[04:54] <Kilos> morning everyone
[04:54] <Kilos> oh and morning inetpro 
[05:02] <magespaw1> good morning
[05:03] <inetpro> you guys are way too early... good mornings 
[05:03] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos 
[05:09] <inetpro> and Kilos, you are cheating 
[05:21] <Kilos> in what way am i cheating inetpro 
[05:21] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[05:21] <Kilos> morning time2dock 
[05:24] <Kilos> ah kulelu88 you still here
[05:25]  * Kilos wonders how fly is doing
[06:05] <nsnzero> morning everyone - may you have an awesome day
[06:05] <Maaz> nsnzero: By the way, kulelu88 on freenode told me "tell nsnzero I will look into it, but if he can ping me with the edited jsfiddle, it'll be much appreciated" 9 hours, 28 minutes and 54 seconds ago
[06:08] <kulelu88> slept and woke up nsnzero :P
[06:13] <thatgraemeguy> morning
[06:14] <kulelu88> im making some oke chase me for 30 minutes :'D
[06:14] <nsnzero> morning kulelu88 , thatgraemeguy 
[06:16] <kulelu88> morning
[06:23] <thatgraemeguy> Kilos: I see on FB the fly landed
[06:24] <thatgraemeguy> roughly the same time that you asked on here actually
[06:26] <nsnzero> kulelu88: https://jsfiddle.net/#&togetherjs=VIDdsESyIw
[06:28] <nsnzero> kulelu88: i changed the code to make it easier for me to understand - but is just comestic changes
[06:29] <kulelu88> is the togetherjs thing correct?
[06:30] <nsnzero> first use of jsfidle
[06:31] <kulelu88> no I mean you shared a joint session
[06:31] <nsnzero> my browser ad block , no script , image block running so things look very different for me
[06:32] <kulelu88> lol, its jsfiddle, not much harm
[06:32] <magespawn> nsnzero: that is a pretty cool site
[06:32] <kulelu88> who is wolf? :P
[06:33] <nsnzero> no idea 
[06:33] <magespawn> I see that it is run on slack
[06:33] <magespawn> maybe me
[06:34] <nsnzero> kulelu88: its was my first attempt at css - i hope it helps
[06:36] <kulelu88> i think giraffe is nsnzero and magespawn is wolf
[06:37] <nsnzero> kulelu88: do you get this error in the preview -> {"error": "Please use POST request"}
[06:37] <kulelu88> nope, if you block js, it wont run
[06:39] <nsnzero> is that ok ? the script ?
[06:40] <kulelu88> magespawn: search for launchaco, it generates these kind of sites
[06:43] <Kilos> yay ty thatgraemeguy 
[06:48] <magespawn> ty kulelu88 
[06:49] <nsnzero> morning Kilos 
[06:50] <nsnzero> bbr - trying out some new icons
[07:19] <kulelu88> oh my word, I won hahaha
[07:19] <kulelu88> stupid guy went afk LOL
[08:02] <magespawn> back
[08:02] <Kilos> you at work magespawn ?
[08:03] <magespawn> yup
[08:03] <Kilos> hows the family doing
[08:12] <magespawn> All good they are now all in Klerksdorp
[08:17] <Kilos> yay thats much closer
[08:17] <nsnzero> what did i miss ?
[08:17] <Kilos> the sun came up this morning
[08:18] <Kilos> we talking about mages family
[08:18] <nsnzero> lol Kilos 
[08:23] <magespawn> back
[08:23] <nsnzero> wb magespawn 
[08:56] <chesedo> morning all
[08:58] <chesedo> Maaz: tell kulelu88 "You need to set `flex-direction` to `column` to get rows (see guide https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/)... also it will be better to use a dl for that"
[08:58] <Maaz> chesedo: Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
[08:59] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[09:05] <nsnzero> whats a good rss feed for linux ?
[09:18] <chesedo> nsnzero: I just use feedly.com although have not been on it for some time
[09:21] <nsnzero> i will try that - thanks chesedo 
[10:49] <jerit> why are you okes up so early!?
[10:49] <jerit> Do you hate sleep or something?
[10:50] <jerit> I've decided I'm gonna use my server as a backup server then I can maybe clear off my pc a bit
[10:53]  * chesedo uses the home server for backups, downloads management, quassel-core and still has to add media and proxy server stuff rather than having it idle the whole time
[10:53] <jerit> So now the question is do I simply install an ftp server on it that I can use to transfer files between it and my pc or do I set it up as a file/media server
[10:54] <jerit> I can't have this idle all the time. It's too loud
[10:54] <chesedo> jerit: give it some grease then :P
[10:54] <jerit> lol its a blade server out of some data center somewhere
[10:56] <chesedo> mine is business PC (from 2009) that a company sold off when they got new stock... super quite except when one of the fans are acting up
[11:01] <magespawn> depends what you think of as sleep
[11:01] <jerit> any suggestions for software I ought to install to get the thing working as a file server?
[11:01] <chesedo> jerit: what OS will the clients run?
[11:05] <jerit> windows
[11:07] <chesedo> jerit: samba will be your only option then afaik
[11:07] <chesedo> that is seamless that is
[11:22] <jerit> magespawn: by sleep I mean that weird part of the 24 hour period when we go to bed and lie there comatose for several hours
[11:23] <magespawn> i try to avoid that, always feels like a waste of time
[12:01] <Kilos> ai! its actually quite lekker to sleep
[12:02] <Kilos> especially when tired
[12:14] <chesedo> Kilos: +1
[13:40] <superfly> Good morning 
[13:40] <Maaz> superfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly Go safe our good friend" 2 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes and 19 seconds ago
[13:40] <Maaz> superfly: By the way, Langjan on freenode told me "tell superfly from me also" 2 days, 5 hours, 54 minutes and 25 seconds ago
[13:43] <chesedo> hi superfly, how goes?
[15:13] <Langjan> Hello all
[15:25] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[15:26] <Kilos> wbb inna bit
[15:30] <Langjan> How are you keeping Kilos?  
[15:31] <Langjan> Spent the day enjoying Bushveld game and bird viewing  
[15:34] <Kilos> lekker
[15:34] <Kilos> im very tired today for some stupid reason
[15:34] <Langjan> How was your day?
[15:34] <Kilos> slept all avy
[15:34] <Langjan> ai
[15:34] <Langjan> feeling better now?
[15:35] <Kilos> yes ty
[15:35] <Langjan> good
[15:35] <Langjan> just a quickie about file managers plse
[15:36] <Kilos> oh my
[15:36] <Kilos> what about it
[15:36] <Langjan> not your forte?
[15:36] <Kilos> nope but lets hear one of the guys will see
[15:37] <Langjan> since upgrade file mgr does not show menu options that I was used to in top bar, only shows "files" 
[15:37] <Langjan> I used to be able to pick view sizes etc 
[15:37] <Kilos> oh my
[15:38] <Langjan> file manager is files 3.20.3
[15:38] <Kilos> was it a good upgrade
[15:38] <Langjan> well it went ok I think, how will I know?
[15:38] <Kilos> run sudo apt update $$ sudo apt upgrade and see what it says
[15:38] <Kilos> nono
[15:38] <Kilos> &&
[15:39] <Kilos> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:39] <Kilos> bit dark in here cant see keys lekker sorry
[15:40] <Langjan> no prob'
[15:41] <Langjan> Just some autoremoves to be done
[15:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:41] <Langjan> all done no problems
[15:41] <Kilos> open and close file manager and see
[15:41] <Kilos> whats it called
[15:42] <Langjan> files 3.20.3
[15:42] <Kilos> this one is dolphin
[15:42] <Langjan> If I quit it how do I open it again?
[15:42] <Kilos> click on a file
[15:42] <Langjan> ok
[15:42] <Kilos> double click on unity
[15:43] <Kilos> kde does 1 click option
[15:43] <Kilos> very lekker
[15:43] <Langjan> I also have single click option
[15:43] <Langjan> double click on unity? 
[15:43] <Kilos> i prefer it
[15:44] <Kilos> i thought you had to double click
[15:44] <Kilos> i remember very little of unity
[15:44] <chesedo> Langjan: did you upgrade from a 14.04 to 16.04?
[15:44] <Langjan> Hi chesedo, yes 
[15:44] <Kilos> what
[15:45] <Kilos> i thought you been on 16.04 for weeks
[15:45] <Langjan> Yes you and I discussed it and then I upgraded, a week or two ago
[15:46] <Kilos> ok
[15:46] <chesedo> it sounds like you are then using the new overhauled file manager from gnome - they are trying to be minimal and have removed/moved a lot of stuff
[15:46] <Kilos> so last upgrade was within 16.04
[15:46] <Langjan> oh ok chesedo makes sense
[15:47] <Kilos> maybe you can try nemo
[15:47]  * chesedo thought by upgrade that Langjan meant release upgrade and not system upgrade
[15:47] <Langjan> well Kilos  I'm not sure if the file mgr prob came with the main ugrade or later
[15:47] <chesedo> Langjan: which feature are you looking for?
[15:48] <Langjan> chesedo,  for example if I view a list of pictures I want to be able to enlarge the thumbnails  
[15:49] <Langjan> from the top menu
[15:49] <chesedo> It's under view -> Zoom In
[15:50] <chesedo> or use <ctrl> + mouse wheel
[15:50] <chesedo> or <ctrl> + "plus/minus key"
[15:50] <Langjan> Thats the point, I dont get a "view" option any more
[15:50] <chesedo> Langjan: is it maximized atm?
[15:51] <Langjan> Sorry you lost me chesedo  
[15:51] <chesedo> btw, those shortcuts work in most app...
[15:52] <Langjan> If I go to file manager the only option is "files" - I used to have a number of options, eg "view" 
[15:52] <chesedo> from the close button, move two buttons to the right to maximize/unmaximze it
[15:53] <chesedo> s/move/click/
[15:54] <Langjan> maximised or not, no options show. They used to be activated by mouse cursor 
[15:54] <Kilos> ai!
[15:54] <Langjan> now cursor only brings up "files"
[15:54] <chesedo> Langjan: out of interest have you tried a restart?
[15:54] <Kilos> things progress backwards for old peeps
[15:55] <Langjan> yes a number of times chesedo 
[15:55] <Langjan> few of us are getting younger
[15:55] <chesedo> ok, I though that an app might have frozen the panel...
[15:55] <Langjan> no
[15:56] <Langjan> panel activates fine but only shows the one option, files
[15:56]  * chesedo likes to regard himself amongst those few... until he makes shocking discoveries like grey hair
[15:58] <Kilos> see if you find anything relevant here Langjan https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/nautilus-preview.html
[15:58] <Langjan> Maybe I should install Nautilus?
[15:58] <Kilos> or if you arent happy try an alternative file manager
[15:58] <Kilos> isnt nautilus alreadt there?
[15:58] <Langjan> no
[15:58] <Kilos> ai!
[15:59] <chesedo> that is nautilus afaik
[15:59] <Kilos> what are they doing
[15:59] <chesedo> Langjan: in the terminal type nautilus and see what opens
[15:59] <chesedo> also test its menu
[16:00] <Kilos> and maybe it has preferences you can set
[16:01] <Langjan> (nautilus:22925): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_interface_skeleton_unexport: assertion 'interface_->priv->connections != NULL' failed
[16:01] <chesedo> I meant the gui not terminal output
[16:01] <Kilos> reinstall it and see
[16:01] <Kilos> use aptitude
[16:01]  * chesedo goes to eat wbb
[16:01] <Kilos> enjoy chesedo 
[16:02] <chesedo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/762137/applications-menu-missing-from-menu-bar
[16:16] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:16] <Kilos> what happened
[16:17] <Langjan> rebooted
[16:17] <Kilos> is it working?
[16:17] <Langjan> when I enter nautilus I get files so I suppose thats it
[16:17] <Langjan> but no not working right
[16:17] <Kilos> yes
[16:17] <Kilos> ai!
[16:18] <Langjan> I have re-installed via synaptic then uptae && upgrade and reboot
[16:18] <Kilos> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/nautilus-prefs.html
[16:18] <Langjan> ai!
[16:19] <Kilos> if it doesnt come right read up on nemo file manager for 16.04
[16:19] <Kilos> horrible when things change after an upgrade
[16:19] <Kilos> makes life hard for ballies
[16:19] <Kilos> i found a great file search tool
[16:19] <Kilos> called angrysearch
[16:20] <Kilos> shows everything
[16:20] <Langjan> Ive been to that link thks but those options dont help  
[16:20] <Kilos> ai!
[16:20] <Kilos> why you keep breaking things
[16:20] <Kilos> oh its unity not you
[16:21] <Kilos> whats news on the graphics card
[16:21] <Kilos> that card is most likely over 1k new
[16:21] <Kilos> or even more
[16:21] <Langjan> Have you read where Solomon talks about a woman who is like a dripping faucet? 
[16:21] <Langjan> lmga
[16:21] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:22] <Kilos> where that came from
[16:22] <Kilos> ohi superfly you settling in my friend
[16:22] <Kilos> ?
[16:23] <Langjan> no news on graphics yet
[16:24] <Kilos> get that ones make and model and price it
[16:24] <Kilos> im sure you will fall on your back
[16:24] <Kilos> best place to look for good grphics cards is from gamers
[16:24] <Kilos> they forever want something better
[16:25] <Langjan> I'm in no rush
[16:27] <Langjan> I think my first step is to see if I can switch those hard drives, maybe the prob will be sorted if 14.04 runs on this machine and mine goes to the newer motherboard 
[16:28] <Kilos> what are your specs on this one?
[16:29] <Kilos> like cpu speed and cores and amount of ram
[16:29] <Langjan> But we have the grandchildren here, taking them to Pretoria tomorrow, will check on you on and off, have a lovely Chritmas if we dont chat before then
[16:29] <chesedo> Langjan: can you hover your mouse over the menu bar, then press print screen on keyboard, the "copy to clipboard" and then paste here http://pasteboard.co/ using <ctrl> + v
[16:29] <Kilos> ty oom you enjoy them
[16:29] <Kilos> and keep safe
[16:29] <Langjan> mine is 4GB ram the other is 8
[16:29] <Kilos> do that quick for chesedo 
[16:30] <Kilos> he will sort something
[16:30] <Kilos> young chesedo is very clever
[16:33] <Langjan> Current Asus mboard PK5PL-AM SE, bios 0602. CPU is Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz with 4 Gb RAM and 120 GB SSD. Other is Fujitsu Esprimo E5731 with a Pentium Dual Core CPU E5 700 @ 3,00 GHz and 8 GB RAM. 
[16:34] <Langjan> OK chat later Kilos go well and look after yourself
[16:34] <Kilos> go well Langjan 
[16:34] <Langjan> thks
[16:35] <Kilos> he gets all the weird problems
[16:53] <superfly> Kilos: it's 9:52 in the morning right now, I got home at 9:00pm last night 
[16:54] <Kilos> whew, family ok superfly ?
[16:54] <Kilos> happy to see you
[18:06] <magespawn> chat later
[18:21] <superfly> Kilos: everyone is fine, thanks. Family is very happy to see me. 
[19:01] <Kilos> time2dock you here?
[19:01] <thatgraemeguy> hi fly
[19:01] <time2dock> hi
[19:01] <nsnzero> hi guys
[19:02] <Kiloswould> ai!
[19:02] <Kilos> time2dock would you like to become an official ubuntu-za member
[19:03] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[19:05] <nsnzero> hi kilos
[19:06] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[19:24] <inetpro> good evening
[19:24] <inetpro> hi superfly
[19:24] <inetpro> nice to see you back here again
[20:00] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:01] <paddatrapper> Telkom... Why do you choose now... 
[20:07] <Langjan> Hi chesedo just thought I will drop you a line to say I reinstalled and activated Nautilus, problem solved. Many thanks for your help. Sleep weel. 
[20:07] <Langjan> well
[20:08] <superfly> hi thatgraemeguy, inetpro, paddatrapper
[20:08] <paddatrapper> Hey superfly. You escaped just in time. Internet is now out 
[20:08] <Langjan> hi superfly how did your trip go, everything ok that side?
[20:09] <superfly> paddatrapper: and I have such nice internet here... 11.4 MB/s download :-D
[20:09] <superfly> hi Langjan, trip went OK, everything is fine.
[20:10] <tumbleweed> superfly: are you stuck with one of the big shitty ISPs?
[20:11]  * tumbleweed has comcast. It's fast enough, usually. And has IPv6. But urgh.
[20:11] <Langjan> Good. Lekker to see you here...
[20:12] <superfly> tumbleweed: I believe we're on Comcast too
[20:12] <superfly> No, wait. We're on Cox.net
[20:12] <superfly> tumbleweed: compared to South Africa, it's glorious ;-)
[20:13] <tumbleweed> :)
[20:13] <tumbleweed> oh, I also have to buy cable TV service, enough though I don't have a TV (to get the higher speeds)
[20:26] <paddatrapper> superfly: only a meg faster than us :p
[20:31] <superfly> paddatrapper: Mega BYTES
[20:46] <paddatrapper> superfly: ok I stand corrected 
[21:25] <kulelu88> chesedo: flex-direction to rows?
[21:25] <kulelu88> *columns
[21:29] <superfly> hi kulelu88
[21:29] <kulelu88> hey superfly . you landed safely? 
[21:29] <kulelu88> hows the family?
[21:29] <superfly> Yup. They're good.
[21:29] <kulelu88> great to hear :) 
[21:29] <superfly> it's 14:30 here now :-)
[21:32] <kulelu88> hows the weather in the desert?
[21:39] <superfly> rainy at the moment
[21:39] <kulelu88> Is it always warm there?
[21:40] <superfly> No, in winter it does get cold, but not as bad as further north
[21:40] <superfly> I have a t-shirt on at the moment
[21:41] <kulelu88> How long was the flight?
[21:43] <superfly> Which one? There were 3
[21:44] <superfly> The shortest one was just under 4 hours, and the longest one was 15 hours
[21:44] <kulelu88> ZA - Qatar, Qatar - London, London - Houston ?
[21:45] <superfly> Cape Town -> Doha -> Chicago -> Tucson
[21:45] <kulelu88> Logically, flying via Doha makes no sense (going backwards), but if the flight was cheaper, why not
[21:46] <superfly> MUCH
[21:46] <kulelu88> (not illogical on your flight-choice, but illogical for airlines to do that)
[21:46] <superfly> It's because it was Qatar Airways
[21:47] <kulelu88> I don't think BA does that for ZA - Hong Kong (it is direct), but Emirates/Qatar/Etihad isn't
[22:02] <kulelu88> you taking a break now or back to coding? superfly 
[22:07] <superfly> kulelu88: I'm just chilling with the family
[22:34] <kulelu88> superfly: do you know how to style an <a> element (and create a nav link) without the underline of the link appearing?
[22:45] <confluency> kulelu88: text-decoration: none
[22:47] <kulelu88> confluency: thank you sir, that worked
[22:47] <confluency> I'm a ma'am, but no problem. ;)
[22:49] <kulelu88> heh, so there's 2 ladies here. good to know. you a german? confluency 
[22:49] <confluency> No, I'm Polish. Geographically close enough. :P
[22:50] <kulelu88> Guten nagte ?
[22:50] <confluency> For all you know, we are all ladies wearing fake internet moustaches.
[22:50] <confluency> Dobranoc.
[22:51] <kulelu88> that's not the rule of the internet
[22:51] <confluency> That rule of the internet belongs to 1996, and it was already incorrect in 1996.
[22:52] <kulelu88> rule 29: 29. On the internet, all girls are men, and all kids are undercover FBI agents or Justice Decoys. 
[22:57] <kulelu88> have you been on the internet since 96? confluency :D
[22:57] <kulelu88> brb