346761&p=13584270#post1358427015:10
nos09how do i remove 's' - drwxrws---  7 git git 4096 Dec 18 14:52 demo.git15:15
nos09its stickybit right?15:15
Marqeaux215:15
MarqeauxOops... sorry!15:16
MarqeauxHi everyone....15:16
EriC^^nos09: chmod -s /path/to/dir15:16
EriC^^nos09: it's the setguid bit15:16
nos09EriC^^: to turn off?15:17
EriC^^nos09: yes15:17
nos09EriC^^: thanks15:17
EriC^^it means whatever user creates a file in that dir it'll have the dir's group as the group15:17
EriC^^nos09: no problem15:18
korosoducasse do you have any ideas about my pb?15:18
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Baiduacarrillo, hi15:26
Baiduaau, godd15:26
korososomeone can help me plz for that : /etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 1: Bad configuration option: \357\273\27715:28
korosoon sshd_config no error15:28
RajRajRajhii am logged in through ubuntu now :)15:29
korosoProblem appared when i try to change listen port15:29
korosoon sshd_config15:29
climber386hi, i'm tring to rebuild ubuntu 14.04 LTS dvd-iso with new kernel 4.4.8 but when i boot i've got this error message "(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system". what's wrong?15:32
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korosonoone :/15:40
intrfearwhat is the best virtual machine software for running windows within ubuntu?15:42
Baiduhow can i alert someone for my reply?15:43
Baidudreamon_, hi15:43
tony_intrfear wine and virtualbox work well15:43
Baidutony_, can we talk?15:44
tony_sure you can pm me15:44
Baidutony_, i want to check if there are any alert sound for this messge?15:45
Baidutony_, or my name is highlighted..15:45
tony_oh15:45
tony_do you want me to highlight you or pm you15:45
tony_Baidu15:45
Baidutony_, yes yes how to send this kind of message?15:46
jamesrleimerhi15:48
che2hi15:51
intrfear.part15:54
intrfearoops15:54
coolHi everybody!15:57
JWU42googlefu letting me down - can you manage a box with multiple IPs with UFW (i.e., forward port 53 to a specific IP versus 0.0.0.0) ?16:00
JWU42I mean to say - allow not forward - no NAT16:00
ducasseJWU42: you can specify the interface in the rule16:07
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kabalihello16:07
JWU42ducasse: I'll mess with it - figured as much16:10
JWU42thanks16:10
JWU42ducasse: well this is just one NIC with multiple IPs16:11
JWU42typical box with a /2916:11
blackbird1Hi, is there a command line that compute the sha1rsa signature of a file ?16:12
ducasseJWU42: what exactly are you trying to do?16:12
JWU42run (for example) a DNS serve ron a specific IP16:13
JWU42server has 6 IPs16:13
JWU42say 10.1.1.121-12616:14
JWU42runs on .121 and I want to run the DNS on .12516:14
JWU42and only allow 53 to .125 as an example16:14
JWU42or ntp on 123 just to .12516:15
JWU42again - no NAT so apologize for the 10. example16:15
JWU42all public IPs16:15
tony_blackbird1 I think you can do sha1sum file16:16
tony_http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man1/sha1sum.1.html16:17
borkGot disconnected from my wifi bc. router powered down. Upon repowering my wifi (using network manager) can only see a fraction of the avail. wireless (some kind of frequency cap?) - issue is persistent. -> I cannot see or connect to my home router. Any thoughts?16:18
blackbird1tony_, sha1sum gives only the sha1 sum16:19
blackbird1tony_, I have a file that his ans1 hash is :16:21
blackbird113:d=1  hl=2 l=  20 prim: OCTET STRING      [HEX DUMP]:AA6AC1E77ACD0DDD617B8A5659711831A70D86E016:21
blackbird1tony_, but the 'sha1sum <the-same-file>' gives another hash that is different of: AA6AC1E77ACD0DDD617B8A5659711831A70D86E016:22
blackbird1tony_, I think because the encryption method is sha1rsa16:23
swenssonI've just installed openVPN, anyone have any documentation / recommendations on how to make it secure?16:26
tony_ah16:27
rommelhttps://www.google.com/search?q=securing+openvpn+in+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-816:27
rommelgoogle seems to know swensson16:28
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lueeveeDoes unity still have the amazon thing enabled by default?16:46
ivo_hey guys I just iunstalled openjdkj-9-jre to play minecraft, but it didn't work, I apt purged it and installed the default-jre. now minecraft works but there is also /etc/java-9-openjdk/ leftover .... is ther other way to completely remove the package16:46
lueeveeCant you just rm it?16:46
GeoHi - tried installing ubuntu to a mirror'd raid. It got to the end, and said grub-install failed (no further info). Now, I can't boot to the old working disks, nor the new disks. Can anyone help?16:47
ivo_yes I can16:47
ivo_but it is strange that it remains after I purge it16:47
lueeveeivo_ sounds about right for Java to be fair.16:47
blackbird1lueevee, How did you install it ?16:48
ivo_this sux, how can I be sure it does what it says, when I can clearly see it doesn't16:48
lauritzt[m]lueevee: Not on a fresh install of 16.04 or 16.1016:49
lueeveeblackbird1 I havent, yet... lauritzt[m] gotchya. Thanks!16:49
GeoHi - tried installing ubuntu to a mirror'd raid. It got to the end, and said grub-install failed (no further info). Now, I can't boot to the old working disks, nor the new disks. Can anyone suggest where/how to start on fixing?16:50
blackbird1Geo, try to fix the grub16:51
Geook- suggestions on how?16:52
zzero1Question I installed ubuntu 16.0.4 x86 in vbox with an ext4 /boot and / also ext4 gpt. I transferred to a  non uefi system. I cant seem to boot grub. I tried to install on /dev/sda and toggle boot flag but I had a message Checking nvram instead of the grub and then immediate reboot. I used a usb drive that had grub installed and I was able to start grub with set root,prefix, insmod16:52
zzero1 I created a separate fat32 partition with boot flag and installed grub there. But now  the bios say's no bootable device found16:53
zzero1any ideas ?16:53
cfhowletttransfering a vbox to an actual machine has/is an uncertain proposition.  some reason you can't do a normal installation, zzero116:54
someone235Hi, I have a weird issue. Sometimes my external hard drive becomes read only, and then I remove and reattach it, and then it becomes writable again. Someone knows how to fix this?16:54
blackbird1Geo, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd16:55
zzero1cfhowlett: I fixed everything else16:56
kang0What's grub16:57
kang0And when it's required16:57
kang0Which cases16:57
cfhowlett!grub | kang016:57
ubottukang0: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:57
kang0What's boot manager16:58
n0name\join test16:58
kang0What's difference between Ubuntu and debian16:58
zzero1helps the computer to start the os16:58
cfhowlettkang0, suggest you go to your library and read a linux book.  this is not a tutorial channel16:59
Amm0nzzero1, to use BIOS with GPT you need a BIOS boot partition too. Do you really need gpt?16:59
zzero12 tb drive16:59
kang0So grub required for Ubuntu?17:00
kang0Start17:00
gswallow!lilo | kang017:01
ubottukang0: lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.17:01
OerHekskang0, yes, grub is the bootloader17:01
OerHekslol lilo, unfashionable17:01
kang0What's  equivalent boot loader forWindows?17:01
cfhowlettkang0, explain exactly what your end goal is.17:02
zzero1Amm0n: I shrinked my /boot and I created a fat32 with bios boot flag from gparted. I used that to install grub17:02
zzero1but no luck17:02
OerHeksnot sure windows has a bootloader, ask in ##windows?17:02
kang0I am confused whether I need grub or not17:02
cfhowlett!details | kang0,17:03
ubottukang0,: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.17:03
pac1Hi.  I'm trying to set up a usb/ethernet connection to a raspberry pi-zero.  There are instructions on the net that work for windows and MACOS, but a lack of good information on doing it with Ubuntu.  On ubuntu each time the pi-zero boots, a new  device shows up like: enp0s20u9u1u3 (1E:05:08:85:51:E2) for device and Ethernet id.  The device does not provide dhcp services so the pi zero gets 169.254.228.218 for an ip address and is17:03
pac1not contactable17:03
Amm0nzzero1, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/BIOS-installation.html17:03
zzero1kang0: if you use ubuntu you probably already use it17:03
OerHekskang0, yes you do, grub is the only way to make 2 kernels bootable.17:03
koffeinfriedhofyou may try systemd-boot if you want to avoid grub2. but I dunno if it works with ubuntu17:03
gswallowThere's a systemd boot loader now?  Lunacy.17:03
OerHeks systemd-boot, previously called gummiboot, is a simple UEFI boot manager which executes configured EFI images17:04
pac1any advice on what to read up on to get a stable virtual ethernet device on the ubuntu side, that will provide dhcp services to so the dhcpcd on the pi zero can get a proper address?17:04
OerHeksi would not try that one17:04
GeoHi - tried installing ubuntu to a mirror'd raid. It got to the end, and said grub-install failed (no further info). Now, I can't boot to the old working disks, nor the new disks. From a live cd, I've used fdisk to make sure the bootable partitions are marked as such. Can anyone suggest where/how to start on fixing?17:05
EriC^^Geo: pastebin sudo parted -l17:05
EriC^^zzero1: also pastebin sudo parted -l17:05
zzero1yes17:06
zzero1I got to boot from live cd17:06
EriC^^ok17:06
Geook, booting the live cd, one moment please17:07
Geoand related but unrelated, if i mark two differnet drives as bootable, i should be able to pick from both those drives at boot, correct?17:12
GeoEriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/2364901617:14
Guy1524hey guys, I am using ubuntu 16.04 with radeon open source drivers for my radeon hd 5450.  In war thunder I get many visual artifacts (trees and explosions are all blue, planes are white, and the sky is a bunch of weird colors, i assume this has to do with opengl driver bugs17:14
Guy1524so would updating mesa help?17:14
Guy1524if so, how do I update mesa17:14
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Guy1524I currently have mesa 13.117:17
Guy1524this is because I installed gallium nine for wine17:17
Guy1524so I don't think upgrading mesa would help much17:18
Guy1524since 13.1 is pretty new17:18
blackbird1sha1sum <file>: to compute the sha1 of the file. What's the command to compute sha1rsa (sha1WithRSAEncryption)17:18
blackbird1?17:18
Guy1524is there anything else I could try to stop all these weird artifacts from happening17:18
GeoEriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/2364901617:18
FritigernGuy1524: I have no Radeon, but you may want to look into this, dunno how helpful it will be through: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/12/stable-mesa-drivers-ubuntu-ppa17:20
EriC^^Geo: did you assemble the raid stuff?17:20
someone235Hi, I have a weird issue. Sometimes my external hard drive becomes read only, and then I remove and reattach it, and then it becomes writable again. Someone knows how to fix this?17:20
someone235when I do dmesg I see "rejecting I/O to offline device"17:20
Guy1524Fritigern: Thanks, but I already have mesa 13.1, custom patched with gallium nine, so I don't think I can upgrade unfortunately17:21
EriC^^Geo: linux doesn't need the bootable flag, it doesn't really matter if its set or not17:21
GeoEriC^^: I did before I installed, and I can from the live cd (the file system appears ther)17:21
Geo*the installed file system appears there17:21
EriC^^Geo: ok run sudo apt-get install mdadm17:21
EriC^^then sudo mdadm --assemble --scan17:21
Geoyes, that works from live cd17:21
nullbyte_how can i made a multiple boot for all linux systems with the same parameters like for one default e.g. Ubuntu ? e.g. nomodeset vga=0x317 net.ifnames=0 for all of them? for 4-5 Linux OSs17:22
nullbyte_when update-grub is runned17:22
OerHeksnullbyte_, <teraflops> edit /etc/default/grub ?17:23
GeoEriC^^, I've done a few things from this point, to include mounting it/chrooting and trying install-grub, but still get errors17:23
EriC^^Geo: what errors?17:23
EriC^^did you mount bind /sys and the rest of the virtual fs?17:24
Geohttp://askubuntu.com/questions/254491/failed-to-get-canonical-path-of-cow17:24
GeoI followed the instructions for 16.04 on this answer17:24
loslinuxhola17:24
GeoI'll do it again, they all blur together at this point17:24
EriC^^Geo: ok, mount the main partition and then run the command17:25
Amm0nzzero1, you need to create a 32kb-1MB BIOS Boot Partition with partition type 0xEF02 not FAT32. Then install grub on the whole device, not a partition.17:25
EriC^^for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done17:25
EriC^^Geo: then sudo chroot /mnt17:25
zzero1EriC^^: the / is mounted as sda2_crypt. I have a usb as sda now http://pastebin.com/jMR1dWqu17:25
loslinuxkepler17:26
loslinuxe17:26
loslinuxe17:26
loslinuxe17:26
loslinuxe17:26
loslinuxe17:26
GeoEriC^^: just ran updategrub217:26
Geono errors for those disks17:27
Geo(i've done this before as well- still didnt work after reboot)17:27
Geoany other ideas, EriC^^?17:31
EriC^^Geo: did you run grub-install --recheck /device/here ?17:32
Geoi think this is what gave me errors before17:32
Geofirst, it says 'installing for i386-platform'17:32
Geowhich seems wrong17:33
EriC^^that's nortmal17:33
EriC^^*normal17:33
Geook17:33
Geofile system ext2 doesnt support embedding17:33
sp3ckHi all, does anyone know what the hell post-up commands in /etc/network/interfaces don't work?? I'm trying to add some routes but it seems it doesn't honor it ...17:33
Geowhich is also wierd, b/c its ext417:33
sp3ckwhy*17:34
EriC^^Geo: did you give it the device or partition?17:34
Geoyes- /dev/md417:34
EriC^^zzero1: can you pastebin "sudo parted -l" something is a little off i think17:34
Geoand then it errors:17:34
Geo"will not proceed withh blocklists"17:34
EriC^^Geo: try /dev/sda17:34
EriC^^or whatever disk you have set to boot in the bios17:34
GeoI'm in my chroot right17:35
Geo*now17:35
Geodo I need to repeat with that drive instead?17:35
EriC^^yeah17:35
EriC^^i mean17:35
EriC^^just the grub-install command17:35
zzero1EriC^^:  http://pastebin.com/LHs767NB17:36
Geoso even though I'm chroot'd to drive 2, running grub-install for drive1 will still work?17:36
EriC^^Geo: they're all part of the same array right?17:36
Geono- I ran this on /dev/md4 - the array itself17:37
Geoshould it have been run on a component instead?17:37
EriC^^zzero1: ok, did you mount anything yet?17:37
EriC^^Geo: yes17:37
Geook, trying again17:38
zzero1EriC^^: anything else17:39
Geo...attempting to install grub to a disk w/ multiple partition labels17:39
EriC^^zzero1: what's mounted til now?17:39
zzero1the sda is a usb drive17:39
Geoembedding is not possible, but this is required for raid install17:39
Geoi did /dev/sdg ... should it have been /dev/sdg1?17:39
zzero1http://pastebin.com/1qPuqUV417:40
EriC^^Geo: no i think you should use the device17:40
Geome too... but im puzzled by that error17:40
EriC^^Geo: try another disk17:41
EriC^^zzero1: so you're chrooted?17:41
Geotrying the other...17:42
Geohttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153920517:42
Geomaybe this17:42
Geooh17:42
Geosdh worked17:42
Geo!!17:42
zzero1no but I mounted the root from initramfs mount using cryptsetup by hand  like this /sbin/cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb2 sda2_crypt17:42
Geoso what does that mean17:42
zzero1why the sdb17:42
Georeboot now?17:43
EriC^^zzero1: ok, so it's the actual install17:43
zzero1the usb drive messes the names17:43
zzero1yes17:43
EriC^^zzero1: type "cat /etc/fstab" and paste it17:43
EriC^^Geo: nice17:43
zzero1hold on17:43
EriC^^Geo: update-grub17:43
EriC^^ten reboot17:43
EriC^^*then17:43
Geodoh :(17:44
gebruikerhttp://arstechnica.com/security/2016/12/fedora-and-ubuntu-0days-show-that-hacking-desktop-linux-is-now-a-thing/ what can I do about this?17:44
zzero1http://pastebin.com/SBFB3XNH17:44
zzero1the root is supposed to be sda17:44
zzero1when there is no usb drive17:44
zzero1and I don't plan to use one17:44
EriC^^zzero1: ok, type sudo blkid /dev/sdb317:45
EriC^^zzero1: get the uuid and type sudo nano /etc/fstab17:45
EriC^^paste this line17:45
EriC^^UUID=0A87-44C2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       117:45
zzero1I use one now because I need the grub rescue prompt. cause I have installed grub in the usb and I use the grub rescue to boot17:45
EriC^^put your uuid instead of the one above17:46
zzero1http://pastebin.com/DAPx0WRt17:46
EriC^^zzero1: np, fstab uses the uuid, the naming doesn't matter17:47
EriC^^ok add the line with your uuid17:47
zzero1true but about the kernel root parameter ?17:47
EriC^^zzero1: it also uses uuid17:48
zzero1well that is useful to the computer :P17:48
zzero1I prefer to see what boots by name17:48
zzero1but that can change17:49
zzero1like here17:49
EriC^^can't help you there :P17:49
EriC^^just do "ls -l" and compare the uuid's17:50
EriC^^in grub17:50
Geook, redid, updated grub, rebooting...17:51
Geonope17:52
Geostill getting to initramfs ash shell17:52
EriC^^set the drive first in the boot order17:52
EriC^^what does it say before the shell drops?17:53
EriC^^zzero1: any progress?17:53
Geonothing17:53
EriC^^Geo: ok, first set the drive you put grub on as the first drive17:53
zzero1nope I should make the partition type 0xEF type instead of fat3217:54
zzero1I 'm looking for instructions17:54
EriC^^zzero1: that's the partition type not the filesystem17:54
zzero1with parted17:54
zzero1yeah17:54
EriC^^zzero1: i'm instructions, ask here :D17:54
Geopicked one of the two drives (not sure which is which)17:54
EriC^^zzero1: do sudo cgdisk /dev/sdX and change it17:54
GeoI see /dev/md4 clean, bla bla......17:54
Geobut it hangs there17:54
Geoshould i try the other one?17:54
GeoI'm not sure whivh one sdh was17:55
EriC^^sdh is the one that worked?17:55
Geothat i installed to, yes17:55
EriC^^try both i guess17:55
EriC^^it's the 750gb one17:55
EriC^^ata..blabla17:55
Geowierd- when i ctrl-ald-del'd, it flashed 'ubuntu16' for a second17:56
zzero1Hex code or GUID (L to show codes, Enter = ef02):17:56
zzero1enter17:56
Geook, the other drive just freezes, nothing happens (doesn't even leave the select screen)17:56
zzero1correct ?17:56
EriC^^you need ef0017:57
EriC^^zzero1: ^17:57
EriC^^Geo: ok, put the first one then17:57
EriC^^hold shift to get grub then press "e"17:57
EriC^^and go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ...quiet splash and remove quiet splash and add rootdelay=4017:58
zzero1then grub-install17:58
zzero1after the write17:58
EriC^^zzero1: no, there's some stuff left17:58
zzero1go on17:58
EriC^^zzero1: type sudo mkdir -p /boot/efi17:58
zzero1I 'm not in an efi system17:59
zzero1sure ?17:59
EriC^^zzero1: you should be17:59
zzero1no17:59
EriC^^or you dont want that?17:59
zzero1I have bios17:59
zzero1only17:59
EriC^^cant you switch to uefi?17:59
EriC^^aha17:59
zzero1and gpt because of a 2 tb drive17:59
Geook, done18:00
EriC^^zzero1: ok, you only need a 1mb partition then for grub18:00
Geof10 to boot?18:00
zzero1I cant use that 70 m ?18:00
EriC^^zzero1: shrink the fat32 one, and make a 1mb partition with the type ef0218:00
zzero1hold on18:00
Geo(got a blank screen)18:01
EriC^^zzero1: also, remove the stuff you put in fstab18:01
EriC^^zzero1: you can if you want18:01
Geooooh!18:01
Geoctrl--alt-f6 gave me a shell18:01
EriC^^Geo: try with "nomodeset" in the line as well18:02
Geowell, before i do anything else18:02
GeoI'm on the bash shell18:02
Geoso it has booted!18:02
zzero1I plan to18:02
zzero1remotely18:02
zzero1I have to leave in about 2 hours18:02
ticktockUbuntu is for the weak18:03
zzero1and I was hoping I would have unattended remote access to this system18:03
Geowhat interface is enp4s0?18:04
EriC^^Geo: ethernet18:04
GeoI've never seen that before, it seems to have replaced my eth018:04
EriC^^zzero1: did you remove it from fstab?18:04
Geois that new for 16?18:04
EriC^^Geo: yeah that's systemd notation18:05
zzero1the boot ?18:05
EriC^^predictable interface naming or something like that18:05
EriC^^zzero1: yeah the /boot/efi line18:05
zzero1there is no efi line18:05
zzero1in fstab18:05
zzero1only the /boot18:05
EriC^^zzero1: the one i asked you to add earlier18:05
EriC^^UUID=0A87-44C2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       118:05
zzero1damn18:06
zzero1I must sent you my local machine contents18:06
zzero1sorry18:06
EriC^^zzero1: i mean if you added it earlier, remove it18:07
EriC^^if you didn't add it nevermind18:07
zzero1I did not added it18:07
EriC^^ok, nevermind18:07
EriC^^did you make the ef02 partition?18:07
GeoEriC^^ thank you very much for your time18:08
EriC^^Geo: no problem18:08
zzero1ef0018:09
Geolots more to do to keep it this way, but at least its up18:09
Geohave a great day, many karma kudos to you18:09
EriC^^Geo: yeah18:09
Geohags18:09
Geo*d18:09
EriC^^Geo: you too18:09
EriC^^zzero1: ef0218:09
emilio[m]Posted a File: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/VApGbzFyKHblBCofSvJsjacI - VectorBugReport-1482084595686-emilio_matrix.org.zip (148KB)18:10
EriC^^zzero1: gpt + legacy needs a 1mb ef02 partition for grub to be installed to18:10
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zzero1done 0218:11
EriC^^zzero1: ok, try sudo partprobe18:11
zzero1I reinstalled grub in sdb18:11
EriC^^then sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb18:12
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makos2hello18:12
zzero1hi18:12
emilio[m]Solstag.matrix.org is trying to find me but not capable.? I am eabdow (username) and riot as @emilio.matrix.org.??18:13
zzero1no errors reported18:13
emilio[m]Thank's18:13
zzero1you were going to say about partprobe18:13
zzero1sth18:13
makos2guys can some18:13
EriC^^zzero1: nevermind18:13
zzero1reboot ?18:13
EriC^^zzero1: ok, try sudo update-grub18:13
zzero1done18:13
EriC^^zzero1: ok, try rebooting18:14
emilio[m]This is at cellphones18:14
makos2can some one tell me were i can find a hacking channel18:14
emilio[m]Android18:14
makos2hello18:14
squinty!alis | makos218:15
ubottumakos2: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"18:15
emilio[m]I found him as email but always offline18:15
ceibaltransformic18:15
ceibaltransformice18:15
makos2so cool18:16
zzero1I see light18:18
EriC^^is it purple?18:19
zzero1the checking nvram is sth grub related ?18:21
zzero1cause I think its efi related18:21
EriC^^i think so too18:21
shaddyjoin /#rust18:22
makos2000sup18:22
zzero1well18:22
zzero1I think I know what I have to do18:23
zzero1now18:24
EriC^^what's that?18:24
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zzero1EriC^^: now with my other new efi system I hate grub and any bootloader :P18:27
fujitsuok18:28
zzero1EriC^^:  hold I'm close to the light18:29
zzero1I can feel it18:29
zzero1in the end of the tunnel18:29
zhiiyatest18:31
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\9could this bot please be removed from this channel?18:33
zhiiyathanks all18:33
Baidusure. just for test18:33
\9this isn't the place to test irc bots18:33
\9pretty sure there's a channel for that18:34
Baidu\9,  XD sorry for that18:34
zzero1damn it the the sda has become sdb permanently18:34
zzero1chroot18:34
zzero1from live cd18:34
\9zzero1: what's wrong with that?18:34
\9the labeling is pretty arbitrary18:35
pavlosBaidu, try #test for testing18:35
zzero1I 'm not gonna have the the usb18:35
zzero1and I fear grub related errors18:35
Baidupavlos, thanks for that.18:35
theparadoxer02Any vnc viewer for linux ?18:38
zzero1EriC^^: thanks a lot18:39
EriC^^zzero1: no problem18:39
pavlostheparadoxer02, there is vncviewer, https://linux.die.net/man/1/vncviewer18:40
cadeskywalker_thelion_: remmina18:40
zzero1pavlos surname if I may ?18:40
pavloszzero1, it is greek18:41
zzero1I know18:41
cadeskywalkertheparadoxer02: remmina18:41
zzero1and I ask if I may18:41
zzero1R*S ?18:42
pavloszzero1, surname comes from Andros, of a famous philosopher18:42
zzero1okay18:42
zzero1sorry18:42
DigitalIceCreamtheparadoxer02, remmina is really good nd it supports a lot of other protocals too18:42
zzero1I thought you could be someone I know in the linux local community18:43
pavloszzero1, I'm not in Greece, I'm in Phoenix, AZ18:43
zzero1your name tells an other story18:44
theparadoxer02DigitalIceCream: i am not able to congigure18:44
theparadoxer02It is showing nad file descripter18:44
DigitalIceCreamtheparadoxer02, thats odd18:46
theparadoxer02Bad*18:46
DigitalIceCreamtheparadoxer02, is it giving you that error when you run the program, or when you try to connect?18:48
borkcould networkmanager be messing with my NIC channel access?18:48
gebruiker!grsecurity18:49
theparadoxer02When i clicked on 'new' it has 5 options whuch onw should i choose?18:50
theparadoxer02Vnc virtual network computing or or vnc incoming connection ?18:51
DigitalIceCreamtheparadoxer02, should be Virtual Network Computing18:52
theparadoxer02Its showing unknown autjentication scheme18:54
DigitalIceCreamtheparadoxer02, have you set the smbpasswd on the server?18:55
DigitalIceCreamtheparadoxer02, soryy *vncpasswd18:56
DigitalIceCreamtheparadoxer02, also make sure encryption is enabled on the client18:58
miczacHi, I'm trying to figure out the routes I'd need on a server with multiple NICs without IP-forwarding enabled in the kernel. Is that possible?18:59
_bartHi people, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a sony vaio laptop, but I'm stuck at this: https://d17oy1vhnax1f7.cloudfront.net/items/3f0k2g1f3Y390n3n1w3a/IMG_20161218_200647173_HDR.jpg?v=0f8a93a819:09
_bartany ideas on what to do?19:09
bekks_bart: Continue and install grub later?19:11
_bartbekks: ok I will choose continue without a bootloader19:12
_barthow to install grub if I can't boot? through the live cd?19:12
monstercohi everyone - we have a portal that required daphne which required us to go to Ubuntu 8 from 7. Our programmer change sysvinit to initd or vice versa....besides the point. Now, we are seeing TWO cron processes running which of course f*ks up the whol system as everything is being done twice. Where can I look for sign of trouble?19:14
bekks_bart: yes.19:14
bekksmonsterco: Everything older than 12.04.5 isnt supported anymore.19:14
monstercoI see this two:19:15
_bartbekks: I'm a total noob, how do I set up grub?19:15
monstercoroot     14050  0.0  0.0  48860  1464 ?        S    13:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/CRON19:15
monstercoroot     14051  0.0  0.0  48860  1460 ?        S    13:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/CRON19:15
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bekks_bart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting19:15
bekksmonsterco: Which Ubuntu version are you on?19:15
monstercobekks - sorry, it's debian 819:15
bekksmonsterco: So please proceed to the debian support, this is Ubuntu support only.19:16
monstercotnx sorry19:16
_bartoh wow I just started up without the live cd and it booted to ubuntu!19:17
_barthow is that possible19:17
NXLXHELLO19:19
_bartNXLX: HI19:20
NXLX19:20
_bartOK now I have about half of the available disk space I should have though, this is what I see : http://postimg.org/image/p00amf0kt19:23
NXLXxit19:23
NXLXexit19:23
_bart100 GB mounted to /, but I should be able to have about 100 more19:23
_bartcan I somehow add the extra space?19:25
theparadoxer02Do i have to log into the hexchat everytime i open it?19:28
bekkstheparadoxer02: you dont log into hexchat, you log into your freenode IRC account.19:28
bekkstheparadoxer02: And it is up to you wether you want to do that - in most cases you want to.19:29
theparadoxer02I mean i have joined many channels on freenode19:29
bekkstheparadoxer02: And?19:29
bekkstheparadoxer02: you can configure channels for autojoin if you want to.19:29
theparadoxer02So when i installed hexchat is again asking to join channel19:30
theparadoxer02Also the username19:31
theparadoxer02Do i have to register again19:31
bekkstheparadoxer02: Unless you configure hexchat to save those credentials, you need to enter them manually.19:32
theparadoxer02Okay19:34
_bartHi people, how do I use these disk drives I see listed: http://postimg.org/image/p00amf0kt19:58
\9_bart: type 'lsblk' in console19:59
rdh_bart, you are using them, they are mounted where "Mounted on" says19:59
_bartrdh, \9: thanks but I have only 100GB mounted, am I not missing some space?20:05
_bartI'll paste the lsblk stuff, just a sec20:06
_barthttp://pastie.org/1098383620:07
studio-user162hi there! i am trying to recover grub with boot-repair tool. when I try to run it, it says I booted from UEFI so he needs a 100mb partition with boot flag. When I do that, it says now GPT detected, and that I need a BIOS - root partition... I dont know what to do...20:14
_bartit seems like ubuntu installed twice?20:17
_bartwhy?20:17
Pelle`anyone else have problem with cifs freezing after computer has been in suspension/sleep? any workaround?20:18
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freqnastywhen i try to scp files from my laptop to my desktop i get the 'man in the middle' warning, how can i fix this?20:24
freqnastyim trying to scp some files from my laptop to my desktop but im getting connection refused20:30
freqnastyi have the address and port right, what could it be?20:30
freqnastyi can ssh in just fine20:30
saigefreqnasty: What is the command you are using?20:41
freqnastyscp -r -P 55 <file> <user>@<host>:<directory>20:43
freqnastyi cant even ssh in now20:44
freqnastyim getting connection refused20:44
saigeAre you using fail2ban or something like that which locks you out after a certain number of unsuccesful connection attempts?20:46
freqnastyno, but it was my firewall, i forgot to allow ssh20:46
freqnastythanks anyway20:46
saigelol, yeah, that will do it.20:46
saigeIs it still blocking scp?20:47
freqnastysaige: no :)20:50
luk3yxHello everyone. I was wondering what precautions I should take before mounting a USB with possibly malicious software.20:51
koffeinfriedhofluk3yx: why do you want to mount such a stick? Perhaps use an old unneeded pc with no network connection and no automount/autostart enabled?20:54
GlammobileDoes GIMP become quite easy to use for simple tasks once you've gotten used to it, or are there fairly objectively better programs for throwing together cruftwork simple pics? If so, what would be a better program for simple tasks?20:54
luk3yxkoffeinfriedhof: It possibly contains malware, maybe not even Linux malware. The idea is to check the contents. Read-only initramfs?20:55
coolpuppy9100% after you get used to GIMP menu structure it gets easier to use20:55
koffeinfriedhofI would prefer using an Live-Stick on that unneeded pc, yes. And do not install wine :)20:56
luk3yxNo wine.20:56
coolpuppy9i end up using GIMP a lot simply because it's commonly included on a lot of distros and it's not worth going and installing something with a more simple interface20:56
GlammobileI think the layering trips me up the most.20:57
luk3yxkoffeinfriedhof: Thank you for your advice. It most likely is innocent or contains Windows malware. Would a guest session help?20:57
GlammobileIt seems like it'd be thoroughly necessary for some tasks, and incredibly needlessly complex for simple things.20:58
koffeinfriedhofluk3yx: If you do not know what its on your stick I would not recommend using it with your current system. Just to be sure.20:58
luk3yxOkay.20:58
luk3yxIt seems so strange that innocently mounting and browsing the contents could compromise my system. (If Windows was my system, it wouldn't be.)20:59
koffeinfriedhofit would probably not...but I'm a bit paranoid due to "bad usb"-things.21:00
Hilikush21:01
luk3yxOkay.21:01
coolpuppy9@Glammobile you are exactly right about that with GIMP, but it is handy more often than not for me21:02
GlammobileAnd that's fairly easy to work around once you're used to it?21:02
coolpuppy9Yeah i don't really think about what I'm doing most of the time. It's just muscle memory21:03
GlammobileI guess my only concern about that is that I rarely have reason to make a pic.21:04
GlammobileLast time, I was in a game of Stars! and needed to cludge together a sitrep. Took forever.21:05
GlammobileThat it was ugly didn't matter since it was serviceable, but the lack of familiarity and practice was frustrating.21:05
coolpuppy9The default photo editor in Ubuntu 12+ (i think) can do most basic stuff21:06
luk3yxAgain, thank you for all your help and advice. I will be sure to proceed with caution.21:06
GlammobileOhei that might work.21:06
GlammobileWhat's it called?21:06
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=== Ryan is now known as Guest97160
Guest97160anyone here familiar with KVM virtualizing?21:09
coolpuppy9i honestly don't remember what the application is called, maybe someone else in here will21:09
pavlosyou mean, virt21:10
Guest97160yes21:10
Guest97160I'm trying to get some quick help21:10
coolpuppy9whats's ur question21:10
Guest97160I've got a Windows Guest running on my Ubuntu server. I can access the internet and everything through the guest, but I'm not able to host a server. I'm attempting to host a game server, but it never states that it's listening on that port21:11
Guest97160so, I'm unable to connect21:11
ikoniaif it's not listening - you will never connect21:11
chefkoch77hi all21:12
Guest97160I know that, I'm wondering why it's not listening.21:12
coolpuppy9straight kvm or are you using a gui/other interface like cloudmin21:12
Guest97160It's like it's not passing through or something21:12
pavlosGuest97160, is the a firewall blocking?21:12
ikoniaGuest97160: probably not starting....21:12
Guest97160No GUI21:12
ikoniapassing through ?21:12
Guest97160Firewall doesn't seem to be blocking it21:13
Guest97160On the server itself I'm running a server which works perfectly, it's just the VM that's having issues21:13
coolpuppy9are you getting a ip address on your network or a internal private NAT21:13
ikoniaGuest97160: try to explain again21:13
ikoniayou're mixing the situation a little in your description21:13
ikoniais the games server running on the physical host or the vm21:13
Guest97160Okay let me start over haha21:13
coolpuppy9e.g. are you bridging?21:14
pavlosGuest97160, can you use netstat to find ports LISTEN21:14
Guest97160I have a dedicated server with ubuntu installed. I have created a Windows Server VM. I used the default networking used by libvirt, and I'm able to connect to the internet on it. However, I'm not able to host a server because it's not being "pushed" out publicly21:14
Guest97160I've used netstat to find the listening ports, and it's not on there is the problem.21:15
ikoniaGuest97160: are you hosting the game server on th vm or the host21:15
ikonialets just be clear21:15
Guest97160on the VM21:15
ikoniaGuest97160: and the vm is running windows, right ?21:15
Guest97160yes21:15
ikoniaGuest97160: is the games server starting21:15
Guest97160yes21:15
ikoniaGuest97160: what interface is it listening on21:16
ikoniaor how do you configure the listening address21:16
compdocGuest97160, you can connect the guest directly to the lan, and not go thru the virtual net they create for you21:16
Guest97160well it's listening on 0.0.0.0:2701621:16
ikoniaGuest97160: ok - so that means it will be listening on the VM guest IP - can you connect to that port on the VM guest IP21:16
Guest97160compdoc: is that a better option. I attempted to use a bridge but it didn't work for some reason21:16
compdocGuest97160, do you have more than one nic?21:16
Guest97160ikonia: well the guest vm ip is not a public ip, it's part of a subnet created by libvirt21:17
ikoniaGuest97160: I know this21:17
ikoniaGuest97160: thats why I'm asking the question21:17
Guest97160compdoc: just one nic21:17
Guest97160ah okay21:17
Guest97160it's in a data center21:17
Guest97160How would bridged networking work?21:21
ikoniait wouldn't21:21
mordeoWhat's a common reason for a hw addr not showing up in the arp cache?  Both devices are on the same network and have the same subnet (255.255.255.0)21:21
ikoniaGuest97160: can you connect to that port on the internal network21:21
ikoniathats teh first question you need to answer to confirm the status21:21
pavlosGuest97160, this page has a lot of info ...https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking21:21
Guest97160what do you mean?21:21
ikoniaGuest97160: can you connect to the game server port on the internal VM network ip21:21
Guest97160I have no way of testing that21:22
ikoniayes you do21:22
Guest97160how?21:22
ikoniatelnet to the port from the ubuntu host to the ip / port of the guest21:22
Guest97160can you show me an example of how to do that?21:22
GlammobileThanks, folks!21:22
ikoniatelnet ip port21:23
ikoniaor21:23
ikonianc ip port21:23
pavlosGuest97160, telnet 10.0.2.15:4500021:23
ikoniano21:23
ikoniait's not :21:23
ikoniait's just a space21:23
pavlossorry21:23
Guest97160stuck trying21:24
Guest97160but I can ping it21:24
ikoniaGuest97160: ok - so it's not listening on that port/interface21:24
ikoniaGuest97160: so thats what you've got to fix first21:24
Guest97160jk I can't ping it21:24
ikoniaI suspect the game server is not even starting up properly21:24
Guest97160I believe it is because I tested it on my regular desktop and it started the exact same way and was working21:25
Guest97160I just think my networking is not right21:25
ikoniaGuest97160: it's not though21:25
ikoniaGuest97160: as you can't connect to the port21:25
ikoniaif it was listening on that IP/port, you'd be able to connect with telnet21:25
ikoniaas you can't either a.) something is blocking it b.) it's not starting on that interface21:25
Guest97160the host computer isn't a part of that network21:26
Guest97160so that's why i can't telnet into that21:26
bekks5Then you will not be able to connet at all.21:26
Guest97160it's a virtual network created by libvirt with a virtual interface21:26
ikoniaGuest97160: how are you connecting to it to manage it then21:26
pavlosGuest97160, can you give ubuntu ip and vm ip?21:26
ikoniaright, but the host must be on that network21:26
ikoniaor you wouldn't be able to connect to the internet from it, and you wouldn't be able to connect to the vm to manage it21:27
ikoniaso it must be part of that network21:27
Guest97160it's passing through the virtual "router"21:27
Guest97160cause I can ping: virbr021:27
ikoniaGuest97160: right, and the virtual router is an interface on your host21:27
Guest97160which is the default gateway and dhcp server for my VM21:27
ikoniaso the host must be able to access it21:27
Guest97160okay21:28
Guest97160it's all so confusing lol21:29
Guest97160actually the virtual network interface already forwards all ports for me21:30
ikonia...clearly not21:30
Guest97160from 1024 to 6553521:30
ikoniaas you can't connect to the game port21:30
ikoniaor it's not running21:30
bekksGuest97160: that would mean 64000 forwarding, are you sure ;)21:30
Guest97160is there a way to test another program?21:30
bekks*forwardings.21:30
Guest97160lol21:30
bekksGuest97160: Run the telnet test from within your VM.21:30
ikoniayou're not interested in another program21:30
ikoniayou're interested in the game server21:30
ikoniafix that21:30
ikoniaas you should be able to connec to that from your ubuntu host21:31
ikoniano forwarding or anything21:31
ikoniafix that first21:31
ikoniahell, can you connect to it from the windows VM21:31
ikoniathen there is no networking in play21:31
Guest97160telnet isn't available on windows apparently21:31
ikoniayes it is21:31
ikoniait's not just enabled by default21:31
Guest97160there I enabled it21:32
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OneFreakLPhello21:34
Guest97160should I just use bridged networking?21:34
ikoniaGuest97160: I'm going to stop helping you21:34
bekksGuest97160: you should run your telnet test from withing your vm.21:34
ikoniaGuest97160: you appear to ignore what's being told to you and just continuing on21:34
bekksGuest97160: And then, in case you cannot connect, you should fix your gameserver, since it isnt starting.21:34
Guest97160ikonia: I'm installing telnet21:34
Guest97160I'm very appreciative of your help, but I've been researching this since like 4am last night.21:36
ikoniathen you should be paying attention and doing what you're told, not running ahead21:36
ikoniaI'm out21:36
Guest97160lol okay?21:36
Guest97160sorry for being such a horrible person to you21:36
jamesrleimerhello21:36
compdocGuest97160, you have to manually create a bridge that also has an ip address for the host to use. takes some testing to get it right21:37
compdocI prefer two or more nics21:37
Guest97160okay21:38
Guest97160thanks compdoc21:38
schnel8=========D21:39
schnelnoooo21:39
schnelikonia why? :'(21:39
ikoniaschnel: because your offensive ascii art is not allowed or welcome21:40
schneloh sorry :x21:40
Guest97160schnel ikonia is in a bad mood21:41
schnelHow to create a channel?21:41
ikoniaschnel: I suggest you join #freenode if you need help using IRC21:41
OerHeksjust channel policy, Guest9716021:41
ikoniaGuest97160: no, I'm not in a bad mood,21:41
Guest97160yeah, but I still ruined ikonia's day21:42
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xar-schnel: /join #channel-name; et voila, you have a channel21:42
h9k__why is that offensive21:42
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\9because the op says it's offensive21:43
h9kfair enough21:43
\9it's quite rude for this channel anyway21:44
h9kjust realized it's a penis :D21:44
schnelthank you xar :)21:44
xar-I'm faily certain I got kicked yesterday cuz I laughed at a joke told by **someone else**21:44
h9ki prefer cowsy21:44
h9kcowsay*21:44
xar-I blame the christmas spirit ;)21:44
h9kyeah, SJW are everywhere21:45
Guest97160ikonia, does telnet use tcp or udp? cause my server is udp21:45
xar-yw schnel, do a /msg chanserv help, if you actually want to register the channel, administer it, etc.21:45
h9ktelnet is TCP21:45
xar-(of course, it needs to be a non-already-registered-channel that doesn't "belong" to anyone)21:46
schneloh21:46
xar-so how about them ubuntus (tries to get back on topic)21:46
bekksGuest97160: PAstebin "netstat -aon" from within your guest.21:46
\9h9k: i thought you were debating whether posting an ascii penis on a support channel is offensive. so i'd guess it was just a misunderstanding21:48
Guest97160bekks: http://pastebin.com/gQsSBAjg21:48
xar-meh we're all adults here, I chuckled, shrug21:49
bekksGuest97160: As can be clearly seen, your gameserver isnt running on port 45000. So fix it.21:49
Guest97160Okay21:49
xar-pro tip, `ss` is the better `netstat`21:49
Guest97160Can we ignore the fact that the gameserver isn't up for a moment?21:49
bekksGuest97160: No.21:49
Guest97160I have IIS server running now on Port 8021:50
Guest97160I'm unable to connect to that as well21:50
bekksDid you try to telnet from your host...?21:50
Guest97160my server was off also21:51
Guest97160which I didn't notice21:51
ikoniathis is turning into a pack of lies21:52
Guest97160pastebin.com/DeyVSST821:52
ikoniainfo is being provided21:52
ikoniayet the serer was "off"21:52
Guest97160bekks: you can see there that it is listening on 2701621:52
bekksGuest97160: In your pastebin nothing is listening on port 2701621:53
Guest97160pastebin.com/DeyVSST821:53
Guest97160http://pastebin.com/DeyVSST821:53
Guest97160sorry21:53
Guest97160The server wasn't on in the first one. That's my mistake21:53
bekksSo run that telnet test again...21:53
schneltkkk21:54
Tywarsyo21:54
Tywarsyo21:54
Tywarsyo21:54
Guest97160bekks: I'm wondering if that won't work because it's a UDP port rather than TCP21:54
Tywars8==============================================--)-.. -'''21:54
Tywarstest21:55
schnel:O21:55
mordeotywars, test back21:55
Tywarstest21:55
schneloffensive21:55
Tywars:D21:55
Ben64ikonia: still here?21:55
pavlosTywars, please use #test for testing21:55
ikoniaBen64: ooh yes21:55
schnel#test21:55
bekksGuest97160: Use: nc -u ipaddress portnumber21:55
Tywars#test21:55
ikoniasrr it21:55
Tywars:p21:55
schnel#test21:55
schnel#test21:55
schnel#test21:55
ikoniasorry about that21:55
pavlosTywars, please use #test for testing (/join #test)21:56
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Guest97160bekks: on the host machine?21:56
bekksGuest97160: Sure.21:56
Guest97160bekks: it's just hanging21:57
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Guest97160on the host machine I'm using the virbr0 ipaddress21:57
LordSesshomaruhey all, I'm attempting to connect a Damn Small client via SSH to my Ubuntu server and its telling me there are no matching ciphers, is there a way to enable some of the older ciphers (which is what DSL uses, I assume) on the ubuntu machine? Or am I simply screwed?21:57
Guest97160since it's a vlan21:58
bekksGuest97160: Run it again, using a port number which is definitily not in use.21:58
Guest97160bekks: same result21:58
ikoniaLordSesshomaru: change the sshd_config21:59
ikoniaLordSesshomaru: you can set the ciphers in use21:59
bekksGuest97160: and virbr0 provides NAT? You arent using bridged networking, correct?22:00
mordeoDoes device "A" need to know the hw addr of device "B" in order to ping it?22:01
ikoniamordeo: no22:01
ikoniathe router will deal with any mac translation22:01
Guest97160bekks: yes here's what's in the config file: <forward mode='nat'>       <nat>         <port start='1024' end='65535'/>       </nat>     </forward>22:01
ikoniait uses IP22:01
mordeoOkay, thanks22:01
mordeoSo when I ping the device, I get "Destination host unreachable"22:02
schnelguys22:02
schnelhow to download Blih ?22:02
mordeoI was going down a rabbit hole of different answers - starting back at the top now22:02
ikoniamordeo: just a basic networking failure22:03
ikoniamordeo: what is the exact ping command you are using22:03
pavlosmordeo, are A and B in same subnet?22:03
mordeo"ping filepi" is one example.  "ping 192.168.1.241" is the other example.22:04
mordeopavlos, yes.  255.255.255.022:04
ikoniamordeo: what is the IP of your host22:04
mordeoThe issue sporadically fixes itself... why makes it more frustrating22:04
mordeo192.168.1.24022:04
ikoniaso if it fixes itself22:04
ikoniathat suggests a bad cable/router22:04
ikoniaas the config is black and white22:04
dajomuanyone here using digikam?22:04
bekks\9: dajomu Why?22:05
ikoniadajomu: just ask the quetion22:05
OerHeksblih - The sound a Maori warrior makes when poking his tongue out to scare the enemy.22:05
dajomuahh. ok22:05
bekkshmm, where did that "9" came from...?22:05
\9bekks: ?22:05
Guest97160bekks: I just looked it up and I think I found it22:05
schnelOerHeks : i'm pretty sure that's not it :p22:06
Guest97160by default the virtual network blocks all incoming connections unless specified in iptables22:06
bekks\9: Sorry, it was a tab fail :)22:06
Guest97160so I think I'd need to make an iptables rule22:06
mordeothanks ikonia and pavlos22:06
Guest97160So I really need to just setup bridged networking for it to work better22:07
pavlosmordeo, are they pinging now?22:07
dajomuAfter digikam has scanned photos, should it not create an Mysql database on a location specified in the database settings?22:07
ikonia21:13 < Guest97160> Firewall doesn't seem to be blocking it22:07
mordeopavlos yes.  Additionally, the hw addr of device "B" is blank in my arp cache when this doesn't work22:08
Guest97160thanks for your help bekks!22:08
Guest97160and Ikonia. sorry for being rude22:08
ikoniamordeo: forget the hardware address22:08
ikoniamordeo: you seem to be focusing on something that really doesn't matter22:08
mordeoikonia, I don't have total access to my router, so I'm trying to rule out what I can actually control22:09
bekksGuest97160: So assumption "a)" was correct. Something was/is blocking traffic.22:09
mordeoI admit you're probably right and I should just put a second router behind it22:09
schnelwho uses Bluemix here?22:10
ikoniasecond router ??22:10
ikoniamordeo: why are you looking at second routers22:10
kode54I have a second router, but it's in a DMZ "plus" behind ISP equipment that I prefer not to act as my primary router22:11
mordeoIf the router ATT gave me is faulty, I'll put a second router behind it that I can actually control.  No?22:13
mordeoNot having any problems accessing the internet, it's just local network stuff22:13
mordeoGetting rid of the ATT uVerse modem/router is not an option22:13
kode54mordeo: ATT? same here22:13
kode54you can "DMZPlus" or similar to that feature22:13
Ben64if it's faulty, get them to give you a new one22:13
kode54Ben64: faulty/limited by design22:13
Ben64like can't ping devices on the network? no that is not normal22:14
ikoniamordeo: no22:14
kode54no22:14
ikoniamordeo: if the router you have is faulty, putting a second router behind will forward the fault from the first to the second22:14
kode54faulty for other reasons, but not being able to ping devices is not a fault22:14
Ben64yes it is22:14
kode54er22:15
kode54I mean22:15
ikoniait is if it's going up / down22:15
kode54I don't mean it's a permanent fault22:15
ikoniayes it is22:15
ikoniaif his hosts are going up down with no changes22:15
kode54oh22:15
mordeono changes that I'm aware of*22:15
kode54it's going up and down repeatedly? then it's a faulty device22:15
kode54sticking a router behind it won't help with that, but it may help keep his network sound internally, if they don't have to pull an IP from the ATT device22:15
Ben64but it's also not necessarily the router, could be the cable, could be the device(s) themselves22:15
mordeoWould changing the network topography be a cause?  As in, turning on/off an unmanaged switch?22:15
ikoniaas I said22:16
ikoniafaulty cable22:16
kode54or if you're turning off/on a switch with devices attached to it22:16
ikoniathere seems to be an alarming lack of desire to actually troubleshoot with people on this channel tonight22:16
Ben64i'd run an endless ping and watch for changes as i mess with stuff22:16
mordeodevices attached, but not relevant ones22:16
ikoniaand just race ahead to something random22:16
kode54I shouldn't be contributing to this conversation, I have nothing useful to say22:17
mordeore-wiring the house doesn't seem reasonable at this point22:17
Ben64the ethernet goes in the wall?22:17
mordeoand through the attic22:17
ikoniajust run a long cable22:18
ikoniato test22:18
Ben64move the thing next to the router and use a fresh cable22:18
Ben64or that, same thing basically22:18
ikoniaor even better, move the machine out of the attic to test another cable22:18
mordeothat makes sense22:18
ikoniaapply logic before buying a new router22:18
Ben64yay problem solving22:18
mordeowell I've got a spare router already, so not cost.  But I'll move some things around first22:19
* ikonia shakes head22:19
ikonia"hi guys, I need help with this problem" - 'sure do this' - "I'll ignore the info and just do other random things"22:19
Ben64my check engine light is on....  *puts duct tape over the light*     ...there, fixed!22:19
ikoniawhat is the point of even asking22:19
Geoanyone know where a user's imap mailbox is stored on the filesystem? I upgraded HDs, and have the old HD mounted- but since its the same computer, i can't use a traditional sych tool (that I know of) because the same host is pointed at the new, empty filesystem22:20
ikoniaGeo: depends on the imap server22:20
Geopostfix/dovecot22:20
ikoniaGeo: rsync22:20
ikoniaGeo: or 'cp"22:20
ikonia'cp'22:20
Geowhere, not how :)22:20
ikoniaGeo: look in the config - thats where it's defined22:20
ikoniaread the config22:20
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Geothere's nothing obvious in there I've seen... can you be any more specific?22:22
ikoniaGeo: pretty sure there will be something in there22:22
ikoniaGeo: the config file must specify where the imap directories are stored22:22
ikoniaor it won't know where to read them from22:22
GeoI have no doubt it does22:23
Geojust not obviously22:23
Geohence my question22:23
Ben64http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailLocation22:23
mordeoikonia, ben64 it can't be a cable issue if I'm also unable to ping from 1 wireless device to another, right?22:24
mordeoso it would have to be the router22:24
Ben64not necessarily22:25
mordeojust remember I ran that test yesterday...22:25
Geothanks- and of course, "mail_location setting in dovecot.conf is used if nothing else overrides it. " ... I have no mail_location setting22:25
Geothanks Ben6422:25
Geogrepd, looks like it got moved to 10-mail.conf22:26
Geoand looking at that file, it's filesize is 0 on the old filesystem22:27
Geohrm22:27
Ben64have you checked /var/mail22:27
Geothats what it was set to22:28
Geoand my user file is 0 bytes22:28
Geobut it looks like it is all hanging out in ~/Maildir22:28
aleksandar_yoyooyoy22:31
SyntaxErr0rHi22:32
GeoHrm... even my new test mails coming in aren't appearing22:33
Geohere we go22:34
GeoError: file_dotlock_create(/var/mail/geo) failed: Permission denied (euid=1000(geo) egid=1000(geo) missing +w perm: /var/mail, we're not in group 8(mail), dir owned by 0:8 mode=0775) (set mail_privileged_group=mail)22:34
rfpalguem do  brasil22:35
Ben64!br | rfp22:35
ubotturfp: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.22:35
Ben64Geo: you running dovecot as your user?22:36
Geonm, thats old22:36
Georoot, I would assume22:36
Ben64your error indicates otherwise22:36
Geono, it indicates that file wasn't there earlier, it's since been fixed22:37
Ben64no it doesn't indicate a missing file22:37
Geowell, whatever magic that was, it has been fixed22:37
Ben64you might want to consider not running your own mail server22:38
GeoI've been doing this for going on a decade now, but thank you for your support.22:38
Ben64that's even more worrying22:38
tony_make sure you don't have confidential political emails on there22:39
JamesPin font heck with Ubuntu 16.04 - Is there a fix to install 3rd party fonts yet?22:43
JamesPCause it's been over 6 months....and I see that I'm not the only confused by this.22:44
Ben64you can always install fonts22:44
schnitzI would like to randomly rename files in a directory, changing / overwriting the existing names before the suffix into a ramdom number22:44
Ben64schnitz: for what purpose22:45
\9JamesP: dump the fonts in ~/.fonts/ and run fc-cache22:45
JamesPI guess I'm too much of a newb to figure it out.  Tried the Font Manager... which reports its done the job, but it really hasn't22:46
schnitzBen64: I have a HD full of my own produced music. Under UbuntuStudio I found out, there is Batch Manipulation with Audacity. I programmed a NOISE / METAL filter array, now I want to open a new SC account, and I don't want the old filenames to show up, and audacity does not allow me to specify new file names, it uses the old ones and puts the files into another directory22:46
JamesPwill try that.  Thanks22:46
schnitzBen64: So I need a way to say "rename all files within this directory into some random string or increasing numbers"22:48
ghostmagHello fellows, I am using Ubuntu 16.06 with a Dualboot Windows 7. Both installed over UEFI. I tried to used WakeOnLan for the frist time and it did work - but Ubuntu wasn't able to use the LAN connection while WoL is activated in the UEFI22:50
ghostmagUbuntu was only able to use the normal LAN connection to get into the internet under these circumstances:22:51
pavlosschnitz, some help ... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7450818/rename-all-files-in-directory-from-filename-h-to-filename-half22:51
ghostmag1. I booted Windows first and the next time I booted Ubuntu22:51
\9for increasing numbers you could run python3 and type in «import os; for i, fn in enumerate(os.listdir('.')): os.rename(fn, str(i))«22:52
tgm4883ghostmag: 16.04*22:52
ghostmag2. I restarted the working Ubuntu. It just stopped working if I shut the system down and boot again22:52
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ghostmagtgm4883: You are right, sorry22:52
schnitzBen64: Awesome! Thx sooo much! Have a great day :-)22:53
arm1eHi, I have been testing snap package manager on otgher distros but get errors. Can anyone help22:54
Bashing-omarm1e:  Try asking in #snappy .22:55
arm1eta22:57
lapionDoes 16.04 prefer ipv4 over ipv6 so much that it refuses to use a profile in which ipv4 is the preferred protocol ?23:02
lapionin stead it will much rather create a new profile with only ipv6 in stead of using a profile where the user manually set ipv4 as required23:03
CrazyHI just upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04 64 bit. I'm using Gnome flashback session. I went to System tools --> System Setting --> Appearance --> Behavior --> Enable Workspaces == True. However, when I go to Workspace switcher and add more worksapces it doesn't work. It forgets the number that I set [ the number is 8 ] and never creates any extra workspaces :-( How can I fix this?23:04
srulii have a amd readeon rx460, system does not recognise it and only works with amd proprietary drivers, how can i get it to work with the open source drivers? the only reason i went for amd is the opensource23:13
ikoniasruli: do the open source drivers support it ?23:15
sruliikonia: hiw can i check that?23:16
ikoniaerr you should have checked this23:16
ikoniayou went for AMD beause it's open source....and you've not even checked if the card is supported by the open source driver23:16
sruliikonia: my mistake, just throught amd provides opensource for all new cards ... is there a way i can check if my card is supported?23:17
ikoniapull up the open source driver docs and look at the listed cards23:18
Bashing-omsruli: amdgpu-pri : per : http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/general-interest/11-amd-gpu-support-with-amdgpu-and-amdgpu-pro .23:18
sruliBashing-om: thats what i installed to get it to work... i thought its supported from the kernel and no need to install ~150mb drivers to get it to work..23:20
OerHeksstandard amdgpu supports it, in 16.10 ~ maybe not 60 hz in 4k23:21
Bashing-omsruli: Lots I do not know about the AMD drivers, but I would expect the amdgpu driver to work right out of the box - as default in the kernel .23:22
sruliBashing-om: it doesnt, how can i trouble shoot it?23:24
sruliwhere do i start?23:24
schnitzBen64: sorry to bother you again, checked all that, yes, understand, however, there is no notion of randomness there yet23:24
ikoniasruli: "it doesn't" doesn't really help explain the problem23:24
user01hi so for you client devices are you supposed to key one private ssh key per device/user combination or copy the same private key on all devices that you use as a client?23:24
OerHekson what linux version, sruli ?23:24
schnitzE.g. for file in *.png; do mv "$file" "${file/@1x.png/.png}"; done ... fine, but is there some command to generate a random number in bash? Instead of a fixed string?23:25
ikoniauser01: not sure what youre asking here23:25
jkoudysxenial; I used a special repo for mysql, and now every time I try to do an `apt install`, it fails saying "Setting up mysql-server-5.7" then complains I'm in a chroot, then policy-rc.d denies execution. http://pastie.org/1098388323:25
jkoudysI'm running on a chromebook that has ubuntu installed under a chroot using crouton23:26
ikoniajkoudys: sounds like you're used a broken ppa23:26
ikoniajkoudys: and there isn't ubuntu on the chromebook23:26
jkoudysthe thing is, mysql install upgrade works just fine; updates all my stuff23:26
jkoudysYeah there is23:26
ikoniait's not an official ubuntu build23:26
ikoniajkoudys: is there ? from where ?23:26
user01ikonia, so if i generate a key on my laptop user01, should i copy the private key to my desktop user01, my phone user01 etc . .. or should i generate a different ssh key for each device23:26
srulii upgraded to 16.04 to get it to work (froze in middle bricked, reinstalled) i have 3 screens, before installing the package i get 1080p res 2 screens mirrored, cannot change res, after installing the package from amd's site i have 3 independent screens as i want23:26
Bashing-omsruli: Most depnds on what release you are running .. and if 'fglrx' os a factot . Whar returns ' dpkg -l | grep fglrx ' ?23:27
ikoniauser01: thats up to you23:27
ikoniauser01: you manage the keys how you feel best23:27
jkoudysIt's installed on a chroot23:27
ikoniasome people use a master key, some people use per install23:27
ikoniajkoudys: no - then it's not an offiical install23:27
ikoniait's a hack23:27
ikoniathat hack is not supported here23:27
user01ikonia, wouldnt it be safer though to do separate, in case one device is compromised?23:27
ikoniait's normally done with a dodgy shell script process jkoudys, the guy who maintains that shell script can help23:27
ikoniauser01: depends on your perspective23:28
sruliBashing-om: no output for that command23:28
OerHeksthere is a #crouton support channel23:28
user01ikonia, if i just copy the contents of .ssh then to the other device that would do?23:29
Bashing-omsruli: No output in that case is a good thing . ' how about now ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?23:29
ikoniauser01: you just need the public/private keys, thats it23:29
ikonianothing else23:29
pavlosschnitz, echo $RANDOM23:30
user01ikonia, ok i thought ssh keys should be per user-device and pgp per user across devices23:30
sruliBashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/2365085223:30
schnitzpavlos oh wow great23:30
ikoniauser01: it's totally up to you how you manage keys23:30
ikoniauser01: many ways and pros/cons23:30
pavlosschnitz, number from 0..3276723:31
jkoudysI've seen plenty of stackoverflow questions for people with mysql update problems, but on docker builds. Sounds like the problem is more how the services restart inside a chroot23:31
ikoniajkoudys: your install is not supported here23:31
Bashing-omsruli: That says a driver " configuration: driver=amdgpu " is loaded . So what is the particular issue you are facing ?23:32
sruliBashing-om: that i only works after installing the ~150mb package from amd site, isnt it supposed to be suppoted in the kernel?23:32
schnitzpavlos ... right but how to I get that into my rename procedure in bash?23:33
ikoniasruli: pleae stop saying "it only works"23:33
schnitzpavlos "change all filenames to a random number"23:33
ikoniaexplain the actual problem23:33
schnitzpavlos using rename or bash23:33
sruliikonia: sorry i really dont know how to explain it better, question is - are the new amd cards supported in the kernel without needing to install packages from amd?23:34
ikoniasruli: the question is "what is the problem"23:34
ikoniasruli: no other question matters23:35
Bashing-omsruli: Yeah .. Mind ya, lots I do not know .. but I have seen that later cards with amdgpo-pro also need the vulcan SDK . A conflict now " what returns ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ; lsmod | grep amdgpu-pro ' ?23:36
OerHeksAMD provides a proprietary, binary userland driver called AMDGPU PRO, which works on top of the open-source AMDGPU ... so no.23:36
ikoniawe still don't know the problem23:37
ikoniabeyond "it doesn't work"23:37
ikoniaI want to know the problem before anything else23:37
sruliBashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/23650863 no putput the the amdgpu-pro23:37
OerHeksoh, true, as the standard amdgpu should work basicly.23:38
sruliOerHeks: not sure i understand, my question again do i need to install the packages from amd for it to work or should it be supported out of the box?23:40
ikoniasruli: what is the problem23:40
ikoniatell us the problem23:40
ChrismeisterDoes anyone know any Linux-compatible racing wheel with force feedback?23:41
Bashing-omsruli: No idea of how you generated that last log .. but it seems to show there is no GPU problem . So again .. what is the particular issue here ?23:43
Ben6423:06:55 T:18446744073501935920  NOTICE: GL_RENDERER = Mali-450 MP23:44
Ben64that isn't amd23:44
sruliBashing-om: you can see in the paste how i generated it, i think i am asking a simple question, do i need to install the amd packages for the card to work or should it be supported without?23:44
ikoniasruli: what is the problem23:45
ikoniasruli: explain the problem - or stop asking23:45
OerHeksandroid with kodi ?23:45
ikoniasorry t be blunt but you are messing us around here23:45
* OerHeks is baffled23:45
Bashing-omBen64: Oh what sharp eyes you have oh wise one .23:45
pavlosschnitz, see pm23:47
sruliikonia: i give up23:47
ikoniaok23:48
srulion another subject, i have a few machines running ubuntu-mate and are very slow (even after fresh install, unity was even slower) i ran a memtest which passed, i also ran a bonnie++ test but dont understand the results, can anyone take a look and see if it seems ok? https://pste.eu/p/wNBv.html (all the machines are i3 or i5 min 8gb ram)23:49
ikoniasruli: that means nothing to us23:49
srulihow can i start to check why its so slow? last week i was advised here to start by making a bonnie++ test23:50
ikoniayou need to understand if it's actually slow or visually slow23:51
sruliin htop i see cpu is at 0-2% all teh time yet to open caja takes about 10 seconds23:51
sruliikonia: i dont know how to check that, but "du -sch" on a ~300gb dir took about 10 minutes, i would guess thats actually not visually23:52
ikoniahow do you know23:52
ikoniait could do that in seconds and take a long time to render23:52
Ben64laptops generally are pretty slow, especially hard drive, but cpu too23:53
srulito render the text in the command line? ok basically i am asking where do i start looking my the system is slow?23:53
ra21vii am getting weired rendering issue in chrome. Where should i upload screenshot for sharing?23:54
lapionany one else having troubles with only getting ipv6 on boot even though profiles have been manually set to use ipv4 ?23:55
ikoniasruli: I'd be looking at your X org config23:55
Ben64lapion: explain your issue in detail23:55
sruliBen64: the lagging i get in these machines render them useless, i refuse to Capt that ubuntu needs more powerfull hardware the closed source alternatives23:55
sruliikonia: what should i be looking for?23:55
ikoniasruli: the config23:55
ikoniamake sure it's using your video cards properly23:55
Ben64sruli: ok so figure out what is making it slow23:56
lapionI have a system on which In nm-applet I set a static ipv4. however upon booting up nm-applet/networkmanager creates a new profile without ipv4 and oly ipv623:56
pavlossruli, this should take about 10 seconds, time sleep 10 Can you test on one machine?23:56
srulilol23:56
ikonia"time sleep"23:56
ikonia"time ls"23:57
ikoniayou'll get stats23:57
OerHeksawesome!23:57
lapionBen64, if I manually select the profile after booting ipv4 is active.. however only upon manually selecting the profile ipv4 is accepted23:57
lapionben64 is that sufficient detail ?23:58
ra21viwhere to paste image?23:59
Ben64lapion: probably to start. now wait to see if anyone has a suggestion23:59

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