| Oderus | hello. i realize this is fairly basic but i cannot figure it out. i need to tell my printer the wifi password but have no clue how. any suggestions? | 01:34 |
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| Oderus | sorry i crashed. question remains if anyone knows how to tell a cannon pixma mg3500 serries printer what my wifi password is for wireless printing | 01:55 |
| sintre | i wish i could help i hate "smart " printers | 01:56 |
| sintre | never got one of ant brand to wrok right | 01:57 |
| Oderus | yeah the thing is brutal... the only way i ever got it to work wirelessly is with a windows computer and installing the entire thing. huge pain. and windows is abandonware. | 02:00 |
| sintre | ok not a kubuntu support but close enough i'm trying to help a guy from ubuntu that has a odd problem with using gparted to try and make an install | 02:04 |
| sintre | formatted his hdd | 02:04 |
| sintre | keeps getting Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda: Input/output error | 02:04 |
| sintre | when he tries to make a partition table | 02:05 |
| sintre | darin | 02:05 |
| sintre | need sillies help fo smallest problem | 02:05 |
| sintre | nm | 02:06 |
| sintre | user logged off | 02:06 |
| DarinMiller | Hey sintre. Sry, did not realize you had paged. | 02:21 |
| sintre | np he ran off after i answered his question | 02:22 |
| DarinMiller | sintre: FYI, if you use my full IRC name, konversation will highlight the channel name in red... | 02:22 |
| sintre | asked for like 10 minutes in ubuntu chat with some 1800 people on how to use gparted | 02:23 |
| sintre | so mtried to help him out | 02:23 |
| DarinMiller | sintre: bummer, that should have been an easy assist. | 02:23 |
| sintre | with thos etypes of numbers you'd think so | 02:24 |
| DarinMiller | sintre: but what is easy in person, is not always so easy online... :) | 02:24 |
| * sintre agrees | 02:25 | |
| Ahren | Hello | 02:34 |
| Ahren | I am here hoping to get support on troubleshooting a couple of issues with a new installation of Kubuntu | 02:34 |
| sintre | right place | 02:35 |
| sintre | shoot | 02:35 |
| Ahren | I have attempted to diagnose and fix the problems by searching, and attempted a couple of things already but failed to correct them. | 02:35 |
| Ahren | The first issue is less important, but relevant. My mouse cursor graphic is stuck in the top left corner of the screen. | 02:36 |
| Ahren | The cursor itself, can move around without the graphic bound to it and interact with the DE | 02:36 |
| Ahren | So, I am effectively keyboard only | 02:36 |
| Ahren | I have a terminal up however | 02:37 |
| sintre | well annoying but impressive your're here if using same system | 02:37 |
| Ahren | The second, and more urgent issue | 02:37 |
| Ahren | I'm using a windows laptop | 02:37 |
| sintre | what is your hawrdware | 02:37 |
| Ahren | Brand new self build | 02:37 |
| sintre | ohh well hmm , then | 02:37 |
| sintre | ok give us specs | 02:37 |
| Ahren | Asus Maximus VIII motherboard, i7 6700k cpu, evga gtx 1080 hydro copper gpu | 02:38 |
| sintre | gfx issues can often be resolved by using preprietary drivers | 02:38 |
| Ahren | The second issue is network connectivity | 02:38 |
| Ahren | Download speeds are abysmal, around 0.8 to 15 kbps | 02:38 |
| Ahren | upload speeds however are 8-15mbps | 02:38 |
| Ahren | it's not the line, the same cable can be plugged into another computer and achieve 100mbps+ connectivity | 02:39 |
| sintre | have you upddated at all? | 02:39 |
| Ahren | Fresh installation, no packages downloaded during installation | 02:39 |
| sintre | ok lets start there , do you have backports installed? | 02:39 |
| Ahren | I don't know, how can I check? | 02:40 |
| sintre | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports | 02:40 |
| sintre | if you don't know then you don't | 02:40 |
| sintre | use that command in konsole terminal | 02:40 |
| sintre | and what veriosn of kubtunu did you install btw? | 02:41 |
| Ahren | "Press ENTER to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it" | 02:41 |
| Ahren | 16.10 | 02:41 |
| sintre | hit enter | 02:41 |
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| Ahren | What information do you need from the result? | 02:42 |
| sintre | none | 02:42 |
| sintre | now you need to use the command | 02:42 |
| sintre | sudo apt update | 02:42 |
| sintre | when thats done you can do full upgrade | 02:43 |
| Ahren | if my console is currently in ""root@pcname:~#" from me previously executing "sudo -i", should I be omitting the "sudo" from the command? | 02:44 |
| sintre | but given snail speed you mention could take long time hour plus | 02:44 |
| sintre | your logged in as root? | 02:44 |
| Ahren | I logged in as the default user on startup and "sudo -i" in the terminal | 02:44 |
| sintre | ok do the commands work | 02:45 |
| Ahren | Yes, I was just clarifying. It appears to be in progress now. | 02:46 |
| sintre | your not gonna break anything by trying | 02:46 |
| sintre | you'll be fine i assume list is almost updated | 02:47 |
| * sintre aslo is keeping in kind your using two computers which may or may not be near each other | 02:47 | |
| Ahren | Based on speeds I'm seeing, the process will take between 30min and 8 hours. | 02:47 |
| sintre | are you updating or upgrading now? | 02:48 |
| Ahren | Yes, the sudo apt update | 02:48 |
| sintre | ok stay there and hold tight till its done :) | 02:48 |
| Ahren | Thanks for the assistance. I'll keep an eye on it and when (ever) it finishes and I'm not at work, I'll return. | 02:49 |
| sintre | ok well actually keep a note the update shoudn | 02:49 |
| sintre | t take but a few minutes | 02:49 |
| sintre | so something is wrong | 02:50 |
| sintre | i don't know enough to trouble shoot that | 02:50 |
| sintre | but can kinda elimate some things | 02:50 |
| sintre | i think its a d driver issue | 02:50 |
| sintre | it should in no way be that slow unless you in the tundra of northern alaska trying to use last dying phone line for 56k dial up | 02:51 |
| Ahren | My ISP isn't the problem | 02:52 |
| sintre | i agree , there is a driver problem | 02:52 |
| sintre | till we get you updated wre can't fix that | 02:52 |
| Ahren | If I recall correctly, my motherboard has an Intel l219-v ethernet | 02:52 |
| sintre | but hopefully once done we can | 02:52 |
| * sintre isn't blaming isp | 02:53 | |
| sintre | its most likely defaulting to lowest most general crappy low lvl generic ddriver | 02:54 |
| Ahren | I suppose all I can do now is wait | 02:54 |
| sintre | so we gotta try to fix that before even thinking aabout upgrading | 02:54 |
| sintre | what does the update say? | 02:54 |
| Ahren | 19% | 02:55 |
| Ahren | [25 Packages 550 kB/1,218 kB 45%] | 02:55 |
| sintre | well only good new is we know your hardware works , hopefully we can ge tit working better | 02:55 |
| sintre | like alot better | 02:56 |
| sintre | might as well go back to smoke signals at that speed | 02:56 |
| Ahren | it's currently operating in the range of 0-6,500 B/s | 02:56 |
| Ahren | Based on things I read while searching | 02:57 |
| Ahren | I tried two things, neither worked | 02:57 |
| Ahren | one was disabling ipv6 support | 02:57 |
| Ahren | the other was making an edit to the hosts line in nsswitch.conf | 02:57 |
| Ahren | that was on a previous install though, I've re-installed from USB since then | 02:57 |
| sintre | ok , this new personal ghhome built rig right? | 02:58 |
| Ahren | Correct | 02:58 |
| sintre | have you checked the mobo manufactuerer to see if they have any linux support? | 02:58 |
| Ahren | not directly | 02:59 |
| Ahren | cursory searches indicated there were others running various linux distributions on the same or similar motherboards | 02:59 |
| sintre | ok in mean time if new system can do it , open discover | 02:59 |
| sintre | the lil software shopping center that comes standard with kubuntu | 03:00 |
| sintre | go to sytem | 03:00 |
| sintre | and try to download addition drivers package | 03:00 |
| Ahren | I have discover open | 03:03 |
| Ahren | but I'm having difficulty locating what you mentioned | 03:03 |
| sintre | type drive rins earch window | 03:04 |
| sintre | driver sry | 03:04 |
| sintre | should look like a lil pci card icon | 03:04 |
| Ahren | there are no results if I enter drivers into the search box | 03:05 |
| sintre | driver | 03:05 |
| Ahren | or driver | 03:06 |
| sintre | ok this my faul i get your not upgraded | 03:06 |
| sintre | really that slipped my mind sry , my fault 100% | 03:07 |
| sintre | let me look for the package to direct download | 03:07 |
| sintre | what is eta on the update being done | 03:07 |
| Ahren | currently not progressing | 03:09 |
| Ahren | stuck at 24% | 03:09 |
| Ahren | now moving again at 3kbps | 03:09 |
| sintre | well trying to figure out a different solution if that pc won't dsdownload faster than that | 03:12 |
| sintre | circular catch 22 | 03:12 |
| sintre | need to download to upgrade , need to download to be able to download | 03:13 |
| DarinMiller | Ahren: Are you connected via ethernet or wirelessly to your router? | 03:13 |
| sintre | Ahren > dennis has helped out alot , he can probally find some solution | 03:15 |
| Ahren | Hello, I'm back. | 03:16 |
| Ahren | I am connected via ethernet. | 03:17 |
| Ahren | The path is PC > gigabit network switch > router > modem | 03:17 |
| Ahren | I can plug the same cable currently in the desktop into any other computer in the house and get full speeds | 03:18 |
| sintre | we get that , but how to get around it until we get your driver performing is another thing | 03:19 |
| Ahren | right | 03:19 |
| sintre | so sinse you have two pc's thats a plus | 03:19 |
| DarinMiller | By chance do you have a usb wireless adabpter you plug into the PC? | 03:19 |
| Ahren | there is one I could use | 03:20 |
| DarinMiller | Is the adapter known to work with Linux? | 03:21 |
| DarinMiller | And is you PC in wireless range of your router? | 03:21 |
| Ahren | unknown, I will try to locate a model number and check | 03:21 |
| Ahren | yes, my PC is in wireless range of my router | 03:21 |
| DarinMiller | Good. Just plug in the wireless adapter and if its recognized and supported, your network icon should show the new adapter. | 03:22 |
| DarinMiller | which version of Kubuntu did you install? | 03:23 |
| Ahren | 16.10 | 03:24 |
| Ahren | I'm not seeing anything that suggests the device is recognized | 03:24 |
| Ahren | spoke too soon | 03:25 |
| DarinMiller | Do you have network icon in the panel..... | 03:25 |
| DarinMiller | working? | 03:25 |
| Ahren | yes | 03:26 |
| Ahren | I tried to connect to my home network | 03:26 |
| Ahren | and a window popped up | 03:26 |
| Ahren | "KDE Wallet Service" | 03:26 |
| Ahren | has requested to create a new wallet | 03:26 |
| sintre | you can disable that | 03:27 |
| DarinMiller | Very good. You can cancel or create a wallet password if you want., | 03:27 |
| sintre | menu>system kwallatetmanager | 03:27 |
| sintre | disable kwallet subsystem | 03:27 |
| Ahren | Connection is established | 03:27 |
| sintre | need router passowrd | 03:27 |
| Ahren | I just closed the notifications for the time being | 03:28 |
| sintre | ok now try the update again | 03:28 |
| DarinMiller | Since your wire connection is slow, unplug the ethernet | 03:28 |
| Ahren | Done. The update appears to have stalled | 03:29 |
| DarinMiller | sometime the 1st network that is active stays primary until deactivated or disconnected. | 03:29 |
| sintre | just close terminal | 03:29 |
| Ahren | I didn't close terminal | 03:31 |
| Ahren | but it appears to have completed | 03:31 |
| Ahren | "381 packages can be upgraded" | 03:32 |
| sintre | i'd reboot before doing that imo | 03:32 |
| sintre | just to be safe | 03:32 |
| DarinMiller | no, no reboot needed. | 03:32 |
| sintre | also give a chancde after ehternet is removed not to itnerfere | 03:32 |
| sintre | ok was wrong lol thats normal though | 03:33 |
| sintre | not sur eif his wifi is giving decent pipe for upgrade yet | 03:33 |
| DarinMiller | Ahren: continue with sudo apt ugrade | 03:34 |
| DarinMiller | oh | 03:34 |
| DarinMiller | upgrade | 03:34 |
| DarinMiller | sudo apt upgrade | 03:34 |
| Ahren | Ok, I started it | 03:35 |
| sintre | pc's must be in different rooms | 03:35 |
| Ahren | ~467mb | 03:35 |
| sintre | there you are | 03:35 |
| Ahren | at workable speeds | 03:35 |
| sintre | what speed | 03:35 |
| sintre | still got figure out what wrong with your reg broadcom drivers | 03:36 |
| DarinMiller | Cool. We can check the ethernet speeds after the update | 03:36 |
| DarinMiller | your ethernet card is broadcom? | 03:36 |
| * sintre goes off to make some tea | 03:36 | |
| Ahren | It's intel | 03:36 |
| Ahren | and it's 50% done with the download now | 03:37 |
| Ahren | the usb wireless is getting ~1mbps speeds | 03:37 |
| DarinMiller | Wow, intel cards are rarely an issue. We can troubleshoot some more after the update completes. | 03:37 |
| DarinMiller | Good to hear the alternate connection is working OK. | 03:38 |
| DarinMiller | brb | 03:38 |
| Ahren | here are the motherboard specs | 03:38 |
| Ahren | Intel® I219V, 1 x Gigabit LAN Controller(s), GameFirst technology Intel® LAN- Dual interconnect between the Integrated LAN controller and Physical Layer (PHY) Anti-surge LANGuard | 03:38 |
| Ahren | the update has completed | 03:42 |
| DarinMiller | Do you have reboot icon in the panel? | 03:43 |
| sintre | still around | 03:43 |
| Ahren | Hmm | 03:43 |
| sintre | this time i would rreboot :) | 03:43 |
| DarinMiller | Regardless, reboot. new Plasma packages. | 03:43 |
| Ahren | Ok | 03:44 |
| DarinMiller | It may lockup during shutdown: If it freeze for more than 15 seconds, do an alt+sysreq+REISUB | 03:44 |
| Ahren | No issues, it appears to be rebooted back to the DE now | 03:45 |
| DarinMiller | that means hold down the alt key, then press print screen (sysreq) followed by REISUB (holding the alt key the entire time). | 03:45 |
| sintre | guess next thing is to dwnload that driver package | 03:45 |
| sintre | or searcher i should say see if something is there | 03:46 |
| DarinMiller | Cool. SSD? | 03:46 |
| Ahren | M.2 | 03:46 |
| DarinMiller | Nice. :) | 03:46 |
| DarinMiller | OK unplug the wireless and plug in the ethernet. | 03:46 |
| Ahren | Ok, connections are switched. | 03:47 |
| DarinMiller | Use system monitor your network manager window and try to download something big like the kubuntu ISO or something. | 03:48 |
| DarinMiller | s/your/or | 03:48 |
| sintre | or youtube | 03:48 |
| sintre | or both | 03:48 |
| Ahren | I opened up an internet speed test in firefox | 03:48 |
| Ahren | still seeing a 0.06mbps download | 03:48 |
| DarinMiller | or that :) | 03:49 |
| Ahren | and 2.10mbps upload | 03:49 |
| sintre | um ok head scratch | 03:49 |
| DarinMiller | OK: ifconfig -a | 03:49 |
| sintre | go to discover and install that driver update software you should be able to download it now | 03:49 |
| DarinMiller | and paste contents here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 03:49 |
| sintre | or what dennis said | 03:49 |
| Ahren | Ok, pasting the results may be difficult for me | 03:50 |
| DarinMiller | ? | 03:50 |
| Ahren | I'm in this IRC on a laptop | 03:50 |
| Ahren | the system we're troubleshooting | 03:50 |
| DarinMiller | Oh, got it. | 03:50 |
| Ahren | also has an issue with the mouse cursor | 03:51 |
| DarinMiller | plug in your wireless adapter again. | 03:51 |
| DarinMiller | Do you have another mouse? | 03:51 |
| Ahren | the mouse cursor graphic | 03:51 |
| Ahren | is stuck in the top left corner | 03:51 |
| Ahren | the "cursor" itself is invisible | 03:51 |
| Ahren | and my mouse works to move it around and interact with things in the DE | 03:52 |
| Ahren | I tried using another mouse and had the same issue | 03:52 |
| sintre | honestly thats really odd | 03:52 |
| sintre | if after update thats still there | 03:52 |
| sintre | on the kubuntu install | 03:52 |
| sintre | hopefully its a sriver issue | 03:53 |
| DarinMiller | That's weird. I agree with sintre, let's go for the driver update to see if any proprietary drivers are available. | 03:53 |
| DarinMiller | Familiar with krunner? | 03:53 |
| Ahren | ok, there's a driver manager notification in the notification area | 03:53 |
| Ahren | it opens to a dialogue asking me to choose an nvidia driver | 03:53 |
| sintre | whats it say | 03:53 |
| Ahren | I have two choices, nvidia binary driver or nouveau | 03:54 |
| DarinMiller | Alt-spacebar : system settings <enter> | 03:54 |
| DarinMiller | Select the recommended binary driver | 03:54 |
| DarinMiller | Wireless card plugged in? | 03:54 |
| Ahren | yes it is | 03:54 |
| DarinMiller | very good. | 03:54 |
| Ahren | there's a checkbox for "using processor microcode firmware for intel cpus from intel-microcode" | 03:55 |
| Ahren | should I check it before applying the change? | 03:55 |
| DarinMiller | Yes, OK to do both same time. | 03:56 |
| Ahren | Ok, that's in progress | 03:57 |
| Ahren | Also, I have that system settings window open | 03:57 |
| sintre | i get same option for my self in my core 2 duo , doesn't hurt | 03:58 |
| sintre | new lappy is a budget i3 , but had a ssd laying around :) | 03:58 |
| Ahren | Ok, that completed | 03:59 |
| DarinMiller | Ahren: I was going to direct you to the Driver Manager in system settings, but you beat me to it. :) | 03:59 |
| sintre | 250 crucial mx 200 | 03:59 |
| DarinMiller | Reboot again and hopefully your funny pointer issue disappears. | 03:59 |
| Ahren | Ok | 03:59 |
| sintre | is it a wired mouse or are you using touch pad ? | 04:00 |
| Ahren | Wired mouse | 04:00 |
| Ahren | Ok, so I attempted to reboot | 04:00 |
| Ahren | there was an error message and nothing happened | 04:00 |
| sintre | ahh me too , or hybrid i should say my systems all but on eare notebooks | 04:01 |
| Ahren | subsequent attempts at rebooting from menu do nothing | 04:01 |
| DarinMiller | ctrl-alt-shift-pageup | 04:01 |
| sintre | i don't think i've used touchpad on this lappy in a year | 04:01 |
| Ahren | I took a wild guess and typed reboot into terminal | 04:01 |
| Ahren | and it appears to have done the job | 04:01 |
| DarinMiller | that works too :) | 04:01 |
| sintre | lol done that to | 04:02 |
| Ahren | Ok, I am capable of learning as I go still. | 04:02 |
| Ahren | That's good news. | 04:02 |
| sintre | had a pain in but prog and said got darnit sudo apt remove gbrainy | 04:02 |
| DarinMiller | old systems required sudo reboot. I like the shorter method. :) | 04:02 |
| sintre | then it removed it lol | 04:02 |
| Ahren | 10+ years of exclusively Windows hasn't helped me any | 04:02 |
| sintre | kind freaky actually never knew that command existed | 04:02 |
| Ahren | Alright, I'm rebooted and can use the cursor normally | 04:02 |
| sintre | ewooot | 04:02 |
| DarinMiller | Yes! | 04:03 |
| sintre | ok cursor problem down now to wire ethernet | 04:03 |
| sintre | so moment of truth | 04:03 |
| Ahren | First issue, resolved. I'm extremely appreciative | 04:03 |
| sintre | hey your the one helping us help you | 04:03 |
| sintre | if you didn't we couldn't ya know | 04:04 |
| DarinMiller | leave the wireless card in and run lspci and paste into the link above if you can. | 04:04 |
| DarinMiller | also, run: ifconfig -a | 04:05 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 04:06 |
| AhrenLinux | user@TERMINAL:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 07) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Skylake PCIe Controller (x16) (rev 07) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 31) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H CSME HECI #1 (rev 31) 00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H SATA contro | 04:06 |
| DarinMiller | If your internet is slow, you may need to disconnect your wired connection. I am not sure if | 04:06 |
| AhrenLinux | Oops, sorry | 04:06 |
| DarinMiller | np :) | 04:07 |
| AhrenLinux | Now posted into the appropriate URL | 04:07 |
| DarinMiller | just a little harder to read that way | 04:07 |
| DarinMiller | um, can you past the url that the pastebin created? | 04:08 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662303/ | 04:08 |
| DarinMiller | ah, much better.... | 04:08 |
| DarinMiller | also, do an ifconfig -a | 04:08 |
| DarinMiller | and send to pb | 04:09 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662309/\ | 04:10 |
| AhrenLinux | Left a typo on the end of that url.. | 04:10 |
| DarinMiller | got it | 04:10 |
| AhrenLinux | The ethernet is unplugged, by the way. should I plug it back in? | 04:12 |
| DarinMiller | Not yet. Still searching for something meaningful... | 04:12 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 04:13 |
| DarinMiller | I have never done this before for a network adapter but it's worth a shot. Go here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/15817/Intel-Network-Adapter-Driver-for-PCI-E-Gigabit-Network-Connections-under-Linux- | 04:14 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 04:14 |
| AhrenLinux | I downloaded the archive | 04:14 |
| DarinMiller | I have used the intel video drivers on an LTS so I trust intel. But I am surprised as 16.10 should already have these drivers in the 16.10 (4.08 kernel). | 04:15 |
| DarinMiller | I recommend using dolphin, right click on the download files and select Extract to > here. | 04:16 |
| DarinMiller | Read through the readme file: https://downloadmirror.intel.com/15817/eng/README.txt | 04:17 |
| DarinMiller | Are you familar with changing directories in the command line? | 04:18 |
| AhrenLinux | with the cd command correct? | 04:18 |
| DarinMiller | yes | 04:18 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok, should I follow the intel instructions step by step? | 04:19 |
| DarinMiller | just a sec. Let me read the instructions to ensure this is necessary. | 04:21 |
| AhrenLinux | ok | 04:21 |
| DarinMiller | Installing these drivers won't (pronouced "should not") hurt anything as they will only run if it detects the correct hw. | 04:24 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 04:24 |
| DarinMiller | run sudo lshw > t.txt | 04:24 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm not that deep in, so if something gets broken I can always re-install. Now I know the usb wireless card works at least. | 04:25 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok, I ran it | 04:25 |
| DarinMiller | feel free to instal | 04:25 |
| sintre | well we're invested we want to see this work | 04:25 |
| sintre | :) | 04:25 |
| DarinMiller | sudo make install? | 04:25 |
| DarinMiller | the make install line was preceed with a # character which means run with root privileges, i.e. sudo make install | 04:26 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm afraid you lost me at some point, I'm sorry | 04:27 |
| DarinMiller | theorectically you should not have to reboot. disable or unplug wifi and plug in the ethernet. | 04:27 |
| AhrenLinux | Should I be navigated to the extracted driver directory in termal? | 04:27 |
| DarinMiller | yes. | 04:28 |
| DarinMiller | you can also navigate with dolphin. then hit the f4 key to drop you to a terminal in that directory. | 04:28 |
| DarinMiller | wait, I think I found the correct intel driver: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/82186/Intel-Ethernet-Connection-I219-V | 04:29 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok, if I f4 inside the e1000e-3.3.4 directory | 04:29 |
| AhrenLinux | ok | 04:29 |
| DarinMiller | sry | 04:29 |
| AhrenLinux | if I run "sudo make install" or "#sudo make install" inside the extracted directory nothing appears to happen | 04:30 |
| DarinMiller | sudo make install | 04:31 |
| DarinMiller | or you can sudo su | 04:31 |
| AhrenLinux | "no rule to make target install" | 04:31 |
| AhrenLinux | do I need to be in the src folder? | 04:31 |
| DarinMiller | and you will stay in terminal with root level privilges. And root can do almost anything .... like kill kittens... and files... | 04:32 |
| DarinMiller | the folder that contains the "make" file. | 04:32 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662362/ | 04:33 |
| AhrenLinux | Result | 04:33 |
| DarinMiller | hmmm, type uname a | 04:33 |
| DarinMiller | should be 4.8.xxxx | 04:33 |
| AhrenLinux | 4.8.0-32-generic | 04:34 |
| DarinMiller | the readme file is a little different in this one.... | 04:35 |
| DarinMiller | you need to do a make from the src directory, then do a sudo make install | 04:37 |
| DarinMiller | Assuming you unpacked the file, jump straigh to step 7. | 04:39 |
| sintre | AhrenLinux? still around | 04:40 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm here | 04:41 |
| DarinMiller | wow, this should not be this difficult for an ethernet card.... I have never seen a non-wireless card require any drivers. This one appears to require drivers and a little fiddling. | 04:41 |
| sintre | ok :) | 04:41 |
| AhrenLinux | But I'm not quite getting it I don't think | 04:41 |
| AhrenLinux | I unpacked the driver .tar.gz | 04:41 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenLinux: type: pwd | 04:41 |
| AhrenLinux | ok | 04:41 |
| AhrenLinux | I navigated into the resulting directory in dolphin, then into the src directory | 04:42 |
| DarinMiller | what is your "working directory" | 04:42 |
| AhrenLinux | I pressed f4 to open a terminal | 04:42 |
| AhrenLinux | it is "/home/user/Downloads/e1000e-3.3.4/src" | 04:42 |
| DarinMiller | perfect | 04:42 |
| AhrenLinux | my current command line reads "root@TERMINAL:/home/user/Downloads/e1000e-3.3.4/src# " | 04:43 |
| DarinMiller | type: make | 04:43 |
| DarinMiller | any errors? | 04:43 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662382/ | 04:43 |
| DarinMiller | if you already typed make, it may say nothing to make. | 04:43 |
| DarinMiller | same as before... argh. | 04:44 |
| DarinMiller | 64bit version of Kubuntu I assume? | 04:45 |
| AhrenLinux | yes | 04:45 |
| sintre | AhrenLinux do you have a link to your mobos manual by any chance | 04:45 |
| AhrenLinux | https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/MAXIMUS-VIII-RANGER/HelpDesk_Manual/ | 04:46 |
| DarinMiller | New route: want to try the latest kernel? Requires downloading 3 files and running dpkg -i lin*.deb. | 04:46 |
| AhrenLinux | KInfocenter says I have kernal version 4.8.0-32-generic | 04:47 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm willing to try an update if you'll walk me through it | 04:47 |
| DarinMiller | I am running the 4.9 kernel on 3 boxes and so far no issues. | 04:47 |
| DarinMiller | OK, go here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9/ | 04:47 |
| AhrenLinux | ok | 04:48 |
| DarinMiller | You can find the canononical kernel list by googling: kernel ubuntu | 04:48 |
| DarinMiller | Under this section: Build for amd64 succeeded | 04:48 |
| DarinMiller | download 3 of the files: | 04:48 |
| AhrenLinux | Alright | 04:49 |
| DarinMiller | skip the low latency files | 04:49 |
| DarinMiller | so: linux-headers-4.9.0-040900_4.9.0-040900.201612111631_all.deb | 04:49 |
| DarinMiller | linux-headers-4.9.0-040900-generic_4.9.0-040900.201612111631_amd64.deb | 04:49 |
| DarinMiller | linux-image-4.9.0-040900-generic_4.9.0-040900.201612111631_amd64.deb | 04:49 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok, they'll be complete shortly | 04:49 |
| AhrenLinux | Done | 04:50 |
| DarinMiller | they are fairly small | 04:50 |
| DarinMiller | all 3? | 04:50 |
| AhrenLinux | Yes | 04:50 |
| DarinMiller | go to your download folder | 04:50 |
| AhrenLinux | ok | 04:50 |
| DarinMiller | you should see all 3 files | 04:50 |
| DarinMiller | do an ls *.deb | 04:51 |
| AhrenLinux | yes | 04:51 |
| AhrenLinux | alright | 04:51 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662418/ | 04:51 |
| DarinMiller | If there are only 3 files listed run: sudo dpkg -i lin*.deb | 04:51 |
| DarinMiller | perfect | 04:51 |
| AhrenLinux | ok it's executing | 04:52 |
| * sintre hopes this work has he looked at mobo manual and its only 6 pages long | 04:53 | |
| DarinMiller | the above command tells the debian package manager to install the 3 matching deb files. Since you installed the NVidia driver, that will automatically compile into the new kernel thanks to dkms. | 04:53 |
| AhrenLinux | Sintre that can't be right, it's 200 or so | 04:53 |
| AhrenLinux | ok, looks like it has completed | 04:54 |
| DarinMiller | OK, reboot and lets try the cable again | 04:54 |
| sintre | lol j/k found the big one | 04:54 |
| sintre | the link i hit was the win7 install guide | 04:55 |
| * sintre inserrts humility into chatrom | 04:55 | |
| DarinMiller | :) | 04:56 |
| DarinMiller | You're back :) | 04:56 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok | 04:56 |
| AhrenWindows | I'm on my laptop | 04:56 |
| DarinMiller | Oh? | 04:56 |
| AhrenWindows | It's booted back to linux | 04:57 |
| DarinMiller | whew? | 04:57 |
| DarinMiller | ! | 04:57 |
| AhrenWindows | but plasma crashed | 04:57 |
| AhrenWindows | and the display is not running at native res | 04:57 |
| DarinMiller | oh! | 04:57 |
| DarinMiller | Dang. Sry about that. Two options: | 04:58 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok | 04:58 |
| DarinMiller | Can you run konsole from krunner? | 04:58 |
| sintre | https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/17509/Intel-Network-Adapter-Gigabit-Base-Driver-for-FreeBSD-?product=82186 | 04:59 |
| AhrenWindows | Well, I had a dolphin window open | 04:59 |
| DarinMiller | alt-spacebar to open krunner | 04:59 |
| AhrenWindows | and I console open inside it | 04:59 |
| AhrenWindows | *I have | 04:59 |
| sintre | these are the most specific drivers i can find for your card | 04:59 |
| AhrenWindows | and that keyboard shortcut is not working | 04:59 |
| DarinMiller | ok that works | 04:59 |
| DarinMiller | how did you launch dolphin? | 05:00 |
| AhrenWindows | it was open when I rebooted | 05:00 |
| DarinMiller | Oh, crap, but fortuitous crap. | 05:01 |
| AhrenWindows | My open applications seem to be persistent when I reboot | 05:01 |
| DarinMiller | hit f4 and type killal plasmashell | 05:01 |
| AhrenWindows | unless I'm rebooting wrong | 05:01 |
| DarinMiller | Yes, that is a good thing for this instance. | 05:01 |
| AhrenWindows | No process found | 05:01 |
| DarinMiller | run plasmashell & | 05:02 |
| DarinMiller | I doubt it will run, but it's worth a shot... | 05:02 |
| AhrenWindows | run command not found | 05:03 |
| DarinMiller | This issue is your Nvidia drivers don't like the new kernel. So we can either uninstall the kernel or update the video drivers. | 05:03 |
| DarinMiller | bad spelling on my part: plasmashell & | 05:03 |
| AhrenWindows | Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL2 | 05:04 |
| AhrenWindows | Well, we're this far in, might as well try the driver update | 05:04 |
| DarinMiller | launch ff or chrome and search for nvidia ppa | 05:05 |
| DarinMiller | firefox & | 05:05 |
| DarinMiller | or google-chrome & | 05:06 |
| AhrenWindows | ok | 05:06 |
| DarinMiller | https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 05:06 |
| DarinMiller | then install the ppa: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa | 05:06 |
| AhrenWindows | doesn't look like the wireless connection is working currently | 05:07 |
| AhrenWindows | I guess I have to unplug and replug it after a reboot | 05:07 |
| DarinMiller | networkmanager can be started from the command line... but to make things easier: | 05:08 |
| sintre | maybe after this we should just go nuclear , with wireless doggle installed and downgrade to 16.04 to see if that gets it stable | 05:08 |
| DarinMiller | reboot and hold down the shift key after the bios lights ups. | 05:09 |
| AhrenWindows | ok the process seems to have completed | 05:09 |
| AhrenWindows | I'll reboot now | 05:09 |
| DarinMiller | 16.04 has it's own set of issues and I would recommend staying with 16.10 | 05:09 |
| DarinMiller | Which process? | 05:09 |
| sintre | yea i got one myself :) | 05:09 |
| DarinMiller | :) | 05:10 |
| AhrenWindows | I ran "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa" | 05:10 |
| AhrenWindows | and rebooted | 05:10 |
| DarinMiller | I thought you did not have internet? | 05:10 |
| AhrenWindows | I re-plugged the dongle | 05:11 |
| AhrenWindows | and it reconnected | 05:11 |
| DarinMiller | Oh, ok. good. Um is dolphin sitll alive? | 05:11 |
| AhrenWindows | So, for now I'll just remember to do that when I reboot. | 05:12 |
| AhrenWindows | It is | 05:12 |
| DarinMiller | drop to a terminal and type sudo apt update | 05:12 |
| DarinMiller | followed by sudo apt fullupgrade | 05:12 |
| AhrenWindows | "invalid operation fullupgrade" | 05:13 |
| sintre | full-upgrade | 05:13 |
| DarinMiller | correct^ | 05:13 |
| AhrenWindows | there we go | 05:13 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok, it's in progress. | 05:14 |
| sintre | checking your mobo manual cool as hell but nothing in your firmware about your integrated nic lol | 05:14 |
| sintre | of course thats our luck | 05:14 |
| DarinMiller | I type sudo apt f<tab> and it auto completes so I never remember that a dash is in there. | 05:14 |
| AhrenWindows | ok, looks like it completed | 05:15 |
| DarinMiller | This might take a few minutes to download and recompile | 05:15 |
| DarinMiller | The nvidia ppa is a good ppa and we can leave it active even if we need to un-install the 4.9 kernel. But I am confident this will work. | 05:16 |
| AhrenWindows | Should I reboot now? | 05:17 |
| DarinMiller | whenever it finishes, yes | 05:17 |
| AhrenWindows | Already getting my moneys worth out of that M.2 ssd... | 05:17 |
| DarinMiller | LOL | 05:17 |
| DarinMiller | SSD's are run after using HD's | 05:18 |
| DarinMiller | s/run/fun | 05:18 |
| AhrenWindows | Yeah this is my first time using an SSD, so at least there's that. | 05:19 |
| DarinMiller | install/update finished? | 05:19 |
| DarinMiller | hey! | 05:20 |
| AhrenLinux | Yes, and I'm back on the desktop | 05:20 |
| DarinMiller | awesome! | 05:20 |
| AhrenLinux | I'll leave the laptop connected for now just in case. | 05:20 |
| sintre | ok test ethernet ? | 05:20 |
| DarinMiller | yes, test away. | 05:20 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 05:20 |
| AhrenLinux | No change there | 05:21 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm on the wired connection, but same low speeds. | 05:21 |
| AhrenLinux | So, I'm reconnecting to wireless. | 05:22 |
| sintre | well looking at your manual , two things are going on at this point | 05:22 |
| sintre | defective mobo or wrong settings | 05:22 |
| sintre | a mimilalist distro can make almost any lan card run | 05:23 |
| DarinMiller | Another shot in the dark: when was the last time you powered off your rounter? I have never seen them cause a wired issues, but I have seen them refuse wireless connections. Easy test.... | 05:23 |
| AhrenLinux | I figured if it were a hardware issue it wouldn't be working at all. | 05:23 |
| AhrenLinux | Oh it's been ages | 05:23 |
| AhrenLinux | I'll have to check with other users on the network to see if it's ok to re-initialize | 05:23 |
| sintre | ahtren > have you tried a live cd with your ethernet? | 05:23 |
| sintre | even if thats vanilla ubuntu | 05:23 |
| AhrenLinux | I tried the internet on a live-usb version of 16.04 | 05:24 |
| AhrenLinux | and 16.10 | 05:24 |
| AhrenLinux | and had the same issue | 05:24 |
| AhrenLinux | I have .iso's downloaded for xubuntu and ubuntu, as well as arch and antergos | 05:24 |
| DarinMiller | does your laptop have an ethernet port? | 05:24 |
| AhrenLinux | But, Kubuntu was my first choice | 05:24 |
| AhrenLinux | It does | 05:24 |
| sintre | around page 108 of your manual it has mention of your ehternet config settings | 05:25 |
| DarinMiller | Have you tried the wired connection on the laptop? | 05:25 |
| sintre | you might have adefecive mobo | 05:25 |
| sintre | defective | 05:25 |
| AhrenLinux | Yes, if I try the wired connection on the laptop | 05:26 |
| AhrenLinux | I get full speeds | 05:26 |
| AhrenLinux | I figured if the mobo was defective the ethernet wouldn't work at all | 05:26 |
| AhrenLinux | but anything is possible I suppose | 05:26 |
| sintre | well 0000.kb a seconds is imo same spped as omish collect calls | 05:26 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenLinux: I agree, I don't usually see a partial failure. But with wired connections, I never see issues either. | 05:27 |
| AhrenLinux | The only network related bios setting that I saw was related to network booting, which I wont be using. | 05:27 |
| sintre | ok two things i need to ask first | 05:28 |
| sintre | not version but mode did you install kubuntu | 05:28 |
| sintre | and what partition table was it in | 05:28 |
| sintre | ms/dos or gtp | 05:28 |
| sintre | so legacy/ or uefi | 05:29 |
| AhrenLinux | mode? I used Rufus on windows to create a bootable USB with an .iso torrented from the Kubuntu website | 05:29 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenLinux: what router do you have? | 05:29 |
| sintre | darin do you know a konsole command to check the partion table of current ssd | 05:29 |
| AhrenLinux | Asus RT-AC66R | 05:29 |
| DarinMiller | sintre: you mean like: df -l | 05:30 |
| sintre | just need him to figure out how installed it | 05:30 |
| DarinMiller | sintre: or something stronger like fdisk ? | 05:30 |
| sintre | looking at his manual alot of his setting are newer firmware for uefi | 05:30 |
| DarinMiller | yes, just a sec.. | 05:31 |
| sintre | if he installe din legacy that could be explainations for alot of this | 05:31 |
| DarinMiller | sintre: fdisk -l | 05:31 |
| sintre | aloso no mention or shoof some backward compatability | 05:31 |
| sintre | not for me but for athren | 05:31 |
| sintre | got the install version but forgot all along to ask how he set it up | 05:32 |
| sintre | the uefi thing can go backwards compatibily but horribly buggy | 05:32 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenLinux: very similar router as mine. If it were older, I would suggest we disable ipv6, but all everything you have on the hw and sw side should support it without issue. But it's an easy test... | 05:33 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok | 05:34 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenWindows: right click on your network icon , select network settings | 05:34 |
| AhrenWindows | There's also a Network ProSAFE GS105E between my router and desktop | 05:34 |
| DarinMiller | select your wired adapter | 05:34 |
| DarinMiller | oh, not familiar with that. How old it it? | 05:35 |
| AhrenWindows | not very, it's a gigabit capable switch | 05:35 |
| AhrenWindows | *netgear | 05:35 |
| DarinMiller | so maybe the ipv6 test is still valid.... | 05:35 |
| AhrenWindows | not network, sorry | 05:35 |
| sintre | https://thepasteb.in/p/LghNyLmj8W4FZ | 05:36 |
| DarinMiller | ok, under your network connections right click on your wired adapter and select edit | 05:36 |
| sintre | this is from your manual | 05:36 |
| AhrenWindows | ok I have the edit window open | 05:37 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenWindows: on the far right ip6 tab | 05:38 |
| DarinMiller | change the method to ignored. | 05:38 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 05:39 |
| AhrenWindows | Then switch back to wired and test? | 05:39 |
| DarinMiller | click ok and reconnect to the network.... just a sec ... finding the command | 05:39 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 05:40 |
| AhrenWindows | sintre, I can check for that setting when I reboot | 05:40 |
| DarinMiller | yes, but I want to renegocitate the connection... and a I am drawing a blank... it nmcli <something> | 05:40 |
| AhrenWindows | but I imagine if it were disabled in bios it wouldn't be working at all | 05:40 |
| sintre | k need to go to advanced settings | 05:40 |
| sintre | after your in bios | 05:41 |
| sintre | https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxMjR7g3wCV | 05:42 |
| sintre | lmao you have a smart mobo | 05:42 |
| sintre | its being stubborn though | 05:42 |
| DarinMiller | nmcli con | 05:42 |
| DarinMiller | to list connections | 05:42 |
| DarinMiller | nmcli con down id 'Connection' | 05:42 |
| DarinMiller | nmcli con up id 'Connection' | 05:43 |
| DarinMiller | or just restart since your PC is so freakin' fast :) | 05:43 |
| sintre | man his mobo has so many special settings | 05:44 |
| sintre | fps to talking to your phone funny | 05:44 |
| DarinMiller | Yes, Asus MB are lots of fun. | 05:44 |
| sintre | thats why i think he may of installed wrong | 05:44 |
| sintre | if it won't freakin work the lan card | 05:44 |
| AhrenWindows | Btw, in the bios right now. LAN controller is enabled | 05:45 |
| AhrenWindows | Is there anything else I should check here before I boot back in? | 05:45 |
| sintre | try to find this section | 05:45 |
| DarinMiller | nope, just boot and try again.' | 05:46 |
| sintre | https://thepasteb.in/p/lOhO0LARW4DtB | 05:46 |
| sintre | should be a network monitor in there | 05:47 |
| DarinMiller | ooo, scarey | 05:47 |
| DarinMiller | I doubt they wrote a linux equiv. pkg for that.... | 05:47 |
| AhrenWindows | Well | 05:48 |
| sintre | at this point who does let linux guys do it for us | 05:48 |
| AhrenWindows | I rebooted and on the wired connection | 05:48 |
| AhrenWindows | the latest test yields 0.17mpbs down | 05:48 |
| AhrenWindows | 3.21 mbps up | 05:48 |
| DarinMiller | wtx? | 05:49 |
| AhrenWindows | the same test on my laptop plugged into the same cable give 99/11 | 05:50 |
| sintre | did yousee last post | 05:50 |
| sintre | from bios | 05:50 |
| sintre | https://thepasteb.in/p/lOhO0LARW4DtB | 05:50 |
| sintre | you should be able to check network status | 05:51 |
| sintre | or firmware as you use uefi | 05:51 |
| sintre | or maybe i'm mistaken and thats a crappy wincrap program | 05:52 |
| sintre | never read a mobo manual so fast before :) | 05:52 |
| AhrenWindows | I think it's software for windows, I don't see how it would be affecting my connection here | 05:52 |
| DarinMiller | some Asus board have special usb port for upgrading the bios, independent of the OS. | 05:53 |
| sintre | if it was pure firmware it could test | 05:53 |
| sintre | network outside any os | 05:53 |
| sintre | that could giv e us somethingto go on | 05:53 |
| AhrenWindows | yeah i believe this mobo has that feature | 05:53 |
| sintre | please go try to find it | 05:53 |
| sintre | as we're on almost 2 hours now | 05:53 |
| sintre | happy to help but this is almost at dead end | 05:54 |
| sintre | but tomorrow is another day and will help again for another our hours if needed | 05:55 |
| sintre | but let elimate as much as possible at this point | 05:55 |
| AhrenWindows | Not sure where to go from here | 05:56 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenWindows: what is you bios version? | 05:56 |
| sintre | i'd personally return the motherboard if you still can | 05:57 |
| DarinMiller | and did you check the asus site for newer version? | 05:57 |
| AhrenWindows | I have not yet, I'll check | 05:58 |
| phoenixz | Hi there, Some history and ranting: I just got me a kickass new computer ASUS motherboard, 2x240GB SSD in RAID0, multiple video cards for (currently 2, next month 3) monitors.. My experience so far: Hell.. I need full disk encryption because I have sensitive customer data on my machines. I want multiple monitors, so I have 3 quite (no ventilator) nvidia cards.. I want to use KDE. I prefer Ubuntu. I so far tried Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, Mint 17.3, | 05:58 |
| phoenixz | Mint 18, and all huge failures.. | 05:58 |
| phoenixz | All but mint 18 either would fail @ install, or fail @ first boot and not even show the login screen.. Mint 18 would at least install, boot up, and then give me a highly unstable desktop huge amount of image tearing, slow, flickering, and freezes.. But at least it would do somehting so I tried to press on, hoping that a kernel update might fix it.. Update kernel, reboot, and the entire install is gone, wiped.. Tried it again, same thing, after | 05:58 |
| phoenixz | rebooting like twice the entire install is gone.. Now I removed the RAID0, rebooted, and now mint 18 is actually working.. well, decent, even! | 05:58 |
| phoenixz | So now, can Linux actually work with a RAID0 configuration? | 05:58 |
| phoenixz | Also, these drives are kingston hype fury drives, should do 500MB/ sec a second.. in RAID0 mode, I got no more than 440MB/sec (cat /dev/zero > /test, checking dstat) and without raid0 now I get 200MB/sec... Is this normal? | 05:58 |
| sintre | phoenixz> dude man that huge fkin spam aint wantted or needed | 05:59 |
| AhrenWindows | Well the bios at the bottom says "Version 2.17.1246" | 05:59 |
| AhrenWindows | Is there another / better way to check? | 05:59 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenWindows: sudo su | 06:01 |
| sintre | inside of bios only way , except for a prog from asus | 06:01 |
| DarinMiller | then run: dmidecode | 06:01 |
| AhrenWindows | I think I'll attempt to install the latest bios version | 06:02 |
| phoenixz | sintre: spam? | 06:02 |
| phoenixz | sintre: I'm sorry, what gave you that impression? | 06:03 |
| sintre | who starts of with two damn paragraphs | 06:03 |
| sintre | sry , it is support channel but few people been trouble shooting a issue for two hours in here | 06:03 |
| phoenixz | Loads of people that I've talked to on IRC.. If that is an issue for you then I apologize, just a lot of ingo I had | 06:04 |
| sintre | just two have your enterance | 06:04 |
| sintre | our attention elsewhere | 06:04 |
| sintre | my apologies for any hurt feelings | 06:04 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok, latest bios version from ASUS is currently installing | 06:05 |
| DarinMiller | phoenixz: I don't have any raid experience, but I see raid tests on Phoronix on occasion and I have friends that run raid, so it can work. But sry, I do not know how to assist. | 06:05 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenWindows: I have to work tomorrow so I am heading to bed shortly. IF the bios update does not work, maybe someone else will have more ideas tomorrow. If you solve the problem please let me know how you fixed it! | 06:08 |
| AhrenWindows | I'm about done for tonight too | 06:08 |
| AhrenWindows | It's 11pm here and I have to be in the office tomorrow | 06:08 |
| DarinMiller | BIOS updates don't take long so I will wait for your reboot. | 06:08 |
| phoenixz | DarinMiller: Thanks anyway.. Just frustrated here that I spent quite a bit and so far its been absolutely worthless | 06:09 |
| DarinMiller | Same here (Meridian ID) | 06:09 |
| DarinMiller | phoenixz: I can totally relate. I should setup a raid box just so I have the experience :) | 06:09 |
| sintre | i too am sleepy , so see how this goes , if not i'll be around tomorrow | 06:10 |
| phoenixz | DarinMiller: Just out of curiosity.. Do you happen to know anything about SSD drive rated speed and real speeds? I could understand if 500MB/sec in reality would be 450, or 400 even.. but 200? | 06:14 |
| DarinMiller | phoenixz: drive write speeds have lots of dependencies like file and number files, so the write speed refers to a specific test for a certain size file. | 06:16 |
| DarinMiller | phoenixz: checkout tom's hardware for SSD drive comparisons. He runs quite a few different tests across the major SSD brands. | 06:17 |
| phoenixz | DarinMiller: well.. this was a simple write test.. cat /dev/zero > /tmp and then dstat showing the transfer / sec | 06:17 |
| DarinMiller | phoenixz: what was your speed? | 06:17 |
| sintre | i think we need a kubuntu benchmark program | 06:18 |
| sintre | and of course have somebody else make it because i can't | 06:18 |
| DarinMiller | sintre: Michael at Phoronix has a huge test suite, free to download and compare to other systems. Very impressive. He writes speed test article all the time and updates the tests regularly. | 06:20 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenWindows: BIOS update complete? | 06:21 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 06:23 |
| AhrenLinux | I performed the bios upgrade | 06:23 |
| AhrenLinux | and ran the dmi decode | 06:23 |
| AhrenLinux | here are the results | 06:24 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662714/ | 06:24 |
| AhrenLinux | it appears there is no change in the ethernet performance | 06:24 |
| sintre | well atleast for tonight i think maybe this is best place to stop i'm about to fall asleep at keyboard lol | 06:25 |
| AhrenLinux | I appreciate your assistance | 06:26 |
| DarinMiller | well, we can say we tried. | 06:26 |
| sintre | and we can stubburnly try tomorrow | 06:27 |
| sintre | but i would get into bios | 06:27 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenLinux: np, maybe something with more ethernet experience will have more ideas tomorrow... | 06:27 |
| sintre | and see if there are any test tools or such looking thru your manual looks like there is in the firmware | 06:27 |
| DarinMiller | s/somthing/someone | 06:27 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm not sure what the best path forward is. I would like to eliminate it being a hardware issue for sure, but I'm not sure how | 06:27 |
| * DarinMiller need to go to bed... : ) | 06:27 | |
| sintre | we'll give it a go tomorrow again if need be | 06:28 |
| AhrenLinux | DarinMiller thank's for all the help. At least we fixed a couple issues | 06:28 |
| hateball | What seems to be the unresolved issue? | 06:28 |
| sintre | 1 i would try a different live cd from another flavore of ubuntu just to rule out so odd package or driver missing | 06:28 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm getting abysmal internet speeds over my onboard ethernet connector | 06:28 |
| sintre | but i think we've done that tonight , but just a next step to make sure | 06:29 |
| AhrenLinux | on the order of 0.05mbps | 06:29 |
| hateball | Well that is indeed a bit poor | 06:29 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: What things have you done to troubleshoot it? | 06:29 |
| DarinMiller | sintre: most drivers are in the kernel so I would be very surprised if another distro fixes it. | 06:29 |
| sintre | i know but i hold out hope | 06:29 |
| sintre | i think get real familiar with bios firmare may be a start | 06:30 |
| AhrenLinux | Darin would be better able to describe | 06:30 |
| AhrenLinux | But so far I've updated the bios, updated the kernal, updated my packages | 06:30 |
| hateball | As for a different flavor of Ubuntu, they all use the same kernel | 06:30 |
| AhrenLinux | we've tried disabling ipv6 | 06:30 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: Do you know if the cable is intact? | 06:30 |
| DarinMiller | hateball: we attempted to install the Intel drivers, but they complained that the kernel was too old. | 06:30 |
| AhrenLinux | I've eliminated the cable by plugging in another computer at the same point | 06:31 |
| hateball | Right | 06:31 |
| sintre | i think there is a bios setting somewhere | 06:31 |
| DarinMiller | Then we upgraded to the kernel to 4.9 (and had to add the NVidia ppa to enable the patched drivers). But still no luck. | 06:31 |
| sintre | you have massive asus firmware you need to look at | 06:31 |
| DarinMiller | Then we upgraded to BIOS. | 06:32 |
| AhrenLinux | So, the adapter is on and "working" but not correctly. My gut tells me if there were a hardware issue it wouldn't work at all, but I don't know. | 06:32 |
| sintre | well it make no sense , at this point all things could be don't os update side has been done | 06:33 |
| hateball | It can be tricky like that, hence me asking about the wiring as well :) | 06:33 |
| DarinMiller | hateball: we also tried disabling ipv6 for the ethernet card. | 06:33 |
| hateball | Have you checked what speed has been negotiated? | 06:33 |
| DarinMiller | hateball: no, but that's a good idea. | 06:34 |
| hateball | certain chipsets and switches/routers dont always autonegotiate proper | 06:34 |
| sintre | well some isp do cap bandwith | 06:34 |
| AhrenLinux | You'll have to walk me through it hateball, this is my first time in GNU/Linux | 06:34 |
| sintre | so maybe his main win system | 06:34 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: Also, do you have another device on the LAN you can test throughput to/from? | 06:34 |
| sintre | that was many years ago with my ispp though | 06:35 |
| hateball | WAN testing is... not awesome | 06:35 |
| AhrenLinux | I have a laptop on wifi, but not another one on ethernet | 06:35 |
| hateball | assuming the laptop gets >0.05mbps, that should suffice | 06:35 |
| AhrenLinux | It's seeing ~20mbps speeds over wifi | 06:35 |
| AhrenLinux | If I plug the cable from the desktop into it, 90-100 | 06:36 |
| DarinMiller | hateball: [22:50] <AhrenWindows> the same test on my laptop plugged into the same cable give 99/11 | 06:36 |
| hateball | Well then all that should be fine | 06:36 |
| sintre | whats the test to test bandwith from konxssole | 06:37 |
| sintre | or command rather | 06:37 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: What's your interface name? try "ethtool eth0 |grep Speed" | 06:37 |
| hateball | assuming eth0 is your interface, that is | 06:38 |
| hateball | That will show the negotiated speed | 06:38 |
| hateball | actually, just pastebin the entire output of "ethtool eth0" | 06:38 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662739/ | 06:39 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: The laptop is running windows then? | 06:39 |
| AhrenLinux | Yes | 06:39 |
| sintre | https://thepasteb.in/p/Y6hkE5g8PEqt7 | 06:40 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: run "ifconfig" to determine your interface name first, it's like en* something if it's a new install | 06:40 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm on the IRC on the laptop as AhrenWindows, and the desktop as AhrenLinux | 06:40 |
| sintre | that was a very boring read out lol | 06:40 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662744/ | 06:40 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: And what chipset/driver was in use? "lspci -k" to show that | 06:40 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662747/ | 06:41 |
| hateball | that's a lot of errors | 06:43 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: anyhow, it'd be "ethtool enp0s31f6" | 06:44 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662753/ | 06:45 |
| AhrenLinux | A lot of errors? | 06:46 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: yes, RX errors | 06:46 |
| AhrenLinux | I guess that's probably related to my issue | 06:46 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: anyhow, we could try lowering the link speeds, but that's a long shot | 06:47 |
| AhrenLinux | Sorry about my lack of baseline knowledge. I've previously owned nothing but laptops for work with Windows. | 06:47 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: so that would be "sudo ethtool -s enp0s31f6 speed 100 duplex full" | 06:47 |
| AhrenLinux | I built this desktop and decided to install Linux | 06:47 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: There's nothing to be sorry about :) | 06:47 |
| hateball | Well, apart from ethernet not working properly | 06:47 |
| sintre | by contrast my read out looms like this | 06:48 |
| AhrenLinux | ok, I ran that command and ran ethtool enp0s31f6 again | 06:48 |
| AhrenLinux | it now shows speed 100MMb/s | 06:48 |
| sintre | https://thepasteb.in/p/AnhrLjVpKGySv | 06:48 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: can you try just randomly using the internet before we test further? | 06:49 |
| AhrenLinux | er, and a speed test I ran shows 81mbps download now | 06:49 |
| AhrenLinux | So, that got my speeds up somehow | 06:49 |
| sintre | go to you tube see if you can stream a vid | 06:50 |
| hateball | right, so that would indicate a problem where the router and your NIC negotiates a speed that is not functional... but do some more testing to be sure | 06:50 |
| AhrenLinux | Streaming in 1080 is effectively instant | 06:50 |
| AhrenLinux | Planet Earth II trailer plays like a dreamm | 06:51 |
| DarinMiller | Cool. glad I stayed up as I learned something! | 06:51 |
| AhrenLinux | So, my home network consists of | 06:51 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: Well then we'll need to make that workaround permanent | 06:51 |
| sintre | ok is this a dream , is it really working | 06:51 |
| AhrenLinux | A netgear CG3000D modem provided by my ISP | 06:52 |
| AhrenLinux | an Asus RT-AC66R router | 06:52 |
| AhrenLinux | and a netgear gs105e switch | 06:52 |
| AhrenLinux | the desktop is connected to the switch | 06:52 |
| DarinMiller | AhrenLinux: is your eth cable cat 5e or above? http://www.howtogeek.com/210326/not-all-ethernet-cables-are-equal-you-can-get-faster-lan-speeds-by-upgrading/ | 06:53 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: any way you could try connecting directly to the router? | 06:54 |
| AhrenLinux | It reads "CAT5E patch cable" | 06:54 |
| hateball | DarinMiller: Well, it shouldnt have negotiated gigabit if it wasnt | 06:54 |
| hateball | altho who knows ;d | 06:54 |
| AhrenLinux | At least the one from desktop to switch does. Another cable runs fromm switch to router | 06:55 |
| AhrenLinux | I'll have to see if I have a longer ethernet cable | 06:55 |
| AhrenLinux | Or move some things around. Router is across the office and all. | 06:55 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: just looking to pinpoint where the source of error is | 06:56 |
| AhrenLinux | of course | 06:56 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: if we can autonegotiate and get good performance directly through the router, well then something is off on the way through the switch | 06:56 |
| DarinMiller | good find hateball, I am signing out for the night. | 06:56 |
| AhrenLinux | I can switch in a minute | 06:56 |
| sintre | well lets find this out i;m interested | 06:56 |
| sintre | because we literrally went thru everything else | 06:57 |
| AhrenLinux | I have to wait for another household member to get off the network | 06:57 |
| sintre | :) | 06:57 |
| jfd5xte | Packaging question: Anybody know anything re: Digikam 5 for Kubuntu? | 06:57 |
| sintre | ok well then i find out tomorrow then lol | 06:57 |
| hateball | It should be noted this is what I do for my day job, so I have seen these silly issues a few times :p | 06:57 |
| hateball | speaking of, I probably should try and get some work done | 06:57 |
| sintre | well hateball> we went thru two hours of silly issue before you joined so not er new | 06:58 |
| sintre | if this is it i'm gonna bacng my head against wall lol | 06:58 |
| AhrenLinux | sintre, silly or not I'm now running the latest kernal and gpu drivers at least. We also discovers lots of things that weren't causing the issue | 06:58 |
| AhrenLinux | Which is almost as useful | 06:58 |
| sintre | no time worth spent | 06:59 |
| sintre | no time well spent | 06:59 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok, I'm now connected directly to the router | 06:59 |
| sintre | please come back over week and keep me updated so we can claim some victory on this thing | 06:59 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: right, so we'll want to set to autonegotiate again | 07:00 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok | 07:00 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: actually I am not sure if that might already be the case, run ethtool enp0s31f6 again | 07:01 |
| hateball | I noticed we didnt turn autoneg off when setting manual speed | 07:01 |
| hateball | so unplugging may trigger a renegotiaton | 07:01 |
| AhrenLinux | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662789/ | 07:02 |
| AhrenLinux | Doesn't look that way | 07:02 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: well the advertised speeds would be from your router | 07:03 |
| hateball | or should be... hmm... but that router has gigabit iirc | 07:03 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: anyhow, do "sudo ethtool -r enp0s31f6" | 07:03 |
| sintre | well that seem normal like mine , other read out you had was like 1000mb max speed instead 100 | 07:03 |
| AhrenLinux | ok I ran that | 07:04 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: check the regular output again | 07:04 |
| AhrenLinux | showing the sammme | 07:04 |
| AhrenLinux | *same | 07:04 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: hmmm, just for comparisons ssake, on your windows laptop, does that also show 100mbit link speed? | 07:05 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: because that router should have gigabit speeds | 07:06 |
| AhrenLinux_ | hateball connection shows 1gbps on laptop | 07:09 |
| hateball | weird | 07:10 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: we could for fun, try and force gigabit "sudo ethtool -s enp0s31f6 speed 1000 duplex full" | 07:10 |
| hateball | that'll most likely end up in sadness, so use "sudo ethtool -s enp0s31f6 speed 100 duplex full" to return | 07:10 |
| AhrenLinux_ | Ok, I ran that | 07:11 |
| hateball | do a speed test or so | 07:11 |
| AhrenLinux_ | and the speed test results are back to slow | 07:11 |
| hateball | yep | 07:11 |
| AhrenLinux_ | 0.02 mbps | 07:11 |
| AhrenLinux_ | so, I forced it back to 100 | 07:12 |
| hateball | So, the problem here then is that the kernel driver for some reason is not super awesome, and with the switch it autonegotiates for gigabit, which it cant handle | 07:12 |
| hateball | but the router recognizes this, and negotiates for 100mbps | 07:12 |
| AhrenLinux_ | Ok | 07:12 |
| hateball | so we'll want to force 100mbps as a permanent workaround | 07:12 |
| AhrenLinux_ | Ok, so there is a driver issue preventing me from getting gigabit speeds. | 07:13 |
| AhrenLinux_ | So help me force the 100mbps permanent workaround, and let me know what I need to keep an eye on to be updated in the future | 07:13 |
| AhrenLinux_ | Please :) | 07:14 |
| hateball | So it would seem. It is possible there's kernel parameters to fix this, but I am not familiar with the chipset so | 07:14 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux_: right, so you'll want to "sudo nano /etc/rc.local" and add "sudo ethtool -s enp0s31f6 speed 100 duplex full" without quotes at the bottom of that file, ctrl+x to close and save | 07:14 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux_: then try a reboot, and check with "ethtool enp0s31f6" that 100mbps has been set | 07:15 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok, just connected back through the switch | 07:15 |
| hateball | rc.local *should* wait for networking, but... I am not 100% with systemd. otherwise we'll go a different route | 07:15 |
| AhrenLinux | Last message I saw was "because that router should have gigabit speeds" | 07:16 |
| AhrenLinux | All other computers on the network get gigabit speeds | 07:16 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: so you saw nothing after that message? | 07:18 |
| hateball | you've replied, after all :p | 07:18 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm sorry, all I got was "[00:15] <hateball> rc.local *should* wait for networking, but... I am not 100% with systemd. otherwise we'll go a different route" | 07:19 |
| AhrenLinux | I had a brief connection interruption that knocked me out of IRC on both clients | 07:19 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: maybe the web client is crappy like that | 07:20 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23662823/ | 07:20 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com is useful also, but they arent instantly flushed so they lag a bit | 07:20 |
| AhrenLinux | Ok, I think I did that correctly | 07:21 |
| AhrenLinux | I'm going to reboot | 07:21 |
| sintre | gl | 07:22 |
| sintre | ? | 07:23 |
| AhrenLinux_ | Alright, I may not have done that correctly | 07:25 |
| AhrenLinux_ | Because it appears to have reverted to 1gbps | 07:25 |
| hateball | AhrenLinux: pastebin the contents of /etc/rc.local | 07:25 |
| hateball | well it's entirely possible you did it right, just that networking wasnt up when the command tried to run | 07:26 |
| AhrenLinux_ | Ok, when I open up the rc.local file in /etc/ | 07:26 |
| AhrenLinux_ | The line is there | 07:26 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok, I'll have to resume working on this tomorrow. | 07:31 |
| hateball | oh | 07:31 |
| AhrenWindows | I need to be in the office tomorrow and it's getting late | 07:31 |
| hateball | well, at least you know how to workaround the problem | 07:32 |
| AhrenWindows | but I have time to finish this if it wont take too long | 07:32 |
| hateball | I'd clean out /etc/rc.local to be sure it isnt interfering | 07:32 |
| hateball | there is a proper way to do this with the if-up scripts, but that'll be a bit... much | 07:32 |
| AhrenWindows | if by clean out you mean make sure there is nothing in the file but that one line | 07:33 |
| AhrenWindows | it was blank to begin with | 07:33 |
| hateball | AhrenWindows: yep | 07:33 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok, it's just that line | 07:33 |
| hateball | oh, I just noticed that network manager lets you do this in the gui now :D | 07:33 |
| hateball | too used to doing things the cli way | 07:33 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok, should I return the rc.local to its blank state? | 07:34 |
| hateball | AhrenWindows: yes | 07:34 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok, done | 07:35 |
| hateball | AhrenWindows: then you click the icon for network in your tray, and press the... slider thing, to go into settings | 07:35 |
| hateball | rightclick the entry for ethernet in that list, and edit | 07:35 |
| AhrenWindows | Uncheck autonegotiate and set speed to 100 for wired connection? | 07:36 |
| sintre | trying to edit mtu? | 07:36 |
| hateball | AhrenWindows: yep | 07:36 |
| AhrenWindows | Ok, GUI's I can navigate alright thanks to many years of putzing around in Windows | 07:36 |
| hateball | :D | 07:36 |
| hateball | it helps to know both | 07:36 |
| AhrenWindows | I'm learning as I go | 07:36 |
| hateball | the best way | 07:36 |
| AhrenWindows | I finally built a desktop PC | 07:37 |
| AhrenWindows | And decided it was time to go Linux as well | 07:37 |
| AhrenWindows | It's been a long learning process having never done either before | 07:37 |
| AhrenWindows | But, no time like the present | 07:37 |
| hateball | \o/ | 07:37 |
| AhrenWindows | I built this PC for gaming too, so I still get to look forward to getting a VM working with PCI passthrough | 07:38 |
| hateball | well now that you've got things working properly, you can focus on the important things. like games. | 07:38 |
| AhrenWindows | But, all in due time. I can't thank you enough for the help. | 07:38 |
| hateball | that's a whole different headache :D | 07:38 |
| * hateball only plays native games, maaaaaaaaaaaaybe something in Wine | 07:38 | |
| AhrenWindows | I'm petered out for tonight, but I'm pleased with the progress I've made. | 07:39 |
| sintre | so it it solved | 07:39 |
| AhrenWindows | Maybe tomorrow is the day I get Star Citizen running. | 07:39 |
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| sintre | ehternet full reg speed now? | 07:39 |
| AhrenWindows | It's kind of solved, sintre. I would like to get my gigabit connectivity working at some point | 07:39 |
| AhrenWindows | But it's not necessary for now | 07:39 |
| AhrenWindows | 100mbps is much better than .01 | 07:40 |
| sintre | what was the setting in entwork manager you hit | 07:40 |
| sintre | netiwork | 07:40 |
| AhrenWindows | I just set it to not autonegotiate and default to a 100mbps connection | 07:40 |
| sintre | hmm well glad it works , i can't get an site to give me more than say 70 mbps , so i think your as fast as you'd be even if you dont find a way | 07:41 |
| sintre | mine i set to auto negotiate | 07:41 |
| AhrenWindows | Goodnight all, and thanks again. | 07:41 |
| sintre | glad for ya man , but along the way as you said eveything else got upgraded :) | 07:42 |
| sintre | night man | 07:42 |
| hateball | Well if you have 100mbps WAN and arent bothered with LAN speeds when 100mbps link is OK | 07:44 |
| sintre | what you hardware can do and what you'll get from you isp are kind different | 07:45 |
| hateball | As I said, some of us are also concerned with LAN speeds :) | 07:45 |
| hateball | or have gigabit wans | 07:45 |
| sintre | never seen a download off of my " lightning " high speed cable internet surpass from any location 18 mbs | 07:45 |
| sintre | but if i wanted ot download alot of stuff from alot places at same time i get ya | 07:46 |
| sintre | well ahren was getting 00000.7 kb a second he got big upgrade lol | 07:46 |
| sintre | hopefully the help he got will keep him interesting in kubuntu | 07:47 |
| sintre | thanks to you :) | 07:47 |
| jfd5xte | Hey. I don't suppose, anybody knows whether there is a maintainer for digikam packages? I'm surprised that Digikam 5.x hasn't yet made it into the distro. Any thoughts? | 07:50 |
| hateball | jfd5xte: I'd try asking in #kubuntu-devel | 07:51 |
| jfd5xte | Oh, ok thanks! | 07:52 |
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