[04:25]  * Kilos wonders where superfly is now
[04:25] <Kilos> morning everyone
[04:47] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[04:47] <magespawn> good morning
[04:58] <Langjan> Good morning all
[04:58] <Langjan> Lekker geslaap Kilos? 
[05:13] <Kilos> ja dankie Langjan 
[05:13] <Kilos> en jy
[05:13] <Kilos> whats this playing with the win thing
[05:15] <Kilos> at least all your probs have taught you how to get here
[05:19] <Kilos> wbb
[05:24] <Kilos> back
[05:38] <magespawn>  did not even see you go
[05:41] <Kilos> hehe
[05:41] <Kilos> nature called
[05:42] <Langjan> Ja ek ook dankie
[05:43] <Kilos> wat is stukkend vandag
[05:43] <Langjan> Niks verder nie
[05:43] <Kilos> sjoe dit gaan reen
[05:43] <Langjan> nog net daai graphics ding
[05:44] <Kilos> het jy n graphics kaart in die hande gekry
[05:44] <Langjan> nee maar ek is seker dis die probleem, soek nog
[05:44] <Kilos> n goeie graphics kaart laat jou systeem ook vinniger werk
[05:45] <Langjan> I want to swap hard drives 
[05:45] <Kilos> goetkoopste een wat ek kom kry toe ek my desktop gebou het was R300 dink ek
[05:45] <Kilos> i see that but why the win worry
[05:45] <Kilos> what do you want to do with it
[05:45] <Kilos> and what drives you want to swop
[05:46] <Langjan> Its just a backup for the odd occasion that I need it but is handy and is a licensed version
[05:46] <Kilos> swop is ruil om and swap it the virtual memory linux uses
[05:46] <Langjan> so I keep it on Juanita's drive where it was OEM
[05:46] <Kilos> aha
[05:47] <Kilos> that tutorial seems quite straight forward
[05:47] <Langjan> according to that link you can make it think it did not migrate
[05:47] <Kilos> yes looks like it
[05:48] <Langjan> When I bought that box my intention was to change the drives around until I was warned about the licence issue
[05:49] <Kilos> seems safe to do it
[05:49] <Kilos> is it xp still?
[05:49] <Langjan> well I cannot lose much, especially if I clone the win partition  
[05:49] <Langjan> no its win 7
[05:50] <Langjan> I also have a win xp disk and key
[05:51] <Langjan> use it on my vbox
[05:52] <Langjan> I will have a go after Christmas, kids coming today
[05:52] <Kilos> ok
[05:53] <Langjan> meanwhile I asked Intel about that upgrade error message, hope they can sort something out
[05:53] <Kilos> good luck
[05:53] <Langjan> Thks will keep you posted
[05:54] <Kilos> i think padda tried it but didnt feed back
[05:54] <Langjan> naughty
[05:55] <Kilos> he will most likely tell today, or he did but i had already gone to bed
[05:55] <Langjan> oh so recently? When I popped the Q ?
[05:56] <Kilos> after you went off yesterday he said he was installing it to see
[05:56] <Langjan> OK will be interesting
[05:57] <Kilos> yeah
[05:57] <Kilos> eeeek
[05:57] <Kilos> graphics cards over 2k
[05:58] <Kilos> maybe go to pc rebuilders and see if they have a good scond hand one for you
[05:58] <Kilos> or just dont use full screen
[05:58] <Langjan> Ouch! Im sure there are many second hands lying around. Guys who upgraded for games. OK Kilos I'm asking for permission to quit, will keep in touch
[05:59] <Kilos> have a good day sir
[05:59] <Langjan> First see if Intel comes up with upgrade
[05:59] <Kilos> yes
[05:59] <Langjan> You also my friend
[05:59] <Kilos> go well
[05:59] <Kilos> ty
[05:59] <Langjan> thanks you too - still in Rustenburg?
[06:00] <Kilos> yes
[06:00] <Langjan> until when?
[06:00] <Kilos> permanent or till i work a plan for oz to accept me
[06:01] <Kilos> too much stress by sis with alky husband
[06:01] <Langjan> OK well good luck with all that
[06:01] <Langjan> makes sense
[06:01] <Kilos> ty my friend
[06:01] <Langjan> Dink aan julle almal
[06:01] <Langjan> mooi loop
[06:01] <Langjan> Groete aan jou meisies
[06:01] <Kilos> damkie baie en als van die beste vir julle
[06:01] <Kilos> sal so maak dankie
[06:02] <Langjan> Gaaf dankie
[06:02] <Langjan> cheers for now
[06:02] <Kilos> cheers
[06:22] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:25] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy 
[06:25] <Kilos> padanews from the fly?
[06:26] <Kilos> ai!
[06:26] <Kilos> paddatrapper 
[07:09] <magespawn> brb
[08:11] <magespawn> back
[08:20] <inetpro> wb magespawn
[08:20] <inetpro> goeimore mense
[08:20] <inetpro> Kilos: it's still more né?
[08:21] <inetpro> of is dit nè?
[08:21] <inetpro> watter ene is korrek: né, nè of nê?
[08:29] <chesedo> morning all
[08:31] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[08:31] <Kilos> hello inetpro 
[08:31] <Kilos> you ok old man
[08:32] <Kilos> dont make me think, head exploding
[10:28] <chesedo> hi time2dock, first time i've seen you here
[10:29] <Kilos> oh my
[10:29] <time2dock> yes and getting to know irc so take it easy on me :P
[10:29] <Kilos> hi time2dock welcome to ubuntu-za
[10:29] <Kilos> thats why we are here.
[10:30] <Kilos> over to you chesedo 
[10:30] <chesedo> lol, np time2dock. and welcome to our channel
[10:30] <inetpro> welcome to ubuntu-za time2dock
[10:30] <time2dock> Thanks Kilos and everyone
[10:31] <chesedo> time2dock: are you an Ubuntu user? or need help with anything?
[10:32] <time2dock> like to see peoples comments, just learning use it with wordpress and docker
[10:33] <chesedo> wow docker, i take it that you are well versed with linux then
[10:34] <time2dock> no learn as you go
[10:34] <chesedo> so how long have you used linux/ubuntu?
[10:34] <time2dock> I am a cheat I use ubuntu desktop
[10:35] <Kilos> thats not cheating thats wise
[10:35] <time2dock> aim is to use server on its own in the end
[10:35]  * chesedo cannot believe Kilos just called Unity usage wise
[10:36]  * inetpro lol 
[10:36] <chesedo> time2dock: since you mentioned wordpress, i take it that it is a web server?
[10:37] <time2dock> yes
[10:37] <chesedo> time2dock: will you be using apache or nginx?
[10:38] <time2dock> been using apache mainly, not sure how docker works
[10:39] <time2dock> nginx is mainly for load balancing from what I read
[10:40] <chesedo> time2dock: you can use nginx for load balancing, but you can use fpm with it to serve PHP code
[10:41] <chesedo> the main thing in docker will be to mount the volume with the site code (as is set in the virtual hosts) and to expose the ports
[10:43] <time2dock> some where in the mix is docker swarm, and docker compose - but learn as I go
[10:43] <paddatrapper> Kilos: News from the fly - landed safely in Doha this morning. Now he's on the leg to Chicago
[10:43] <time2dock> nice
[10:44]  * chesedo knows about the existence docker swarm (but not really what it is), but uses compose all the time rather than creating containers manually
[10:45] <Kilos> ty paddatrapper 
[10:45] <Kilos> time2dock you are welcome to hangout here 24/7
[10:46] <time2dock> awesome, thanks
[10:46] <Kilos> maybe you can help some of us as well sometime
[10:47] <time2dock> ye when I know what is going on more :P happy to
[10:48] <Kilos> cool :D
[14:41] <jerit> UGH people in #linux are so dickheaded and condescending >:(
[14:53] <inetpro> jerit: eish!
[14:54] <inetpro> anything we can help with?
[14:56] <jerit> just been working out how to get ubuntu installed on the blade my dad brought me from work
[14:56] <jerit> but I screwed up the disc since its apparently not bootable
[14:57] <jerit> managed to figure things out though so now I'm installing
[14:57] <time2dock> well done jerit
[14:57] <jerit> I just hope I don't have to configure my apt sources though I have a dark suspicion that will be necessary
[14:58] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:58] <jerit> oh wait, now its configuring apt so holding thumbs
[14:58] <jerit> how goes Kilos
[14:59] <Kilos> always remember to make disks bootasble before anything else
[14:59] <Kilos> im ok ty and you?
[14:59] <jerit> doing well aside from some serious sunburn on my back
[14:59] <Kilos> gnome disk utility does a good job of formatting to mbr
[15:00] <Kilos> rub vicks on
[15:00] <jerit> like vaporub?
[15:00] <Kilos> that will calm it down and also stop peeling
[15:00] <Kilos> yes vicks vaporub
[15:01] <Kilos> how come you go to #linux and not here
[15:01] <Kilos> ai!
[15:01] <Kilos> we know everything
[15:01] <Kilos> except what weve forgotten
[15:02] <Kilos> ill be in and out, making curry
[15:02] <jerit> you gonna share Kilos? I could go for a good curry
[15:03] <inetpro> +1 for some curry
[15:04] <jerit> sudo apt-get install curry -f get-in-my-belly
[15:04]  * inetpro can smell it even
[15:05] <jerit> I got so badly burned yesterday I couldn't even go out in the sun today... It felt like a million pins just pricking into my skin
[15:06] <Kilos> lol
[15:07] <Kilos> vicks
[15:07] <jerit> should I install GRUB to mbr?
[15:07] <Kilos> even for other burns
[15:07] <Kilos> even on blisters
[15:07] <Kilos> yes
[15:07] <Kilos> best place for grub
[15:13] <jerit> so now the server's installed but I can't remote into it :(
[15:13] <jerit> suppose i ought to install SSH for that hey
[15:14] <Kilos> yip
[15:15] <Kilos> storming here, power could go
[15:15] <jerit> problem is I don't have another screen/keyboard for it so every time I wanna work on it, I have to unplug my stuff and swap it between the server and my pc
[15:15] <Kilos> oh inetpro have you met time2dock 
[15:16] <Kilos> if you ssh in you dont need a screen
[15:16] <Kilos> or use remmina
[15:16] <jerit> ya but to do that I need ssh on it
[15:16] <jerit> and to get ssh on it I need to swap keyboard/screen to it
[15:17] <Kilos> sudo apt install openssh i think it was called
[15:17] <Kilos> lemme check
[15:17] <jerit> yeah that's right
[15:17] <jerit> sudo apt-get install openssh I believe
[15:17] <Kilos> i see ssh as well so even apt instal ssh should work
[15:18] <Kilos> inetpro you the pro
[15:18] <Kilos> no more apt-get needed
[15:18] <Kilos> plain apt now
[15:18] <Kilos> apt has evolved
[15:18] <Kilos> about same as aptitude now
[15:18] <Kilos> imo
[15:19] <Kilos> time2dock if you just watch what happens here you can pick up lots
[15:19] <Kilos> just dont forget like i do
[15:20] <jerit> I'd have thought telnet into the thing would work but it doesn't
[15:21] <Kilos> do you have the ip?
[15:21] <jerit> yup
[15:22] <jerit> assuming the DHCP doesn't change it
[15:22] <Kilos> then ssh should work
[15:22] <Kilos> ah
[15:22] <Kilos> i cant remember how i got to ssh in
[15:23] <Kilos> after help from fly or pro it was easy
[15:23] <Kilos> might have to allow it from the server side
[15:25] <jerit> for ssh I'll need an SSH key though
[15:26] <Kilos> paddatrapper chesedo advise please
[15:26] <Kilos> pro seems on his way home or family time
[15:27]  * paddatrapper reads the backlog
[15:27] <paddatrapper> jerit: What version of Ubuntu have you installed?
[15:28] <jerit> 14.04.4
[15:28] <jerit> might be a bit out of date though
[15:28] <paddatrapper> And openssh installed?
[15:29] <paddatrapper> what is the error message `ssh <user>@<ip>` returns?
[15:29] <jerit> PuTTy just says connection refused
[15:29] <jerit> oy vey
[15:29] <paddatrapper> Do you have a terminal/linux machine handy to test with?
[15:29] <jerit> unable to locate package openssh
[15:30] <paddatrapper> apt update
[15:30] <chesedo> jerit: you need openssh-server not just openssh
[15:30] <jerit> okay so that's installing
[15:31] <jerit> done
[15:31] <paddatrapper> jerit: have you set a password for the user?
[15:31] <jerit> which user? I only have 1 user here that I created while installing linux
[15:32] <paddatrapper> this is on server. That works
[15:32] <paddatrapper> If that's the user you wish to ssh in as
[15:32] <jerit> yes so that's fine
[15:32] <Kilos> thanks paddatrapper ches
[15:32] <paddatrapper> then try ssh in, you'll be prommted for your username
[15:33] <paddatrapper> s/prommted/prompted/
[15:33] <paddatrapper> s/username/password
[15:33] <paddatrapper> s/username/password
[15:33] <paddatrapper> urg...
[15:34] <jerit> just can't do things the easy way... wanted to try from my laptop here but fucking putty won't run -_-
[15:34] <Kilos> you ok paddatrapper ?
[15:35] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Yeah, just tryping too fast for my own good :)
[15:35] <paddatrapper> jerit: Install linux :)
[15:35] <jerit> done that
[15:35] <Kilos> language jerit swensitive people here
[15:35] <jerit> on the server I'm trying to remote into
[15:36] <Kilos> you trying to ssh from a windows machine?\
[15:36] <paddatrapper> jerit: I mean on the laptop, but doesn't matter. You should be able to ssh into it now using the password
[15:36] <jerit> when I have an ssh client that works
[15:36] <jerit> or at least runs on here... this is old (it still runs vista)
[15:36] <Kilos> ai!
[15:36] <Kilos> thats easy to fix
[15:37] <paddatrapper> Once you are connected you'll need to copy the public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and you should be able to ssh in using your key
[15:37] <jerit> what is my ssh key?
[15:37] <Kilos> boot from ubuntu disk and choose the use the whole disk option
[15:37] <Kilos> hehe
[15:38] <paddatrapper> jerit: If you haven't got one I suggest just use password. Don't know how to generate a key on Windows
[15:39] <jerit> nothing I ever download on this stupid laptop ever runs
[15:39] <jerit> anyway, I am into the server now
[15:39] <paddatrapper> Awesome
[15:41] <jerit> I know its probably rules, Kilos so I'll check my language in future, but I want to discuss this for a moment... Is the sensitivity of others really anyones responsibility but theirs?
[15:41] <Kilos> mine
[15:41] <Kilos> my feelings get hurt hehe
[15:42] <jerit> because someone uses words that are typically regarded as bad ones?
[15:42] <Kilos> at times we have ladies here so if we stay used to keeping language clean there are no slipups
[15:43] <Kilos> we also have serious christians here so we dont want to offend anyone, we all try to respect others feeling
[15:43] <Kilos> s
[15:43] <Kilos> dont take offence
[15:44] <Kilos> thats the way we are here
[15:45] <jerit> I'm much more of a bad person I guess it could be politely said by some people then
[15:46] <jerit> Unless we're dealing with family or friends, I tend not to care about peoples feelings. I'm responsible for what I say and do, not for how my words or actions make others feel
[15:47] <jerit> consequently I'm not very used to moderating myself
[15:47] <jerit> anyway, I need to go brush the pool so I'll be back soon
[15:56] <jerit> Just started raining
[15:56] <jerit> You would think cold rain would feel nice on sunburn... It doesn't
[15:57] <Kilos> lol its cold
[15:58] <Kilos> my motto is treat others with the respect you would like to be treated with as well
[15:58] <Kilos> vicks will help you. do half your back and see the diffs tomorrow
[15:59] <jerit> I don't think we have any and now its pouring with rain so guaranteed nobody's gonna go get
[16:00] <jerit> I treat everyone with as much respect as I'd like to receive until said person demonstrates they're not worth my respect
[16:00] <Kilos> thats the way
[16:02] <Kilos> the idea is to make friends of everyone here so they dont begrudge helping you
[16:02] <Kilos> wish it would rain here too
[16:19] <jerit> Ever heard of Amaranthe? lead singer Elize Ryd is my wife... In my dreams that is
[16:20] <jerit> If all I had to stare at for 3 days was a slideshow of her mouth, I'd still be happy... Creepy as that sounds
[16:26] <Kilos> lol
[16:26] <Kilos> have you managed to ssh in yet?
[16:29] <jerit> yup
[16:29] <Kilos> great well done
[16:29] <jerit> did a sudo apt-get upgrade and now I don't know what I want to do with it
[16:29] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[16:29] <Kilos> lol
[16:30] <jerit> media server was an idea since I already know how to set up lamp stacks but its only got a 500GB HDD so maybe not viable for that
[16:30] <magespawn> okay then
[16:30] <Kilos> use sudo apt updat and sudo apt upgrade nowadays
[16:30] <magespawn> jerit proxy server?
[16:32] <jerit> magespawn: since its on the same DSL connection I'm using on my pc I don't understand what benefit a proxy would serve me
[16:36] <jerit> bearing in mind this is a server meant to operate in a rack with others so its loud which means I can't leave it on all the time
[16:38] <magespawn> probably none
[16:39] <magespawn> home web server?
[16:39] <Kilos> hahaha i also setup a server some years ago then found i didnt have a use for it either
[16:40] <jerit> I have web servers I can use
[16:40] <jerit> maybe I should get them earning money and figure out how to sell shells with them
[16:41] <jerit> x amount per month, you get a shell to do with what you like on the server
[16:47] <jerit> then again xshellz does that for free and they're probably not the only ones
[17:50] <nsnzero> good evening all
[17:54] <nsnzero> ip6 addresses are a pain to type
[18:20] <kulelu88> hey guys, anybody familiar with CSS here?
[18:24] <inetpro> tell us about your challenge kulelu88
[18:24] <inetpro> good evening everybody
[18:27] <kulelu88> good to see oom Kilos around
[18:28] <Kilos> ty kulelu88 hows things
[18:28] <kulelu88> lekker oom, how you feeling?
[18:28] <Kilos> and hi inetpro 
[18:28] <Kilos> im ok ty kulelu88 
[18:29] <inetpro> kulelu88: http://www.w3schools.com/css/
[18:30] <kulelu88> inetpro: the problems go a little deeper than linking to w3schools :)
[18:30] <nsnzero> hi guys
[18:32] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[18:33] <nsnzero> hi Kilos 
[18:33] <nsnzero> whats giving you trouble kulelu88 ?
[18:34] <kulelu88> let me create a reproducible environment
[18:34] <nsnzero> sure
[18:39] <kulelu88> nsnzero: https://jsfiddle.net/qw3w4o0m/ 
[18:43] <kulelu88> nsnzero: the CSS is a bit broken
[18:45] <nsnzero> the drop down menu not working ?
[18:45] <kulelu88> nsnzero: no, there's no dropdown. the problem is the FAQ part. I want each question to appear in a downwards list, not next to each other
[18:48] <nsnzero> in the preview the question are 1 below each other like :
[18:48] <nsnzero> Question ?
[18:49] <nsnzero> Answer comming soon 
[18:52] <inetpro> CSS way too complicated for my small brain
[18:53]  * inetpro should rather call it a day
[18:53] <kulelu88> nsnzero: can you show me a screenshot of what you see? to me, they are next to each other
[18:53] <inetpro> good night all
[18:54] <inetpro> I also got them next to each other
[18:55]  * inetpro hoping that superfly will land safely at his destination soon
[18:56] <nsnzero> kulelu88: how do i send you a sreenshot ?
[18:56] <kulelu88> nsnzero: https://unsee.cc 
[18:59] <nsnzero> kulelu88: https://unsee.cc/zaresimu/
[19:00] <kulelu88> nsnzero: aah yes, that is how it appears when you run it locally. but you see, the problem is that they are all pushed into the left margin. I want the text to spread across the entire page
[19:04] <kulelu88> nsnzero: I believe the issue may be this <div> class:     <div class="feature3">
[19:04] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:04] <nsnzero> what version of css you running ?
[19:06] <kulelu88> nsnzero: version? 
[19:08] <nsnzero> yes there version 1 to 4 
[19:13] <kulelu88> nsnzero: I am not sure, as this site was generated from launchaco
[19:16] <time2dock> Yes there are 4 css versions according to wikipedia, but wild stick with css3 in w3schools
[19:20] <nsnzero> kulelu88: display: inline-block; makes the buttons next to each other
[19:21] <nsnzero> now are the questions -buttons or paragraphs ?
[19:21] <kulelu88> nsnzero: the questions are h3 and the answers are paragraphs
[19:34] <nsnzero> doing some research kulelu88 
[19:34] <kulelu88> nsnzero: don't stress about it if the answer isn't obvious. 
[19:35] <kulelu88> don't want you doing any free labour for me :)
[19:37] <nsnzero> lol - no problem - helping is something i do
[20:17] <nsnzero> kulelu88: 6 <div> need to be removed : group the elements that you need in 1 <div>
[20:19] <nsnzero> kulelu88: and add  display:block to the paragrah definition 
[20:29] <nsnzero> kulelu88: well i have the changes saved if you need it just let me know
[20:30] <nsnzero> maaz
[20:31] <nsnzero> Maaz
[20:33] <nsnzero> even 
[20:33] <nsnzero> Maaz fell asleep !
[20:33] <Maaz> nsnzero: Excuse me?
[20:33] <nsnzero> There we go
[20:34] <nsnzero> Maaz tell kulelu88 that i found the problem in his script
[20:34] <Maaz> nsnzero: Sure, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
[20:34] <nsnzero> thanks Maaz
[20:36] <kulelu88> Maaz: tell nsnzero I will look into it, but if he can ping me with the edited jsfiddle, it'll be much appreciated
[20:36] <Maaz> kulelu88: Okay, I'll tell nsnzero on freenode
[20:36] <Maaz> kulelu88: By the way, nsnzero on freenode told me "tell kulelu88 that i found the problem in his script" 2 minutes and 4 seconds ago