[04:37] <Kilos> morning everyone
[04:50] <magespawn> good morning
[04:53] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[04:54] <magespawn> how is the farm life Kilos?
[05:30] <Kilos> Maaz tell magespawn dont get to do much, but very lekker peaceful and quiet ty 
[05:30] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[05:34] <Symmetria> https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/861598-Flysaa-com-website-downtime
[05:34] <Symmetria> lol read my post on there
[05:34] <Symmetria> its kinda funny
[05:34] <Symmetria> the last comment in the list
[07:35] <Langjan> G'morning guys, how you feeling Kilos?
[07:38] <Kilos> hi Langjan ok ty and you
[07:38] <Kilos> what broke now?
[07:38] <Langjan> Fine thks Kilos 
[07:40] <Langjan> Just some feedback, I used the system repair utilities in grub and it kicked xscreensaver out, looks like that was the cause of the screen freezes
[07:40] <Kilos> wonderful
[07:40] <Kilos> happy to hear that, was rather a pain that
[07:41] <Kilos> did you see to do that online?
[07:41] <Kilos> if not post that info where you saw others with the same prob
[07:41] <Langjan> No I just went there to see what happens. Now I have opera developer and normal, which one to use?
[07:41] <Kilos> both
[07:41] <Langjan> Developer still asks for key
[07:42] <Langjan> why both?
[07:42] <Kilos> i run both at the same time on different workspaces
[07:42] <Kilos> its your choice what to use
[07:42] <Langjan> I have two eyes but only one thinking tool
[07:43] <Kilos> hha thats why i leave things open on different workspaces so i dont have to remember 
[07:43] <Langjan> Did the fly fly?
[07:43] <Kilos> open browser and important links are still there
[07:43] <Kilos> must bhave
[07:43] <Kilos> have
[07:44] <Kilos> oh my i didnt even wish him bon voyage
[07:44] <Langjan> I suppose we will see him on irc but at restricted times 
[07:44] <Kilos> Maaz tell superfly Go safe our good friend
[07:44] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell superfly on freenode
[07:45] <Kilos> paddatrapper morning has fly left?
[07:45] <Langjan> Maaz, tell superfly from me also
[07:45] <Maaz> Langjan: Righto, I'll tell superfly on freenode
[07:45] <Kilos> sad day for za buntu
[07:46] <Langjan> Maaz, good guy
[07:46] <Maaz> Langjan: What?
[07:46] <Langjan> Bots dont have emotions
[07:46] <Kilos> lol
[07:47] <Kilos> Maaz good guy
[07:47] <Maaz> You arent so bad yourslf my friend
[07:47] <Kilos> he likes me more than you Langjan 
[07:48] <Langjan> So they do you must just understand their lingo
[07:48] <Langjan> Maaz, good guy
[07:48] <Maaz> You arent so bad yourslf my friend
[07:48] <Kilos> haha
[07:48] <Kilos> aha he acepted you into the fold
[07:48] <Langjan> cant spell though
[07:48] <Kilos> oh my
[07:49] <Langjan> lmga
[07:49] <Kilos> he sometimes makes spelling erors to see if we are awake
[07:49] <Langjan> Kilos, I see theres a gnome screensaver but activation seems complicated
[07:50] <Langjan> so how you you tell him?
[07:50] <Langjan> or correct him?
[07:50] <Kilos> tell him what
[07:50] <Langjan> spelling errors
[07:50] <Langjan> you alzies? 
[07:51] <Kilos> screensavers should be in your settings
[07:51] <Kilos> he takes note and fixes them
[07:51] <Kilos> Maaz good guy
[07:51] <Maaz> You arent so bad yourself my friend
[07:51] <Kilos> see
[07:52] <Kilos> you can teach him
[07:52] <Langjan> I see but dont see screensaver in settings
[07:52] <Langjan> System settings?
[07:52] <Kilos> has unity dropped the screensaver button
[07:52] <Kilos> your main settings with all the settings
[07:52] <Kilos> same place as the power one
[07:53] <Langjan> nothing there
[07:53] <Langjan> Unity tweak tool?
[07:53] <Kilos> oh my
[07:53] <Kilos> yes try that
[07:54] <Kilos> there were two tweak things one could use when i left unity
[07:54] <Langjan> dont see anything there either
[07:54] <Langjan> compiz?
[07:55] <Kilos> what does this guy say http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[07:55] <Kilos> you might need to install screensavers separately
[07:55] <Kilos> you the unity man you should be telling me
[07:56] <Kilos> when i ak for unity help that is
[07:56] <Kilos> hee hee
[07:56] <Kilos> will be back
[07:57] <Kilos> wont be long
[07:57] <Kilos> and dont dare leaving without first saying so like last time
[07:58] <Langjan> I downloaded gnome screensaver tar.xz but dont know what to do with that folder
[07:59] <Kilos> where from
[07:59] <Kilos> try right click etract
[07:59] <Langjan> Last time I greeted you very civilly but we were on pm 
[07:59] <Kilos> extract
[08:00] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:00] <Kilos> then see if it opens an installable package
[08:00] <Langjan> I did that then a list of files one says install but also does not work
[08:00] <Kilos> that tar route is too ingewikkeld for e
[08:00] <Kilos> ai!
[08:01] <Kilos> there is a command you can run
[08:01] <Langjan> theres a million word fikle on installation instructions
[08:01] <Langjan> file
[08:04] <Kilos> try this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1116012
[08:04] <Langjan> thks
[08:05] <Kilos> should be easy tar commands
[08:09] <Kilos> i got a horrible job i am putting off
[08:10] <Kilos> rewiring an automatic washing machine that was in a place where rats eat wires even
[08:10] <Kilos> maybe next week 
[08:16] <Langjan> Eish! Not good. I have a wiring problem in my car
[08:17] <Kilos> ian too
[08:17] <Langjan> That site did not help, why do they get so complicated?
[08:17] <Kilos> ive rewired the whole section by the coil and distributor and fan
[08:18] <Langjan> Left-hand low beam headlight dead, globe, earth and fuse ok
[08:18] <Kilos> took weeks to find there is problems in the harness so im slowly replacing what doesnt work
[08:18] <Langjan> Looks like I must bring it to you
[08:19] <Kilos> earth is normally just adding a few wires from battery to boby and engine but his goes deeper
[08:19] <Kilos> what isnt it doing
[08:20] <Kilos> horrible working in harnesses
[08:21] <Langjan> low beam in headlight
[08:22] <Kilos> https://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/xenial/gnome-screensaver
[08:22] <Kilos> only one?
[08:22] <Kilos> or both
[08:22] <Langjan> left side
[08:22] <Kilos> globe ok?
[08:24] <Langjan> yes
[08:24] <Kilos> you sure?
[08:24] <Langjan>  It says its already installed
[08:24] <Langjan> ja man
[08:24] <Kilos> how do you know its ok?
[08:24] <Kilos> swop them around
[08:24] <Langjan> eks dom maar nie so dom nie
[08:24] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:24] <Kilos> \ok then
[08:24] <Langjan> fuse also ok
[08:25] <Langjan> as I said, lees jy nie?
[08:25] <Kilos> take a wire from the one thats working and join it to the one that isnt
[08:25] <Langjan> Good idea. Brilliant
[08:25] <Kilos> you can test it by just touching the wire in the globe plug
[08:27] <Langjan> Will try
[08:27] <Langjan> so now I have a screensaver installed but cannot find it, lmga!
[08:30] <Kilos> what happens when you type screensaver in dash
[08:32] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[08:32] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[08:32] <Kilos> and thatgraemeguy 
[08:32] <Langjan> it finds the xscreensaver tar.gz file
[08:33] <Kilos> eish
[08:35] <Langjan> check those install instructions on pm
[08:35] <Langjan> Kilos, dont worry I live without it
[08:36] <Langjan> Let me go see what I can work out with ma car's light
[08:39] <chesedo> morning all
[08:39] <Langjan> hi chesedo you ok?
[08:40] <chesedo> great thanks and self oom Langjan?
[08:40] <Langjan> Fine thaks
[08:40] <Langjan> thanks
[08:41] <thatgraemeguy> 'lo
[08:41] <chesedo> lo thatgraemeguy
[08:42] <nsnzero> hi guys
[08:43] <Kilos> hi nsnzero chesedo 
[08:43] <nsnzero> Kilos: hi , you was missing last night
[08:44] <nsnzero> l
[08:46] <Kilos> yes had to take a break, was tired from chest pain
[08:46] <Kilos> sorry
[08:46] <Kilos> deegee hows davey
[08:46] <Kilos> where are you now?
[08:47] <nsnzero> sorry to hear that Kilos : hope you are feeling better today 
[08:47] <Kilos> a bit ya but today im taking it very easy
[08:47] <Kilos> did too much yesterday i think
[08:48] <Kilos> or maybe its all the meds making me feel this way
[08:49] <nsnzero> take it easy now - you still need recovery time 
[08:50] <Kilos> i am taking it easy
[08:52] <nsnzero> my mistake Kilos ;)
[08:54] <chesedo> lol
[08:55] <chesedo> Kilos: btw, my feedback for our reverification page... but first it is suppose to cover the last two years (2015 & 2016) right?
[08:56] <Kilos> correct
[08:57] <chesedo> then we will have to forward those 2014 ones to their 2015/2016 counterparts and remove those that we can not forward
[08:57] <Kilos> what 2014 ones
[08:58] <Kilos> everything we did from dec 2014 is valid for this application
[08:59] <chesedo> the 2014 Release Parties and SFD (which can be forwarded to its 2015)
[09:01] <chesedo> we will also have to provide proof (meeting links) for the things we have in the roadmap section as I understand it
[09:01] <chesedo> but still take it easy Kilos :P
[09:02]  * chesedo will see what he can do with some of them later
[09:03] <chesedo> oh, guess we will also have to update the date to the new one...
[09:13] <Kilos> have we done anything in the roadmap
[09:14] <Kilos> and we can add in the place where we want to involve lugs that some lug members are here with us but lugs on a whole have fzzled away a bit
[09:26] <chesedo> yip that is in the roadmap (aka our future plans)
[09:30] <Kilos> ah
[09:30] <Kilos> lugs are hardegat
[09:30] <chesedo> lol
[09:44] <inetpro> goeiedag mense
[09:44] <inetpro> anyone using xubuntu here?
[09:45] <inetpro> or XFCE on any other distro
[09:45] <chesedo> inetpro: hi, used to long ago
[09:45] <chesedo> what's your prob?
[09:46] <inetpro> chesedo: what is the equivalent of KRDC on XFCE?
[09:46] <inetpro> Remote Desktop Connection client 
[09:47] <chesedo> oh, isn't it just the same...
[09:47] <chesedo> or do you mean a native XFCE one?
[09:48] <inetpro> yes, a native one
[09:50]  * chesedo does not think there is a native one
[09:52] <chesedo> try xrdp maybe
[09:52] <chesedo> or rdesktop
[09:54] <inetpro> Remmina seems to be popular
[09:56] <inetpro> what do people use on Ubuntu Unity?
[10:00] <chesedo> have never used it, but remmina seems to be installed
[10:10] <inetpro> remmina crashes with a coredump
[10:11] <chesedo> lol, same here on unity
[10:12] <inetpro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/982526/comments/5
[10:18] <Kilos> ai! things are bad when pro sukkels
[10:31] <inetpro> Kilos: no, not sukkeling
[10:32] <inetpro> just asking what others are using
[10:32] <inetpro> krdc works
[10:32] <inetpro> just needs a lot of libs if you're not running KDE
[10:33] <inetpro> chesedo: oh and setting to US Locale does not solve it here for remmina
[10:49] <chesedo> inetpro: changing the keyboard locale does work for me though (without a restart)
[10:56] <inetpro> chesedo: how did you do it, what command?
[11:02] <Langjan> Hi guys, back again Kilos sb
[11:07] <chesedo> inetpro: went to keyboard settings, added the US layout and then selected it
[11:07] <chesedo> that reminds me remove it too now :D
[11:07] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[11:08] <Langjan> Guess what? 
[11:08] <Kilos> what
[11:08] <Langjan> I viewed a Power Point and on last click screen froze again only mouse cursor moves
[11:08] <Kilos> ai!
[11:09] <Langjan> so prob stil there, not related to xscreensaver
[11:09] <Kilos> ai!
[11:09] <Langjan> seems to be a common problem with various versions and flavours of ubuntu
[11:09] <Kilos> not kde
[11:10] <Langjan> some reported on kde also
[11:10] <Kilos> have you tried using a few desktops
[11:10] <Kilos> id like to know if you can switch workspaces when that one is frozen
[11:11] <Langjan> I can do nothing except move the mouse cursor around
[11:11] <Kilos> https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi_89DE0YLRAhWKVxoKHdyCBzAQFggbMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F34572%2Fhow-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity&usg=AFQjCNEerasMmN6KdgYeZ4ZZH9GsaSupbw
[11:12] <Langjan> I see remnants of xscreensaver in synaptic, maybe remove them all for starters
[11:12] <Kilos> enable them and use 4 then we see 
[11:12] <Kilos> might be a kill command if only one is faulty
[11:13] <Kilos> this is beyong me , i hammer my way through probs
[11:13] <Kilos> the bigger the probs the bigger the hammer
[11:13] <Kilos> so bare with e
[11:13] <Kilos> me
[11:14] <inetpro> chesedo: oh wow that way works for me as well
[11:14] <inetpro> changing the locale didn't work
[11:16] <inetpro> crazy that it depends on the keyboard layout
[11:19] <Langjan> You in a nudist colony Kilos ?
[11:19] <Kilos> huh
[11:19] <Kilos> oh
[11:19] <Langjan> lmga!
[11:19] <Kilos> bare as is struggle with me man
[11:19] <Kilos> not get kaal with me
[11:20] <Langjan> bear with me, lmga
[11:20] <Kilos> ya that
[11:20] <Kilos> im sukkeling here
[11:20] <Kilos> another tough day ahead it seems
[11:21] <Langjan> I have been using 4 workspaces all along
[11:23] <Langjan> but cannot access launcher to try to switch when screen is frozen
[11:24] <Langjan> Sorry gotta go for lunch
[11:24] <Kilos> np
[11:24] <Kilos> aha
[11:24] <Kilos> ok
[11:25] <Kilos> full screen again
[11:25] <Kilos> doesnt launcher show on left side
[11:39] <chesedo> Langjan: on unity use <ctrl> + <alt> + <direction arrow> to change workspaces with the keyboard
[11:40] <chesedo> also see if you can get into tty 1 with <ctrl> + <alt> + <F1>
[11:40] <chesedo> use the same but with F7 to get back to tty7 (where the gui is)
[11:42] <chesedo> inetpro: it's stupid to be dependant on the keyboard layout in the first place...
[11:43] <Langjan> chesedo, Kilos ctrl alt f1 works fine. let me try to replicate the prob and see if I can get to another desktop 
[11:47] <Langjan> Back again, ctrl+alt+f7 does nothing, also ctrl+alt+ arrows does not change desktop
[11:48] <Langjan> ctl+alt+f1 enables me to reboot via command line
[11:49] <inetpro> chesedo: changing the keyboard layout in the remmina preferences from automatic to US solves it for us 
[11:50] <inetpro> just have to set the keyboard to US to begin with
[11:50] <inetpro> under Preferences | RDP
[11:51] <chesedo> Langjan: a solution to at least get the screen back would be to login at tty1 then run `sudo lightdm restart`
[11:51] <inetpro> goeidag Langjan
[11:51] <chesedo> without needing to restart, but it will kill your login session
[11:51] <Langjan> hi inetpro 
[11:51] <Langjan> chesedo, ttyl?
[11:52] <chesedo> ctrl + alt + F1
[11:52] <inetpro> ctrl+alt+f1 = tty1
[11:52] <Langjan> oh ok thks excuse my illiteracy
[11:52] <inetpro> ctrl+alt+f7 = tty7
[11:53] <inetpro> easier to type the short version
[11:54] <Langjan> ok thks learning
[11:54] <inetpro> I bet it's just an app that is causing the hang
[11:55] <Langjan> I thought it was xsceensaver but that has been purged
[11:55] <inetpro> killing the relevant app would give you control again without having to restart or loose connection
[11:56] <Kilos-> but how to find the relevant app
[11:56] <inetpro> top
[11:56] <Langjan> maybe I use too many apps
[11:57] <Kilos-> type top in terminal oom
[11:57] <Kilos-> most liklely will need to bin the reply
[11:57] <Langjan> ok
[11:57] <Kilos-> clever guys will investigate
[11:59] <Langjan> keeps changing and unable to copy all
[12:00] <Kilos-> ai!
[12:01] <Langjan> whats the bin access again plse?
[12:02] <Kilos-> https://bin.snyman.info
[12:02] <Kilos-> in the topic at the top
[12:04] <Langjan> https://bin.snyman.info/mmm4vff6
[12:06] <Langjan> This looks like current: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmjxcq9
[12:06] <Kilos-> i wonder if that covers from before the freeze
[12:07] <Kilos-> inetpro at what stage must he do top
[12:07] <Kilos-> can it see back to before restarting
[12:12] <Langjan> Could graphics update error have an effect?
[12:12] <Kilos-> what error
[12:13] <Langjan> Graphics upgrade
[12:13] <Kilos-> how did you do that
[12:13] <Kilos-> and was this before the freezing started\
[12:15] <Langjan> I get GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Packagekit was not provided by any .service files
[12:15] <Kilos-> how did you do that upgrade oom
[12:15] <Langjan> It was Intel graphics update app 
[12:16] <Kilos-> oh still that
[12:16] <Langjan> yes
[12:16] <Kilos-> does it show in synaptic
[12:16] <Langjan> let me check dont think so
[12:17] <Langjan> yes it does
[12:17] <Kilos-> try a reinstall
[12:17] <Kilos-> make its broken
[12:17] <Kilos-> reload synaptic first
[12:21] <Langjan> ok done shall I check that Intel upgrade again?
[12:21] <Kilos-> reinstall it from synaptic
[12:21] <Kilos-> and look for error report
[12:22] <Langjan> already done that
[12:22] <Langjan> no error reported
[12:22] <Kilos-> no error?
[12:22] <Kilos-> yay
[12:23] <Kilos-> actually
[12:23] <Kilos-> try not using full screen
[12:23] <Kilos-> keep your launcher clear
[12:24] <Kilos-> then see if it freezes
[12:24] <Kilos-> maybe even leave top running in terminal out the way
[12:24] <Langjan> well then I wil have to avoid some things completely that automatically activate full screen, like powerpoint 
[12:24] <Kilos-> cant you set it
[12:24] <Langjan> can I
[12:24] <Langjan> ?
[12:25] <Kilos-> let it start full screen the size it yourself
[12:25] <Langjan> let me try
[12:25] <Kilos-> push cursor into top right corner and see if it shows it can be resizes
[12:25] <Kilos-> resized
[12:30] <Langjan> you dont understand, when it freezes cursor does NOTHING except move around aimlessly
[12:30] <Langjan> I cannot access ant buttons or menus
[12:31] <Langjan> lightdm restart gets me back to black screen 
[12:31] <Kilos-> and your open desktops
[12:31] <Langjan> power point music keeps playing in background
[12:31] <Kilos-> isnt top running still
[12:31]  * chesedo mostly thinks that this is a graphics issue as mouse (and music) remains responsive
[12:32] <Kilos-> does it freeze the minute full screen actrivates
[12:32] <Kilos-> havent you got a graphics card you can put in there Langjan 
[12:32] <chesedo> Langjan: I would recommend that you check that Intel upgrade again
[12:32] <Kilos-> it is desktop pc hey
[12:33] <Langjan> no not always, some times it shows the whole presentation and freezes at the end but this time it froze at the start
[12:33] <Kilos-> did this only start after intel upgrade
[12:33] <Langjan> Intel upgrade gives same eror again  
[12:33] <Langjan> yes desktop pc
[12:34] <Langjan> no is started before 
[12:34] <Kilos-> have you got a graphics card
[12:34] <Kilos-> pci one
[12:34] <Langjan> dont know
[12:35] <Kilos-> that will work around the onboard graphics
[12:35] <Kilos-> i think
[12:36] <Langjan> whats a pci graphics card?
[12:36] <Langjan> If I dont know I suppose its obvious I dont have one
[12:36] <Kilos-> plugs in to one of those slots in pc
[12:37] <Kilos-> check all your buddies pcs and borrow one
[12:37] <Langjan> yes thats what I thought and no, unless its in there but I can have a peek?  
[12:37] <Kilos-> lspci will how one\
[12:37] <Kilos-> i dont think you have one in atm
[12:38] <Kilos-> i asked do you have one meaning in another pc 
[12:38] <Kilos-> or in a drawer somewhere
[12:38] <Kilos-> or in some tannies pc thats resting there
[12:38] <Langjan> not that I know of
[12:39] <Langjan> let me look around, will let you know meanwhile stay away from full screen goodies
[12:39] <Kilos-> ai! and they arent cheap either
[12:39] <Kilos-> some weakness there in onboard graphics
[12:40] <Kilos-> your screen is too big
[12:40] <Langjan> I have a pci adapter
[12:41] <Langjan> ?
[12:42] <Langjan> Gigabit PCI Adapter GN680-T
[12:42] <Kilos-> or your glasses are too weak
[12:43] <Kilos-> nmow im losted
[12:44] <Langjan> No its a wireless adapter
[12:44] <Kilos-> is that adapter plugged into a pci slot
[12:44] <Kilos-> or onboard
[12:44] <Langjan> no its in a box
[12:44] <Kilos-> where is this box
[12:44] <Langjan> lmga! on my desk
[12:44] <Kilos-> next to the pc
[12:45] <Langjan> as it came from the shop
[12:45] <Langjan> a cardboard box
[12:45] <Kilos-> plugged in where
[12:45] <Kilos-> oh
[12:45] <Kilos-> not used yet
[12:45] <Langjan> but its a wireless adapter
[12:45] <Langjan> no unused
[12:45] <Kilos-> no use then
[12:46] <Kilos-> you need a graphics card with that same kinda plug at the bottom
[12:46] <Kilos-> pci fitting
[12:46] <Langjan> OK will look for one
[12:47] <Kilos-> then once thats workking onboard graphics are out of the picture
[12:47] <Langjan> will report back boss
[12:47] <Kilos-> normally nvidia or ati
[12:47] <Langjan> now I will leave you in peace
[12:48] <Kilos-> haha
[12:48] <Kilos-> good luck sir
[12:48] <Kilos-> or
[12:48] <Kilos-> wait
[12:48] <Langjan> so you can help other peeps
[12:48] <Kilos-> try one more thing
[12:48] <Langjan> ok
[12:48] <Kilos-> you know the name of that intel package
[12:49] <Langjan> yes its here
[12:49] <Kilos-> try reinstall it with aptitude
[12:49] <Kilos-> aptitude gives good error reports and workarounds
[12:50] <Langjan> Intel graphics update tool for Linux OS
[12:51] <Kilos-> thats an update tool no the intel package
[12:51] <Kilos-> synaptic would have given an error if the installed package was faulty
[12:52] <Kilos-> where is this update tool 
[12:52] <Kilos-> oh that link you gave last week
[12:52] <Kilos-> or week before
[12:53] <Kilos-> i didnt use it
[12:53] <Kilos-> some peeps complained of issues i think
[12:53] <Langjan> where do I see what grapgics are onboard?
[12:53] <Kilos-> lspci i think
[12:53] <Kilos-> should be a long story
[12:54] <Kilos-> or lshw
[12:54] <Langjan> I915 module
[12:54] <Kilos-> huh
[12:54] <Kilos-> we past 2000 already
[12:54] <Kilos-> hehe
[12:54] <Langjan> Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[12:54] <Kilos-> thats an ox wagon module
[12:55] <Langjan> Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[12:55] <Kilos-> chesedo guide the oom please
[12:55] <Langjan> PCI bridge: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
[12:55] <Kilos-> ill read
[12:56] <Langjan> Kilos-, sorry gotta take my lady to town
[12:56] <Kilos-> ok Langjan 
[12:56] <Langjan> will chat later if youll excuse me
[12:56] <Kilos-> see you later then
[12:56] <Kilos-> ill have a nap
[12:56] <Langjan> ok take good care
[12:56] <Kilos-> go safe
[12:56] <Langjan> you too thks
[13:13]  * chesedo installs that intel graphics util to get a better look at how to see what is wrong
[13:18] <Kilos-> lol
[13:18] <Kilos-> i was afraid to do that
[13:18] <Kilos-> everything is working here
[13:24] <chesedo> it is installing so am holding my thumbs that nothing breaks
[13:31] <Kilos-> good luck
[13:32] <Symmetria> anyone here on telkom ADSL?
[13:34] <chesedo> telkom refused installation repairs in my area long ago...
[13:50] <inetpro> +1
[13:51] <inetpro> telkom refused installation of lines in my area long ago...
[13:51] <inetpro> Symmetria: does it have to be ADSL?
[13:52] <inetpro> I think we have multiple people on Telkom LTE connection
[14:00] <Kilos-> telkom refused installation of lines in my area long ago...
[14:00] <Kilos-> oh
[14:01] <Kilos-> telkom refused installation repairs in my area long ago...
[14:03] <paddatrapper> Symmetria: I am 
[16:04] <Symmetria> heh
[16:04] <Symmetria> I just need a telkom IP
[16:04] <Symmetria> that I can trace to
[16:04] <Symmetria> to check something
[16:05] <Symmetria> (sorry was busy on calls)
[16:32] <nsnzero> afternoon / good evening all
[16:33] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[16:36] <nsnzero> Kilos: how are you ?
[16:37] <Kilos-> ok ty
[16:38] <nsnzero> let see who can help with this : i need to parse the udw.log file to output only certain field like source and time in real time
[16:46] <magespawn> as a constantly running command or only when you execute the script?
[16:46] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn dont get to do much, but very lekker peaceful and quiet ty" 11 hours, 16 minutes and 27 seconds ago
[16:47] <nsnzero> magespawn: it must show it in real time
[16:49] <nsnzero> i think by storing the len of the file and checking if it has changed will display only changes
[16:50] <nsnzero> i wrote a python 3 script to show the fields i want by splitting the line into a list
[16:50] <magespawn> you could i think, write a bash script that displays the last entry of the log as it is made
[16:52] <nsnzero> magespawn: tail var\log\ufw.log 0 -f will display the last line only and follow for changes
[16:56] <magespawn> nsnzero: would you have terminal open to monitor it or redirect the ouput to another text file?
[16:57] <nsnzero> terminal magespawn 
[17:02] <nsnzero> i attempted it with SED but i really dont understand SED atm
[17:04] <magespawn> nsnzero: just leaving it running screen?
[17:07] <nsnzero> yip - want to monitor the firewall blocks
[17:24] <magespawn> i see, so that should be fine then
[17:25] <nsnzero> magespawn: i will figure it out - maybe a string search to pull out the values
[18:00] <magespawn> chat later 
[18:03] <chesedo> nsnzero: use tail like magespawn suggested and try piping it to 'awk' or 'sed'
[18:03] <chesedo> maybe grep too
[18:07] <nsnzero> hi chesedo 
[18:07] <chesedo> oh hi nsnzero
[18:07] <chesedo> weren't you here earlier today
[18:07] <chesedo> *?
[18:07] <nsnzero> chesedo: i am not fimilar with sed or awk atm 
[18:08] <chesedo> nsnzero: what exactly do you want from the file?
[18:08] <nsnzero> i probaly was on earlier 
[18:09] <nsnzero> from the udw.log date time source protocol destination
[18:09] <chesedo> are they always in the same columns?
[18:10]  * chesedo has not worked with those files in a while
[18:11] <nsnzero> no chesedo they differ in number sometimes  
[18:13] <chesedo> oh I only know enough awk to get certain columns
[18:19] <nsnzero> no worries chesedo i figurd out the pseudo code just have to type it out in python 
[18:20] <chesedo> great
[18:58] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:59] <Langjan> Hello guys 
[18:59] <Langjan> anybody tried this? http://www.howtogeek.com/124286/how-to-uninstall-your-windows-product-key-before-you-sell-your-pc/
[19:00] <inetpro> Symmetria: what's with za.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[19:01] <inetpro> I've changed to ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za for now