[01:56] <Tuzam> im on 16.04. will "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" update it to 16.10 or something and thus depriving me of the 3-year support?
[02:00] <bazhang> Tuzam, dist-upgrade does Not change versions
[02:00] <Tuzam> bazhang: what does
[02:00] <bazhang> Tuzam, and it's five year LTS not three
[02:00] <Tuzam> bazhang: but on https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-16-04-release/ it says 3 years
[02:01] <bazhang> Tuzam, you just posted in #ubuntu
[02:01] <Tuzam> bazhang: yeah since this channel was dead
[02:02] <bazhang> Tuzam, and you are getting support there as well
[02:03] <Tuzam> bazhang: does three year of support imply that i'll receive security updates from ubuntu for only three years?
[02:03] <bazhang> Tuzam, you just got an answer for that
[02:03] <bazhang> please stop with the crossposting Tuzam
[08:11] <xubuntu95w> What did. Only has established on VB Xu 17 and has installed the System Load Indicator program (indicators have to be visible always Xu 16-ok) http://rgho.st/download/private/8zwnZpylJ/fa005084ba7c5720424f964f84e57cd9/850edcb81a16213dffa6372cec36b36e20431277/%2567678%25$%23%236788.avi
[08:12] <xubuntu95w> Only has installed ...
[08:16] <flocculant> if you've installed the developement versions and all ^^ means indicators are missing from the panel - yes it's a known bug
[08:17] <flocculant> also #xubuntu-devel for devel versions - assuming you're testing it for us
[08:18] <xubuntu95w> reinstall, uninstall and install System Load Indicator program not help
[08:18] <flocculant> no - it won't - there is a bug :)
[08:22] <flocculant> actually system load works for me - but this is the wrong channel for 17.04
[08:35] <xubuntu95w> I seen and showed. What to do with this, you decide.
[08:58] <xubuntu75w> Xu 17.04 64bit
[08:58] <xubuntu75w> forgot
[09:46] <ngomes> hi. i have a information window telling me that it's not posssible to download ttf-mscoredonts-installer. it has been trying to install since yesterday, from time to time the pop-up just opens to inform me. any way to make it install ?
[09:48] <ngomes> this is the command : /usr/lib/apt/apt-helper download-file http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe /var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/andale32.exe SHA256:0524fe42951adc3a7eb870e32f0920313c71
[10:00] <xubuntu84w> again I. For Me this always on 17. https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-multiload/+bug/1636518
[10:05] <bazhang> 17.04?
[10:06] <bazhang> thats not yet released and is discussed in #ubuntu+1 not here
[10:32] <xubuntu84w> Humor. "I know this: Xubuntu 17 doing developers Debian - Ok. I gonna go write about this problem on the Debian the website."
[10:34] <bazhang> #xubuntu-offtopic please for chat/jokes
[10:36] <xubuntu84w> Goodbye.
[10:49] <Slown> Bonjour
[10:55] <Spass_> Slown: Cześć.
[10:56] <Slown> Salut Spass_
[10:57] <Slown> vous me conseillez quoi ?
[10:57] <Slown> la 16.10 ou la 16.04 LTS
[10:57] <Slown> j'hésite
[10:57] <bazhang> 16.04 is lts
[10:58] <bazhang> the other has nine months support
[10:58] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr if you need support en francais
[10:58] <Slown> sorry
[10:58] <Slown> you talk english there ?
[10:59] <bazhang> no worries
[10:59] <bazhang> english here
[10:59] <Slown> ok
[10:59] <bazhang> french there
[10:59] <Slown> np I can speak english
[10:59] <Slown> thanks bazhang
[10:59] <bazhang> great
[10:59] <bazhang> np
[10:59] <Slown> so 16.04 is better ?
[10:59] <bazhang> depends on your needs
[11:00] <Slown> what does it mean ?
[11:00] <Slown> I don't want to update my system everyday
[11:00] <Slown> that's the important thing
[11:00] <bazhang> if you want something with longer term support
[11:00] <Slown> I'm looking for
[11:00] <Slown> the less updates is better
[11:01] <bazhang> you can choose when to update
[11:01] <bazhang> although security updates are better done sooner
[11:01] <Slown> It's not a question about what I choose
[11:01] <Slown> but I have a weak broadband
[11:01] <Slown> overthere
[11:01] <bazhang> I know
[11:01] <Slown> so...
[11:02] <bazhang> security updates are done better sooner
[11:02] <Slown> np with security updates
[11:02] <Slown> I'm talking about frequent applications updates
[11:02] <bazhang> you can also choose to offline installs
[11:02] <bazhang> thats not a problem
[11:03] <Slown> If you have a weak broadband
[11:03] <Slown> and a lot of updates
[11:03] <bazhang> lts tends to have fewer of those
[11:03] <Slown> that's really a problem :)
[11:03] <bazhang> ie application updates
[11:03] <bazhang> which browser do you use
[11:03] <Slown> in LTS version or the regular one ?
[11:03] <Slown> firefox
[11:03] <bazhang> lts
[11:04] <Slown> do you know archlinux ?
[11:04] <bazhang> firefox is security updates, whichever you choose
[11:04] <bazhang> sure
[11:04] <Slown> not a troll or something like that
[11:04] <bazhang> never thought you were
[11:04] <Slown> I'm looking just for the exact opposite of that
[11:05] <bazhang> then lts it is
[11:05] <Slown> just to give you a picture of what I'm looking for
[11:05] <Slown> :)
[11:05] <bazhang> yep
[11:05] <bazhang> understood
[11:05] <Slown> so let's go for the lts version
[11:06] <Slown> I'm hesitating between xubuntu & lubuntu
[11:06] <Slown> I have an intel core duo processor
[11:06] <Slown> 2 GB of RAM
[11:06] <bazhang> lubuntu is very lightweight
[11:06] <bazhang> both will work with that
[11:06] <Slown> what do you think bazhang ?
[11:07] <Slown> np If I choose xubuntu ?
[11:07] <Slown> It will works smoothly ?
[11:07] <Slown> I mean with firefox
[11:07] <bazhang> I use the full unity ubuntu with 2gig of ram
[11:07] <Slown> and some other apps
[11:07] <bazhang> fewer tabs on firefox, sure
[11:08] <Slown> less than 10
[11:08] <Slown> and to update my system to xubuntu 18.04
[11:08] <Slown> the next LTS version
[11:09] <Slown> no need to reinstall all the system ?
[11:09] <Slown> I don't want to lose my data
[11:09] <bazhang> no need at all
[11:10] <bazhang> although having backups is always a good idea
[11:10] <Slown> so I just download the new ISO
[11:10] <Slown> and reinstall my system
[11:10] <Slown> that's good
[11:11] <knome> you don't have to download the new ISO when upgrading
[11:11] <bazhang> lts to lts is a one jump
[11:12] <knome> indeed
[11:24] <Slown> thank you guys
[11:24] <Slown> I have to go now
[11:24] <Slown> see you later
[11:24] <Slown> bye
[12:05] <BuddyButterfly> hi
[12:06] <BuddyButterfly> I do not get listed any printer from printer server nor am I able to change the IP of the printer server. there is a pre-filled IP, which is the wrong IP, but I am not able to change it. Any idea?
[12:06] <BuddyButterfly> Using Xubuntu 16.04.
[12:06] <BuddyButterfly> Am I missing some rights?
[20:46] <n0b0dy> HI! I can not save config from xfpanel-switch.
[20:46] <n0b0dy> I see a save file dialog, but clicking on save does nothing.
[20:46] <n0b0dy> is this s known bug?
[20:47] <n0b0dy> BTW this xfpanel-switch is a FANTASTIC feature - I was just asking myself how to avoid fiddling with xfce panel xml files and now found that there is a nice gui fo that.
[20:48] <flocculant> n0b0dy: what xubuntu version?
[20:49] <xubuntu03w> Hello!
[20:49] <n0b0dy> ah, sorry, xenial!
[20:49] <n0b0dy> freshly installed and updated, no customizations regarding xfce ppa or anything in that direction
[20:50] <flocculant> certainly works fine here - save and see new line appears
[20:50] <n0b0dy> how can I debug that? how to get output about why that save action does nothing?
[20:51] <flocculant> n0b0dy: check in .local/share/xfpanel-switch/ first
[20:52] <n0b0dy> this directory does exist, but is empty
[20:54] <flocculant> odd
[20:55] <n0b0dy> is there any logging that can be activated and seen? Have no xperience with xfce development, but feel confident with poking around.
[20:56] <flocculant> not sure what goes there - if you can hang around for a while, bluesabre might have more idea
[20:57] <n0b0dy> thanx, will stay here for a while
[21:00] <n0b0dy> meanwhile reading http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/debugging
[21:12] <xubuntu45w> hi there, i have downloaded and installed 16.04 LTS xubuntu.  Everything looks good.  However, i cannot play any video in http://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html .   I have done the "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras"
[21:14] <xubuntu45w> more info : mine is 64 bits.   i have all blue check mark on youtube.com/html5
[21:14] <xubuntu45w> does anyone have this problem?  what do i miss?
[21:26] <genii> That page is very old. Firefox 4 and Chrome 9 are listed as supported on it.
[21:43] <n0b0dy> all videos on that page playing with my xenial chromium. I have no flash plugin installed.
[21:44] <n0b0dy> I always uninstall adobe flash and use chromium.
[22:03] <xubuntu45w> i have installed google chrome.  Both firefox & google-chrome cannot play video in youtube.com
[22:06] <xubuntu45w> from the firefox's about:plugins , i have /home/xubuntu/.mozilla/firefox/vpq52i17.default/gmp-gmpopenh264/1.6 for openh264
[22:52] <xubuntu45w> @n0b0dy , i have just installed "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser" and tried loaded the video from quirksmode and youtube.   it is still not working :(
[23:04] <n0b0dy> hmm, that is strange - did you do a standard installation from iso?
[23:06] <xubuntu45w> yes, i have just downloaded xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso from http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/
[23:06] <n0b0dy> I just yesterday installed a fresh xubuntu xenial, video just works
[23:06] <n0b0dy> ah, wait, there is one check box in the installation screen to download additional multimedia stuff
[23:07] <xubuntu45w> yes, i did
[23:07] <xubuntu45w> should i know check it?
[23:07] <n0b0dy> i checked that, but these may be the restricted-addons you wrote earlier about
[23:09] <n0b0dy> I have a package ubuntu-restricted-addons installed - maybe these are the key parts for video
[23:10] <n0b0dy> also I have  chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
[23:10] <n0b0dy> try to install these packages and check again
[23:12] <xubuntu45w> ubuntu-restricted-addons & xubuntu-restricted-addons & chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra are all in latest version on the server
[23:14] <n0b0dy> on the server? what do you mean? just install them with apt-get install
[23:14] <n0b0dy> sudo apt-get install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
[23:15] <n0b0dy> in a terminal of course
[23:17] <xubuntu45w> all these packages are installed with latest version on my xubuntu box :)
[23:18] <n0b0dy> and still no video? well, sorry, I do not know what that might be. any blocking plugins?
[23:19] <n0b0dy> did you actively deactivate video play in browser settings?
[23:20] <xubuntu45w> i didn't change any settings in firefox or chrome or chromium.   everything should be default......
[23:20] <n0b0dy> I can only tell you that on my freshly installed xubuntu videos on that page just play fine. sorry.
[23:20] <xubuntu45w> oh.........
[23:21] <n0b0dy> in such cases I create another user and log in as that new user with a clean $HOME
[23:21] <xubuntu45w> thank you for your help.   I hope others can help
[23:21] <n0b0dy> just to avoid some settings I have from earlier sessions interfere with systems default
[23:23] <n0b0dy> maybe another test: you could check if these videos play from inside the LIVE xubuntu on the iso.
[23:23] <n0b0dy> maybe there is some hardware problem regarding video playback, but this seems not very realistic to me.
[23:24] <n0b0dy> so I mean booting from iso / usb and check if videos work there.
[23:24] <n0b0dy> also maybe try with another machine to exclude that there is some hardware problem.
[23:25] <xubuntu45w> FYI, i have just switched to "Guess Session".   not working either.
[23:26] <n0b0dy> I just checkd that page with Firefox, too, no problem. And I have no flash plugin installed, so pure html5 playback
[23:27] <n0b0dy> this does not help you much, but at least I can confirm that the page is ok and xubuntu can do it.
[23:46] <xubuntu45w> i am going to try live version and see ttyl