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[00:59] <sintre> is there a way to remove a backport , installed one for gfx drivers to try and fix a konsole crashing , it updated some drivers but , the server takes like a minute to load headers
[00:59] <sintre> anooying
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[01:01] <DarinMiller> sintre: sudo software-properties-kde  
[01:01] <DarinMiller> Go to the Other Software tab and uncheck the backports PPA (and any other PPA you don't want to check).
[01:02] <DarinMiller> sintre: If you want to uninstall the ppa, use ppa purge.
[01:03] <sintre> thx , well as advised did the driver update
[01:04] <sintre> no go
[01:04] <DarinMiller> sintre: if you use ppa purge, it will remove all packages installed by the ppa (revert to the old ones). 
[01:04] <sintre> my mystery konsole remains
[01:04] <sintre> i'm just gonna;leave it open
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[01:04] <sintre> no just wanted that one backport for those drivers you recomended ealier gone , it hands the update for like a minute
[01:04] <sintre> it did upgrade
[01:05] <sintre> hangs sry
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[01:08] <sintre> https://thepasteb.in/p/vghOpqWjYORc3
[01:08] <sintre> pretty much identical
[01:08] <DarinMiller> sintre: Guessing here:  based on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1436973, you could try re-installing qtbase5-dev-tools
[01:09] <sintre> hmm yea perfeclty repoduced each time
[01:09] <sintre> crahs report one thing but after it does it , it won't lasaunch a new isntance except for a second
[01:10] <sintre> well sure i'll figure it out soon enough
[01:10] <sintre> and learn something along the way
[01:11] <DarinMiller> sintre: check system monitor to see if residual konsoles are still running and kill them with fire if they are.
[01:12] <sintre> what would it be named
[01:12] <DarinMiller> The above link implies a qt issue, maybe someone else has some ideas as I am fresh out.
[01:12] <sintre> konasole no shit
[01:12] <sintre> ary found it
[01:12] <DarinMiller> lol
[01:13] <sintre> what would you know
[01:13] <sintre> i have a konsole
[01:13] <sintre> atleast i have a work around now
[01:13] <sintre> wth is goin on though
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[01:13] <sintre> this is gettin wierd lol
[01:13] <DarinMiller> very good!
[01:14] <sintre> ahh some piece of mind thx alot darin
[01:15] <sintre> so we got the peices , so seems konsole isn't really quiting in the first lace
[01:15] <sintre> place
[01:15] <sintre> just telling me to crashes then hiding in my ram lol
[01:16] <DarinMiller> 16.04 had many issues like that when I 1st installed.  So many, I immediately installed the alpha version of 16.10 as it had the new packages that fixed most of my issues.
[01:16] <sintre> i tried 16.10 and plasma xcrashed almost every 10 seconds in install
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[01:17] <sintre> i get that i didn't get new drivers or packages updated , but the cross your fingers and hope you get there got old
[01:17] <DarinMiller> I can't recall if the crashing terminial was 16.04 or 15.10 on my boxes, but it sure was annoying.
[01:17] <sintre> yea , well atleast tem fix , which is a sigh of relief
[01:18] <sintre> especially linux lol
[01:18] <DarinMiller> with 16.10 and new packages, I strongly recommend the Nvidia ppa drivers.  They have some patches that improved stability on my older boxes.
[01:18] <sintre> i'
[01:18] <sintre> yea i got them on this one
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[01:19] <sintre> it the server is slow and hangs for a minute retrieving headers from that server
[01:20] <DarinMiller> I freshing installed 16.04 last week on an old test box but I have not installed the NVida drivers.... Installing now to see if crashing console appears.
[01:20] <DarinMiller> hey tsimonq2o/
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 So you simonized that text box?  XD
[01:20] <sintre> keep in mind did full-upgrade thru back ports two nights ago
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[01:21] <DarinMiller> yes, my old box is also upgraded via the ppa.  (fresh install immediately followed by PPA upgrade).
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[01:33] <DarinMiller> sintre: no konsole crashing on my 16.04 box with BP ppa after nvidia-340 driver (Geforce 9600M) install from nvida driver ppa.
[01:34] <DarinMiller> Same box dualboots 17.04 without issues.  
[01:34] <sintre> also have my driver updated to 340.101
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[01:35] <DarinMiller> sintre: yes, 340.101 drivers here also.
[01:35] <sintre> atleast i can shut it down and restart it
[01:35] <DarinMiller> sintre: if you live book your box, does the terminal crash in the live session?
[01:35] <sintre> live session isn't updated
[01:36] <sintre> and i've never tried konsole from live normally just to install
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[01:36] <sintre> i can test that tomorrow
[01:36] <DarinMiller> sintre: understood, I was just wondering if it as hw issue that we are fighting or corrupted install.
[01:36] <sintre> but it crashing , yet staying open , thus preventing another session
[01:36] <sintre> well been working fine for over a year
[01:37] <sintre> do the ppa upgrades and all
[01:37] <sintre> no third party or unknow stuff i've installed
[01:37] <sintre> that i know of
[01:38] <sintre> k odd now
[01:38] <DarinMiller> do you have spare HD you can throw in it, where you can do a fresh install?  How big is your HD? And do you have home on a separate partition?
[01:38] <sintre> i have same symptom of not beibng able to restart
[01:38] <sintre> but no pop crash msg
[01:38] <sintre> this is getting bizarre
[01:38] <DarinMiller> open a terminal and type reboot.
[01:38] <DarinMiller> or reboot from krunner
[01:39] <sintre> won't let me open one
[01:39] <DarinMiller> alt-spacebar to open krunner and type reboot.
[01:39] <sintre> k ended process konsole again
[01:39] <sintre> and there we are again now i can open it
[01:40] <sintre> its like it won't close itself properly
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[01:41] <sintre> lol there we go crash pop up lol
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[02:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdev-python build #43: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdev-python/43/
[02:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_frameworkintegration build #345: FAILURE in 8 min 1 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_frameworkintegration/345/
[03:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kimap build #173: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kimap/173/
[03:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_marble build #80: STILL FAILING in 27 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_marble/80/
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[03:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kwin build #89: STILL FAILING in 31 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kwin/89/
[03:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kpimtextedit build #134: STILL FAILING in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kpimtextedit/134/
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[03:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi build #231: STILL FAILING in 42 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi/231/
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[03:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kitemmodels build #53: STILL UNSTABLE in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kitemmodels/53/
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[04:14] <DarinMiller> clive: I never was able to configure $GPG_AGENT_INFO (still blank/empty) but after re-creating and re-registering my key from scratch, I can successfully build and sign using gbp-ppa.  Thanks for your help!
[04:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kitemmodels build #146: STILL UNSTABLE in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kitemmodels/146/
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[05:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs build #19: FAILURE in 3 min 38 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs/19/
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[08:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs build #19: FAILURE in 4 min 7 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs/19/
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[09:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_ark build #47: FIXED in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_ark/47/
[09:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_sddm-kcm build #48: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_sddm-kcm/48/
[09:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ark build #356: FIXED in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ark/356/
[09:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_sddm-kcm build #330: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_sddm-kcm/330/
[09:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_sddm-kcm build #140: FIXED in 8 min 9 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_sddm-kcm/140/
[09:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace build #68: STILL FAILING in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace/68/
[09:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_ark build #267: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_ark/267/
[09:45] <soee_> rofl
[09:46] <soee_> i have mobile internet (paid for this month) and today i can't connect because there are no founds on my account ...
[09:49] <yofel> @_@
[10:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace build #69: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace/69/
[10:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace build #89: STILL FAILING in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace/89/
[10:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #86: STILL FAILING in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/86/
[10:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace build #70: STILL FAILING in 29 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace/70/
[11:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #87: STILL FAILING in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/87/
[11:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace build #90: STILL FAILING in 31 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace/90/
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[12:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[12:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace build #72: FIXED in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace/72/
[12:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[12:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #88: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/88/
[12:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace build #91: STILL FAILING in 27 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace/91/
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[13:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[13:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_cervisia build #41: FIXED in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_cervisia/41/
[13:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[13:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_cervisia build #104: FIXED in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_cervisia/104/
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_cervisia build #70: FIXED in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_cervisia/70/
[13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs build #38: FIXED in 28 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs/38/
[13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs build #21: FIXED in 28 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs/21/
[13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs build #21: FIXED in 29 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs/21/
[15:08] <sheytan> Heya!
[15:08] <sheytan> Update went smooth
[15:08] <sheytan> my computer boosted up :D
[15:09] <acheronuk> :)
[16:00] <acheronuk> I can confirm LP bug: #1650767 on the daily iso
[16:33] <acheronuk> Force downgrading ubiquity and it's KDE frontend from 17.0.4.1 to 16.10.14 produces an error free install of today's 17.04 daily image
[16:42] <clivejo> whats the problem with it?
[16:44] <clivejo> why is appdata vanishing?
 why Rik, why?!?
 tell me why
[16:51]  * acheronuk *shrugs*
 not the answer one was looking for!
[16:54] <acheronuk> what's gone missing this time? what package?
 app data
[16:55] <acheronuk> well yes. I mean the main appdata for a package? or some plugins etc seem to have their own sometimes?
[17:13]  * clivejo wonders should he add systemdgenie to KCI
 Why not? :)
[17:13] <clivejo> its only wee
[17:14] <clivejo> Ill install it on zesty and see if it works first
[17:14] <clivejo> tsimonq2: did you help Darin last night?
[17:17]  * clivejo gasps
[17:18] <clivejo> I want a Purple Unicorn Browser
[17:18] <clivejo> http://blog.broulik.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Screenshot_20161216_183255.png
[17:18] <acheronuk> I saw that :P
[17:19] <clivejo> you'd think they would give it a horn!
[17:19] <clivejo> thats just a plain old purple horse browser
[17:19] <BluesKaj> purple horsey browser 
[17:20]  * clivejo shakes head
[17:20] <clivejo> click baiters
[17:20] <clivejo> Im always so disappointed!
[17:20] <acheronuk> looks more like 'my little pony' browser
[17:22] <clivejo> make it a proper unicorn Rik
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/s015O8UI/file_1437.jpg SystemdGenie
[17:27] <acheronuk> :D
[17:33] <clivejo> hi blaze
[17:33] <blaze> hi clivejo 
[17:34] <clivejo> how is life treating you?
[17:35] <blaze> pretty bad
[17:36] <blaze> have you succeeded with krita btw?
[17:37] <clivejo> Rohan uploaded it for me
[17:37] <clivejo> but release team wont release it
[17:37] <acheronuk> why?
[17:38] <clivejo> I think they just like to ignore me
[17:38] <clivejo> its a fun game
[17:38] <acheronuk> oh
[17:39] <clivejo> Ive explain its a split from calligra, but still cant get it moving
[17:41] <clivejo> maybe we need to get Simon on to them
[17:42] <clivejo> the treat alone might un-stick it
[17:53] <sintre> ok  well in my epic battle with goofy crashing terminal , decided to install a fresh install to another drive in a usb enclosure
[17:53] <sintre> unetbootin kept installing darn efi loader which my system didn't reconise , so came across bootup disc creator
[17:53] <sintre> hmm wonder what that does
[17:53] <sintre> lil mweird quirk it has
[17:53] <sintre> when you open it
[17:54] <sintre> it gives a goof lil pop up box
[17:54] <sintre> looks like a line for text
[17:54] <sintre> but can't type anything
[17:55] <sintre> titel bar saysin "Installing ?" and only option is to cancel
[17:55] <sintre> hit that closes program
[17:55] <sintre> but hit x on lil bar
[17:55] <sintre> will let you use program to burn your iso
[17:56] <sintre> and then worked fine and built the usb stick
[17:56] <sintre> but wanted to let ya know of that lil weird thing there
[17:56] <sintre> also then gives another pop up about quit install
[17:56] <sintre> say no to continue
[17:56] <sintre> took me five minutres to figure it out
[17:57] <sintre> so lil wierd easter egg ther e
[18:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_systemdgenie build #1: FAILURE in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_systemdgenie/1/
[18:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[18:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kolf build #162: FIXED in 17 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kolf/162/
[18:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_systemdgenie build #2: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_systemdgenie/2/
[19:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_discover build #75: ABORTED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_discover/75/
[19:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[19:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_discover build #76: FIXED in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_discover/76/
[19:14] <acheronuk> :D
[19:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_systemdgenie build #1: FAILURE in 4 min 16 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_systemdgenie/1/
[19:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_systemdgenie build #1: FAILURE in 4 min 38 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_systemdgenie/1/
[19:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_systemdgenie build #3: STILL FAILING in 5 min 18 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_systemdgenie/3/
[19:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[19:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_systemdgenie build #2: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_systemdgenie/2/
[19:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[19:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_systemdgenie build #4: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_systemdgenie/4/
[20:01] <clivejo> yippeee
[20:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[20:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_systemdgenie build #2: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_systemdgenie/2/
[20:03]  * wxl is a KDE developer now, too: https://phabricator.kde.org/D3634
[20:04] <clivejo> well done :)
[20:06] <clivejo> mhall119: is there anything you can do to help krita get accepted by the release team?
[22:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #11 for job mgmt_pause_integration (previous build: ABORTED)
[23:06] <acheronuk> clivejo: #ubuntu-release topic "We accept payment in cash, check or beer"
[23:06] <clivejo> so do I
[23:06] <acheronuk> so do I
[23:07] <clivejo> and the more time I waste on this the less I want to give
 so do I, but you can get in trouble for getting me the last one XDD