[00:01] <ArtesMagae> Sean_McG: Maybe it is an issue with Windows 10?
[00:02] <Sean_McG> ArtesMagae: possibly. I don't know anyone who dual boots with Win10. Would surprise me if the bootloader has changed though.
[00:02] <Office_> how i add gulp top path?
[00:06] <ThePi> Hi, I recently switched from Kubuntu 15.04 to Ubuntu 16.04, I've been having a few issues I was hoping someone could help me with. Issue #1 is when i ctrl+alt+f2, i just get a black screen rather than a login prompt. The second issue is, back on kubuntu, i was able to play modded minecraft just fine, however since switching, the game sometimes freezes my entire laptop, sometimes for a few minutes before it recovers, other times it won't recover and
[00:06] <ThePi> requires me to do a hard reboot. I'm using the propritary nvidia drivers
[00:06] <ThePi> Could anyone point me in the right direction or give me some ideas of what to try?
[00:07] <P4NT0M> Hello, does anyone here use MATLAB?
[00:08] <Night_> state your question rather than beeing silly P4NT0M
[00:09] <P4NT0M> Sorry Night_ i don't understand why it's so slow when start up, i think that it might be a jvm problem, i would like to know if anyone had the same problem
[00:09] <Night_> low specs machine i would aasume
[00:09] <P4NT0M> nope
[00:10] <P4NT0M> i7-6700 on ssd 8Gb of ram
[00:10] <beqa> thanku
[00:10] <Sean_McG> Skylake for the win!
[00:10] <Night_> 8GB of ram?
[00:11] <Night_> my laptop had that 5 years ago
[00:11] <P4NT0M> yes
[00:11] <P4NT0M> i think that it's quiet enough for MATLAB
[00:12] <P4NT0M> and i doubt that it's a ram problem, it's slow on startup not after...
[00:12] <wedgie> P4NT0M: might ask your question in ##matlab as well *shrug*
[00:13] <Night_> what wedgie said
[00:13] <Sean_McG> ThePi: is Minecraft still Java-based on Linux?
[00:13] <ThePi> Sean_McG: yes
[00:13] <P4NT0M> i will
[00:15] <Sean_McG> ThePi: which version of the nvidia binary blob are you using?
[00:16] <ThePi> Sean_McG: 367
[00:16] <Sean_McG> (I seriously doubt Java is causing your system to lock up)
[00:16] <ThePi> Sean_McG: I also tried switching to the xorg driver but then the game wouldn't even start up, some sort of opengl error
[00:16] <Sean_McG> ThePi: which GPU?
[00:17] <ThePi> Sean_McG: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 630M] (rev a1)
[00:18] <Sean_McG> hmmm... old enough that 367 is probably fine.
[00:19] <KB3VGW> I think there is a  issue with the phppgadmin pkg
[00:19] <KB3VGW> it shul dnot be forcing apache to install
[00:20] <Sean_McG> errrrr... you sure about that? can nginx host php?
[00:20] <KB3VGW> yes
[00:20] <KB3VGW> nginx has done php forever
[00:21] <scott> unbuntu rules
[00:21] <KB3VGW> no it needs to clean its pkgs up
[00:22] <Guest44044> eh?
[00:22] <KB3VGW> no php/python interface should force install a web server
[00:22] <Guest44044> double partition son. 7 and unbuntu yea boi
[00:22] <KB3VGW> since nginx can serve these up also
[00:23] <KB3VGW> and lighttp can also
[00:23] <Guest44044> wtf yall talkin bout man?
[00:23] <KB3VGW> so forcing apache is wrong
[00:23] <Guest44044> this geek code linkgo or somin?
[00:23] <Sean_McG> ThePi: not sure what to say... maybe it's an issue with Mesa, or nVidia's OpenGL driver
[00:23] <Guest44044> im just kiddin yall
[00:23] <Guest44044> oh i must have missed the beginning of this conversation
[00:24] <Guest44044> something about a driver issue with software troubleshooting involved?
[00:24] <Sean_McG> ThePi: surprised it would cause a lock-up though. Maybe try with a newer Java runtime?
[00:24] <ThePi> Sean_McG: I'll grab openjdk9 and see if that helps
[00:25] <nacc> KB3VGW: you have to tell your system that you know how to solve the dependencies in that case, aiui
[00:25] <nacc> KB3VGW: by default, for ease of use, apache is the first dep used
[00:25] <nacc> KB3VGW: but if you are using nginx, you probably have php installed, which also satisfied the dep
[00:25] <KB3VGW> but the app should not force the apache in pkhg\s
[00:26] <KB3VGW> or it should give a option of the webserver to use
[00:26] <KB3VGW> follow the unix norm
[00:26] <Sean_McG> nacc: for curiousities sake, how is that handled? the alternatives subsystem?
[00:26] <KB3VGW> how to tell it nginx
[00:28] <Guest44044> how do you browse other chats on this?
[00:28] <nacc> Sean_McG: Depends: libapache2-mod-php | php-cgi | php
[00:28] <KB3VGW> back
[00:28] <Sean_McG> oh
[00:29] <nacc> Sean_McG: one of those need to be present for nginx to be phppgadmin to be satisfied
[00:29] <KB3VGW> it is
[00:29] <Vix_96> Hey guys, so I have a problem if you could help me out. I shut down my Ubuntu laptop the other day. I have a MacBook Pro 8, 3 . So I shut it down and I turn it on again and I get a weird white screen that appears and it fades in. It fades in until it becomes really bright and then it goes black. I've tried changing the kernel parameters, I've boote
[00:29] <Vix_96> d into the machine in recovery mode but it looks terrible. I've tried wiping the hard drive all together and reinstalling but it still has the same problem. I'm lost... Any help would be appreciated..
[00:30] <nacc> KB3VGW: if php is already installed, phppgadmin should not install libapache2-mod-php
[00:30] <sintre> vix> try a live dvd/usb
[00:30] <KB3VGW> seems php-cgi is not a default php phg
[00:30] <nacc> KB3VGW: 'phg'?
[00:31] <KB3VGW> php-cgi
[00:31] <nacc> KB3VGW: no, as I just said, libapache2-mod-php is the default SAPI
[00:31] <nacc> KB3VGW: based upon the above order, if you want php-cgi, you need to tell apt that
[00:31] <Sean_McG> it's probably a vietual package that something else provides
[00:31] <Sean_McG> virtual, even
[00:31] <nacc> Sean_McG: what is?
[00:32] <Vix_96> Any ideas?
[00:32] <Sean_McG> something for nginx presumably satisfies the php-cgi dependancy
[00:32] <Sean_McG> (nota bene: I use Apache on my Ubuntu box)
[00:33] <jack190> i need gfx for an ap
[00:33] <jack190> someone from the uk
[00:34] <jack190> simple gfx
[00:34] <jack190> scalar
[00:34] <Vix_96> I can boot in and see everything in recovery mode...
[00:34] <nacc> Sean_McG: well, no, that's not how nginx works
[00:34] <sintre> vix try a live cd/usb and make sure not a hardware issue
[00:34] <jack190> pm me if you;re native english speaking and can do scalar graphics
[00:35] <Vix_96> I have.
[00:35] <Sean_McG> nacc: fair enough
[00:35] <sintre> and does it work?
[00:35] <Vix_96> It's not. Works fine.
[00:35] <nacc> Sean_McG: iirc, many people use php-fpm and nginx
[00:35] <KB3VGW-> where is it installing phppgadmin its no in var/www where it should be
[00:35] <Vix_96> With the exception of Ethernet wired connection thinking it's wifi and I can't get internet
[00:36] <Vix_96> It's perfect
[00:36] <nacc> KB3VGW-: /usr/share/phppgadmin ?
[00:36] <KB3VGW-> ok
[00:36] <nacc> KB3VGW-: with an apache and php config file in /etc, iirc
[00:36] <nacc> another reason that it defaults to using apache --^ it doesn't shipt any configuration for running under anything else :)
[00:37] <jack190> looking for a vector gfx artist
[00:37] <jack190> for phone / tablet
[00:37] <Sean_McG> wrong channel son
[00:37] <Vix_96> I know that Mac's are known for their difficulty with linux, but it's a pain in the neck.
[00:38] <jack190> which channel then?
[00:38] <jack190> sunbeam
[00:38] <sintre> vix> never had a mac so honestly don't know where to go from here
[00:38]  * Sean_McG shrugs, this is for Ubuntu support
[00:38] <jack190> k sorry
[00:38] <nacc> !alis | jack190
[00:38] <Vix_96> Fair enough
[00:38] <jack190> goodnight
[00:39] <sintre> vix> but certainly not to much support from apple to help rival os work on their machines but if you dig in enough forums you'll probally find some guide posts atleast
[00:39] <Vix_96> It's so weird though. Never seen anything like it. And from my googling, neither has anyone else...
[00:40] <sintre> vix> might get me banned but if this install doesn't have much dedication files setting ect. , maybe try a different distro and see if that works
[00:43] <Sean_McG> Apple very definitely has no vested interest in helping anyone run anything other than MacOS on their hardware -- with the small exception of dual-booting Windows, but that is most likely because their customers made a big fuss.
[00:43] <Vix_96> I've had luck with feddy... Might go that route, at least to confirm it's not a hardw issue
[00:43] <Sean_McG> (disclaimer: I was once an Apple fanboy, no longer.)
[00:44] <Vix_96> Yeah, getting rid of this old Mac first chance I get... Getting Lenovo.
[00:44] <sintre> nice vix
[00:44] <Vix_96> I heard they're the best for using any Linux distribution...
[00:45] <sintre> my new but buddget lappyuses ddr3 lv , but when shoping around seems most leveno mavchine using ddr4 now
[00:45] <sintre> well that depends lol
[00:45] <sintre> more user config but certainly better than a apple brick
[00:45] <Vix_96> I'm going to start the long process of putting MacOS back on the comouter... I single boot btw
[00:46] <sintre> gl i know the pain
[00:46] <Vix_96> Maybe restoring some sort of system driver through a hidden OSX partition will fix something...
[00:50] <Vix_96> Starting now... Getting sick and tired of apple man...
[00:51] <sintre> gl man
[00:51] <Night_> lol
[00:51] <Sean_McG> ditto
[00:51] <Vix_96> Long night... Sorry to take up your r time guys peace...
[00:51] <Night_> how can you be tierd of apple .p
[00:51] <Night_> i never touch the crap
[01:01] <hahuang65> I'm having some trouble with Gnome's network manager's OpenVPN (or possibly OpenVPN in general). My connection succeeds, but it looks like most of the internet doesn't work. I can connect to certain company sites, but nothing else (even though the same config on another machine allows me to connect everywhere)
[01:02] <Sean_McG> possibly a VPN policy issue?
[01:04] <hahuang65> Sean_McG: nope, this appears to be a Gnome Network Manager thing. It works with `openvpn --config /path/to/config`
[01:04] <hahuang65> Sean_McG: like it said, on my other machine, it works fine. This VPN doesn't block anything, only grants access to some internal sites.
[01:10] <hahuang65> not sure what to do
[01:11] <Sean_McG> <-- no experience with openvpn, probably should not have chimed in
[01:11] <carlos_> olaa!!
[01:13] <carlos_> hello
[01:13] <badtaste_U2> ola
[01:13] <carlos_> ola
[01:13] <carlos_> boa noite
[01:13] <badtaste_U2> hello
[01:13] <badtaste_U2> ele sabe!!!
[01:14] <carlos_> sou novo aqui
[01:14] <badtaste_U2> aqui eh ingles
[01:14] <carlos_> sou pessimo em ingles
[01:15] <carlos_> hahaha
[01:15] <sintre> mia el gringo?
[01:15] <sintre> my maintance guy calls me that  :P
[01:15] <star314> Hello, I've a quick question. In a new ubuntu setup, the network interface and the hard disk is named something like /dev/en0d8 instead of /dev/eth0. How can I change this?
[01:16] <\9> star314: it's a new convention that has obsoleted the old one
[01:16] <\9> why do you need the old naming?
[01:16] <\9> the hard drives are the same as before
[01:16] <badtaste_U2> good to know that
[01:17] <Sean_McG> I didn't nptoce until now but mine is called eth2. I wonder what claimed eth0 and eth1.
[01:17] <Sean_McG> notice, even
[01:17] <\9> Sean_McG: not necessarily anything. devices names are pretty arbitrary
[01:18] <\9> i suppose it just happens to be eth0 most of the time
[01:18] <\9> before the new convention anyway
[01:19] <star314> Yeah, but /dev/en0d8 is really annoying. Fedora provides an option to revert back to the old syntax? Is this not possible in Debian or Ubuntu?
[01:19] <carlos_> Is there someone who speaks my language?
[01:20] <badtaste_U2> knowing what en0d8 means may help us
[01:20] <carlos_> Portuguese
[01:20] <sintre> if thats spansih i blieve there is an entire ubuntu forum for spanish speakers
[01:20] <sintre> ahh , hmm but i know brazil has alot of open source advocates
[01:21] <sintre> but couldn't help you find the chat room/forum as i don't speak it
[01:21] <star314> badtaste_U2: That is the uefi-internal name for the network card.
[01:21] <zykotick9> Sean_McG: debian's 70 factoid might be of interest to you?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23656481/
[01:22] <star314> In older ubuntu versions is should be eth0
[01:22] <\9> star314: it seems to be a systemd thing. more info here http://askubuntu.com/a/689143
[01:22] <cerealguy> hello all
[01:22] <badtaste_U2> star314, now Im more puzzled... what UEFI have to do w/ that?
[01:22] <JonelethIrenicus> any help here? Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:22] <JonelethIrenicus>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5mailcommon-plugins_4%3a16.04.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa61_amd64.deb
[01:23] <wedgie> !pt | carlos
[01:23] <badtaste_U2> star314, ok,ok - I think it have to do w/ BIOS and resource allocation - I thought UEFI as "boot" only
[01:23] <cerealguy> i'm running 16.10, Unity desktop, and installed Gnome b/c i was bored.  But now when i boot into Unity, I can't get my trackpad to respond to tap with one finger or tap with two fingers.  i've done some googling but none of the solutions have worked for me.  wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot
[01:24] <carlos_> Good night, everyone!
[01:24] <carlos_> :)
[01:25] <sintre> bon noche carlos
[01:25] <star314> badtaste_U2: In fedora the fix is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[01:26] <star314> But this does not seem to work in ubuntu/debian
[01:26] <badtaste_U2> star314, ok. a kernel boot parameter
[01:27] <badtaste_U2> star314, maybe they have spare documentation for kernel parms for ubuntu?
[01:27] <Sean_McG> zykotick9: ahh cheers, I haven't messed with udev at all
[01:29] <star314> badtaste_U2: I don't care about the name of the network interface. However, my harddisk is also renamedt. Usually it was /dev/sda1, now it is /dev/prn0d<something<
[01:29] <Bashing-om> star314: : See: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ . Here ther is explaned how to revert the name .
[01:31] <badtaste_U2> Bashing-om, hi!
[01:32] <badtaste_U2> messing w/ udev wont resolve? - it may be dangerous
[01:32] <badtaste_U2> im a sufferer of udev chickeness
[01:33] <star314> Bashing-om: Using udev to rename the device is not a good idea because there are please of services which still refer to the cryptic name.
[01:34] <sintre> not much help , but if its just annoying , then let it be for a bit maybe you'll get used to it
[01:34] <sintre> what i do when i can't fix stuff :)
[01:37] <Bashing-om> star314: That is true , not always a good thing to do to change the name in udev .
[01:38] <badtaste_U2> ok guys
[01:38] <badtaste_U2> I kicked a bad one
[01:38] <sintre> ?
[01:40] <Bashing-om> sintre: ubuntu is always fixable, given time and effort . When your frustation level threshold is exceeded there is the nuclear option - RE-install .
[01:41] <cerealguy> fixed it
[01:41] <sintre> Bashing-om ahh lol thought you were warning of us of kick from chat or something
[01:41] <cerealguy> xinput set-prop 12 290 1
[01:41] <sintre> i have been kicked so i like for warning :)
[01:41] <cerealguy> 12 is the id for the touchpad from xinput
[01:42] <cerealguy> ...wait does this mean i'm finally l337?
[01:43] <badtaste_U2> heehe
[01:43] <sintre> lol people still use the |337
[01:44] <sintre> i remembe rthe code word pr0n ohh the late 90's so much fun on dial up
[01:44] <badtaste_U2> thats phun
[01:44] <sintre> hey its code word no ban for violating :P
[01:44] <profetik777> whats up!
[01:45] <profetik777> newbie here
[01:45] <badtaste_U2> hello
[01:45] <profetik777> just bored and wanna chat linux
[01:45] <sintre> hi shoot
[01:45] <badtaste_U2> cool
[01:45] <profetik777> Sweet...so anyone here using ubuntu phone?
[01:45] <profetik777> if so how is it so far? Im thinking about buying a nexus 5 and making something out of it.
[01:46]  * sintre hearasa crickets
[01:47] <profetik777> no one?
[01:47] <Menzador> !ot | profetik777
[01:47] <zykotick9> !phone | profetik777
[01:48] <badtaste_U2> profetik777, the last stuff I heard from that front was about a "ubuntu touch"
[01:48] <profetik777> ok.
[01:48] <badtaste_U2> profetik777, but their images are for mainstream devices (I think Nexus may be ok)
[01:49] <Keydns> hi
[01:49] <profetik777> Yeah, I'm dying for convergence already....can't wait...but I guess I will have to
[01:49] <Keydns> i want to know what program i should use to taech my little cousin how to type
[01:49] <badtaste_U2> profetik777, in my case I would have to look for all my chipset SOC stuff and risk a "compatible" image
[01:50] <badtaste_U2> Keydns, theres a good one from GNU
[01:50] <profetik777> Yeah, its a bummer it isn't as easy to install like it is on desktop.
[01:51] <Keydns> badtaste_U2 how do i get a hold of it?
[01:51] <badtaste_U2> Keydns, I tried and - it would take to "relearn to type" - a bloody painfull process that would disable ,my current typing while learning to do it right
[01:51] <badtaste_U2> Keydns, is a simple console app
[01:52] <Keydns> does it have a name?
[01:52] <profetik777> Anyone using Wayland yet?
[01:52] <badtaste_U2> Keydns, gtype... something like that
[01:52] <Keydns> thank you
[01:52] <Keydns> will do some searching now
[01:52] <jackvpn> hi guys< Best vpn for device ? any help ?
[01:52] <badtaste_U2> Keydns, gtypist
[01:52] <profetik777> I heard its shipped with Fedora 25, gotta take it for a spin.
[01:53] <profetik777> I won't be surprised if they drop MIR in a couple years for wayland if it ends up being better
[01:54] <profetik777> gez so many people in the room but no one talks...weird.
[01:54] <badtaste_U2> profetik777, whats that? grapgical server?
[01:54] <badtaste_U2> graphical
[01:54] <profetik777> yah. I don't know enough about Tech, but I always wondered
[01:54] <sintre> well talking is kinda forbidden lol
[01:54] <sintre> or atleast chatting about anything non supporet related
[01:55] <badtaste_U2> I better go - tks for the chat guys
[01:55] <profetik777> lol
[01:55] <profetik777> same here
[01:55] <profetik777> ::facepalm:: support channel, dur
[01:55] <profetik777> have  a good oen folks.
[01:55] <profetik777> one*
[01:56] <Bashing-om> profetik777: chit-chat in #ubuntu-offtopic . Here is OS support .
[02:01] <dancingd3mon__> anyone speak Korean here?
[02:03] <sintre> i believe there is a korean ubuntu channel
[02:03] <sintre> don't don't speak korean but , sure somebody will chime in
[02:03] <wedgie> !ko
[02:05] <richardjones> Hi there , I want to change my public ip to a name ?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> richardjones: Details . As your IP is a lot like your mailing address. if ya change your address how will you get your mail ?
[02:09] <squinty> psychic drone
[02:23] <richardjones> Bashing-om, I mean i have a webserver running on public ip but i want to change it to name
[02:25] <wedgie> richardjones: you need to buy a domain
[02:26] <wedgie> which is probably pretty off topic here
[02:41] <JonelethIrenicus> please help fix this
[02:41] <JonelethIrenicus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkf5mailcommon/+bug/1637829
[02:43] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: it will get fixed via the bug, not via this channel (typically)
[02:44] <totallyserious> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/331553/a-process-to-check-if-other-processes-are-running Anyone know of something for this?
[02:44] <nacc> totallyserious: it's a pretty trivial bash script?
[02:45] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: just hoping for a work around
[02:45] <JonelethIrenicus> right now my scaling is busted
[02:46] <JonelethIrenicus> 4k display with busted scaling is no fun
[02:48] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: i guess pick one or the other to install?
[02:48] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: not sure, sorry
[02:48] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: required packages for plasma
[02:51] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: ah
[02:51] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: you might be able to convince it to allow the packages through via dpkg's --force-overwrite flag
[02:51] <nacc> if only one needs upgrading
[02:51] <nacc> but you might want to first verify they are the same
[03:02] <jack190> anyone to package my software?
[03:02] <morf> ha
[03:02] <jack190> i give you credit
[03:03] <jack190> nevermind
[03:04] <jack190> i've had tens of thousands of downloads
[03:04] <jack190> google is 'span-gles''
[03:09] <jack190> any in to do svg for a big %
[03:26] <pac1> #raspberrypi
[03:36] <posi> Is virtualbox ext pack broken? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/KmGpqx5T/
[03:36] <posi> Hash mismatch Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-5.0.24.vbox-extpack
[03:39] <Menzador> posi: It's not the latest extension pack for VBox. Are you using 5.1?
[03:40] <posi> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XfOcFOYW/I%20seem%20to%20be%20using%205.0.24
[03:41] <posi> 5.0.24
[03:41] <posi> what ppa is best? I'm on xenial
[03:42] <posi> Menzador:
[03:43] <Menzador> posi: First, did you download the extension pack from the VirtualBox Web site?
[03:44] <posi> apt
[03:44] <posi> Menzador:
[03:44] <posi> i installed vagrant
[03:44] <posi> is all
[03:44] <Menzador> posi: It also appears that we're the only ones supporting that version of VBox now.
[03:45] <Menzador> posi: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads has instructions for adding the VBox repo. Support for it can be found over in #vbox.
[03:45] <posi> Menzador: rgr that, have a great evening!
[03:46] <posi> can confirm. If you remove virtualbox, you can't run the command  virtualbox-ext-pack. Thanks for the workaround. Will someone file a bug to the right person? or do i need to do that. If so what's the proper protocol?
[03:47] <Menzador> There is no "virtualbox-ext-pack" command...
[03:47] <Menzador> Just remove it with [ sudo apt remove virtualbox-ext-pack && sudo apt autoremove ]
[03:52] <conn> Hello...
[03:53] <manufactur3d> hello
[04:16] <posi> Menzador: Sorry I meant package not command
[04:20] <Literpho_> I have an Ubuntu VM where an app on port 8000 is accessible from local host but not from outside of the VM. Wh is this the case? I don't have this issue with other apps
[04:20] <Menzador> posi: Did you try the command I listed?
[04:21] <ds> hello...  not quite ubuntu, but i have a multimedia xfce question if anyone uses that
[04:21] <posi> Menzador: i ran all of the apt commands you listed
[04:21] <posi> I also installed the ppa you linked to
[04:21] <posi> I was able to install other versions of linux
[04:21] <posi> err
[04:21] <posi> virtualbox for linux
[04:22] <posi> i lied it wasn't a ppa, it was a key and a source.list entry
[04:22] <daniel_> anyone willing to help me out with my 3tb hdd's only showing 1.8TiB, I'm pulling my hair out
[04:22] <kk4ewt> you sure its a 3t and not a 2
[04:23] <manufactur3d> what does fdisk -l show for the disk?
[04:23] <Menzador> posi: Usually when you add a new repo in the way VBox wants you to add it, you do [ echo deb <repo_location> | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<name_of_program>.list ]
[04:25] <posi> That command makes sense
[04:25] <posi> I am familiar with the new sources.list.d makeup. I also am a big fan of tee.
[04:25] <mrod> I have a simple bridge setup for VM networking. For some reason, I can't prevent eth0 from getting an IP address anymore. I've disabled NetworkManager, but br0 and eth0 continue to get the same address: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23657095/ Here's my /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:26] <daniel_> yeah, i've got 3 wd red 3tb drives. have tried on 3 different computers. one of the disk's show the full 3tb the others only 1.8
[04:26] <daniel_> No problems found. 3907073067 free sectors (1.8 TiB) available in 1
[04:26] <daniel_> segments, the largest of which is 3907073067 (1.8 TiB) in size.
[04:27] <daniel_> even in the bios only one disk shows 3tb
[04:29] <kk4ewt> pastebin the fdisk -l
[04:29] <kk4ewt> you sure thats not a ssd-spin combo drive
[04:39] <daniel_> all disk have been converted to
[04:40] <daniel_> http://pastebin.com/TKuZP5sH
[04:40] <Literpho_> I have an Ubuntu VM where an app on port 8000 is accessible from local host but not from outside of the VM. Wh is this the case? I don't have this issue with other apps
[04:40] <daniel_> at the moment the (good) drive is not conected
[04:42] <linux_user> I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to watch Youtube videos it rarely works right
[04:42] <linux_user> I have to refresh it upteen zillion times to finally watch it.
[04:43] <linux_user> I have resorted to using youtube-dl to get them
[04:43] <linux_user> but I really want to be able to watch youtube videos in firefox, what can I try to fix?
[04:47]  * linux_user I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to watch Youtube videos it rarely works right, the firefox variant I have is: 50.1.0. I have to refresh the page ZILLIONS of times before it finally plays, and thus out of pure frustration resorted to using youtube-dl to download and then use something else to watch them. It is an extremely circuitous methodology to use and I wish to fix it. Can anyone suggest any 
[04:47]  * linux_user solutions or things to test?
[04:48] <DHEGLENK> lady
[04:49] <pine0> peppercorn bingbong?
[04:50] <bingbong> nup
[04:50] <linux_user> pepe le 'bingbong?
[04:51] <daniel_> the disks have been formated to gpt, i've tried zeroing them in gdisk, tried formating gpt in gdisk, I'm at my wits end
[04:57]  * linux_user I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to watch Youtube videos it rarely works right, the firefox variant I have is: 50.1.0. I have to refresh the page ZILLIONS of times before it finally plays, and thus out of pure frustration resorted to using youtube-dl to download and then use something else to watch them. It is an extremely circuitous methodology to use and I wish to fix it. Can anyone suggest any 
[04:57]  * linux_user solutions or things to test?
[05:02]  * linux_user I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to watch Youtube videos it rarely works right, the firefox variant I have is: 50.1.0. I have to refresh the page ZILLIONS of times before it finally plays, and thus out of pure frustration resorted to using youtube-dl to download and then use something else to watch them. It is an extremely circuitous methodology to use and I wish to fix it. Can anyone suggest any 
[05:02]  * linux_user solutions or things to test?
[05:02] <wyoung> linux_user: could be a number of things
[05:02] <wyoung> linux_user: and repeating your question within 5 minutes is frowned apon.
[05:04] <frbeyer> I have a "bad habbit" to disable media.mp4.enabled and media.mediasource.mp4.enabled at about:config. See if it works. :-)
[05:04] <wyoung> linux_user: It could be: Your Internet, your internal network (especially if you are using wifi), your video card, your video drivers, firefox plugins conflicting with it, something resource intensive on your PC causing slow performance, a number of other factors
[05:04] <linux_user> well, no one was responding at all, and there many users here. So, I figured if I repeated it I'd at least find out if anyone saw it.
[05:04] <wyoung> linux_user: It is probably bed time
[05:05] <linux_user> what would you recommend me starting with first? which of those is the low hanging fruit?
[05:05] <wyoung> linux_user: the order that I wrote it in
[05:05] <pine0> is there an elementary os irc?
[05:06] <pine0> got it
[05:06] <wyoung> linux_user: try basics first, cables, are things on, turning things off and on again, then do some benchmarks for Internet and network  speeds, etc..
[05:06] <linux_user> well my network seems to be fine, I ran a speed test a while ago and webpages from foxnews with video download and function fine.
[05:06] <kostkon> linux_user, try in another browser, like chrome
[05:06] <linux_user> it is something specific to the way youtube is working
[05:06] <linux_user> ok...
[05:06] <linux_user> thats a good idea, lemme do that!
[05:06] <linux_user> I'll try the exact same link
[05:07] <kostkon> linux_user, are you on 16.04?
[05:08] <linux_user> yes
[05:08] <wyoung> LTS <3
[05:08] <linux_user> yes, 16.04 but going to upgrade to 16.10 eventually (just need to get a new external drive for a backup first)
[05:09] <Bashing-om> linux_user: Another thought; Flash up2date " dpkg -l flashplugin-installer >> ii  flashplugin-in 24.0.0.186ub  " ?
[05:09] <frbeyer> well, well, linux_user, have you tried to also disable media.mp4.enabled and media.mediasource.mp4.enabled?
[05:09] <wyoung> Flash is still a thing?
[05:10] <linux_user> Downloads is 33.61Mbps, I think that is pretty peppy
[05:10] <wyoung> I thought HTML5 fixed the need for Flash
[05:10] <frbeyer> can you also send the yt link you trying to watch?
[05:10] <linux_user> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCAuCOYXi70
[05:11] <linux_user> that is the link I was trying to watch but it happens all the time with other links too
[05:11] <roothorick> wyoung: on paper. Adoption has been slow.
[05:11] <linux_user> frbeyer, how do I disable the things you mentioned?
[05:11] <kostkon> linux_user, what exactly happens when the video fails to play?
[05:11] <frbeyer> type about:config at address bar.
[05:12] <linux_user> was told flashplugin-installer is passee and unsupport
[05:12] <linux_user> unsupported
[05:12] <linux_user> ii  browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash              0.3.6-1~webupd8~xenial6        amd64                          PPAPI-host NPAPI-plugin adapter for pepperflash
[05:12] <Triffid_Hunter> linux_user: tried forcing youtube to html5?
[05:12] <linux_user> how do I do that?
[05:12] <linux_user> force it to html5?
[05:12] <linux_user> how?
[05:12] <kostkon> linux_user, did you install that?
[05:12] <Triffid_Hunter> linux_user: go to https://youtube.com/html5 and enable the thingy from memory
[05:13] <frbeyer> I think youtube defaults to html5
[05:13] <linux_user> I just installed it now
[05:13] <Triffid_Hunter> linux_user: html5 videos have worked fine for me here for ages, although my versions are different to yours
[05:13] <Triffid_Hunter> frbeyer: oh? that's new
[05:13] <Triffid_Hunter> frbeyer: had to opt-in via that link last time I checked
[05:14] <linux_user> The HTML5 player is currently used when possible. and it has a checkmark next to it
[05:14] <linux_user> I installed it tonight I had flashplayer-installer before
[05:14] <Alon7> How do u avoid viruses in windows os? anti-virus + sandboxed browser?
[05:14] <linux_user> but that didn't work either
[05:14] <linux_user> should I switch back to flashplayer-installer?
[05:15] <linux_user> I can reinstall it if that is the problem
[05:16] <linux_user> it puts a F in a circle there and sits there unendingly
[05:16] <Triffid_Hunter> Alon7: off topic, and you basically can't
[05:16] <linux_user> then it puts a play button (arrow in a circle facing right), so when I click it then it just sits there doing nothing
[05:16] <Triffid_Hunter> linux_user: I find youtube sometimes tries to load the flash player despite my html5 setting.. since I've removed flash completely it doesn't work well and in those cases I resort to downloading
[05:17] <linux_user> I see
[05:17] <linux_user> so under linux its very hard to watch youtube in a browser you mean?
[05:17] <Triffid_Hunter> linux_user: seems to only happen on videos where the publisher has enabled multiple video ads and disabled viewing on "devices" which don't support showing them
[05:17] <Triffid_Hunter> linux_user: 98% of videos work perfectly for me
[05:18] <linux_user> 100% for me do NOT
[05:18] <Triffid_Hunter> linux_user: tried chrome/chromium yet?
[05:18] <linux_user> yes, same problem there too
[05:18] <linux_user> oh wait
[05:18] <linux_user> hang on
[05:19] <linux_user> I was on the wrong browser window
[05:19] <frbeyer> possibly not. The video is working fine.
[05:19] <linux_user> let me check chromiumn
[05:19] <frbeyer> but it is only encoded using h264 and vp8.
[05:19] <frbeyer> no vp9.
[05:20] <linux_user> it says if playback doesn't start try restarting your device
[05:20] <linux_user> what device? Its firefox!
[05:21] <linux_user> I should restart firefox?
[05:23] <turbo64> yo
[05:23] <turbo64> how do i mount ntfs-3g read only in fstab
[05:31] <mukluks> anyone know how to get systray working for pidgin on 16.10 ?
[05:31] <linux_user> still not luck with firefox and youtube
[05:32] <mukluks> linux_user: what's wrong?
[05:33] <linux_user> cannot watch youtube videos in firefox
[05:36] <mukluks> what error?
[05:37] <linux_user> cannot watch youtube videos in firefox on Ubuntu 16.04 with Firefox
[05:37] <linux_user> no error just doesn't work
[05:37] <linux_user> some curvey f with a dick sticking out http://www.iconarchive.com/show/software-icons-by-hopstarter/Macromedia-Flash-Player-icon.html
[05:39] <crazyhorse18> how does one disable workspaces?
[05:40] <crazyhorse18> found it :P
[05:40] <crazyhorse18> appearance
[05:54] <wafflejock> linux_user, it's trying to load flash player plugin, with YouTube it should be using HTML5 video
[05:55] <wafflejock> linux_user, you can maybe check the preferences here but think default is to go with HTML5 now https://www.youtube.com/html5
[05:55] <DHEGLENK> ooohh
[05:57] <linux_user> I did and it put a check mark next to everything on there
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !ping
[06:08] <linux_user> what preference do I check wafflejock?
[06:08] <linux_user> do you know the name of it in about:config?
[06:11] <wafflejock> linux_user, eh well there's just Youtube account settings on the page I linked to have it prefer HTML5 video, it's possible the video you're trying to watch was encoded before they did the encoding for HTML5 codecs have you tried a few videos?
[06:11] <wafflejock> linux_user, you can also install the flash player plugin if you want to actually use flash player but for the most part it's not really necessary and has a bad history of security issues
[06:12] <linux_user> 1 second
[06:12] <wafflejock> running out bbiab
[06:13] <linux_user> getting some sleep
[06:13] <linux_user> its 1:15am
[06:14] <bahaa2008> hi guys
[06:14] <bahaa2008>  I have a problem booting my xubuntu netbook
[06:14] <bahaa2008> It fails to initramfs
[06:15] <bahaa2008> anyone can help ?
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !patience | bahaa2008
[06:17] <linux_user> that guy asked the question once.
[06:26] <Nicho1as> Hi, I need an efficient software load balancer for my vsftpd cluster thingy; could anyone recommend one to me?
[06:29] <wyoung> Nicho1as: squid? apache? *shrugs*  what is vsftpd again?
[06:30] <wafflejock> Nicho1as, this may help http://serverfault.com/questions/488668/load-balancing-between-2-ftp-servers, have only done some minimal load balancing stuff with WebSphere myself so not sure what's recommended on Ubuntu
[06:31] <wafflejock> Nicho1as, you may want to try #ubuntu-server though or maybe even ##networking
[06:31] <wyoung> wafflejock +=
[06:31] <wyoung> wafflejock += 1
[06:40] <Nicho1as> wyoung: it's a very secure ftpd
[06:41] <Nicho1as> wafflejock: Thank you very much for the advice
[06:41] <iMadper> Hi I got ssl.SSLError: [X509] PEM lib (_ssl.c:3053) when I try to add-apt-repository ppa:~kernel-ppa/mainline . Is there any workarounds for it?
[06:41] <haive> hello
[06:42] <haive> any chines？
[06:42] <iMadper> haive: Chinese? I am.
[06:42] <cfhowlett> !cn | iMadper
[06:42] <cfhowlett> !cn | haive
[06:43] <iMadper> ubot9: No need. I will not input Chinese in this channel.
[06:47] <wyoung> Nicho1as: It supports FTP server to FTP server transferring?
[06:53] <Toggi3> these spam messages, every day lol
[06:53] <Nicho1as> wyoung: I actually don't know about that
[06:53] <Toggi3> who did kloeri piss off?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Toggi3, set your mode to +R and no unregged msg's will appear
[06:54] <cfhowlett> and/or add the send to /ignore
[06:54] <Nicho1as> wyoung: transferring what?
[06:54] <newbie90> !id
[06:56] <Toggi3> cfhowlett: thanks for the tip
[06:56] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Toggi3
[06:56] <itholiday> 书加个好友啊
[06:56] <itholiday> 新手，，
[06:56] <cfhowlett> itholiday, english only in this channel please
[06:57] <iMadper> itholiday: stop using Chinese in this channel.
[06:57] <itholiday> OK，
[06:58] <itholiday> I want to join a "菜鸟" channel.
[06:58] <cfhowlett> itholiday, do this          /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:58] <iMadper> itholiday: I noticed that you are already existed in ubuntu-cn.
[06:59] <itholiday> Got it!
[07:14] <MOUD> Hey all
[07:20] <cracken> bnjr
[07:20] <cracken> bonjour comment allez vous ?
[07:20] <sintre> i believe there is a french ubuntu channel
[07:21] <iMadper> just verified, there is a ubuntu-fr
[07:21] <hateball> !fr
[07:23] <cracken> s'il vous plait comment pourrai-je avoir la dernière verson de Netbeans sur Ubuntu 14
[07:23] <EriC^^> !info netbeans trusty
[07:24] <EriC^^> derniere version au repository official ^
[07:24] <EriC^^> 14.04
[07:24] <EriC^^> ubuntu
[07:26] <cracken> Merci #Eric^^
[07:26] <EriC^^> cracken: no problem
[07:33] <veni1> hello
[07:34] <veni1> is there someone bootloader pro? to help me on something pls?
[07:36] <hateball> !help | veni1
[07:36] <iMadper> veni1: Before you asking the question I'm not sure if I'm a bootloader pro.  lol  ;-)
[07:36] <veni1> ok guys
[07:37] <veni1> i ll make the question
[07:37] <iMadper> veni1: But if it's UEFI only question, then I am.
[07:38] <Triffid_Hunter> veni1: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ;)
[07:38] <lxleuser_> lxle and mint have a usb boot write in the programs
[07:39] <cfhowlett> lxleuser_, your question is ... ?
[07:39] <veni1> i want to create a submenu in the burg bootloader (sora them) in the options submenu to contain all the rest linux selections "recoveries and memtest"
[07:40] <veni1> i have already created the submenu but only the gui, now it needs some commands..
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !ppa | veni1, burg is a ppa
[07:42] <MOUD> Does ubuntu 16.04 automatically check for updates and download them?
[07:42] <iMadper> MOUD: seems no.
[07:42] <cfhowlett> MOUD, if your settings say so ..
[07:44] <MOUD> I just installed it, I'm not sure about the settings. But when I run "ps -A | grep apt", I get 2 sessions. "apt.systemd.dai" and "aptd". I'm not sure but I think it's using bandwidth.
[07:51] <sruli> i upgraded to 16.04, 1 of my java applications, doesnt start i get a java 9 crash error, how can i install java 8?
[07:52] <hateball> !java
[07:53] <iMadper> sruli: i'm using http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu
[07:53] <iMadper> sruli: It provides oracle-java8-installer. Just install it.
[07:54] <iMadper> sruli: Because my android-studio told me openjdk has some performance issues. So I choice oracle-jdk
[07:56] <sruli> hateball: i try to install jdk 9 but get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23657683/
[07:56] <jokx> sruli, you can use openjdk-8 by installing package : openjdk-8-jre
[07:57] <jokx> sruli: after what, sudo update-alternatives --all while let you choose your prefered default engine
[07:59] <jokx> sruli: and many other default choice
[08:01] <sruli> jokx: thanks that worked
[08:01] <sruli> so the problem was openjdk-9
[08:02] <jokx> yep :o)
[08:11] <Mathisen> Morning i have an issue trying to boot the installer for lubuntu on a ASUS x71SL but it halts everytime after choosing install or start live option.. tried 16.04 and 16.10 64 and 32 bit what can be the issue here ?
[08:11] <Mathisen> i just get a black screen no error no nothing
[08:13] <sniper> hi guys
[08:13] <lajb> Hey guys, I'm having some issues with the bluetooth on ubuntu mate 1.16 on a lenovo ideapad 510 15IKB. I asked this on askubuntu a week ago, but nobody answered. Could someone take a look at this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/859265/bluetooth-does-not-work-on-lenovo-ideapad-510-with-ubuntu-mate-1-16
[08:15] <sniper> I have a amd mobility hd 4570 on Dell studio 1555 connected to external monitor via VGA . I installed latest ubuntu and now there is some graphics curruption/ flicker/ tearing when i type something or move the mouse or open close anything. I connected it to a TV via HDMI and same problem. I tried to get the catalyst drivers but they are not available for new ubuntu. What can i do ?
[08:17] <veni1> so probably noone that is active can help me
[08:20] <sniper> @lajb I have the solution for you
[08:25] <gayfaggot> i've been banned from the offtopic channel
[08:25] <gayfaggot> i've done nothing wrong
[08:25] <gayfaggot> i'm here and i'm queer so get used to it
[08:25] <gayfaggot> fucking homophobes
[08:26] <sniper> gayfaggot, nice to see somone fabulous here
[08:26] <gayfaggot> sniper: thank god someone appreciates it cupcake
[08:26] <sniper> gayfaggot, can you run some of your fabulous magic on my ati graphics problem and fix it?
[08:26] <Ben64> sniper: best not to feed the trolls
[08:27] <sniper> Ben64, can you fix it then?
[08:27] <abhishek> Ben64, sniper is himself. Keeps sending stupid pms.
[08:28] <Ben64> sniper: i don't really do amd gpu stuff, sorry
[08:29] <red-zone404> hi
[08:29] <sniper> Ben64, and you scared away the fabulous guy who could know?
[08:29] <Mathisen> Morning i have an issue trying to boot the installer for lubuntu on a ASUS x71SL but it halts everytime after choosing install or start live option.. tried 16.04 and 16.10 64 and 32 bit what can be the issue here ? only get a black screen no error no nothing
[08:30] <sniper> Ben64, Those guys are good at fixing stuff you know
[08:30] <Mathisen> tried with nomodeset acpi = off and nolapic nothing...
[08:33] <sniper> Mathisen, first check your iso image and if it is properly written to disk and if it boots on another computer
[08:33] <Mathisen> sniper, ofc it does done this 100 times before
[08:34] <sniper> Mathisen, on the same laptop? Did it work before?
[08:34] <Mathisen> not on the same one no.. trying to figure out how to troubleshoot this
[08:34] <Mathisen> when it not giving any error its kinda hard
[08:34] <sniper> what graphics card u have
[08:35] <Mathisen> nvidia 9300m
[08:35] <Ben64> you could use the mini iso
[08:35] <sniper> does any other distro work on this?
[08:35] <Mathisen> tried the mini also Ben64 :(
[08:35] <Ben64> mini didn't work?
[08:35] <Mathisen> nope same thing
[08:36] <sniper> Mathisen, did you try any other distro? Manjaro ? Mint? Elementary?
[08:36] <sruli> Mathisen: are you using eufi?
[08:36] <Mathisen> nope old computer only legacy
[08:36] <Ben64> try 14.04?
[08:36] <Mathisen> that i have not done, give me 2 min a get it and do that
[08:37] <Ben64> if the mini iso doesn't work, something is weird
[08:37] <Ben64> might be a busted computer?
[08:38] <Mathisen> it boots windows installs
[08:38] <Mathisen> and runs it
[08:38] <sniper> Mathisen, then its jinxed
[08:38] <Mathisen> but need to replace vista that is on it now with a more "light" OS
[08:39] <sniper> Mathisen, try an older version of any other distro .. year 2014
[08:39] <sniper> Mathisen, see if it boots
[08:42] <Mathisen> same thing with the 14.04 mini.iso
[08:43] <Mathisen> il try another dist and see if anything works at all
[08:44] <sniper> Mathisen, best try any other distro not based on ubuntu/debian
[08:49] <k_sze[work]> What's the deal with libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-*?
[08:50] <reisio> good question
[08:50] <k_sze[work]> e.g. Why is there libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid for Trusty??
[08:50] <reisio> she's always leading me on
[08:52] <xxxx> can i ask about lubuntu here? grub problems..
[08:56] <xxxx> i install ubuntu and now lubuntu but the same unbooting problem.. no grub. how can i install it?
[08:56] <reisio> xxxx: how does it manifest, this problem?
[08:57] <xxxx> cannot turn off or reboot
[08:57] <xxxx> and i read a lot about missing grub
[08:57] <EriC^^> xxxx: which laptop?
[08:57] <Mathisen> okej tried another dist same issue but arch told me problem atleast it hangs on "probing edd" how to turn this off for ubuntu ? arch i just added edd=off
[08:58] <EriC^^> xxxx: ubuntu boots but you can't turn it off or reboot?
[08:58] <xxxx> now i have lubuntu -- acer 500hd 64 bit 2ram
[09:00] <EriC^^> xxxx: so it boots?
[09:01] <xxxx> yea, no problem to start (i'm on it)
[09:02] <EriC^^> xxxx: ok type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[09:02] <xxxx> ok
[09:03] <EriC^^> xxxx: add a "#" before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[09:04] <sruli> is there a way to snap to windows to use half screen width each?
[09:04] <reisio> sruli: install ccsm and look around
[09:04] <reisio> should be
[09:05] <EriC^^> sruli: ctrl+super  + left and right arrows
[09:05] <xxxx> wait (keyboard arrow ptroblems
[09:05] <sruli> EriC^^: thats works, great, thanks
[09:06] <EriC^^> sruli: no problem
[09:06] <xxxx> EriC^^: cannot do, arrow keys do NOT work
[09:07] <EriC^^> xxxx: type sudo sed -i 's/GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT/#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT/' /etc/default/grub
[09:09] <xxxx> EriC^^: thiss--- sed: -e expression #1, char 22: unterminated `s' command
[09:11] <EriC^^> xxxx: you might have a typo
[09:11] <Skaag> I can't seem to be able to get-edid on an hdmi connected display, is it supposed to "just work"™ or do I need to somehow point it to a specific device?
[09:11] <jarnos> Can you tell me why Software Updater stops to show changelog and ask user interaction (q) in details window? How to change it non-interactive (again)?
[09:12] <xxxx> ok, i figured out how to write on sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[09:12] <Skaag> I mean get-edid | parse-edid give me a single mode of 1024x768 which is clearly wrong (based on what I know about my display)
[09:12] <EriC^^> xxxx: ok, save it and type sudo update-grub
[09:12] <Mathisen> EriC^^, can you give me any clues about this  https://i.imgur.com/WP1xihU.jpg
[09:12] <UbuntuUr> Hey All
[09:12] <Mathisen> EriC^^, trying to get a install going
[09:13] <UbuntuUr> Have A big Problem ...   i've Deleted GRUB ,. And my pc now with out boot loader
[09:13] <UbuntuUr> What 2 do .. ELP !
[09:13] <xxxx> EriC^^: should i copy/paste to you?
[09:14] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: you can use the installation media to recreate your grub
[09:14] <Skaag> Mathisen: is this a laptop?
[09:15] <EriC^^> Mathisen: checking..
[09:15] <Mathisen> Skaag, yes
[09:15] <Skaag> Mathisen: I found this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103351 which implies you need a firmware upgrade
 : Thnkx ... But i don't have The iso File ...
[09:15] <EriC^^> xxxx: no, just type sudo update-grub
[09:15] <Skaag> see the 2nd comment on that bug report to try a temporary workaround
[09:15] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:15] <UbuntuUr> i'ts Large size ,,, and i have a really bad net connection
[09:16] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: Hmmm I see, you can try with a small ISO like netinstall
[09:16] <xxxx> EriC^^: well, no errors.. that's it?
 : Thnkx again ... Can you Give me an Example ?
[09:17] <Skaag> Mathisen: check if there's a UEFI update for your laptop
[09:18] <Mathisen> Skaag, its old one only got legacy
[09:18] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: You could even use a Debian netinstall just so it detects you OS, enough to boot back to ubuntu, then all you have to do is reinstall your grub once ubuntu is running, hold on....
[09:18] <Skaag> then try the workaround suggested on that thread
[09:18] <Mathisen> Skaag, not even sure there is a bios update but i can check
[09:18] <Skaag> Mathisen: just to be sure, try the workaround first, see that you're able to boot
[09:19] <EriC^^> Mathisen: is it a thinkpad?
 You Are Amazing .... But The Debian netinstall is 300mb ... and it still large 2 me ..
[09:19] <EriC^^> xxxx: yes that's it
[09:19] <Mathisen> EriC^^, asus x71SL
[09:19] <EriC^^> xxxx: next time you boot you should get a grub screen
[09:19] <xxxx> thanks a lot
[09:20] <EriC^^> xxxx: did you try adding acpi stuff for the reboot problems?
[09:20] <Mathisen> Skaag, just add " processor.max_cstate=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=0 idle=poll " ?
[09:20] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: Oh dear, then I don't know another way to recover a lost MBR, or grub
[09:20] <EriC^^> Mathisen: try looking in the bios for any security chip option
[09:20] <xxxx> nope, just installed lubuntu minutes ago
[09:21] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: These are like 50 MB each: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/16.04/?_ga=1.35862952.985524255.1480647410
[09:22] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: What version of Ubuntu?
 hmmmm ... i'll see ... Thnks
 my version is 16.04
[09:23] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: Then those images should work, google up a bit how to recover grub with netinstall
[09:24] <nacon_> a
[09:24] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: Or see if you can somehow create a temp grub in a USB drive
[09:24] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: then boot from that
 can i install the netinstall 2 another partition ? ...
[09:25] <sambagirl> morning. does ubuntu handle rotation for touchscreens?
[09:25] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: Actually if you have the extra partition and no sensitive information in it, then it will make it easier, just make sure that partition is empty or with data that is not important to you, because it will be erased
[09:26] <sambagirl> you know how it can bring up a virtual keypad maybe?
[09:27] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: It can be a very small installation, not even graphical, just enough so it recreates grub
[09:27] <pronet>  A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://deb.pinguin.lu ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C103FFFA8B45F50C
[09:27] <pronet> W: Failed to fetch http://deb.pinguin.lu/i386/./Release
[09:27] <pronet> W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:27] <Mnemonic^> Anyone inhere knows assembler?
 : ThnX !
[09:28] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: Sure! And best luck!!
[09:28] <joegiampaoli> UbuntuUr: Hope you pull her through...
[09:28] <sambagirl> asm?
[09:29] <sambagirl> do you use florence for virtual keyboard?
[09:29] <Mathisen> Skaag, tried the workaround it does not give any kernel panic anymore but hangs on "evm: HMAC attrs: 0x1"
[09:29] <unknown___> how can i replace upstart/plymouth ini with runit?
[09:30] <UbuntuUr> Hope That :)
[09:33] <xxxx> EriC^^: same, not reboot (dark screen) or turn off (lubuntu logo freezed), have to force with power button
[09:35] <xxxx> what's acpi?
[09:36] <Mnemonic^> Does anyone inhere know the way of the force=
[09:37] <reisio> use the force luks
[09:37] <EriC^^> xxxx: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep Windows
[09:37] <EriC^^> xxxx: which laptop model is it?
[09:37] <xxxx> aspire E 15 Start - no windows
[09:39] <xxxx> i make 6 partitions: 8g "swap" , 80g "/" , 320g "/home" , 5g /var , 5g /tmp , the other empty
[09:40] <reisio> ...
[09:41] <cfhowlett> Mnemonic^, avoid "... anyone ...?" questions.  state YOUR issues and YOUR specifications
[09:42] <jc> cupsd on 16.04 restarts at 06:25am every morning. Would it work to edit /lib/systemd/system/cups.service to remove the -l (run on demand) flag from the ExecStart line to prevent the service from restarting?
[09:48] <Mnemonic^> cfhowlett, I know .. I have been here for ever.. :) Just messing with you. :)
[09:48] <Mnemonic^> cfhowlett, Did you feel the StarWars question was a real problem that I had?
[10:21] <dayana> ciao
[10:23] <MarGul> Hey. When I go to /etc/php I have both 7.0 and 7.1 directories (so both installed). How do I use v7.0 instead of v7.1? When I do a phpinfo() I get version 7.1. Use nginx as a webserver.
[10:44] <adymitruk> I'm having some issues setting up outgoing email with postfix
[10:44] <adymitruk> I'm following the basic steps here: http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[10:44] <adymitruk> but the mydomain settings are not taking effect
[10:47] <adymitruk> is there a better irc channel for getting help with postfix?
[10:51] <brainwash> adymitruk: #postfix
[11:25] <Darkchaos> Hey Guys, Is there a known reason why (K)Ubuntu doesn't support the Media Keys on the Keyboard by default? You can hack your way around, but I think that is something which should work out of the box
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Darkchaos, laptop?
[11:26] <Darkchaos> Nope, "Roccat Ryos MK Pro", which seems to have a dedicated driver. Should it work by default?
[11:26] <Darkchaos> [Considering that stuff like https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard/MultimediaKeys is 6 years old]
[11:30] <brainwash> Darkchaos: did you install the driver?
[11:31] <Darkchaos> Nope, it is a stock Kubuntu 16.10 (But I asked here, since I thought it might effect any *buntu)
[11:32] <Darkchaos> hid_roccat_ryos        16384  0      hid_roccat             16384 1 hid_roccat_ryos     hid_roccat_common      16384  1 hid_roccat_ryos
[11:32] <brainwash> there is http://roccat.sourceforge.net/
[11:32] <brainwash> did you read through this?
[11:33] <Darkchaos> Not yet, but I assume Media Keys should work for "basic" hid's?
[11:33] <hateball> there's this PPA, no idea how well it works however https://launchpad.net/~berfenger/+archive/ubuntu/roccat
[11:35] <brainwash> Darkchaos: you can run "xev" and see what keypress events you get when using the media keys
[11:37] <Darkchaos> So I found out using modinfo that the driver is indeed from the linked sourceforge page
[11:37] <Darkchaos> Actually I don't get any output, xev doesn't print anything for the media keys, not even the "fn-selector" Modifier State thing
[11:38] <brainwash> https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/roccat-ryos-mk-pro-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-reviewed.4750
[11:38] <brainwash> maybe some hints in this review
[11:39] <brainwash> Darkchaos: I would contact the roccat support and ask them directly (in case you cannot find a solution)
[11:39] <Darkchaos> brainwash: Yeah, but does Ubuntu usually support changing the volume and such through special media keys?
[11:40] <brainwash> I would guess that it does. however, that depends on the desktop environment also
[11:40] <Darkchaos> okay, then I'll just try with some cheap logitech thing I am floating around
[11:43] <hateball> Darkchaos: in my experience things usually work ootb, especially with "cheap logitech things"
[11:44] <hateball> Darkchaos: if you're on kubuntu you can pick (for supported models) the appropriate layout in the keyboard config gui
[11:45] <Darkchaos> But then I would see the keys in xev, right? If they aren't there, the driver is swallowing them
[11:46] <richardjones> hello there
[11:47] <hateball> Darkchaos: yeah you should see stuff in xev
[11:47] <richardjones> where i can make email account without enter personal details
[11:47] <Darkchaos> hateball: Then maybe I'll just take a look at the driver, maybe I can help those guys out
[11:51] <richardjones> hi there just running web server on public ip address . How can change it to domain for free.
[11:53] <ducasse> Darkchaos: if the wm/de swallows a keybind, that can mess up output through xev
[11:53] <bazhang> richardjones, thats not topic here
[11:53] <bazhang> topical
[12:18] <heap_> hi, im trying to install https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/SQLCMD-and-BCP-for-Ubuntu-c88a28cc on ubuntu 16.05
[12:18] <heap_> ops 16.04
[12:18] <heap_> but once i execute bin - msodbcsql-11.0.2270.0/bin/sqlcmd-11.0.2270.0: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:19] <cfhowlett> free online peer support is available for this microsoft product from --- micrsosoft
[12:19] <cfhowlett> as per the web pag
[12:20] <heap_> hm
[12:25] <heap_> its trying to locate /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tls/libssl.so.6"
[12:25] <heap_> but there is nothing inside that dir
[12:26] <cfhowlett> heap:  For online peer support, join The Official Scripting Guys Forum! To provide feedback or report bugs in sample scripts, please start a new discussion on the Discussions tab for this script.
[12:27] <gebruiker> is this security leak already fixed : http://scarybeastsecurity.blogspot.nl/2016/11/0day-exploit-compromising-linux-desktop.html
[12:27] <coffeeguy> hi have there been any issues with dual boot win10 and ubuntu 16.04.1?
[12:27] <coffeeguy> uefi
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | coffeeguy
[12:28] <coffeeguy> kk thank you cfhowlett :D
[12:28] <cfhowlett> happy2help! coffeeguy
[12:28] <coffeeguy> :D
[12:28] <Darkchaos> coffeeguy: I don't have any. But I installed Win first and disconnected my Linux Drives just to be sure
[12:29] <Darkchaos> And well, the first update-initramfs did find win10 so you can boot it from grub
[12:29] <themanwho> yes
[12:32] <Ayuda> openVAS not run
[12:33] <Pitmaster> Hii guys
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:36] <engpy> hi
[12:47] <kuldeep> Hello, i want to distribute my program through PPA. Is it possible to fetch from my git repo, build and store it so that users can install them. i want to automate the process as much as possible.
[12:47] <kuldeep> program(s)
[12:47] <kuldeep> ?
[12:55] <phako> hello
[12:56] <phako> I'm having an issue with NetworkManager, it's dnsmasq and systemd-resolved's NSS plugin
[12:57] <phako> when querying the dns server on localhost, I can perfecly resolve the hosts that register themselves on my router
[12:57] <Guest18360> hi
[12:57] <phako> when using a program that uses NSS, it doesn't find the hosts
[12:57] <Guest18360> M
[12:58] <Kingsy> I have a ubuntu minimal installation, where do I start with installing a network pritner? I have installed cups.. Is there a package for the gnome printer UI? I remember that being useful for adding printers.
[12:59] <phako> Kingsy: cups comes with a web interface
[12:59] <phako> you can also use that
[12:59] <Kingsy> ah
[13:00] <Kingsy> got it
[13:01] <kuldeep> Im looking for help on creating a new PPA for my software from my git repo automatically. anyone?
[13:02] <sruli> i recently started getting this in apt update "AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors." anyone know what it is?
[13:03] <Kingsy> damn it doesnt look like there is a driver available for the printer I am trying to use.
[13:04] <phako> Kingsy: which one?
[13:04] <Kingsy> TOSHIBA_TEC_TOSHIBA_e-STUDIO5055C
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Kingsy, try the toshiba generic printer
[13:10] <Kingsy> cfhowlett: its not in the cups list
[13:13] <phako> Kingsy: maybe the windows driver has PPDs you can use
[13:14] <Kingsy> hmm this was working on 16.04 mate. Just since I installed minimal
[13:14] <Kingsy> there must be a package I missing.
[13:16] <xpl0iter> Hi, I am surprised ubuntu does't have a terminal with the capabilities like mac to save and restore terminals. Or am I missing anything?
[13:16] <Kingsy> cfhowlett: what package contains the generic toshiba driver?
[13:17] <phako> xpl0iter: save and restore?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Kingsy, have you *any* Toshiba drivers?  generic should be there.  if not, make the closest match to that model and test it.
[13:17] <xpl0iter> phako, for exmaple, I run a scp command from a specific directory and several other things over there. So once I do that and save it, later when I need I can restore that shell and look at the history to do all over those again.
[13:18] <xpl0iter> so changing directories or anything needed.
[13:18] <Kingsy> cfhowlett: CUPS do not have ANY toshiba drivers.. OR a generic driver.
[13:19] <Kingsy> oh it has generic
[13:19] <Kingsy> no toshiba drivers.
[13:20] <phako> xpl0iter: well you have "history"
[13:20] <cfhowlett> http://www.openprinting.org/driver/Postscript-Toshiba/
[13:20] <Kingsy> cfhowlett: yeah I saw that.. how is it installed?
[13:21] <xpl0iter> phako, hsitory's memory is limited and scrolling through the whole available history is time consuming. I hope you understand how helpful iterm is in mac. I don't use MAC, I use linux but when I saw this in a mac I was amazed by it.
[13:23] <rhagu> hi, what permissions should my homefolder have?
[13:23] <xpl0iter> 755
[13:23] <rhagu> chmod 700?
[13:24] <xpl0iter> I think it should be 755
[13:24] <rhagu> thank you
[13:28] <Goldboy> ciao
[13:29] <Goldboy> !list
[13:30] <xpl0iter> !bot
[13:30] <xpl0iter> !botclone
[14:11] <nejm> Hi everyone, does someone know how to fix the buggy ethernet driver in Ubuntu 16.04?
[14:13] <hateball> nejm: not without you telling us what chipset and driver you're actually using
[14:14] <nejm> thanks, you mean just ifconfig?
[14:15] <nejm> hateball: I can't look it up because I can't connect to my search engine xD
[14:15] <OerHeks> nejm, can you pastebin the output: lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[14:15] <zwindl> nejm: you can use lspci
[14:15] <ikonia> could you define what you mean by "buggy"
[14:15] <OerHeks> especially driver in use, and what ethernet card
[14:15] <ikonia> I think thats pretty key
[14:16] <hateball> nejm: what OerHeks said
[14:16] <hateball> !paste | nejm
[14:17] <ikonia> could we get a description of the actual problem beyond "buggy" before trying to resolve it
[14:17] <OerHeks> if he cannot paste, he needs to type it over :-)
[14:17] <hateball> tho that will also be hard without webernets
[14:17]  * hateball slaps forehead
[14:17] <nejm> hateball: OerHeks: I can't connect to paste.ubuntu.com, it's a few lines, shall I just post it or pm it to you?
[14:17] <ikonia> why can't you connect to it ?
[14:17] <ikonia> what is the actual problem with ethernet
[14:17] <nejm> ikonia: Some pages load normally, but some don't for some reason... :S
[14:17] <ikonia> ok - so why is that an ethernet driver problem ?
[14:17] <ikonia> why is that not just a dns problem (for example)
[14:17] <nejm> I just rebooted and it worked again, but now it doesn't do it anymore
[14:18] <ikonia> ok - so perhaps focussing on the symptoms rather than the fix
[14:18] <nejm> ikonia: I think it's the driver, Ubuntu 14.04 worked fine and my windows laptop also resolves anything
[14:18] <ikonia> what happens if you query the dns server for a broken website
[14:18] <nejm> ikonia: what command would that take?
[14:18] <ikonia> nejm: what basis do you think it is anything to do with the ethernet driver
[14:19] <zwindl> you can use dig to query the website
[14:19] <nejm> ikonia: I said that already :P But if you think it's something different I believe you.
[14:20] <ikonia> nejm: ethernet modules are pretty black and white, the card is up the card is down
[14:20] <nejm> I don't know what exacly is the problem, but I can hardly use the internet like this
[14:20] <ikonia> nejm: they are not responsible for filtering webpages
[14:20] <OerHeks> nejm, wireless?
[14:20] <ikonia> so I would focus on understanding why the broken pages don't display
[14:20] <nejm> OerHeks: My desktop does not have an WiFi-dongle
[14:20] <ikonia> then move forward from that
[14:21] <nejm> ikonia: how would you suppose to start in my case?
[14:21] <OerHeks> hit F5 and see if the page loads.
[14:21] <ikonia> nejm: ok - query the dns server for one of the broken pages
[14:21] <ikonia> nejm: what do you get ?
[14:21] <ikonia> (broken sites sorry - not page)
[14:21] <nejm> OerHeks: doesn't work
[14:21] <nejm> ikonia: how do I do that?
[14:21] <nejm> !pastebinin 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-V [8086:153b] (rev 05)
[14:21] <nejm> 	Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Ethernet Connection I217-V [1849:153b]
[14:21] <nejm> 	Kernel driver in use: e1000e
[14:21] <nejm> 	Kernel modules: e1000e
[14:21] <ikonia> nejm: give me the name of a broken site
[14:22] <ikonia> nejm: lets have a look what it is as a control site
[14:22] <nejm> ikonia: this one doesnt; work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:22] <zwindl>  nejm: Hit F5 and hit F12 when the page is loading, try to see more details
[14:22] <ikonia> nejm: ok - so type the following in a terminal
[14:22] <ikonia> "nslookup paste.ubuntu.com"
[14:22] <ikonia> nejm: what do you get back
[14:23] <nejm> ikonia: ** server can't find paste.ubuntu.com: REFUSED
[14:23] <ikonia> there we go
[14:23] <nejm> and a few 127.0.0.1 addresses
[14:23] <ikonia> so there is your problem
[14:23] <ikonia> your DNS server is refusing your request
[14:24] <ikonia> nejm: now do the following test
[14:24] <ikonia> nejm: type "nslookup" you should then get a prompt, then do "server 8.8.8.8" you should then see the server being set, then type "paste.ubuntu.com" what do you get this time ?
[14:26] <nejm> ikonia: it says "Non-authoritative answer:", then the addresses of paste.ubuntu.com
[14:26] <nejm> 8.8.8.8 your own DNS server right?
[14:26] <ikonia> nejm: perfect, so now you know the problem
[14:26] <phako> Google
[14:26] <ikonia> nejm: 8.8.8.8 is google
[14:26] <nejm> o haha xD
[14:26] <ikonia> nejm: so your problem is "the dns server you are using is rejecting your queries"
[14:27] <ikonia> no ethernet driver or anything like that
[14:27] <ikonia> so you need to know why, what is the dns server you are configured to use
[14:27] <nejm> let's see, the dns server is on the modem right? It is not software on my computer?
[14:28] <ra21vi> is ubuntu i386 libs are really i386 and not 686 which I doubt. Or is it just named i386 but used 686 or P4 optimizations?
[14:28] <nejm> I am very bad with networking terminology...
[14:28] <ikonia> nejm: look in the network manager config what dns server you are using
[14:28] <ikonia> not what you think you are using - what one is it actually using
[14:28] <ikonia> nejm: type "nmcli dev show | grep DNS"
[14:29] <nejm> ikonia: I have two DNS servers for IP4 and one for IP6, which one are we interested in?
[14:29] <ikonia> both please
[14:30] <nejm> both IP4?
[14:30] <nejm> 195.121.1.34 and 195.121.1.66
[14:30] <Morclye> I've got 20GB on sda for Ubuntu. I need more space but can't allocate more from sda. I have 500GB sdd on NTFS with less than 200GB used. Would it be possible to shrink sdd on Windows to have another 20GB unallocated, then use GPparted in Ubuntu to create a new partition in ext4?
[14:30] <ikonia> nejm: ok, so they are both IPv4
[14:30] <ikonia> nejm: so lets do a test
[14:30] <nejm> I also have one for IP6
[14:30] <ikonia> nejm: again, "nslookup" then "server 195.121.1.34" then "paste.ubuntu.com"
[14:31] <ikonia> nejm: what do you get
[14:31] <hateball> Morclye: well you cant pool an existing normal ext4 partition together with a new one
[14:32] <hateball> Morclye: so either backup data and re-create your partitions as LVM and pool "sda" and "sdd" together. or copy / from sda to the new partition on sdd and adjust /etc/fstab accordingly
[14:32] <ra21vi> Morclye, sda cannot be joined with sdd partitions.. but you can mount new partition with FS ext4 in a directory and use it to store your huge files (like movies etc) to make room in sda, if that will work for you
[14:33] <nejm> ikonia: I pmmed it to you
[14:34] <Morclye> Thank you hateball and ra21vi I'll do some more research on this as not to mess up partitions.
[14:34] <ra21vi> hateball, what does pooling two partitions in LVM means? collective capacity?
[14:34] <ikonia> nejm: no need to pm me
[14:34] <ikonia> nejm: here is fine
[14:34] <nejm> OK!
[14:34] <nejm> it says ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[14:34] <ikonia> nejm: so based on the response you sent of no dns servers could be rearched that suggests your first dns erver is dead
[14:34] <slaw1> hi
[14:34] <ikonia> nejm: now do the same with the second DNS server in the list
[14:35] <ikonia> nejm: run the same test using 195.121.1.66
[14:35] <nejm> I did, it says non-authorative answer again...
[14:35] <ikonia> nejm: ok - so the second dns server appears to be working
[14:36] <ikonia> nejm: so there is your answer to your problem, one of your dns servers is dead
[14:36] <ikonia> nejm: and I'm guessing it's taking too long to time out before using the second one
[14:36] <nejm> ikonia: how could it be that the DNS servers on this computer don't work but other computers on my network work fine?
[14:36] <hateball> ra21vi: yes, you can pool drives together and spread partitions across them
[14:36] <ikonia> nejm: are they using the same dns servers ?
[14:36] <nejm> ikonia: would resetting the router solve this?
[14:36] <hateball> ra21vi: you can also use btrfs for this
[14:36] <ikonia> nejm: doubtful
[14:36] <rohanrhu> hi
[14:36] <rohanrhu> how can i remove radeon driver?
[14:36] <ikonia> nejm: check on your other computers if both/either of those addresses are working
[14:37] <ra21vi> hateball, and that means one LVM partition can actually be on two disks, and it works transparently with apps... ? Thats nice
[14:37] <hateball> Morclye: if you do not already have a separate /home you could place that on the sdd partition like Morclye suggested. but if you think / will exceed 20GB then it might be good to rethink the whole layout
[14:37] <rohanrhu> i tried everything but it is still exists and putting some errors tty1
[14:37] <ra21vi> rohanrhu, physically or just drivers?
[14:37] <ikonia> nejm: but you now know the problem,
[14:37] <hateball> ra21vi: well it's nice until things fail
[14:37] <nejm> ikonia: my windows laptop is using the same two addresses, do you know how I can check my servers in cmd?
[14:37] <ikonia> nejm: tip for future refernce, tell people the problem, not the solution
[14:37] <ra21vi> hateball, oh, thats bad ;(
[14:37] <ikonia> nejm: nslookup works on windows too
[14:38] <hateball> ra21vi: here is a good read https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[14:38] <nejm> ikonia: I thought I ruled out problems with the network itself because other computers had no problem... :/
[14:38] <rohanrhu> ra21vi: radeon driver had freezed kernel and i tried to remove it but it is still running
[14:38] <ra21vi> hateball, thanks.. reading
[14:38] <Morclye> My main goal is simply to have more disk space for Ubuntu to use mostly to install programs. Can't allocate more from sda, which is boot where Windows and Ubuntu lives. sdd has plenty of space but it is currenly all formatted to NTFS under Windows.
[14:38] <ikonia> nejm: no no, it's fine that you had an idea, but next time, just tell people the problem
[14:38] <hateball> ra21vi: LVM is nice since you can hot-add a drive and add it to an existing pool and then grow the ext* filesystem with no downtime
[14:39] <nejm> ikonia: sure
[14:40] <nejm> ikonia: the DNS request seems to time out on my other computer, but the website itself works fine
[14:41] <ikonia> nejm: both of them, or just the one
[14:41] <nejm> ikonia: the first, I will now test .66
[14:41] <nejm> ikonia: same response
[14:41] <ikonia> nejm: did it work or not (just to be clear)
[14:42] <nejm> the stuff with nslookup only gives me the address if the DNS server and after a while says that the request timed out, I don't know if that means it works or not, but in my browser I can reach paste.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <nejm> ikonia: this is so confusing.... :c
[14:43] <ikonia> nejm: if you get an IP back that is 91.189.90.174 - it's working
[14:43] <nejm> no, it does not work then, it only gives me 192.121.1.66...
[14:44] <ikonia> nejm: thats your dns server ip
[14:44] <ikonia> nejm: what do you type exactly
[14:45] <nejm> what you told me to type, in the terminal 'nslookup', then 'server 192.121.1.66' and then 'paste.ubuntu.com'
[14:45] <ikonia> nejm: ok and what do you get back after you type paste.ubuntu.com
[14:46] <nejm> DNS request timed out. (newline) timeout was 2 seconds
[14:46] <nejm> this repeats three times
[14:46] <ikonia> nejm: ok, and what do you get when you use the other dns server
[14:46] <nejm> exacly the same response
[14:48] <nejm> ikonia: before I type 'server', it seems to use another mijnmodem.kpn.home, which looks like the DNS server provided by my provider (KPN)
[14:48] <aliassix[m]> goonite
[14:48] <nejm> *another DNS server
[14:49] <frbeyer> nejm: bad news. you've been redirected to a proxy.
[14:49] <nejm> frbeyer: really?? that's weird.... :S
[14:50] <nejm> how could I fix that? I don't think anyone in my home has set up a proxy
[14:51] <frbeyer> nejm: on your router may have a dns proxy.
[14:51] <frbeyer> nejm: some use that to "force" to acess a login page.
[14:53] <nejm> frbeyer: could you explain what you mean by that?
[14:55] <Weeaboo> Hello
[14:55] <Weeaboo> Why so quiet?
[14:55] <frbeyer> nejm: example, when you use a public hotspot, some redirects you to a login page, through a dns request  hijack.
[14:55] <nejm> frbeyer: aha, so that should not be the case for my router
[14:56] <nejm> how could I remove that?
[14:56] <nejm> frbeyer: and do you know how it can be that my other computers still work?
[14:59] <frbeyer> nejm: if you use "nslookup paste.ubuntu.com 8.8.8.8" what response is given?
[15:00] <nejm> "non-authorative answer"
[15:00] <nejm> on my broken computer, that is
[15:04] <nejm> frbeyer: ikonia: I'm going to try to reboot my router anyway, brb
[15:05] <frbeyer> nejm: see first what is in /etc/resolv.conf
[15:05] <frbeyer> nejm:" cat /etc/resolv.conf "
[15:07] <artg02> hi all :)
[15:07] <artg02> I have a simple ubuntu machine that has as solely function to act as a vpn gateway for other users on the network. The ubuntu server has a internet facing connnection with an max speed of 250 mbit/s and will use AES 128 as encryption. How much RAM will this machine use in a VM?
[15:07] <nejm> nameserver 127.0.1.1 (newline) search home
[15:08] <nejm> hi I'm back
[15:08] <nejm> resolv.conf says nameserver 127.0.1.1 (newline) search home
[15:08] <nejm> frbeyer: is that how it should be?
[15:09] <numb3r> Hi everyone
[15:09] <frbeyer> nejm: maybe, but its limited to a user.
[15:10] <numb3r> How can I know a secure vpn network?
[15:10] <frbeyer> nejm: try to change it to google's one. see if it works.
[15:10] <ducasse> artg02: openvpn, ipsec, something else?
[15:10] <artg02> ducasse: openvpn forgot to mention that :)
[15:10] <nejm> frbeyer: you mean nslookup / server 8.8.8.8 right?
[15:11] <frbeyer> nejm: yes
[15:11] <nejm> the above gives the same a before, non-authorative answer
[15:11] <frbeyer> nejm: no
[15:12] <frbeyer> nejm: just change the address.
[15:12] <numb3r> thanks for the answer
[15:12] <ducasse> artg02: how many users?
[15:12] <frbeyer> nejm: at resolv.conf file.
[15:12] <nejm> frbeyer: ow haha
[15:13] <artg02> ducasse: the server will have 1 openvpn connection that serves all the clients (so 1 vpn connection). The amount of users varies from 5-15 max.
[15:13] <numb3r> What can I do to show up that's secure VPN?How can I verify that
[15:13] <nejm> frbeyer: Does it matter that the file says I should not edit it by hand?
[15:14] <nejm> frbeyer: yessss internet works again!!
[15:14] <nejm> hateball: ikonia: frbeyer: thanks for the help guys!
[15:15] <ducasse> artg02: i see. i wouldn't expect it to use much memory, openvpn is often used on extremely memory-tight devices. but it should be pretty static once set up, just adjust available memory when you see what's actually required.
[15:15] <nejm> frbeyer: does it matter that I am now using google's DNS server instead of my own?
[15:16] <artg02> ducasse: it has 1 gb right now, but its in beta fase so the real users are not connected just to check if everything is working. I was hoping maybe it could do with 512mb too, but not sure
[15:17] <ducasse> artg02: i wouldn't be surprised if you could get by with less than that, even, 512mb should be plenty imo.
[15:17] <frbeyer> nejm: resolv.conf file is probably rewritten each time the computer boots.
[15:18] <artg02> ducasse: sounds good, lets do that then
[15:19] <frbeyer> nejm: so it may be not a complete fix.
[15:21] <ducasse> artg02: i'd probably start at 512mb and adjust from there, but with so few users i would expect little variation in actual use.
[15:23] <artg02> ducasse: will do, 512mb would be very handy sinces the server has not alot right now
[15:23] <phako> so, I have a gen1 core i5 intel - with 16.10 I get full-screen flicker off gnome-shell/unity and after a while the screen stays black and the system turns of
[15:24] <phako> I've switched back to 16.04 now and at least the flickering is gone.
[15:24] <phako> anyone seen a related issue?
[15:24] <ducasse> artg02: my old openwrt router has 128mb, i think, and it did openvpn for ~5 users with no issues. openwrt is a bit lighter than ubuntu, though.
[15:25] <phako> or, rather worryingly, is there a sane way to downgrade to 16.04?
[15:25] <artg02> ducasse: I first had it running on a pfsense instance, but it also had some IDS/IPS stuff, so it needed 4GB to do all its magic. In the end if was not clear anymore weather it was just the IDS or also the vpn connection :) but openvpn is lighter then I expected
[15:26] <ducasse> phako: no downgrades, you need to reinstall.
[15:27] <ducasse> artg02: openvpn is intended for embedded use, so most of the memory will go to the rest of the system. you can probably trim a _ton_ off there, though.
[15:27] <phako> meh
[15:28] <artg02> ducasse: yeah, ubuntu is pretty "heavy" for just an openvpn connection. Would you use a different distro?
[15:30] <ducasse> artg02: depends, having a base that is as flexible as ubuntu can be a godsend. you could look at something like openwrt, which lets you do your completely custom build. i don't really like their config system (uci), though.
[15:31] <artg02> ducasse: yeah, I was coming from pfsense and went to ubuntu to add some corn jobs on it to do some automatic testing.
[15:31] <jeffreylevesque> how different is ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04
[15:32] <jeffreylevesque> if i'm wondering about hardening the systems?
[15:32] <artg02> jeffreylevesque: if you have the choice, go for 16.04 more secure in the long run since it has a longer patch time
[15:32] <artg02> for security and stability
[15:32] <elichai2> hey
[15:33] <ducasse> artg02: this might suit you - https://lede-project.org/
[15:33] <elichai2> how can I kill a service that runs with GNU/Linux? (if I try to `kiil PID` it just restarts)
[15:33] <Darkchaos> elichai2: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop ?
[15:33] <artg02> ducasse: let me read that
[15:33] <vishal_> i accept the terms
[15:34] <elichai2> sorry i've disconnected
[15:34] <Darkchaos> elichai2: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop ?
[15:34] <elichai2> not in there
[15:34] <OerHeks> elichai2, what 'service' ?
[15:34] <elichai2> I want a few services that are like this: `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-printers/indicator-printers-service`
[15:36] <artg02> ducasse: seems interesting, basically tomato for x86 without any hassle?
[15:37] <ducasse> artg02: this runs on a huge array of devices, basically anything linux has been ported to.
[15:37] <socket-work-> Hello, I want to automate the installation of the krb5-user package, but when i install it, i get a prompt with a purple background to choose the Default Kerberos version 5 realm. Is there a way i can pass these defaults in the apt syntax so the user doesn't have to see this?
[15:38] <elichai2> Darkchaos, OerHeks, sorry i've disconnected again, my network is just plain bad
[15:42] <artg02> ducasse: sounds interesting
[15:45] <ducasse> artg02: but as i said, ubuntu is well-supported and flexible enough to be a godsend as a base. see how much you can strip off, it runs a lot of stuff by default you likely don't need.
[15:46] <nicomachus> the minimal iso strips out a lot of that, but there's still more you can remove and still have a functioning OS
[15:47] <elichai2> someone? the process is under /sbin/upstart
[15:47] <nicomachus> elichai2: what version of Ubuntu?
[15:47] <elichai2> 16.10
[15:47] <nicomachus> and it's in upstart...?
[15:47] <nicomachus> odd
[15:47] <ducasse> artg02: what nicomachus says. might be better to use something like debootstrap.
[15:48] <nicomachus> anyway, you can use 'sudo pkill <processname>
[15:48] <artg02> ducasse: nicomachus I  selected minimal install for this one. probably even better is to use LXD right? (apart from the hostmachine)
[15:49] <artg02> its on a proxmox machine so its possible
[15:49] <ducasse> artg02: if this is for a vm, look at the ubuntu vm builder. not that familiar with lxd, i'm still on lxc.
[15:50] <elichai2> nicomachus, pkill, kill and killall doesn't help, it just restarts
[15:50] <ducasse> elichai2: 'sudo service whatever stop'
[15:51] <artg02> ducasse: sorry I meant LXC
[15:51] <elichai2> ducasse, not in services or systemctl
[15:52] <elichai2> I think I somehow have both systemd and upstart for some reason
[15:52] <elichai2> maybe that's the problem?
[15:52] <noimnotninevolt> there can be only one pid 1 :P
[15:53] <ducasse> artg02: probably unwise to start using lxc now, it will only be maintained until 2019 iirc.
[15:53] <elichai2> noimnotninevolt, lol, yeah the systemd is PID 1, but I do have things that their parrent is upstart
[15:54] <ducasse> elichai2: which process are you trying to stop?
[15:55] <elichai2> some indicators like `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-printers/indicator-printers-service`
[15:55] <ducasse> elichai2: those would be respawned by your session, i'd think
[15:56] <elichai2> 1. why are they under upstart?. 2. how can I kill them anyway?
[15:56] <nacc> and some session stuff (I thought only the greeter) are upstart still (iirc)
[15:56] <nacc> indicator-printers: /usr/share/upstart/sessions/indicator-printers.conf
[15:56] <artg02> ducasse: is that right? I did not know that
[15:56] <elichai2> I have one indicator that doesn't work and I can't figure out what is it. that's why I wan't to kill them
[15:56] <elichai2> nacc, so how can I kill it?
[15:57] <ducasse> artg02: all development goes into lxd now, lxc is just maintained until 2019 aiui.
[16:00] <artg02> ducasse: IIRC , LXD still uses LXC under the hood, so it would be strange to just maintain it
[16:00] <artg02> its like an extension of it
[16:01] <ducasse> artg02: it uses the same kernel interfaces, i was talking about the 'old' lxc tools. according to canonical they focus on lxd now, that's all i know.
[16:01] <rohanrhu> how can i disable radeon driver module?
[16:01] <rohanrhu> it gives error
[16:01] <rohanrhu> vd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, trying to reset the VCPU!!! in kernel logs
[16:02] <ducasse> artg02: lxc can refer both to the kernel interfaces and to the collection of lxc-* tools.
[16:02] <Darkchaos> Theoretically sudo rmmod radeon, but I can't guarantee that you can see something then^^
[16:02] <Darkchaos> or even something like `apt-cache search radeon` and then `apt-get remove <..>`followed by `apt-get install <..>`for the proprietary drivers
[16:03] <artg02> ducasse: yeah ok, that is true
[16:04] <elichai2> sorry i've disconnected, nacc, ducasse
[16:05] <nacc> elichai2: given that it's a panel notifier, just delete it from teh panel?
[16:05] <cluelessperson> Where does Ubuntu 16.10 store keyboard shortcuts config file?
[16:05] <cluelessperson> the software won't accept  Alt+Print
[16:05] <ducasse> artg02: containers made with the old lxc tools are completely invisible to lxd. i personally like the old tools better, so i haven't migrated yet.
[16:05] <cluelessperson> so I need to manually enter it for a shortcut
[16:06] <yeeve> chat, I'm wanting to put mysqld logs into syslog/rsyslog, is this the best way? http://dba.stackexchange.com/a/5106 (never heard of mkfifo, is that really a benefit? anyone done this differently?)
[16:06] <elichai2> nacc, that's the problem, one of them is stuck and I can't delete it, the menu doesn't work and the icon doesn't neither
[16:06] <elichai2> and I don't know which one is it
[16:07] <yeeve> ah it seems fifo isn't worth it but is the general-log-file the cleanest way to get stuff into syslog? (also not sure if this is just info/debug, ideally I'd like errors and slow-queries through rsyslog too)
[16:08] <ducasse> cluelessperson: you can't, i think, that would conflict with the magic sysrq key.
[16:08] <pavlos> elichai2, can you kill the parent process of that indicator?
[16:09] <sruli> i have a varibale with a command in it, i want the command to execute each time i call the variable, how can i do it?
[16:09] <artg02> ducasse: would you trust the standard security of LXC in promox when making a new one?
[16:09] <elichai2> pavlos, what, kill upstart?
[16:09] <cluelessperson> ducasse, it already has a keybinding for  Alt + Print
[16:09] <cluelessperson> ducasse, now I cannot set it back.
[16:10] <pavlos> elichai2, can you pastebin, ps -ef | grep printers
[16:10] <elichai2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23659510/
[16:11] <pavlos> elichai2, parent is 3085, can you ps -ef | grep 3085
[16:11] <ducasse> cluelessperson: probably because that binding is special and captured by the kernel, you can try disabling magic sysrq key, see if that helps.
[16:12] <elichai2> pavlos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23659523/ as I've said upstart
[16:12] <ducasse> artg02: i have no experience with proxmox, sorry.
[16:12] <cluelessperson> ducasse, it was already a key combination before
[16:12] <cluelessperson> and it worked before, I just want to switch them
[16:12] <artg02> ducasse: thanks anyway :)
[16:12] <yeeve> anyone here used 'goaccess' enough to know how to show the hostname/domain name in the lists so I can tell which site the file was loaded from?
[16:13] <PA_FTW> hi
[16:14] <PA_FTW> anyone here on 16.04 experiencing issues with PulseAudio after the latest Ubuntu updates?
[16:14] <pavlos> elichai2, and kill -9 10139 or kill -15 10139 does not work, right?
[16:14] <dudeji> Hey guys , I have two ubuntu servers under load balancer bt one of them is giving too much CPU-load due to IO operations , what can be probable issue ?
[16:15] <ducasse> cluelessperson: you are not listening to me, that binding is special, which is probably why you're having problems with it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[16:15] <cluelessperson> ducasse, oh, you're probably right.
[16:15] <OerHeks> elichai2, sudo service stop indicator-printers-service # even you have upstart due to the transition to systemd, this line should work.
[16:15] <cluelessperson> ducasse, how do I disable lol
[16:15] <elichai2> pavlos, it just restarts it with a new PID
[16:16] <OerHeks> killing such service is useless, it respawns
[16:16] <elichai2> OerHeks, it's not registered as a service
[16:16] <cluelessperson> ducasse, I don't even have a SysRq
[16:18] <ducasse> cluelessperson: it might not say so on the key, but it _is_ there. some manufacturers don't print it since it isn't normally used.
[16:18] <ducasse> cluelessperson: see the link i posted, under 'uses'
[16:18] <dudeji> this is the error i am getting : CPU iowait time (xxx:system.cpu.util[,iowait]): 29.07 %
[16:19] <ducasse> cluelessperson: under 'configuration', sorry
[16:20] <elichai2> so no idea?
[16:21] <pavlos> elichai2, I thought renaming that file to something.bad so it should not respawn ... just a thought
[16:21] <Darkchaos> well then you could also try chmod -x
[16:23] <Lynx0> Hi! I'm just in the process of updating from 12.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS. The first step, 12 to 14, worked fine with "do release-upgrade". The 14 to 16.04 upgrade does not work, I get "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade". According to some forum posts, broken packages cause this. Indeed, I have removed some of them, but that
[16:23] <Lynx0> file does not get updated? How do I update the list of broken packages?
[16:23] <Lynx0> I meant to write I have broken packages reported in /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[16:23] <nacc> Lynx0: can you pastebin the relevant section?
[16:24] <elichai2> i'll try maybe
[16:27] <OerHeks> Lynx0, do you have sufficient free space? open terminal: df - h
[16:27] <Lynx0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23659589/
[16:27] <Lynx0> That's part of a longer list of the same
[16:28] <lil_> hi
[16:28] <Lynx0> OerHeks: Yes, should be enough
[16:28] <elichai2> ok, problem
[16:29] <lil_> exit
[16:29] <elichai2> I've mv everything and killed it (except indicator-application-service because that's the whole bar) and I still have 3 indicators left
[16:29] <elichai2> pavlos, Darkchaos
[16:29] <nacc> Lynx0: can you pastebin `apt-cache policy php5-cli` ?
[16:29] <elichai2> how can I find which processes are running indicators?
[16:30] <pavlos> elichai2, ps -ef | grep indicators
[16:31] <elichai2> that's how I've found them, but there are no more and still 3 icons
[16:31] <elichai2> wifi, vivaldi and the weird one i'm looking for
[16:31] <Lynx0> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23659604/
[16:32] <ducasse> elichai2: indicators are a part of the environment, i doubt they are intended to be disabled. wifi and vivaldi would be systray icons, not indicators
[16:33] <elichai2> ducasse, so maybe all the one i'm looking for is a systray icon too
[16:33] <elichai2> I want to disable it because it's stuck
[16:33] <Lynx0> nacc: For some of the packages in the list (for example libgsl2) I only get unable to locate package
[16:34] <NET||abuse> hey guys, i'm working on a new project setup, i've not been doing much deb management before, but i'm thinking of doing an amazon s3 bucket as a deb repo, what's the best tools to manage that?
[16:34] <Justin_> cd
[16:34] <nacc> Lynx0: right, so i think do-release-upgrade is trying to cleanup packages that no longer exist in 16.04
[16:34] <ducasse> elichai2: most likely
[16:34] <Lynx0> nacc: But I'm still at 14.04, as I run that?
[16:35] <elichai2> ducasse, how can I search for systary icons?
[16:35] <nacc> NET||abuse: why do you need to do 'deb management'?
[16:35] <nacc> Lynx0: well, aiui, if you are release-upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04, it does this 'on the side' as it figures out how to upgrade
[16:35] <ducasse> elichai2: they are part of the individual applications, displeyed in whatever the de uses to handle systray
[16:35] <nacc> Lynx0: although, the other thing you might verify is if you are fully up to date in 14.04; `apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get autoremove`
[16:35] <Lynx0> nacc: Ok, but should that problem not come up for anyone upgrading to 16.04?
[16:36] <Lynx0> nacc: I've run that a few times already now
[16:37] <NET||abuse> nacc,  well, i'm puttin gtogether some webservices for a project, but i need a network to support th eproject, i am thinking build ansible role config into a deb and then ASG's in aws will load up the deb as the default init stage
[16:37] <nacc> Lynx0: 1) not everyone has all the same packages as you installed; 2) not everyone goes 12.04 -> 16.04; 3) could be any number of other things :)
[16:38] <jrgilman> hey guys, I'm having an issue where my /tmp dir is being cleared at 10:00 on 16.04, I was wondering what would be causing this to occur? I've tried looking into it, but most of the references online are to tmpreaper which is no longer used...
[16:38] <NET||abuse> just looking at the tools in the deb space, there's quite a few in the debian.org wiki, aptly looks pretty ;) but then there's debify which the wiki says is a wrapper around aptly
[16:40] <Lynx0> nacc: So any idea what I could do? grep -c Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log showd 173 packages...
[16:40] <elichai2> ducasse, so I can't look for them?
[16:40] <elichai2> i'm stuck with that stupid systray icon?
[16:41] <ducasse> elichai2: you need to 1) disable the systray or 2) disable the icon in each application
[16:41] <elichai2> ducasse, the thing is I don't know which app is it. the Icon of it is blank and the menu is blank too
[16:41] <nacc> NET||abuse: right there are few different programs for managing your own repo -- i assume you know how to package if you are 'building ansible role config into a deb' ?
[16:43] <ducasse> elichai2: start killing apps and see when it vanishes :)
[16:43] <elichai2> lol
[16:43] <elichai2> no real way?
[16:44] <ducasse> elichai2: that is a pretty 'real' way
[16:44] <merlin_> hello
[16:45] <elichai2> ok
[16:46] <ducasse> elichai2: if you want to identify an application that doesn't identify itself, that is pretty much your best shot
[16:54] <Felishia> how the hell do I make ubuntu shut up? :|
[16:54] <Felishia> it won't stop mentioning what I'm typing
[16:54] <Felishia> or what I point on
[16:55] <NET||abuse> nacc, i know about building rpm's but not debs so much, but for various reasons i'm opting to move over to ubuntu-server, anyway, fpm can build deb's, i'm used to using that.
[16:55] <OerHeks> oh, orca screen reader, press INS + Q
[16:55] <nacc> Felishia: did you turn on 'screen reader'?
[16:55] <OerHeks> Felishia ^^
[16:55] <nacc> NET||abuse: ah ok
[16:55] <NET||abuse> so would there be any other worth while tool chains to look at or are fpm + aptly good partner apps?
[16:56] <Felishia> it just went nuts
[16:56] <Felishia> ok I killed the process
[16:56] <Felishia> it's also zoomed it
[16:56] <Felishia> zoomed in
[16:56] <Felishia> everything looks bigger
[16:57] <nacc> probably 'zoom' or 'large text' enabled (amongst the many accessibility options)
[16:58] <Felishia> no it actually zoomed but anyway I fixed it
[16:58] <Felishia> this is stupid :|
[16:58] <Felishia> who would use that?
[16:58] <nacc> Felishia: people with disabilities
[16:59] <Felishia> wouldn't they rather change the resolution of the screen?
[16:59] <OerHeks> pretty nifty features.
[16:59] <Felishia> or use a reader that at least you can understand what they say... :|
[16:59] <Lynx0> So any ideas how to fix many broken packages, when Synaptic does not list any as broken, and apt-get install -f does not work either?
[17:00] <nacc> Lynx0: they are only broken on the do-release-upgrade process, afaict, which is expected, maybe?
[17:01] <Lynx0> nacc: Hmm, maybe. So, if I can't fix them, and can't remove them, I'm not sure how to proceed...
[17:01] <nacc> Lynx0: the pastebin you did earlier did not indicate any errors. Can you pastebin the actual error output (and the command)
[17:02] <Lynx0> nacc: You mean the /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log?
[17:02] <nacc> Lynx0: wait, are you using `apt dist-upgrade` to upgrade to 16.04?
[17:02] <nacc> Lynx0: or are you using do-release-upgrade
[17:02] <OerHeks> sudo dpkg --configure -a # might fix things
[17:03] <Lynx0> OerHeks: Nope, tried that, too
[17:03] <Lynx0> nacc: do-release-upgrade
[17:05] <nacc> Lynx0: hrm, iirc, that has a different log file
[17:05] <Lynx0> nacc: There is actually no error in the log file, it just ends in "Done"
[17:06] <ioria> Lynx0, grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[17:06] <Lynx0> ioria: There's many broken packages there
[17:06] <ioria> Lynx0, no good
[17:07] <Lynx0> Actually, now I'm not sure that the broken packages are the cause that do-release-upgrade does not work? It just says "Could not determine the upgrade An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."
[17:09] <hacker> what
[17:10] <ioria> Lynx0, there are several pseudo-solutions... from Recovery, removing the cache,  –fix-missing, –configure -a . none of those i'am experienced with
[17:12] <Lynx0> ioria: I tried some of them
[17:12] <Lynx0> But not the recovery one yet, I just saw that
[17:12] <ioria> Lynx0, let's try
[17:13] <Lynx0> ioria: The server is currently headless, I'd have to find a monitor first
[17:13] <ioria> Lynx0, i see
[17:14] <ioria> Lynx0, also sudo aptitude purge ~c
[17:14] <ioria> Lynx0, but you need aptitude installed
[17:16] <Lynx0> ioria: the last one gives me a scary long list ;)
[17:17] <ioria> Lynx0, sudo apt-get clean  and try    sudo apt update
[17:25] <General_Failure> /part/part
[17:28] <Richard_Cavell> sorry guys
[17:33] <Lynx0> Ok, trying the recovery mode package repair now. New problem: The recovery mode dpkg tries to mount all drives from fstab, but can't because there are network drives. Can I only mount local drives in recovery?
[17:35] <lynne> looking for Slic3r support area
[17:42] <Lynx0> ioria, nacc: Recovery mode package repair didn't work either. Oh well, I'll try the forum. Thanks for the help, have to go home now.
[17:49] <Guest92502> help... in indonesia
[17:50] <xangua> Love Moana
[17:51] <wafflejock> Guest92502, ask your question all in one line if possible
[17:53] <cerealguy> man
[17:53] <compdoc> antelope
[17:54] <zevero> ping
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> always
[17:54] <cerealguy> hey what are they gonna do for codeword for the 17.10 release they'll be on "z" for 17.04
[17:55] <nacc> cerealguy: it is not alphabetical (strictly)
[17:55] <nacc> cerealguy: and at some point, the next name will get picked
[17:55] <jrgilman> something zebra?
[17:55] <Pici> cerealguy: we actually haven't had an A release.
[17:55] <jrgilman> we could go to AA
[17:56] <cerealguy> anybody here work for canonical?
[17:56] <cerealguy> unrelated
[17:56] <cerealguy> lol
[17:57] <nacc> cerealguy: not really ontopic
[17:57] <nacc> cerealguy: neither question so far is, tbh :)
[17:57] <zevero> there is a new 17 Ubuntu?
[17:57] <cerealguy> lmao ur right ur right
[17:57] <ducasse> zevero: not until april 2017
[17:58] <cerealguy> i love unity almost as much as my family
[17:58] <nacc> cerealguy: alright, assuming you're trolling now. This is the support channel, chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> !zapus
[17:58] <cerealguy> oh cool
[17:59] <cerealguy> didn't know about that thank u
[17:59] <ducasse> cerealguy: there is also #ubuntu-discuss for non-support ubuntu-related discussions
[18:00] <cerealguy> i appreciate that
[18:00] <cerealguy> thank you
[18:00] <hacker_> my facebook
[18:19] <Guest21752> who have a skills on buffer overflow , i have this buffer and i need somehelp on it , tbh its just a homework http://www.up-00.com/?5D1R , thanks
[18:20] <dennis__> hello
[18:20] <wafflejock> Guest21752, wrong channel ubuntu support issues only here
[18:20] <Guest21752> wafflejock, what channel should i go?
[18:20] <wafflejock> !alis
[18:21] <wafflejock> Guest21752, ^^ I dunno find one where they help with homework
[18:21] <ducasse> Guest21752: do your homework yourself.
[18:21] <Guest21752> wafflejock, ducasse , what channel helping on buffer?
[18:21] <wafflejock> if you need help understanding buffers maybe trying ##programming
[18:21] <ducasse> Guest21752: read the message from ubottu
[18:41] <LordNelthon> Is this http://pastebin.com/q2Wa5WfF the correct way to chroot? What is the difference between the rbind and bind in mount?
[18:41] <nacc> LordNelthon: recursive vs. not
[18:41] <nacc> LordNelthon: see `man mount`
[18:43] <LordNelthon> nacc: Are all 4 needed (or missing any) and why proc does not need the recursive option?
[18:43] <reisio> I've always done mount -t proc foo /path/to/proc
[18:43] <reisio> probably doesn't matter so much
[18:44] <reisio> proc is an imaginary FS
[18:44] <nacc> LordNelthon: well, proc has no submounts
[18:44] <reisio> but in a different way from sys & dev :p
[18:44] <nacc> LordNelthon: again, read `man mount`, i'd say
[18:45] <LordNelthon> thanks
[19:13] <jeffreylevesque> is there any difference between `vagrant ALL=(ALL:ALL)    NOPASSWD:ALL`, and `vagrant ALL=(ALL)    NOPASSWD:ALL`
[19:13] <jeffreylevesque> for `visudo`?
[19:14] <reisio> jeffreylevesque: I wouldn't think so, assuming both work at all
[19:14] <jeffreylevesque> thanks!
[19:15] <reisio> jeffreylevesque: the former is probably just a more explicit way, specifying user & group independently, I would think
[19:15]  * reisio shrugs
[19:15] <reisio> you have to test whether it works regardless
[19:15] <jeffreylevesque> yup
[19:15] <eelstrebor> i'm wondering what i'm missing - i have an openvpn server and an openvpn client running on the same box - the server runs on a different subnet from what the client connects to - when i reboot the pc, the server starts but the client doesn't connect - the server brings up tun0 and the client is suppose to bring up tun1 - even the ethernet connection doesn't come up - if i uninstall openvpn the ethernet connection comes up - why does this happen?
[19:17] <Guest33776> am i ony here
[19:17] <Guest33776> any one is there dude
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> Guest33776  type   /n
[19:18] <Guest33776> i am using hex chat or first time
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> Guest33776  great, ask your ubuntu questions here
[19:19] <Guest33776> thanks,monkey dust
[19:19] <seme> hi guys.  I think I screwed up and switched the kernel that I was running and now virtualbox doesn't work.  Says the /dev/vboxdrv doesn't exist.  I've tried rebuilding the mode but I don't think it works with 4.8.0-30-generic.... which kernel should I be running?
[19:20] <reisio> seme: lsmod | grep -i vboxdrv
[19:20] <seme> I'm running 16.04 by the way
[19:20] <seme> reisio: nothing returned
[19:20] <Guest33776> i also
[19:20] <reisio> seme: then the driver isn't loaded
[19:20] <reisio> seme: you could try sudo modprobe vboxdrv if you wanted
[19:20] <seme> right.  modprobe vboxdrv doesn't work
[19:20] <reisio> you might not even have the driver, then
[19:21] <seme> right it wasn't rebuilt for the 4.8.0-30-generic kernel
[19:21] <reisio> you need kernel sources/headers or something and the source files for it, should be in the repo
[19:21] <seme> When I treid to rebuild it then It failed
[19:21] <reisio> make it work :)
[19:21]  * seme is going to hit his kernel on the head
[19:22] <seme> reisio: the headers are installed.  How do I tell dkms to rebuild the vboxdrv module?
[19:23] <OerHeks> seme, did you build your own kernel, not from mainline?
[19:23] <seme> no I'm using the kernel from ubuntu
[19:26] <seme> how do I list the installed kernels so I can update teh default kernel in grub
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> seme  ls -l /boot/
[19:37] <tehBTP> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23660525/ anyone have a solution for this? Ubuntu 16.04LTS tried some shit I found online. I don't care about the font package I kinda just want the message to stop popping up everytime i boot the system.
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> tehBTP  mind your language
[19:38] <OerHeks> best way to stop that, is reinstall that package and let it run, you might get a popup for accepting an UELA
[19:41] <tehBTP> MonkeyDust, sorry.
[19:41] <tehBTP> OerHeks, I will try it again.
[19:46] <anonymous_> hey guys
[19:46] <anonymous_> does anyone have the raspberry
[19:47] <MEGAx> hello
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  type /j raspberrypi
[19:47] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-arm, there is a mate edition or core
[19:48] <MrHall> hello i want share this solve to use parameters on controller of javafx fxml https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Ul5fS0XS4
[19:48] <NET||abuse> On to consider what build dsl to use, I've worked in Rake teams before, but i'm a huge hater or gems and ruby in general :)
[19:49] <OerHeks> oh boy
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[20:02] <Arunangshu> hi
[20:02] <reisio> ohai
[20:03] <Arunangshu> is there any gui application available for installing tag.gz files
[20:04] <xangua> !compile
[20:05]  * zykotick9 goes to find out if tag.gz is a thing...
[20:05] <Pici> Arunangshu: do you mean .tar.gz? and if so.. thats the linux equivalent of a zip file.
[20:06] <Arunangshu> pici:yes but it gets harder to install application in the terminal
[20:07] <Pici> Arunangshu: What software are you trying to install?
[20:07] <wafflejock> Arunangshu, you can use file roller or any gui for opening zipped archives basically
[20:07] <wafflejock> Arunangshu, the actual software in the zip archive will vary with regard to how to install it
[20:08] <wafflejock> Arunangshu, typically when you install something you are configuring it for your system specifics (folder locations or hardware or whatever) and then putting files somewhere on the PATH so you can run them regardless of your current directory in the terminal
[20:08] <AlexM_> @addo: it's ok?
[20:08]  * eelstrebor can't seem to get vpnautoconnect to work - keep getting "No answer from daemon"
[20:09] <wafflejock> Arunangshu, .deb files are packaged to be installed by dpkg and are typically the best option outside of the distros repos which are the recommended way of getting and removing things
[20:11] <disgrntld> really dumb question: I'm trying to kerberize an NGINX host (it'll use an NGINX kerb module to authneticate clients against a windows active directory), do I need the krb5-client package on the ubuntu machine?
[20:12] <wafflejock> disgrntld, no idea... what does it mean to kerberize is that related to kerbal space program ;)
[20:12] <ioria> nope, to kerneros
[20:12] <w0sem> hi
[20:12] <ioria> *kerberos
[20:13] <disgrntld> lol, just allows clients who are on the same domain to not have to login to web apps (because the web app itself can ask the active directory guy (kdc))
[20:13] <w0sem> are her
[20:13] <disgrntld> ok, slightly more on-topic, _why_ does the krb5-client package propose SO MANY changes??
[20:14] <disgrntld> aptitude's "solution" is modification/installation/removal of 75 (!!) packages
[20:14] <disgrntld> ...y'all have any solution for when aptitude proposes something silly?
[20:14] <nacc> disgrntld: i don't see any such pacakge 'krb5-client'
[20:15] <disgrntld> hold on, I prolly misread it
[20:15] <disgrntld> 'krb5-user'  crap, sorry!
[20:16] <disgrntld> I'll just break a vm and try it :D
[20:16] <nacc> disgrntld: aptitude by default tries to install recommends, iirc
[20:17] <disgrntld> ohhhhhh
[20:17] <disgrntld> maybe I can dodge some of these
[20:18] <nacc> disgrntld: i think the minimum set is 41 or so, because of lib dependencies
[20:19] <disgrntld> that helps, but yea: "In order to authenticate to a Kerberos Realm, the krb5-user and libpam-krb5 packages are needed" (from https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kerberos.html)
[20:19] <disgrntld> ooook then
[20:19] <nacc> disgrntld: using `apt-get --no-install-recommends install krb5-user` -- although the # will depend of course on what is actually installed already
[20:19] <disgrntld> oh, cool, alright thanks everyone!
[20:25] <andrej> Trying to enable IP forwarding on a box w/ a public and a private interface (172.xxx) following https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/firewall.html#ip-masquerading ...
[20:26] <andrej> UFW barfs at me using the exact syntax suggested to modify /etc/ufw/before.rules
[20:26] <andrej> Once I insert the nat rule it complains about *filter being a syntax error
[20:28] <andrej> Anyone ever got this to work with UFW?
[20:29] <LordNelthon> nacc: one more question about chroot, why would I need /run mounted in chroot environment?
[20:30] <nacc> LordNelthon: for sockets, typically
[20:30] <ioria> LordNelthon, connection , but i could be wrong
[20:31] <pavlos> andrej, this line ... -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[20:31] <nacc> LordNelthon: but basiclaly for storing 'run'time files: sockets, pidfiles, lockfiles
[20:32] <andrej> pavlos : yup?
[20:32] <andrej> What is wrong with it?
[20:33] <pavlos> andrej, I dont see anything wrong, make sure you have no typos
[20:34] <andrej> I don't have any typos, and adjutsted the interface names and IPs accordingly.
[20:34] <LordNelthon> nacc: thanks. I'm following a tutorial to chroot and update-initramfs and update-grub. Just trying to understand the requirements.
[20:39] <Echo6> Hey, I had a working Samba configuration about a week ago and now suddenly I can't seem to access any resources on my samba server and half the time I can't even view the shares. I'm not sure if some sort of weird update jacked my config or what happened. I have been fighting it for about 4 hours now. The config loads fine but I can't access anything. Before this was messed up I had some public shares for the household and now I have twisted it up so bad it
[20:39] <Echo6> asks for a username and password but none work. It's accessible from the smbclient cli command on the localhost so I was thinking firewall but I have completely disabled the firewall and flushed iptables (as this is not accessible from the outside world) and I still have the issue.
[20:39] <Echo6> http://pastebin.com/44LYqUrx   <---- That's my current config. I have broken it down to just that.
[20:40] <Echo6> Any help would be appreciated.
[20:41] <rek> Hi, i have a question about a problem i got burning an image... where can i ask that?
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> rek  start here
[20:43] <pavlos> andrej, seems you need -t NAT since if the table is not defined, POSTROUTING chain does not exist
[20:47] <andrej> Thanks pavlos; I'll keep prodding the config file ... there has to be a way ;}
[20:48] <pavlos> andrej, step2 in the ufw section defines a POSTROUTING chain
[20:50] <rek> Monkey thanks i was like... maybe they tell me it's an offtopic... so basically i got a .bin.ecm image, then i got the bin image using ecm-uncompress,then i made the .cue using cuemakey.py script but i deleted the last lines of the code since there was a syntax error i couldn't find or fix... i really got a .cue similar to those one i already had for other images.... so: i can mount this bin image and read the content,and thi
[20:50] <rek> s image work with the emulator it's supposed to work with,but i want to burn that image on a cd-r ..i did it with 2 diffferent cd/dvd burners and i've done it with k3b in ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04, also before burning k3b has verified the md5 hashes and i burn the image at low speed without getting any error, then the computer doesn't even mount the cd-r i can't read it what's the problem here?
[20:56] <kode54> if you'd burned it with the correct cue sheet, it probably would have worked
[20:56] <kode54> maybe ask someone to look at your original cue sheet to fix the error(s) it has?
[20:59] <rek> kode54, i'd like to know what is the cuesheet for...what are those instructions?
[20:59] <kode54> the cuesheet describes the index for your CD
[20:59] <kode54> the bin is just raw data
[20:59] <kode54> the cue sheet describes the format, and the track layout
[20:59] <kode54> it also may happen to have absolute path names if generated on a Windows machine by some software
[21:00] <kode54> or mistakes that some software doesn't like, like the use of "pregap" declarations on tracks other than the first audio track
[21:00] <rek> why do i get an unreadable cdrom? can't read any data....uhm
[21:00] <kode54> you get an unreadable CD because it has an incorrect index
[21:01] <rek> what do you mean by format?
[21:01] <kode54> iso/2048, type2/2352, etc
[21:01] <kode54> and also where the tracks start
[21:01] <kode54> it won't do to substitute cue sheets from other images
[21:02] <kode54> if you hastebin me the original cue sheet, I may be able to look over it and see what's wrong
[21:13] <judge> twit crashed earhero ....
[21:14] <nicomachus> what?
[21:15] <judge> get 'resource limited' at earhero.com
[21:15] <nicomachus> judge: ok... how does that relate to Ubuntu?
[21:16] <judge> sry - wrong channel
[21:18] <lordPoseidon> I need help, like in the terminal we put the command ls -l, we get the list of the directories in long form, we also get the permissions the file permissions for the given files or directories, I want to know this thing, but in a program, I want this, i have the path to a directory, I want to find the access permissions to that directory
[21:18] <lordPoseidon> please help me in this
[21:19] <lordPoseidon> any library or any thing i can use in c/c++
[21:19] <nicomachus> lordPoseidon: what do you mean "in a program"? what program?
[21:19] <lordPoseidon> in any program of c++ code
[21:19] <nicomachus> lordPoseidon: this isn't a c++ support channel.
[21:20] <Darkchaos> Possibly something like POSIX/C fstat
[21:20] <symm-> hi...... how do I bulk-rename all *.txt files in a directory to *.ini for example?
[21:20] <wafflejock> lordPoseidon, ^^ or join ##programming
[21:20] <lordPoseidon> ok, then any hint I can get, like some trik
[21:20] <lordPoseidon> ok i try
[21:20] <Darkchaos> However that might only work on Linux. as well as some googeling :D
[21:20] <nicomachus> symm-: with a for loop
[21:20] <lordPoseidon> thankss
[21:20] <Pici> symm-: rename 's/txt$/ini/' *.txt
[21:20] <nicomachus> symm-: give this a read: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8899135/renaming-multiples-files-with-a-bash-loop
[21:21] <symm-> Pici, nicomachus: thank you
[21:22] <ron_> gloups
[21:23] <ewerton> Good evening! I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with NVIDIA GTX 960, and I don't have the xorg.conf file in "/etc/X11", should I create it? Or is this file no longer useful? Or did he change directory in the latest versions of Ubuntu?
[21:24] <xangua> ewerton: a xorg config is created on the fly since like half a decade ago
[21:27] <Darkchaos> Which reminds me of something: Can I run two XServers which share the same buffer or something? I want something related to those "hybrid" setups but with the difference that I want both, iGPU and GPU to Display something, on a per monitor base. This however seems to be difficult to do
[21:28] <Pici> /25/21
[21:31] <ewerton> xangua: sry, on the fly? I could not understand, but, should I create xorg or not? If so, is it still the same directory as always?
[21:32] <kode54> I thought vendor binary drivers were supported automatically by their respective package?
[21:32] <wedgie> ewerton: no xorg.conf is necessary
[21:32] <Pici> ewerton: only if you have a directive that you need to put in there.
[21:32] <kode54> from the restricted tree
[21:33] <genewitch> i have screen flickering on my dual GPU laptop (intel i915 and nvidia) whenever a kernel > 4.8 is loaded. I'm running 16.10 with yakkity-proposed (the suggested fix)
[21:34] <genewitch> nautilus -q; nautilis stops the flickering for about 4 seconds
[21:34] <genewitch> anyone have any other suggestions?
[21:37] <ridixcr> ...
[21:38] <brainwash> genewitch: did you file a bug report against nautilus?
[21:38] <xentity1x> I need to enable port 27017 on a server. I tried running ufw enable 27017, but when I try to telnet into the port it says connection refused. Do I need to do anything else to open the port?
[21:38] <kode54> ufw allow 27017 (with /tcp if it's tcp-only)
[21:38] <wafflejock> xentity1x, where is the server?
[21:38] <kode54> ufw allow 27017/tcp for tcp
[21:38] <genewitch> brainwash: all the ones involving this bug say "confirmed fixed"
[21:39] <wafflejock> xentity1x, if you have a VPS they may have firewall rules as well
[21:39] <xentity1x> wafflejock, it's not a vps. It's a physical machine in a lab.
[21:39] <wafflejock> xentity1x, nmap can be useful to see what ports are open locally vs what can be seen from the outside
[21:40] <brainwash> genewitch: link?
[21:40] <kode54> xentity1x: "enable" turns on the firewall, "allow" lets a port through
[21:41] <wafflejock> xentity1x, I also like netstat -tulnp, will give you list of processes with port numbers can grep that for port numbers to find the process bound to a given port
[21:41] <genewitch> brainwash: for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1626935
[21:42] <Darkchaos> And you have verified that your nautilus is already at that version? (I know it sounds unrealistic, but you never know)
[21:43] <xentity1x> wafflejock kode54, here is the output of netstat and ufw status. It seems like the port is open? http://pastebin.com/2XMzcMNv
[21:43] <genewitch> Darkchaos: yes, nautilus is at the version mentioned there. there was another bug related to gtk3 but it requires zesty-prooposed and i dunno how to get that
[21:43] <kode54> oh
[21:43] <kode54> duh
[21:43] <brainwash> genewitch: open a new bug then and reference the other ones in your description
[21:44] <kode54> mongod usually only listens on 127.0.0.1, because its authentication is not really designed for external use
[21:44] <kode54> you should really set a good password on it and open it to 0.0.0.0, if that's your use case
[21:44] <brainwash> genewitch: so, you need to mention in the gtk bug report that yakkity is affected too
[21:45] <kode54> I was affected from the outset by a yakkety bug, but only because I tried to do something different
[21:45] <genewitch> brainwash: it was about yakkety, the "fix" was "install the zesty-proposed gtk+3
[21:45] <kode54> I tried to install from livedvd, and configured the sources.list to use mirror: protocol
[21:45] <kode54> apparently, the apt kit that comes with the install media segfaults on the mirror: protocol
[21:46] <xentity1x> kode54, I have already set bindip in /etc/mongod.conf to 0.0.0.0 and restarted the mongo daemon. I still seem to have the problem.
[21:46] <genewitch> oh nvermind it wasn't
[21:46] <genewitch> it was linked to from a yakkety bug
[21:46] <brainwash> right
[21:47] <genewitch> it wasn't about flickering it was about window resizing
[21:48] <brainwash> in any case, you have to contact the package maintainer. either comment on the existing bug report or create a new one
[21:48] <kode54> ah
[21:48] <kode54> xentity1x: delete the bind_ip setting, it listens on all interfaces by default
[21:49] <kode54> but for security, the default configuration file sets it to 127.0.0.1
[21:49] <xentity1x> kode54, I have also tried commenting it out.
[21:49] <brainwash> genewitch: we can only give you this solution: if nautilus is the culprit, deactivate/remove it
[21:49] <genewitch> there's no mention of intel /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[21:50] <xentity1x> kode54, i think it might be a firewall issue since i can't telnet into the port either.
[21:50] <kode54> can you telnet to it inside the machine, using the machine's external IP?
[21:50] <genewitch> brainwash: okay, what would i use instead?
[21:51] <genewitch> removing nautilus removes "ubuntu-desktop" which i think i need
[21:51] <genewitch> i think
[21:52] <brainwash> it is a meta package
[21:53] <brainwash> only pulls in other packages
[21:53] <herlimenezes> Hi, good evening. I have an old acer aspire one, after crash it enters in maintenance mode
[21:53] <herlimenezes> What can I do?
[21:53] <Guest28934> hello
[21:54] <Guest28934> how is everyone thi fine day
[21:54] <bazhang> did you have an ubuntu support issue Guest28934
[21:55] <symm-> is it possible to move the "status bar" from the top of the screen to the bottom?
[21:55] <symm-> not the launcher
[21:55] <nicomachus> no.
[21:55] <nicomachus> not easily.
[21:55] <symm-> I see
[21:55] <nicomachus> you can modify some compiz files or install new WM/DE, but it's not easy.
[21:55] <genewitch> brainwash: removing nautilus did not fix the flickering
[21:56] <brainwash> genewitch: it's probably still running as process
[21:56] <genewitch> i rebooted
[21:56] <brainwash> then we know that nautilus is not the cause
[21:56] <genewitch> true, i think it's the intel driver
[21:57] <genewitch> in the kernel for 4.8
[21:57] <Bashing-om> herlimenezes: What release are you runnning .. and have you ran a file system check ?
[21:57] <brainwash> genewitch: can you try kernel 4.9?
[21:57] <nicomachus> 4.9?
[21:57] <genewitch> i'd try it if i knew how to do it without compiling from scratch
[21:58] <herlimenezes> I think is 10.XX, I dont use this netbook so much
[21:58] <nicomachus> brainwash: there's no stable release for 4.9 yet
[21:58] <brainwash> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9/
[21:58] <herlimenezes> but I want to repair it.
[21:58] <herlimenezes> Bashing-om: I want to use it to give classes.
[21:58] <nicomachus> brainwash: not sure it's a great idea to recommend a PPA for a kernel that isn't in stable release yet.
[21:59] <herlimenezes> bas
[21:59] <brainwash> nicomachus: why not? that's what you do you debug a bug
[21:59] <Bashing-om> herlimenezes: Ouch ! 10 series is long time out of support . Way past time to install a current release .
[21:59] <tag> Has anyone managed to successfully use "SecurePrint" from Ubuntu?
[21:59] <Nematocyst> how to access prompt during install?  it wants my wifi password which is 64 random chars.  i have it on USB drive, but can't figure out how to access terminal
[22:00] <herlimenezes> Bashing-om: Yes I intented to do so, but there is no boot from usb.
[22:00] <genewitch> huh, the flickering isn't constant now, at least
[22:00] <brainwash> Nematocyst: also, how is it not stable?
[22:00] <brainwash> nicomachus: ^
[22:00] <herlimenezes> Bashing-om: ok, I have already set boot order
[22:00] <brainwash> Nematocyst: sry
[22:00] <genewitch> brainwash: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds has install instructions. I am working on it, i have to switch back to OSS noveau
[22:01] <nicomachus> brainwash: because it hasn't been released into the stable channel yet...
[22:01] <brainwash> nicomachus: "mainline: 4.9  2016-12-11"
[22:01] <Nematocyst> ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work.  rightclick brings up terminal, but just a non-blinking cursor in an empty window
[22:01] <herlimenezes> Bashing-om: as if filesystem is corrupted, although I can reach folder as user or root
[22:01] <genewitch> Nematocyst: none of the ctrl-alt-F keys work?
[22:01] <brainwash> nicomachus: what does that mean?
[22:01] <Bashing-om> herlimenezes: Boot from a liveDVD ? If we are to recover your data in perp for a clean install we need to see what we can do .
[22:02] <brainwash> nicomachus: is https://www.kernel.org/ not telling the truth?
[22:02] <Nematocyst> genewitch, ctrl-alt-f2 sorta works.  empty window, nothing types in
[22:02] <herlimenezes> Bashing-om: Ok, I will download and plug liveDVD.
[22:05] <genewitch> Nematocyst: have you googled "enter wifi password ubuntu install"
[22:05] <nicomachus> brainwash: there's a difference between "general linux release" and "ubuntu release"
[22:05] <genewitch> Nematocyst: also, why do you need to be on wifi during install?
[22:05] <Bashing-om> herlimenezes: K. bear in mind we can not in all likely hood fix that install if we need files .. as the software repository no longer exists .
[22:07] <Nematocyst> genewitch, because it prompted me for it?  probably don't.
[22:07] <brainwash> nicomachus: I don't understand. do you say that one should wait for the next ubuntu release (17.04) to see if a newer kernel fixes the problem?
[22:07] <nicomachus> brainwash: I'm saying that should be a last resort.
[22:07] <unknown___> how can i remove plymouth?
[22:08] <genewitch> Nematocyst: you don't need to update during install, you can probably just wait. I forget how to do it too.
[22:09]  * Dmitrii-Sh 
[22:10] <Nematocyst> genewitch, heh.  next time i'll use wired connection during install.  i just figured it should be easy to examine a usb drive during install
[22:15] <genewitch> Nematocyst: brainwash uname shows kernel 4.9 and still flickerin
[22:15] <genewitch> how do i get an older kernel back on
[22:16] <brainwash> remove 4.9
[22:16] <genewitch> ... you just the
[22:16] <genewitch> but
[22:18] <random123> is there any way to specify an older version of a virtual package with apt-get install?
[22:18] <random123> I can get the most recent package version with:
[22:19] <random123> sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty=3.13.0.106.114 --dry-run
[22:19] <random123> or without a version
[22:19] <random123> but what if i want 3.13.0-84
[22:19] <random123> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta-lts-trusty/linux-meta-lts-trusty_3.13.0.106.97/changelog
[22:19] <pavlos> genewitch, you could boot into grub and select the previous kernel assuming you have a few older kernels
[22:19] <HugeCannon> Anyone had issues with intel gfx driver, xrandr showing DVI output as HDMI ?
[22:19] <random123> but if i want to peg to a specific version
[22:19] <random123> is that possible?
[22:20] <random123> sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty=3.13.0.84.76 --dry-run Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Version '3.13.0.84.76' for 'linux-generic-lts-trusty' was not found
[22:20] <nacc> random123: why would you want to go back to an unsupported version?
[22:20] <nacc> random123: are you debugging something?
[22:20] <random123> is there a newer version of the package i just don't see in the changelog?
[22:21] <random123> i would want to rollback to an old version if there is an issue after an upgrade
[22:21] <nacc> random123: right, but you're rolling back to a eersion from precise
[22:21] <Bashing-om> random123: " linux-generic-lts-trusty=3.13.0.106.114 " is a conflict . trusty does in deed run the 3.13 series .,. but the HWE would run with xenial's kernel .
[22:21] <nacc> random123: which makes no sense
[22:22] <genewitch> pavlos: yes, 4.4 works fine
[22:22] <genewitch> i just wanted to be fully uptodater
[22:22] <random123> also i'd like to get consistency across machines if it isn't already
[22:22] <nacc> Bashing-om: for upgrade purposes, the package is also present in trusty, fwiw
[22:22] <nacc> random123: then have them all use the same mirror and update at the same time?
[22:23] <nacc> random123: specifying arbitrary versions is not the right way to do that
[22:23] <random123> the version isn't arbitrary
[22:23] <pavlos> genewitch, ll /boot should show you 2 kernels if you use sudo apt-get autoremove to clean up things
[22:23] <genewitch> pavlos: 4 kernels
[22:23] <random123> it is a version that is currently installed on at least one machine (but probably more)
[22:23] <nacc> random123: running what version of ubuntu?
[22:24] <random123> 14.04
[22:24] <pavlos> genewitch, sudo apt-get autoremove will keep the 2 most recent
[22:24] <nacc> !info linux-generic-lts-trusty trusty | random123
[22:24] <nacc> random123: that is the version you should get if you are current on 14.04
[22:25] <random123> how often is there an issue with software after a kernel update?
[22:25] <Bashing-om> nacc: K. but I see that trusty - NON HER had that 3.13.106 kernel .. if ya go LTS on that packaging .. are we not then HWE such that the system is looking to install xenial stack ?
[22:25] <random123> is always going to the latest version of the lts kernel ok?
[22:26] <nacc> Bashing-om: sorry, not sure if i parsed correctly, but all of 14.04.0, 14.04.1 and 14.04.5 are all supported right now
[22:26] <random123> and is there ever an issue with software configured for a box on one kernel vs another?
[22:26] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[22:26] <nacc> random123: are you attempting to troll? of course there can be issues.
[22:26] <nacc> random123: what is your actual issue you are trying to resolve?
[22:27] <nacc> random123: but you wouldn't roll back from 106.114 to 84.76 -- that is nonsense
[22:27] <nacc> random123: you would typically roll back *one* kernel, which is still installed on the system anyways
[22:27] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-lts-trusty
[22:28] <random123> i have a box(s) on an older kernel (possibly not all the same 84.76) i'd like to update the boxes and be able to roll them all back to the same version in as simple a way as possible
[22:28] <nacc> Bashing-om: only exists in precise and trusty
[22:28] <random123> if there is an issue
[22:28] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-lts-trusty trusty
[22:28] <nacc> random123: if you have 14.04 boxes running an 84.76 kernel you are incredibly out of date
[22:28] <genewitch> how do i set 4.4 kernel to default?
[22:28] <genewitch> just remove 4.8 and 4.9?
[22:28] <nacc> genewitch: what version of ubuntu?
[22:28] <tlstoy> how is caled the movie with gandalf and the ring /.
[22:29] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic-lts-xenial trusty
[22:29] <random123> its out of date, but it is known to work (or break in known ways)
[22:29] <genewitch> nacc: 16.10
[22:30] <nacc> genewitch: there is no 4.9 on 16.10
[22:30] <random123> is this just not how linux boxes get managed generally?
[22:30] <nacc> random123: you are posisbly missing CVE fixes to your machine by not updating
[22:30] <nacc> random123: at least from the security pocket
[22:30] <random123> i think that rolling back to a known state is good practice if something goes wrong later down the line
[22:30] <nacc> genewitch: why do you want to go back to 4.4? 4.4 isn't supported on 16.10
[22:31] <nacc> random123: yes, but 'good state' isn't a kernel that is unsupported
[22:31] <genewitch> nacc: because all later kernels flicker
[22:31] <random123> i'm trying to update... i just want a safe return to a known state if need be
[22:31] <Darkchaos> Short Question: If I would develop a usb device driver today, would it still get merged into the kernel or is it rather linux-next and thus say Ubuntu 18?
[22:32] <random123> nacc: its gooder than a supported state that hasn't been tested yet though isn't it?
[22:32] <random123> * state -> kernel
[22:32] <nacc> random123: the update shouldn't remove any existing kernels until you tell it to
[22:32] <random123> * and by tested i mean tested with the software deployed to it
[22:33] <nacc> random123: my point is you've clearly let your machines not stay current
[22:33] <nacc> random123: it's more than the kernel at this point, i'd assume
[22:33] <Darkchaos> random123: Well, many distros test this before it makes it's way into debian or ubuntu. The Archers test for you, for example :D
[22:33] <random123> it is a little bit with writing good deployment and rollback scripts
[22:34] <random123> just want to see if there is a simple way to get the result of being able to just name the version of the virtual package and ensure that is installed on the machine
[22:35] <givonne> can anyone help with php7 mysql activation?
[22:36] <nacc> random123: well, apt will only (iirc) install the latest version from a pocket
[22:36] <rs__> Hello guys...
[22:36] <nacc> random123: e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23661297/
[22:36] <random123> Darkchaos: i mean particular configurations etc with the software we run on the boxes (i'm sure the distros mostly test things), but there is always the details of a particular configuration which may or may not be working for some reason or another
[22:37] <nacc> random123: the thing is the d/chagnelog *may* not represent what was published
[22:37] <rs__> I have a question: When you install software from a PPA, do you get  backport security fixes (e.g. https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-6290.html)?
[22:38] <nacc> rs__: no, ppas are unsupported except by their owner, generally
[22:38] <nacc> rs__: so if the ppa owner fixes cves, then yes, but generically i would not assume you do
[22:38] <nacc> random123: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+publishinghistory
[22:38] <nacc> random123: you can see for trusty, the current is 3.13.0.106.114, but the prior one is 3.13.0.105.113
[22:38] <rs__> nacc: Excellent. Thank you very much!
[22:39] <nacc> givonne: what specifically?
[22:44] <sabaradhdc> ola
[22:44] <Pako> hi
[22:44] <sabaradhdc> u-u
[22:45] <Pako> 0_0
[22:45] <random123> nacc: do you know if there is a lifetime to the published versions?
[22:46] <prometheus> Does anybody know how to recover the file system from an external usb drive that was unplugged before ejecting it? I can still view the files/folders from the shell but when I try to use the file explorer utility under Gnome it doesn't display anything.
[22:46] <Guest88615> Hello to the group. Sorry about any issue caused by my absence. Was doing 2 major upgrade - installing SSD drive and upgrade to 64 bit.   Quick question for group as a whole... sorry if I already asked this earlier. Anyone have knowledge and/or experience in voice/speech recognition?? I read up on "Simon" - but it wants to install a lot of KDE stuff. I also read up about "Voice Control" - it wants to install a bunch a extra apps like
[22:46] <Guest88615>  Brasero and Audacious - which I neither want on need.
[22:46] <genewitch> prometheus: fsck maybe
[22:46] <random123> looks like the status of the packages gets superseded so maybe that is why it doesn't work
[22:46] <random123> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/linux-generic-lts-trusty/3.13.0.84.76
[22:46] <prometheus> I thought so but I cant get it to work properly. I tried reading the man pages and I'm confused
[22:46] <reda_> cc
[22:47] <reda_> hay
[22:48] <genewitch> ...
[22:49] <Bashing-om> pronet: Pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' and we see what we can work out .
[22:49] <nacc> random123: e.g., here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/  only shows two versions for linux-generic-lts-trusty in the archive. One is for 14.04 release and one is for 14.04 updates/security
[22:50] <nacc> random123: why are you looking at precise data, though? i thought you were on 14.04?
[22:50] <wc> hello
[22:50] <random123> it is just an example
[22:50] <random123> i kind of assume the state of the union will be similar for other versions
[22:51] <wc> I could use some help. Can't do $ sudo apt-get update --> /usr/bin/sudo: Permissão negada
[22:52] <Bashing-om> wc: Only the 1st user created has 'sudo' rights . are you that 1st user ?
[22:53] <wc> It's Lubuntu 16.10 fresh install
[22:53] <Ben64> wc: what is the output of "groups"
[22:53] <wc> Yes I am
[22:53] <JonelethIrenicus> anyone having an issue with Vivaldi not working on YouTube unless using Flash?
[22:54] <wc> I can Do software center and login logout but my terminal...
[22:54] <Bashing-om> wc: " < Ben64> wc: what is the output of "groups" "" . ??
[22:56] <wc> I do not know the output of groups... what-s it? How I do to know
[22:56] <Ben64> you type it on the terminal and tell us what it says
[22:57] <wc> ok
[22:57] <Bashing-om> wc: from the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 will yield a console interface . Here type groups . and pass back here what that output is .
[22:58] <Ben64> dpesm
[22:58] <Ben64> doesn't need console
[22:58] <wc> wc adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Ben64: true :) wc .
[22:59] <wc> What can I do to fix my sudo apt-get update?
[23:00] <Darkchaos> Well it looks like the sudo binary is not executable for the current user then?
[23:00] <Ben64> wc: please do "cat /etc/hostname /etc/hosts /etc/issue /etc/lsb-release | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:00] <core_x250> guys iknow its  a weird Q but how i go to mint chat
[23:00] <Ben64> !mint | core_x250
[23:01] <ed_pls> nooo
[23:01] <Bashing-om> !mint | core_x250
[23:01] <core_x250> i have friends in the mint chat :(
[23:01] <ed_pls> What about tahr?
[23:02] <core_x250> thx anyway for the help
[23:02] <nacc> ed_pls: what is your question?
[23:03] <core_x250> oh u did help am stupid thx
[23:03] <wc> I did what came: "bash: /bin/nc: Permissão negada"
[23:03] <Bashing-om> core_x250: :) .. fast channel . did you see : " irc.spotchat.org " ?
[23:04] <core_x250> yes thx
[23:04] <Darkchaos> That doesn't sound good. Can you e.g. try ls -ls /bin/nc
[23:06] <wc> Can I paste?
[23:06] <wc> 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 dez 20 09:47 /bin/nc -> /etc/alternatives/nc
[23:06] <Darkchaos> That is the same that my system shows... strange
[23:07] <wc> It happens twice...
[23:07] <nacc> wc: you'd need to follow the symlinks (so e.g., ls -ls /etc/alternatives/nc)
[23:07] <wc> two fresh installs
[23:08]  * zykotick9 had to follow another symlink after...
[23:08] <Darkchaos> nacc: Ah didn't know that symlinks don't contain the permissions (and yep, here it was /bin/nc.openbsd)
[23:08] <wc> So: 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 dez 20 09:47 /etc/alternatives/nc -> /bin/nc.openbsd
[23:08] <Darkchaos> Now my nc isn't world writable anymore, sounds more sane :D
[23:09] <nacc> wc: and then ls -ls /bin/nc.openbsd
[23:09] <Darkchaos> wc: and now ls -ls /bin/nc.openbsd
[23:09] <nacc> Darkchaos: right, the target's permissions are different from the links
[23:10]  * zykotick9 re:wc thinks as both sudo & nc are not working... something else is at play here...
[23:10] <Ben64> indeed
[23:10] <wc> $ ls -ls /bin/nc.openbsd
[23:10] <wc> 0 -r-------- 1 root root 0 dez 20 19:43 /bin/nc.openbsd
[23:10] <Ben64> boom
[23:10] <zykotick9> LOL
[23:11] <zykotick9> or not!
[23:11] <Ben64> wc: you broke it
[23:11] <pavlos> should be 755
[23:11] <nacc> something is pretty horribly fubar on that system
[23:11] <Darkchaos> That is what I thought. But how could one fix that?
[23:11] <Ben64> reinstall
[23:11] <nacc> and is almost certainly *not* a clean install
[23:11] <Darkchaos> Without root access?
[23:11] <zykotick9> nacc: +1
[23:11] <Darkchaos> wc: So did you do anything after installing LUbuntu which might cause that?
[23:12]  * Darkchaos ponders how bash could still run
[23:12] <wc> alright, so I must reinstall... :(
[23:12] <nacc> Darkchaos: well, bash might still be executable for some reason; as we don't know what was done to the system
[23:12] <Darkchaos> wc: Did you install something in the terminal on that system? maybe you mistyped something there?
[23:13] <Darkchaos> nacc: Or it is also gone after a reboot. Infact the system should be unbootable then, shouldn't it? (When the DE/WM etc are in /bin)
[23:14] <nacc> Darkchaos: sorry is what is gone? we don't know (afaict) taht everything is unexecutable. In fact, we know ls is executable.
[23:14] <nacc> Darkchaos: so i'm not sure what you're asking?
[23:14] <wc> a lot of software are on Lubuntu 16.10 now I think I nade something wrong
[23:15] <wc> I can use xterm to try fix my problem? It still alright
[23:16] <nacc> wc: at this point, you should reinstall. It's very unclear what has been done to your system, IMO.
[23:16] <zykotick9> nacc: +1
[23:16] <Darkchaos> nacc: Well ls could be built into bash and I guess everything is unexecutable (makes more sence than a few applications if done by mistyping). And I wonder if you can boot a system in such a condition. It's just you know, some thinking
[23:16] <nacc> wc: I would also verify the image you are using to install
[23:16] <nacc> wc: the md5sum of the iso, that is
[23:16] <nacc> Darkchaos: ls is not built into bash
[23:17] <wc> Ok. I'll do It. Thank you all. See you soon.
[23:17] <nacc> Darkchaos: i'm just not following your thinking. We only know (so far) that nc and sudo are not executable, for some reason.
[23:17]  * zykotick9 actually had to check is ls was a built-in or not... it isn't.  "which bash" and "whereis bash" confirm an /bin/ls
[23:17] <zykotick9> s/is ls/if ls/
[23:17] <wc> If there any idea to fix it...
[23:18] <Darkchaos> nacc: That wasn't directed at wc's problem, I just thought what would happen when it was the case
[23:18] <wc> $ whereis bash
[23:18] <wc> bash: /bin/bash /etc/bash.bashrc /usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz
[23:18] <zykotick9> wc: without knowing EXACTLY what caused this (was the command recursive jumps to my mind) the BEST answer is nacc's "REINSTALL"... In My Opinion...
[23:18] <Darkchaos> wc: Not really, especially when you don't know the source of that (it could even be malware trying to lock you out)
[23:19] <hernan> hi, how install ubuntu in a disc hybrid? sorry my english is basic
[23:19] <hernan> the disc ssd only it have 20GB
[23:19] <wc> Ok. It better reinstall.
[23:20] <wc> See you soon
[23:20] <nacc> Darkchaos: ah ok; if everything was marked as -x in /bin, and you had rebuilt your initramfs after that, you probably would not boot, yes :)
[23:21] <Darkchaos> nacc: And without rebuilding initramfs it would boot until the login screen would come up?
[23:22] <nacc> Darkchaos: well, it would boot until the real disk got mounted, and then you'd see a bunch of failures, i'd expect
[23:23] <medaz_23421> Hi guys i have a slow Mobile broadband connection , i'm using ubuntu 15.10 :) the download fast is betwee 7Kb ~ 20Kb but when i use windows its very cool , is up to 300Kb , can anyone tell me why ??
[23:23] <medaz_23421> plz i really need your help guys :)
[23:23] <nacc> medaz_23421: 15.10 is eol, you know that right?
[23:24] <medaz_23421> really , so what ubuntu version should i install ??
[23:24] <Darkchaos> 16.10
[23:24] <Darkchaos> or 16.04
[23:25] <medaz_23421> anyway until i install it , can you help me for now plz:
[23:25] <Darkchaos> How do you measure that download speed?
[23:26] <AndChat|646809> nload
[23:26] <medaz_23421> i see that on terminal when install some package
[23:26] <zykotick9> medaz_23421: if you want to reinstall/upgrade every couple of months use the regular ubuntu 16.10... if you are lazy pick the LTS 16.04 and reinstall/upgrade every two years...
[23:27] <bazhang> five years is lts support zykotick9
[23:27] <medaz_23421> is it a free distrubution :)
[23:27] <zykotick9> medaz_23421: an eol/unsupported release _needs_ to upgraded!
[23:27] <medaz_23421> i mean LTS 16.04
[23:27] <bazhang> medaz_23421, yes
[23:27] <zykotick9> bazhang: that's the MAXIMUM... but LTS releases (newer packages) come out every 2 years ;)
[23:28] <Darkchaos> medaz_23421: You can't use that as measurement because the (old!) servers for 15.10 might be slower than whatever you downloaded in windows
[23:28] <Darkchaos> try to use firefox or something to download a file, then you can compare it
[23:30] <medaz_23421> Darkchaos:   i try for firefox the seem thing
[23:30] <tag> Has anyone managed to successfully use "SecurePrint" from Ubuntu?
[23:31] <medaz_23421> Anyway can you give me the link for download LTS 16.04 :)
[23:31] <zykotick9> !download
[23:32] <zykotick9> !torrents
[23:33] <medaz_23421> i have 3bit processor
[23:33] <medaz_23421> *32bit
[23:34] <zykotick9> medaz_23421: you can't browse to http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 ?
[23:36] <medaz_23421> thank you guys , i will install ubuntu , LTS 16.04 then tell you if ii had any problem , thank you :)
[23:38] <medaz_23421> wich is better installl ubuntu 16.04 desktop or ubuntu gnome 16.04 desktop , i'm confused ??:)
[23:39] <Darkchaos> It depends, it will change the optics of your Ubuntu
[23:40] <Darkchaos> If you see such a strange "foot" logo you have gnome
[23:43] <xxxx> i having problems with video quality: images look well but in any video or moving the image cuts. I have intel, updated (supposed to) and since i installed linux this happened
[23:45] <zykotick9> xxxx: ".. moving the image cuts." i wonder if you mean "tearing"?  if so... LOL good luck!  it's an issue i've delt with for YEARS and always had a "little" bit - regardless of what i do ;)
[23:45] <Darkchaos> I also have it currently on a dedicated nvidia gpu :D
[23:45] <xxxx> tearing in deed
[23:45] <Darkchaos> Watch slow paced movies :D
[23:46] <xxxx> zykotick9: well, we have to keep asking
[23:46] <ed_pls> Hey, anybody knows how to read a pdf file within terminal?
[23:46] <Darkchaos> I guess google bombs you with ideas though. And you have to see whether it only is in full screen videos or not (and whether it works for Youtube)
[23:46] <zykotick9> Darkchaos: i used to run nvidia now i run intel... i've always had "some" tearing regardless of compositing or-not... driver x-y or not...  i live with it ;)
[23:47] <Darkchaos> zykotick9: I only noticed it in vlc actually, I have to investigate that a bit
[23:47] <xxxx> or at least make tearing not that hard
[23:47] <xxxx> even scroling images
[23:47] <zykotick9> ed_pls: look into poppler-utils
[23:48] <akik> xxxx: have you tried editing your /etc/drirc ?
[23:48] <xxxx> akik: nope
[23:48] <xxxx> how?
[23:48] <Darkchaos> Well you have Words like "VSync" and "Triple Buffering" to prevent such stuff, however this should only be for full screen applications since usual windows should run through the de/wm (Caution: Noob knowledge on my side)
[23:49] <akik> xxxx: check the post by Logicien at https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-983466-start-0.html
[23:50] <ed_pls> thanks random world-wide-web-surfer
[23:52] <xxxx> akik: what means this : ~/.drirc and/or /etc/drirc
[23:52] <Darkchaos> The first one is user-wide the second one system wide
[23:53] <zykotick9> xxxx: <sidenote just in case> ~ is your home directory
[23:53] <Darkchaos> but btw at least KUbuntu also has that setting in GUI, Under Display->Compositor: "Prevent Tearing (VSync)"
[23:55] <volrite> ping google.com