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Kilosmorning everyone04:54
Kilosoh and morning inetpro 04:54
magespaw1good morning05:02
inetproyou guys are way too early... good mornings 05:03
inetprooh and hi Kilos 05:03
inetproand Kilos, you are cheating 05:09
=== magespaw1 is now known as magespawn
Kilosin what way am i cheating inetpro 05:21
Kiloshi magespawn 05:21
Kilosmorning time2dock 05:21
Kilosah kulelu88 you still here05:24
* Kilos wonders how fly is doing05:25
nsnzeromorning everyone - may you have an awesome day06:05
Maaznsnzero: By the way, kulelu88 on freenode told me "tell nsnzero I will look into it, but if he can ping me with the edited jsfiddle, it'll be much appreciated" 9 hours, 28 minutes and 54 seconds ago06:05
kulelu88slept and woke up nsnzero :P06:08
thatgraemeguymorning06:13
kulelu88im making some oke chase me for 30 minutes :'D06:14
nsnzeromorning kulelu88 , thatgraemeguy 06:14
kulelu88morning06:16
thatgraemeguyKilos: I see on FB the fly landed06:23
thatgraemeguyroughly the same time that you asked on here actually06:24
nsnzerokulelu88: https://jsfiddle.net/#&togetherjs=VIDdsESyIw06:26
nsnzerokulelu88: i changed the code to make it easier for me to understand - but is just comestic changes06:28
kulelu88is the togetherjs thing correct?06:29
nsnzerofirst use of jsfidle06:30
kulelu88no I mean you shared a joint session06:31
nsnzeromy browser ad block , no script , image block running so things look very different for me06:31
kulelu88lol, its jsfiddle, not much harm06:32
magespawnnsnzero: that is a pretty cool site06:32
kulelu88who is wolf? :P06:32
nsnzerono idea 06:33
magespawnI see that it is run on slack06:33
magespawnmaybe me06:33
nsnzerokulelu88: its was my first attempt at css - i hope it helps06:34
kulelu88i think giraffe is nsnzero and magespawn is wolf06:36
nsnzerokulelu88: do you get this error in the preview -> {"error": "Please use POST request"}06:37
kulelu88nope, if you block js, it wont run06:37
nsnzerois that ok ? the script ?06:39
kulelu88magespawn: search for launchaco, it generates these kind of sites06:40
Kilosyay ty thatgraemeguy 06:43
magespawnty kulelu88 06:48
nsnzeromorning Kilos 06:49
nsnzerobbr - trying out some new icons06:50
kulelu88oh my word, I won hahaha07:19
kulelu88stupid guy went afk LOL07:19
magespawnback08:02
Kilosyou at work magespawn ?08:02
magespawnyup08:03
Kiloshows the family doing08:03
magespawnAll good they are now all in Klerksdorp08:12
Kilosyay thats much closer08:17
nsnzerowhat did i miss ?08:17
Kilosthe sun came up this morning08:17
Kiloswe talking about mages family08:18
nsnzerolol Kilos 08:18
magespawnback08:23
nsnzerowb magespawn 08:23
chesedomorning all08:56
chesedoMaaz: tell kulelu88 "You need to set `flex-direction` to `column` to get rows (see guide https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/)... also it will be better to use a dl for that"08:58
Maazchesedo: Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode08:58
Kiloshi chesedo 08:59
nsnzerowhats a good rss feed for linux ?09:05
chesedonsnzero: I just use feedly.com although have not been on it for some time09:18
nsnzeroi will try that - thanks chesedo 09:21
jeritwhy are you okes up so early!?10:49
jeritDo you hate sleep or something?10:49
jeritI've decided I'm gonna use my server as a backup server then I can maybe clear off my pc a bit10:50
* chesedo uses the home server for backups, downloads management, quassel-core and still has to add media and proxy server stuff rather than having it idle the whole time10:53
jeritSo now the question is do I simply install an ftp server on it that I can use to transfer files between it and my pc or do I set it up as a file/media server10:53
jeritI can't have this idle all the time. It's too loud10:54
chesedojerit: give it some grease then :P10:54
jeritlol its a blade server out of some data center somewhere10:54
chesedomine is business PC (from 2009) that a company sold off when they got new stock... super quite except when one of the fans are acting up10:56
magespawndepends what you think of as sleep11:01
jeritany suggestions for software I ought to install to get the thing working as a file server?11:01
chesedojerit: what OS will the clients run?11:01
jeritwindows11:05
chesedojerit: samba will be your only option then afaik11:07
chesedothat is seamless that is11:07
jeritmagespawn: by sleep I mean that weird part of the 24 hour period when we go to bed and lie there comatose for several hours11:22
magespawni try to avoid that, always feels like a waste of time11:23
Kilosai! its actually quite lekker to sleep12:01
Kilosespecially when tired12:02
chesedoKilos: +112:14
superflyGood morning 13:40
Maazsuperfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly Go safe our good friend" 2 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes and 19 seconds ago13:40
Maazsuperfly: By the way, Langjan on freenode told me "tell superfly from me also" 2 days, 5 hours, 54 minutes and 25 seconds ago13:40
chesedohi superfly, how goes?13:43
LangjanHello all15:13
Kiloshi Langjan 15:25
Kiloswbb inna bit15:26
LangjanHow are you keeping Kilos?  15:30
LangjanSpent the day enjoying Bushveld game and bird viewing  15:31
Kiloslekker15:34
Kilosim very tired today for some stupid reason15:34
LangjanHow was your day?15:34
Kilosslept all avy15:34
Langjanai15:34
Langjanfeeling better now?15:34
Kilosyes ty15:35
Langjangood15:35
Langjanjust a quickie about file managers plse15:35
Kilosoh my15:36
Kiloswhat about it15:36
Langjannot your forte?15:36
Kilosnope but lets hear one of the guys will see15:36
Langjansince upgrade file mgr does not show menu options that I was used to in top bar, only shows "files" 15:37
LangjanI used to be able to pick view sizes etc 15:37
Kilosoh my15:37
Langjanfile manager is files 3.20.315:38
Kiloswas it a good upgrade15:38
Langjanwell it went ok I think, how will I know?15:38
Kilosrun sudo apt update $$ sudo apt upgrade and see what it says15:38
Kilosnono15:38
Kilos&&15:38
Kilossudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade15:39
Kilosbit dark in here cant see keys lekker sorry15:39
Langjanno prob'15:40
LangjanJust some autoremoves to be done15:41
Kilossjoe15:41
Langjanall done no problems15:41
Kilosopen and close file manager and see15:41
Kiloswhats it called15:41
Langjanfiles 3.20.315:42
Kilosthis one is dolphin15:42
LangjanIf I quit it how do I open it again?15:42
Kilosclick on a file15:42
Langjanok15:42
Kilosdouble click on unity15:42
Kiloskde does 1 click option15:43
Kilosvery lekker15:43
LangjanI also have single click option15:43
Langjandouble click on unity? 15:43
Kilosi prefer it15:43
Kilosi thought you had to double click15:44
Kilosi remember very little of unity15:44
chesedoLangjan: did you upgrade from a 14.04 to 16.04?15:44
LangjanHi chesedo, yes 15:44
Kiloswhat15:44
Kilosi thought you been on 16.04 for weeks15:45
LangjanYes you and I discussed it and then I upgraded, a week or two ago15:45
Kilosok15:46
chesedoit sounds like you are then using the new overhauled file manager from gnome - they are trying to be minimal and have removed/moved a lot of stuff15:46
Kilosso last upgrade was within 16.0415:46
Langjanoh ok chesedo makes sense15:46
Kilosmaybe you can try nemo15:47
* chesedo thought by upgrade that Langjan meant release upgrade and not system upgrade15:47
Langjanwell Kilos  I'm not sure if the file mgr prob came with the main ugrade or later15:47
chesedoLangjan: which feature are you looking for?15:47
Langjanchesedo,  for example if I view a list of pictures I want to be able to enlarge the thumbnails  15:48
Langjanfrom the top menu15:49
chesedoIt's under view -> Zoom In15:49
chesedoor use <ctrl> + mouse wheel15:50
chesedoor <ctrl> + "plus/minus key"15:50
LangjanThats the point, I dont get a "view" option any more15:50
chesedoLangjan: is it maximized atm?15:50
LangjanSorry you lost me chesedo  15:51
chesedobtw, those shortcuts work in most app...15:51
LangjanIf I go to file manager the only option is "files" - I used to have a number of options, eg "view" 15:52
chesedofrom the close button, move two buttons to the right to maximize/unmaximze it15:52
chesedos/move/click/15:53
Langjanmaximised or not, no options show. They used to be activated by mouse cursor 15:54
Kilosai!15:54
Langjannow cursor only brings up "files"15:54
chesedoLangjan: out of interest have you tried a restart?15:54
Kilosthings progress backwards for old peeps15:54
Langjanyes a number of times chesedo 15:55
Langjanfew of us are getting younger15:55
chesedook, I though that an app might have frozen the panel...15:55
Langjanno15:55
Langjanpanel activates fine but only shows the one option, files15:56
* chesedo likes to regard himself amongst those few... until he makes shocking discoveries like grey hair15:56
Kilossee if you find anything relevant here Langjan https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/nautilus-preview.html15:58
LangjanMaybe I should install Nautilus?15:58
Kilosor if you arent happy try an alternative file manager15:58
Kilosisnt nautilus alreadt there?15:58
Langjanno15:58
Kilosai!15:58
chesedothat is nautilus afaik15:59
Kiloswhat are they doing15:59
chesedoLangjan: in the terminal type nautilus and see what opens15:59
chesedoalso test its menu15:59
Kilosand maybe it has preferences you can set16:00
Langjan(nautilus:22925): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_interface_skeleton_unexport: assertion 'interface_->priv->connections != NULL' failed16:01
chesedoI meant the gui not terminal output16:01
Kilosreinstall it and see16:01
Kilosuse aptitude16:01
* chesedo goes to eat wbb16:01
Kilosenjoy chesedo 16:01
chesedohttp://askubuntu.com/questions/762137/applications-menu-missing-from-menu-bar16:02
Kiloshmm...16:16
Kiloswhat happened16:16
Langjanrebooted16:17
Kilosis it working?16:17
Langjanwhen I enter nautilus I get files so I suppose thats it16:17
Langjanbut no not working right16:17
Kilosyes16:17
Kilosai!16:17
LangjanI have re-installed via synaptic then uptae && upgrade and reboot16:18
Kiloshttps://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/nautilus-prefs.html16:18
Langjanai!16:18
Kilosif it doesnt come right read up on nemo file manager for 16.0416:19
Kiloshorrible when things change after an upgrade16:19
Kilosmakes life hard for ballies16:19
Kilosi found a great file search tool16:19
Kiloscalled angrysearch16:19
Kilosshows everything16:20
LangjanIve been to that link thks but those options dont help  16:20
Kilosai!16:20
Kiloswhy you keep breaking things16:20
Kilosoh its unity not you16:20
Kiloswhats news on the graphics card16:21
Kilosthat card is most likely over 1k new16:21
Kilosor even more16:21
LangjanHave you read where Solomon talks about a woman who is like a dripping faucet? 16:21
Langjanlmga16:21
Kiloshahaha16:21
Kiloswhere that came from16:22
Kilosohi superfly you settling in my friend16:22
Kilos?16:22
Langjanno news on graphics yet16:23
Kilosget that ones make and model and price it16:24
Kilosim sure you will fall on your back16:24
Kilosbest place to look for good grphics cards is from gamers16:24
Kilosthey forever want something better16:24
LangjanI'm in no rush16:25
LangjanI think my first step is to see if I can switch those hard drives, maybe the prob will be sorted if 14.04 runs on this machine and mine goes to the newer motherboard 16:27
Kiloswhat are your specs on this one?16:28
Kiloslike cpu speed and cores and amount of ram16:29
LangjanBut we have the grandchildren here, taking them to Pretoria tomorrow, will check on you on and off, have a lovely Chritmas if we dont chat before then16:29
chesedoLangjan: can you hover your mouse over the menu bar, then press print screen on keyboard, the "copy to clipboard" and then paste here http://pasteboard.co/ using <ctrl> + v16:29
Kilosty oom you enjoy them16:29
Kilosand keep safe16:29
Langjanmine is 4GB ram the other is 816:29
Kilosdo that quick for chesedo 16:29
Kiloshe will sort something16:30
Kilosyoung chesedo is very clever16:30
LangjanCurrent Asus mboard PK5PL-AM SE, bios 0602. CPU is Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz with 4 Gb RAM and 120 GB SSD. Other is Fujitsu Esprimo E5731 with a Pentium Dual Core CPU E5 700 @ 3,00 GHz and 8 GB RAM. 16:33
LangjanOK chat later Kilos go well and look after yourself16:34
Kilosgo well Langjan 16:34
Langjanthks16:34
Kiloshe gets all the weird problems16:35
superflyKilos: it's 9:52 in the morning right now, I got home at 9:00pm last night 16:53
Kiloswhew, family ok superfly ?16:54
Kiloshappy to see you16:54
magespawnchat later18:06
superflyKilos: everyone is fine, thanks. Family is very happy to see me. 18:21
Kilostime2dock you here?19:01
thatgraemeguyhi fly19:01
time2dockhi19:01
nsnzerohi guys19:01
=== Kilos is now known as Kiloswould
Kiloswouldai!19:02
=== Kiloswould is now known as Kilos
Kilostime2dock would you like to become an official ubuntu-za member19:02
Kiloshttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za19:03
nsnzerohi kilos19:05
Kiloshi nsnzero 19:06
inetprogood evening19:24
inetprohi superfly19:24
inetpronice to see you back here again19:24
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:00
paddatrapperTelkom... Why do you choose now... 20:01
LangjanHi chesedo just thought I will drop you a line to say I reinstalled and activated Nautilus, problem solved. Many thanks for your help. Sleep weel. 20:07
Langjanwell20:07
superflyhi thatgraemeguy, inetpro, paddatrapper20:08
paddatrapperHey superfly. You escaped just in time. Internet is now out 20:08
Langjanhi superfly how did your trip go, everything ok that side?20:08
superflypaddatrapper: and I have such nice internet here... 11.4 MB/s download :-D20:09
superflyhi Langjan, trip went OK, everything is fine.20:09
tumbleweedsuperfly: are you stuck with one of the big shitty ISPs?20:10
* tumbleweed has comcast. It's fast enough, usually. And has IPv6. But urgh.20:11
LangjanGood. Lekker to see you here...20:11
superflytumbleweed: I believe we're on Comcast too20:12
superflyNo, wait. We're on Cox.net20:12
superflytumbleweed: compared to South Africa, it's glorious ;-)20:12
tumbleweed:)20:13
tumbleweedoh, I also have to buy cable TV service, enough though I don't have a TV (to get the higher speeds)20:13
paddatrappersuperfly: only a meg faster than us :p20:26
superflypaddatrapper: Mega BYTES20:31
paddatrappersuperfly: ok I stand corrected 20:46
kulelu88chesedo: flex-direction to rows?21:25
kulelu88*columns21:25
superflyhi kulelu8821:29
kulelu88hey superfly . you landed safely? 21:29
kulelu88hows the family?21:29
superflyYup. They're good.21:29
kulelu88great to hear :) 21:29
superflyit's 14:30 here now :-)21:29
kulelu88hows the weather in the desert?21:32
superflyrainy at the moment21:39
kulelu88Is it always warm there?21:39
superflyNo, in winter it does get cold, but not as bad as further north21:40
superflyI have a t-shirt on at the moment21:40
kulelu88How long was the flight?21:41
superflyWhich one? There were 321:43
superflyThe shortest one was just under 4 hours, and the longest one was 15 hours21:44
kulelu88ZA - Qatar, Qatar - London, London - Houston ?21:44
superflyCape Town -> Doha -> Chicago -> Tucson21:45
kulelu88Logically, flying via Doha makes no sense (going backwards), but if the flight was cheaper, why not21:45
superflyMUCH21:46
kulelu88(not illogical on your flight-choice, but illogical for airlines to do that)21:46
superflyIt's because it was Qatar Airways21:46
kulelu88I don't think BA does that for ZA - Hong Kong (it is direct), but Emirates/Qatar/Etihad isn't21:47
kulelu88you taking a break now or back to coding? superfly 22:02
superflykulelu88: I'm just chilling with the family22:07
kulelu88superfly: do you know how to style an <a> element (and create a nav link) without the underline of the link appearing?22:34
confluencykulelu88: text-decoration: none22:45
kulelu88confluency: thank you sir, that worked22:47
confluencyI'm a ma'am, but no problem. ;)22:47
kulelu88heh, so there's 2 ladies here. good to know. you a german? confluency 22:49
confluencyNo, I'm Polish. Geographically close enough. :P22:49
kulelu88Guten nagte ?22:50
confluencyFor all you know, we are all ladies wearing fake internet moustaches.22:50
confluencyDobranoc.22:50
kulelu88that's not the rule of the internet22:51
confluencyThat rule of the internet belongs to 1996, and it was already incorrect in 1996.22:51
kulelu88rule 29: 29. On the internet, all girls are men, and all kids are undercover FBI agents or Justice Decoys. 22:52
kulelu88have you been on the internet since 96? confluency :D22:57
kulelu88brb22:57

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