=== Unit193 is now known as JackFrost [18:18] indicator-panel worketh once more [18:24] mmm [18:25] spoketh too soon [18:39] could I get some confirmation on bug 1652134 [18:39] bug 1652134 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "Unable to hide (or make visible) individual indicators" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652134 [22:00] oki, i'm here ;) [22:00] knome: so if we had a proposal section - what would we want? [22:00] dependencies [22:01] changes to size? [22:01] some sort of pros and cons? [22:01] cos now I found a word missing - I could do both mp for both :p [22:01] http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/xsd.html#xsd-seeds-composition-package-selection <- basically that [22:02] in other words, same guidelines go for replacing packages as for new [22:02] plus of course in the case of replacing, you'll want to compare [22:02] but i think that's implied [22:02] yup [22:02] really then Package Selection should include Proposals ? [22:03] at least logically in my head [22:03] i'm kind of meh on that [22:03] what extra could it bring to the table? [22:03] somewhere to point people [22:03] isn't proposals for replacements and new packages always related to the package selection? [22:03] point them to the package selection section? :) [22:03] yes [22:04] well yea - now I see that bit - I can see that it's much of a muchness [22:04] :) [22:05] still got a missing word though :p [22:05] well, do an MP [22:08] yea ofc - or I could just do some random pastebin thing like kryten :p [22:08] no please [22:08] he's done a dozen of those for the ubuntu community wordpress theme [22:08] hence the discussion re proposals - would have done it all together [22:08] and i've processed like one of them [22:08] ... [22:08] knome: have you ever seen me do that ;) [22:09] no, but who knows what 2017 brings ;) [22:09] change I hope - horrid year ;) [22:13] knome: anything massive happening to contributor docs I don't know about? [22:13] nope [22:14] nothing at all planned [22:14] ok - I might take the chance while akxwi-dave is doing qa duties to just run through the cont stuff like I have the user docs then [22:14] mhm [22:15] mhm always sounds like 'you can if you want - can't see the point personnaly' :p [22:16] though I know it's not :) [22:16] heh, sorry for that [22:16] and indeed it is not [22:16] yep [22:16] no need for a sorry :D [22:16] after this long I know ... [22:17] sigh @ clients [22:17] :) [22:24] oh he is here already [22:24] :P [22:24] \o/ [22:24] | [22:24] / \ [22:24] Spass: basically, if you have the disk space - do a dual boot with 17.04 [22:25] you can be brave and let 17.04 have grub (like me) or install dev grub to partition rather than disk [22:25] then you can run either [22:26] and while I am brave (or nuts) I do also have a 16.04 install I can boot if I really have to [22:27] Yep, hi all. I have an ability to dual boot, sure. On my laptop (Dell E6410 with NVIDIA graphics). [22:27] there is an enormous amount of qa docs that we've developed over the last few years - that should answer most questions [22:27] laptop testing is absolutely awesome - lots of team have laptops - but use them for work so are a bit shy :D [22:28] personally I hate laptops so don't test that [22:28] But isn't the official laptop testing team finished for quite a while now? [22:28] hence we find locking/power stuff really late in the cycle :( [22:28] ( like, defunct) [22:28] That's my small goal for 2017 - do something useful for Xubuntu community. [22:28] genii: really don't know [22:28] genii, laptop testing as in testing with laptops [22:28] but yes, the "laptop testing" thing is dead [22:29] Spass: if you started using the dev version more and more during the cycle that would be a huge gain for us - as you are in this channel [22:29] and hugely useful to the community too [22:30] I could also test on my main PC "simultaneously" [22:30] I'm sure there are people out there doing the same thing - but we only find out those ones once we've released - at which point doing anything is much much harder [22:31] using dev xubuntu is how the rest of the team got a qa person who moaned all the time - then akxwi-dave joined - having 3 would be great :p [22:32] some things are generic - and we can't fix them [22:32] usually found in installation testing for instance [22:33] but the recent indicator-panel bugs I've found are because I run whatver dev version we are on [22:33] * flocculant rambles when given the chance :) [22:33] I understand. Well, I will install dev version on my laptop soon :) [22:34] http://dev.xubuntu.org/ [22:34] has most of everything - check out the contributor docs - especially the qa ones [22:35] Spass: cool - just so long as you realise that I will either ask if you've done it - or get someone else to ask [22:37] sorry if I hurled you a wall of words :D [22:37] I'll do some reading and research about contributing and I'll reach to you guys. [22:37] awesome :) [22:38] Some pretty busy days ahead. but later I'll have plenty of free time that I should use for something... useful :) [22:39] nice :) [22:40] My English can be wobbly sometimes, sorry for that in advance. I'll try to not hurt your eyes. [22:40] Spass: either akxwi-dave or me are the best people for specific qa things - more general things - just ask, bear in mind that this channel is busy in stages [22:41] I'll try to not interrupt meetings like I did while ago ;) [22:41] flocculant's and akxwi-dave's english is messy sometimes... and they're british [22:41] Spass: no problem we have Finn's, Austrian's, Portuguese people and others who are worse at English - like the English :) [22:42] knome: I said that - but longer :p [22:42] :P [22:42] akxwi-dave and I type in dialects :D [22:42] * knome types with keyboards [22:42] ;) [22:43] ali1234 doesn't - he sighs at me [22:43] :) [23:09] I appreciate and thank you all for your kind welcome. I'll try to be here almost everyday and I'll tell you when I'll be ready for some real work. [23:10] no worries or hurries [23:42] if only one could symlink a comment in a logged *buntu channel [23:42] hah [23:42] This would be my *current* fave ... [23:43] But for now, my proposition from #xubuntu - I think that adding gnome-font-viewer would be nice. People who came from Windows may expect, that the OS has some kind of preview app for the font files. [23:44] oh oh my why why oh why do the CC forsake making signing the CoC an easy task [23:44] mhall119: ^^ [23:44] don't try hiding ;) [23:45] They're trying to follow a model of using GPG, but a lot of users don't really have it or any other use for it. [23:46] following a model? [23:46] mmm [23:46] or mhm] [23:47] like many hockey players [23:47] :P [23:47] oh wait i thought this was -ot [23:47] oh well