[00:00] <jayjo> what's the best way to make an animated gif from png files? I have generated graphs in python and would like to make an animation, do I need special software?
[00:01] <EriC^> jayjo: convert can do that
[00:02] <jayjo> how do I do multiple images?
[00:02] <EriC^> convert <options> images*
[00:03] <EriC^> man convert
[00:11] <Zombie> What package contains libuser-ldap on Ubuntu?
[00:12] <nacc> Zombie: is that a command?
[00:13] <nacc> Zombie: and/or what guide are you reading that suggests you need it (for context)
[00:17] <Zombie> nacc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libuser/+bug/1154812
[00:17] <Zombie> This prevents the management of RFC2307 attributes on Samba 4.
[00:18] <nacc> Zombie: well then, it seems quite clear no pacakge contains libuser-ldap :)
[00:18] <Zombie> This needs to be fixed.
[00:20] <nacc> Zombie: the debian bug is the 'right' place to fix it, and it seems like the last attempt hung the tests
[00:31] <plshelp> can someone help me with a hdd issue
[00:31] <blackflow> So, where does one report problems with snap apps? To Ubuntu or the vendor? for example VLC via snaps doesn't block screen power saving mode.
[00:31] <Ben64> plshelp: sounds like you want ##hardware
[00:31] <plshelp> getting slow help from there
[00:32] <Ben64> well you won't get hardware help here
[00:32] <nacc> blackflow: the vendor
[00:32] <nacc> blackflow: well, the snap owner
[00:35] <kys> i wanna die
[00:37] <lelu> hola
[00:40] <Krysti909> up. every time i'm anti-semitic i just inform the crowd i'm a jew and the authorities take away a few goys instead.
[00:44] <tysor> i coded for microsoft for 14 years.
[00:45] <SValkyrie> Hello everyone -- we are still working on the issue where Ubuntu Live will not recognize the HDD in my system to allow me to install.  URL @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/860432/ubuntu-live-16-04-1-does-not-detect-any-hdd-cannot-install -- Any input is appreciated.
[00:46] <tysor> ms paid me almost 200k/yr + stock options and benefits.
[00:49] <nacc> !ot | tysor
[00:53] <caliculk> When running xrandr with the -s flag, could someone remind me where those saved resolution configurations are stored?
[00:54] <caliculk> I have two different ones, but I need to edit those reolutions to something else, and caan't remember where I made those changes.
[01:10] <john_ubuntu> hi,may i ask how to use zfs in my ubuntu 16?
[01:10] <john_ubuntu> i use sudo zpool create -f vento-pool /dev/sda
[01:11] <john_ubuntu> however it shows cannot create 'vento-pool': one or more vdevs refer to the same device, or one of
[01:11] <john_ubuntu> the devices is part of an active md or lvm device
[01:11] <john_ubuntu> thank you very much
[01:25] <hipitihop> On my desktop 16.04 I see ntop running, can someone enlighten me pls
[01:27] <Ben64> hipitihop: is there a problem with that
[01:28] <hipitihop> well discovered via nestat after I found port 3000 was busy and wondering why
[01:31] <hipitihop> Ben64, ^^^ so what is this and why is it listening on ports
[01:32] <Ben64> probably something you have set up
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[01:33] <Ben64> hipitihop: yep thats what it does
[01:35] <hipitihop> Ben64, must have been ages ago. Thought it was something standard. All good unistalled thanks.
[01:37] <Steven_M> For some reason my system has stopped shutting down cleanly. I know this because when I boot, fsck keeps having to recover the ext4 journal. Can you guys please tell me where to look in the logs to find the cause of this?
[01:44] <yaaicdemo> can someone hell me boot?
[01:44]  * HumbledMatt is starting to love Ubuntu
[01:45] <Bashing-om> yaaicdemo: Possibly, if you describe the issue .
[01:48] <yaaicdemo> well on ps3 there is a lot of raggers over using there booting powers it annoys me when i cant get online for 15 to 50 minutes at a time no not an over exaggeration true facts it happens to me and my friends but booting would atleast help me get revange and protect me and my friends
[01:51] <kode54> Bashing-om: ignore them, they want to know how to "boot" someone offline
[01:51] <kode54> sorry, we don't discuss "putty booters" here (lol)
[01:53] <yaaicdemo> kode54 if you dont believe what i said i can show proof you can add me on ps3 it's not the fact i won't boot someone offline its the fact that i can defend my self how would you feel if you consistently get hit offline and Cant do anything about it?
[01:53] <zhangyankun> what?
[01:53] <kode54> he wants to DDoS people in revenge for DDoSing his PS3 game console off the PlayStation Network, a common thing that script kiddies do these days
[01:54] <KDDLB> freaking skiddies and their "putty booters"
[01:54] <KDDLB> harming the reputation of a nice piece of software
[01:54] <SValkyrie> One more time: looking for assistance with getting Ubuntu to recognize my HDD.  URL@ askubuntu.com/questions/860432/ubuntu-liave-16-04-1-does-not-detect-any-hdd-cannot-install
[01:54] <kode54> "putty booter" was a term I first heard on YouTube, it's a funny as hell term
[01:54] <tonyt> this turn into a packet kiddie or ps3 chan all of the sudden?
[01:54] <kode54> basically, using the PuTTY SSH client to connect to a VPS and "boot" people off the internet
[01:54] <nacc> yaaicdemo: 100% offtopic for this channel, sorry
[01:54] <kode54> tonyt: I haven't a clue
[01:55] <nacc> kode54: we can stop talking about it as well
[01:55] <kode54> yes
[01:55] <billythekid88> Hello everyone?
[01:55] <kode54> I only elaborated because someone asked me what the hell I was going on about
[01:55] <KDDLB> SValkyrie, did you try lsblk on a live CD/DVD?
[01:55] <SValkyrie> yes it is included in the link
[01:55] <KDDLB> or smartctl (you need to probably install smartmontools)
[01:55] <billythekid88> Does anyone here talk about there dy or just computer stuff?
[01:55] <billythekid88> Day
[01:56] <yaaicdemo> kode54 so you see what point im making here and its not PlayStation only its my home connection somehow they can shut it down nothing connects to wifi for as long as they hit me off
[01:56] <wedgie> billythekid88: just support questions. There's an offtopic channel for other stuff
[01:56] <billythekid88> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ok i'll leave you too it :-)
[01:56] <wedgie> !ot
[01:57] <SValkyrie> KDDLB: please provide command for smartctl
[01:57] <KDDLB> SValkyrie: smartctl -A /dev/sda (or b or c )
[01:57] <KDDLB> also check your kernel logs,
[01:59] <SValkyrie> I cannot run any command on /sda as Ubuntu does not think it exists
[01:59] <SValkyrie> only sr0
[01:59] <kode54> sr0 would be your optical drive
[01:59] <kode54> weird
[01:59] <KDDLB> hmph, check your kernel logs
[01:59] <kode54> try lspci?
[02:00] <KDDLB> dmesg | less
[02:00] <KDDLB> or what kode54 said
[02:00] <kode54> lspci -nnk
[02:00] <kode54> that will show if your SATA interface has any modules loaded
[02:00] <SValkyrie> lspci -nnk  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23666740/
[02:01] <kode54> weird, the ahci modules are loaded for that interface
[02:01] <kode54> both the intel and the jmicron
[02:01] <kode54> time to scour dmesg for output regarding SATA?
[02:02] <SValkyrie> I am rather new to Ubuntu so anything I need to do will need elaboration please
[02:02] <kode54> dmesg > dmesg.txt
[02:02] <kode54> maybe check it for addresses you don't want to post
[02:02] <kode54> like serial numbers
[02:03] <kode54> wait, nah, those are safe
[02:03] <SValkyrie> how do I open dmesg.txt
[02:04] <KDDLB> xdg-open dmesg.txt
[02:06] <SValkyrie> there is a lot of data here, should I post using the pastebinit plugin?  I don't know if there's anything sensitive here
[02:07] <kode54> you could always private paste it and PM me a link, and I'll not share it with anyone
[02:07] <kode54> if you trust me
[02:07] <sintre> i wouldn't paste anything to anybody if your not sure
[02:07] <kode54> nope
[02:07] <kode54> not sure at all
[02:08] <sintre> then don't
[02:08] <kode54> because it could have unique identifying information in it
[02:08] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: (just) maybe, later on, you may want to try this: cd /sys/class/scsi_host/; for host in host*; do echo Scanning $host; echo '- - -' | sudo tee /sys/class/scsi_host/$host/scan > /dev/null ; done; dmesg -T |  tail -n 10
[02:08] <tomreyn> that was missing a trailing 0
[02:08] <tomreyn> making it 100
[02:13] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: that's to reset and rescan your scsi (sata/sas) bus. might help detecting the disk if it wasn't detected during boot. but you'd better start with what k0de54 suggested.
[02:17] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: I have completed the suggested command, where to go from here?
[02:20] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: does 'lsblk' show somethjing starting "sd" now?
[02:21] <SValkyrie> negative, only sr0 and loop0, same as before
[02:21] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: okay, so your drive is still not detected.
[02:22] <kode54> quick report
[02:22] <Bashing-om> SValkyrie: Does bios see the drive ?
[02:22] <kode54> it may be attached to a Marvell 9123
[02:22] <kode54> BIOS probably needs that to be set to AHCI before it'll even work
[02:22] <kode54> it's currently loading pata_acpi for that device
[02:22] <SValkyrie> Bashing-om: correct, bios does see HDD
[02:23] <SValkyrie> kode54: when I go into the BIOS and choose SATA mode it is listed AHCI
[02:23] <kode54> try moving the drive to a blue port, instead of red or gray
[02:24] <kode54> blue are Intel P55, red are JMicron JMB361, gray are the Marvell 6Gb/s ports
[02:24] <SValkyrie> how do I determine which color the SATA port is
[02:24] <kode54> aren't they different color plastic on the board?
[02:24] <kode54> or are you colorblind? :[
[02:25] <Bashing-om> SValkyrie: Then next up in my troubleshooting is ' sudo fdisk -lu ' OR if GPT ddrive then gdisk is the tool here .
[02:25] <sintre> if your wanta uefi install your partitopn needs to be gpt
[02:25] <kode54> oh
[02:26] <kode54> if it's a PATA driver, the letters wouldn't be sd* anyway
[02:26] <sintre> if a older legacy style install it needs to be ms/dos partition tasable
[02:26] <sintre> table bla sry
[02:26] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: last time we discussed this (i remember now that we did), shortly before you left, i had asked whether the same configuration wotks with a different OS. and you said that the disk had worked with windows but you had since changed the bios configuration. i then suggested you could switch the bios back to what it used to be, and to what works with windows, and then try ubuntu again. did you?
[02:27] <kode54> SValkyrie: do you have any /dev/hd* devices?
[02:27] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: correct, I can power down now and run win7 without changing anything in the BIOS.  I nuked windows and reinstalled
[02:27] <kode54> nm
[02:27] <kode54> 10.04 changed that
[02:28] <sintre> so val you want a duel boot machine?
[02:28] <SValkyrie> I am attempting to achieve this, yes
[02:29] <SValkyrie> my ticket is posted here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/860432/ubuntu-live-16-04-1-does-not-detect-any-hdd-cannot-install
[02:29] <sintre> wubn7 home i believe i shutting down support here soon or atleast security pactches
[02:29] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: maybe just show: lsblk --ascii --nodeps   # this should not contain sdensitive information.
[02:30] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: output @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23666834/
[02:30] <tomreyn> hmm so no hd*
[02:31] <SValkyrie> I can attempt to shut down and connect the HDD by a blue SATA connector, I had never noticed they had colors before but I Can attempt to identify
[02:32] <kode54> log also shows your CPU is running hot
[02:33] <sintre> val> are you on a different computer or a live cd?
[02:33] <kode54> and is getting throttled as a result
[02:33] <SValkyrie> I do not understand why it is so hot in Ubuntu: in windows it only runs around 54 not under any load
[02:34] <SValkyrie> I am currently chatting through the PC we are attempting to troubleshoot -- I Can boot up my laptop maintain a connection with IRC
[02:34] <tomreyn> maybe the fan's not bios controlled
[02:34] <arog> hey
[02:34] <sintre> or maybe not full installe dyet so it doesn't have any settings to throttle fan properly
[02:34] <arog> is there a good app to easily switch graphical display mode like mirroring vs extending?
[02:34] <sintre> atmatm
[02:35] <arog> also if i have 3 displays connected is it possible to mirror 2 of them while extend the third off them?
[02:35] <sintre> val> can win 7 still boot?
[02:35] <SValkyrie> sintre: yes, if I shutdown and remove the DVD win7 will load
[02:36] <sintre> ok heres an idea , instead of trying a unique partition
[02:36] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: do you have any (pseudo) hardware RAID setup there? it could be that windows comes witha driver for it but not linux.
[02:36] <sintre> delete it and merge it into windows 7 again
[02:36] <sintre> i mean from win 7
[02:36] <sintre> then try to let auto magic installed to the rest
[02:37] <sintre> installer
[02:37] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: I have never made a conscious choice to invoke a RAID setup, previously win7 was installed on IDE, I nuked that installation and changed the HDD controller to AHCI, and reinstallted windows under those instructions
[02:37] <SValkyrie> as such, I cannot think it is a RAID problem
[02:38] <SValkyrie> sintre: Instruction unclear, I should extend the win7 partition with the unallocated space?
[02:38] <kode54> oh, I see, your board currently has marvell IDE/PATA controller
[02:38] <sintre> yes
[02:38] <kode54> no Marvell 6G controller
[02:39] <kode54> that's an add-on card
[02:41] <Steven_M> Is there a way to get journalctrl to only show the log enteries related to the most recent shutdown sequence?
[02:42] <SValkyrie> kode54: Does this mean we need to find the blue SATA connector?
[02:43] <kode54> there's probably no other kind than blue and red on your board
[02:43] <kode54> if they're not colored, I don't know what the difference is then
[02:43] <plshelp> you guys know what the most recent version of ubuntu works on a thinkpad t43 besides this page http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_5.04_on_a_ThinkPad_T43_(1875)
[02:43] <kode54> try checking the device manager in Windows and see them by connection
[02:43] <kode54> and trace which controller the system drive is attached to?
[02:43] <plshelp> 16.04.1 looks like it's having problems installing some packages over 10.10
[02:44] <SValkyrie> I did attempt to connect it to each SATA connector I could find, it was like 4 or 5 different connectors, each time Ubuntu did not find the HDD
[02:44] <sintre> is this a SECOND hard drive your "ticket says you were trying to install to a parition
[02:44] <sintre> ona  single drive
[02:44] <SValkyrie> it is one HDD, on a different partition
[02:44] <sintre> why are earth you trying to plug it in to a different connector
[02:45] <SValkyrie> because I had read online that some connectors are controlled by different controllers, some of which Ubuntu does not know how to handle
[02:45] <sintre> if it can read win 7 installed on it
[02:46] <sintre> what brand is your pc
[02:46] <sintre> if its a custom build with a unique mobo that could be case
[02:46] <SValkyrie> I ordered the parts and put it together myself, the CPU, HDD, and MOBO are listed on the ticket
[02:46] <cyclick> Anyone else got sound issues in firefox (only firefox) and ubuntu 16.10?
[02:47] <sintre> but if a normal consumer pc you most likely don't have anything different under the hood even i you had a second sata connector
[02:47] <sintre> ok then , custom bild
[02:47] <sintre> but its being reconised
[02:47] <sintre> atleast by windows
[02:47] <SValkyrie> yes, and the BIOS
[02:48] <sintre> normally the addition controlers will have identical hardware for all those sata ports
[02:48] <sintre> so plugging it in two a different one imo might be wasted time
[02:48] <SValkyrie> well it clearly did not yield a positive result, so wasted indeed
[02:49] <sintre> do you have second pc around house you can chat with
[02:49] <SValkyrie> I can log in through a laptop, yes
[02:49] <kyo> :p
[02:49] <sintre> ok let merge the unaccloced space into win7 partition
[02:50] <sintre> the installed might be confused about that partition
[02:50] <sintre> or empty space
[02:51] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: it could be interesting to see whether grub sees the disk. you could hold down shift while booting, which should get you to the grub menu. then press 'c' to get a command line, the enter 'ls' and see what it returns.
[02:52] <SValkyrie> let me boot up my laptop and connect through IRC so I Can relay findings
[02:59] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: another suggestion would be to http://nuanceimaging.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/15390/~/how-to-generate-an-msinfo32-log
[02:59]  * tomreyn gotta sleep, gl
[03:00] <frostwire124> My frostwire won't download anything
[03:00] <sintre> hope she comes back
[03:00] <frostwire124> My internet is slow
[03:00] <frostwire124> What do i do the wifi and both att and T-Mobile are slow
[03:01] <frostwire124> .05mbps
[03:01] <frostwire124> And i can't watch Netflix
[03:01] <Ben64> frostwire124: get better internet? not sure how this is an ubuntu issue
[03:01] <sintre> call and complain to them about slow service
[03:01] <SValkyrie2> Alright, let me attempt to reboot and go into GRUB
[03:01] <frostwire124> It isn't just didn't know where else to ask
[03:01] <_eXam_> ada orang indonwsia ?
[03:03] <plaguenet> hello?
[03:04] <sintre> hi
[03:04] <frostwire124> Why can't I join #Ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:04] <sintre> you need a registered nick
[03:04] <plaguenet> frostwire124: love your name
[03:04] <frostwire124> Oh
[03:05] <frostwire124> Lol why
[03:05] <sintre> wb val
[03:05] <plaguenet> been using frostwire for so long my dad brought me too it
[03:05] <SValkyrie> So pressing shift during startup did not alter my boot process, rather win7 loaded anyway
[03:05] <frostwire124> Frostwire is ad supported now
[03:05] <sintre> good inside win 7?
[03:05] <SValkyrie> yes
[03:05] <plaguenet> i dont trip as long as it does what i want
[03:06] <sintre> merge that space
[03:06] <frostwire124> SValkyrie isn't it f8
[03:06] <sintre> into win 7 primaru partition
[03:07] <_eXam_> I have a question ... Do you help me ?
[03:07] <plaguenet> Thats what this chat is for so yes we help you
[03:09] <frostwire124> SValkyrie you can also power off by pressing and holding power button to get a menu
[03:09] <_eXam_> do you help me for learn to hack PC someone ... I am and all worker broken heart by someone
[03:10] <sintre> _eXam_ talk like that will get you banned here
[03:10] <_eXam_> sorry
[03:10] <sintre> so consider that a warning and i;m not even a mod
[03:10] <_eXam_> bbecause i am newbie
[03:10] <sintre> as for heart break best bet is to get over somebody by geting under someone else
[03:10] <sintre> then you won't feel so lonely lonely
[03:11] <frostwire124> That's what #Ubuntu is for
[03:11] <_eXam_> wrong place for me yea ?
[03:12] <sintre> yea
[03:12] <_eXam_> do you have solution for me ?
[03:12] <sintre> feel free to stay for ubuntu related support questions if you want :)
[03:12] <plaguenet> _eXam_: go to #hackers
[03:12] <sintre> if it ubuntu related somebody could probally help you
[03:13] <_eXam_> I can't get chanel #hacker
[03:14] <_eXam_> Befor and after I say thank you for all
[03:14] <_eXam_> i am so sorry
[03:15] <sintre> you'll be fine , everybodies been there
[03:15] <_eXam_> yea thanks @sintre ^_^
[03:16] <vento> may i ask somebody use zfs in ubuntu 16?
[03:16] <kode54> this is really weird
[03:17] <kode54> vento: I use it for root and for storage
[03:17] <kode54> root is unsupported officially
[03:17] <frostwire124> Do you use Kodi player
[03:17] <frostwire124> Kode
[03:17] <kode54> haha
[03:17] <vento> when i use this command  sudo zpool create -f vento-pool /dev/sdb9
[03:18] <Guest56902> testing
[03:18] <vento> it shows cannot create 'vento-pool': one or more vdevs refer to the same device, or one of
[03:18] <vento> the devices is part of an active md or lvm device
[03:18] <Guest56902> can anyone see this
[03:18] <vento> can somebody tell mu why?
[03:18] <frostwire124> I like zomboy
[03:18] <Guest56902> hi everyone
[03:19] <Guest56902> I have a question I'd like to ask about installing ubuntu on a laptop with ssd and hdd
[03:19] <Guest56902> can anyonehelp with this?
[03:20] <frostwire124> Guest what capacity are the drives
[03:20] <deadmund> Guest56902: what's the question??
[03:20] <Guest56902> I have an issue where I want to put ssd on my machine that has windows 10 pre installed
[03:20] <Guest56902> put ubuntu 16.04 on ssd
[03:21] <frostwire124> Root partition should go to the ssd and mount the rest dev/whatever
[03:21] <Guest56902> I do want to keep it and have the dual boot option. I am trying to put /home and /swap on the hdd and /boot and / on the ssd
[03:21] <frostwire124> Rather /whatever
[03:21] <vento> can you help me with this problem about zfs? thank you
[03:21] <frostwire124> But if the SSD is low capacity you'll run into issues of course
[03:21] <Guest56902> oh was there a /root option in the initial install? I think I saw it
[03:21] <Guest56902> the ssd is 128gb
[03:22] <cfhowlett> !zfs | vento
[03:22] <vento> thank you
[03:22] <frostwire124> Oh Kai yah put the / partition as the SSD
[03:22] <kode54> vento: you usually can't create pools out of volumes that are currently mounted
[03:22] <Guest56902> I do
[03:22] <Guest56902> it doesn't work
[03:22] <kode54> s/usually/definitely/
[03:23] <Guest56902> everything I do doesn't cause the bios nor the bootloader to recognize ubuntu and it just boots into windows
[03:23] <Guest56902> any thoughts on how to fix?
[03:23] <vento> @kode54 so how can i do it? unmount it?
[03:23] <frostwire124> I like to partition the SSD that way and one large NTFS partition for media and other stuff, in case I need compatibility with Windows on a live boot or something like that
[03:23] <Guest56902> that's what I am trying to do
[03:24] <Guest56902> I have a 1tb hdd and 128gb ssd
[03:24] <Guest56902> I want 500 gb for ubuntu and 500 gb windows
[03:24] <frostwire124> Guest the easiest way is to install Ubuntu after installing windows
[03:24] <Guest56902> windows is already installed
[03:24] <Guest56902> it's just that I can't get the bios nor bootloader to see it
[03:24] <deadmund> Guest56902: Try disconnecting the other harddrive for a moment, boot the ocmputer with it disconnected.  Se if you can get into Ubuntu.
[03:24] <Guest56902> even though the installation seemed to go through just fine
[03:24] <frostwire124> Do you know if it is loading grub?
[03:24] <Guest56902> but windows is also installed on the ssd
[03:25] <Guest56902> no - it does not get to grub
[03:25] <deadmund> Guest56902: try booting with the other harddrive removed.
[03:25] <frostwire124> Or change boot priority in BIOS
[03:25] <Guest56902> I'd have to open up the laptop then and I'd rather not do that
[03:25] <Guest56902> I try changing the boot priority
[03:25] <Guest56902> it doesn't work
[03:26] <Guest56902> also I have secureboot disabled and it's set to UEFI
[03:26] <frostwire124> Then i think grub isn't installed right
[03:26] <Guest56902> so here's what I do:
[03:26] <Guest56902> I have ubuntu 16.04 on my flash drive
[03:26] <Guest56902> I plug it in, turn on the comp, go to boot loader, choose the usb drive and go through the installation procedure
[03:26] <frostwire124> Can your BIOS allow you to look manually for a . EFI file to boot
[03:27] <Guest56902> while in the BIOS? I don't think so
[03:27] <frostwire124> Add custom boot path
[03:27] <Guest56902> but during the installation procdure, I see a EFI partition on the ssd and it says windows boot manager
[03:27] <frostwire124> Is what mine was
[03:27] <Guest56902> how do I do that?
[03:27] <frostwire124> I mean that's
[03:27] <frostwire124> What was in my BIOS
[03:27] <frostwire124> And I had to use it sometimes
[03:28] <Guest56902> in my bios I do not have EFI boot mode
[03:28] <Guest56902> just UEFI and legacy
[03:28] <frostwire124> It would likely be under that option, if it's there
[03:28] <Guest56902> it isn't there
[03:28] <Guest56902> it's just uefi and legacy
[03:29] <Guest56902> there's no choice for efi
[03:29] <frostwire124> Have you tried anything besides the one Ubuntu installation you're trying?
[03:29] <frostwire124> In other words has anything worked before
[03:29] <Guest56902> another installation version, you mean?
[03:29] <Guest56902> no
[03:29] <Guest56902> this laptop is brand new
[03:29] <Guest56902> I've only tried 16.04, but I can try another version
[03:30] <frostwire124> That might work
[03:30] <Guest56902> but is the process of choosing to have /boot and / on the ssd along with /home and /swap on the hdd ok?
[03:31] <Guest56902> I also choose the bootloader to be on /sdb
[03:31] <frostwire124> Yes
[03:31] <Guest56902> since /sda is the hdd
[03:31] <frostwire124> That's about the same configuration I used
[03:31] <frostwire124> I would put swap on SSD
[03:31] <Guest56902> ok
[03:31] <frostwire124> Because it functions like RAM
[03:31] <Guest56902> can do
[03:31] <frostwire124> You want it fast
[03:31] <Guest56902> what about /dev?
[03:31] <frostwire124> They're all subdirectories of that
[03:31] <Guest69293> Is anyone able to help me, I've recently purchased 3 wd red drives at 3tb for a nas4free project I have. when they were installed into computer they were only showing as 1.82TiB in gparted. I converted to GPT as per some googleing. this did not fix the problem.I've been trign to delete gpt and re inisilize in gpart and have managed after some stuffing around to get a popup in gparted that says the gpt is not at the end of the
[03:31] <Guest69293> drive, would you like to located it at the end of the drive. hit ok and the drive shows as 2.7tb. now I somehow managed to get this to wrk with 2 of the drives but for the life of me i cant get it to work for the third. is anyone able to push me in the right direction. sorry for the long post
[03:32] <Guest56902> ok, I am trying 16.10 right now
[03:32] <Guest56902> @frost
[03:33] <Guest69293> here is a pastebin of #fdisk -l    http://pastebin.com/K2gdFLRq
[03:34] <Guest56902> @frost, do I need another efi partition if there already exists one for the windows boot manager?
[03:34] <Guest56902> which is already on the ssd
[03:39] <kyo> loading..
[03:41] <fullstack> hey what do I do if I put in a usb thumb drive, that works on other computers, but doesn't on this one (running ubuntu) and doesn'
[03:41] <fullstack> *doesn't show up under lsusb or dmesg ?
[03:41] <Guest69293> no one can help?
[03:41] <frostwire124> Guest56902 it does kinda look like your HDD is interfering, you're sure the SSD is first priority?
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !patience | Guest69293
[03:42] <frostwire124> Ha ha i like that !Patience
[03:43] <frostwire124> Lol Guest56902 you could also install Ubuntu on both drives
[03:44] <Guest56902> why?
[03:44] <sintre> guest duel boot on a sinsle system is a pain even with two hdd's
[03:44] <sintre> its more work than it often pas off to be
[03:44] <frostwire124> To see if the bootloader is borked, or if it's the HDD interfering
[03:44] <sintre> but there are dozens and dozens of guides out there on it
[03:45] <sintre> i say go nuclear and study up
[03:45] <sintre> aka earase and start from scratch know exactly what you want
[03:47] <sintre> efu /uefi is a pain imo
[03:47] <sintre> also windows 10 isn't exactly niced os to play with others
[03:47] <sintre> so don't be suprised if you suceed you wake up one day after and build upggrade and whole thing is broken again
[03:48] <Guest56902> @frost, yes I am sure the ssd is first in priority in the boot order in the bios
[03:48] <cfhowlett> OR ... install virtualbox in Windows, make a vbox and install a light l/xubuntu there
[03:48] <sintre> yea lubuntu is really small and can do all linux things
[03:49] <sintre> another good solution , is take your other hdd
[03:49] <Guest56902> ok installation for 16.10 is now starting @frost
[03:49] <sintre> and out into external enclosure
[03:49] <sintre> and boot from it using usb 3.0
[03:50] <Guest56902> I'll let you know if it's able to be booted into. /home on hdd swap, /boot, / on ssd
[03:50] <Guest47024> hellow word
[03:57] <Guest56902> @frost it finished. it said installation complete, please remove the media device or something similar
[03:57] <Guest56902> @frost I hit restart and then it says
[03:58] <Guest56902> platform MSFT0101:00: failed to claim resource 1
[03:58] <Guest56902> acpi MSFT0101:00: platform device creation failed: -16
[03:58] <Guest56902> nouveau preinit failed with -22
[03:58] <Guest56902> nouveau init failed with -22
[03:58] <Guest56902> scsi host3: runtime PM trying to activate child device host3 but parent is not active
[04:00] <Guest56902> @frost should I just install everything on the hdd?
[04:01] <Guest56902> @frost yeah it doesn't show up again when I boot, not in the bios or anywhere
[04:02] <hadleigh> o all
[04:02] <hadleigh> hello all
[04:03] <hadleigh> need to update flash player what can i download to update
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !flash | hadleigh
[04:04] <vfw> hadleigh: Yes you can download and install but you are better off to use the package management system.
[04:05] <hadleigh> shizzel
[04:05] <hadleigh> there was 7 update in my software manager could be one of them
[04:07] <sintre> got a console and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:13] <Guest56902> nick:frostwire124
[04:13] <Guest56902> checking to see if that actually worked
[04:13] <vfw> Guest56902: After instgalling ubuntu-restricted-extras, you have to install flashplayer
[04:14] <Guest56902> nick:vfw what
[04:14] <Guest56902> I have not been able to boot into ubuntu
[04:15] <sintre> vfw> flash comes in that package
[04:15] <Guest56902> yeah and I include it
[04:15] <sintre> frost it troublehsooting adifferent issue with two hdds
[04:15] <vfw> Guest56902: Are you using firefox or google-chrome or chromium?
[04:16] <sintre> vfw> you really have opaid attention to chat
[04:16] <sintre> didn''t guy that was meant for
[04:16] <sintre> different
[04:16] <Guest56902> wat
[04:16] <vfw> sintre: What?
[04:17] <vfw> sintre: Please do not use Enter key for punccuation.
[04:17] <Guest56902> vfw, are you sure you meant to talk to me?
[04:17] <sintre> vfw> really
[04:18] <vfw> Guest56902: Not really, but it appeared to me you were trying to install flash player plugin.
[04:18] <Guest56902> nope
[04:18] <sintre> read the log he's dealing with a different issue
[04:18] <sintre> zand don't talk to me as if i'm a child either
[04:19] <vfw> sintre: Sorry, I'm late to the conversation.  But, you need to keep your posts on one line.
[04:19] <sintre> late night spelling issue on both sides it seems but i atleast look at a conversation before making a comment
[04:21] <vfw> I can only see what is on my screen.
[04:21] <vfw> (I entered the channel at 21:57 US CDT
[04:24] <Guest56902> so if I can't get ubuntu installed properly with the swap /boot and / on ssd and /home on hdd. Should I just put everything on the hdd?
[04:24] <Guest56902> as it is right now...windows boot manager and system files are on the ssd....
[04:25] <vfw> Guest56902: How much room do you have left on the ssd?
[04:25] <Guest56902> 100gb or so
[04:25] <Guest56902> hdd is 1tb
[04:25] <sintre> well if you have option to install to second drive i'd do it at this point vs messing with partitions and let it auto ,magic the install, BUT the boot sequence boot loader ect. i have no clue hw that will turn out
[04:26] <Guest56902> yeah I can't get the boot loader to work when I try to do what I did above
[04:26] <Guest56902> nothing sees the ubuntu boot loader,  cannot get to grub
[04:26] <Sweepyoface> Hey, I'm trying to rdiff-backup a 7G dir to an S3 s3ql mount and it's been 2 hours and counting
[04:26] <Sweepyoface> Is it ever going to finish or is it in some kind of limbo?
[04:27] <vfw> Guest56902: Yea, that's plenty for / and /boot but not enough for /home  So you have a good plan
[04:27] <Sweepyoface> What do you guys suggest I do about this?
[04:27] <Guest56902> nick:vfw but I can't get it to work that way. nothing gets recognized and I can't boot into ubuntu. it just keeps booting into windows
[04:27] <Guest56902> I have tried this with 16.04 and 16.10
[04:28] <sintre> bios boot options?
[04:28] <Guest56902> tried messing with it too
[04:28] <Guest56902> nothing works
[04:28] <hygl> hi, I have deployed a local kubernetes cluster with these instructions https://github.com/castrojo/kubernetes.github.io/blob/ubuntu-lifecycle-revisions/docs/getting-started-guides/ubuntu/local.md
[04:28] <sintre> like a one time option where you can select how you want to boot
[04:28] <Guest56902> I can boot off the flashdrive to install
[04:28] <vfw> Guest56902: Where are you installing grub?
[04:28] <hygl> how do i uninstall the cluster, if do not need it anymore?
[04:28] <Guest56902> I set the ubuntu bootloader to the ssd
[04:29] <Guest56902> but it doesn't work
[04:29] <Guest56902> this is in the installation procedure
[04:29] <sintre> then i think install to other hdd , then manuall config the grub
[04:29] <sintre> to add it
[04:29] <vfw> Guest56902: Are you getting the grub boot menu when the computer stars up?
[04:29] <kang0> What's opc server or client
[04:29] <Guest56902> nick:vfw no it only goes to windows
[04:30] <vfw> Guest56902: So you are not seeing the grub boot menu on startup?
[04:30] <Guest56902> correct
[04:31] <kang0> What's grub
[04:31] <wafflejock> kang0, grub is the boot loader
[04:31] <Sweepyoface> something you find in your garden
[04:31] <wafflejock> kang0, it's the program used to start up the OS or choose different OSes if you have multiple on a system
[04:32] <kang0> If I am using single os ; do I need grub,?
[04:32] <vfw> Guest56902: Are you sure it's actually booting from the ssd drive?  (Are you sure that the MS Windows boot loader is installed on the ssd? .. or the hdd?)
[04:32] <Guest56902> yes it says it
[04:32] <kang0> Is it like virtual machine?
[04:32] <kang0> wafflejock
[04:32] <wafflejock> kang0, you need some sort of boot loader program that starts up the OS but you may not see it and it may not be grub
[04:33] <sintre> its alittle bit of baby software , that points to other software and allows you too boot your computer
[04:33] <Sweepyoface> Does anyone know what I should do about this? Wait?
[04:33] <vfw> Guest56902: How does the ssd show up in ubuntu?
[04:33] <Guest56902> nick:vfw you mean in the installer?
[04:33] <vfw> Guest56902: Yes.
[04:34] <kang0> Which are other  boot loader programs except grub?
[04:34] <sintre> i think the problem maybe that his win 10 os is the main loader
[04:34] <wafflejock> kang0, it's not a virtual machine just a program that has configuration that optionally shows you a menu and then jumps to starting the kernel which is the core of the OS and that kicks off an initialization system (on ubuntu it was upstart and more recently systemd) those deal with starting all the services like networking and other drivers
[04:34] <vfw> kang0: Well, there is lilo
[04:34] <Guest56902> nick:vfw shows the windows boot loader as an efi partition
[04:35] <vfw> Guest56902: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:35] <Guest56902> then there are the other system files for windows there
[04:35] <kang0> So it can handle more than 5 os also?
[04:36] <vfw> Guest56902: The boot loader and the efi partition are two different things.
[04:36] <kang0> Lilo seems for Linux only vfw
[04:36] <Guest56902> but it says it's an efi partition
[04:36] <Guest56902> and with it it says windows boot laoder
[04:36] <Guest56902> it came like that. this laptop is brand new
[04:36] <vfw> kang0: lilo will boot MS Windows as well.
[04:37] <sintre> what brand?
[04:37] <kang0> (kang0) So it can handle more than 5 os also?
[04:37] <kang0> Lilo and grub?
[04:37] <kang0> Why grub is more popular
[04:38] <vfw> kang0: Grub has some advanced features that lilo lacks, (options that most do not need).
[04:38] <Guest56902> nick:vfw so do you think the bootloader is broken? even though I've only just got this laptop
[04:39] <vfw> Guest56902: The bootloader is not broken.
[04:39] <Guest56902> I've used this usb drive for 2 other computers without any issue. this is the first time I've attempted this with ssd and hdd though
[04:39] <sintre> can it boot into windows?
[04:39] <sintre> guest> also what brand of laptop is this
[04:40] <Guest56902> do I need to use that link then?
[04:40] <Guest56902> for the boot-repair
[04:40] <Guest56902> nick:sintre was that question towards me?
[04:40] <vfw> Guest56902: Yes. Use it.
[04:40] <sintre> yes guest
[04:40] <Guest56902> nick:sintre acer aspire e 15
[04:41] <vfw> Guest56902: Follow the link above and report back to us whith any further questions you have.
[04:42] <sintre> http://askubuntu.com/questions/627416/acer-aspire-e15-will-not-dual-boot
[04:42] <sintre> crap load of asteps though to follow
[04:42] <Sweepyoface> Anyone know what I should do about this?
[04:43] <sintre> seeepyoface > whats the problem
 Hey, I'm trying to rdiff-backup a 7G dir to an S3 s3ql mount and it's been 2 hours and counting
 Is it ever going to finish or is it in some kind of limbo?
[04:43] <Guest56902> nick:vfw ok I will try
[04:43] <Guest56902> nick:sintre thank you, I will look
[04:45] <Sweepyoface> I wish I'd started this with verbose
[04:45] <Sweepyoface> it's not echoing anything
[04:45] <sintre> wish i knew more , hang around long enough someone more familiar might be amle to chime in
[04:46] <Sweepyoface> alright
[04:46] <kang0> Grub can be installed in pen drive?
[04:46] <Sweepyoface> last time I waited about 30m and stopped it
[04:46] <Sweepyoface> it was doing stuff just slowly
[04:46] <Sweepyoface> so I don't know how long it's going to run for
[04:46] <kang0> How many os can be installed in 32gb pen drive?
[04:47] <Sweepyoface> its making thousands of s3ql_data_ files in the bucket that are <1mb
[04:47] <sintre> i guess very small ones , but why go for more , and go for quality apps inside the lil moible os?
[04:48] <sintre> but trying to run a os off of a usb stick , will put alot of wear on the stick swap and all
[04:49] <sintre> even thought most miminalist type linux distro  try to limit it
[04:54] <TrentP> iptables-persistent...I can set it up to run before lxd-bridge comes up on ubuntu 16.04?  I want to masquerade tun0 for openvpn.
[05:10] <Guest56902> nick:sintre that seemed to have worked! thank you
[05:11] <sintre> your welcome 100%
[05:11] <sintre> gklad some solution out there , just keep an eye on windows builds they can be sneaky :)
[05:12] <sintre> need anymore help you can catch me in #kubuntu most day
[05:24] <markholmes> hi all! i installed ubuntu server on my xps 13, and i can't seem to get wifi to work
[05:25] <markholmes> if i type lspci i see a "Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter"
[05:26] <Guest86870> Hello everyone, I am new here. What are some good things I should do with Ubuntu MATE?
[05:31] <Sweepyoface> I still don't know what to do about this, up to 3 hours now
[05:31] <Sweepyoface> for a 7G rdiff
[05:31] <mshadle> can someone help me figure out why i can't seem to bind my irc client or other things on IP aliased IPs anymore? like the IPs that are bound to eth0:1 or eth0:2 - i can't seem to get apps to bind to them
[05:34] <Jarwolf> I can't even get my camera videos to play after recording videos on my rpi.
[05:36] <Jarwolf> Also, when I play music on this firefox, it's high pitch squaling sound, I freaking jumped 10 ft off my chair. Not sure how to fix that.
[05:40] <Triffid_Hunter> mshadle: ip aliases are obsolete, you can put multiple IPs on one interface now
[05:41] <Triffid_Hunter> mshadle: with 'ip addr' command from iproute2
[05:43] <mshadle> Triffid_Hunter: okay, sorry i still call it that. i want to be able to bind to them
[05:44] <mshadle> this is how the network is brought up: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23667340/
[05:44] <Triffid_Hunter> mshadle: dunno then, I rarely bother binding stuff to specific IPs or interfaces.. only time I do stuff like that is putting unbound on localhost and dnsmasq on whichever interface I wanna be a router on
[05:45] <Triffid_Hunter> mshadle: you have two entries for eth0? does that work like that?
[05:46] <mshadle> it's actually how linode does it's auto network config
[05:46] <mshadle> inbound works fine
[05:50] <deus402> hello, i'm running 14.04.1-Ubuntu and getting a weird dpkg error
[05:50] <deus402> it is saying that a package is in a very bad inconsistent state and to reinstall it, but it is not telling me which package...
[05:51] <deus402> relevant pastebin: http://pastebin.com/8E1rRiUe
[05:53] <Jarwolf> :o odd, not sure what I did, but that certainly is not to register my Nickname.
[05:54] <deus402> can anyone point me in the right direction here"?
[05:56] <[CoD]LaW22> ubuntu studio bro
[05:58] <[CoD]LaW22> How many packages have you installed? 2? 20?
[05:58] <deus402> lots?
[05:58] <[CoD]LaW22> darn
[06:00] <deus402> is there some way to get it to tell me which package is broken?
[06:00] <[CoD]LaW22> sudo apt-get update
[06:00] <[CoD]LaW22> whats that do for you?
[06:01] <deus402>  http://pastebin.com/8E1rRiUe
[06:02] <deus402> that is where i'm getting the error.
[06:02] <deus402> even pops up when installing a new package:
[06:02] <deus402> http://pastebin.com/cKMwRE6g
[06:04] <[CoD]LaW22> sudo apt-get --fix-broken install
[06:04] <[CoD]LaW22> man idk
[06:05] <[CoD]LaW22> sudo apt-get clean
[06:05] <[CoD]LaW22> do that
[06:06] <[CoD]LaW22> sudo apt-get autoclean
[06:06] <[CoD]LaW22> then that
[06:06] <[CoD]LaW22> if that dont do shit
[06:06] <[CoD]LaW22> try this
[06:06] <[CoD]LaW22> sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:06] <EriC^> deus402: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall at
[06:08] <deus402> EriC^, that seems to have done the trick....
[06:08] <deus402> what is at?
[06:08] <[CoD]LaW22> omg
[06:08] <tarkus> Hi all. How to fix this issue? After "apt list" I'm getting "There is 1 additional version. Please use the '-a' switch to see it"
[06:08] <holallb> Hi, my ubuntu is going really slow and i cannot figure out what it is. windows works faster, which is really odd
[06:09] <EriC^> deus402: it's a scheduling program to run stuff
[06:09] <deus402> weird, what made you suspect that?
[06:09] <EriC^> "package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should reinstall it before attempting configuration"
[06:10] <[CoD]LaW22> i'm putting that in my back pocket
[06:10] <EriC^> line 36 also
[06:10] <bazhang> [CoD]LaW22, did you have an ubuntu support issue
[06:11] <deus402> damnit
[06:11] <holallb> any help please as to why my ubuntu is so slow? i cannot identify the problem. I have just activated the propietary driver of the intel processor
[06:11] <deus402> i thought it was telling me it was failing "at" --configure"
[06:11] <deus402> lol
[06:11] <EriC^> deus402: hehe :D
[06:12] <deus402> thanks bud.
[06:12] <blackTree> how to transerfe file between ubuntu host and ubuntu guest on qemu
[06:12] <blackTree> help::::
[06:13] <EriC^> deus402: no problem
[06:13] <Triffid_Hunter> blackTree: scp?
[06:13] <blackTree> Triffid_Hunter:  scp is ftp server?
[06:14] <blackTree> or it is there by default
[06:15] <Triffid_Hunter> blackTree: scp copies files over ssh
[06:15] <Triffid_Hunter> blackTree: use sshfs if you want to mount sections of the filesystem rather than copy individual files
[06:16] <blackTree> Triffid_Hunter: How to use it?
[06:16] <Triffid_Hunter> blackTree: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=scp+tutorial
[06:17] <blackTree> ohh ya thanks
[06:17] <bazhang> Triffid_Hunter, never do that here please
[06:18] <Triffid_Hunter> bazhang: ok, sorry
[06:27] <blackTree> Triffid_Hunter: permission denied
[06:27] <blackTree> trying to copy local file to remote root acount host
[06:28] <Triffid_Hunter> blackTree: well typically root login over ssh is disabled as it's a security risk.. go via your user account
[06:29] <blackTree> thanks
[06:52] <Steven_M> Hi all
[06:52] <Steven_M> I'm getting these errors when I shutdown (http://pastebin.com/raw/HTGmG20A), I think they're the reason that fsck has to recover the ext4 journal when I boot up again. How do I fix the errors?
[07:00] <SHR00MS> last night while i was real jacked up on shrooms i ran a not so smart command
[07:00] <SHR00MS> someone on a forum suggested it to fix some DNS glitch i had
[07:26] <hicoleri> how do I make my screen lock right after I close my laptop's lid? (I am using xscreensaver)
[07:27] <ducasse> hicoleri: look at the xautolock package
[07:27] <hicoleri> okay
[07:34] <Bachus> with what command do i get the Stable Release Updates
[07:35] <Bachus> dist-upgrade?
[08:03] <streulma> My FHC Azalia sound card (ALC23) is detected on 16.04 but has no sound on the builtin speakers, what can I do? Lenovo 110-17ALC
[08:03] <streulma> ALC233
[08:09] <meh32> hello
[08:09] <EriC^^> hello
[08:09] <ace_me> hi ! how can I setup network to have an accessible IP on the virtual box vps ? In virtual box I did selected host only
[08:10] <streulma> ace_me set to Bridged$
[08:10] <streulma> Bridged
[08:11] <ace_me> I did tried with bridged but the received Ip is on a LAN managed with firewall and maybe that interfere
[08:12] <ace_me> networkconfig is the command to set the interface ip ?
[08:13] <meh32> I'm trying to clone my latop hdd to an external hdd. I want to put it in .img file. I'm using lubuntu on usb to clone the disk. On gnome-disks I get: Error open /dev/sda device or resoucre busy (udisks-error-quark,0))
[08:13] <meh32> I don't think the disk is mounted.
[08:14] <PCdude> hi all :)
[08:15] <EriC^^> ace_me: no look into the command "ip"
[08:15] <PCdude> I was just upgrading some packages on my ubuntu machine, it was asking for what "default display manager" to use, there is "gdm3" or "lightdm". I have the default normally used in ubuntu, but I forgot what it was? :) i
[08:15] <EriC^^> PCdude: lightdm
[08:15] <PCdude> is there maybe a command I can use to see what  I am currently using?
[08:15] <PCdude> EriC^^: thanks
[08:16] <EriC^^> meh32: try "lsblk" to see if its mounted
[08:16] <EriC^^> PCdude: np
[08:16] <meh32> nvm
[08:16] <meh32> I got it
[08:18] <ace_me> EriC^^ it was also a more intuitive tool like netconfig or so which can / shoudl be installed first
[08:18] <ace_me> apt-get
[08:31] <borreguito> hi
[08:31] <borreguito> i am from México
[08:31] <xyzy> Hi
[08:32] <xyzy> borreguito, Australia here.
[08:32] <borreguito> hi xyzy.. how old are you?
[08:32] <xyzy> 27, you?
[08:33] <borreguito> 49 y old.
[08:33] <msevwork>  why do i have some word highlighted all the time in vim :) how do i disable that..tried F4 but didn't work
[08:33] <borreguito> Can i send you a private session for demostrate IRC to a friend?
[08:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[08:34] <xyzy> borreguito, What did you want to demonstrate?
[08:34] <streulma> 29 Belgium :-O
[08:35] <borreguito> i want so  show him  what  IRC is  ..... him only know Facebook
[08:39] <johnflux> Hi all
[08:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> johnflux, hi
[08:40] <johnflux> I just installed ubuntu 16.10 but I get a black screen.  I have a pretty new nvidia gtx 980 ti
[08:40] <johnflux> I've dropped to the console and installed the latest nvidia drivers from a ppa
[08:41] <Bent0> I've created a systemd file  /etc/systemd/system/myprogram.service    it starts fine by hand but not on boot.  Did systemctl enable myprogram.service but it doesnt show up in multi-user.target.wants. Any ideas?
[08:42] <johnflux> modprobe nvidia_375   says "Could not insert nvidia_375:  Required key not available"
[08:42] <johnflux> hmm!
[08:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> johnflux, oh a Konversation developer, nice :) what I would run on a desktop pc usually for IRC, oh and usually in GNOME as well not KDE :d however a Ubuntu tabet right now, so the not particulary great Xchat gnome instead
[08:43] <ikevin> johnflux, try with the nvidia's .run file
[08:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> johnflux, depending on your card might be something already in repos, if not be careful with ppas or run bin files
[08:45] <johnflux> ikevin: well I don't have any X, so it's a bit tricky
[08:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> johnflux, Make sure its right what installing, and youll need x for graphics card drivers
[08:46] <\9> johnflux: try lynx for browsing the web in the console
[08:46] <ikevin> johnflux, wget "http://tinyurl.com/zy3r5f2"
[08:47] <johnflux> ikevin: thanks :)
[08:47] <johnflux> I think the problem might be because of secure boot
[08:51] <ultrav1olet> I have the same problem as this guy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/817081/held-back-packages-after-installing-latest-hwe-for-14-04lts
[08:51] <ultrav1olet> What am I supposed to do?
[08:52] <ultrav1olet> The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic-lts-vivid linux-generic-lts-xenial linux-image-generic-lts-vivid linux-image-generic-lts-xenial
[08:53] <ultrav1olet> I will _not_ dist-upgrade because it's a production system and it's not ready for 16.04 LTS
[08:53] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: dist-upgrade doesn't move you from 14.04 to 16.04 (unless you do a lot of other things first, which you would remember doing)
[08:55] <ultrav1olet> Flannel: indeed, thanks
[08:55] <ultrav1olet> It's strange dist-upgrade is required for installing new versions of already installed kernels enabled via HWE
[08:56] <\9> ultrav1olet: dist-upgrade allows apt to use a smarter dependency resolution for the upgrade, possibly removing packages if necessary
[08:56] <\9> you need to use do-release-upgrade if you want to jump to 16.04
[08:57] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: That's because the metapackage (kernel packages without version numbers) depend on the specific versioned packages (linux-image-whatever depends on linux-image-whatever-1.2.3.4.5) and it *used* to depend on linux-image-whatever-1.2.3.4.4, so going from .4 to .5 means new package
[08:57] <johnflux> ikevin: okay, I've installed that nvidia run.sh, and I still get a black screen.  But looking in Xorg.0.log   the error about not being able to load the server has gone
[08:57] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: That lets you distinguish whether you want to simply "install the latest version of all of the installed packages" or "install the latest version of everything installed, even if that means new packages"
[08:58] <johnflux> running:  nvidia-detector    says that I have "none"  :-D
[08:58] <ultrav1olet> OMG that's so freaking complicated and I bet my *ss many servers will remain unpatched and keep on running old kernels with a lot of vulnerabilities because Ubuntu just doesn't allow to `apt-get upgrade` during its support cycle
[08:59] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: It's 100% standard.  People have been doing it for decades, I don't expect them to stop :)
[09:00] <ultrav1olet> pardon me this but in RHEL/CentOS I can yum update for 10 years without changing anything at all. In Ubuntu I had to enable 16.04 HWE stack first (because without it my kernel wasn't updated any longer) then I had to change from upgrade to dist-upgrade
[09:00] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support
[09:00] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: Most people don't "upgrade" they only dist-upgrade, because dist-upgrade does everything upgrade does and then some.  So "upgrade" then "dist-upgrade" is mostly redundant
[09:01] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: so even if you don't upgrade to HWE, the standard kernel should be continued to be patched
[09:01] <ultrav1olet> blackflow: not in my case
[09:01] <ultrav1olet> My 14.04 servers stopped receiving kernel updates around 3 months ago
[09:01] <blackflow> which version of the kernel is last?
[09:01] <blackflow> (that you have)
[09:02] <ultrav1olet> 4.2.0-42-generic
[09:02] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: so that's HWE, not GA for 14.04
[09:02] <ultrav1olet> 4.2.0-42-generic #49~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 29 20:22:11 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:03] <blackflow> meaning you either have to upgrade it to 4.4 or downgrade to GA
[09:03] <blackflow> (the default in 14.04.1)
[09:03] <ultrav1olet> it's what my hosting provider gave me preinstalled
[09:04] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: Had you never upgraded your kernel (stayed on 3.13), you would have support for that throughout 14.04.  You jumped to 14.10, then 15.04 then 15.10 kernel versions, and now you're on the 16.04 kernel (inside 14.04, HWE is confusing, and new-ish)
[09:04] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: that doesn't change anything :)  blame your host then.  look at the graph: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=14.04.x+Ubuntu+Kernel+Support+Schedule.svg
[09:04] <ultrav1olet> it's all confusing as hell
[09:04] <PCdude> what does the term "fencing hardware" mean?
[09:05] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: HWE is, yes.  It's why some of us avoid it entirely and stick with the base kernel versions.  (Although it looks like you weren't given this option, through no fault of your own)
[09:05] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: it's not. Ubuntu LTS has standard default kernels which are supported through the lifetime of LTS. Optionally you can install HWE kernels available through later releases. Keyword: optionally.
[09:05] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: so if your host did something you don't like, please go talk to the host and ask them where, why and how.
[09:06] <ultrav1olet> blackflow: OK. I'm just a tad sad unattended-upgrades doesn't work as expected with all these shenanigans
[09:07] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: but wait, maybe that's good. UNATTENDED should only bring security/bugfixes, not remove software.
[09:08] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: It should/does.  There should be a metapackage that rolls along with the current HWE (although at this point, you'll be on 16.04 for the life of 14.04, so it's actually a no-op even without it)
[09:08] <blackflow> please understand, administrating a production server does not know the concept of autopilot. you can  hand off some tasks to automation, but you have to stay atop of it
[09:08] <ultrav1olet> blackflow: it doesn't work when your HWE stack is no longer updated and you're left with a system full of holes
[09:09] <johnflux> dmesg says "Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console on the primary VGA device."
[09:09] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: so from what I understand is, your host broke your system by installing HWE which HAS to be kept up to date?
[09:09] <ultrav1olet> yep
[09:09] <blackflow> because either you stay with LTS supported kernel or go HWE and KEEP maintaining it.
[09:09] <ultrav1olet> blackflow: that's what I'm looking at right now and I don't quite like it
[09:10] <ultrav1olet> but then they provide us with some new hardware so HWE might be a necessity
[09:10] <johnflux> Is NVRM  the official nvidia thing?
[09:10] <ultrav1olet> but it's hard to say since there were no option of running "true" 14.04 kernel
[09:11] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: going to 4.4 kernel is okay, that's 16.04's LTS kernel, so you're still on a LTS :)
[09:12] <Flannel> ultrav1olet: You can run a "true" 14.04 kernel, you just have to not install from a 14.04.2+ iso.  Similarly, there is (now, for 16.04) a kernel metapackage that does automagically roll (just like you can have it not)
[09:12] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: can't you install "linux-image-generic"? That should install the default Trusty LTS kernel
[09:12] <Flannel> Yes, -generic would be 3.13 kernel
[09:13] <blackflow> right. IIRC the HWE ones are named linux-image-generic-lts-something-somethign
[09:14] <blackflow> but my advice would be just go forward to xenial's kernel, that's still LTS, even if newer.
[09:14] <blackflow> 3.13 is..... rather quite old.
[09:14] <Flannel> just linux-generic-lts-something (and that something is a codename)
[09:14] <blackflow> depending what other features you use, eg. btrfs, zfs, ... .that might or might no be significant.
[09:14] <blackflow> Flannel: ah, right.
[09:16] <socrates> si
[09:16] <ultrav1olet> blackflow: thanks a lot, will stay with my HWE kernels for now
[09:16] <blackflow> ultrav1olet: yw :)
[09:16] <johnflux> If I set the bios to "Windows UEFI" then I get "failed to initialize nvidia kernel module" .  If I set it to "Other" I get "Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console on the primary VGA device."
[09:18] <w6equj5> Hi all, I have trouble mounting an external hard drive on my laptop (Xubuntu 16.04). When I 'ls /dev/ | grep sd' I see my hard drive as sdb, but 'sudo fdisk -l' does not see my hard drive. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[09:18] <Atomic_zMZ99> hallo
[09:18] <Guest70568> Hey guys, I have a problem w/ my pc, I can't run mozilla don't know why. It always happensa, I open it, and then it closes for no reason. Any suggestions?
[09:20] <blackflow> Guest70568: yes, try running it from the terminal, it'll tell you teh error
[09:20] <w6equj5> Guest70568, run it through a terminal (type 'firefox') and give us a pastebin of what it says.
[09:21] <blackflow> w6equj5: anything in dmesg?
[09:21] <w6equj5> blackflow, what should I look for in dmesg?
[09:21] <Guest70568> How can I do that?
[09:22] <w6equj5> Guest70568, Do you know how to open a terminal?
[09:22] <Guest70568> Nope, hahaha
[09:22] <blackflow> w6equj5: any hints of an error. does, say, parted work? eg. "parted /dev/sdb unit mib print"
[09:22] <reser> So I followed this http://askubuntu.com/a/142000 to install a newer kernel, but after boot network isnt working. During install of new kernel I get "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.10.51.0.fw for module bnx2x" - So I guess this is the issue, but how can I find a deb package for a specific firmware, the same way as I installed the new kernel?
[09:23] <blackflow> w6equj5: "quit" to quit it, if you do anything else, it's appied immediately in parted, so be careful
[09:23] <blackflow> w6equj5: or actually running it like I wrote will exit immediately, so it's okay
[09:23] <w6equj5> Guest70568, If you're on the normal Ubuntu click the top right that gets you to search for an app, type 'term' and click on the terminal, then type 'firefox' in the terminal and see what the error looks like
[09:24] <Triffid_Hunter> reser: usually apt-get install linux-firmware covers most of it
[09:24] <blackflow> top left
[09:24] <Bent0> I've created a systemd file  /etc/systemd/system/myprogram.service    it starts fine by hand but not on boot.  Did systemctl enable myprogram.service but it doesnt show up in multi-user.target.wants. Any ideas?
[09:25] <blackflow> Bent0: pastebin the unit file?
[09:26] <Guest70568> w6equj5: <w6equj5> Guest70568, If you're on the normal Ubuntu click the top right that gets you to search for an app, type 'term' and click on the terminal, then type 'firefox' in the terminal and see what the error looks like
[09:26] <Bent0> blackflow: http://kopy.io/Km2xf
[09:26] <Bent0> Exactly the same as the one that does work, just diff binary and path
[09:26] <w6equj5> blackflow, the parted command you suggested does not have any output, straight back to prompt. Here are the apparently relevant lines from dmesg: http://pastebin.com/PqxCsLN7
[09:26] <Guest70568> woops
[09:27] <Guest70568> (process:2741): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[09:27] <Guest70568> That's what it says
[09:27] <w6equj5> blackflow, but I tried gparted and it doesn't see the hard drive at all
[09:27] <Guest70568> w6equj5, that's what it says: (process:2741): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[09:29] <w6equj5> Guest70568, has Firefox ever worked before on the same computer?
[09:30] <Guest70568> Yep, I was using it 'till 5 minutes ago
[09:30] <lkeijser> hi, just a small question concerning 12.04 EOL.  Does anyone know the exact date? All I know is that it's April 2017,  but the day would be nice to know (customer asking about it)
[09:30] <w6equj5> Guest70568, any chance you just made an update?
[09:31] <Guest70568> nope
[09:31] <reser> Triffid_Hunter: So what I need is the linux-firmware package from ubuntu version for which the kernel is ment for?
[09:32] <Triffid_Hunter> reser: don't think it cares too much about kernel version, and apt-get should sort that out for you anyway
[09:32] <w6equj5> Guest70568, well I'm a bit out of ideas. You might try to type in your terminal 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox'
[09:32] <Guest70568> Okay, I'll try
[09:32] <Guest70568> ty =D
[09:34] <reser> Triffid_Hunter: the available linux-firmware package does not give me the firmware of the manually installed kernel =/
[09:34] <w6equj5> blackflow, I'm f***ing stupid the hard drive was just not properly plugged inside its case... Thanks for the help anyway!
[09:34] <Triffid_Hunter> reser: the firmware is for the devices, not the kernel
[09:34] <blackflow> w6equj5: happens :)
[09:35] <Guest70568> w6equj5, yep, it worked! Thank u!
[09:35] <Triffid_Hunter> reser: if the package doesn't have the firmware image you need, perhaps you'll have to manually install linux-firmware too
[09:35] <reser> Triffid_Hunter: It actually has one version of the firmware, but not the one warned about during install of the new kernel
[09:35] <blackflow> Bent0: I'd say you're missing the [Install] section and something like WantedBy=multi-user.target   in it
[09:35] <w6equj5> Guest70568, awesome, happy to help
[09:36] <Triffid_Hunter> reser: during install of new kernel? shouldn't care about firmware.. firmware is loaded at runtime when the appropriate kernel module is loaded; it asks udev for the appropriate firmware file for the device
[09:37] <reser> Triffid_Hunter: So what happens is I get a warning during install and after reboot network doesn't work, I just assumed the warning was the reason network stopped working
[09:41] <Afdal> Hey I'm on 16.04 and I'm been getting the following error every time I do something with apt for a while:  N: Ignoring file '20auto-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[09:41] <Afdal> Anyone know what the cause/solution of this is?
[09:42] <Bent0> blackflow: cheers will try
[09:43] <blackflow> Afdal: you can safely remove it. Also mark this as affecting you to raise score: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1644244
[09:45] <Afdal> okay :)
[09:47] <Afdal> I've got another issue while I'm in here
[09:47] <Afdal> I think this has been one for as long as I've been using 16.04, which is roughly four months now
[09:47] <Afdal> Every time I do a kernel upgrade os-prober takes an absolutely absurd amount of time to do its business
[09:48] <Afdal> I think I detects and re-detects somethings like 4 or 5 times
[09:48] <Afdal> Running a multiboot with another linux distro and windows
[09:49] <blackflow> Afdal: I think that's just the nature of it.
[09:49] <Afdal> The entire time I've been in here I've been waiting on os-prober to finish detection so I can get to customizing some of my grub entries, for instance
[09:50] <blackflow> Afdal: maybe you can identify the process and strace it, see what's it doing, maybe report a bug.
[09:50] <Afdal> But when I'm watching the terminal it seems like it's stuck in a loop or something because it claims to detect the same OSs like 4 or 5 times
[09:50] <Afdal> before it -finally- quits
[09:51] <somefox> hi all!
[09:51] <deuces> proof of God. the rational square of the divising number of the ratio of 3 to the 7.8967056789 integer proves that a soul is immportal by scientific biological biochemical standards on the shroud of turin. to put simply r^/--+/3+++|7.8967056789 in nag hammadhi UK Library of congress states that not only is the matching blood found on the crown of thorns the True One Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ Library of Congress Numb
[09:51] <deuces> er 809705090809770569-01 cost $99.56 to import. year 2014. that number indicates that blood found on the thorns of Christ has appeared on Eucharists throughout Dozens of SOLELY Roman Catholic church's since AD0000.01 that mathmetical math is more accurate than what was done when the Shroud of Turin studies were terminated in 1997. by 203%. for a DNA match of Jesus Christ. you kill a baby, you kill your sister, newegg custo
[09:51] <deuces> mer support. btw, playboy, little sister, i'm offended. this is something God does for me alone for unsermountable suffering undeserved but hit the mark never damnable.
[09:51] <deuces> what this planet failed to do, is what the last planet failed to do. thats the only thing that keeps you alive.
[09:52] <Afdal> lolwut
[09:53] <somefox> I need help with building deb package to ubuntu (with latest libvirt version). My control file generate error "several package info entries found, only one allowed", and google can't helps me
[09:54] <Afdal> ohhh well I think the reason os-prober took so long this time at least is because I have three other kernels on my other linux OS <.<
[09:54] <somefox> this is my control file: http://pastebin.com/iCTtBEHh
[09:59] <nojhan> Hi, do someone know how to configure alsa software dmixing in Xenial? I want to mix the output of different users (mpd and the logged one, actually) and it seems to be the way to go.
[10:21] <anonymous_> hi
[10:44] <resc_040b2_3279> hhelps
[10:45] <resc_040b2_3279> anyone real?
[10:45] <j1337> hi there
[10:48] <resc_040b2_3279> ok sweet
[10:48] <resc_040b2_3279> 4
[10:49] <j1337> it's so quiet here
[10:49] <resc_040b2_3279> im trying to change  background i can read
[10:50] <resc_040b2_3279> without highlighting
[10:50] <resc_040b2_3279> screw it can someone help me
[10:50] <j1337> what are you talking about?
[10:50] <rory> Don't ask to ask - Just ask your actual question (giving as much detail as possible), and wait. You may need to be patient.
[10:51] <archive> hi
[10:51] <resc_040b2_3279> is this a place for troubleshooting windows
[10:51] <resc_040b2_3279> or ubuntu
[10:51] <rory> no resc_040b2_3279 this is ubuntu support
[10:51] <resc_040b2_3279> ok cool
[10:52] <resc_040b2_3279> ive dual booted all the ubuntus b4
[10:52] <eurorapp> Hey
[10:52] <resc_040b2_3279> and i had to partition
[10:53] <eurorapp> never expected Ubuntu to be so big
[10:53] <aredpanda`w> Good morning folks! I'm having some problems trying to update my ubuntu gnome installation. I think it might be due to kernel related packages but I'm not entirely sure. Whenever I try installing something my system tells me to run `apt install -f` to fix some problems. But whenever I try that or `apt autoremove` my system gets stuck trying to delete linux-image-extra for an older kernel version.
[10:53] <rory> eurorapp: biggest channel on Freenode usually :)
[10:53] <eurorapp> Yeah haahha
[10:53] <resc_040b2_3279> did steam change from ubuntuos
[10:54] <llldino> aredpanda`w, What is the output of apt-get -f ; apt-get autoremove
[10:54] <tomreyn> aredpanda`w: please also show outputs of: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy
[10:54] <resc_040b2_3279> sudo apt-get plex
[10:55] <aredpanda`w> who fed the troll ?
[10:55] <resc_040b2_3279> sorry
[10:56] <resc_040b2_3279> i am running in rcue i guess and someone tell me if i should enable pnp in bios r disabble?
[10:57] <catbeard> how do i remove a dkms module
[10:57] <resc_040b2_3279> having issue gpu gtx 960 and ati r9.285x
[10:58] <resc_040b2_3279> can i get a reference for some people that will help me with dual boott monitor/gpu issues
[11:01] <j1337> so, why not to name ubuntu 17 "atomic ape"?
[11:02] <resc_040b2_3279> guess ill leave thanks anyways
[11:02] <j1337> i think it is good choice lol
[11:02] <j1337> *it is A good choice lol
[11:03] <resc_040b2_3279> sudo apt-get Trump
[11:03] <resc_040b2_3279> aka the DON
[11:04] <resc_040b2_3279> prepare for america to become wealthiest
[11:05] <resc_040b2_3279> GOD BLESS DONALD TRUMP AND TRUMP-INDEMNITY
[11:06] <resc_040b2_3279> CYA...I AND TRUMP WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP GERMANY
[11:09] <j1337> exit
[11:13] <juanonymous> Hello is it possible to add another ssh key in your system if it is how do i do that? Thanks
[11:13] <catbeard> nevermind, ended up doing `dkms status 8812au --verbose` then `dkms uninstall 8812au/module`
[11:13] <catbeard> juanonymous: keychain works nicely
[11:13] <catbeard> and playing around with ssh-keygen
[11:13] <rory> juanonymous: you can create an ssh key with "ssh-keygen"
[11:14] <rory> juanonymous: you can specify which key to use for a connection like "ssh -i key.pem user@server"
[11:14] <rory> juanonymous: or you can use "ssh-add key.pem" to add it to the keychain
[11:14] <ultimate> hi
[11:15] <juanonymous> Ok ill check it out
[11:15] <juanonymous> Thanks
[11:15] <ifgem> Ubuntu 16.04. I've installed i3wm. It's cool:), but the scroll in browsers(chromium, firefox) became too slow. What should I do?:)
[11:17] <jet1337> and do not overwrite your current private key
[11:20] <loz> hey guys
[11:21] <loz> does anybody here use bluetooth headphones?
[11:21] <jet1337> hey
[11:21] <loz> I've never used them, but since I break all cable ones in 2 months I start thinking about wireless
[11:22] <loz> so I wonder how is the linux support
[11:22] <loz> what is the chance that I will buy headphones and will be able to use them with my phone only
[11:23] <jet1337> I can try with mono bt handsfree now. Wait a sec
[11:23] <loz> jet1337: great, thanks! =)
[11:24] <loz> having some experience with devices and linux, there are often some brands which you should avoid because their linux support is crappy
[11:25] <loz> does this apply to wireless headphones too?
[11:27] <XVampireX> Hello
[11:27] <XVampireX> I'm gonna ask the question here because #lubuntu guys are AFK, hoping someone could help me
[11:28] <XVampireX> I'm trying to help my aunt install lubuntu 14.04 for reasons of nvidia driver supporting specific models
[11:28] <XVampireX> I've already installed xubuntu on it successfully but it can only use nouveau driver which is slow
[11:29] <jet1337> loz, I've just paired it but it seems it doesnt work =(
[11:29] <XVampireX> but lubuntu 14.04 won't boot into grub
[11:29] <jet1337> BUT
[11:29] <XVampireX> Anyone has any ideas?
[11:30] <Ben64> XVampireX: there isn't going to be any functional difference between lubuntu and xubuntu
[11:31] <jet1337> My handsfree is using "handsfree" bluetooth profile. I guess you want to use stereo headphones. They use A2DP. Maybe a2dp works on ubuntu from box.
[11:31] <XVampireX> in terms of speed and low resource use
[11:31] <loz> XVampireX: my go-to linux now is mint, at least it feels it's easier and more stable
[11:31] <Ben64> you said the problem is nvidia driver
[11:31] <Ben64> nvidia works the same on any *buntu
[11:31] <XVampireX> that's one of the problems, yes
[11:32] <Ben64> so you're kind of wasting your time by trying to install ubuntu all over again
[11:32] <XVampireX> ok, so how do I install the nvidia driver that is legacy
[11:32] <loz> does your ant going to play games?
[11:32] <XVampireX> on xubuntu without breaking the bank (pun/mock)
[11:32] <Ben64> first, what graphics card(s) are in the system
[11:32] <XVampireX> it's for her child so yes
[11:32] <XVampireX> and preferably flash games
[11:33] <jet1337> XVampireX, it is a laptop or PC?
[11:33] <jet1337> *is it a laptop?
[11:33] <XVampireX> pc
[11:34] <jet1337> XVampireX, did you read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/481414/install-nvidia-driver-instead-nouveau ?
[11:34] <Ben64> don't do that yet ^
[11:35] <XVampireX> We're talking about legacy driver
[11:35] <XVampireX> the driver is not supported on newer ubuntu
[11:35] <Ben64> XVampireX: did you not see my question or do you not know how to answer it, or...?
[11:35] <XVampireX> Oh
[11:35] <XVampireX> I didn't see the question sorry
[11:36] <jet1337> okay, then I did not know, sorry
[11:36] <XVampireX> It was long ago when I was at her place right now we're doing it on the phone
[11:36] <XVampireX> I forgot which graphics card, but it's an old nvidia
[11:37] <XVampireX> I think the driver is something at 174
[11:37] <Ben64> well we need to make sure before doing anything
[11:38] <XVampireX> maybe older
[11:38] <XVampireX> but I remember when trying to install the driver on current xubuntu it was a mess
[11:38] <Ben64> it's fine
[11:39] <XVampireX> so you think linux mint is gonna be fine for older PCs?
[11:39] <XVampireX> will it be faster than xubuntu?
[11:39] <yossarianuk> hi everyone - I've just been given a macbookpro (work was throwing it out) from 2013 era (I think) - although I used to have experience of dual booting Linux and Windows about a decade ago (i stoped using windows then) what is the most current info for dual booting Mac OSX and Linux ?
[11:39] <Ben64> XVampireX: mint isn't supported here at all, and has some serious security issues. do whatever you want though
[11:40] <XVampireX> loz recommended it
[11:40] <Ben64> i saw
[11:40] <XVampireX> I know that it's not supported here
[11:40] <XVampireX> hence why this channel is #ubuntu and noit #linux-mint
[11:40] <XVampireX> :P
[11:40] <yossarianuk> XVampireX: Doubt it - lubuntu would be faster - and if you really want a lightweight system that is still an actual desktop I would choose Bodhi Linux
[11:41] <Ben64> hey guys, stop recommending other distros here
[11:42] <yossarianuk> Ben64: ok, however it was a question about older pc's and they were currently using xubuntu not ubuntu
[11:42] <XVampireX> bodhi linux is based on enlightenment, we want a system that is similar to windows, enlightenment is not so much
[11:42] <ikonia> XVampireX: what are you even talking about
[11:42] <XVampireX> yossarianuk: which is still related to the default ubuntu lineup
[11:43] <Ben64> XVampireX: do you have access to the machine right now
[11:43] <jgcampbell300> is there anything better and easier than xorg now days ?
[11:43] <XVampireX> access to the PC right now, no
[11:43] <Ben64> then... what are you trying to get out of this
[11:44] <XVampireX> I mean, not direct access
[11:44] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: xorg is the current standard, mir/wayland are moving to replace it
[11:44] <XVampireX> I can use teamviewer on xubuntu with it, that's the most direct control that I can get
[11:44] <jgcampbell300> ikonia: hmm usable yet ?
[11:44] <Ben64> ok, do that. still haven't figured out what card is in it yet
[11:45] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: depends on your usecase, it's certainly getting to a point of replacement, not quite their for me yet, and some security stuff needs tidying up, but it's getting there
[11:45] <XVampireX> just a moment I'll tell you
[11:45] <jet1337> Why not to do `lspci`?
[11:45] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: current ubuntu has an option to use mir (ubuntu's build of wayland) you could always give it a try
[11:45] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: get an idea of how well it works for you personally
[11:46] <njkc> How can i Increase the screen brightness
[11:46] <jgcampbell300> ikonia: think i will ... cant take struggeling throu xorg.conf to get it to half work again lol ... thanks for the info
[11:47] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: thats interesting, you shouldn't really need to touch xorg.conf
[11:48] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: do you have an unusual setup ?
[11:49] <jgcampbell300> ikonia: kina .. i wouldnt think it would be that unusual but it seems to give me trouble every time ... 2x nvidia 670 i think they where .. 4 diffrent monitors two of witch run same rez etc but other two are diffrent
[11:49] <jgcampbell300> ikonia: 3 on bottem 1 on top
[11:50] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: ah, so you probably need some specific nvidia settings pushing into the config as you won't be able to use twinview
[11:50] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: could you actually configure the x server with the nvidia config tool ?
[11:50] <jgcampbell300> ikonia: i ususaly do use nvidia tool at first and then dredge throu the stouf it dosnt get right
[11:51] <XVampireX> Ben64: what's the command to check video card in terminal?
[11:51] <jgcampbell300> ikonia: lost my backup files this time :( when i get it working again there going on a dvd on the wall ;)
[11:51] <Ben64> XVampireX: lshw -C video
[11:52] <jgcampbell300> ikonia: the worst part is getting it just right where i can move windows around all 4 monitors but each monitor act as its own space ... people have told me you cant do that but every time eventualy it works
[11:53] <XVampireX> Ben64: FX 5500
[11:53] <robo220> hi all
[11:53] <Ben64> XVampireX: wow that's terrible
[11:53] <robo220> whenever I use git I have to type in my ssh keyphrase, I have tried everything but for some reason everytime I use git/ssh it
[11:54] <XVampireX> Ben64: :P
[11:54] <XVampireX> 66MHz it says
[11:54] <XVampireX> lol
[11:54] <jeffreylevesque> how do i adjust `visudo` to ensure userName doesn't have to type a password when running `sudo`
[11:54] <jeffreylevesque> i have `vagrant ALL=(ALL:ALL)   NOPASSWD:ALL`
[11:54] <Ben64> yeah i have better cards in my garage
[11:54] <jeffreylevesque> but apparently that doesn't cut it
[11:54] <Ben64> XVampireX: what version of ubuntu
[11:54] <XVampireX> xubuntu 16.04
[11:55] <jeffreylevesque> everytime i type sudo, it prompts me for a password
[11:55] <Ben64> XVampireX: well, you're stuck with nouveau on that release
[11:55] <Ben64> although it doesn't really matter since that card is so ancient
[11:55] <XVampireX> that's why I want to install 14.04
[11:55] <XVampireX> lubuntu
[11:55] <Arcaire> fixed it
[11:55] <Arcaire> er
[11:55] <Arcaire> wrong window
[11:57] <jeffreylevesque> is it because i have `%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL`?
[11:57] <jeffreylevesque> should i change that to `%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL`
[11:58] <ij> Why do mounts stay visible in `mount' after sudo unshare -m bash <<< "mount -o bind foo bar"?
[12:03] <ij> Ah, it's because «mount» on 14.04 uses /etc/mtab, not /proc/mounts. So it won't be mounted but it'll show up as mounted.
[12:03] <XVampireX> Ben64: Right now it appears that the main question is flash I guess
[12:04] <Ben64> XVampireX: easy mode = install chrome
[12:04] <Ben64> well... maybe. depends if the computer is 64 bit :S
[12:04] <XVampireX> It's not 64bit
[12:05] <Ben64> solution: get a computer built since the invention of the smartphone
[12:05] <XVampireX> well p4 dies support 64bit I guess but xubuntu installed is 32bit
[12:05] <XVampireX> does^
[12:05] <XVampireX> or maybe not :P
[12:08] <jet1337> wikipedia says it does
[12:09] <hassan> ???
[12:10] <ikonia> hassan: ? what's up
[12:26] <mohsen-rashidi> hello there... does anybody here had a problem with connecting android phone to the computer through mtp protocol?
[12:27] <ikonia> mohsen-rashidi: why don't you tell us your problem
[12:27] <ikonia> rather wondering what other peoples problems are
[12:28] <mohsen-rashidi> ikonia: well the phone connects and disconnects constantly and i`m sure it`s not the cable.
[12:29] <mohsen-rashidi> ikonia: your right
[12:29] <ikonia> mohsen-rashidi: so tell the channel the details
[12:29] <mohsen-rashidi> ikonia: i`ve just said!
[12:31] <mohsen-rashidi> i even have installed mtplib, but no change!
[12:32] <ikonia> mohsen-rashidi: thats not the details, what version of ubuntu, what phone, how did you connect it, etc etc, any errors, any warnings
[12:33] <loz> Ben64: what are mint's security issues?
[12:34] <ikonia> loz: not for this channel
[12:34] <Santedas> Hello, I am using ubuntu 16.04, I have installed "Cinnamon 2.8.6" that comes with the default. My question is I cannot get any system sound from Cinnamon desktop work (like "starting cinnamon sound", "switching workspace sound".. etc). Besides those sytem sounds all other sounds work fine, I can play music on players or on web, can play games or watch movies without any sound issues. Can anyone guide me why those system sounds are not working, what
[12:34] <Santedas> matters most is that when I add pomodoro timer to the cinnamon panel, that timer again gives no sound warnings, I guess that is related to system sound issue of cinnamon, anybody have an idea?
[12:35] <mohsen-rashidi> ikonia: ubuntu 16.04, xperia z2, android 6.0, connected via usb cable.
[12:36] <ikonia> mohsen-rashidi: tell the channel, not me, I'm not up on android connections
[12:36] <mohsen-rashidi> ikonia: the channel could ignore your username!
[12:37] <ikonia> mohsen-rashidi: it could but it looks like you're talking to me
[12:38] <mohsen-rashidi> alright, the phone connects/disconnects instantly. thats the issue.
[12:39] <mohsen-rashidi> it doesn`t open a permanent connection
[12:41] <fragensteller> Hi. I'm currently using Kubuntu 14.04 with KDE 4, but I'd like to switch to Kubuntu 16.04 soon. My problem is that I absolutely hate KDE 5. Is there any way to get KDE 4 in Kubuntu 16.04?
[12:45] <rndmusr> hello, I'm experiencing this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1643467 - at end of that page someone sayd, that it's fixed also in precise (I'm using 12.04) but im my FF error still occurs and in update manager isn't any update connected to libav/libavcodec..
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:49] <mistralol> what the deal with the package ttf-mscorefonts-installer not being able to download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe ?
[12:53] <rndmusr> I know that 12.04 is at end of life 04/2017, do you think that libavcodec will be fixed for12.04? or at info at launchpad is wrongthat
[12:54] <ibispi_> one person's ubuntu is not receiving any data from wifi connection, even though the wifi is detected and it worked before on his computer but now it doesn't work for some reason, what would be the reasons for it not working?
[12:58] <ikevin> ibispi_, does the wifi is connected to the wifi AP?
[12:58] <nsh> why is there both gpg v1 and gpg v2 installed by default in [x]ubuntu and why are they on different keychains?
[12:58] <nsh> this seems suboptimal
[13:00] <ibispi_> ikevin: how does one check if wifi is connected to the wifi ap?
[13:00] <rndmusr> hello, I'm experiencing this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1643467 - at end of that page someone sayd, that it's fixed also in precise (I'm using 12.04) but im my FF error still occurs and in update manager isn't any update connected to libav/libavcodec..
[13:01] <ikevin> ibispi_, if iwconfig show you the SSID name, you'r connected
[13:01] <ibispi_> ikevin: ok
[13:02] <Kartagis> hello
[13:03] <Kartagis> my LC_* variables seem to have converted to ru_RU. how can I get them back to en_GB?
[13:03] <ibispi_> ikevin: he says it's not showing the name
[13:05] <ikevin> ibispi_, does it have changed the key?
[13:06] <ibispi_> ikevin: it seems his/her wifi device is not good enough to reach the signal
[13:06] <ibispi_> ikevin: we're trying to help this person in the #kubuntu channel :D
[13:07] <ibispi_> ikevin: since apparently his/her connection worked when he moved the device towards the wifi source
[13:16] <balya> check hello
[13:16] <balya> need help
[13:17] <balya> i have toshiba satellite pro c640 but when i am trying to play sound there's no sound in internal speaker can anyone help?
[13:17] <balya> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[13:17] <balya> card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 0: Generic Analog [Generic Analog]
[13:17] <balya>   Subdevices: 0/1
[13:17] <balya>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:18] <aLeSD> how could I set a different version of g++ only in a terminal  ?
[13:18] <ikonia> aLeSD: update the path ? call it specically
[13:18] <teward> ^ that
[13:18] <ikonia> aLeSD: there should only really be one on the system
[13:19] <marcAnthony_> hi! One of our servers went down, motherboard is dead but drives are fortunately safe. is there a way to transfert Linux OS + software to another server?
[13:20] <teward> marcAnthony_: pull the drives, put them in another system?
[13:20] <teward> or just replace the mobo
[13:20] <teward> marcAnthony_: is it RAIDed?
[13:21] <aLeSD> ikonia, I'd like to run an older version of ubuntu on preesistent system. Is it possible ?
[13:21] <aLeSD> schroot ?
[13:21] <ikonia> aLeSD: sorry what ? explain that again please
[13:21] <Vikram> hi
[13:22] <Vikram> hello
[13:22] <marcAnthony_> teward: the drives are not RAIDed, do you think pulling the drives and plug them on another server would make it?
[13:22] <aLeSD> ikonia, I am on 16.04 and I'd like to install a 14.04 but I want to run it without rebooting
[13:22] <Vikram> Ubuntu 16.0 is very slow in  my system
[13:22] <Vikram> what should i do to speed u
[13:23] <ikonia> aLeSD: not going to happen, use a vm
[13:23] <teward> marcAnthony_: fairly sure, yes, though you might have to install a few drivers possibly.  (It might work without needing to update things)
[13:23] <teward> marcAnthony_: just make sure the order of how things're connected on the system are replicated both
[13:23] <teward> SATA1 -> SATA1, etc.
[13:23] <teward> and then make sure you boot from the right disk
[13:23] <marcAnthony_> teward: We will give it a try then. bbl :)
[13:24] <balya> check hello
[13:24] <Vikram> hello ubuntu 16.04 is very slow in my system what should i do to speed up
[13:24] <balya> i have toshiba satellite pro c640 but when i am trying to play sound there's no sound in internal speaker can anyone help?
[13:24] <balya>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:24] <balya> card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 0: Generic Analog [Generic Analog]
[13:24] <ikonia> Vikram: you need to understand if it's visually slow, or slow to actually do things
[13:24] <Vikram> hello ubuntu 16.04 is very slow in my system what should i do to speed up 3 ubuntu
[13:25] <Vikram> hello ubuntu 16.04 is very slow in my system what should i do to speed up 3 #ubuntu
[13:25] <Vikram> cls
[13:25] <ikonia> Vikram: you need to understand if it's visually slow, or slow to actually do things
[13:25] <Vikram> clr
[13:25] <balya> clear
[13:25] <balya> is anyone using Toshiba laptop right now
[13:25] <balya> ?
[13:25] <balya> need help for configuring its sound
[13:26] <Vikram> ikonia: very slow take tomuch time to open application
[13:26] <ikonia> Vikram: so look at your video card config/setup
[13:26] <ikonia> Vikram: thats teh first part
[13:26] <balya> Vikram: How long?
[13:26] <Vikram> 3 to 10 seconds
[13:26] <Vikram> video card is good
[13:26] <blackflow> lol
[13:26] <balya> Vikram: what app?
[13:27] <blackflow> though, I've noticed too that 16.04 reacted a bit slow between click and windows opening. setting for example would take time.
[13:27] <blackflow> but that's, like, subjective, I can't put a measure to that. a second slower than usual? dunno.
[13:27] <ikonia> Vikram: define "good" is it correclty configure
[13:27] <blackflow> not so on 16.10
[13:27] <Vikram> balya: like browser or libra or video
[13:28] <Vikram> ikonia yes it is
[13:28] <Vikram> ikonia: yes it is
[13:28] <ikonia> Vikram: how did you configure it
[13:28] <ikonia> Vikram: what video card is it ?
[13:29] <balya> the only way to get out from these slow problems is to use hybrid kernel, like windows
[13:29] <Vikram> it hp laptop
[13:29] <balya> Vikram: what are the specifications of your laptop?
[13:29] <Vikram> ikonia: it is  hp laptop hp 630 every thing is pre configred
[13:31] <Vikram> balya:  wait memory 1.8 GiB, processor Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz × 4 , graphics Intel® Ironlake Mobile , disk 490.2 GB nd 6 bi
[13:31] <Vikram> ikonia:  wait memory 1.8 GiB, processor Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz × 4 , graphics Intel® Ironlake Mobile , disk 490.2 GB nd 6 bi
[13:31] <balya> Vikram: your memory clock frequency? ....Mhz?
[13:32] <mrbigbro> i am new, nice to chat with u all
[13:32] <Vikram> balya: how to check that
[13:32] <balya> Vikram: what is your RAM vendor?
[13:33] <balya> Vikram: sorry sudo lshw -short -C memory
[13:34] <balya> Vikram: sudo lshw -shor -C memory
[13:34] <mrbigbro> have you installed krita? do you face a problem like must log in first to ubuntu one account to uninstall snap
[13:34] <balya> Vikram: sudo lshw -short -C memory
[13:34] <balya> Vikram: look at ...Mhz
[13:35] <balya> Vikram: I think your memory response (clock frequency) has problem with the intel core I3 cpu
[13:38] <Vikram> balya: command not working how to check clock frequency
[13:38] <ikonia> Vikram: how much ram is assigned to your video card
[13:39] <Vikram> ikonia:  wait memory 1.8 GiB, processor Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz × 4 , graphics Intel® Ironlake Mobile , disk 490.2 GB nd 6 bi
[13:39] <ikonia> balya: why do you think his memory timing is off
[13:39] <ikonia> Vikram: how much ram is assigned to your video card
[13:39] <balya> ikonia: just my instinct
[13:39] <Vikram> ikonia: how to check that
[13:39] <ikonia> balya: what though ?
[13:40] <ikonia> balya: what possible symptom / info have you got to suggest his ram timing is off on a pre-configured laptop ?
[13:40] <ikonia> Vikram: normally set within your bios
[13:41] <Vikram> ikonia:  dont know how to check
[13:42] <ikonia> Vikram: open up the bios
[13:42] <ikonia> Vikram: have a look
[13:42] <Vikram> ikonia:  how to open that
[13:43] <Vikram> ikonia:  how to open that bios
[13:43] <ikonia> Vikram: you'll need to check the HP manual on that
[13:43] <ikonia> Vikram: it's a boot time key stroke sometimes
[13:43] <ikonia> (mostly)
[13:44] <Vikram> ikonia:  which one is boot time key on my hp laptop nothing is there
[13:44] <tomreyn> usually F2 on HP laptops
[13:45] <Vikram> tomreyn: that is for brightness
[13:45] <tomreyn> pressing escape key early on should show a textual screen shoch contains a hint on which key to press nex tto enter the BIOS setup utility
[13:46] <tomreyn> * which
[13:46] <Vikram> tomreyn: f2 that is for brightness
[13:46] <Vikram> tomreyn: f2  is for brightness
[13:46] <tomreyn> Vikram: no, function f2 is brightness
[13:46] <glitchd> i have a tower with 2 dvdrw drives in it. when there is no dvd/cd in the drive the icon is not shown. how can i get it to always show the drive icon even when its empty?
[13:47] <Vikram> tomreyn: you mean f with combination of 2
[13:47] <ikonia> Vikram: it depends on the laptop, thats why I said you'll need to check your bios
[13:48] <tomreyn> s/bios/manual/, right?
[13:48] <glitchd> hes trying to access the bios?
[13:48] <Vikram> ikonia: the main problem is how to open BIOS setting
[13:48] <glitchd> what kind of laptop is it?
[13:48] <tomreyn> Vikram: which hp laptop model do you have there exactly? it usually says below the screne or on the bottom.
[13:48] <glitchd> laptop/computer
[13:49] <jamesrleimer> morning
[13:49] <tomreyn> hi james
[13:49] <glitchd> with hp you usually have to press esc first to get the menu options at boot
[13:49] <ubernik> hello... i noticed that in 2.18 there are no setCrs and setDistance units on the QgsProject instance (they exist on testing. Is the eqvivalent of calling these method setting crs and distance units on mapcanvas and then saving the project?
[13:49] <Vikram> tomreyn: hp 630
[13:50] <Vikram> my Laptop model is HP 630 notebook
[13:50] <glitchd> Vikram, try pressing esc at the boot post
[13:50] <tomreyn> Vikram: F10 then
[13:50] <glitchd> Vikram, should give you a small menu of options
[13:50] <Vikram> you mean to restart
[13:50] <hemangpatel> Hi
[13:50] <glitchd> yo
[13:50] <hemangpatel> Im creating init.d script
[13:51] <Vikram> I want to check clock frequency
[13:51] <hemangpatel> I gave +x and 0755 permission to script
[13:51] <Vikram> tomreyn: I want to check clock frequency
[13:51] <ubernik> ah, sorry, wrong channel...
[13:51] <hemangpatel> And i put that in /etc/init.d/
[13:52] <tomreyn> Vikram: i am aware. repeating what you want to do won't help.
[13:52] <styler2go> Hi. I have an ubuntu on my usb stick and i accidently deleted grub. Can someone help me installing grub on it?
[13:52] <hemangpatel> But when i run it with sudo command it never pass this line ". /lib/lsb/init-functions" in script
[13:52] <tomreyn> Vikram: this is really outside of ubuntu support, though, you could try to get help in ##hardware
[13:52] <hemangpatel> Is there any extra i need to do ?
[13:53] <Vikram> ikonia: processor Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz × 4 ,
[13:53] <Vikram> ikonia:  graphics Intel® Ironlake Mobile
[13:54] <Vikram> ikonia:  disk 490.2 GB nd 64 bit
[13:55] <tomreyn> Vikram: i don't think ik0nia asked for this information.
[13:55] <ikonia> Vikram: you keep repeating that
[13:56] <ikonia> Vikram: and I keep telling you, you need to check how much ram your video card has assigned, we need to understand if your problem is "visual" performance or 'actually poor performance'
[13:56] <Vikram> ikonia:  CPU MHz max 2399
[13:56] <ikonia> Vikram: sorry, thats a cpu
[13:56] <Vikram> ikonia:  CPU MHz min 933
[13:56] <ikonia> not a video card
[13:56] <ikonia> and thats speed, not ram
[13:58] <tomreyn> hemangpatel: what makes you think it doesn't get past this line?
[14:00] <tomreyn> styler2go: insert usb stick, type "dmesg | tail" to learn which block device name (usually starts with 'sd' followed by another character) was assigned to it. for example: "sdz". then run: sudo grub-install /dev/sdz
[14:01] <Vikram> ikonia:  vendor HP
[14:01] <Vikram> ikonia:         version: F.22
[14:02] <tomreyn> Vikram: please tell me "i read you" when you read this
[14:02] <Vikram> ikonia:       size: 1MiB        capacity: 1984KiB
[14:02] <Vikram> tomreyn i read you
[14:02] <tomreyn> okay, so it's not just latency
[14:03] <Vikram> tomreyn: i read you
[14:03] <tomreyn> thanks
[14:03] <Vikram> tomreyn: ram vendor hp        size: 1MiB        capacity: 1984KiB
[14:03] <tomreyn> styler2go: i'm not really sure whether this is what you are trying to do, though. what do you mean by "accidentially deleted grub"
[14:04] <hemangpatel> tomreyn, leave it
[14:04] <tomreyn> Vikram: please stop. nobody asked to to post your computersÄ technical specifications over and over again.
[14:04] <tomreyn> hemangpatel: i should leave what?
[14:05] <hemangpatel> tomreyn, It's not a problem. No help required. thank you for asking
[14:05] <tomreyn> okay ;)
[14:05] <Vikram> tomreyn: if i give you my Email can you help me there ... to tell me how to speed up my system
[14:05] <tomreyn> no Vikram
[14:06] <Vikram> Vikram +R
[14:06] <Vikram> Vikram+R
[14:06] <ikonia> Vikram: what is your native language
[14:07] <Vikram> ikonia:     English
[14:07] <Vikram> ikonia: if i give you my Email can you help me there ... to tell me how to speed up my system
[14:07] <ikonia> Vikram: no, please do not ask that
[14:07] <Vikram> ikonia: because on this screen itz very difficult to understand
[14:08] <ikonia> Vikram: you are in Indian
[14:08] <ikonia> India
[14:08] <ikonia> I doubt English is your first and native language
[14:08] <Vikram> ikonia: yes how you come to know
[14:08] <blackflow> tough guess
[14:09] <Vikram> ikonia: I know Hindi, English , Punjabi, Dogri, Himachali and French
[14:10] <balya> Vikram: sorry,my headphone went dead,
[14:10] <balya> ¬¬¬¬¬¬bad english
[14:10] <helloworld> 您好哇
[14:10] <balya> nihao
[14:10] <vins0n> 雷猴啊
[14:11] <linux_user> Good morning everyone!!! these are the errors I get trying to install zfs-dkms on Ubuntu 16.04. if anyone can provide any guidance that'd be awesome!  http://pastebin.com/Hspi6stn
[14:12] <vikram> #ubuntu
[14:12] <vikram> lost the chat
[14:12] <vikram> ikona:
[14:12] <tomreyn> linux_user: which how-to are you following there?
[14:13] <linux_user> none, just did an apt-get install zfs-dkms, but if there is a how to, I'd be happy to follow it!?!
[14:13] <vikram> tomreyn: still you not help me
[14:14] <vikram> hello
[14:15] <tomreyn> linux_user: sorry, i jumped to conclusions, assumed you were trying to create a zfs root fs (check https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu for that)
[14:15] <tomreyn> that's correct, vikram, i gave up on it
[14:15] <balya> linux user: maybe there is something wrong with the source code  extern int posix_acl_valid(struct user_namespace *, const struct posix_acl *);, the zmf just call function with 1 argument
[14:16] <linux_user> I didn't modify any source code
[14:16] <linux_user> all I did was an install of it
[14:16] <vikram> tomreyn: is there is command to delete temporary files
[14:16] <linux_user> it ought to go right along, I am not a developer
[14:16] <yao_ziyuan> just learned about a 0-day attack that affects ubuntu 16.04: http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/12/fedora-and-ubuntu-0days-show-that-hacking-desktop-linux-is-now-a-thing/
[14:16] <vikram> ikona:  Are you Reading this
[14:16] <yao_ziyuan> does ubuntu 16.10 prevent it?
[14:16] <balya> linux user: yes maybe the source code is wrong or WE dont have such  include/linux/posix_acl.h
[14:17] <yao_ziyuan> i use ubuntu 15.10. are there patches for it?
[14:17] <ikonia> vikram: yes ?
[14:17] <ikonia> vikram: what is your NATIVE speaking langauge please
[14:17] <vikram> ikona: I know many languages
[14:18] <ikonia> vikram: no, what is your NATIVE speaking language
[14:18] <linux_user> is there a channel for zfs developers?
[14:18] <vikram> ikona: you take it as Hindi
[14:18] <linux_user> or people that maintain ubuntu?
[14:18] <ikonia> vikram: there is a hindi based channel, you may find that easier to get help in
[14:18] <ikonia> vikram: #ubuntu-in is the channel
[14:19] <linux_user> balya: when you say "maybe the source code is wrong", you mean its trying to install the wrong code base? I doubt that, apt-get is an automatic thing with the repos
[14:19] <balya> linux user: I think you have it all both posix_acl.h (the header interface) and posix_acl.c
[14:19] <linux_user> huh?
[14:19] <vikram> ikona: I also understand English well
[14:19] <ikonia> vikram: you don't
[14:19] <ikonia> vikram: hence why we are having problems communicating
[14:19] <glitchd> is there anyways to show connected dvdrw drives even when there is no disc in them?
[14:19] <linux_user> balya: what do you mean by I have it all? you mean its a bug because I have everything I need installed already to build it?
[14:19] <balya> linux user: YES precisely, THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THe CODE OMG, the function parameter is missing
[14:20] <balya> linux_user: look at the message you post, nclude/linux/posix_acl.h:84:12: note: expected ‘struct user_namespace *’ but argument is of type ‘struct posix_acl *’
[14:20] <balya>  extern int posix_acl_valid(struct user_namespace *, const struct posix_acl *);
[14:20] <vikram> ikona: the main problem is im new to ubuntu and you directing me some option and i dont know how to access that particular functions
[14:20] <ikonia> vikram: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:20] <vikram> ikona: Else no problem is there
[14:21] <ikonia> vikram: this is the bios on your laptop
[14:21] <linux_user> I am not a C programmer
[14:21] <ikonia> vikram: before an OS has even booted
[14:21] <linux_user> I am just trying to get the package installed
[14:21] <vikram> ikona: yes
[14:21] <linux_user> if its broken is there a bug report
[14:21] <ikonia> vikram: I suggest you try #ubuntu-in native language discussion may be a lot easier
[14:21] <linux_user> how do I find out if and when it will be fixed
[14:21] <linux_user> I have to get access to zfs volumes I have
[14:21] <balya> linux_user: ow, btw, trust me the source code is wrong, --> or maybe there will be update soon, just report it bro.
[14:21] <vikram> ikona: are you female
[14:22] <linux_user> how do I report it?
[14:22] <ikonia> vikram: that doesn't matter
[14:22] <ikonia> linux_user: how do you know it's a bug
[14:22] <linux_user> balya said it was
[14:22] <vikram> ikona: matter alot
[14:22] <ikonia> linux_user: so let him report it
[14:22] <ikonia> vikram: it doesn't
[14:22] <linux_user> I am clueless man, I got no freaking idea if its a bug - but he said it was
[14:22] <ikonia> linux_user: no point you reporting something you don't understand
[14:22] <vikram> ikona: no it matters
[14:22] <ikonia> vikram: why does it matter
[14:23] <balya> IT IS, NOT WAS....
[14:23] <vikram> ikona: because my next sort of talk based on that
[14:23] <balya> :D
[14:23] <linux_user> I do not even know how to report it, is that something you can do balya to report it?
[14:23] <ikonia> vikram: then you don't need to talk any more, because it doesn't matter, you should talk to me the same if I'm male or female
[14:24] <balya> linux_user: yes i will
[14:24] <vikram> ikona: the way you respond .... i start attracted toward you
[14:24] <ikonia> vikram: not interested in that
[14:25] <ikonia> vikram: I suggest you try using #ubuntu-in please
[14:25] <ducasse> linux_user: why are you installing that package? 16.04 already has zfs
[14:25] <ikonia> ducasse: "wants later version number"
[14:25] <ikonia> (guessing)
[14:25] <ducasse> then use the zfs-native/stable ppa
[14:25] <vikram> ikona: whats your name
[14:26] <vikram> ikona: from where you are
[14:26] <balya> ducasse: YUP
[14:26] <kk4ewt> vikram,  this is not the place for that
[14:26] <ikonia> vikram: we don't discuss that in this channel, just ubuntu help
[14:27] <glitchd> is there anyways to show connected dvdrw drives even when there is no disc in them?
[14:27] <vikram> my number is there +91 7006629620
[14:27] <\9> quick, someone make a prank call
[14:27] <vikram> those hesitate to talk here
[14:27] <ikonia> vikram: you will not be asked again - stop looking for personal details
[14:27] <kk4ewt> ikonia, time for that one to go
[14:28] <balya> yeah
[14:28] <balya> PRAAAANK
[14:28] <vikram> ikona: u sound like girl that proved by your talk
[14:29] <\9> guess comedy hour's over
[14:30] <glitchd> =(
[14:31] <\9> glitchd: try /proc/sys/dev/cdrom?
[14:31] <tomreyn> balya: could you kindly point me to the bug report once you posted it?
[14:32] <balya> balya: wait, i must repair my headphone first, okay
[14:32] <glitchd> \9, i mean like have the icon shown in thunar and maybe on the desktop
[14:32] <balya>  wait, i must repair my headphone first, okay
[14:32] <\9> glitchd: ah, why are you interested in that?
[14:32] <\9> if there's no disk in the drive then it's not of much use
[14:33] <glitchd> \9, no real reason, just something i want to have shown on my system
[14:35] <kantlivelong> anyone ever see an issue where wireless doesnt work until suspending and resuming?
[14:35] <glitchd> kantlivelong, ive had that problem before, many versions ago tho
[14:36] <kantlivelong> glitchd: its very strange and i cannot see what is causing it. its the bcmwl driver
[14:36] <kantlivelong> removing/readding module doesnt work
[14:36] <kantlivelong> no options really.
[14:36] <kantlivelong> etc
[14:39] <glitchd> kantlivelong, i would check "rfkill list" and see what it says when the wifi isnt wokring
[14:40] <kantlivelong> glitchd: yep did that no blocks. i do see scan errors though in dmesg
[14:40] <prtg02> hi all :)
[14:41] <glitchd> kantlivelong, such as?
[14:41] <glitchd> kantlivelong, you can pastebin it to me or pm me if u like
[14:41] <kantlivelong> glitchd: when the card isnt working i see ERROR @wl_notify_scan_status : wlan0 Scan_results error (-22)
[14:42] <kantlivelong> and it never works on fresh boot. always have to suspend then resume
[14:42] <NiteRaidah> Hello.  How do I reset my password?  I am unable to boot the grub menu to fix it.  Using Kubuntu 16.04.1 and am not dual booting.
[14:42] <glitchd> kantlivelong, which bcm card do you have?
[14:43] <freakynl> Hi, I'm having some hardware issues on 16.04 LTS desktop. Now I'd like to edit the kernel parameters in the bootloader, but can't seem to get into the menu. It boots directly. Any ideas on how to get into it?
[14:43] <kantlivelong> glitchd: BCM4322
[14:44] <glitchd> kantlivelong, have you tried to put the interface up/down when its not working?
[14:44] <glitchd> down/up*
[14:44] <kantlivelong> glitchd: via ifdown?
[14:45] <\9> NiteRaidah: according to http://askubuntu.com/a/16049 you can get the grub menu to show up by pressing shift during the boot
[14:45] <glitchd> kantlivelong, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up/down
[14:46] <glitchd> down/up*
[14:46] <prtg02> I have a "kingston usb 3.0"  and installed ubuntu 16.10  my laptop, copying something to the drive is strange. Sometimes it copies some files and then it waits for 10 to 15 seconds and after that I copies again.
[14:46] <prtg02> Anybody an idea on how to fix this?
[14:46] <kantlivelong> glitchd: ill give it a shot real quick
[14:46] <kantlivelong> brb
[14:46] <NiteRaidah> \9: I've tried that but that didn't work, just started normally.
[14:46] <glitchd> kantlivelong, alrighty then
[14:48] <kantlivelong> glitchd: nope no go
[14:49] <jet1337> prtg02 have you tried to format usb stick?
[14:49] <glitchd> kantlivelong, mmk then search continues then
[14:49] <glitchd> kantlivelong, what command did you run, exactly?
[14:50] <kantlivelong> glitchd ifconfig wlan0 down then up
[14:51] <kantlivelong> glitchd also tried modprobe -r wl && modprobe wl && service network-manager restart
[14:51] <glitchd> kantlivelong, just to be clear you ran 2 seperate ifconfig commands right?
[14:51] <glitchd> kantlivelong, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:51] <glitchd> kantlivelong, sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[14:51] <glitchd> but in the reverse order of how i keep posting it..
[14:52] <glitchd> it has to go down then up.
[14:52] <glitchd> kantlivelong, btw is this a seperate computer, or the one your talking on now?
[14:53] <kantlivelong> glitchd: yep separate
[14:53] <NehezvoltRegelni> Hi, i've made a systemd init script fro redis, but it says in the vm: "mkdir[1183]: /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory '/var/run/redis': Read-only file system
[14:53] <kantlivelong> glitchd: yep using wired for now
[14:53] <NehezvoltRegelni> "
[14:53] <NehezvoltRegelni> Why /var/run is readonly during root, and how to wait for that?
[14:53] <glitchd> kantlivelong, thats what i was assuming, just making sure
[14:54] <glitchd> kantlivelong, also is this an onboard wifi card or a usb plug type adapter?
[14:55] <kantlivelong> glitchd: onboard
[14:55] <kantlivelong> glitchd: the wl module doesnt provide and param options but cfg80211 does provide a regulatory param and ive tried that
[14:56] <zarpamagnolia> hi
[14:56] <zarpamagnolia> Hau
[14:56] <jet1337> NehezvoltRegelni, do mount | grep '/run'
[14:57] <zarpamagnolia> Hello! My ubuntu will not let me open jpg photo files, nor will it play me mp4.
[14:57] <zarpamagnolia> I have several imagemagick programs, gimp, but they all give me the same error: Opening / «/ run / user / 1000 / gvfs / mtp: host =% 5Busb% 3A001% 2C006% 5D / Internal Storage / Telegram / Telegram Images / 812732978_26179 .jpg »failed: The JPEG image plugin could not open the image
[14:57] <NehezvoltRegelni> jet1337: tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=404676k,mode=755)
[14:57] <jet1337> without "do" of course
[14:57] <zarpamagnolia> can anybodi hellp me?
[14:57] <Tegenaris> Not following from the start, but I had a tremendus issue with wifi dropping on my usb adapter. Disabling saved my life :-)vu
[14:57] <ikonia> zarpamagnolia: how are you opening the jpeg exactly
[14:57] <glitchd> kantlivelong, how did you install the driver for the card?
[14:57] <revolve> Anyone know why xl2tpd doesn't work? missing its' systemd unit file.
[14:58] <kantlivelong> glitchd: apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[14:58] <Tegenaris> disabling IPv6 *
[14:58] <kantlivelong> glitchd: no b43 stuff is installed
[14:58] <jet1337> hmm
[14:59] <revolve> Why's the unit file missing for xl2tpd?
[14:59] <glitchd> are there any drivers to install from the additional drivers window?
[14:59] <revolve> It's required in order to use strongswan VPN
[14:59] <styler2go> Can i install a second ubuntu on a different drive while using ubuntu?
[14:59] <glitchd> kantlivelong, are there any drivers to install from the additional drivers window?
[15:00] <kantlivelong> glitchd: bcmwl, b43, b43-legacy.
[15:00] <zarpamagnolia> ikonia, Click right button, open how? The files are in my cellphone connected to the pc by usb cable.
[15:00] <kantlivelong> glitchd: ive tried them all
[15:00] <glitchd> and theyre all a no go, huh?
[15:01] <NerdJuice> Hi All.  I have had Ubuntu Server running on Virtual box with no problems for a month or so.  I stupidly did an update/upgrade without taking a snapshot first and keep getting stuck on "a job is running for raise network interfaces".  I am pretty confident this was caused by a recent update because the network interface went down while updating.  Any idea how I can begin to resolve this?  I am not having any trouble with my other vms
[15:01] <kantlivelong> glitchd: i didnt try b43 with the resume/suspend fix but i could i suppose.
[15:01] <jet1337> NehezvoltRegelni, maybe, you might create that folder in another place, then create symlink for it in /var/run ?
[15:01] <kantlivelong> glitchd: not sure what the issue would be if it not the driver though
[15:02] <glitchd> kantlivelong, true
[15:02] <kantlivelong> glitchd: possibly an EFI/ACPI issue but not sure where id go
[15:03] <glitchd> well im outta ideas, sry
[15:03] <kantlivelong> glitchd: thx :)
[15:03] <gnomeubuntu> hi
[15:03] <\9> glitchd: you could use a live session to reset the password
[15:04] <styler2go> anyone?
[15:04] <\9> err whoops
[15:04] <\9> NiteRaidah: i don't know what else you could use to bring up the boot menu but a live session at least should help
[15:04] <NiteRaidah> that just involves rebooting with the usb, right?
[15:05] <\9> yeah
[15:05] <spider_x> Hey guys, I get a "Sorry, Ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error." and the executable path is  /usr/bin/gnome-software but gnome continues to work just fine?
[15:05] <NiteRaidah> okay, cool.  I'll see if that works.
[15:05] <spider_x> Currently apt-get update / dist-upgrading
[15:05] <\9> NiteRaidah: see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery for instructions
[15:05] <NiteRaidah> thank you :)
[15:05] <kantlivelong> NiteRaidah: boot livecd, mount & chroot, change pw
[15:06] <jet1337> NerdJuice, maybe it will help you https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323253
[15:06] <\9> NiteRaidah: the instructions say to use passwd to reset the administrative password. you can set your user password with "passwd <username>"
[15:07] <NiteRaidah> okay.
[15:07] <glitchd> \9, huh?
[15:07] <\9> glitchd: sorry, nevermind
[15:08] <glitchd> \9, lol np
[15:08] <hackester> Hey I'm getting trouble with wifi
[15:08] <glitchd> hackester, so hack it?
[15:08] <hackester> glitchd, that's not the problem ... :P
[15:09] <hackester> glitchd, wifi adapter is not detecting in Ubuntu ...
[15:09] <hackester> glitchd , I have doul booted it with windows
[15:09] <glitchd> hackester, usb adapter or onboard?
[15:10] <kantlivelong> glitchd: hah. b43 works with suspend/resume. so its unrelated to bcmwl/b43
[15:10] <hackester> glitchd, onboard
[15:10] <hackester> glitchd, Qualcomm Atheros .
[15:11] <glitchd> kantlivelong, i dont follow, what do you mean?
[15:11] <kantlivelong> glitchd: with either module i get the same issue. so it appears that there may be some initialization issue on fresh boot. maybe due to EFI/ACPI
[15:13] <glitchd> kantlivelong, oh i see
[15:13] <NerdJuice> jet1337 Thank you but I do not want to disable this check.  I need to roll back whatever update broke the network adapter
[15:13] <glitchd> hackester, i had the same kind of card in my laptop and had all kinds of problems, i got rid of the card.
[15:14] <w9qbj> #openvpn
[15:14] <NerdJuice> How do I figure out which updates were installed with apt-get upgrade and how to roll them back?
[15:14] <glitchd> kantlivelong, the only other thing i can think of is to boot into windows, and instead of shutting down. do a restart and at grub select ubuntu to boot and see if its workign then
[15:15] <glitchd> hackester, you should do the same thing i just suggested to kantlivelong
[15:15] <kantlivelong> glitchd: if i had windows :)
[15:16] <glitchd> kantlivelong, lol awesome
[15:16] <glitchd> kantlivelong, i assumed you had win10, and figured it was causing problems
[15:16] <kantlivelong> havent used windows on personal stuff in over 15 years
[15:16] <glitchd> yea i gave it up in 2006
[15:16] <kantlivelong> just have never seen suspend actually fix something
[15:16] <hackester> glitchd, No it's not work..
[15:17] <glitchd> right around the time of 8.04 i believe
[15:17] <spider_x> Hey guys, I get a "Sorry, Ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error." and the executable path is  /usr/bin/gnome-software but gnome continues to work just fine?
[15:17] <hackester> glitchd, I tried using live boot by kali ...   same problem
[15:17] <kantlivelong> Red Hat 4 :)
[15:17] <glitchd> hackester, you booted windows and did a reboot instead of a shutdown and selected ubuntu at grub and its still not working?
[15:17] <glitchd> hackester, so you have windows 10 installed?
[15:18] <hackester> glitchd, yes i have window 10
[15:18] <kantlivelong> er wait not 4
[15:18] <MrJones> can the current ubuntu installer finally recognize existing luks and lvm partitions and reuse them without formatting? (e.g. to keep an encrypted /home from a different linux distribution)
[15:18] <glitchd> hackester, ok then do what i suggested please and see if it solves your problem
[15:18] <ikonia> MrJones: how do you expect that to work
[15:18] <ikonia> MrJones: it can't see inside them
[15:18] <glitchd> hackester, boot windows then reboot and see if it works then
[15:18] <kantlivelong> oh eah it was 4
[15:18] <kantlivelong> :)
[15:18] <MrJones> ikonia: don't be silly, fedora has had this since fedora 14 or something
[15:18] <MrJones> obviously it asks for the password during the install process
[15:19] <MrJones> (in case you indicate that you want to reuse it)
[15:19] <glitchd> kantlivelong, right on
[15:19] <ikonia> MrJones: right so if you can decrypt them it should be able to use them just fine, it can maintain the crypttab for other devices, so it should be fine
[15:19] <hackester> glitchd, not working ...
[15:19] <MrJones> ikonia: I know the ubuntu 15 installers definitely couldn't do this
[15:19] <MrJones> (the graphical ones)
[15:19] <ikonia> MrJones: nope, 16.04 should though
[15:20] <MrJones> therefore I was wondering if this was addressed
[15:20] <MrJones> basically if you click the encrypted partition there should be a button or option to use it and to enter the password
[15:20] <glitchd> hackester, that was super fast, did you actually boot windows10 then do a reboot and boot into linux and check?
[15:20] <ikonia> MrJones: I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I think you can do it if you can decrypt them outside of the other OS (eg: the key is not on the other OS disk that it can't read etc)
[15:20] <ikonia> MrJones: try it, I'd be interested in if you can do it
[15:21] <kantlivelong> glitchd: those were the dependency nightmare days
[15:21] <glitchd> kantlivelong, when it is working check lsmod and see what driver is loaded
[15:21] <hackester> glitchd, Yess, I did that ...
[15:21] <kantlivelong> good time to learn linux
[15:21] <glitchd> hackester, ok then
[15:21] <glitchd> kantlivelong, and do the same when its not working
[15:21] <MrJones> ikonia: ok. I'll have to do it this evening tho after doing some basic backups, because last time I managed to find a critical bug that deleted all my data without a warning =D
[15:22] <ntiy> hello #ubuntu. How does disk encryption work -- do users need to use separate passwords or its the same password that they use to authenticate?
[15:23] <ikonia> MrJones: certainly be interested in hearing your experience
[15:23] <kantlivelong> glitchd: just wl & cfg80211. no other deps
[15:23] <kantlivelong> glitchd: maybe another unrelated tho. can chk
[15:28] <NiteRaidah> \9: tried all that, didn't work.  ctrl-alt-f1 got me nowhere when I booted from the usb.
[15:28] <\9> .. wait why is the instructions saying to use ctrl+alt+f1..?
[15:29] <\9> NiteRaidah: try go into the "try ubuntu" session and use the terminal app
[15:29] <NiteRaidah> it's from this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[15:29] <\9> it's how i generally do this
[15:29] <JP___> What's the problem?
[15:29] <JP___> I have time to kill
[15:29] <anh> hiii
[15:29] <\9> JP___: NiteRaidah lost his password and cannot get to the grub menu to get to recovery mode
[15:30] <\9> so i suggested to use the live session instead
[15:30] <mrottenkolber> Hi, is there a way to make texlive accept svg images? I don't mean a special SVG package, it should just accept SVG like it accepts PNG etc.
[15:30] <JP___> Oh yeah, did that today.... Didn really work out
[15:30] <\9> it's very doable
[15:30] <JP___> Yeah, i tried without instructions
[15:31] <NiteRaidah> I don't know why it's being such a pain, unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious
[15:31] <JP___> But so NiteRaidah: did you manage to boot into recovery mode?
[15:31] <\9> NiteRaidah: the instructions are being garbage
[15:31] <NiteRaidah> JP____ can't do that.
[15:31] <JP___> Usually you can choose advanced options for ubuntu
[15:31] <JP___> And you get a list
[15:31] <\9> i didn't notice it told to use ctrl+alt+f1 which is pretty stupid
[15:31] <JP___> In your grub
[15:31] <\9> JP___: but he doesn't use the grub menu
[15:32] <JP___> y no grub :p
[15:32] <NiteRaidah> who knows.
[15:32] <NiteRaidah> at any rate I'm in the live session right now with terminal going.
[15:32] <JP___> But yeah you should be able to restore your passwd using either live cd or recovery mode
[15:33] <JP___> \9 : Can 't he chroot to his root install?
[15:33] <\9> JP___: that's what i'm trying to guide him to do
[15:33] <\9> NiteRaidah: do you know which partition your system is on?
[15:33] <\9> /dev/sda1 or something else=
[15:33] <\9> NiteRaidah: if not you can type in e.g. 'df' to find this
[15:34] <rustymyers> hi all, weird issue here that I don't understand. running on a virtualbox vm and ubuntu server. system is reporting filesystem is out of space, but df shows only 66% used. Deleting files allows for creation of new files, but quickly fills up and fails. any suggestions on troubleshooting?
[15:34] <\9> NiteRaidah: er, not df but 'lsblk'
[15:34] <NiteRaidah> what should I be looking for?
[15:34] <\9> NiteRaidah: the partition that your system is installed onto
[15:35] <\9> NiteRaidah: it should probably be /dev/sda1
[15:35] <JP___> \9: if he doesn have grub, then there is probably only one partition
[15:35] <\9> yeah i think it's safe to guess it's sda1
[15:35] <\9> NiteRaidah: now type in this: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[15:35] <NiteRaidah> it's the only OS running on the laptop, so
[15:35] <\9> let's assume that sda1 is the os partition
[15:35] <JP___> rustymyers: do you have a vmk disc?
[15:36] <NiteRaidah> sda's the os partition, I think.  at least per the size (465.8G)
[15:37] <JP___> yeah sounds about right
[15:37] <\9> NiteRaidah: did you run the mount command?
[15:37] <NiteRaidah> typed sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, nothing happened
[15:37] <\9> it doesn't print anything
[15:37] <NiteRaidah> no.
[15:38] <gswallow> When creating an LVM thin pool volume, is there a minimum recommended ratio of metadata area vs data area?
[15:38] <\9> NiteRaidah: you can type » ls /mnt » to see the contents of it
[15:38] <rustymyers> JP___ looks like I do, extension is .vmdk. Virtualbox issue?
[15:38] <\9> should have a bunch of system dirs
[15:39] <\9> NiteRaidah: now use: chroot /mnt
[15:39] <\9> sudo chroot /mnt, i mean
[15:40] <NiteRaidah> hold on - retyped sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and got '/dev/sdal is already mounting or /mnt busy' and '
[15:40] <NiteRaidah> gah
[15:40] <\9> so it's already mounted
[15:40] <NiteRaidah> Guess so
[15:40] <\9> mount doesn't print anything when it does it successfully
[15:40] <NiteRaidah> chroot /mnt now then?
[15:40] <gswallow> cd / ?
[15:41] <\9> NiteRaidah: yeah, sudo chroot /mnt
[15:42] <NiteRaidah> 'cannot change root directory to '/mnt' : Operation not permitted'
[15:42] <NiteRaidah> what
[15:42] <\9> did you use sudo?
[15:42] <NiteRaidah> oh
[15:42] <NiteRaidah> oops
[15:42] <ikonia> nzconf: is your connection stable now ?
[15:43] <gswallow> Like...is 5% of the VG enough for metadata?
[15:43] <tigerstyle> hey i want to install the numix-icon-theme-circle through ppa, but i get this The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:43] <tigerstyle>  numix-icon-theme-circle : Depends: numix-icon-theme but it is not installable
[15:43] <tigerstyle> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[15:43] <tigerstyle> any workaround?
[15:43] <nzconf> ikonia, yes
[15:43] <NiteRaidah> 'failed to run command '/bin/bash' :No such file or directory'
[15:43] <gswallow> I imagine it depends on the rate of change in the data area
[15:43] <ikonia> nzconf: super
[15:43] <nzconf> ikonia, thanks for caring
[15:43] <gswallow> NiteRaidah: ls /mnt/bin/bash
[15:44] <Slown> Hello everybody
[15:44] <MEGAx> hello
[15:44] <Slown> I just want to know if there is an option to create a local mirror
[15:44] <NiteRaidah> keeps telling me there's no such file or directory
[15:44] <Slown> I mean I have 3 machines whith ubuntu
[15:44] <gswallow> Copy it from /bin/bash :)
[15:44] <Slown> different flavours
[15:44] <Slown> and I don't want to download the packages every time
[15:44] <gswallow> Niteraidah: sudo cp /bin/bash /mnt/bin/bash
[15:45] <Slown> is there any solution to have just one machine downloading the updates
[15:45] <ikonia> Slown: create a local caching repo/proxy
[15:45] <Slown> and act as a source for other machines on my network
[15:45] <Slown> ?
[15:45] <Slown> ikonia, do you have a link for that ?
[15:45] <ikonia> Slown: sorry no
[15:45] <NiteRaidah> gswallow: 'cannot create regular file '/mnt/bin/bash': No such file or directory'
[15:46] <gswallow> sudo mkdir /mnt/bin
[15:46] <gswallow> sorry
[15:46] <ikonia> what is the point of chrooting to something that doesn't have the files there
[15:46] <ikonia> why bother ?
[15:46] <gswallow> right
[15:46] <ikonia> if it's not got the files there, what's the value in chrooting
[15:46] <gswallow> there's a jailtool, too
[15:46] <gswallow> I haven't created a jail in a long time (did it by hand on Solaris last time)
[15:47] <gswallow> At this point, run docker :)
[15:47] <NiteRaidah> terminal didn't print anything.  I suppose that's progress over telling me there's no file or directory :/
[15:47] <JP___> rustymyers: is your disk dynamically or statically allocated?\
[15:47] <gswallow> @NiteRaidah: sudo cp /bin/bash /mnt/bin/bash
[15:47] <gswallow> then try sudo chroot /mnt
[15:47] <ikonia> NiteRaidah: what are you actually trying to achieve here
[15:47] <ikonia> NiteRaidah: what is your end goal ?
[15:47] <rustymyers> JP___ dynamically
[15:47] <NiteRaidah> reset my password, ikonia
[15:47] <\9> wait. how come /bin/bash doesn't exist on a working system?
[15:48] <JP___> He needs to restore his password @ ikonia
[15:48] <ikonia> NiteRaidah: you don't need to do any of that then
[15:48] <NiteRaidah> can't boot from the grub menu for whatever reason
[15:48] <ikonia> why are you trying to chroot
[15:48] <\9> ikonia: he can't get to recovery mode
[15:48] <JP___> rustymyers: maybe there is a disk-space limit on your disk
[15:48] <ikonia> just mount the file system and modify the shaow file
[15:48] <ikonia> no need to chroot
[15:48] <\9> why would you ever directly modify the shadow file
[15:48] <ikonia> and if you don't have bash in your chroot then you won't have passwd to reset your password
[15:49] <ikonia> \9: to remove the password hash and allow you to login
[15:49] <\9> but why isn't there bash in a working system?
[15:49] <ikonia> \9: I don't know, hence why I'm asking the question why he's going through all this hassle
[15:49] <gswallow> \9: there is.  /mnt/bin was missing
[15:49] <ikonia> he's got /bin on a seperate file system ?
[15:49] <ikonia> that seems very unlikley on a modern system
[15:49] <gswallow> I assume he's booting a recovery cd
[15:50] <\9> ikonia: indeed
[15:50] <ikonia> right, but he's mounting HIS file system, which means /bin should not be on a seperate mount point
[15:50] <\9> maybe it's not the os partition after all?
[15:50] <NiteRaidah> I'm booting from my usb, currently using the live user session
[15:50] <gswallow> lvchange -ay?
[15:50] <\9> hey do we even know that it is the os partition? maybe it's something else
[15:50] <ikonia> gswallow: what ???
[15:50] <ikonia> gswallow: now he's using lvm ???
[15:50] <ikonia> gswallow: do you actually know his system
[15:50] <gswallow> guessing that his root partition is lvm
[15:50] <ikonia> gswallow: then stop
[15:51] <ikonia> gswallow: stop guessing you are giving him bad info
[15:51]  * gswallow steps aside
[15:52] <ubuntunewbie> hi new to linux
[15:54] <ubuntunewbie> linux was great
[15:54] <ikonia> ubuntunewbie: hi, you're in #ubuntu an IRC channel for ubuntu technical suport
[15:54] <ikonia> support
[15:54] <ikonia> ubuntunewbie: if you type /topic you should be able to see info on the channels topic and rules
[15:54] <ubuntunewbie> oh sorry i didn't know
[15:54] <ikonia> no problem at all
[15:55] <MarcAnthony> hi! we just got one server down (motherboard issue) then we had our drive transfered to another server. But when booting, kernel panic occurs. Is there a way to solve it?
[16:00] <ikonia> MarcAnthony: depends on why it panic'd
[16:03] <MarcAnthony> ikonia> the matter is we plugged the drive on the server, then grubs seems to work normally but when it came to boot the kernel we got::: kernel panic not syncing attempted to kill init!:::: with some mount error message!
[16:04] <genii> Drive geometry is likely different on the other controller
[16:15] <MEGAx> pershendetje
[16:17] <caravena> Help with report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1650918
[16:21] <tomreyn> caravena: /j #ubuntu+1
[16:21] <kang0> Where's black Knight
[16:27] <nicomachus> kang0: what?
[16:30] <kang0> He was guy online few days back
[16:30] <kang0> NickG365
[16:30] <kang0> nicomachus
[16:32] <nicomachus> !pm | kang0
[16:39] <thec^> c.swipnet.se
[16:50] <kang0> Thec^ What's it
[16:50] <bartden> hi, how can i make newly created files in a folder keep the same permissions for user and group?
[16:51] <kang0> Puppy isn't working in tablet as not touch compatible?
[16:52] <Pici> kang0: puppy?
[16:52] <kang0> Isn't it Linux?
[16:52] <kang0> Pici
[16:52] <Pici> kang0: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  Not puppy linux.  Try ##linux or see if they have their own channel.
[16:53] <kang0> Anyone using ubuntu with tablet?
[16:53] <ikonia> kang0: what's your problem ?
[16:54] <nacc> bartden: 'keep the same permissions'? you mean forever?
[16:54] <bartden> nacc yes inheritance of rights based on the rights of the top folder
[16:55] <nacc> bartden: that's not the same as my question -- so you want at *creation* time, files created in a directory to have the same permissions (ownership, too?) as the directory they are created in?
[16:55] <nacc> bartden: *and* you want that to be enforced forever?
[16:55] <nacc> bartden: and what about nested folders?
[16:56] <bartden> same requirement
[16:56] <bartden> yes at creation time, forever … i’m root i can still change it i guess
[16:56] <nacc> bartden: i mean, did you think about it? what is 'top' folder? the nearest?
[16:56] <nacc> bartden: or it will always be /
[16:57] <bartden> e.g. /x/y where x is topfolder
[16:58] <nacc> bartden: so nearest?
[16:58] <bartden> and y should inherit permissions from x , y can be folder or file and y can contain another folder or file if y is a folder
[16:58] <bartden> i guess spo
[16:58] <bartden> so*
[17:00] <nacc> bartden: i don't think that's possible with purely perm bits. You would need to use ACLs. If anyone knows otherwise, please cmiiw
[17:00] <bartden> nacc and what about umask? does subfolder inherit the umask from topfolder?
[17:02] <nacc> bartden: umask is for permission bits only and is a process-wide thing
[17:02] <nacc> bartden: it's not a filesystem thing
[17:02] <nacc> bartden: in that it's not stored in the filesystem
[17:02] <bartden> hmm ok
[17:03] <nacc> bartden: you may want to read `man umask` and `man acl`
[17:03] <nacc> bartden: but it feels like you may be misundersatnding how fs permissions work
[17:03] <bartden> ok, i’ll get into that
[17:03] <bartden> thanks for the jelp
[17:03] <bartden> *help
[17:03] <nacc> bartden: what is your eventual end goal? this seems very specific and possibly hard to achive?
[17:04] <bartden> I want multiple users to be able to access data, each user can have specific access needs (e.g. rw,r,w,rx,wx,x,rwx)
[17:05] <nacc> bartden: that's not really achievable with permission bits only
[17:05] <bartden> and if a process writes files to the folder or creates subfolder i want them to havve the same default permissions all the time
[17:05] <nacc> bartden: there are ony three categories of permissions (user, group and other)
[17:05] <nacc> (user == owner)
[17:05] <bartden> owner by userx,groupy and perms 740 for example
[17:06] <bartden> yes but i can combine users with same permissions into a certain group, but in standaard posix i only have 1 group … so i need acl’s indeed
[17:06] <nacc> bartden: right
[17:06] <nacc> bartden: and then, to be clear, you are *not* saying multiple users to have needs, but multiple groups
[17:07] <bartden> ok
[17:07] <chinmay_> ji
[17:10] <ARMWorksiMac1> I have an Ubuntu 14 on 8 core AMD. After an update, it boots to a low res password screen and says my password is no good. I can not make it stop in grub. The file system will mount with a live cd.
[17:10] <bartden> ok thx nacc
[17:10] <bartden> bye
[17:11] <ARMWorksiMac1> When I tried a DVD wiht a "grub fixer" it looks more like the PW works but the process loops back to the password prompt.
[17:11] <ARMWorksiMac1> Don't know where to go from here.
[17:12] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: you need to delete you .xlock files from your home, I've seen this many times
[17:14] <vlt> Hello. I have mounted a disk with an ecryptfs in another machine. I am in /home/me now and try to run ecrypts-umount-private but as root I get "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly" and as the user I get "open: Permission denied \n Error locking counter". Any idea how to proceed now?
[17:18] <vfw> ARMWorksiMac1: Can you elaborate on "After an update"?
[17:18] <ARMWorksiMac1> vfw: I let the system run an update and it wanted to do a restart. I usually use apt and do this kind of thing from the terminal.
[17:20] <ARMWorksiMac1> I will try the .xlock. I hope it is that easy.
[17:21] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: I'll bet you a beer it is.
[17:21] <ARMWorksiMac1> vfw: BTW, on the restart, it said there were system errors or problems or something. It didn't run fsck as far as I noticed.
[17:27] <cerion> vlt: are you sure you don't want to ecryptfs-mount-private instead ?
[17:28] <nacc> cerion: good catch
[17:33] <koldi> hi
[17:34] <koldi> can someone help me out ?
[17:34] <koldi> darn
[17:34] <koldi> ah man
[17:34] <koldi> sucks
[17:34] <koldi> okay, I'll keep looking
[17:35] <ARMWorksiMac1> vlt: which files are .xlock files?
[17:36] <nacc> !ask | koldi
[17:36] <stan_man_can> Hey. I'm trying to burn a windows ISO to a USB drive. When I select the ISo in Startup Disk Creator though it just...doesn't put it in the list.
[17:37] <koldi> okay so, can I ask ?
[17:37] <koldi> ahaaa
[17:37] <koldi> okay, it's a looong one
[17:37] <koldi> I used . .. one moment, let me frame this
[17:37] <nacc> koldi: please just follow ubottu's advice (and stop the chatter)
[17:40] <vlt> cerion, ARMWorksiMac1: Yes, _mount_, of course :-D  ... I’ll fire up a virtual machine now. Thank you!
[17:41] <core_x250> what is the code to install steam
[17:41] <koldi> I have windows 8.1 and ubuntu 16.04 installed on two different partitions, I used EasyBCD, and managed to delete the Windows 8.1 entry, so all I get now is the Ubuntu ( I fixed that through bootrepair ) and I want to get windows 8.1 entry, so I can load in to it. I think I accidentaly removed the win 8.1 entry with the darn EasyBCD
[17:42] <nacc> core_x250: apt install steam
[17:42] <nacc> core_x250: if you have the partner repo enabled
[17:42] <core_x250> thx
[17:42] <nacc> core_x250: err, not partner, multiverse, sorry
[17:42] <core_x250> iknow lol i just need the code
[17:42] <koldi> anyone can help me out ? am I making any sence ?
[17:43] <pavlos> core_x250, sudo apt update && sudo apt install steam
[17:44] <vfw> koldi:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:44] <koldi> I'm gonna read it, thank you
[17:45] <core_x250> one last Q how can i uninstall programs in ubuntu
[17:45] <nacc> core_x250: use software center or `apt remove <pkgname>`
[17:46] <core_x250> ok thx
[17:47] <Sabotender> greetings. I am hoping I can get something good out of this distro. Here is what I am looking for: Legacy install (no UEFI), Cinnamon DE install option direct from installer, hopefully wireless detection from the installer, encrypted drive via LVM/Luks
[17:47] <Sabotender> if wireless is not detectible, then an offline option would be good too
[17:48] <Sabotender> debian couldn't even load so I am trying here instead
[17:48] <nacc> Sabotender: try the live usb of your distro of choice?
[17:48] <Sabotender> nacc: the live version isnt the problem. live cds load just fine. I want to install to the hard drive
[17:49] <nacc> Sabotender: i'm guessing you want mint actually, though, if you want cinnamon in the installer?
[17:49] <Sabotender> I dont want mint
[17:49] <nacc> Sabotender: if the live cd loads fine, then the distribution has wireless support
[17:49] <nacc> Sabotender: depending on what you meant by "fine"
[17:49] <Sabotender> I moved away from mint because it uses OLD kernels and theres no easy way to upgrade
[17:50] <Sabotender> nacc: trust me, the live version and the installer's concept of support for wireless is vastly different
[17:50] <nacc> Sabotender: i suppose you can specify that cinnamon get installed at install-time manually, but i don't think it's an 'option' in the installer
[17:50] <nacc> Sabotender: at least not for stock ubuntu, but i might be wrong
[17:51] <nacc> Sabotender: are you using vastly different live version and installed versions (e.g., 16.04.0 and 16.04.1)? Otherwise, no, they aren ot.
[17:51] <deus402> i'm setting up encfs, and I am looking for speed / cpu performance more than security. i selected the blowfish cipher with 128bit key, but i'm not sure which block size will give me better performance. i'm inclined to think 4096 bytes would be better so it's doing more at once, but this is purely speculation.
[17:53] <koldi> okay so, basicaly this picture is my problem https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/40u7pn/help_ruined_my_bootloader_with_easybcd/
[17:54] <koldi> aaand, I wanna be able to log in to windows 8.1 again. I'm not yet good enough at using Ubuntu so I need to rely on this Windows thing for a few months longer
[17:54] <koldi> thanks for the link nacc but I need some specific help here
[17:54] <linuxuser9> koldi: can you get into ubuntu?
[17:54] <vfw> koldi: Use grub.  Probably all you need to do is grub-install <primary-hdd-here>
[17:54] <koldi> yeah, I'm in ubuntu now
[17:54] <linuxuser9> yeah reinstall grub
[17:55] <koldi> okay, okay, how do I do that ?
[17:55] <koldi> I wrecked it with a third program , easybcd so I'm thinking this bastard is interfeering
[17:55] <vfw> !boot | koldi
[17:55] <koldi> so, walk me through it
[17:55] <Sabotender> nacc: for example, the installer doesn't support tethering usb for internet. I tried that and it killed the tethering connection
[17:56] <koldi> uhhhm, sure, I can do that, but, could you walk me through it ? I'm kind of green here
[17:56] <Sabotender> seems if you aren't using a wireless nic which supports free firmware, its a flip of a coin whether or not yours will work in the installer
[17:56] <koldi> and I don't mean environmentaly
[17:56] <Sabotender> is there an ubuntu-cinnamon installer available? I don't want gnome or unity
[17:56] <koldi> I know how to open the Terminal so . . . there's that (:
[17:57] <vfw> koldi: sudo update-grub
[17:57] <vfw> koldi: sudo grub-install /dev/sd· replacing sd· with the disk you will boot from.
[17:57] <vfw> koldi: So it's probably /dev/sda Right?
[17:57] <koldi> yep
[17:58] <koldi> it is
[17:58] <koldi> I don't know on which one it is though
[17:58] <vfw> koldi: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[17:58] <koldi> I have . . . 7 partitions
[17:58] <vfw> koldi: On one HD?
[17:58] <koldi> only three I store files too , others are some . . . boot loading bla bla, I don't know
[17:58] <koldi> on one Hd, on this pc that I'm writing to you from
[17:58] <vfw> koldi: sudo fdisk -l |& nc termbin.com 9999
[17:59] <vfw> koldi: Show us resulting URL
[17:59] <vfw> koldi: But yes, it will be /dev/sda
[17:59] <koldi> http://termbin.com/f3ub
[18:00] <koldi> what do you think Doc, can we save her (:
[18:00] <vfw> koldi: ...which will write the grub boot loader to the master boot record of your primary hard drive, (which in this case is your only hard drive).
[18:00] <vfw> Let me look
[18:00] <nacc> Sabotender: what does tethering USB have to do with wireless support? I said if the installer support something, then the installed OS does. Not necessarily the other way around (by default)
[18:00] <koldi> exactly, I'm following ya
[18:00] <koldi> I'm just very very new
[18:00] <koldi> so what do I need to do ?
[18:01] <vfw> koldi: Yes, it will be /dev/sda
[18:01] <koldi> okay
[18:01] <koldi> what's the commant
[18:01] <koldi> command
[18:01] <vfw> koldi: sudo update-grub
[18:01] <bashito> hello
[18:02] <vfw> koldi: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[18:02] <koldi> Generating grub configuration file ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-31-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-31-generic Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda2@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration done
[18:02] <vfw> koldi: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[18:02] <koldi> it's installing now
[18:03] <koldi> okay, instalation complete, no error found
[18:03] <koldi> is that it ?
[18:03] <vfw> yep
[18:03] <koldi> so I restart my super awesome maschine and, it should be cool ?
[18:03] <vfw> koldi: Correct.  You shold see options for MS Windows and Ubuntu
[18:04] <koldi> let me go check
[18:08] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: I'm not findi a .xlock file. Is this a generic term f a collceon o files?
[18:08] <ARMWorksiMac1> for a collection of
[18:12] <Arunangshu> hi
[18:13] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: sorry, wrong name, it's .Xauthority
[18:13] <koldi> hi all, I'm back, it did not work
[18:13] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: it's a hidden file, so you'll probably need to use the terminal or hit ctrl-h in your file manager
[18:14] <koldi> vfw you there man ?
[18:15] <Arunangshu> i am trying to install skype on elementary os but system is stating lib32asound2 is missing . Please help me out
[18:15] <nacc> !elementary | Arunangshu
[18:15] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral I use ls -a
[18:16] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: I see .xsession-errors, etc.
[18:16] <Arunangshu> ubottu:i known but i didn't find any help there
[18:16] <vfw> koldi: Yes
[18:16] <koldi> hey man, it did not work
[18:17] <koldi> I get the same purple ubuntu boot load screen
[18:17] <vfw> koldi: So what hard drive is your computer booting to?
[18:17] <koldi> okay, how do I find that out ?
[18:17] <koldi> I don't knwo
[18:17] <nacc> Arunangshu: it's not really an issue for this channel, if they are not responsive...
[18:17] <vfw> koldi: "same purple ubuntu boot load screen"?
[18:17] <koldi> okay so
[18:17] <nacc> Arunangshu: in Ubuntu, skype does not depend on that ancient package.
[18:17] <koldi> I started this because I wanted to be able to have TWO OS-es on my maschine
[18:18] <koldi> windows 8.1 and ubuntu 16.04
[18:18] <koldi> both of these things are installed on my hard disk
[18:18] <vfw> koldi: Please continue.  On one line...
[18:18] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: but no .xlock
[18:18] <koldi> windows 8.1 was working great
[18:18] <koldi> and ubuntu too
[18:18] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: This is my dir, not /home
[18:19] <koldi> but when I installed ubuntu from a usb drive, it wasn't automaticaly added to my boot load
[18:19] <koldi> the maschine just automatically went to 8.1 windows without giving me the option to choose
[18:19] <koldi> so I started tweeking
[18:19] <Arunangshu> nacc: As far as i know elementary os is base on ubuntu .sowhat can i do to slove this issue
[18:19] <koldi> okay, so I'm tweeking
[18:19] <nacc> Arunangshu: it is a derivative, as ubottu's snippet told you. Sorry, can't help you with it.
[18:20] <koldi> I get to this windows program called EasyBCD and in this you can add  a boot entry for the Ubuntu that you installed
[18:20] <koldi> so I do that
[18:20] <koldi> and when I select it on my next boot load, after the restart, it leads to nowhere
[18:20] <koldi> it doesn't load Ubuntu
[18:20] <koldi> BUUUUT
[18:20] <koldi> when I'm on the boot load
[18:20] <koldi> I hit ESC
[18:20] <koldi> and I get this BIOS screen
[18:20] <koldi> that shows me Ubuntu
[18:21] <koldi> so I select that
[18:21] <koldi> and I get to this recognizable purple ubuntu screen with a few options on it
[18:21] <vfw> koldi: Please stop using Enter key for puncuation.
[18:22] <vfw> koldi: So when you choose to boot Ubuntu, it boots up to a purple ubuntu screen with a few options on it?
[18:22] <koldi> aha, okay. so I go there, it's a purple screen, the first option is Ubuntu, the other options are system settings, than one is memory check , than there is some MOB thing
[18:22] <koldi> yes. and that's how I get to my Ubuntu, and now I am in my Ubuntu OS
[18:22] <vfw> koldi: So did it boot Ubuntu up for you ok?
[18:23] <koldi> I now, have to use some method, to add, 8.1 to this purple screen, so I can load in to both systems, both OSs whenever I want
[18:23] <koldi> yes it did, Ubuntu works
[18:23] <koldi> but many of my friends use Windows, and they stay on windows, and my company uses Windows, and I need to be able to use both systems
[18:23] <vfw> koldi: So what happens when you choose Windows 8 to boot?
[18:24] <koldi> okay, so when I choose that, it takes me to this black screen, that EasyCDR or, EasyMDR(whatever it's called ) thing added
[18:24] <koldi> so this program is overwriting the entry to windows and now I can't get past that black screen
[18:24] <vfw> koldi: So which is it CDR or MDR?
[18:24] <koldi> I think I need to manually add an entry for windows. if I was to reinstall windows , it would do it automaticaly, the instalation
[18:25] <koldi> wait a moment, I'll link you
[18:25] <vfw> koldi: Oh, that's the third party boot loader you installed?
[18:25] <vfw> koldi: Yes, send a link
[18:25] <koldi> yes
[18:25] <koldi> EasyBCD https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[18:26] <koldi> so I think I clicked something " reset entries on next boot load " while I was in windows and now, , ,pooof, can't get in to windows
[18:26] <vfw> koldi: So, did you buy the EasyBCD software?
[18:26] <koldi> this is what I get now when I select Windows https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/40u7pn/help_ruined_my_bootloader_with_easybcd/ except mine is  File: BCD
[18:26] <koldi> well
[18:27] <koldi> that is the question . . . I think you know the answer to that
[18:27] <koldi> nope, didn't buy the software
[18:27] <nacc> ... so help with pirated software? not gonna happen.
[18:27] <koldi> aaaaah, this thing ends here now than right ?
[18:28] <koldi> darn, should have thought this thing through
[18:28] <koldi> (: well, being stupid costs money, okay, I'll keep googling,
[18:29] <vfw> koldi: A google search gave us this:  https://www.think-like-a-computer.com/2015/04/17/boot-bcd-0xc000000f-windows-7/
[18:31] <koldi> I'm reading (:
[18:31] <foo> Err, this is frustrating. I'm having a strange issue I haven't seen before, and I don't believe I've changed any configs that would cause this. If I drop 1 or 2 packets, my ssh connections freeze and don't come back. I'm certain I've lost packets in the past and ssh session may just freeze for a sec or so, but never completely freeze. Anyone know if there is a setting I can check for this or something? Thank you
[18:32] <vfw> koldi: The reason lots of people use free/open-source software is because it works.  It would be a lot easier if you just ditch Windows 8 and continue to use Ubuntu.  If you need MS Windows, just install it in a VM.
[18:32] <xxxx> i install ARandR for monitors and now cannot edit (no matter what i do, just hdmi screen works)
[18:32] <koldi> vfw that's my plan
[18:32] <xxxx> lubuntu*
[18:32] <vfw> !info virtualbox | koldi
[18:33] <koldi> I'm gonna do it but, this is like getting of crack man, you can't just get off it immediately, you first take lesser dosages and than you stop taking it completley
[18:33] <koldi> okay this link you gave me is making a lot of sence, I'm gonna keep reading, I hope it helps, if it doesn't . . . I still have my Ubuntu, so life is good
[18:35] <vfw> koldi: Fixing EasyBCD is [unfortunately] beyond the scope of this channel. (Many of us know a lot about Ubuntu but little-to-none know much about EasyBCD).
[18:36] <xxxx> -.- cannot view display on pc, just in HDMI monitor... wtf?
[18:36] <vfw> ... probably none :(
[18:38] <vfw> xxxx: ARandR?
[18:38] <xxxx> vfw: for dual monitor, lubuntu.
[18:38] <vfw> xxxx: Oh, it is a front-end for xrandr?
[18:39] <xxxx> if you google it, doesnt exist, just like this google> "arandr" (with the " " )
[18:39] <xxxx> i suposed
[18:39] <vfw> xxxx: Well, you should see options to take you back to the other output.
[18:39] <xxxx> doesnot work
[18:39] <vfw> !info ARandR | xxxx
[18:40] <xxxx> make the 2 monitors black
[18:40] <xxxx> oh
[18:40] <vfw> !xrandr | xxxx
[18:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[18:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> strafike1, sverigie
[18:42] <noobiee> hi ubuntu I have two ubuntu machines...in one machines I have so many files which are more than 100GB how can I transfer them to other machine through internet or intranet ?
[18:42] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: sorry, i was busy, um it should be .Xauthority in your personal /home/username
[18:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> strafike1, vad ar du
[18:42] <vfw> xxxx: Just type xrandr with no arguments and see what you get
[18:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> noobiee, hmm  a local area network via
[18:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ntp
[18:43] <nacc> noobiee: scp or rsync? but transfering 100s of GBs of data over the network may not be the best idea
[18:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no not tht
[18:43] <noobiee> nacc:  I have no exterbnal hdd
[18:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> network transfer protocall or something, or samba
[18:43] <vfw> xxxx:   So when you boot up, what do you see on the screen when it's finished?
[18:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !nfp
[18:43] <nacc> noobiee: ok, scp or rsync would do it then
[18:43] <noobiee> I am windows corruptt and running one machine with live ubuntu mode
[18:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !samba
[18:43] <nacc> SebthreeBQM10HD: not necessary for this question, afaict
[18:44] <noobiee> scp would take lot of time right?
[18:44] <xxxx> one thing, cannot turn off or reboot (i just give up on try to fix this)
[18:44] <noobiee> I run simplepython httpserver
[18:44] <noobiee> but they open on browser
[18:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> noobiee, noobiee yeah bingo scp should do it or rsync
[18:44] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: Same here. No joy after rm of .Xauthority.
[18:44] <xxxx> vfw: xrandr on terminal give me 36 lines... should i paste it?
[18:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nacc, ^^
[18:45] <noobiee> SebthreeBQM10HD:  for scp I need shh authentication ?
[18:45] <noobiee> ssh*
[18:45] <nacc> noobiee: i don't understand what 'simplepython httpserver' has to do with moving files
[18:45] <vfw> xxxx: xrandr |& nc termbin.com 9999  #Send us URL
[18:45] <noobiee> nacc: I can view all files
[18:45] <nacc> noobiee: ok?
[18:46] <nacc> noobiee: you're not clearly stating why you can't use scp or rsync, that is my advice to you to use.
[18:46] <xxxx> i no understand
[18:46] <vfw> xxxx: Define "one thing".
[18:46] <noobiee> nacc:  I dont know what is rsync is it default with ubuntu and for scp I should copy ssh public key to authorized keys right?
[18:47] <vfw> xxxx: My time here has ended.  I must go now.
[18:47] <vfw> Someone else please try and help xxxx
[18:47] <xxxx> one thing > "por cierto... algo tengo que decirte antes de que me hagas reiniciar el sistema"
[18:47] <nacc> !rsync | noobiee
[18:48] <nacc> noobiee: you can use key-based auth, yes, or password, whatever you want
[18:48] <xxxx> nope, its ok, i just read a phisical book
[18:48] <noobiee> nacc:  Ok
[18:48] <noobiee> scp * can copy all
[18:48] <xxxx> i just going to *
[18:48] <noobiee> ?
[18:50] <nacc> noobiee: ignore them
[18:51] <nacc> noobiee: yes, you can copy all files from a path to a path, please read `man scp` for details, but generally: scp -r /local/path/ user@host:/remote/path/
[18:51] <ARMWorksiMac1> Can one re-install just the boot partition in an Ubuntu 16 system?
[18:52] <nacc> ARMWorksiMac1: do you mean the bootloader? because the /boot partition is not something you install
[18:52] <noobiee> nacc:   Thanks but both host same :(
[18:52] <ARMWorksiMac1> nacc: Yes, I can not get into grub during boot.
[18:53] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: pastbin the output of ls -R /home/
[18:54] <nacc> noobiee: what??
[18:54] <noobiee> nacc:  port 22 also not open
[18:54] <nacc> noobiee: "I have two ubuntu machines"
[18:54] <noobiee> and both host same since same internet
[18:54] <nacc> noobiee: that was your exact problem statement
[18:56] <noobiee> nacc:  hat can i do now?
[18:56] <noobiee> what*
[18:57] <nacc> noobiee: you would need to install openssh-server on the remote machine, then use the IP addresses of the two hosts
[18:57] <nkr_> Working in terminal. How can I navigate - jump to 3/4 folders deep without typing out the entire string. Fingers are getting tired.
[18:57] <nacc> nkr_: <tab>?
[18:59] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: it is huge. one moment.
[18:59] <noobiee> nacc:  very poor internet here :( ok actually I am trying to copy just to back up as my ubuntu installation fails saying grub loader is not there
[19:00] <nacc> noobiee: i feel like you keep adding to the problem statement. Please state clearly (in one line) what your issue is
[19:00] <noobiee> Installation problem
[19:00] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[19:03] <noobiee> nacc:  I am installing again and when I get error I will copy and paste
[19:05] <ARMWorksiMac1> Can you use su from a live cd?
[19:05] <nacc> ARMWorksiMac1: you would use sudo in ubuntu
[19:05] <ARMWorksiMac1> Sudo won't allow write to a file on a mounted drive.
[19:10] <raynold> :-)
[19:10] <akik> ARMWorksiMac1: you can either fix the permissions on the mounted drive "sudo chown ..." or you can use "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[19:15] <noobiee> hi all I get "grub installation failed "
[19:16] <noobiee> The "grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into / target/. Without grub bootloader the installed system will not boot
[19:16] <noobiee> Please kindly someone helppppppppppppppp
[19:16] <noobiee> help*
[19:16] <unland> hi
[19:16] <unland> :)
[19:17] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: take your time
[19:17] <noobiee> nacc:  ^^
[19:19] <nacc> noobiee: i think you can drop to a shell fromthe installer and look at the logs
[19:19] <noobiee> nacc:  where can I checke those logs?
[19:20] <unland> :))))
[19:20] <noobiee> when I close the installer syatem is hanging
[19:20] <noobiee> and again I have to reinstall
[19:20] <unland> why
[19:20] <nacc> noobiee: from the installer, you go back to the main menu and drop to a shell, then look in /var/log, iirc
[19:20] <nacc> unland: stop the chitchat
[19:21] <nacc> unland: this is the ubuntu support channel, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:21] <xentity1x> Does anyone here have experience setting up a samba server? I followed the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!.
[19:22] <vfw> tA
[19:22] <xentity1x> When I try to connect to localhost with smbclient I get this error http://pastebin.com/VssmFvai
[19:25] <noobiee> nacc:   https://bpaste.net/show/f0ef1eab74cf
[19:26] <noobiee> https://bpaste.net/show/6f815e64ba9c  I get the following error some one help me to fix
[19:27] <noobiee> hi ??
[19:31] <nacc> xentity1x: did you check the smb logs?
[19:31] <nacc> noobiee: are those the only logs (boot.log)?
[19:31] <noobiee> yes
[19:31] <noobiee> i guess its not boot issue
[19:32] <noobiee> when I google I found http://askubuntu.com/questions/485008/ubuntu-14-04-install-grub-efi-amd64-signed-failed-to-install-into-target
[19:32] <nacc> noobiee: right, because it boots :) ... hrm, there are installer logs, i'm trying to remember where they go
[19:32] <noobiee> that url not ueful between''
[19:33] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: pastebin.com/WnEV5LPE
[19:33] <nacc> noobiee: did you try the suggestions?
[19:33] <ARMWorksiMac1> I trimmed a pile of documets, compilers and part libs to get under the pastebin limit.
[19:35] <noobiee> nacc:  I shuld try that in windiows? I am checking where in ubuntu
[19:35] <noobiee> because no windows now'
[19:36] <nacc> noobiee: well, some things in windoes, some things in bios
[19:37] <noobiee> nacc:  I have no windows now
[19:37] <noobiee> I am not knowing how
[19:37] <nacc> noobiee: secure boot, for instance, is a bios setting
[19:37] <nacc> noobiee: sorry, i really don't know what's wrong with your system
[19:38] <noobiee> so I should change in the bios settings?
[19:38] <noobiee> Ok Thanks nacc  I will check bios settings and res=install
[19:38] <noobiee> but takes long time again'so just want to know if I can do anything befor that
[19:40] <nmz787> why is ubuntu Kylin a thing? I mean, why isn't Chinese just a different locale?
[19:40] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: I derped on that.. sorry repeat with ls -la /~
[19:41] <nacc> nmz787: presumably becuase of 'complies with the Chinese government procurement regulations' ?
[19:43] <nacc> xentity1x: also, cursory googling indicates it might be a permission problem on the target path
[19:43] <nacc> xentity1x: cryptic error message for that
[19:43] <xentity1x> nacc, Thanks I saw all that. I was able to fix by reinstalling a third time.
[19:48] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: pastebin.com/JWLAdXZ5
[19:53] <MOUD> Hey all
[19:54] <MOUD> My speakers stopped working. How can I restard the sound service?
[19:54] <nacc> MOUD: try `pulseaudio -k`
[19:54] <ifvoid> how do I get a terminal dureing Ubuntu installation?
[19:54] <edaq> hey
[19:55] <MOUD> nacc, no, that didn't work
[19:55] <nacc> MOUD: does pulse show your speakers as being connected, etc.?
[19:55] <nacc> ifvoid: iirc, from the main menu you can drop to a shell
[19:55] <edaq> had a problem with installing ubuntu and bunsen labs on an ACER cloudbook 14, any help would be greatly appreciated
[19:55] <\9> are you sure your speakers aren't physically broken?
[19:55] <edaq> (after you sort out whatever you were already discussing)
[19:55] <ifvoid> nacc: how do I get to a main menu?  I just get a number of dialog boxes
[19:56] <MOUD> nacc, I don't know. But the speaker icon is visible
[19:56] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: it seriously doesn't exist? x.x hang on
[19:56] <nacc> ifvoid: 'back', or something?
[19:57] <nacc> MOUD: right, open the speaker icon, see if it thinks it is putting output on the sink, etc
[19:57] <ifvoid> just gets me back to the previous dialog
[19:57] <nacc> ifvoid: right, you'll ahve to go back all the way to the beginning
[19:57] <nacc> iirc
[19:57] <nacc> ifvoid: alternatively, if you're physically at the machine ctrl+alt+f2
[19:57] <ifvoid> I _am_ at th ebeginning
[19:58] <ifvoid> there is just "back" greyed out, "quit", and "continue"
[19:58] <ifvoid> and quit actually shiuts down the system
[19:58] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: ok, let's poke it... in term 'cd ~/ touch .Xauthority'
[19:59] <MOUD> nacc, The output tab show only "Speakers Built-In Audio". Also, when I use the "Test Sound" button, the sound is also mute, both left and right speakers.
[20:00] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: OK
[20:01] <hamdjan> hi
[20:01] <hamdjan> which raid controller do you recommend for ubuntu when you want to do a software raid?
[20:02] <hamdjan> i noticed my raid controller drops out randomly raid devices
[20:04] <blackflow>  hamdjan there's no raid controller if you do software raid
[20:04] <nacc> hamdjan: why does your raid controller matter if you do swraid? it's in software...
[20:05] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: I think you want this  pastebin.com/RfjmVFzB
[20:05] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: Whatever I was logging before was over 512K.
[20:06] <hamdjan> blackflow, because only with raid controllers you can get lots of sata ports by patching its firmware to *it mode*. then you get for e.g. a 2 SAS Port raid controller 8 sata ports
[20:07] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: no, after touching the file i want you to reboot that machine, please
[20:07] <ARMWorksiMac1> OK
[20:08] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: Same thing.
[20:08] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: ok. what gpu do you have?
[20:08] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: I can tell that it loops back to PW input quickly when PW is right, and slowly when PW is arong.
[20:08] <ARMWorksiMac1> AMD 8 core
[20:08] <ARMWorksiMac1> Oh, one moment.
[20:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[20:09] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: yea, and that smells like the .Xauthority issue..
[20:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[20:10] <nacc> SebthreeBQM10HD: do you have a support question?
[20:15] <jackgaming> hay
[20:17] <nermine> uu
[20:19] <love_21> i have ubuntu 16.04 64 bit but i coudn't install skype
[20:19] <love_21> ?
[20:20] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: GTX550Ti
[20:20] <Bashing-om> !info skype xenial
[20:21] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1, and what driver in use ? nouveau or nvidia ?
[20:21] <xentity1x> if i open a port with ufw does that port become closed again when i restart the machine?
[20:22] <love_21> ubottu: even i coudn't install when i add canonical 3rd parties softwares
[20:22] <MOUD> nacc, I tried a few things none of them worked. I finally restarted my computer and is working fine. Thanks for the support.
[20:24] <hamdjan> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60644
[20:24] <NeuhNeuh> Hello :)
[20:26] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: nouveau
[20:26] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: i dunno then, did the drivers update when you upgraded?
[20:27] <gartral> ARMWorksiMac1: then i'm at a loss
[20:27] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   sudo lshw -C Video | grep driver
[20:27] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: Don't know. I can check dates.
[20:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> love_21, skype ok
[20:28] <ARMWorksiMac1> gartral: driver=nouveau latency=0
[20:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> love_21, make sure  partner repos are enabled then should be able to download a older versiion
[20:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> love_21, well the LInux version is a oler version number etc,  but there's also a web versoin beta thing
[20:29] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   and you get a login loop ?
[20:29] <ARMWorksiMac1> Yep.
[20:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> love_21, there's a newer skype to , but not in repos
[20:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and in beta
[20:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I Think still
[20:29] <ARMWorksiMac1> On a sort of VGA res display instead of full res.
[20:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> love_21, don't  expect things to be as feature complete currently as the WIndows version either way, that's what I mean
[20:29] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   try nomodeset
[20:30] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   ot te Guest Account
[20:30] <ioria> * or the
[20:31] <gartral> ioria: it's acting like .Xauthority has the wrong token, which should be fixed by removing/touching .Xauthority
[20:31] <ubuntu-mate> hay
[20:31] <ubuntu-mate> hay
[20:31] <ioria> gartral, you can also remove that file, it will be recreated ...
[20:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ubuntu-mate, hi
[20:31] <ubuntu-mate> ???????
[20:31] <gartral> ioria: i told ARMWorksiMac1 to do that, it wasn't
[20:31] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[20:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[20:32] <ioria> gartral,  because X isn't started
[20:32] <ubuntu-mate> im instaling ubuntu mate 1 faild
[20:32] <ubuntu-mate> :(
[20:32] <ubuntu-mate> hope this one will
[20:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[20:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !details
[20:32] <ioria> gartral,  so, no Xauthority anywhere
[20:32] <ubuntu-mate> this is a live cd
[20:33] <gartral> ioria: but it was... he's putting in his pass and being returned to the login screen
[20:33] <NeuhNeuh> I have a problem with steam, I get this error :
[20:33] <NeuhNeuh> libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so
[20:33] <NeuhNeuh> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[20:33] <ioria> gartral,  lightdm not X
[20:33] <MOUD> Anyone knows how to fix the subtitle not appearing in VLC? The .srt file and the movie file are in the same folder. They also have the exact same name.
[20:33] <ioria> gartral,  lightdm fails to start X
[20:34] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: Guest session has test "log in" and if I clink on that the screen blanks and cycles back to login screen.
[20:34] <NeuhNeuh> I have already try to run  with steam native on 0, remove libc6 libraries into steam's lib directory, I have try both version of steam (on Ubuntu repo, and Steam repo)
[20:34] <ARMWorksiMac1> text
[20:34] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1, same loop ?
[20:35] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: Yes. Comes back to guest session log in.
[20:35] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: takes a while, same as when wrong PW is used.
[20:35] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  login in console with your username and paste   cat ~/.xsession-errors
[20:36] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: OK. I have boot live cd first I think.
[20:37] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  no need ....
[20:37] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  boot your install and ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2)
[20:37] <Bashing-om> love_21: Partner repo enabled, and datbase updated : " sysop@x1604:~$ apt list skype >> skype/xenial 4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 amd64 " is available in the repo .
[20:39] <nickname234> Hi. I have some server with sites, like www/site1.com, www/site2.com. I need to give ssh  access for one of the site for one person. Can I create such type of account?
[20:40] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: Can't do it. It flashes some term text and goes to log in. blank purple, flash of tect on black, purple loog in.
[20:40] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  try recovery then
[20:41] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  press shift after bios, and Advanced Options -> recovery
[20:41] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: shift will not get into grub
[20:41] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  try ESC
[20:42] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: worked!
[20:43] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: grub prompt
[20:43] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  nope
[20:43] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  it'a another thing
[20:43] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: OK. says grub>
[20:43] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  you need the grub menu not the grub shell
[20:44] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: know how to launch the menu from the shell?
[20:44] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  you can't
[20:44] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: can I run fsck?
[20:45] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  why ? you suspect a fs issue ?
[20:45] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: don;t know. Does it check the boot partiton at all?
[20:45] <nedbat> is there somewhere online I can find man pages for specific versions of Ubuntu? I'd like to compare pthread_create for Precise and Xenial.
[20:45] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  you don't have a boot issue but a video (X) issue
[20:46] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  you can get to the login screen .... right ?
[20:46] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: Ah. I let the system do "update" and this started on the restart.
[20:46] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: yes,
[20:47] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1, so, when you are there, open a console
[20:47] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1, ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2)
[20:48] <ubuntu-mate> hay
[20:49] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: got it
[20:49] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  cat ~/.xsession-errors
[20:49] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  cat ~/.xsession-errors |nc termbin.com 9999
[20:51] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: done
[20:51] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  the url ?
[20:51] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: 2bpi
[20:53] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  unity-settings-daemon main process (1581) killed by TERM signal
[20:54] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria saw that. What gives?
[20:55] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  the unity is not starting correctly
[20:56] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1, for now (as workaround ) you can install another DE  ... what have you done before the crash ?
[20:57] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria:  Just let it do update. I sually do all that in a terminal but let the system do it.
[20:57] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1, just updates ? nothing else ?
[20:57] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: right
[20:58] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  installed some ppa ?
[20:58] <ARMWorksiMac1> no
[20:58] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,  16.04 ? or what ?
[20:58] <ARMWorksiMac1> after, I used live cd and tared the FS.
[20:58] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: 16.04
[20:59] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   sudo apt update && and sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:59] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: sorry, 14.
[20:59] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   sudo apt-get update && and sudo apt-get dist-upgarde
[20:59] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: yeah, I was thinking that might be next now that I see I have  aterminal
[21:00] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   *upgrade
[21:00] <oodba>  how can I get latest filezilla on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[21:00] <oodba> what I have is 3.10
[21:01] <ioria> !info filezilla trusty
[21:02] <oodba> I added ppa:n-muench/programs-ppa2
[21:02] <oodba> still didnt get the latest one
[21:02] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   what it says the command ?
[21:05] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: update/upgrade going full speed
[21:05] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   ok
[21:10] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: booted and everything is sweetness and light.
[21:10] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   are we happy ?
[21:10] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: Yes. Nice job.
[21:11] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   ok, good job
[21:11] <ioria> ARMWorksiMac1,   have a nice one
[21:11] <ARMWorksiMac1> ioria: And learned some good stuff. Now, back to KiCAD and Anaconda.
[21:23] <T-Co> I'm trying to make an AMI and have added additional EBS volume. I now want to use cloud-config to make btrfs and mount it to /var/lib/docker before rancher kicks off docker install... I have tried to debug with cloud-init -d init but no avail
[21:23] <T-Co> I have 3 simple runcmd commands in an yml and AFAIK they are being read
[21:23] <T-Co> 2016-12-22 21:11:47,706 - util.py[DEBUG]: Reading from /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/45_fs_setup.cfg (quiet=False)
[21:23] <T-Co> 2016-12-22 21:11:47,706 - util.py[DEBUG]: Read 114 bytes from /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/45_fs_setup.cfg
[21:24] <T-Co> However, they are not run....
[21:24] <T-Co> Any pointers?
[21:25] <T-Co> Oh. Running on xenial
[21:26] <Pici> T-Co: you might get faster responses by asking in #ubuntu-server :)
[21:26] <T-Co> Pici, Thanks
[21:28] <raylankester> arrrghhhh... I can't get my stove to work... so I managed to unlock it, I set a time and a temperature
[21:28] <raylankester> but how do I make it glow red!!!!!
[21:28] <raylankester> I AM SO HUNGRY
[21:28] <raylankester> I just moved to a new house
[21:28] <raylankester> pls haalp
[21:29] <raylankester> this is ridiculous
[21:29] <bazhang> raylankester, this is ubuntu support
[21:30] <raylankester> I am sure some of you ppl have these new stoves
[21:30] <OerHeks> mom..
[21:30] <bazhang> !ot | raylankester
[21:30] <bazhang> not here raylankester take chit chat somewhere else
[21:30] <raylankester> the humanity!
[21:30] <raylankester> it is not chit chat though
[21:30] <raylankester> I am in dire need of human assistance
[21:31] <bazhang> raylankester, did you have an ubuntu support issue
[21:31] <zack_> hi
[21:32] <zack_> hay
[21:33] <zack_> hay
[21:33] <Pici> zack_: hi, we see you.
[21:33] <raylankester> ahhh! I solved it
[21:33] <\9> raylankester: this is not really the best place for human assistance
[21:33] <zack_> ok
[21:33] <raylankester> I just put the pot on the stove and it starts automatically
[21:33] <raylankester> when I set temperature and time
[21:33] <Pici> raylankester: this is #ubuntu, not ##cooking
[21:33] <mrchairman> This guy is looking for a terminal based count down timer, any suggestions?
[21:34] <\9> mrchairman: does 'wait' do?
[21:34] <\9> er, sleep
[21:34] <\9> not wait
[21:34] <mrchairman> \9, I want to be notified at the end
[21:34] <\9> use notify-send for that
[21:34] <\9> sleep 10 && notify-send "blah" for instance
[21:34] <blackflow> that ^^
[21:35] <mrchairman> thanks man!
[21:35] <\9> np
[21:35] <zack_> hY
[21:35] <mrchairman> works like a charm
[21:35] <bazhang> ubuntu support issue zack_ ?
[21:38] <cyclick> Any 16.10 users have firefox sound issues (with all latest updates installed)?
[21:39] <Ben64> cyclick: better to ask your real question
[21:43] <OerHeks> sometimes removal of your ~/.mozilla/firefox profile does miracles
[21:52] <stanreg> What would be the safest/most reliable way to retrieve an eth interface name from a mac address? ifconfig + grep?
[21:56] <jmacdonald> Hrmm. I'm inside of an init.d file , and I changed a variable named DESC, I do systemctl daemon-reload and then try to start the service but the variable doesn't appear to cahnge.
[21:58] <GALL0> how can I make a RAID 0 or same sized  HDDs  with a SSD as a cache?
[21:59] <karic_> Guys I switched from unity to i3wm, now I can't find viber in the rofi dmenu or terminal, I have to launch it from ubuntu software center.
[21:59] <kiervvx> Hi. Every time I run "sudo apt update" I see "AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors." at the end of the output. Is is a serious bug? I wanted to reinstall Ubuntu on my computer but I dunno if it can be done properly until the bug is not fixed. Afaik there's a fix, but still not published in the official repo.
[22:04] <SiiegHeil> SIEG HEIL!!
[22:07] <SiiegHeil> ALL AROUND ARE FAMILIAR FACES
[22:07] <SiiegHeil> WORN OUT PLACES, WORN OUT FACEEEES
[22:07]  * genii sips
[22:07] <karic_> @kiervvx http://askubuntu.com/questions/854168/how-i-can-fix-appstream-cache-update-completed-but-some-metadata-was-ignored-d
[22:08] <dax> genii: you want *!uid203077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/* for that gateway
[22:08] <dax> genii: the x-part is random at connection
[22:08] <genii> :(
[22:08] <genii> I'll need to make a different alias for irccloud
[22:10] <aruns_> Hi, I am running FISH shell on Ubuntu 16.04, have created a shell script that is executable and runs fine, created a symlink to it, cannot execute the symlinked file.
[22:10] <aruns_> Get following error message: https://bpaste.net/show/f9e0c51d1395
[22:14] <wedgie> aruns_: how are you calling the script (both when calling the script directly and calling the symlink)?
[22:14] <wedgie> aruns_: just tested on my system with a bash script and it runs fine as a symlink... Don't have fish to play with though
[22:15] <aruns_> wedgie: ./nameread.sh
[22:15] <aruns_> Don't particularly want to add to my PATH.
[22:15] <aruns_> As not sure if I need to yet.
[22:15] <aruns_> As the original file executes fine.
[22:16] <aruns_> And the symlinked file is only one folder above it.
[22:17] <wedgie> aruns_: is ''exec'' used in your script?
[22:17] <aruns_> wedgie: No.
[22:17] <aruns_> I use a function in my script though.
[22:18] <aruns_> Not sure if that would affect things.
[22:18] <aruns_> wedgie: This is original shell script https://bpaste.net/show/091669acfdbc
[22:18] <nacc> you're running a bash script in the fish shell?
[22:18] <nacc> aruns_: does fish support that?
[22:19] <aruns_> But of course.
[22:19] <aruns_> AFAIK.
[22:19] <aruns_> The shebang line is only read by the kernel.
[22:19] <aruns_> Not the shell.
[22:19] <wedgie> it's got a shebang so it should run fine if invoked as ./scirpt
[22:19] <aruns_> The original file works fine.
[22:19] <aruns_> Not the symlink.
[22:19] <nacc> aruns_: does it work if under bash?
[22:19] <aruns_> nacc: The symlink doesn't, no.
[22:20] <nacc> aruns_: that seems incorrect based upon wedgie's testing
[22:20] <wedgie> aruns_: what if you invoke it as ''bash symlink.sh''
[22:21] <Bashing-om> aruns_: Is a fish shell "bash" ? .. as your script expects the environment to be bash ->> " #!/bin/bash " .
[22:21] <akik> aruns_: if you run the script by name, it'll be run in /bin/bash, i.e. the shebang is used
[22:23] <aruns_> wedgie: When I run the symlink in BASH, it doesn't return any errors.
[22:23] <aruns_> Nor does it return any output.
[22:24] <nacc> aruns_: that is not the behavior i get here (both the original script and symlink to the original script run fine)
[22:24] <wedgie> aruns_: i've installed fish, created a script with a /bin/bash shebang, marked the script as executable, created a symlink to the script, and invoked it as ''./link''. For me, this worked as expected. There must be something different about your setup. Can you pastebin the output of ''ls -l <originalscript>'' and ''ls -l <symlink-to-script>''?
[22:25] <aruns_> Ah I found the error.
[22:25] <wedgie> aruns_: as a side note, i'd rewrite your funciton in the script to read as "pause() {"  (ditch the function keyword)
[22:26] <aruns_> My symlink wasn't in the same directory as the original file.
[22:26] <aruns_> So I needed to prepend the source file with its directory location.
[22:26] <wedgie> so the link was broken?
[22:26] <aruns_> Yes.
[22:27] <nacc> right
[22:27] <aruns_> Thanks.
[22:27] <nacc> aruns_: you have to give a path to a target for a link to make sense, yes
[22:34] <cobranza> hi
[22:35] <tomreyn> bye
[22:39] <GALL0> how can I make a RAID 0 or same sized  HDDs  with a SSD as a cache?
[22:43] <bekks> GALL0: you cant, because RAID does not have cache devices.
[22:43] <mashredder> hello ... how can i give linux more ram and reduce the ram used for root partition in a livecd?
[22:44] <mashredder> anybody?
[22:44] <xangua> Buy more RAM
[22:44] <GALL0> mashredder as I understand it, it's better to have less swap ram as it forces real RAM to clear out cache faster.
[22:44] <GALL0> or what xangua said
[22:45] <mashredder> xangua: i'm on an old machine 1gig of ram
[22:45] <mashredder> GALLL0: didn't know that :-)
[22:46] <mashredder> mistype..
[22:46] <mcphail> GALL0: you can do this with bcache. There's a tutorial for exactly your setup somewhere if I can find it...
[22:47] <GALL0> or even if its separate , just want to download torrents to the SSD and 'move on complete' to the data RAID 0 thn symlinked to RAID 1 pool
[22:50] <tomreyn> maybe mwrite a simple scrit for this purpose
[22:50] <tomreyn> *script
[22:51] <mcphail> GALL0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/InstallOnBcache is a bit obtuse, but gets to a working setup
[22:56] <tomreyn> nice one, i didn't know bcache
[22:59] <totallyhuman> lol
[23:00] <themalcomy> hi
[23:08] <GALL0> mcphail thanks!
[23:11] <freefall> ok problem.. the default lubuntu time clock setup isnt automatic updating the time... so how do i force it to do it job
[23:11] <freefall> or do i need to install a different package
[23:13] <tomreyn> freefall: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntp
[23:13] <freefall> ntp is installed by default
[23:13] <freefall> nptd also
[23:13] <mar1> skype is 3rd party software i know but i want  to use it for acadamic perpose urgently i coudn't install it in my ubuntu 16.04 64 bit machine
[23:14] <pavlos> freefall, http://askubuntu.com/questions/468183/how-to-set-time-to-keep-synchronized-with-internet-servers-in-lubuntu
[23:15] <Bashing-om> mar1: Enable the partners repo, update the data base and you can then install skype .
[23:16] <Bashing-om> mar1: ^^ available : skype/xenial 4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 amd64 .
[23:16] <mar1> Bashing-om: i have already enable partener repo and update it but still not possible i follow this link https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus-linux-64-bit
[23:17] <freefall> ntp is install so what alse do i need to do to get this clock to sync with a time server?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> mar1: What now results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?
[23:18] <nacc> mar1: or what happens when you try? please provide more details
[23:19] <tomreyn> freefall: are you saying that lubuntu's clock shows a different time than "date" on a temrinal does?
[23:19] <freefall> the battery in this box is shot an if the pc get unplug it loose it clock.. so i just rely on it to update itself.. it has done good about it until now
[23:20] <allspork> Question: apt keeps reinstalling vim even though I have removed it and dependencies via apt. Any idea why? Apt says vim is currently "held back". Ubuntu version 16.04
[23:20] <freefall> now it say forget you i dont wanna
[23:20] <freefall> allspork, it a depended maybe for some other package
[23:20] <bazhang> freefall, did you do dist-upgrade for that yet
[23:21] <freefall> i do updates about every week..
[23:21] <bazhang> freefall, dist-upgrade does Not change versions
[23:21] <freefall> im 16.10 lubuntu
[23:21] <mar1> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23670719/
[23:21] <nacc> mar1: is there a reason you are running with -proposed enabled ( testing some bugfix?)
[23:22] <nacc> mar1: it's possible your archive is simply out of date for the one that fails. But note that per that output you do not have partner enabled
[23:23] <Bashing-om> mar1: " Hash Sum mismatch " change your mirror OR wait a few hours for your mirror to re-sync and try again .
[23:28] <mar1> nacc:ok let me change the mirror then
[23:28] <mar1> Bashing-om: ok let me change the mirror
[23:29] <allspork> When I list installed packages and grep for vim, it's saying that the version I have installed (which is compiled from source and at version 8.0.*) is upgradable to version 7.4.1689. How do I stop apt from "upgrading" vim?
[23:30] <bazhang> !pinning | allspork
[23:30] <allspork> ubotto: will do. thanks
[23:30] <bazhang> thats a bot allspork
[23:31] <Bashing-om> mar1: verify that the partner repo is enabld ' cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -i partner ' .
[23:32] <allspork> bazhang: Oh ha! Should have clued in. Thanks.
[23:32] <bazhang> np
[23:35] <nacc> allspork: so you built a .deb from source?
[23:35] <nacc> allspork: it sounds like maybe you have not actually uninstalled vim properly (if it's saying it's upgradeable) or you versioned your .deb wrong if you built your own
[23:36] <nacc> allspork: but also, if packages you install depend on vim, and you didn't build yours as a package, there's nothing for apt do but install the archive version
[23:36] <centaur5> oem-config left the machine without any user at all.  Is there an easy way to create a sudo user on a machine with only guest access?
[23:39] <allspork> nacc: I built the .deb yeah. Built and installed with checkinstall. If there is something specific I need to do for the package version, I am unaware. This worked without a hitch in the last few versions of ubuntu (uninstall stock vim, install custom package in place).
[23:39] <nacc> allspork: can you pastebin `apt policy vim` ?
[23:41] <allspork> nacc: http://pastebin.com/0QZkjT8A
[23:42] <omas> Hi
[23:43] <kms> please help http://askubuntu.com/questions/863552/internal-speakers-do-not-work
[23:45] <allspork> nacc: I guess the custom package version number is incompatible with apt?
[23:46] <bazhang> !checkinstall
[23:51] <nacc> allspork: uh, that version is complete garbage from a packageing perspective :)
[23:51] <nacc> allspork: so yeah, i guess you'll need to pin
[23:52] <nacc> allspork: note the policy is showing you the relative order of package as apt sees it, and the number that checkinstall created (you can see that it was `dpkg -i` installed becasue it's only showing up in /var/lib/dpkg/status as a 'source') is before the two from the archive (which have epoch bumps to 2:)
[23:54] <allspork> nacc: Ok. So is there a proper way to get checkinstall to create the correct version scheme or is it a lost cause?
[23:54] <gwozt> hey guys i've used ubuntu for about a year now and yesterday some of the keys on keyboard stopped working that are:p o ı u. ive been googling since yesterday and still haven't got any solutions
[23:55] <allspork> nacc: Is that out of scope of ubuntu support?
[23:55] <nacc> allspork: hrm, let me look quickly
[23:56] <nacc> allspork: probably should be using '--pkgversion', since it's not derviving the correct value
[23:57] <nacc> allspork: the problem is you're outside the packaging rules altogether, since you are not carrying the stuff that debian/ubuntu do
[23:57] <nacc> allspork: so even if you made it 8.0_... it would sort lower than 2:8.0... (and even 2:7....)
[23:58] <nacc> allspork: checkinstall is really a workaround to not having proper packaging
[23:58] <nacc> and note that 8.x is in 17.04