[06:12] <Kilos> morning za peeps
[06:13] <magespawn> good morning
[06:15] <thatgraemeguy> morning
[07:03] <nsnzero> morning all
[07:26] <chesedo> morning all
[07:30] <nsnzero> trying out irssi - dont know if i set it up right ???
[07:31] <Kilos> lol that was difficult for me
[07:34] <Symmetria> heh irssi is simple if you keep the options simple 
[07:35] <Symmetria> but there are a gazillion things you can do with it - and the more you do the more complex it gets
[07:35] <Kilos> hehe ill stick to konversation
[07:37] <nsnzero> morning Kilos and Symmetria 
[07:37] <nsnzero> yeah reading the documentation - it gets quite complex 
[07:42] <magespawn> i like it a lot, i do not have a comples setup though.
[07:42] <superfly> nsnzero: I've heard that weechat is a bit nicer 
[07:43] <Symmetria> heh so - Neotel transaction is done and dusted - now the real work begins
[07:43] <superfly> But I prefer my Quassel setup
[07:43] <Symmetria> and there will be a lot of it 
[07:45] <nsnzero> i just setup irssi because it was the first one i saw - but now i will have to try quassel superfly 
[07:46] <nsnzero> Symmetria: we will be happy to help with testing the network - if you provide us with modems 
[07:47] <superfly> nsnzero: Quassel is slightly different. You can either use it as a normal IRC client, or you can use it as a GUI client in your PC that interfaces with a core daemon on a remote server 
[07:49] <superfly> nsnzero: I have the client/core setup, which means that right now I'm using the Quasseldroid app on my phone to chat :) 
[07:50] <superfly> nsnzero: ask paddatrapper about his weechat app on his phone, that's also pretty cool
[07:51] <paddatrapper> nsnzero: I running weechat in tmux on a VPS and ssh into it usually. On my phone I have Weechat remote which works with the remote API in weechat
[07:51] <paddatrapper> Also occasionally use the web remote
[07:56]  * nsnzero is experiencing an information overload 
[07:57] <nsnzero> bbl guys - take care 
[08:16] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:16] <inetpro> Symmetria: you are back in Town?
[08:25] <Kilos> lol
[08:25] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[08:31] <Kilos> Maaz announce 
[08:31] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[08:31] <Kilos> Hi Miles,
[08:31] <Kilos> there's no meeting today. The next one is on the 10th January. If you
[08:31] <Kilos> like we can extend the the verification for ubuntu-za until 10th January.
[08:31] <Kilos> Make sure to setup the Reverification page and add it to our agenda
[08:31] <Kilos> here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[08:31] <Kilos> Maaz ok
[08:31] <Maaz> Kilos: *blink*
[08:32] <Kilos> no verification today guys
[08:32] <Kilos> i have asked for it to be on the 10th as he suggested
[08:32]  * Kilos waits for ack
[08:33] <Kilos> chesedo superfly inetpro etc etc^^
[08:33] <superfly> Kilos: fine with me
[08:37] <inetpro> +1
[08:39] <inetpro> superfly: before I forget to talk to you before your flight, which hopefully I won't, I wish you safe travels and many fond memories on your holiday trip abroad
[08:40] <inetpro> oops... it's not a holiday?
[08:40] <superfly> hah
[08:40] <superfly> if it was just a holiday, why didn't I leave in october?
[08:40] <inetpro> :-)
[08:41] <inetpro> anyway... hope you have a short flight and arrive safely on that side
[08:46] <inetpro> make the most of the last few moments here and don't forget to appreciate the flight attendants on board 
[08:46] <inetpro> they will most likely not be with family during the coming few days
[09:10] <chesedo> Kilos: np
[09:17] <Langjan> G'morning Kilos did you sleep well?
[09:19] <superfly> inetpro: my shortest flight is 4 hours
[09:21] <inetpro> superfly: keep yourself busy programming in flight 
[09:21] <Langjan> Hi superfly what route do you fly?
[09:22] <MaNI> I don't know how anyone could do any meaningful programming on a plane, unless in a first class seat or something
[09:22] <superfly> Langjan: Cape Town to Doha to Chicago to Tucson
[09:22] <inetpro> hi Langjan
[09:23] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[09:23] <Langjan> Whew, long detour. Reminds me of our Oz trip via Doha - Qatar? 
[09:23] <Kilos> yes ty and i feel better today how are you sir
[09:23] <Langjan> hi inetpro and Kilos 
[09:24] <Langjan> Glad youre feeling better
[09:24] <Langjan> I'm fine thks Kilos 
[09:24] <inetpro> MaNI: a friend of mine does it on his daily trips on the Tube in the UK
[09:25] <MaNI> no idea how a tube compares to a plane, but plane seats are so cramped that you can't even get a good angle view of your monitor or type properly - my personal experience
[09:25] <Langjan> Kilos, my screen freeze has to do with full screen, not screensaver except in that it also goes full screen
[09:26] <MaNI> maybe a very small person might have better luck
[09:26] <Langjan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/577459/making-youtube-fullscreen-will-freeze-unity-the-whole-desktop
[09:27] <Langjan> Does it in Opera, not in Firefox
[09:27] <Langjan> Opera also keeps asking for keyring 
[09:27] <MaNI> Thats before taking into account constant interruptions and other issues like that which make difficult problem solving unlikely - I suppose if coding very easy stuff thats less of an issue but IDK it seems like trying to force something that just shouldn't happen - better to just do something more suited to plane flight like read a book or sleep or something
[09:28] <Kilos> let me read it Langjan 
[09:28] <Kilos> hard to sleep sitting up MaNI we not chickens
[09:28] <MaNI> tube is probably a bit less cramped than an aircraft seat - but I wouldn't know as I've never been to london
[09:29] <Kilos> Langjan Page Not Found
[09:29] <Kilos> ai!
[09:30] <MaNI> Kilos, I usually find that if I pick a window seat and take a jersey I can lean against the wall in a position that allows a light sleep like state - not perfect but passable. Any other seat except window is a disaster
[09:32] <Langjan> Kilos, Firefox finds it no prob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/577459/making-youtube-fullscreen-will-freeze-unity-the-whole-desktop
[09:49] <Kilos> installing the fox
[09:49] <Kilos> sigh
[09:50] <Kilos> what are you doing in youtube now that freezes your screen Langjan 
[09:50] <Kilos> just resize it so it isnt full screen and see what happens
[09:51] <Kilos> internet very very slow here today
[10:01] <Langjan> Kilos, watched this video: http://e4wd.co.za/breathtaking-drone-footage-filmed-throughout-africa/
[10:02] <Kilos> langjan try that fix but be careful in compiz
[10:03] <Kilos> i dont do videos man
[10:03] <Kilos> battled even to download firefox
[10:03] <Kilos> try that fix but be careful in compiz
[10:03] <Langjan> Resize? Its standard size or full screen. Standard size works fine, as soon as I go full screen it works for a while but seems to freeze whenever I click on something like "share" icon. Also freezes when video stops at the end.   
[10:04] <Kilos> you can drag the sides of pages to resize them
[10:04] <Kilos> try the compix fix
[10:04] <Kilos> or install kde
[10:04] <Kilos> fly said beware of fiddling in compiz
[10:04] <Kilos> so be carefull
[10:04] <Langjan> Tried the fix, does not work for Opera. I also put Firefox in and am not sure if that made the diff but FF is wokring foine in full screen.
[10:05] <Kilos> no rush rush break things
[10:05] <Langjan> Yes I am very wary of compiz
[10:05] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:05] <Kilos> does the fox now do speedtest 
[10:05] <Langjan> yes its fine
[10:06] <Kilos> yay then use it seeing as you are so anti opera
[10:06] <Langjan> I'm not anti-opera its fast but no good it it freezes my screen and keeps asking for keyring
[10:07] <Kilos> huh
[10:07] <Langjan> bobbejaantjie sê huh
[10:07] <Langjan> lmga!
[10:08] <Kilos> get this one
[10:08] <Kilos> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/opera
[10:08] <Kilos> then when you apt update it will get keyrings stuff
[10:09] <Kilos> i gave you the wrong one last night sorry sir
[10:13] <Langjan> Go pm
[13:57] <Kilos-> hi chesedo do you think our wiki reverification page is complete?
[13:58] <Kilos-> and did you note the date change
[13:58] <Kilos-> 10th jan at 1700 utc
[13:58] <Kilos-> so 7pm here i think
[13:58] <Kilos-> paddatrapper you guys winning with iterum
[13:59] <paddatrapper> Kilos-: Getting there. ALmost ready to package
[13:59] <Kilos-> whats news magespawn ? you been very quiet
[13:59] <Kilos-> wonderful paddatrapper 
[13:59] <Kilos-> kudos to you and superfly 
[13:59] <paddatrapper> Thanks :)
[14:01] <chesedo> Kilos-: this is the first time that i'll witness a reverification, so do not really know what __complete__ will be. but i'll go and compare it to the docs later tonight and give you feedback
[14:01] <chesedo> Kilos: ^^
[14:08] <Kilos> cool ty lad i think superfly is happy with it, if so i will add it to the agenda for the 10th
[14:12] <nsnzero> installed plamsa 5.8.4 - had to edited all the themes again
[14:13] <Kilos> lol
[14:17] <nsnzero> hi Kilos 
[14:18] <nsnzero> they put a funny black splash screen after a bright blue login screen 
[14:22] <Kilos> lol
[14:23] <nsnzero> if anyone needs help changing their plasma themes - i can help abit 
[14:32] <Kilos> you can do that in nsettings i think
[14:32] <Kilos> there is a get new themes button
[14:33] <Kilos> or you can search your pics
[14:33] <Symmetria> mmmm
[14:33] <Symmetria> can anyone here browse to www.flysaa.com?
[14:33] <Symmetria> it seems to be having serious issues right now 
[14:33] <Kilos> unknown host
[14:34] <Kilos> have you tried etihad airways
[14:34] <Kilos> they quite good imo though im no frequent flier
[14:34] <Symmetria> LOL kilos I need to fly to ZA and within ZA 
[14:35] <Kilos> just economy is too cramped to sleep
[14:35] <Symmetria> but I'm just laughing because flysaa.com being down = major chaos at this time of the year
[14:35] <Kilos> yeah crazy
[14:35] <Symmetria> heh I'm platinum on SAA
[14:35] <Symmetria> platinum on emirates
[14:35] <Symmetria> platinum on BA
[14:36] <Symmetria> and gold in ethiad 
[14:36] <Symmetria> lol
[14:36] <Kilos> that dont help if the airline crashed
[14:36] <Symmetria> yeah :p
[14:44] <nsnzero> wonder if a dns problem or DDOS????
[14:47] <Symmetria> dns problem
[14:54] <nsnzero> i read a story once about this company - their server would go down every 2nd day for 7 to 7:30
[14:55] <Symmetria> hahahahahaha
[14:55] <nsnzero> after much trouble shooting , they discovered that the cleaner would unplug it to plug in the floor cleaning machine
[14:55] <Symmetria> so here is what happened
[14:55] <Symmetria> busineses connection didn't pay for a domain
[14:55] <Symmetria> that domain has the nameservers on it for flysaa.com
[14:57] <nsnzero> how much business that is going to cost them - being peek season 
[14:58] <nsnzero> cant you use their ip address ? the dns is a lookup service for ip addresses
[14:59] <Symmetria> heh you can't because of the vhosting and the way its done 
[14:59] <Symmetria> :) and don't worry I know how DNS works - lol I run the largest DNS servers on the continent - I've logged the relevant calls
[14:59] <Symmetria> and trying to get hold of the CEO of ZACR at the moment
[15:02] <Symmetria> I got the suspension lifted on ipnetwork.co.za
[15:03] <nsnzero> Symmetria: you are very knowledgable indeed 
[15:03] <nsnzero> bbl 
[15:11] <inetpro> well done Symmetria
[15:13] <Symmetria> heh that will bring most of the parastatals back 
[15:13] <Symmetria> thats hilarious though
[16:22] <Squirm> Evening
[16:25] <Kilos> wow Squirm you still alive
[16:25] <Squirm> :)
[16:25] <Squirm> Still around
[16:36] <Kilos-> sjoe power keeps going with the storm
[16:59] <magespawn> Chat later all
[17:18] <nsnzero> guys i am getting a 404 error on za.archive.ubuntu.com , when trying to update 
[18:33] <nsnzero> good evening all
[18:34] <magespawn> good evening
[18:35] <nsnzero> how you doing magespawn ?
[18:36] <magespawn> good and you nsnzero ?
[18:37] <nsnzero> i am well, just a little hot  
[18:49] <magespawn> was fairly warm here today too, but just had a nice thunderstorm so that has cooled things down a bit
[18:56] <nsnzero> magespawn: thats good - its cloudy here now - hopefully we get some rain to drop the temp
[18:57] <nsnzero> magespawn: can you run sudo apt-get update and check if za.archive.ubuntu.com gives a 404 error ?
[18:58] <magespawn> not running ubuntu unfortunately, so prabably would not do any good
[18:58] <nsnzero> kubuntu ?
[18:58] <magespawn> nope, kali based on debian
[18:59] <nsnzero> oh ok - pen testing ?
[19:00] <magespawn> yes, learning mostly, but it is the main os on this machine
[19:01] <nsnzero> i used kali as well - but i dont like it much ... 
[19:01] <magespawn> why not?
[19:02] <nsnzero> i cant get it to work - even with a simple windows xp machine it fails
[19:03] <magespawn> ahh,it does take a bit of practice and most of the commands assume you are running as root
[19:05] <nsnzero> i followed the tut to the letter , but no reverse shell on meterpreter 
[19:06] <nsnzero> no error messages ether , like everything went smoothly but no shell 
[19:06] <nsnzero> *either 
[19:06] <magespawn> ahh well, i wont be any use like said i am still learning
[19:07] <nsnzero> i wish you the best 
[19:08] <nsnzero> get armitage for kali its a good gui for metsaploit 
[19:09] <magespawn> i think sometimes those tutorials are against the perfect target
[19:09] <magespawn> armitage comes installed now
[19:10] <nsnzero> ok - i downloaded the vmplayer iso - didnt have it installed by default
[19:12] <magespawn> i have never used that, i have always had installed as the main OS, but at work i have a nice enough machine that i can run it virtually
[19:16] <nsnzero> i gave it a try it was the main os in this laptop for a while until i upgrade to plasma 5.8.2 on my other HP - from the neon repo
[19:17] <nsnzero> the upgrade didnt go well , so i installed kubuntu here on put kali in a vm 
[19:18] <nsnzero> hi chesedo 
[19:21] <chesedo> hi nsnzero
[19:21] <magespawn> hi chesedo 
[19:21] <chesedo> and magespawn
[19:22] <chesedo> :D
[19:23] <nsnzero> magespawn: if you need any help , let me try 
[19:24] <magespawn> i will do, thanks nsnzero 
[19:26] <nsnzero> magespawn: learn ruby - it will help you understand the internals of MSF 
[19:26] <magespawn> most of it is finding a lab to practice in, so i do not accidentally tear down some persons website etc
[19:27] <magespawn> that might have to wait a bit, learning python and php first, but i do have a couple of ruby courses lined up
[19:27] <nsnzero> wait i can help with that 
[19:28] <magespawn> my current employer has graciously allowed us to build a lab at work, i just have to be a bit patient
[19:28] <nsnzero> give this a try /www.hackthissite.org/ its a good starting point 
[19:30] <magespawn> i have used that one briefly befoer, but have not been back in awhile
[19:30] <magespawn> before
[19:31] <magespawn> there is also this site https://www.hackthis.co.uk/
[19:31] <nsnzero> yeah there are a couple of those types of sites 
[19:32] <magespawn> i have also found a couple that have CTF set that you can install on a web server in a lab
[19:33] <nsnzero> the rapid 7 exploit database also makes good potty reading 
[19:33] <magespawn> yes
[19:33] <magespawn> i want to get my hands on some of the equipment from hak5
[19:34] <nsnzero> i will have to google that 
[19:34] <magespawn> time is always short though, and i still have to work
[19:34] <magespawn> bloggers and such have website up, with come very nice kit on it, also a youtube channel
[19:35] <magespawn> and sleep
[19:38] <nsnzero> now i wondering about making a rubber ducky 
[19:38] <nsnzero> take care magespawn 
[19:38] <magespawn> i am off, good night all