[05:15] berlin station so good [08:42] morning boys and girls. [08:51] morning [09:01] i bought an itunes voucher many years ago, and had to create an appleid [09:02] keep getting attempts to login the account so i wanted to remove it...doesn't seem possible [09:03] you have to ask them to remove it I think [09:03] sigh [09:04] oh, you might be able to from within itunes [09:04] but that means installing itunes [09:04] Vendor lock in? What vendor lock in? [09:04] We are unable to complete your request at this time. Please try again or come back later. [09:04] thats the support page [09:05] and a spinning whell. just like using a mac [09:12] they have to call me :( [09:15] oh the shame when i had to answer my comical security questions on the phone [09:16] ..should i say flippant [09:16] "What's your favourite operating system?" [09:19] been passed to senior adviser [09:19] "you don't have any plans to have any apple stuff in the future?" [09:19] because you said your favourite is Linux? [09:19] "your account will be locked forever" [09:20] I have to use a mac for work, and it's just terrible. For instance, there's no option for the dock to intellihide [09:20] It's either hidden all the time of visible all the time [09:21] morning [09:22] "are you currently involved in legal action against apple" [09:24] i get the impression not many people do this [09:36] heh [09:43] Ya-a--a-awn [09:51] does retro pie work oOK with pi zero? [09:53] was thinking of getting some of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-Wired-USB-SNES-Controller-Retro-Gaming-Joypad-Joystick-Gamepad-For-Nintendo-/162281751335?hash=item25c8bf0327:g:8JEAAOSwcLxYKyg8 [09:58] Morning all [10:32] foobarry: i use a pi3 but any pi will do for retropie [10:32] I have 8bitdo bluetooth controllers with my pi3. works a treat [10:39] quite expensive? [10:39] they're more expensive than the cheapo wired ones on ebay, yeah [10:44] search for 8bitdo [10:44] they're quality devices [11:00] been enjoying star wars pinball on android over the weekend, but got bad headaches [11:22] the game occupying my time is pixel dungeon, a roguealike variamt thats fairly hard === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:10] hmmm. is it possible that i need to upgrade my xps firmware to get bluetooth to work ? ? [13:10] cant connect a single bluetooth mouse [13:11] do any other bt devices work? [13:11] send a file from a phone etc. [13:12] i havent been able to pair my bluetooth speakers so far [13:12] tried an apple mouse and 2 bluetooth models [13:12] it may have a limited bt feature set, try sending receiving a file from a phone. one of the more basic services [13:12] but it doesn't look good [13:13] :( Hmmm [13:13] gonna google some more , see if i can find something out [13:16] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323373 [13:17] hmm. downloading firmware from a dropbox like . rrrr [13:33] knightwise: borrow a BT usb adapter from someone [13:33] foobarry: gonna try that [13:33] see if that works [13:58] sending a file from a phone over bluetooth is a bad test because it is explicitly broken [13:59] the feature was maintained by gnome so they removed it without writing a replacement [14:04] * zmoylan-pi makes a note to check what's doing the transfer next time i bt to a laptop === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:23] Hi there, I've been following a guide to pivot_root so I can shrink my root fs+lvm and grow my var fs+lvm, I got as far as copying the necessary parts into tmpfs and restarting all the services, fuser -vm and lsof both roport nothing holding onto /oldroot but I still can't umount it =( I saw a suggestion that /oldroot/boot might still be mounted, but it's not [14:25] any ideas on what to investigate if fuser -vm and lsof both have nothing left to tell me? [14:47] Rixon: what about /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys and any other mountpoints? [14:48] Rixon: I'd recommend doing the resize in a live-boot environment rather than off your working installation [14:53] diddledan: unfortunately we have no physical access to the machine, so no liveCD trickery, hence the online resize [14:53] /dev, /proc, /sys and /run are all in tmpfs now and pivot_root worked fine [14:54] yes but did you unmount the old locations? [14:55] aaaah it looks like umount -a didn't catch them because they were still busy - thanks I think I should be able to pick it up from there ;) [14:58] dunno how I didn't see that haha [17:06] diddledan: i see your cat links and i raise you... [17:06] kittens in 4K! https://www.dropbox.com/s/50xmsuxadlinsy7/VID_20161219_133034.mp4?dl=0 [17:46] naww, cute kitties [17:47] adding to the 2 year old son and wee dog, bit crazy that place now :> [17:48] ooh i just tried a bit more of Tron: Legacy out on the LG OLED, sooo nice looking \o/ [17:48] \o/ [17:48] with any luck the 2017 models will be cheaper ;) [17:49] i could totally move up from a 55" to a 65" ;) [18:01] daftykins: awwwwwwwwwwwwww [18:08] =] [18:44] I'm curious if anyone thinks snap could replace rather than compliment something like docker [18:45] (or lxd) [18:45] there's some kind of similarities in containers and snap's confinement model but implemented using different tech [18:46] and if not replace, how do you see snap complimenting docker or vicky verky [18:55] diddledan: there is a very nice summary that mark did let me see if I can find it [18:55] \o/ [18:56] thankyou :-) [18:56] * diddledan checks shuttleworth.com [18:56] apparently mark is into integrated product handling solutions :-p [18:57] diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z3yusiCOCk [18:58] lol @ docker and apt-get had a baby [18:59] a frankenstein kill it with fire baby... [18:59] don't you love that mark has to have a label telling people he's mark shuttleworth? :-p [18:59] zmoylan-pi: besides the slide it's actually a good talk :) [19:01] could you pick top 20 silican valley faces out of a police line up? :-) [19:01] well it depends whether I saw them actually commit the murder or not [19:02] they wouldn't murder, they'd violate a eula :-P [19:02] even worse [19:02] diddledan: hope that helps resolve your issue for you :) [19:02] they might violate the GPL! [19:03] * diddledan watching it [19:03] gpl 1, 2 or 3, or lgpl? there's not a lot gpl in that... [19:08] zmoylan-pi: it's one project where bits touch all of the above ;) [19:35] while we're talking about docker, I spun-up a few containers to support ubulog.com [19:37] there's two elasticsearch containers, a web container, and a kibana container (for my use only) [19:37] oh and a logstash container [19:37] knew there was one I was forgetting :-p [19:38] aah, and another container collecting the logs in the first place [19:39] so that's 5 containers and 1 kibana container [19:44] this guy's getting silly with it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4gH7e3mvFM (same conference as davmor2's link to Mark's explanation of snap vs docker)