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[00:06] <clivejo> wxl: in the script gbp-ppa, it now seems to check the git branch you are in
[00:06] <clivejo> however, there are occasions I want to run it in kubuntu_unstable and it wont let me
[00:06] <clivejo> would you take a look?
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[00:18] <acheronuk> clivejo: think this is the commit? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/commit/?id=35eb222d6b607f15d0f127e989eddb3bb7a4ce6c
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[00:44] <wxl> clivejo: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/git-buildpackage-ppa#n118 :/
[00:46] <clivejo> is there an option I could pass to ignore that?
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[00:46] <wxl> judging by the note alone, i'm guessing not
[00:46] <wxl> let me try to understand exactly what's going on here
[00:47] <wxl> ahh
[00:47] <wxl> yes you can
[00:48] <wxl> set kubuntu-check-valid-branch off https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/conf/defaultrc#n65
[00:49] <clivejo> wxl: I mean in this block - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/git-buildpackage-ppa#n35
[00:49] <wxl> clivejo: no. no argument. you can only tweak the config file.
[00:49] <clivejo> could you add an option/argument to ignore the branch
[00:50] <clivejo> and just do what I ask it to do
[00:50] <wxl> sure
[00:50] <wxl> it'd be just a matter of adding another argument and then having that config check alternately check the arg
[00:51] <clivejo> does it affect any logic later on?
[00:51] <wxl> i can drum something up and push it to my branch
[00:51] <wxl> given that the config has an option to allow for that i doubt it
[00:52] <wxl> and if i'm reading this correct it seems that the end result here is merely putting the source package in an upload area
[00:52] <wxl> so even if it does break something (which again i seriously doubt) it should have no dramatic effect
[00:53] <clivejo> ok
[00:53] <wxl> want me to drum something up for you?
[00:53] <clivejo> please, if you can
[00:54] <clivejo> Im having to create branches locally for it to run
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[01:11] <wxl> there you go clivejo https://git.launchpad.net/~wxl/+git/kubuntu-automation/commit/?id=295a97269c97f1069476181e0c506d1735d12baf
[01:11] <wxl> bah that extra "to" will make tsimonq2 livid. we should keep it.
[01:12] <clivejo> do we need --checkbranch?
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[01:12] <clivejo> that should be default behaviour, unless someone decides to override
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[01:13] <wxl> this follows the behavior of the lintian switch
[01:13] <wxl> which, if nothing's done, will get the default config
[01:14] <clivejo> oh 
[01:14] <wxl> run-lintian is set to on as default
[01:14] <wxl> just as kubuntu-check-valid-branch is set to on
[01:14] <clivejo> I'm no good with python programming
[01:14] <clivejo> so don't even try!
[01:14] <wxl> well even if you were you'd have to figure out what he's doing :)
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[01:15] <wxl> to answer you more clearly:
[01:15] <clivejo> my memory is rubbish
[01:15] <wxl> if you do nothing, it will automatically check the branch
[01:15] <clivejo> which makes reading and understanding code very difficult
[01:16] <wxl> if you change your conf file so that it doesn't, then it will automatically NOT check the branch
[01:16] <wxl> regardless of what you do in your conf file, explicitly using --nocheckbranch or --checkbranch will always trump everything
[01:16] <wxl> which is how unixy stuff is supposed to work, so that's Good™ :)
[01:16] <clivejo> I see
[01:17] <clivejo> wxl: have you zesty installed?
[01:17] <wxl> um no 
[01:19]  * wxl added a comment to the defaultrc
[01:20] <DarinMiller> Hey all o/
[01:20] <wxl> hey DarinMiller 
[01:20] <wxl> long time no see
[01:20] <clivejo> Hi DarinMiller
[01:21] <DarinMiller> clivejo: I have zesting installed if something needs tessted.
[01:21] <DarinMiller> that would be zesty....
[01:21] <clivejo> DarinMiller: do you know of the Konversation crash bug?
[01:21] <clivejo> LP: 1635911
[01:21] <DarinMiller> yes
[01:21] <clivejo> could you check it is still crashing
[01:22] <DarinMiller> rebooting to check brb....
[01:22] <clivejo> then install version 1.6.2 from my PPA here - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/zesty/
[01:22] <clivejo> oh hes gone
[01:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[01:26] <DarinMiller> clivejo: do I need to enable staging applications or any other ppa?
[01:26] <clivejo> then install version 1.6.2 from my PPA here - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/zesty/
[01:27] <clivejo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:clivejo/zesty
[01:27] <clivejo> sudo apt-get update
[01:27] <clivejo> sudo apt-get install konversation
[01:28] <DarinMiller> brb...
[01:30] <DarinMiller> Fixed and now i am able to add other channels.
[01:31] <clivejo> no crashing?
[01:31] <DarinMiller> nope
[01:31] <DarinMiller> working perfectly
[01:31] <wxl> now go fix ubiquity, clivejo 
[01:31] <wxl> XD
[01:32] <DarinMiller> Used to have to select the server to avoid the crash.  Now selecting the top level and clicking edit no longer crashes either.
[01:34] <clivejo> DarinMiller: great, thanks for double checking that
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[01:37] <DarinMiller> np
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[01:40] <clivejo> wxl: :P
[01:40] <clivejo> SRU konversation
[01:40] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[01:41] <wxl> yes dear
[01:41] <clivejo> good boy!
[01:42] <clivejo> not sure if you can convert the current bug to an SRU or need to open a new one
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[01:46] <wxl> hm
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[01:46] <wxl> does this count as a "new upstream microrelease?"
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 Konversation 1.6.2 is a hotfix release that fixes an unfortunate severe crash condition that crept into 1.6.1."
 bug fix release
[01:50] <wxl> k
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 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/1.6.2-0ubuntu1
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 @wxl, I WILL BURN YOU WITH FIRE. :)
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 Should I use the commit message "SOMEBODY didn't pass 4th grade literacy" or "SOMEBODY doesn't know how to check for typos"? :)
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[04:40] <lmnet> acheronuk: unfortunately, I can't downgrade from backports-landing. I need plasma 5.8 because I have some problems with multimonitor configuration with plasma <5.8.
 It's already landed into Backports
 So you'll be fine. :)
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[05:02] <valorie> clivejo: sorry, was out for awhile
[05:03] <valorie> now installed: 1.6.2-0ubuntu1 -- all good! thank you for fixing
[05:04] <valorie> should I also test kdeconnect from your PPA?
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[05:50] <[Relic]> yay! turning off the allow programs to override compositing fixed that annoyance
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[06:28] <wxl> aw shoot
[06:28] <wxl> what's the stupid password for the notes?
[06:33] <wxl> ah kde identiy
[06:33] <wxl> sheesh
[06:33] <wxl> thank god for grep
[06:41] <valorie> we need to move those notes
[06:41] <wxl> that'd be good
[06:41] <valorie> notes.kde.org is moving
[06:41] <valorie> I mean dying
[06:41] <wxl> oh noes
[06:41] <valorie> we have phab now
[06:42] <valorie> which actually I need to write an email about
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[06:47] <wxl> man i love stockhausen
[06:50] <valorie> the music?
[06:51] <wxl> yep
[06:51] <valorie> you never fail to surprise me
[06:51] <wxl> hehehe
[06:52] <wxl> don't be too surprised. stockhausen was a major influence of aphex twin who i was listening to earlier.
[06:52] <wxl> i have a grand love for the avant-garde of all forms
[06:54] <wxl> i had a radio show on the local college station. citing the local newspaper with a nod to the sex pistols, i called it "nevermind the register guard, here's the avant-garde"
[07:05] <valorie> lol
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[08:34] <acheronuk> lmnet: I said downgrade the qt packages, not the whole ppas.
[08:34] <acheronuk> i.e. to these packages https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011-deletedppa/+build/10491543
[08:35] <acheronuk> whatever ones of those you have installed
[08:35] <wxl> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh
[08:35] <wxl> Rejected:
[08:35] <wxl> Unable to find distroseries: yakkety-amd64
[08:35] <acheronuk> wxl??
[08:35] <wxl> whaaaat?
[08:36] <wxl> oh
[08:36] <wxl> wait, i think i see why
[08:36] <wxl> weiiird
[08:37] <acheronuk> lmnet: if you have trouble downgrading, try to catch me late afternoon or evening time on there (UK time) and I'll help you do it
[08:37] <acheronuk> *on here
[08:38] <acheronuk> wxl: sbuild target and distro series mixed up?
[08:38] <wxl> yeah
[08:40] <wxl> thank god for -j4 tho
[08:42] <wxl> i guess instead of using -d i should use -c 
[08:53] <wxl> for building to stick into a ppa with sbuild, is it ok to specify --source or does one need to debuild -S first?
[08:54] <wxl> looks like --source is it
[09:05] <wxl> tee hee
[09:07] <wxl> adding all arguments except the nth one(s) to the end of a bash script → first convert to array (args=("$@")) and then just throw in ${args[@]:n} at the end
[09:34] <wxl> ok i think (think) i finally managed to get something uploaded to my ppa if anyone wants to try testing the potential sru candidate of konversation in yakkety
[09:34] <wxl> i warn you i went totally on my own on this one
[09:34] <wxl> so might want to put it in a vm
[09:34] <wxl> i'm way past bed time so night night
[09:34] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~wxl/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:34] <clivejo> yofel: can this LP 1635911 be converted into a SRU, or do we have to create a brand new one just for the SRU to yakkety?
[13:43] <yofel> clivejo: that already has a sru task?
[13:44] <clivejo> does it?
[13:47] <clivejo> it falls under section 2.3 New upstream microreleases ?
[13:55] <yofel> clivejo: yes, but konversation will probably need a review it if has no auto-tests and there's more than one crash fix
[13:57] <clivejo> also, there are two plugin's for kdevelop, were the source has been renamed, how do I get those added to our package list so kubuntu-devel can upload?
[13:57] <clivejo> !info kdev-python yakkety
[13:58] <clivejo> upstream are calling it kdevelop-python now
[13:58] <clivejo> same with -php
[13:58] <yofel> you have someone with >= MOTU upload it, wait for it to pass source and binary NEW, then add it to the seed and refresh the packageset
[13:58] <clivejo> so stuck waiting for release team to approve it?
[13:58] <clivejo> another krita
[14:00] <clivejo> ah *beep* that for a game of billiards
[14:00] <yofel> well, krita got accepted into debian experimental, so that might help
[14:01] <clivejo> has it always been like this?
[14:04] <yofel> well, it has been like this the last couple months. Before that we had 3 core devs, +2 motus, and from the former 1 was an archive admin, and one on the release team. Back then things were easier
[14:05] <clivejo> :(
[14:06] <clivejo> is there an alternative path?
[14:08] <clivejo> maybe provide an addons PPA?
[14:09] <clivejo> or extras or whatever the bike shedding team decide to call it!
[14:09] <clivejo> PPA extreme
[14:11] <yofel> the moment we add a PPA by default we go from 'flavor' to 'derived distribution'. We had that discussion months ago already
[14:21] <clivejo> not much flavour going on at the moment
[14:22] <yofel> hm, I love looking through old wtf articles, and considering that I had to reverse-engineer the CI, I now want to call it Codethulhu http://thedailywtf.com/articles/The_Call_of_Codethulhu
[14:22] <yofel> how about  a job description of the "regular jenkins maintenance, paid in rubies" sort?
[14:25] <clivejo> LOL
[14:32] <clivejo> see they use Java too
[14:32] <clivejo> it should all be re-written in Java
[14:34] <clivejo> KCI.addProject("krita")
[14:34] <clivejo> and it would do everything for us
[14:34] <yofel> hm, that should already be a thing, just a tad less readable
[15:54] <wxl> clivejo: not sure you read the scrollback but https://launchpad.net/~wxl/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu
[15:55] <wxl> clivejo: i couldn't get sbuild to drum up something reasonable so i ended up using pdebuild and that seemed to do the trick.
[15:57] <wxl> tsimonq2: your homework— figure out how to use sbuild to build source packages (not binaries) for upload to a ppa. when i used --source it build BOTH, which lp won't accept.
[16:06] <wxl> someone please change topic to read "Zesty Zapus Alpha 2 testing starts 24 Jan"
[16:07] <wxl> i've emailed release team to say we're not doing it
[16:07] <wxl> frankly, i don't think anyone's going to and that includes lubuntu
 @wxl, RTFM https://wiki.debian.org/sbuild#source_only_upload
 Why not Lubuntu?
[16:08] <wxl> well
[16:08] <wxl> (A) no one else is doing it
[16:08] <wxl> (B) the timing is terrible for me (and others)
 Yeah, not good timing...
 wxl: Fine manual, ain't it? :)
[16:09] <wxl> the problem is with early milestones SOMEONE needs to head up the whole thing
[16:09] <wxl> i can't
[16:09] <wxl> and xubuntu is out
[16:10] <wxl> that leaves mate. and timing's bad for flexiondotorg 
[16:10] <wxl> so i left a message to ubuntu-release to see if someone wants to pick up the torch
[16:10] <wxl> budgie? XD
[16:11] <wxl> tsimonq2: tl;dr you CAN'T do it with sbuild.
 I totally think we can make it work if we push it back a week
[16:11]  * wxl shrugs
 Right?
[16:11] <wxl> not worth it for alpha 1
 wxl: Sí
[16:13] <wxl> tsimonq2: problem using dpkg-buildpackage is that (unless i'm wrong) requires you to be on the distribution you're building for. that's why i went with pdebuild
 So I'm gonna torture myself and use Dvorak
[16:13] <wxl> you're off school right?
[16:13] <blaze> kgpg kf5 depends on akonadi libs :\
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0ptMpfSJ/file_1506.jpg
[16:14] <wxl> ew
[16:14] <blaze> which means no kgpg 'til apps 16.12
 wxl: debuild -s
 Wrong
[16:15] <wxl> tsimonq2: yes debuild -S but that's not in a chroot, so same problem again
 wxl: nope, bored in class
[16:15] <wxl>  oh wow
[16:15] <wxl> bummer
 Why is that a problem?
[16:16] <wxl> well when you get a chance later check out ppa:wxl/kubuntu, specifically the konversation for yakkety. test it out for me?
[16:18] <wxl> thx clivejo 
[16:18] <wxl> off to work
 I have work, wxl
 Who uses Dvorak?
[16:24] <blaze> clivejo: remove landing
[16:28] <DarinMiller> wxl: your PPA w/ Konversation update worked great.
 I swear, you better not say ZZ!
[16:29] <davmor2> :wq
[16:29] <clivejo> ZZ
 Aaaaaaaaah
 use apt-get to install QT on ZZ
[16:30] <clivejo> LOL
[16:30] <clivejo> you'll cause him damage!
 too late
 OMG you're killing me!
[16:31] <clivejo> I just imagine him sitting with an eye twitching
 Dvorak is hard...
 Of course! Torture!
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ShY0ov4i/file_1506.jpg
[16:32] <clivejo> @acheronuk: are you shopping? 
[16:32] <blaze> who said ZZ? http://i.imgur.com/eALZvxT.jpg
 Lol
 @clivejo, No, but I have people here ATM
 Screw it, I'll switch to Dvorak later... :P
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/mUKhFUUU/file_1508.jpg
[16:54] <clivejo> what is Boost Mobile?
[16:58] <marco-parillo> clivejo: Probably off-topic, which I try to avoid at work, but Boost Mobile is an MVNO. Generally the "real" wireless operators in the USA try to lock in customers with long-term contracts. The "virtual" ones are more flexible (and IMHO) less expensive also.
[16:58] <clivejo> oh right
[17:01] <clivejo> DarinMiller: did you ever get that KDE bouncer?
[17:03] <DarinMiller> hey clivejo,
[17:03] <DarinMiller> Yes  they approved my applicaiton but I did not know what to do once approved.
[17:04] <clivejo> go to https://bnc.kde.org:7778/
[17:04] <clivejo> use your KDE username and password to log in
[17:06] <DarinMiller> OK, logged in and reviewing the email options now...
[17:06] <clivejo> click on Your Settings on the menu right hand side
[17:09] <DarinMiller> What option do you recommend I enable?
[17:09] <clivejo> Fill out your IRC Information
[17:10] <clivejo> then  under networks click add new
[17:11] <DarinMiller> umm, I think I am viewing a different settings page: https://phabricator.kde.org/settings/user/darinmiller/
[17:11] <clivejo> thats your KDE account
[17:12] <clivejo> go to https://bnc.kde.org
[17:12] <DarinMiller> sry, I missed your previous post... makes much more sense now...
[17:13] <clivejo> log in using your KDE username and password
[17:13] <DarinMiller> logged in and scanning the module section....
[17:13] <clivejo> at the top it should say logged in as : darinmiller
[17:14] <clivejo> so click on Your settings
[17:15] <clivejo> there should be a Networks section
[17:15] <DarinMiller> add freenode to the IRC network?
[17:15] <clivejo> yes
[17:16] <clivejo> add the channels you want to be buffered for you
[17:16] <clivejo> ie #kubuntu-devel
[17:19] <DarinMiller> enable any of the channel options?
[17:19] <clivejo> in the modules select nickserve and enter your nickserve password 
[17:21] <DarinMiller> Rookie question: what is my Ident: ?
[17:22] <clivejo> usually just your nick
[17:23] <DarinMiller> My nickname is: DarinMiller, so am confused by  the Ident field.  Leave blank?
[17:23] <clivejo> just put it the same
[17:23] <DarinMiller> ok
[17:23] <DarinMiller> Add Network?
[17:24] <clivejo> yup
[17:28] <DarinMiller> OK, I think it's setup.  My IRC nick is blank in the Networks table even though it's setup in the config....
[17:28] <DarinMiller> How to test?
[17:28] <clivejo> you need to copy it in there too
[17:30] <clivejo> added the IRC server or servers you usually connect to
[17:32] <clivejo> once you have configured the network and channels and nickserve when you click on Active, it should connect to it
[17:32] <clivejo> I would change your nick here first
[17:33] <clivejo> so that it can connect using it
 workded for me https://community.kde.org/Sysadmin/BNC#Configure_Identify
 *worked
[18:10] <DarinMiller> wow, that BNC rabit hole is deep.
 *rabbit
 *runs from mob*
[18:14] <hippybear> If a package is already built for Ubuntu how do I get that into Kubuntu repos?
[18:15]  * DarinMiller brain goes to high efficiently mode when typing.  You will often notice many missing characters and words.  The letters and words were sent to the fingers, but they do not always obey...
 Ubuntu and Kubuntu share repositories with the exception of a few PPAs we have
[18:16] <hippybear> http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/pool/main/y/youtube-dlg/
[18:17] <hippybear> this one is not in the repos
[18:17] <hippybear> or at least not available to install via apt install youtube-dlg
[18:20] <DarinMiller> hippybear:  I think the package you want is: sudo apt install youtube-dl
[18:21] <hippybear> DarinMiller: I already have youtube-dl installed this is a GUI in python to control that youtube-dl
[18:21] <wxl> http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/pool/main/y/youtube-dlg/youtube-dlg_0.3.8-1~webupd8~wily0.dsc
[18:21] <hippybear> https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui
[18:21] <acheronuk> !info youtube-dl
[18:21] <wxl> this is all python
[18:21] <wxl> not specific to kubuntu at all
[18:22] <acheronuk> oh. GUI. nm
[18:22] <hippybear> Ok, how do I create a package to be distributed in the repos
[18:22] <wxl> hippybear: usually the first step is to get it in debian
[18:22] <hippybear> if a package is already in the Ubuntu repos and not available to Kubuntu users
 Get it in Debian Sid
[18:22] <wxl> you might want to ask #ubuntu-devel
 JINX :)
[18:22] <hippybear> wth
[18:23] <hippybear> Why?
[18:23] <wxl> DarinMiller: thanks, btw, for checking that konversation in yakkety
[18:23] <wxl> hippybear: because that's how ubuntu development works
[18:23] <wxl> hippybear: it's very rare to find a package in ubuntu that's not in debian
[18:23] <hippybear> But I am on Kubuntu
[18:23] <wxl> hippybear: which is a derivative of debian
[18:23] <acheronuk> hippybear: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[18:23] <hippybear> and when you ask anything in Ubuntu it is always met with the snarky Ubuntu != Kubuntu
[18:23] <wxl> hippybear: so say you want it for ubuntu.
[18:23] <hippybear> Its already in the Ubuntu repos
[18:24] <wxl> where?
[18:24] <hippybear> so.... gonna look like a moron 
[18:24] <hippybear> Ohhh thats debian
[18:24] <acheronuk> the command line program is in the ubuntu repos
[18:24] <wxl> yes, which is not the same
[18:24] <hippybear> It has been successfully packaged for ubuntu at http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/pool/main/y/youtube-dlg/
[18:24] <wxl> yes, but that's not how development in ubuntu works
[18:24] <hippybear> According to this bug report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=753350
[18:25] <acheronuk> the GUI (which I didn't know existed) is not in the ubuntu repos
[18:25] <hippybear> Ahh so it has been packaged but not put in  the repos?
[18:25] <wxl> it's only packaged for ubuntu
[18:25] <wxl> not for debian
[18:25] <hippybear> ok, so now join Ubuntu-devel and ask how to get it in the repos?
[18:26] <wxl> you need to find someone to sponsor it into debian
[18:26] <wxl> that bug is not fixed, which is to say, it's not finished in debian
[18:26] <wxl> there are debian developers in #ubuntu-devel. they should be able to help
[18:26] <hippybear> Or go to debian and ask how to get it in sid so I can go to ubuntu-dev and ask how to get that in Ubuntu then come here and ask how to get it ready for KDE?
[18:26] <wxl> it does not need us at all
[18:26] <wxl> if it's ready for ubuntu it's ready for kubuntu/kde
[18:26] <hippybear> right on
[18:27] <hippybear> so what does Kubuntu-devel do?
[18:27] <hippybear> Just point to other rooms ?
[18:27] <wxl> work on releasing kubuntu
[18:27] <wxl> and packaging *KDE-SPECIFIC* packages
[18:27] <acheronuk> we make the kde/kubuntu packages for ubuntu
[18:27] <wxl> konversation is such an example.
[18:27] <hippybear> How can I make this gui a KDE specific package?
[18:27] <wxl> irssi is not.
[18:28] <wxl> hippybear: you can write a qt front end for it. and even then, it's not kde specific.
[18:28] <hippybear> kirssi mght be?
[18:28] <wxl> there's no irssi (irssi is command line, and thus not specific to any desktop environment or graphical libraries)
[18:28] <hippybear> How do I make it KDE specific so I dont feel rejected coming in here asking how to make it for the distro I have used for the past 10 years?
[18:28] <wxl> s/irssi/kirssi/
[18:29] <wxl> you don't
[18:29] <wxl> it's not kde specific
[18:29] <wxl> because it's not developed by kde
[18:29] <wxl> if you go to kde.org you can see all the things that are developed by the kde team
[18:29] <hippybear> How do I make an app KDE specific so I dont feel rejected coming in here asking how to make it for the distro I have used for the past 10 years?
[18:29] <hippybear> any app
[18:29] <hippybear> like fresh repo, new code
[18:29] <wxl> there are many things that they DO NOT develop that are in kubuntu
[18:29] <wxl> hippybear: join the kde team
[18:29] <hippybear> Ok example me?
[18:29] <wxl> hippybear: bash.
[18:29] <hippybear> I would love to!
[18:30] <hippybear> bash is KDE specific?
[18:30] <wxl> no, it's not
[18:30] <wxl> but it's in your kubuntu
[18:30] <hippybear> lol
[18:30] <acheronuk> Firefox, Libreoffice
[18:30] <hippybear> so any app with K in the front such as Konversation / Kopete are KDE specific?
[18:30] <wxl> no
[18:30] <hippybear> I assume yes
[18:30] <hippybear> wth??
[18:30] <acheronuk> no
[18:30] <hippybear> :(
[18:31] <hippybear> so I can install Kopete in Ubuntu?
[18:31] <hippybear> or debian?
[18:31] <wxl> sure, as long as you install all the required libraries
[18:31] <wxl> OH!
[18:31]  * acheronuk goes to find a beer
[18:31] <wxl> kvm is not kde specific
[18:31] <hippybear> well isnt that any system?
[18:31]  * wxl wins
[18:31] <wxl> well, any linux system
[18:32] <wxl> wmmv with unix, but feel free
[18:32] <wxl> regardless of what people tell you, kubuntu *IS* ubuntu
[18:32] <hippybear> I would like to join a development team and do some stuff but I feel like im getting the run around
[18:32] <wxl> it's just ubuntu with some packages missing and some other packages added
[18:32] <hippybear> so I will just idle and pretend to be cool
[18:32] <wxl> suit yourself
[18:35] <wxl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vgDpI8kU98
[18:36] <hippybear> I think Ubuntu-devel is shunning me
[18:37] <hippybear> jk
[18:37] <hippybear> still too early maybe
[18:37] <wxl> patience is a virtue. watch that video while you wait.
[18:37] <hippybear> already listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE76N4JqM-Y
[18:38] <wxl> yeah mine's got more to keep your attention visually :)
[18:38] <hippybear> lol
[18:38]  * hippybear is a blind guy
[18:38] <wxl> rilly?
[18:39] <hippybear> so this will get me setup to develop in KDE? http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/index.html
[18:39] <wxl> look, if you want to help with kubuntu, the first step is packaging for sure. so yeah, that'll be a good start :)
[18:39] <hippybear> not totally, but I am considered blind by all medical arenas 
[18:39] <hippybear> alright
[18:39] <wxl> hippybear: do you need to use any accessibility features because of that?
[18:39] <hippybear> I want to learn the process
[18:40] <hippybear> be able to contribute to apps I already love and use
[18:40] <hippybear> a ton
[18:40] <wxl> i'd follow the packaging guide and get hello in a ppa. once you've done that you'll ahve enough familiarity with the tools that we can move you forward from there
[18:40] <wxl> and you can ALWAYS help with testing
[18:40] <hippybear> all kinds of system tweaks, cool monitors, fancy magnifier lens going all the time\it looks goofy but meh
[18:41] <wxl> neat!
[18:41] <wxl> there's an accessibility team in ubuntu
[18:41] <hippybear> i want to take on zim also
[18:41] <hippybear> its kinda abandoned
[18:41] <wxl> not sure if you need help but if you use that stuff it makes a BIG difference!!!!
[18:41] <wxl> had someone come into #lubuntu the other day looking for help with voice recognition and i was just clueless. i'd feel the same way with your needs.
[18:42] <wxl> anywho re: testing i just threw together a fix for konversation in yakkety if you want to test it out.
[18:42] <hippybear> Yeah its hard to get setup initially but after using buntu for +15 yrs I pretty much know what to change and where
[18:42] <hippybear> sheeet link me bro
[18:43] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~wxl/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu
[18:43] <hippybear> I did have Konversation crash twice yesterday and it wouldnt stop spamming me to send a report and leave closed or relaunch
[18:43] <wxl> ^^ that should fix it!
[18:43] <hippybear> sweet!
[18:43] <wxl> it's a fix for https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635911
[18:44] <wxl> hippybear: i will say if you're interested in development, getting started with the things you use regularly is the BEST way to do things
[18:45] <hippybear> for sure
[18:45] <hippybear> ok now to test this fix
[18:48] <hippybear> E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/wxl/kubuntu/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:49] <wxl> hippybear: oh yeah. don't have it in xenial :(
[18:49] <hippybear> Oh carp
[18:49] <wxl> only yakkety
[18:49] <wxl> you can drum a vm if you want to test it out tho
[18:49] <hippybear> didnt even notice the version lol
[18:49] <wxl> ^^ look at the bug note from ubottu
[18:49] <hippybear> ok so.... how do you update it to xenial? Whats that process?
[18:50] <hippybear> ubottu?
[18:51] <hippybear> I can make it ready for xenial?
[18:51] <hippybear> and thereby earn the process?
[18:51] <hippybear> learn
[19:18] <clivejo> is the konverstaion bug in xenial too?
[19:21] <clivejo> DarinMiller: did you get your bouncer setup?
[19:34] <DarinMiller> clivejo: I installed irssi, configured the server and chatnet
[19:34] <clivejo> are you connected via the bouncer now?
[19:35] <DarinMiller> irssi succesfully connects to  bnc.kde.org, but same credentials and setup in konversation do not seem to work.
[19:35] <clivejo> should work :/
[19:36] <clivejo> are you using the correct username and password?
[19:36] <DarinMiller> konversation welcome met to ZNC but then says: [12:35] <*status> Your message to [nickserv] got lost, you are not connected to IRC!
[19:37] <clivejo> did you see the instructions Rik posted, https://community.kde.org/Sysadmin/BNC#Configure_Identify
[19:37] <DarinMiller> followed by [12:36] <*status> Disconnected from IRC (Can't resolve server hostname). Reconnecting...
[19:37] <DarinMiller> yes.  that's when I installed irssi and tested that connection.  No errors with irssi.
[19:38] <clivejo> did you reuse any old settings in konversation
[19:40] <DarinMiller> I setup, deleted and resetup the Konv. server 3 times as per the webpage referenced by Rik.
[19:40] <DarinMiller> but obviously something is amiss...
[19:44] <clivejo> did you use the nickserv module in the BNC settings?
[19:47] <DarinMiller> Under default idently, -I tried both nickserv and server settings.  Do I need to clear out all of my default nicks?
[19:48] <DarinMiller> No channels are set as specified by the instructions.
[19:52] <clivejo> you can add the channels later once logged on
[19:53] <clivejo> just join them as usual and they get added
[19:56] <clivejo> you have no cloak now
[19:58] <DarinMiller> hmmm... let me kill the BNC server and see if that allows the cloal.
[19:58] <DarinMiller> BNC server says: [12:56] [Welcome] - Welcome to ZNC 
[19:59] <DarinMiller> so I assume it likes my credentials.
[19:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kreport build #16: STILL FAILING in 6 min 33 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kreport/16/
[19:59] <DarinMiller> but then I get a *status channel that repeatably says: [12:57] <*status> Disconnected from IRC (Can't resolve server hostname). Reconnecting...
[20:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kreport build #13: STILL FAILING in 7 min 8 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kreport/13/
[20:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kreport build #14: STILL FAILING in 9 min 12 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kreport/14/
[20:02] <DarinMiller> looks like my cloak is dead.  Not sure how I killed it.
[20:03] <DarinMiller> also i don;t understand this section: https://community.kde.org/Sysadmin/BNC#Configure_Identify
[20:03] <DarinMiller> Configure Identity^
[20:04] <BluesKaj> +da perhaps since your're using a bouncer the setting there overides nickserv registry
[20:04] <BluesKaj> DarinMiller,^
[20:05] <wxl> who else wnats to test konversation in yakkety/
[20:05] <acheronuk> a cloaked login via the BNC with SASL works here. check the config again?
[20:05] <DarinMiller> BluesKaj: probably.  but I killed the bouncer server from Konversation (for the umpteeth time today) so it should not have any affect at the moment.
[20:05] <BluesKaj> just a guess, i haven't used znc for a while
[20:05]  * acheronuk uses hexchat :/
[20:05] <DarinMiller> acheronuk: what is SASL, that's the part I don't understand
[20:06] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, I'm using Konversation on Yakkety as we speak
[20:06] <wxl> BluesKaj: you mean me :)
[20:06]  * DarinMiller thinking of going back to stone tablet and chisel.  Not as komplicated....
[20:06] <wxl> BluesKaj: you have the crashy problem?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> SASL requires a user acct/username and password
[20:06] <wxl> and a certificate, no?
[20:07] <acheronuk> wxl: if it does, the BNC handles that
[20:07] <BluesKaj> wxl, yeah sometimes when I quit 
[20:07] <wxl> BluesKaj: see if this fixes https://launchpad.net/~wxl/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu/+packages
[20:08] <wxl> as upstream describes it, it should "Fixed a bug causing various operations on server list data to crash, e.g. pressing "Edit" on a server sub-item in the Server List dialog.
[20:09] <wxl> valorie: since you're the OP on the bug that fixes, you might want to check too
[20:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kreport build #14: STILL FAILING in 6 min 3 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kreport/14/
[20:11] <valorie> wxl: I will comment once I test a bit more
[20:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kalzium build #137: NOW UNSTABLE in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kalzium/137/
[20:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalzium build #80: NOW UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalzium/80/
[20:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kreport build #17: STILL FAILING in 8 min 5 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kreport/17/
[20:12]  * DarinMiller 2 pass email account, ssh keys, gpg keys, kde account, lp account, irc account, bouncer account, sasl account (did I miss any????).  wtf??? why so fricken complicated.... just to fix packages
[20:13] <clivejo> LOL
[20:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kreport build #15: STILL FAILING in 6 min 36 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kreport/15/
[20:14] <BluesKaj> wxl, my vesion is fine now , it didn't crash when it quit so I'm leaving it as is.
[20:14] <BluesKaj> version
[20:16] <wxl> BluesKaj: fwiw i'm looking for testers to verify this will for an SRU. you can pop it into a vm if you like.
[20:17] <BluesKaj> wxl, sorry i don't do vms ..never had much luck with them 
[20:18] <BluesKaj> I'm dual booting yakkety and zesty atm
[20:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kalzium build #41: NOW UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kalzium/41/
[20:21] <DarinMiller> as per my irssi command line connection, my account connects without issue so I think my credentials are fine but I am totally stumped as to why I kannot konfigure konversation.  The website directions are simple.
[20:33] <BluesKaj> DarinMiller, check this out https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Configuring_SASL_authentication
[20:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kreport build #16: NOW UNSTABLE in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kreport/16/
[20:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kreport build #18: NOW UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kreport/18/
[20:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kreport build #15: STILL FAILING in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kreport/15/
[21:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kreport build #16: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kreport/16/
[21:03] <pedahzur> Trying to install kdesudo from Kubuntu Backports on 16.04.  It says it can't install kde-runtime.  When I try to install kde-runtime, I get this: https://gist.github.com/jkugler/33fa356d0e4d57f23b470163783bd96f I've noticed this with other packages I've tried to install as well, such as konqueror. Is kdesudo no longer in KDE? What does one use instead?
[21:09] <valorie> how about kdesu ?
[21:13] <BluesKaj> pedahzur, what method are you using to install ?
[21:14] <pedahzur> BluesKaj: apt-get install
[21:14] <BluesKaj> rgen use sudo
[21:14] <BluesKaj> then
[21:15] <BluesKaj> kdesudo is on;u used to call up gui files in the cli
[21:15] <pedahzur> BluesKaj: Well, yes, 'sudo apt-get install'
[21:16] <pedahzur> Yes, and apparently, in this case (usb-creator-kde) sudo worked even in the GUI.  But it seems odd that ther are so many broken packages.  Is it because of Kubuntu Backports + native packages?
[21:17] <BluesKaj> did you update and upgrade before adding the backports ppa ?
[21:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[21:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_konversation build #18: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_konversation/18/
[21:17] <pedahzur> 99% sure. It's been a while since I added the back ports.
[21:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[21:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_konversation build #18: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_konversation/18/
[21:23] <valorie> it is fine in Zesty: kdesudo is already the newest version (3.4.2.4+repack-2ubuntu4)
[21:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[21:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_konversation build #18: FIXED in 21 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_konversation/18/
[21:25] <acheronuk> no prob here with kdesudo and it deps in Xenial + backports
[21:26] <clivejo> oh dear
[21:26] <clivejo> my iCloud will be closed in 48 hours
[21:26] <clivejo> what a shame
[21:29] <acheronuk> pedahzur: ok here, so you have something peculiar blocking it http://paste.ubuntu.com/23675045/
[21:30] <pedahzur> acheronuk: Hmm...That's weird.  I wonder what I did...
[21:32] <acheronuk> clivejo: wow. that's a coincidence. had the same the other day on an iCloud account I never knew I had
[21:35] <valorie> my Mac was in the 90s
[21:35] <valorie> pretty sure I have no iCloud
[21:39]  * wxl enjoys his new standing desk at work
[21:41] <pedahzur> acheronuk: I forget how to get the breakdown that you posted in that pastebin.
[21:42] <valorie> those look like the result of apt-cache policy packagename
[21:48] <acheronuk> pedahzur: what does 'apt-get install kdelibs5-plugins' output?
[21:50] <acheronuk> ???
 apt-get
[21:51]  * acheronuk shrugs and doesn't give a ####
[21:56] <pedahzur> acheronuk: https://gist.github.com/jkugler/9bfed349deccc63b90ab23fff739e4e4
 +1 to acheronuk
[21:57] <pedahzur> acheronuk: policy output for kdelibs5-plugins https://gist.github.com/jkugler/32397f1a2db8daf6ffa092d26e143505
[21:57] <wxl> who else wants to check konversation in yakkety?
[21:57] <wxl> i mean YY
 OMG STFU
[21:58] <wxl> !language | tsimonq2 
 Shut The Frank Up, Shut The Freak Up
 *shrug*
[21:59] <wxl> too ambiguous to be sure
 :[
[22:00] <wxl> ahoneybun: tsimonq2: go test konversation in yakkety from my ppa!
[22:00] <wxl> vm
 On mobile
[22:00]  * valorie has no yakkety anymore -- the zesty version from clive's ppa is working great
 Will do wxl
[22:01] <wxl> aw fooey valorie 
[22:01] <valorie> and my xenial laptop is still SOL
 !language
 <ubottu> tsimonq2: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[22:01] <valorie> like the sun!
 Bah, if I can't get away with it, you can't either :P
[22:02]  * valorie accepts the reproof
[22:05] <clivejo> !info xdgurl
[22:05] <clivejo> !info xdgurl zesty
[22:05] <clivejo> LOL
[22:07] <valorie> clivejo: maybe 
[22:07] <valorie> dg-utils/zesty,zesty,now 1.1.1-1ubuntu2 all [installed]
[22:07] <valorie>   desktop integration utilities from freedesktop.org
[22:07] <valorie> pfff, bad paste
[22:07] <valorie> xdg-utils
[22:08] <acheronuk> pedahzur: that is ok, but I wanted to know what happens when you try to install kdelibs5-plugins
[22:09] <acheronuk> pedahzur: the packages it says won't be installed. what does it say if you use 'apt-get install' to try to install them?
[22:10] <pedahzur> acheronuk: For kdoctools: kdoctools : Depends: libkio5 (= 4:4.14.22-0ubuntu2~ubuntu16.04~ppa61) but it is not going to be installed
[22:11] <pedahzur> libkio5 : Depends: libstreamanalyzer0v5 (>= 0.7.8) but it is not going to be installed
 s/apt-get/apt/g
[22:11] <pedahzur> libstreamanalyzer0v5 : Depends: libclucene-core1v5 (>= 2.3.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
[22:12] <pedahzur> acheronuk: And to install liblucene-core1v5, it wants to remove a whole bunch of other liblucene stuff, as well as libreoffice-* (or just about "*") :)
[22:14] <wxl> ahoneybun: did i give you a link to my ppa
[22:14] <wxl> ?
[22:15] <acheronuk> pedahzur: hard to say for sure, but with thsoe packages not wanting to be installed it sounds like you have some problem with your installed packages that is not really KDE or backports related. or if it is, via a very very obscure path 
[22:19] <pedahzur> acheronuk: Hmm...I have the libreoffice PPA in my list, and it points (or pointed) to trusty.  So I seem to be running 5.2.1, but the latest in Xenial is 5.1.4.  I'll wipe LibreOffice, and install the version from Xenial (or at least from a PPA for Xenial).
[22:20] <acheronuk> pedahzur: well, having ppas from a different ubuntu release is never going to help. they may contain incompatible dependencies or even packages
[22:21] <pedahzur> acheronuk: The odd thing was that it was disabled (commented out). I wonder if I already had a later release when I did 14.04 -> 16.04, so it didn't downgrade it to the 16.04 libreoffice version, thus kept some wonky packages around.
[22:24] <acheronuk> well, the ubuntu ugrage scripts tend to just disable ppas on upgrade, but don't touch what has been installed from them
[22:24] <acheronuk> *upgrade
[22:24] <clivejo> whats going on with kdev-php and kdevelop-php?
[22:24] <acheronuk> going on?
[22:25] <clivejo> yup
 In what regard?
[22:26] <clivejo> why are they both there
[22:27] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/search/?q=-php
[22:27] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdevelop-php/
[22:27] <clivejo> is disabled
[22:28] <pedahzur> acheronuk: Yeah, that makes sense. It disabled the PPA, saw that the libreoffice (installed in 14.04) was a later version than the version it had, so left that alone too...which caused a bunch of conflicts later on. :)
[22:29] <acheronuk> clivejo: they changed the git repo name, so the old job was just disable instead of removed?
[22:30] <pedahzur> acheronuk: Oh looky! kdesudo installed just fine! Thanks for the debugging. I thought this was a dev issue, but it wasn't, but you helped me anyway. I greatly appreciate it!  And I added tools to my debugging toolkit.
[22:30] <clivejo> acheronuk: no idea and too tired to look at it
[22:30] <acheronuk> clivejo: I remember you asking me to change the LP repo names, but at that point I didn't have KCI access to change jobs AFAIK, so that side was you?
[22:31] <acheronuk> clivejo: no problem
[22:31] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kdevelop-php https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kdev-php
[22:31] <clivejo> but we have two :/
[22:31] <acheronuk> clivejo: must be thinking of something else then!
[22:32] <valorie> clivejo: one old and one new?
[22:32] <clivejo> I dunno, my head hurts
[22:32] <acheronuk> I guess it was mirrored to the new name, but again old one not removed
[22:34] <acheronuk> pedahzur: glad that is sorted :)
[23:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdev-php build #44: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdev-php/44/
[23:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdev-php build #43: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdev-php/43/
[23:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdev-php build #43: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdev-php/43/
[23:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kolf build #167: FIXED in 14 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kolf/167/
[23:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kexi build #27: NOW UNSTABLE in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/27/
[23:56] <wxl> clivejo: fyi in case you haven't noticed, i've only got one test so far. still working on the sru bug itself, but jesus work has been nuts
[23:56] <clivejo> no problem, my head it not working tonight anyway