[04:54] morning everyone [04:54] oh and morning inetpro [05:02] good morning [05:03] you guys are way too early... good mornings [05:03] oh and hi Kilos [05:09] and Kilos, you are cheating === magespaw1 is now known as magespawn [05:21] in what way am i cheating inetpro [05:21] hi magespawn [05:21] morning time2dock [05:24] ah kulelu88 you still here [05:25] * Kilos wonders how fly is doing [06:05] morning everyone - may you have an awesome day [06:05] nsnzero: By the way, kulelu88 on freenode told me "tell nsnzero I will look into it, but if he can ping me with the edited jsfiddle, it'll be much appreciated" 9 hours, 28 minutes and 54 seconds ago [06:08] slept and woke up nsnzero :P [06:13] morning [06:14] im making some oke chase me for 30 minutes :'D [06:14] morning kulelu88 , thatgraemeguy [06:16] morning [06:23] Kilos: I see on FB the fly landed [06:24] roughly the same time that you asked on here actually [06:26] kulelu88: https://jsfiddle.net/#&togetherjs=VIDdsESyIw [06:28] kulelu88: i changed the code to make it easier for me to understand - but is just comestic changes [06:29] is the togetherjs thing correct? [06:30] first use of jsfidle [06:31] no I mean you shared a joint session [06:31] my browser ad block , no script , image block running so things look very different for me [06:32] lol, its jsfiddle, not much harm [06:32] nsnzero: that is a pretty cool site [06:32] who is wolf? :P [06:33] no idea [06:33] I see that it is run on slack [06:33] maybe me [06:34] kulelu88: its was my first attempt at css - i hope it helps [06:36] i think giraffe is nsnzero and magespawn is wolf [06:37] kulelu88: do you get this error in the preview -> {"error": "Please use POST request"} [06:37] nope, if you block js, it wont run [06:39] is that ok ? the script ? [06:40] magespawn: search for launchaco, it generates these kind of sites [06:43] yay ty thatgraemeguy [06:48] ty kulelu88 [06:49] morning Kilos [06:50] bbr - trying out some new icons [07:19] oh my word, I won hahaha [07:19] stupid guy went afk LOL [08:02] back [08:02] you at work magespawn ? [08:03] yup [08:03] hows the family doing [08:12] All good they are now all in Klerksdorp [08:17] yay thats much closer [08:17] what did i miss ? [08:17] the sun came up this morning [08:18] we talking about mages family [08:18] lol Kilos [08:23] back [08:23] wb magespawn [08:56] morning all [08:58] Maaz: tell kulelu88 "You need to set `flex-direction` to `column` to get rows (see guide https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/)... also it will be better to use a dl for that" [08:58] chesedo: Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode [08:59] hi chesedo [09:05] whats a good rss feed for linux ? [09:18] nsnzero: I just use feedly.com although have not been on it for some time [09:21] i will try that - thanks chesedo [10:49] why are you okes up so early!? [10:49] Do you hate sleep or something? [10:50] I've decided I'm gonna use my server as a backup server then I can maybe clear off my pc a bit [10:53] * chesedo uses the home server for backups, downloads management, quassel-core and still has to add media and proxy server stuff rather than having it idle the whole time [10:53] So now the question is do I simply install an ftp server on it that I can use to transfer files between it and my pc or do I set it up as a file/media server [10:54] I can't have this idle all the time. It's too loud [10:54] jerit: give it some grease then :P [10:54] lol its a blade server out of some data center somewhere [10:56] mine is business PC (from 2009) that a company sold off when they got new stock... super quite except when one of the fans are acting up [11:01] depends what you think of as sleep [11:01] any suggestions for software I ought to install to get the thing working as a file server? [11:01] jerit: what OS will the clients run? [11:05] windows [11:07] jerit: samba will be your only option then afaik [11:07] that is seamless that is [11:22] magespawn: by sleep I mean that weird part of the 24 hour period when we go to bed and lie there comatose for several hours [11:23] i try to avoid that, always feels like a waste of time [12:01] ai! its actually quite lekker to sleep [12:02] especially when tired [12:14] Kilos: +1 [13:40] Good morning [13:40] superfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly Go safe our good friend" 2 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes and 19 seconds ago [13:40] superfly: By the way, Langjan on freenode told me "tell superfly from me also" 2 days, 5 hours, 54 minutes and 25 seconds ago [13:43] hi superfly, how goes? [15:13] Hello all [15:25] hi Langjan [15:26] wbb inna bit [15:30] How are you keeping Kilos? [15:31] Spent the day enjoying Bushveld game and bird viewing [15:34] lekker [15:34] im very tired today for some stupid reason [15:34] How was your day? [15:34] slept all avy [15:34] ai [15:34] feeling better now? [15:35] yes ty [15:35] good [15:35] just a quickie about file managers plse [15:36] oh my [15:36] what about it [15:36] not your forte? [15:36] nope but lets hear one of the guys will see [15:37] since upgrade file mgr does not show menu options that I was used to in top bar, only shows "files" [15:37] I used to be able to pick view sizes etc [15:37] oh my [15:38] file manager is files 3.20.3 [15:38] was it a good upgrade [15:38] well it went ok I think, how will I know? [15:38] run sudo apt update $$ sudo apt upgrade and see what it says [15:38] nono [15:38] && [15:39] sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade [15:39] bit dark in here cant see keys lekker sorry [15:40] no prob' [15:41] Just some autoremoves to be done [15:41] sjoe [15:41] all done no problems [15:41] open and close file manager and see [15:41] whats it called [15:42] files 3.20.3 [15:42] this one is dolphin [15:42] If I quit it how do I open it again? [15:42] click on a file [15:42] ok [15:42] double click on unity [15:43] kde does 1 click option [15:43] very lekker [15:43] I also have single click option [15:43] double click on unity? [15:43] i prefer it [15:44] i thought you had to double click [15:44] i remember very little of unity [15:44] Langjan: did you upgrade from a 14.04 to 16.04? [15:44] Hi chesedo, yes [15:44] what [15:45] i thought you been on 16.04 for weeks [15:45] Yes you and I discussed it and then I upgraded, a week or two ago [15:46] ok [15:46] it sounds like you are then using the new overhauled file manager from gnome - they are trying to be minimal and have removed/moved a lot of stuff [15:46] so last upgrade was within 16.04 [15:46] oh ok chesedo makes sense [15:47] maybe you can try nemo [15:47] * chesedo thought by upgrade that Langjan meant release upgrade and not system upgrade [15:47] well Kilos I'm not sure if the file mgr prob came with the main ugrade or later [15:47] Langjan: which feature are you looking for? [15:48] chesedo, for example if I view a list of pictures I want to be able to enlarge the thumbnails [15:49] from the top menu [15:49] It's under view -> Zoom In [15:50] or use + mouse wheel [15:50] or + "plus/minus key" [15:50] Thats the point, I dont get a "view" option any more [15:50] Langjan: is it maximized atm? [15:51] Sorry you lost me chesedo [15:51] btw, those shortcuts work in most app... [15:52] If I go to file manager the only option is "files" - I used to have a number of options, eg "view" [15:52] from the close button, move two buttons to the right to maximize/unmaximze it [15:53] s/move/click/ [15:54] maximised or not, no options show. They used to be activated by mouse cursor [15:54] ai! [15:54] now cursor only brings up "files" [15:54] Langjan: out of interest have you tried a restart? [15:54] things progress backwards for old peeps [15:55] yes a number of times chesedo [15:55] few of us are getting younger [15:55] ok, I though that an app might have frozen the panel... [15:55] no [15:56] panel activates fine but only shows the one option, files [15:56] * chesedo likes to regard himself amongst those few... until he makes shocking discoveries like grey hair [15:58] see if you find anything relevant here Langjan https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/nautilus-preview.html [15:58] Maybe I should install Nautilus? [15:58] or if you arent happy try an alternative file manager [15:58] isnt nautilus alreadt there? [15:58] no [15:58] ai! [15:59] that is nautilus afaik [15:59] what are they doing [15:59] Langjan: in the terminal type nautilus and see what opens [15:59] also test its menu [16:00] and maybe it has preferences you can set [16:01] (nautilus:22925): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_interface_skeleton_unexport: assertion 'interface_->priv->connections != NULL' failed [16:01] I meant the gui not terminal output [16:01] reinstall it and see [16:01] use aptitude [16:01] * chesedo goes to eat wbb [16:01] enjoy chesedo [16:02] http://askubuntu.com/questions/762137/applications-menu-missing-from-menu-bar [16:16] hmm... [16:16] what happened [16:17] rebooted [16:17] is it working? [16:17] when I enter nautilus I get files so I suppose thats it [16:17] but no not working right [16:17] yes [16:17] ai! [16:18] I have re-installed via synaptic then uptae && upgrade and reboot [16:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/nautilus-prefs.html [16:18] ai! [16:19] if it doesnt come right read up on nemo file manager for 16.04 [16:19] horrible when things change after an upgrade [16:19] makes life hard for ballies [16:19] i found a great file search tool [16:19] called angrysearch [16:20] shows everything [16:20] Ive been to that link thks but those options dont help [16:20] ai! [16:20] why you keep breaking things [16:20] oh its unity not you [16:21] whats news on the graphics card [16:21] that card is most likely over 1k new [16:21] or even more [16:21] Have you read where Solomon talks about a woman who is like a dripping faucet? [16:21] lmga [16:21] hahaha [16:22] where that came from [16:22] ohi superfly you settling in my friend [16:22] ? [16:23] no news on graphics yet [16:24] get that ones make and model and price it [16:24] im sure you will fall on your back [16:24] best place to look for good grphics cards is from gamers [16:24] they forever want something better [16:25] I'm in no rush [16:27] I think my first step is to see if I can switch those hard drives, maybe the prob will be sorted if 14.04 runs on this machine and mine goes to the newer motherboard [16:28] what are your specs on this one? [16:29] like cpu speed and cores and amount of ram [16:29] But we have the grandchildren here, taking them to Pretoria tomorrow, will check on you on and off, have a lovely Chritmas if we dont chat before then [16:29] Langjan: can you hover your mouse over the menu bar, then press print screen on keyboard, the "copy to clipboard" and then paste here http://pasteboard.co/ using + v [16:29] ty oom you enjoy them [16:29] and keep safe [16:29] mine is 4GB ram the other is 8 [16:29] do that quick for chesedo [16:30] he will sort something [16:30] young chesedo is very clever [16:33] Current Asus mboard PK5PL-AM SE, bios 0602. CPU is Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz with 4 Gb RAM and 120 GB SSD. Other is Fujitsu Esprimo E5731 with a Pentium Dual Core CPU E5 700 @ 3,00 GHz and 8 GB RAM. [16:34] OK chat later Kilos go well and look after yourself [16:34] go well Langjan [16:34] thks [16:35] he gets all the weird problems [16:53] Kilos: it's 9:52 in the morning right now, I got home at 9:00pm last night [16:54] whew, family ok superfly ? [16:54] happy to see you [18:06] chat later [18:21] Kilos: everyone is fine, thanks. Family is very happy to see me. [19:01] time2dock you here? [19:01] hi fly [19:01] hi [19:01] hi guys === Kilos is now known as Kiloswould [19:02] ai! === Kiloswould is now known as Kilos [19:02] time2dock would you like to become an official ubuntu-za member [19:03] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [19:05] hi kilos [19:06] hi nsnzero [19:24] good evening [19:24] hi superfly [19:24] nice to see you back here again [20:00] night all. sleep tight [20:01] Telkom... Why do you choose now... [20:07] Hi chesedo just thought I will drop you a line to say I reinstalled and activated Nautilus, problem solved. Many thanks for your help. Sleep weel. [20:07] well [20:08] hi thatgraemeguy, inetpro, paddatrapper [20:08] Hey superfly. You escaped just in time. Internet is now out [20:08] hi superfly how did your trip go, everything ok that side? [20:09] paddatrapper: and I have such nice internet here... 11.4 MB/s download :-D [20:09] hi Langjan, trip went OK, everything is fine. [20:10] superfly: are you stuck with one of the big shitty ISPs? [20:11] * tumbleweed has comcast. It's fast enough, usually. And has IPv6. But urgh. [20:11] Good. Lekker to see you here... [20:12] tumbleweed: I believe we're on Comcast too [20:12] No, wait. We're on Cox.net [20:12] tumbleweed: compared to South Africa, it's glorious ;-) [20:13] :) [20:13] oh, I also have to buy cable TV service, enough though I don't have a TV (to get the higher speeds) [20:26] superfly: only a meg faster than us :p [20:31] paddatrapper: Mega BYTES [20:46] superfly: ok I stand corrected [21:25] chesedo: flex-direction to rows? [21:25] *columns [21:29] hi kulelu88 [21:29] hey superfly . you landed safely? [21:29] hows the family? [21:29] Yup. They're good. [21:29] great to hear :) [21:29] it's 14:30 here now :-) [21:32] hows the weather in the desert? [21:39] rainy at the moment [21:39] Is it always warm there? [21:40] No, in winter it does get cold, but not as bad as further north [21:40] I have a t-shirt on at the moment [21:41] How long was the flight? [21:43] Which one? There were 3 [21:44] The shortest one was just under 4 hours, and the longest one was 15 hours [21:44] ZA - Qatar, Qatar - London, London - Houston ? [21:45] Cape Town -> Doha -> Chicago -> Tucson [21:45] Logically, flying via Doha makes no sense (going backwards), but if the flight was cheaper, why not [21:46] MUCH [21:46] (not illogical on your flight-choice, but illogical for airlines to do that) [21:46] It's because it was Qatar Airways [21:47] I don't think BA does that for ZA - Hong Kong (it is direct), but Emirates/Qatar/Etihad isn't [22:02] you taking a break now or back to coding? superfly [22:07] kulelu88: I'm just chilling with the family [22:34] superfly: do you know how to style an element (and create a nav link) without the underline of the link appearing? [22:45] kulelu88: text-decoration: none [22:47] confluency: thank you sir, that worked [22:47] I'm a ma'am, but no problem. ;) [22:49] heh, so there's 2 ladies here. good to know. you a german? confluency [22:49] No, I'm Polish. Geographically close enough. :P [22:50] Guten nagte ? [22:50] For all you know, we are all ladies wearing fake internet moustaches. [22:50] Dobranoc. [22:51] that's not the rule of the internet [22:51] That rule of the internet belongs to 1996, and it was already incorrect in 1996. [22:52] rule 29: 29. On the internet, all girls are men, and all kids are undercover FBI agents or Justice Decoys. [22:57] have you been on the internet since 96? confluency :D [22:57] brb