[00:06] <N0Lif3> going dual-monitor in Kubuntu on my laptop is hella wonky.
[00:07] <N0Lif3> I connected my laptop to my TV via HDMI and it rightfully showed up as a secondary monitor. Then I tried to close the lid on my laptop (with it set to just turn off the screen when you do that) and it turned off the external screen as well
[00:08] <N0Lif3> so then I set it to "do nothing" when I close the lid and it finally worked as intentioned, but then the screen on my laptop stayed shut off and now it can't dual-monitor at all.
[00:08] <N0Lif3> When I plug in HDMI, the screen on my laptop turns off completely and only projects to my tv via hdmi
[00:10] <charlie__> holla
[00:10] <N0Lif3> holler
[00:11] <charlie__> I've one question...
[00:12] <charlie__> is someone using minergate
[00:29] <oceanquake> Hey all.  I just installed 14.04.5 and updated the system.  The machine has an older nvidia chipset and nouveau was showing a lot of artifacts, so I followed the standard prompts/helpers to enable the binary drivers.  Upon rebooting, I can see that the nvidia module and x server load, but opengl support is not properly working.  KInfocenter gives "Could not initialize OpenGL" and glxinfo gives "Failed request".  What should I do here to get
[00:29] <oceanquake> OpenGL working with the proprietary nvidia driver?  The OpenGL ICD and related packages appear to be installed.
[01:35] <OutOfSpace> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[01:35] <OutOfSpace> is it the graphic environment
[01:35] <OutOfSpace> KDE vs Gnome ?
[01:35] <sintre> yes kde
[02:25] <cjwelborn> I cannot make the `atari800` package, which is not installed, show up with `dpkg -l` or `dpkg -s`. I'm testing out a helper script with an uninstalled package, and for some reason `apt-cache show` will find it, but `dpkg -l atari800` won't. Even with the glob star `atari800\*`.
[02:26] <cjwelborn> How does apt, apt-cache, and any apt* command know about this package, but not `dpkg`?
[04:17] <valorie> cjwelborn: dpkg (I think) knows about what is on your own box
[04:17] <valorie> whereas apt goes looking for what else is available
[04:18] <valorie> but look at man dpkg
[04:39] <user|5481> Hy, I have an issue with kubuntu, I had an app freezing so I thought of killing that task. I pressed Alt + PrtScr + K instead of F, and that killed display server. Then I panicked and executed REISUB, now many of the app icons are missing and GUI is very glitchy. I am on 16.04.1 with all latest updates installed. Is there a way to fix the empty ico
[04:39] <user|5481> ns?
[04:42] <valorie> user|5481: you might try sudo dpkg --configure a (or -a)
[04:42] <DarinMiller> user|5481: try toggling between icon sets in the System Settings menu.
[04:43] <valorie> can't remember if you need the single dash
[04:43] <valorie> oh, that's easier
[04:43] <valorie> good thought, DarinMiller
[04:43] <DarinMiller> hi valorie :)
[04:44] <valorie> how are you this fine Solstice night
[04:44] <valorie> first day of winter here
[04:44] <DarinMiller> I am quite fine.  How are you?  Cold day in Seattle?
[04:45] <valorie> it's warmed up a bit and was sunny today!
[04:45] <valorie> I went out and raked leaves
[04:45] <valorie> you?
[04:46] <user|5481> sudo dpkg --configure -a and toggling icon sets didn't work :P
[04:46] <DarinMiller> 11degs here.  One more day of work before a 3 day weekend.
[04:46] <valorie> nice
[04:48] <DarinMiller> user|5481: try changing icons in the sys setting menu and restart plasma: killall plasmashell && plasmashell &
[04:50] <user|5481> WOW it worked!
[04:50] <user|5481> Thanks @DarinMiller
[04:50] <DarinMiller> cool.  You can change back if you want and restart plasmashell again. :)
[04:50] <sintre> darin saves day again :)
[04:51] <sintre> btw how yea ya doing tonight
[04:51] <DarinMiller> hey, sintre.  I am quite fine and you?
[04:52]  * DarinMiller is a little sleepy after last night-not planning on staying up as late tonight... one more day of work.
[04:52] <sintre> good , watching how to wrap present videos on utube lol
[04:52] <sintre> only have 5 i got wrap by hand
[04:52] <sintre> pain lol
[04:52] <sintre> gotta go by tape and evrything
[04:52] <sintre> no /sudo apt wrap presents
[04:53]  * DarinMiller let's his wife do all the painful stuff...
[04:54] <DarinMiller> LOL
[06:23] <grek> hi anyone know how i can setud hdd in android media center (have 4TB hdd) for sharing between android aps and home network - linux dekstops ,
[06:24] <grek> i install ftps serwer and cloud sync and everythink work but - files created by ftp have ftp permissions, cloud app - have own files
[06:24] <grek> android like i see have every app as user
[06:25] <grek> so files is 755 so is not writable if created in other app - i crfeate ext3 partitions format
[06:25] <grek> on this hdd
[06:31] <valorie> sorry, not really a Kubuntu issue
[07:25] <cmsadmin_> hi
[07:25] <hateball> Greetings
[09:55] <prabhakar> hey guys!
[10:05] <lordievader> o/
[10:30] <momken> Hello
[10:31] <momken> Currently I am using Kubuntu and have customized it to its full level to satisfy my needs
[10:31] <momken> But now I want to install Xfce and i3wm on the same system to compare them with KDE as my final step
[10:32] <momken> 1. How could I install a full xfce/i3wm desktop on my current Kubuntu
[10:32] <soee> !info xfce-desktop
[10:32] <momken> 2. If I install xfce, would it become my default desktop then? I don't want it to be
[10:32] <soee> https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce
[10:33] <momken> I only want to test it, but I want my login screen and my default desktop remain KDE
[10:33] <soee> it will probably add option to pick session in login manager
[10:33] <momken> ubottu: I am using 16.04
[10:34] <momken> soee: I know xfce can use "lightdm" as its login manager. I fear after installing xfce, lightdm become my login manager, which I don't want to
[10:37] <lordievader> !info i3
[10:38] <lordievader> That package adds only the option of i3 to the sddm menu.
[11:46] <yossarianuk>  hi everyone - I've just been given a macbookpro (work was throwing it out) from 2013 era (I think) - although I used to have experience of dual booting Linux and Windows about a decade ago (i stoped using windows then) what is the most current info for dual booting Mac OSX and Linux ?
[11:47] <yossarianuk> i.e can I just shrink existing mac partition and install as normal ?
[11:51] <chr1s> yossarianuk: these days there is way more advantage to running one of the OS in a VM inside the other OS
[11:52] <chr1s> I don't use Mac but I'm aware of Parallels and VMWare Fusion as possible solutions if you want to go that route
[12:06] <yossarianuk> chr1s: Well I run Linux generally, I would never ever pay for Mac, just thought I would leave OSX and dual boot so I could check it out..
[12:07] <yossarianuk> and for desktops its generally a better experience to boot from baremetal rather than a vm..
[12:08] <R13ose> How do I get my wireless to show up.  I believe this on but is not allowing me to connect to the wireless networks.
[12:09] <chr1s> fair enough though I'd disagree on the experience side if you're likely to be using more than 1 OS. I much prefer having both OS available all the time and the ability to snapshot and rollback in case of a crash
[12:10] <yossarianuk> chr1s: you can always do that with LVM/BTRFS - GPU speed is always slower - unless you use KVM and passthhrough.
[12:12] <chr1s> there's a difference between snapshoting a file system and snapshotting the state of an entire running machine, plus moving to a new machine when your old one needs to be replaced is way easier, plus backups are much easier
[12:13] <chr1s> are there still some negatives? yes like GPU that you mentioned but mostly positive in my opinion. Anyway your choice, this is a channel for Kubuntu not the merits of VMs so I'll stop there :)
[12:14] <yossarianuk> sure I do under the advantages, however personally I would argue for desktop the GPU issue is reason to avoid vms for desktops - i'm fed up reading reviews of distros when the reviewer complains about GPU issues/slowness when they are running in a VM (which they wouldn't have had the issues installing on metal)
[12:14] <yossarianuk> *undersnd*
[12:14] <yossarianuk> *understand*
[12:16] <chr1s> ultimately it depends what you want to do with your machine and as I'm not a mac user either I can't comment on dual boot but I'd guess shrinking the disk would be the way to go
[12:27] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[12:34] <ibispi> R13ose: i'm somewhat new to ubuntu and such but have you tried to go to the "Network Connections" window and clicked the "Add" button? there should be a wi-fi option
[12:35] <R13ose> ibispi: yes and it is already there
[12:35] <ibispi> hmm
[12:37] <ibispi> R13ose: try something from this page maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-troubleshooting.html
[12:37] <ibispi> (if you haven't already)
[12:40] <R13ose> ibispi: too confusing
[12:41] <ibispi> :s
[12:42] <ibispi> i don't know, really, sorry i tried to help to the best of my ability :c
[12:43] <R13ose> Thanks
[12:43] <ibispi> maybe someone else knows more about this in the chat
[12:44] <ibispi> there's one more ubuntu dedicated irc channel btw
[12:44] <ibispi> it's on freenode  #ubuntu
[12:45] <R13ose> True
[12:45] <ibispi> i mean you can ask there if you haven't
[12:46] <chr1s> R13ose: have you tried any of the steps suggested on the troubleshooting page?
[12:46] <chr1s> or not yet
[12:47] <fragensteller> Hello. Is there any way to use KDE 4 instead of KDE 5 in Kubuntu 16.04?
[12:48] <R13ose> chr1s: not yet
[12:49] <ibispi> R13ose: do you have to connect to a wireless signal right? i've never connected to it via a computer but i know that when you do this via a phone  you have to type in a password sometimes
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:50] <R13ose> ibispi: I have done that before so should connect automatically
 @fragensteller, short of compiling it all yourself, no
[12:50] <ibispi> hmm, so you've done this already on this ubuntu installation? R13ose
[12:50] <ibispi> like on this system
[12:51] <ibispi> it worked before?
[12:51] <R13ose> ibispi: yes but from where I am, wireless not working
[12:51] <ibispi> hmm weird
[12:51] <ibispi> have you tried restarting the computer? :D
[12:51] <ibispi> idk
[12:52] <R13ose> Yes
[12:52] <ibispi> ok :s
[12:55] <ibispi> i asked on freenode's #ubuntu channel about your problem maybe someone there can help
[12:55] <BluesKaj> R13ose, have you mentioned that yiur crossposting in another chat and you haven't mentioned that your using wicd instead of NM
[12:55] <chr1s> R13ose: are you sure the wifi router is working (can you connect to it with another device)?
[12:56] <R13ose> I didn't know the channels were related sorry
[12:56] <R13ose> chr1s: if I am closer I can connect
[12:56] <R13ose> I want to use NM.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> the point is you haven't given all the required info to the people here. R13ose
[12:58] <R13ose> Sorry.  I will from now on.
[12:58] <ibispi> R13ose: question from freenode:  is  the wifi is connected to the wifi AP?
[12:58] <R13ose> How do I switch from wcid to nm?
[12:59] <R13ose> ibispi: how to check?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> do what the guy in #kde told you to , that long command he posted
[13:01] <ibispi> R13ose: if iwconfig show you the SSID name, you'r connected (that's what the guy from freenode said)
[13:01] <ibispi> so type  iwconfig  in your terminal
[13:03] <R13ose> ibispi: nope not showing the wireless name
[13:03] <chr1s> R13ose, if it connects when you get closer then everything is working, the issue is that something is interfering with the signal
[13:03] <ibispi> yeah that's what i was also thinking
[13:04] <R13ose> chr1s: yet others can connect from farer away
[13:04] <ibispi> maybe it's the thing that receives the connection is not as good at it as other devices
[13:04] <ibispi> idk
[13:04] <chr1s> R13ose: different wifi cards are more or less sensitive
[13:05] <R13ose> chr1s: nothing I can do?
[13:05] <chr1s> you can try to improve the signal by working out what may be interfering, moving the access point / computer closer to each other or perhaps finding a different wifi channel that gives better reception
[13:06] <chr1s> you're unlikely to solve it with some magic from us
[13:07] <R13ose> chr1s: I know
[13:08] <ibispi> R13ose: what caused this problem to appear
[13:08] <ibispi> R13ose: like was there anything you did related to the connection that happened beforehand
[13:09] <BuddyButterfly> hi
[13:09] <R13ose> ibispi: not that I know of
[13:09] <BuddyButterfly> how will dpkg behave if purging packets that are in rc state but a later packages is installed which is using same config files?
[13:09] <ibispi> R13ose: so it just randomly stopped working one day
[13:09] <ibispi> ?
[13:10] <R13ose> From thr current location yes
[13:10] <ibispi> what do you mean from the current location? do you change the locations?
[13:10] <ibispi> because that would be the cause i guess
[13:11] <R13ose> ibispi: no change.
[13:11] <ibispi> oh ok
[13:16] <chr1s> R13ose: most likely something new in your environment (microwaves interfere badly with wifi for example but that would only be while it was actually microwaving)
[13:16] <chr1s> could be a neighbour got a new device which is interfering
[13:17] <chr1s> try to check if another wifi router is transmitting on the same channel as you
[13:18] <R13ose> chr1s: how?
[13:23] <chr1s> do a scan for access points and see what comes up and on what channel
[13:24] <chr1s> your wifi router might have a feature to do that (and it has more powerful antennas so will spot more)
[13:24] <chr1s> otherwise you can do it with your wifi card
[13:40] <R13ose> chr1s: how to do this with wifi?
[13:52] <chr1s> R13ose: use the iwlist command to scan your environment and show all wifi points and associated channel
[13:53] <chr1s> something like iwlist wlan0 scan
[13:53] <chr1s> replace wlan0 with your wifi adapter device name
[13:56] <R13ose> chr1s: no results
[14:00] <Yaiyan> Is it possible to find anywhere the level of scaling KDE's applying?
[14:01] <Yaiyan> Since whilst the settings are claiming the scaling factor is only 1, my interface is clearly being scaled much higher than that
[14:06] <chr1s> R13ose: if you can't see any other access points then it might be something else harder to track down like other transmissions, sources of water, walls, basically wifi signals are pretty weak and easily interfered with :(
[14:06] <R13ose> chr1s: I see a bunch when I am close to ap
[14:07] <Yaiyan> Since a picture is worth 1000 words: http://i.imgur.com/zL9SI36.jpg
[14:07] <Yaiyan> Opening that picture in chrome, on 100% zoom, also requires a lot of scrolling up/down to see the whole thing
[14:07] <chr1s> R13ose: are any of them on the same channel as you?
[14:08] <chr1s> or an overlapping channel
[14:09] <R13ose> chr1s: not sure of the channel I am on
[14:18] <chr1s> it'll be whatever your access point is on in the list you just got from iwlist :)
[14:20] <R13ose> chr1s: the one I want is on channel 11
[14:21] <R13ose> or 149
[14:32] <chr1s> 149?
[14:32] <R13ose> Yep
[14:34] <chr1s> using 80211ac? Don't remember how many channels it has but 149 still sounds like a lot
[14:35] <chr1s> ok so 1 possibility, do you change from using wifi b/g/n to using wifi ac recently?
[14:37] <chr1s> ac runs in 5GHz instead of b/g/n in 2.4GHz, basically it has a shorter range
[14:38] <chr1s> (technically n can run in 5GHz as well)
[14:39] <R13ose> chr1s: I know.  I don't think I changed.  Says 802.11 when I do sudo lshw -c network
[14:40] <chr1s> ok, assuming it's an interference problem, check if any of the other networks are running on an overlapping band
[14:40] <chr1s> for b/g/n that would be channels between 7 and 14
[14:41] <chr1s> I don't use 802.11ac so not sure what channels overlap there (but it should be much less)
[14:41] <R13ose> chr1s: 6, 11, 149, 6
[14:42] <chr1s> ok so 2 access points using channel 6, 1 using 11 (yours) and one on 149 (yours)?
[14:43] <R13ose> chr1s: the wireless network I want to use yes
[14:44] <chr1s> not sure I understand, all of those were yours?
[14:44] <R13ose> I am not sure what you mean
[14:44] <chr1s> you need to check all the access points you can see from your scans (you said you could see several access points when you are near your router)
[14:45] <chr1s> check that none of them are using a channel that overlaps your channels
[14:46] <R13ose> chr1s: isn't sudo iwlist scanning showing me APs?
[14:46] <chr1s> yes, exactly that. it shows all the APs that you can see
[14:46] <chr1s> so nothing overlaps
[14:46] <chr1s> sorry, i'm out of ideas other than something in your environment that we can't easily isolate / detect with your operating system
[14:48] <chr1s> for example, at home in my living room I can happily connect with my laptop to a router in the office via wifi, a machine sitting under the tv a couple of metres away from me struggles
[14:48] <R13ose> Okay, why is that?
[14:49] <R13ose> chr1s: if others can connect could be this computer
[14:49] <chr1s> usually it's good enough, it just drops a few packets but as soon as some other radio source is turned on the connection is completely lossed
[14:49] <chr1s> exactly, a combination of different network card, slightly different position in the room
[14:50] <R13ose> Okay
[14:50] <chr1s> basically wifi is a very poor networking technology because it has to complete with all of the other radio technologies that use the same band plus the band used is easily stopped by concrete, water and many other things
[14:50] <R13ose> I am rebooting
[14:50] <chr1s> maybe you can reposition the router a little bit to help it
[15:22] <R13ose> chr1s: I am up and running with wireless.  The only problem is I can't use this from my room.
[15:23] <chr1s> R13ose: good to know that you are connected
[15:23] <chr1s> shame you don't have coverage where you want it
[15:24] <chr1s> you might find that certain areas in the room have coverage and others don't (like my example with my living room) so worth trying a few spots
[15:25] <R13ose> chr1s: anyway to make laptop have stronger signal?
[15:25] <chr1s> alternatively look at an external wifi card for your machine, possibly one which will accept an antenna to help capture the signal
[15:26] <chr1s> another option is to use another router to capture the signal (their radios are stronger than wifi client cards) and have it function as a repeater or connect a cable to that
[15:26] <user|31741> Hello developers, i have a problem with kmail. In summary cannot sorting by date  https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/gU3DnijZSvqtz0y8GWv6?signature=4c4cf83e3c129fd059cdfcf614e2c8861c34e3250805bb752338ac6fe9446d0d&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0ODI0MjMzNjB9
[15:30] <R13ose> chr1s: no command I can use to increase this?
[15:35] <chr1s> R13ose: on the client side, unfortunately not
[15:35] <R13ose> chr1s: okay thanks
[15:35] <chr1s> on the access point you may be able to increase the transmit power but that depends on what it allows and the maximum legal power output wherever you are
[15:36] <chr1s> no worries
[15:38] <R13ose> chr1s: thanks.  I don't want to touch the ap
[15:39] <BluesKaj> the default chan routers usually use is ch 6 , I find using a lower or higher ,like 11 works well since most users don't bother with that setting
[15:41] <chr1s> you could try to reposition the ap or if it has external antenna you could try adjusting their position
[15:42] <chr1s> it's all very hit and miss when it comes to signal propagation
[15:42] <chr1s> good luck
[15:43] <R13ose> The mode is infrastructure, is that connect?
[15:45] <chr1s> yep
[15:46] <R13ose> I believe I am using the channel 149 instead of 11.
[15:47] <rattking> Depending on the country you are in and the laws there you may be able to adjust your wifi regulatory domain and get more transmit power out of the wifi adapter
[15:47] <R13ose> How do I switch?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> in your router firmware
[15:48] <genii> Well, you can also set txpower with iwconfig, like: sudo iwconfig eth0 txpower 30mW    if mW is omitted the strength is assumed to be dBm. But for this you also need to know what your wifi card's maximum output
[15:49] <chr1s> R13ose if you're on channel 149 then you're using the 5GHz band which has a shorter propagation. Try switching to the 2.4GHz band (your connection will be slower but you may have a more stable connection in your case)
[15:50] <chr1s> assuming of course that you have an 802.11n capable adapter
[15:51] <R13ose> chr1s: how do I do all of this?
[15:52] <chr1s> I don't know, I don't have anything that runs in the 5GHz band :) Probably just a case of ensuring you connect on channel 11 or telling your card to use a particular band?
[15:53] <R13ose> Ok
[15:53] <chr1s> hopefully someone else with some experience of dual band stuff can help
[15:59] <R13ose> I checked and that is right I have 5 and 2.4 GHz
[16:03] <chr1s> cool, hope you manage to sort it out then
[16:03] <R13ose> Thanks
[16:03] <chr1s> you're welcome
[16:04] <chr1s> at least you have a few ideas to look into
[16:06] <R13ose> chr1s: right but I am not touching ap
[16:09] <genii> R13ose: Is the machine online by wired connection right now?
[16:09] <R13ose> genii: nope
[16:10] <genii> Yes, makes it problemmatic to use a pastebin :)
[16:11] <R13ose> genii: do you want me to be on wired?
[16:13] <R13ose> genii: on wired connection now
[16:14] <R13ose> genii: what do you want me to do now?
[16:17] <genii> R13ose: What name does your wifi interface have? Previously it would be automatically wlan0 but now it could be any name
[16:18] <genii> just: ifconfig     ...should say
[16:18] <hippybear> can someone tell me where the ttf-mscorefonts-installer is in the repos? There is a typo that causes multiple people the same issue if I can find the repo I can fix it
[16:18] <R13ose> genii: wlp3s0
[16:18] <hippybear> is it just pulling from the Ubuntu repos?
[16:19] <genii> R13ose: So if you can pastebin the results of:  sudo iwlist wlp3s0 scan
[16:22] <R13ose> genii: pastebin.com/wUyRQfPK
[16:26] <genii> Is RajasKingdom your AP or some other random one in the neighbourhood?
[16:27] <genii> -78dBm is pretty bad
[16:30] <R13ose> genii: the AP I use.  There is no wireless connection to that from where I am.
[16:33] <genii> Well, this is on 2.4GHz and a non-overlapping channel ( 11). And the signal strength is still pretty horrible. Try setting on the AP the channel to 1  and then run iwlist scan again, note what the dBm is, then try also channel 6 and again scan to see once more the dBm on that channel. This way we can find at least the one with most chance of connecting
[16:33] <R13ose> genii: I do see both connections as a user and 1 of them as an admin
[16:34] <genii> Ideally want a number higher than around -50dbm, like -45 to -40 would be good
[16:34] <R13ose> genii: change AP?
[16:40] <someelf> I've got an odd problem. When I boot this kubuntu 16.04 laptop I get the kubuntu logo, and then it goes to a black screen.
[16:40] <someelf> to boot into kde I have to switch to alt+shift+1 then login and run startx
[16:40] <someelf> which works fine
[16:41] <genii> R13ose: Yes, log onto the AP and in it's interface change the channel it sends on.  First to 6, then save that, and redo the iwlist scan. Tell us the dBm number from that change. Then change the channel on the AP again to 1,save,redo scan, tell us the dBm one more time
[16:41] <someelf> I've tried reinstalling kde, and trying to install kdm, but neither of those solved the problem
[16:41] <genii> someelf: Ditch kdm and install either sddm or lightdm
[16:41] <someelf> I don't know which config file or log file I should be poking to find out where the problem is
[16:41] <someelf> ok.
[16:42] <someelf> will try that
[16:42] <genii> work, afk 7-10 minutes
[16:46] <R13ose> genii: should I change the 2.4 or 5 ghz?
[16:48] <genii> R13ose: 2.4
[16:48]  * genii wanders back to work for a bit
[16:50] <AndChat|35156> genii: no scan results for channel 6.  For channel 1, -85 dBm
[16:52] <R13ose> ^ sorry used wrong nickname before.
[16:54] <genii> R13ose: At these signal strengths, it's not very likely that a stable connection can be made :(
[16:54] <R13ose> genii: switch back to 11?
[16:56] <genii> Yep, so far it's the strongest
[16:58] <R13ose> genii: anything else can be done?
[16:59] <genii> R13ose: As far as software things, or settings on the AP, not much, unfortunately.
[17:00] <R13ose> genii: well, nuts this fails in the one place I work the most
[17:02] <R13ose> genii: thanks for help
[17:03] <genii> R13ose: If your AP aerials screw on, maybe consider a range extender
[17:03] <R13ose> Just for one computer?
[17:07] <R13ose> genii: ^
[17:12] <genii> R13ose: Something like http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/insten-insten-wi-fi-booster-antenna-205143/10556084.aspx?path=678f66080e2118ab2e03dfd487890108en02
[17:14] <genii> That particular one has a gain of 7, you might want one more in the 9 to 11 range though
[17:16] <R13ose> genii: canada?
[17:17] <genii> R13ose: I am in Canada, yes. So the BestBuy site automatically chose it's Canadian site for me.
[17:17] <R13ose> genii: I am too
[17:19] <R13ose> genii: which city?
[17:19] <genii> Toronto
[17:20] <R13ose> Me too
[17:20]  * genii slides R13ose a Maple Leafs jersey and a Timmies dark roast
[17:21] <R13ose> genii: boo.  I dislike timmies and haven't watched leafs since Rogers too over hockey coverage
[17:21] <genii> heh
[17:22] <R13ose> genii: where in Toronto?
[17:23] <genii> R13ose: For non-support talk, it's better if you come to the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
[17:24] <genii> /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:29] <renn0xtk9> I am on lates kubunt, the other day I installed "adwaita ' since then it turn out when I go in system settings> Workspace them, there is only the tab Mouse Cursor that is working. all other won't display
[17:29] <renn0xtk9> any idea what I could do ?
[17:32] <renn0xtk9> shall I force reinstall kde ?
[17:37] <genii> renn0xtk9: Probably that GNOME icon theme doesn't agree with KDE.
[17:37] <genii> Might try kde-style-qtcurve-qt4 (or kde-style-qtcurve-qt5)
[17:37] <renn0xtk9> genii that should not prevent kde from displaying it's own stuff ;)
[17:38] <renn0xtk9> hmm it says 0 new package to install
[17:38] <genii> If it's trying to use an incompatible theme from another DE to display it's own stuff....
[17:39] <renn0xtk9> Installing does not mean setting ;)  the them is Breeze with icon them oxygen
[17:40] <renn0xtk9> now I just sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop and this time I don't event get into the Workspace setting menu... so don't blame gnome ...
[17:42] <renn0xtk9> I just managed to change the them by clicking randomly.. it is purely the display that is not working... a typical kubuntu bug...
[17:42] <genii> It is odd that the cursor is not displaying, yes
[17:43] <renn0xtk9> the whole frame in the window now
[17:43] <renn0xtk9> it is not the cursor
[17:43] <renn0xtk9> it is the whole QWdiget that does not refresh...
[17:44] <genii> renn0xtk9: Just curious,, is your GPU nvidia?
[17:49] <renn0xtk9> nope
[17:49] <renn0xtk9> I have a very old 32 bit intel processor with graphics comming from the chipset
[17:51] <renn0xtk9> i try to restart maybe it will do it but I don't think so. don't see why
[19:03] <renn0xtk9> still can't get kubunt systems settings working
[19:04] <BluesKaj> which part of system settings?
[19:06] <renn0xtk9> When I clikc on Workspace theme. the whole window freezes. It does not refresh anymore
[19:06] <BluesKaj> renn0xtk9,^'
[19:07] <renn0xtk9> hm ?
[19:07] <renn0xtk9> it s only the display, because If I click randomly I see the titlebar of the window changing.
[19:09] <BluesKaj> how did you install your OS, from a an iso or upgrade from an older OS via the 'net
[19:09] <renn0xtk9> Iso upgrade
[19:09] <renn0xtk9> It did work
[19:10] <renn0xtk9> than  I installed "adwaita" because silly googl-chrome said it has it as a dependency
[19:10] <renn0xtk9> and since then ..
[19:14] <BluesKaj> adwaita is gtk theme , chrome should be able to run without it
[19:14] <renn0xtk9> That is what suprised me
[19:14] <renn0xtk9> and it was not able to run with it either ^^
[19:15] <renn0xtk9> But that should not mess up the system setttings like that,
[19:15] <renn0xtk9> it is anoying
[19:15] <BluesKaj> adwaita is a default icon theme on kubuntu
[19:16] <BluesKaj> it is gtk tho
[19:22] <renn0xtk9> what piss me the most off is that I now will have to reinstall kubuntu , because of what,   because somebody has let of  c++ pointer flying in space and did not want to run any unittest on what he/she did programm
[19:23] <BluesKaj> renn0xtk9, try sudo apt remove adwaita-icon-theme
[19:25] <renn0xtk9> BluesKaj: and then : "The following package will be REMOVED : [..] kubuntu-desktop [...]plasma-desktop[...]
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ok, then that won't work
[19:29] <renn0xtk9> maybe sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop plasma-desktop && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop plasma-destkop ?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> no
[19:30] <BluesKaj> adwaita is installed by default
[19:31] <renn0xtk9> the "system settings" stuff is it a programm /package of its own that i can reinstall? or does it has config files i can delete?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> it's insatalled on my system and i didnot choose to install it separately
[19:32] <BluesKaj> it's part of the plasma-desktop
[19:33] <BluesKaj> anyway i have to go ...sorry I couldn't help, renn0xtk9
[19:37] <renn0xtk9> no worries thks
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[20:51] <mparillo> luziferius: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/1652158