[00:00] <allspork> nacc: I see. I'll just pin for now then. Thanks for your help :)
[00:05] <Bashing-om> gwozt: If you boot to a terminal is the keyboard good there ?
[00:17] <gwozt> Bashing-om, no it also doesn't work in terminal
[00:19] <stan_man_can> i downloaded a windows 10 ISO from microsoft and need to burn it to a USB key, how do i?
[00:19] <stan_man_can> start up disk creator won't load the ISO when i select it
[00:19] <stan_man_can> i tried using DD but windows won't boot from it
[00:20] <Bashing-om> gwozt: Then this thougt: in normal situations Plymouth - the splash screen manager- is responsible for reading keyboard input. vt.handoff= and having "splash"  on the command-line are needed to make it behave itself .
[00:20] <OerHeks> stan_man_can, etcher maybe, no guarantee http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source
[00:22] <gwozt> Bashing-om, ok sir, now which commands do i have to execute in tminal?
[00:22] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, giving it a sh ot thanks
[00:22] <gwozt> terminal*
[00:22] <stan_man_can> also, how can I go about using bluetooth headphones on Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:22] <stan_man_can> Bluetooth can see them
[00:22] <stan_man_can> but won't let me pair
[00:24] <Bashing-om> gwozt: Bear with me think'n what we can grep for .
[00:25] <gwozt> Bashing-om, i've seen some solution on net which suggests upgrading to gnome 16
[00:26] <gwozt> Bashing-om, do you think would this solve the problem?
[00:27] <OerHeks> gwozt, 4 missing keys, in one group, p o ı u ... hardware failure, or do they work in an other OS?
[00:27] <gwozt> i don't think it is a hardware failure because right now they are working
[00:28] <gwozt> OerHeks, they stop working time to time
[00:36] <Bashing-om> gwozt: The above is but one possibility - Uf you have nakde changes to grub. I can find no way easier than just looking at the kernel boot line in grub . But that takes rebooting to grub to "look" .
[00:42] <Bashing-om> gwozt: Intermittent is a dufferent thing . Maybe it is a particulat app that is capturing the keystrikes ?? Maybe have 'xev' running in a terminal and see what the terminal sees in this event ?
[00:44] <ajeffco> Hello.  During a normal BIOS install, we have the option to change to a minimal install via F4.  What is the equivalent during a UEFI install?
[00:55] <RJ45> a whole boncha people from here are now famous  https://youtu.be/97NcG8hj9WE?t=1m30s
[00:55] <RJ45> buncha*
[00:56] <genii> We don't do it for the fame.
[00:56]  * genii makes more coffee
[01:02] <genii> RJ45: BTW, if that's what you're actually watching, then you may find this series interesting. https://youtu.be/JnSz-Hb9LQY
[01:03] <RJ45> genii: I just watch everything Linus releases
[01:03] <stan_man_can> Anyone know how to use bluetooth headphones?
[01:03] <stan_man_can> I've got them paired to my desktop but can't find a way to use them as audio out
[01:03] <teward> stan_man_can: audio settings.  you then select them as the audio out item.
[01:04] <teward> if they don't display there then i'd say something's up on your system or the headphones, because they're not getting recognized
[01:04] <stan_man_can> teward, If I go into "Sound" the headphones aren't listed in Output
[01:04] <stan_man_can> I plugged a bluetooth adapter in and it was recognized immediately, not sure if I need to do anything extra
[01:05] <teward> stan_man_can: yeah you need to pair the bluetooth headphones with your computer over bluetooth
[01:06] <stan_man_can> teward, so I go into Bluetooth Devices and it lists PXC 550 (Unknown) and then a mac address
[01:06] <stan_man_can> I right click and say Setup Device and then "Select pairing method to use: Pair Device"
[01:07] <stan_man_can> Says pairing in progress. then Congratulations, device successfully added
[01:09] <stan_man_can> but still not listned in Output
[01:11] <RJ45> Xubuntu -> Lubuntu -> Kubuntu -> Debian -> FreeDOS -> (like 100 other OS variants) -> Ubuntu  /shitpost
[01:26] <sysconfig> hi there
[01:26] <sysconfig> hi
[01:27] <sysconfig> I have a problem
[01:27] <skweek> where is the linux-firmware-nonfree package for xenial ? I can't find it and its weird...
[01:28] <sysconfig> i have a prob
[01:29] <paulo> ola
[01:30] <skweek> i'm trying to follow the ubuntu wiki...
[01:30] <skweek> but I can't find linux-firmware-nonfree...
[01:30] <omarramo> hey guys on ubuntu 16.04 when trying to run  apt-get update I get the error failed to fetch ... URL ... hashsum missmatch
[01:31] <omarramo> I tried everything on that I found on the internet on this issue but nothing worked
[01:31] <omarramo> what can I do_
[01:32] <skweek> I read the firmware link, followed the ubuntu docs to add the repo https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/configuration.html which says to look at the sources.list... well it actually says that the multiverse would be enabled by default...
[01:33] <skweek> which is where I would think to find linux-firmware-nonfree...
[01:33] <Bashing-om> skweek: Per: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-firmware-nonfree&searchon=names&suite=xenial-updates&section=all it is no longer in the repo .
[01:33] <vfw> omarramo: sudo apt-get clean
[01:34] <omarramo> vfw: doesn't work either
[01:34] <sysconfig> a question: how can I prevent applications to gain access to the network whenever they like ?
[01:34] <skweek> so I have this post up on askubuntu ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/860726/s530-bluetooth-earpiece-detected-as-keyboard
[01:35] <skweek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23670904/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/23670907/ and this makes me think that there aren't drivers loaded
[01:35] <Bashing-om> omarramo: Gave you changed your mirror to see if it is a sync issue with your present mirror ?
[01:35] <sysconfig> any clue?
[01:35] <skweek> which lead me to looking for proprietary firmware
[01:35] <omarramo> Bashing-om: yes, I first had the german ones then used the normal ones
[01:36] <vfw> omarramo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-packages-list-due-to-a-hash-sum-mismatch-error
[01:37] <omarramo> vfw: also not working. although its giving me less errors now
[01:37] <omarramo> less of the same
[01:38] <Bashing-om> omarramo: Tried ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt update ' ?
[01:38] <vfw> omarramo: What's the last one?
[01:39] <omarramo> Bashing-om: yup, also nothing :(
[01:41] <stan_man_can> well
[01:41] <stan_man_can> i remember why i hate bluetooth shit so much
[01:42] <sysconfig> good
[01:42] <stan_man_can> how the hell can i not have these stupid things working after an hour
[01:42] <sysconfig> a mistery
[01:42] <omarramo> oh man I am working on the error for hours now
[01:42] <omarramo> I'm gonna cry
[01:42] <sysconfig> take my kleenex
[01:44] <skweek> can you suggest anything Bashing-om ?
[01:44] <stan_man_can> they pair with everything else fine
[01:44] <stan_man_can> Ubuntu is the only thing that's not working
[01:46] <omarramo> anyone got any other idea?
[01:47] <sphrak> does anyone have a clue as to why I randomly get "rsync: [sender] write error: Broken pipe (32)
[01:47] <sphrak> when using rsync 3.1.1 on ubuntu 16.04
[01:48] <sphrak> im using it over ssh, so local to remote machine.
[01:49] <vfw> omarramo: sudo apt -f install
[01:50] <omarramo> vfw: I actually found a solution just now, I changed to a repo that is basically next door to me and it seems to work
[01:50] <omarramo> neither german repos or the normal ones worked though
[01:50] <vfw> omarramo: Ok. Good.
[01:51] <omarramo> vfw: so next time somebody has this issue just tell them to try out repos
[01:51] <omarramo> thanks for your help
[01:51] <Bashing-om> skweek: No, sorry . No experience here with your issue .
[01:53] <matrix> hi
[01:56] <Marta> Hello guys
[01:57] <Marta> I need help! After rebooting my computer, a lot of files are missing! For example, I use virt-manager and when I was going to launch it, It says
[01:57] <Marta> "The program 'virt-manager' is currently not installed."
[01:58] <Marta> What happened, please? It is very important
[01:58] <Marta> I'm very afraid
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Marta: 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' all run clean ?
[02:00] <Marta> Bashing-om: let me try please
[02:03] <nholloway> Hey, y'all. Is there an Ubuntu Core channel?
[02:03] <freefall> how do i get the auto update for the sync of the time clock to work.. my computer battery is flake an the clock isnt keeping up with right time.. ntp dont seem to be working right
[02:04] <Marta> Bashing-om: this is the end: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:06] <Marta> Bashing-om: a lot of software is missing. Other applications are uninstalled too! This is very weird!
[02:06] <Bashing-om> Marta: That is a good thing .. and install -f was ^ result .. dpkg returned only to prompt ?
[02:08] <Marta> yes Bashing-om , nothing special
[02:09] <ambient> Anyone here use an AMD apu with an ATI GPU and have the latter enabled in blender, or is that still a dream?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> Marta: K.. Yeah wierd ! .. what release are we working with ?
[02:11] <Marta> Bashing-om: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Marta: Pastebin ' dpkg -l virt-manager ; apt-cache policy virt-manager ' . As a place to start looking .
[02:13] <Bashing-om> !info virt-manager xenial
[02:18] <Marta> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23671240/
[02:19] <Bashing-om> Marta: look'n .
[02:19] <Marta> A lot of other applications are uninstalled, (I use Yakuake for example, and it is uninstalled now too :'( )
[02:22] <Bashing-om> Marta: what returns ' cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -i universe ' ? in a pastebin
[02:24] <GALL0> so I have a bluetooth mouse with a bluetooth dongle, but Ubuntu doesnt recognize it. nor are the bluetooth settings available to highlight
[02:24] <GALL0> anyone have an Idea how to turn these settings on?
[02:24] <Marta> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23671252/ (don't be mad at me because using kubuntu please)
[02:25] <GALL0> 16.04.1 LTS server with Ubuntu-desktop installed
[02:29] <Bashing-om> Marta: (k)ubuntu is pretty . // Access to the repo is not the issue . I do not have a clue what could have happened here. So far we have found no faults . What results ' sudo apt install virt-manager ' ?
[02:32] <giuseppe_> jhù
[02:32] <giuseppe_> ciao
[02:32] <Marta> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23671280/
[02:33] <Marta> Bashing-om: I really appreciate your help :) If we can't find nothing, I will try to finish my work with a new machine and reinstall everything. I so sad but well
[02:33] <giuseppe_> someone helps me?
[02:34] <giuseppe_> heeeeyyyyy
[02:34] <sintre> giuseppe_ whats yyour native language
[02:34] <giuseppe_> italian
[02:35] <giuseppe_> yours?
[02:35] <sintre> i'm sure there is a italian ubuntu channel just don't have command to make bot advertise it atm
[02:35] <sintre> english
[02:35] <sintre> might help you a bit more in there
[02:36] <giuseppe_> i can try
[02:36] <sintre> !italian
[02:36] <sintre> there we go
[02:37] <Bashing-om> Marta: That too is smooth .. ya got me ! All I can suggest is to RE-install apps as you find them missing . This is a 1st for me !
[02:40] <TesterTom> hello all
[02:47] <KODY928021> I'm having experience weird network problem. would you please spare your time to check my issue? http://pastebin.com/5VELDDdA
[02:50] <vins0n> So the "ping" is OK for using ?
[02:50] <KODY928021> no ping using public ip doesn't work
[02:50] <KODY928021> private is works
[02:52] <steve__> hello, a recent 16 LTS install freezes when it boots, saying "/dev/sda clean" and then listing files and blocks. Can anyone help with this?
[02:53] <eggy[m]> what have you done recently?
[02:53] <eggy[m]> to ur install that is
[02:54] <steve__> eggy[m]: it was brand new. Only OS, erased everything, etc.
[02:55] <Marta> Bashing-om: thank you =)
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Marta: Well. Ain't done a thing; less hold your hand . If ya find the cause please advise :)
[03:04] <Marta> Bashing-om: Will do!
[03:05] <Guest40297> hello ?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> Guest40297: Support ?
[03:06] <Guest40297> ?
[03:07] <Guest40297> what's up ?
[03:07] <uxfi> hello Guest40297
[03:23] <rgauny> I have a single instance Ubuntu Autopilot running with lxd's.......when i try to take a snapshot in the dashboard it fails silently.....but in nova-compute.log i get ImageBadRequest: Request of image 2654f936-ce1c-4d8b-a6b1-bdfbb90bd642 got BadRequest response: 400 Bad Request: Container format is not specified. (HTTP 400)
[03:23] <rgauny> any ideas on how to get around this?
[03:24] <rgauny> this same error occurs when trying to create an image with packer based off another image
[03:25] <bschilke> looks pretty dead in here rgauny
[03:25] <rgauny> aye lol
[03:25] <bschilke> i sure as hell can't help :(
[03:25] <rgauny> HA
[03:26] <rgauny> will i appreciate the chat though :)
[03:26] <rgauny> err well
[03:26] <bschilke> :)
[03:26] <bschilke> autopilot looks cool
[03:26] <bschilke> a docker-type tool?
[03:27] <rgauny> MaaS->Landscape->AutoPilot Openstack
[03:27] <rgauny> single will use lxd's as hypervisor
[03:28] <rgauny> pretty sweet
[03:28] <bschilke> you lost me at maas -- had to google it
[03:29] <bschilke> sounds cool though
[03:30] <rgauny> Ubuntu MaaS is pretty slick....thinking about putting it throughout my lab
[03:32] <bschilke> what kind of lab do you have?
[03:32] <bschilke> it sounds sick -- control of up to 40k machines.  jesus
[03:32] <studio-user772> How do you reset your giu after messing with compiz
[03:33] <bschilke> what distribution are you on?
[03:33] <studio-user772> idk what happened but i ativated compiz.  and poof all my buttons disappeared.
[03:34] <rgauny> have a small lab at dell....about 1500 nodes
[03:37] <bschilke> cool.  do you offer cloud services? conduct research?
[03:37] <rgauny> research
[03:38] <studio-user772> Is there a giu reset command??
[03:38] <bschilke> studio-user772, if you're in regular old ubuntu this seemslike it might work:  "unity &> /dev/null & disown"
[03:38] <studio-user772> compiz problems??
[03:38] <bschilke> in terminal
[03:39] <studio-user772> terminal froze
[03:39] <studio-user772> but that has been a problem since messing with compiz
[03:40] <bschilke> what desktop mgr are you using?
[03:41] <studio-user772> sorry newbie here..... xfce i think
[03:43] <bschilke> you don't want to restart your laptop?
[03:44] <studio-user772> ive tried that
[03:44] <Bashing-om> studio-user772: To know what the environment is : ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' .
[03:44] <xangua> studio-user772: you tried that and then?
[03:45] <xangua> studio-user772: what exactly did you previously do, did you follow any guide?
[03:46] <studio-user772> everything i type in terminal makes it freeze
[03:46] <studio-user772> all i can do is close terminal
[03:46] <studio-user772> may just reinstall?
[03:46] <bschilke> damn
[03:47] <studio-user772> ubuntu with xfce seemed like a bad idea when i started
[03:47] <xangua> You typed what? studio-user772
[03:48] <studio-user772> lol anything
[03:48] <lapion> studio-user772, you are talking about a virtual X-Terminal ? That is a terminal running in a X-Window ?
[03:48] <studio-user772> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[03:48] <studio-user772> ls
[03:48] <studio-user772> ..
[03:48] <studio-user772> any command
[03:48] <xangua>  studio-user772 Did you try: xfwmr4 --replace
[03:48] <studio-user772> froze
[03:49] <studio-user772> but ill give it time
[03:49] <xangua> studio-user772: you're not being very helpful here
[03:49] <studio-user772> I just tried
[03:49] <bschilke> studio-user772, you've restarted your machine you said, right?
[03:49] <studio-user772> yes
[03:49] <xangua> Sorry studio-user772 (autocorrect)I mean v xfwm4 --replace
[03:50] <xangua> Xfwm4 --replace
[03:50] <bschilke> doesn't sound good, but i'm far from an expert
[03:50] <bschilke> how long have you had this installation of linux running?
[03:53] <Batman5014> can someone help extracting rar file into specific folder?
[03:56] <manufactur3d> unrar file.rar ~/thisiswhereiputmyunrardfiles
[03:56] <Batman5014> thanks
[03:56] <studio-user772> Xfwm4 --replace
[03:56] <studio-user772> terminal locks up still
[03:57] <studio-user772> ok let me give you link to what guide i followed
[03:58] <studio-user772> http://askubuntu.com/questions/702858/how-to-correctly-install-compiz-on-xfce-4-12
[03:59] <studio-user772> fresh install new ubuntu studio
[03:59] <studio-user772> follow guide to the T
[04:00] <studio-user772> Editing a conf file might be my only option.   Terminal not working...
[04:12] <vins0n> test
[04:20] <vfw> stux|work: WHat exactly are you trying to do?
[04:20] <shref> всем привет
[04:21] <vfw> stux|work: Sorry, wrong nick
[04:22] <wafflejock> !ru
[04:24] <nedstark> Я Марко Рамиус, Вильнюсский воспитателем в Linux
[04:46] <mainlymono> I'm a Mac user running Ubuntu on VirtualBox.
[04:47] <deus402> i'm setting up encfs, and I am looking for speed / cpu performance more than security. i selected the blowfish cipher with 128bit key, but i'm not sure which block size will give me better performance. i'm inclined to think 4096 bytes would be better so it's doing more at once, but this is purely speculation.
[04:48] <zionlord> It is in every room of my house.
[04:48] <zionlord> I bought 16 copies.
[04:49] <zionlord> Translated into English, the PROTOCOLS OF LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION.
[04:49] <zionlord> What are you going to do about it?
[04:50] <zionlord> I have a right to read what I want to read.
[04:51] <wafflejock> mainlymono, is there a problem?
[04:51] <wafflejock> deus402, probably best to just do a little benchmarking
[04:53] <zionlord> I bought the entire supply at Amazon when I put in my 16 orders..
[04:53] <zionlord> Cleaned them right out.
[04:55] <mainlymono> wafflejock, no problem. Just wanted to share it. Been enjoying playing with Ubuntu and other Linux distros in a while. Finding it really convenient to have a VM of an OS an fullly manipulate and test. Also, I do graphic design and using software like Inkspace, GIMP, Krita, MyPaint, Pencil2D, Scribus, Synfig, Blender and others feel better in a Linux distro. :D
[04:57] <zionlord> It's the most important book I own.
[04:57] <zionlord> The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. It's all true. 100% factual, accurate.
[05:02] <zionlord> We as humans are being conspired against by Zion Lords. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZG5Zfm-FQg
[05:03] <wafflejock> deus402, just did it with 4096 it took 17s to copy a big iso over to it with 128 it took 38s
[05:03] <wafflejock> deus402, seems like 4096 is faster at least with the limited test of copying one big file
[05:04] <deus402> excellent, thanks wafflejock.
[05:05] <wafflejock> deus402, no prob
[05:26] <Batman5014> anyone no anything about emulators? wanting to load a emulator to play mario on xbox 360
[05:26] <zionlord> I called myself zionlord because in every room of my home I got a copy of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
[05:27] <zionlord> Pisses off the establishment :P
[05:29] <zionlord> the hexagram with the sword through is tattooed on my anus
[05:31] <zionlord> i'm not a white supremacist, i'm goy against zion supremacist conspiracies against humanity
[05:42] <litmasmerry> hello
[05:43] <litmasmerry> hello
[05:51] <Toggi3> did a little digging aleady, has any work been done to implement ubuntu LXD + stonith/fencing in pacemaker??
[05:53] <Toggi3> like there is the RHEV REST API, or fence_virtd/fence_xvm, for example
[06:05] <LiftLeft> hello
[06:05] <ubp> hello
[06:06] <LiftLeft> I'm just got a new laptop. I cloned my old laptop's disk to the new one. The wifi isn't working. It was working under windows
[06:07] <ubp> what have you tried so far?
[06:08] <newcoder> http://www.earthvpn.com/linux-desktop-pptp-setup-guide/ , where can I get earthvpn server address?
[06:08] <LiftLeft> ubp: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. basically it
[06:09] <LiftLeft> also I'm using lubuntu 16.04
[06:09] <ubp> how does iwconfig look? is a wireless interface showing up?
[06:09] <LiftLeft> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/511464/24733991
[06:10] <LiftLeft> ubp: that's what iwconfig says
[06:10] <wine_user> Hi, I was trying to install wine 1.8 by watching a web tutorial.But now I have broken dependcies on my pc. Take a look: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23671842/. #winehq told me it is a wine problem because those packages are in wine repos. Need help please
[06:10] <wine_user> it is a ubuntu problem*
[06:13] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, looks like wifi is okay just not connected what's the problem looking like? can you see networks in the wifi drop down do you not see any wifi drop down?
[06:14] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: on lubuntu's wifi selector it says that the wifi is disabled. If I press enable it doesn't do anything
[06:16] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, what do you get if you try ifup wl01
[06:16] <LiftLeft> the command?
[06:16] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, you should be able to also do, iwlist wl01 scan, to see a list of networks
[06:16] <ubp> yes
[06:16] <wafflejock> yeah
[06:16] <wafflejock> if the interface is up you should be able to scan
[06:17] <LiftLeft> it says "Unknown interface wl01"
[06:17] <ubp> wlo1
[06:17] <ubp> shouldnt be zero
[06:17] <wafflejock> oh
[06:17] <wafflejock> sorry
[06:18] <LiftLeft> say's the same thing
[06:18] <ubp> well that is interesting
[06:19] <wafflejock> hmm okay guess try it with ifconfig, sudo ifconfig wlo1 up
[06:20] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: it doesn't say anything
[06:20] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, try the scan see if that says anything
[06:20] <wafflejock> iwlist wlo1 scan, should list networks it can see
[06:20] <LiftLeft> I can't enable wifi
[06:21] <ubp> checked for a hardware switch?
[06:21] <LiftLeft> http://pastebin.com/xwzVsjUi <-- what ifconfig says
[06:21] <wafflejock> does the scan command say anything? it should probably give more info than a disabled wifi icon
[06:22] <LiftLeft> "scan"
[06:22] <LiftLeft> ?
[06:22] <wafflejock> iwlist wlo1 scan
[06:22] <LiftLeft> oh
[06:22] <wafflejock> in the terminal
[06:22] <wafflejock> maybe it won't tell us anything but worth a shot
[06:22] <LiftLeft> wlo1      Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[06:23] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, yeah not sure really http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90778/how-to-bring-up-a-wi-fi-interface-from-a-command-line
[06:23] <ubp> well this eliminates a large array of basic problems
[06:24] <ubp> on to the less basic issues now
[06:24] <LiftLeft> I think ifconfig says that wlo1 is Ethernet
[06:24] <LiftLeft> I was thinking drivers
[06:25] <LiftLeft> was the problem
[06:25] <ubp> laptop model?
[06:25] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, my ifconfig lists my wifi as ethernet as well
[06:26] <LiftLeft> one sec
[06:26] <ubp> it's normal
[06:26] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23671919/ that's a working one for comparison
[06:27] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, we could start looking at syslog/dmesg, also could find the service for starting up networking and stop it and run it with debugging on so it outputs a lot more to the logs, but maybe ubp has some better steps first
[06:28] <ubp> well, the concerning part for me is that iwconfig lists an adapter but ifup won't recognize it
[06:29] <wafflejock> pretty sure it's just /etc/init/networking start or stop to get that entirely up or down but maybe something more direct
[06:30] <LiftLeft> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-17-3-laptop-intel-core-i7-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-textured-linear-gradient-grooves-in-black/5657870.p?skuId=5657870 <-- it's this one
[06:32] <ubp> okay, we'll at least look at the drivers. enter lspci
[06:33] <LiftLeft> ubp: https://hastebin.com/oguyadomac.go
[06:34] <ubp> now lspci -vv -s 02:00.0
[06:34] <LiftLeft> https://hastebin.com/cigudujavu.pas
[06:35] <LiftLeft> ubp ^
[06:38] <ubp> LiftLeft give this a read https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162026
[06:39] <wafflejock> found another that might be related, also dated though https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2194306
[06:41] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, there's also an airplane mode button on the function keys apparently you try toggling that?
[06:41] <LiftLeft> yes
[06:41] <ubp> those never work on my linux installations anyway
[06:42] <LiftLeft> i dunno doesn't do anything
[06:42] <LiftLeft> I tried with and without the function key
[06:42] <wafflejock> yeah always good to check the simple things
[06:42] <ubp> usually physical switches only make a difference on my installs.
[06:42] <wafflejock> softkeys are less likely to be working without drivers picking that stuff up and doing something, hard switches are usually more a problem
[06:43] <wafflejock> yah
[06:43] <LiftLeft> I don
[06:43] <LiftLeft> I don't see any switches on my laptop for wifi
[06:44] <ubp> tried anything from the link i sent you? I didnt check to see if the info was too dated to apply to now yet
[06:45] <LiftLeft> no not yet
[06:45] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, you can maybe try monitoring the output of syslog or monitor the journalctl since you're on 16.04 and try to restart networking and see if it says anything strange about the adapter
[06:45] <wafflejock> it's weird though driver is loaded everything looks on the up and up with what it says in the manual for the hardware and everything just no worky
[06:48] <ubp> give that link a shot, make sure you get the linux driver for 2.6.24 and later
[06:48] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, yeah if I run that, rfkill list all, it shows nothing blocked with my wifi or bluetooth, if I go into bluetooth settings and toggle it off it shows that one as yes
[06:48] <LiftLeft> ubp: I'll try that
[06:48] <LiftLeft> brb
[06:52] <wafflejock> !info rfkill
[06:53] <yordanpd>  /server irc.all4y.net
[06:53] <wafflejock> hmm does ubottu have a way to get man pages?
[06:56] <hadleigh> hello all
[06:56] <ubp> hello
[06:56] <wafflejock> https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=%22man+page%22 no :(
[06:56] <Dolmen0> hello
[06:56] <wafflejock> hello
[06:56] <hadleigh> what can i use to change a .img file to a mp4 or mkv
[06:56] <Dolmen0> how are you
[06:56] <hadleigh> i am goodand your self?
[06:57] <Dolmen0> pretty good
[06:57] <wafflejock> hadleigh, img file is usually like a copy of a disk or partition so you would typically want to mount that or copy it to a partition and then load the data out of it
[06:57] <wafflejock> hadleigh, how'd you get the img?
[06:58] <hadleigh> wafflejock: on my friends hard drive i have barrowed
[06:58] <hadleigh> ;)
[06:58] <k_sze[work]> On Ubuntu Trusty 14.04, how do I temporarily shutdown the desktop environment (until I reboot or start it again in the terminal)?
[06:58] <dikiaap> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[06:59] <wafflejock> heh okay yeah I mean you can run the "file" command on the img file and get some more info spit back about what type of file it is I think
[07:00] <hadleigh> plays on my computer have not tried my television yet but it is a new LG smart tv
[07:00] <wafflejock> hadleigh, looks like there is a package called acetoneiso that'll let you mount img files looks like
[07:00] <wafflejock> !acetoneiso
[07:01] <wafflejock> !info acetoneiso
[07:01] <Odd> Anyone who could explain why this error/issue shows up? http://paste.md-5.net/tucenahili.scala Running a clean "Xubuntu Desktop 14.04 "Trusty Tahr" (XFCE + x2go) (64bits)".
[07:01] <ubp> k_zse stop the service for your de/dm possibly?
[07:02] <wafflejock> hadleigh, think you'd need to mount the disk image somewhere and then see what file types are actually in it and either just pull them out or use something to convert them (avconv or ffmpeg or some gui for that)
[07:02] <ubp> Odd updated repos?
[07:02] <xXEoflaOEXx> Odd, do apt-get update before you install any software.
[07:03] <Odd> ubp: That's not the correct install, you mean? I have very little expertise on the field of Linux, which is what I'm trying to improve.
[07:03] <Odd> Do I have to do that between software installs?
[07:04] <xXEoflaOEXx> Odd, Run apt-get update once, then install software, hen there is the new update for the software, do this again.
[07:05] <ubp> apt-get update will update the list of locations that apt-get tries to install software from. Good to run every day or two, before installing an new package
[07:06] <Odd> Uh, nono. I'm installing multiple things as I'm trying to learn how to set up some stuff properly
[07:06] <Odd> I've already done apt-get update once, when I installed a screen and unzip.
[07:07] <xXEoflaOEXx> These packages that you are trying to install may not be found in Ubuntu 14.04 repositories.
[07:07] <abhishek> hi
[07:07] <abhishek> for some reason I am getting no sound suddenly
[07:08] <abhishek> http://dpaste.com/2F02J3G
[07:08] <abhishek> any ideas?
[07:08] <OERIAS> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME??
[07:08] <OERIAS> oops
[07:08] <OERIAS> Sorry for the caps
[07:08] <ubp> oooh, that sound card issue almost looks fun
[07:08] <Dolmen0> what do you need?
[07:09] <OERIAS> I am trying to update, but I am getting this:
[07:09] <OERIAS> http://pastebin.com/
[07:09] <OERIAS> hold on....
[07:09] <ubp>  heh.
[07:09] <xXEoflaOEXx> abhishek, Are your sound card placed correctly? Or you are running on a speaker?
[07:09] <OERIAS> Here it goes : http://pastebin.com/P5tnSFpH
[07:09] <Dolmen0> have you tried going to pastebin?
[07:09] <OERIAS> ^ I get this error
[07:10] <ledeni> Odd, add --->sudo add-apt-repository ppa:openjdk-r/ppa
[07:10] <ubp> abhishek: laptop? desktop? custom soundcard?
[07:10] <abhishek> xXEoflaOEXx, I have tried using laptop's speaker as well headphones
[07:10] <wafflejock> abhishek, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure has worked for me in the past
[07:10] <Odd> That worked. Thank you ledeni. :)
[07:11] <xXEoflaOEXx> OERIAS, Papirus pack PPA on Xenial on AMD64 is not found.
[07:11] <OERIAS> thanks xXEoflaOEXx , I'll turn it off
[07:12] <xXEoflaOEXx> abhishek, Are the appropriate drivers for sound card installed?
[07:12] <abhishek> ubp, laptop
[07:12] <linuxuser69> hello , in opensuse language packages are sapareted for example vlc-lang.rpm contains all the languages for the package vlc.rpm. but how this is done in ubuntu ? are languages contained in the same program language or it's sapareted ? say for example VLC I noticed that I can change its interface language without downloaing any extra packages .. how it that possible ?
[07:13] <LiftLeft> ubp: I get compiling errors when I try https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2169602&page=2&p=12770984#post12770984
[07:14] <ubp> LiftLeft okay. let me have a go then
[07:14] <LiftLeft> cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
[07:15] <abhishek> xXEoflaOEXx, not sure. It has always worked before.
[07:15] <abhishek> xXEoflaOEXx, http://dpaste.com/1AYNDAS
[07:16] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, what do you get for, rfkill list all
[07:16] <ubp> LiftLeft, okay, i'm getting them too. i'll take a look
[07:16] <wafflejock> linuxuser69, there are language packs here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=language-pack&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all I'm not sure how this works on a per application basis though
[07:17] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: https://hastebin.com/berodaxowa.coffeescript
[07:17] <ubp> well there's an issue. hah
[07:17] <wafflejock> linuxuser69, ah http://askubuntu.com/questions/149876/how-can-i-install-one-language-by-command-line
[07:18] <xXEoflaOEXx> abhishek, I think that you must install the appropriate sound card driver, that works best for you.
[07:18] <LiftLeft> so
[07:18] <LiftLeft> some software is blocking it?
[07:18] <ubp> try rfkill unblock 1
[07:18] <wafflejock> ^^
[07:18] <wafflejock> I was too slow :)
[07:19] <LiftLeft> ok?
[07:19] <ubp> check wifi again
[07:19] <ubp> lets see if that does anything for you
[07:19] <LiftLeft> nope
[07:19] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, rfkill list all, still the same?
[07:20] <LiftLeft> yes
[07:20] <abhishek> what should I do http://dpaste.com/1AYNDAS?
[07:20] <abhishek> no sound
[07:21] <ledeni> abhishek, check bios
[07:22] <abhishek> ledeni, what in bios?
[07:22] <ledeni> abhishek, check for sound card
[07:22] <abhishek>  ledeni how?
[07:23] <abhishek> it suddenly stopped working.
[07:23] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, try, rfkill unblock all, then rfkill list all again, just did it here with my wifi soft blocked and it unblocked it.. also check dmesg output after that see if it says anything interesting about the wifi
[07:23] <ledeni> abhishek, could be option for sound card
[07:23] <ledeni> abhishek,dual boot?
[07:24] <abhishek> ledeni, no
[07:24] <abhishek> ledeni, I don't understand what you need me to check in the bios?
[07:24] <ducasse> abhishek: what does 'aplay -l' give you?
[07:25] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: https://hastebin.com/zerigaguge.hs
[07:25] <ubp> ducasse previous paste it said no soundcards found
[07:26] <LiftLeft> rfkill unblock all didn't do anything
[07:28] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, hmm okay all those pcie errors are apparently due to some skylake issue that you can work around but I don't think it's related and don't see any sore thumbs about the wifi regarding pci errors http://askubuntu.com/questions/771899/pcie-bus-error-severity-corrected
[07:28] <abhishek> ducasse, http://dpaste.com/1AYNDAS
[07:28] <LiftLeft> ok
[07:28] <abhishek> sry I got disconnected.
[07:28] <abhishek> Please post again if possible.
[07:29] <abhishek> ducasse,  I am stuck at this http://dpaste.com/1AYNDAS
[07:33] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, looking for how to start a particular service in systemd with a lot more verbose logging I know there's a way to have it do it for a particular service with some environment variable but having some trouble finding it
[07:33] <ledeni> abhishek, try to install linux headers 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers*'
[07:34] <LiftLeft> ok
[07:35] <ubp> i'll have to bail out for tonight though, hopefull wafflejock can get your wifi up and running LiftLeft
[07:36] <LiftLeft> ok
[07:36] <abhishek> ledeni, *?
[07:36] <LiftLeft> thanks
[07:37] <ledeni> abhishek, try to install linux headers 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers'
[07:37] <abhishek> ledeni, which one uname-r?
[07:37] <ledeni> abhishek, yes
[07:37] <abhishek> ledeni, it is already installed
[07:39] <ledeni> abhishek, witch laptop?
[07:40] <abhishek> ledeni, hp pavilion ab 15-ab549tx
[07:45] <abhishek> http://askubuntu.com/questions/863774/no-sound-suddenly-16-04
[07:49] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, holy cow that took me forever to find https://coreos.com/os/docs/latest/network-config-with-networkd.html#debugging-networkd not for ubuntu instructions but the SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL I think is what I was searching for
[07:50] <LiftLeft> ok
[07:51] <LiftLeft> I'll do that
[07:54] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: I got a bunch of log like text when I did "journalctl -b -u systemd-networkd", is that what you are trying to get?
[07:54] <abhishek> http://askubuntu.com/questions/863774/no-sound-suddenly-16-04
[07:54] <abhishek> any guesses?
[07:56] <mbuf> Using BenQ EW2440 and Ubuntu 16.04, xrandr reports the resolution is set correctly to 1920x1080, but, the text in the applications (gnome-terminal, editors) are very big! How can this be fixed?
[07:56] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, yeah well hopefully it has something that stands out about the wifi issue I can compare against working output here and see if it gives us any more hints
[07:56] <mbuf> If I reduce the font size, it gets reduced, but, I have to do this for every application
[07:56] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, the rfkill showing it's disabled is almost definitely a problem but still trying to just get at the root cause
[07:57] <wafflejock> abhishek, what does, cat /proc/asound/cards, show
[07:58] <wafflejock> abhishek, also you try running through the troubleshooting I pasted earlier, basically reinstalls pulse and alsa parts and wipes out any config
[07:58] <abhishek> wafflejock, --- no soundcards ---
[07:59] <sruli> with "find" can i use name + type? i.e. "find -f -name /path/to/'*ext' -delete"
[07:59] <abhishek> wafflejock, I did reinstall alsa and pulse. Can you post the link again please.
[08:00] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: It shows up as a command line gui thing, how do I make so I can easily copy-paste it?
[08:00] <LiftLeft> *make it
[08:00] <wafflejock> abhishek, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[08:01] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, can run journalctl with --no-pager
[08:01] <LiftLeft> k
[08:02] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: https://hastebin.com/uwibadipof.sql
[08:03] <wafflejock> abhishek, from your lspci output earlier looks like a couple of modules loaded for the sound card typically I know that can be a problem for video cards
[08:04] <wafflejock> abhishekcs10, perhaps try disabling/blacklisting the soc one
[08:06] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23672122/ I ran  journalctl -b -u systemd-networkd | grep wlan0
[08:07] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, I don't see the adding address parts for yours but unfortunately nothing else really standing out there
[08:07] <LiftLeft> k
[08:09] <abhishek> wafflejock, any ideas?
[08:10] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: should I put it on the ubuntu forum?
[08:11] <wafflejock> abhishek, oh I pinged the wrong name but said maybe blacklist the extra module you see in lspci that isn't snd intel but not sure
[08:11] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, yeah I can't seem to find anything really recent about it
[08:12] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, https://www.google.com/search?q=rfkill+cannot+unblock+wifi
[08:14] <abhishek> wafflejock, blacklist what?
[08:15] <abhishek> wafflejock, https://dpaste.de/jPiV I am the guy with the sound issue ;)
[08:16] <wafflejock> abhishek, heh I know your output of lspci -k -v had two modules listed for the audio device
[08:17] <wafflejock> abhishek, snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl it says only snd_hda_intel is in use so should be okay but was thinking blacklist the other one just in case, I know people have had problems with gpu cards having multiple modules that get loaded
[08:19] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: Do I need to disable something?
[08:19] <wafflejock> abhishek, checking aplay or alsa in general is the right way to go but if it doesn't see the card at all in http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Alsa-sound-6.html
[08:19] <mrod> I'm using a GPG key as an SSH key with gpg-agent. I was hoping to be able to use gpg-agent on 16.04 as started by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent. ssh-add -l shows my gpg key, but when I try to use ssh, it fails with "agent refused operation". If i kill gpg agent and start it manually with "eval $(gpg-agent --daemon --enable-ssh-support)" it works. I can't tell what the difference is between the two methods of starting gpg-agent that w
[08:19] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, no think you just had the one module loaded for the wifi card and looks like the right one there's just something failing with it and without an error to go on it's really hard to say what the actual problem is
[08:20] <mrod> It appears to have to do with gpg-agent being unable to spawn pinenetry
[08:22] <Odd> I am told to go to /root with "cd /root", but both with "cd /root" and "sudo cd /root" I have issues: http://paste.md-5.net/banilonaje.sm Any other way to do it?
[08:22] <abhishek> wafflejock, output of lspci -k -v = https://dpaste.de/SX0f
[08:22] <abhishek> wafflejock, blacklist snd_soc_skl?
[08:22] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, would just post to the forums with all the details from sudo lspci -vv -nn and ifconfig and iwconfig and see what anyone suggests to debug further
[08:24] <LiftLeft> I'm going to reboot and see if that does anything
[08:24] <LiftLeft> probably not
[08:24] <LiftLeft> yolo
[08:24] <tomreyn> mrod: the first paragraph your wrote was cut off after "...two methods of starting gpg-agent that w".
[08:24] <wafflejock> abhishek, that's what I was thinking yes
[08:25] <mrod> @tomreyn, thanks, the only part missing was "would cause this"
[08:26] <tomreyn> mrod: according to the man page you may use the --pinentry-program option to gpg-agenbt to specify the command to use.
[08:26] <LiftLeft> nope
[08:26] <abhishek> wafflejock, can you please tell how?
[08:27] <wafflejock> abhishek, assuming it hasn't changed recently this is basically it http://askubuntu.com/questions/110341/how-to-blacklist-kernel-modules
[08:27] <mrod> tomreyn I have that specified in my gpg-agent.conf. My presumption is there is some environment difference between starting it via xsession startup scripts and manually via eval
[08:27] <tomreyn> mrod: yes, i would (only) guess so, too.
[08:28] <tomreyn> you could run "env | grep GPG" in both the script and your terminal
[08:28] <tomreyn> or without the grep, really, and better write it to a file
[08:30] <tomreyn>  /etc/X11/Xsession says that is should be run by /bin/sh (not bash or whatever your default shell is)
[08:36] <abhishek> wafflejock, Works!!! Thanks!!!!!!
[08:36] <abhishek> wafflejock, but why you did this? It worked before without blacklisting that module.
[08:39] <mrod> tomreyn, thanks for the info, no luck yet, but i've gtg
[08:44] <LiftLeft> wafflejock: do you think I should put the irc log link in the thread?
[08:51] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, yeah wouldn't hurt so people can read through what you tried if they want
[08:51] <LiftLeft> ok
[08:51] <wafflejock> LiftLeft, likely there is some command you can run to get more details about this particular problem I'm just not sure what it would be
[08:51] <LiftLeft> ok
[09:06] <adac> Is it possible to set up somehwere on the server, that an user that is logged in is already cd'ing into a certain directory? If yes, how?
[09:07] <Ben64> home directory?
[09:08] <adac> Ben64, actually a directory wihtin the home directory yes
[09:09] <ikevin> adac, use the .bashrc (or /etc/bashrc)
[09:09] <ikevin> just add a "cd your_path" in the script
[09:09] <adac> ikevin, ok, if this is the way to go I'll use that. thanks!
[09:12] <Elena93> Hello! I am from Moscow. Does anyone want to chat?
[09:13] <ledeni> Elena93, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:18] <MostIntZombie> Dang 35 yrs old as of the past hour...
[09:20] <madwizard> I wish I was that young, again
[09:22] <MostIntZombie> A few years shy of a midlife criss maybe ... not so bad
[09:22] <madwizard> :)
[09:22] <MostIntZombie> :)
[09:27] <SilalahiJr> hello
[09:34] <mukluks> 16.10, steam, rimworld - mouse cursor flashes and occasionally disappears when i'm  playing rimworld - any tips?
[09:38] <phablet> hhello
[09:45] <MostIntZombie> anyone around excited an exclusive martial artist opportunity from a techy?
[09:46] <cfhowlett> MostIntZombie, completely off-topic in this channel
[09:46] <cfhowlett> !ot | MostIntZombie
[09:46] <blackflow> I have an issue with gnome-software. Almost every time I resume the machine from suspend, I'm greted with crash icon and a report about it. I select to send it, click Continue, but nothing happnes. Does it send a report? I was expecting it to launch FF and have me log into Launchpad to file a bug report...
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> blackflow  probably apparmor, you can ignore it and disable the messages
[09:48] <blackflow> MonkeyDust: no audit trail about it, tho'
[09:49] <blackflow> MonkeyDust: the only error in the journal appearing after I resumed is this one:   systemd[1]: Failed to start Automatically refresh installed snaps.
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> blackflow  ok, 'snaps', i'm not familiar with those
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> !snap
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> !snaps
[09:50] <ducasse> that is 'snapd'.
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> !snappy
[09:51] <blackflow> and speking of snaps, I run VLC snap and Version says "daily" but "snap refresh" for weeks now responds with "All snaps up to date".
[09:51] <blackflow> I'm not running Ubuntu core, I'm running regular Ubuntu Unity 16.10
[09:51] <ducasse> blackflow: i believe there is a snapd.service that updates installed snaps etc, it happens automatically.
[09:52] <blackflow> ducasse: if that's true, I'm uninstalling it immediately.
[09:52] <ducasse> blackflow: aiui that is how it behaves.
[09:53] <ducasse> blackflow: i don't use snaps myself, so can't confirm.
[10:17] <xpert> hy
[10:19] <wligtenberg> I am upgrading a VPS from 14.04 to 16.04 (over ssh), but the installation process stopped with Command terminated with signal 2
[10:20] <wligtenberg> I can try to reconnect, but then it says: Unable to get exclusive lock. How to proceed?
[10:20] <ikonia> wligtenberg: lock on what
[10:20] <ikonia> and upgrading a VPS can be a problem depending on the provider and virtualization solution
[10:21] <wligtenberg> ikonia, lock on the package management stuff. Virtualization tech is fine to upgrade. It really is a VM, not some shared kernel thing.
[10:22] <ikonia> wligtenberg: remove the file
[10:22] <stevepython> what`s this
[10:22] <ikonia> and the package manager will re-create it
[10:22] <wligtenberg> ikonia, what file? it doesn't mention any specific file
[10:22] <ikonia> wligtenberg: it's not just about if it's a para virtualizaed box, providers often modify the OS
[10:22] <ikonia> wligtenberg: what is the EXACT error please
[10:23] <wligtenberg> ikonia, Reading cache
[10:23] <wligtenberg> Checking package manager
[10:23] <wligtenberg> Unable to get exclusive lock
[10:23] <wligtenberg> This usually means that another package management application (like
[10:23] <wligtenberg> apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application
[10:23] <wligtenberg> first.
[10:23] <stevepython> do you know more group
[10:23] <stevepython> what`s this
[10:23] <ikonia> wligtenberg: /var/lib/dpkg/lock most probably
[10:24] <ikonia> stevepython: you're in #ubuntu an IRC channel for ubuntu technical support
[10:24] <wligtenberg> whoops, that paste went wrong :S
[10:24] <stevepython> so you`re a people,and we are talking?
[10:25] <ikonia> stevepython: we are people yes
[10:25] <stevepython> o
[10:25] <stevepython> do you now more talking group?
[10:26] <stevepython> @ikonia
[10:26] <ikonia> stevepython: if you type /join #freenode you'll join the freenode network help channel, and you can ask questions about how to use IRC there
[10:26] <stevepython> thanks
[10:26] <stevepython> good luck
[10:27] <chaosfisch> Hi, I've finally managed to get my ubuntu to boot from USB. I've got plenty of RAM and wanted to use the "toram" option. I added it to my grub config. How can I verify that toram is active now? I don't see a difference in RAM usage.
[10:27] <wligtenberg> ikonia, thanks I just did an lsof and found the process, killed that and now running: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:28] <Ben64> wligtenberg: probably not best to kill apt/dpkg stuff
[10:28] <stevepython> what ane you doing?
[10:29] <wligtenberg> Ben64, I know... but it failed on me and it couldn't resume...
[10:29] <Ben64> wligtenberg: ok
[10:31] <wligtenberg> Ben64, do-release-upgrade failed in an ssh session, when I screened back in, it was complaining about another process having the lock... Then I accidentally quit that screen session, so now I have to fix it the old school way :)
[10:31] <Slown> Hello
[10:34] <Slown> Hello guys
[10:34] <Slown> I've some issues with apt-cacher
[10:34] <Slown> my laptopos always use the apt cacher server
[10:34] <Slown> even If I'm runing another system on it
[10:34] <Slown> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[10:34] <Slown> see option 2
[10:35] <Slown> the script used here, ping only the server
[10:35] <Slown> it didn't test if the server is runing Ubuntu or another system
[10:35] <Slown> do you have a solution for that ?
[10:37] <MostIntZombie> i guess my path is maybe to advacne in power alone
[10:38] <stevepython> who can tall me how to talk with somebody that i only know his username
[10:40] <blackflow> stevepython: /msg <username> blah blah blah
[10:40] <blackflow> if they're online.
[10:40] <stevepython> thanks
[10:47] <mikael> Hello! Is anyone awake to help?
[10:48] <Guest24658> anyone come accross , not being able to loginto Ubuntu after upgrading from 16.04 to 16.10 with kernels above 4.6 , if i revert back to kernel 4.6 I can login fine
[10:48] <mikael> I am trying to get this Ubuntu working for my son and I cannot install Geforce driver.
[10:49] <mikael> It says "you apper to be runnin an X server; please exit X before installing"
[10:49] <Guest24658> start up ubuntu in runlevel 1
[10:49] <ducasse> mikael: are you using the installer from the nvidia site?
[10:50] <Guest24658> then run ./nvidia installer
[10:50] <mikael> umm. I downloaded the driver from nvidia, yes
[10:50] <ducasse> mikael: bad idea, use the packaged driver.
[10:50] <Ben64> should not do that install
[10:51] <mikael> umm, where/how?
[10:51] <Ben64> depends on your video card(s)
[10:51] <Ben64> and ubuntu version
[10:52] <mikael> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS  /  Nvidia GeForce GT 630
[10:53] <Ben64> cool, then you should be able to install the proper driver from the software center
[10:54] <Ben64> one of the menus -> software sources -> additional drivers
[10:54] <Ben64> or something similar to that
[10:54] <Ben64> i don't have a 16.04 install here to check exactly
[10:56] <mikael> Oh, okay. This is prolly currently using x.org driver. And there are two additional NVIDIA drivers and one Legacy driver available.
[10:56] <mikael> Should I hold on to this X.org X Server or change?
[10:56] <Ben64> should pick the newest nvidia one
[10:57] <mikael> Ok. So it's 367.57 because 340.98 is propably older ;)
[10:57] <Ben64> yep
[10:58] <mikael> Thank you.
[10:58] <Morclye> I'm in process of moving my /home to another disk for more space. Following the guide on help.ubuntu.com. Currently creating a new partition of unallocated space with GParted. Do I need to specify Partition name or Label to anything specific for it to work as new /home ?
[10:59] <Ben64> no
[10:59] <Jnnx> Can someone help me with proftpd?
[10:59] <mikael> I ran hardtest benchmarks and am trying to find out why I had few test results worse in this computer than the weaker system
[10:59] <Morclye> So I can just leave them as blank during creation of the partition?
[10:59] <Ben64> sure
[11:00] <Morclye> Thank you, Ben64 !
[11:00] <Jnnx> Im trying to configure it that every user is directly connecting to its home dir, but every user lands in /opt/lampp/htdocs
[11:00] <Jnnx> I changed the DefaultRoot and restarted the service but nothing changed
[11:02] <Surfer2010> hello how can i check and maybe fix which php version is installed maybe remove it?
[11:02] <Ben64> dpkg -l | grep php
[11:04] <Jnnx> Does somebody know how to change the default ftp dir of proftpd?
[11:04] <Arkod> Hello, people. Does anyone know where one can find Mac OS old school themes, or Mac Milk and LCD Panel themes for Ubuntu & Linux?
[11:04] <Surfer2010> Ben64: it shows me php5 php5.6 and php7
[11:08] <LissajousPattern> so for some reason firefox is crashing after the latest update to 16.10
[11:08] <LissajousPattern> anyone else had this problem?
[11:08] <mikael> Allright. Now I am trying to install Minecraft for him and to show the power of IRC I am asking you for helo ;)
[11:08] <mikael> help
[11:08] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: back up your existing FF profile and try a new one?
[11:09] <LissajousPattern> blackflow, i dont know how
[11:09] <mikael> how jar files are installed?
[11:09] <Ben64> mikael: they aren't
[11:09] <LissajousPattern> i see profiles.ini
[11:10] <LissajousPattern> but how do i use a new one?
[11:10] <Ben64> LissajousPattern: try "firefox -P" and make a new one
[11:10] <mikael> okay, so javas are executable ?
[11:10] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: there's a directory in /home/youruser/.mozilla/firefox/  named <something>.default   where <something> is a random string. that's the profile dir. copy it or rename (but remember the original name), and start FF, a new profile will automatically be created.
[11:10] <Ben64> mikael: javas?
[11:10] <LissajousPattern> ok i will try
[11:10] <mikael> isn't jar a java-package?
[11:10] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: first shut down FF of course :)
[11:10] <Surfer2010> is there any way to change all dependencys from php5 to php7 in ubuntu
[11:11] <LissajousPattern> it wont even load at the moment
[11:11] <Ben64> mikael: it's basically a zip file with stuff in it
[11:11] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: you can start it from the terminal and see what kind of error it reports
[11:11] <mikael> aa, okay
[11:13] <LissajousPattern> yeah its giving me a theme parsing error
[11:13] <LissajousPattern> gtk-lubuntu.css
[11:13] <Ben64> pastebin the actual error
[11:13] <ducasse> mikael: try 'java -jar whatever.jar'
[11:15] <LissajousPattern> well i cant because i have no browser
[11:15] <Ben64> LissajousPattern: or just paste the actual error here if it's one or two lines
[11:15] <LissajousPattern> its on a different system
[11:16] <Ben64> then give up
[11:16] <LissajousPattern> hahaha
[11:16] <LissajousPattern> not an option
[11:16] <Ben64> then give the error
[11:17] <LissajousPattern> Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-lubuntu.css:309:15 The 'icon-shadow' property has been renamed to '-gtk-icon-shadow'
[11:18] <Ben64> cool, nothing to do with firefox
[11:18] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: warning, tho, that shouldn't prevent it from starting or functioning
[11:18] <LissajousPattern> there are a few other errors
[11:19] <LissajousPattern> insensitive pseudo class deprecated
[11:19] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: btw, when doing this for different machines, ie. those you can't copy-paste here in irc, you can cat or echo stuff  and pipe to    | nc termbin.com 9999       as a pastebin.
[11:20] <LissajousPattern> interesting i will have to try that later
[11:20] <LissajousPattern> i am by no means a linux pro
[11:21] <blackflow> that's alright, nobody was born with this knowledge :)
[11:21] <LissajousPattern> so any suggestions on how i fix this?
[11:21] <Ben64> same suggestion as before, try a new profile
[11:21] <blackflow> fix what? you need to pastebin the exact errors so we can see if it's something easy to fix or not. Also, does this happen with a fresh new profile?
[11:21] <LissajousPattern> i did
[11:21] <Ben64> and
[11:22] <LissajousPattern> it happens with a fresh new profile
[11:22] <blackflow> did you say this was an upgrade to 16.10? from what, 16.04?
[11:22] <Ben64> so it let you make a new profile, and start using that profile
[11:22] <LissajousPattern> i just did a fresh install of lubuntu and before the apt-get update ,upgrade, dist upgrade it worked
[11:23] <LissajousPattern> as soon as i did the update/upgrade process it broke
[11:23] <LissajousPattern> blackflow, this is a brand new install of 16.10
[11:24] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: please pastebin the exact errors it produces.
[11:24] <LissajousPattern> if I could i would
[11:24] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: you can also copy&paste that terminal output to  a new paste on  dpaste.de   and post here the resulting URL
[11:25] <LissajousPattern> i guess i will install chromium so i can get a browser
[11:25] <Koroccotta> Hello, Is this the site to place an LXD instalation issue?
[11:26] <blackflow> and eh, yeah, if you need FF for that, and FF doesn't start... try      firefox 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999       ASSUMING your FF will start and exit right away because of the error. don't want to use that if FF doesn't exist immediately.
[11:26] <blackflow> *exit
[11:27] <LissajousPattern> you know scratch that i am just going to install a distro that works properly
[11:27] <Ben64> lol
[11:27] <Ben64> good luck
[11:28] <LissajousPattern> it will take me less time to install a completely different distro than to sit here for hours troubleshooting this mess
[11:28] <LissajousPattern> Ben64, thanks
[11:28] <Ben64> i mean it wouldn't take hours if you'd actually paste the errors
[11:28] <Ben64> but whatever you want
[11:28] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: which distro if I may ask?
[11:29] <LissajousPattern> Arch
[11:29] <blackflow> you used it before?
[11:29] <LissajousPattern> yes
[11:29] <LissajousPattern> i am on it right now
[11:29] <LissajousPattern> with this laptop
[11:30] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: then you have first hand experience with it. Okay, good luck.
[11:31] <LissajousPattern> yeah but i do not have first hand experience with troubleshooting everything that breaks just because of an update to ubuntu
[11:31] <vrederv> Hey folks I am looking for a web API that can tell me the newest version of an Ubuntu package
[11:31] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: if you do that pastebin, maybe we can resolve the issue.
[11:32] <blackflow> stuff sometimes breaks. on Arch even more so as it's much more bleeding edge distro with far less pre-testing.
[11:32] <blackflow> which I'm sure you'll find out if you use it for some time. ;)
[11:32] <LissajousPattern> blackflow, i have had great luck with arch
[11:32] <LissajousPattern> and yes i know stuff breaks
[11:34] <LissajousPattern> but this is literally a fresh install of lubuntu i went through hours getting everything set up and customized only for a stupid update to break the browser
[11:34] <LissajousPattern> i am just sort of fed up with stuff like this
[11:34] <Ben64> LissajousPattern: if you're not interested in fixing it, then stop going on about it
[11:35] <ducasse> LissajousPattern: you're wasting a lot of time on all this when you could just copy/paste or grab a picture of the error.
[11:35] <Ben64> it's almost a guarantee that you did something to break it anyway
[11:35] <LissajousPattern> yeah sudo apt-get update/upgrade is what broke it
[11:35] <LissajousPattern> nothing more
[11:35] <Ben64> nah
[11:35] <LissajousPattern> yeah
[11:36] <LissajousPattern> like i said its a brand new install as of literally less than an hour ago
[11:36] <bazhang> she/he wont post the error, lets get back to ubuntu support please
[11:36] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: pastebin please, or you're just trolling with no desire to fix it.
[11:36] <LissajousPattern> with absolutely nothing more done to it
[11:36] <Ben64> "i went through hours getting everything set up and customized"
[11:36] <LissajousPattern> yeah that was the first til\me
[11:36] <LissajousPattern> time
[11:36] <LissajousPattern> like a week ago
[11:36] <bazhang> LissajousPattern, lets take tha chat elsewhere please
[11:37] <LissajousPattern> i thought it was some malware that got it so i did a fresh install today
[11:37] <LissajousPattern> dude i am just explaining myself
[11:37] <bazhang> LissajousPattern, this is strictly support only
[11:38] <LissajousPattern> yeah and i was asking for some support
[11:38] <LissajousPattern> and just because my browser is broken and i cant pastebi i am being accused of trolling
[11:38] <bazhang> LissajousPattern, absent any errors that we have asked for repeatedly, there's not much support to be done
[11:38] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: yes you can pastebin, I showed you how.
[11:38] <Ben64> all the typing you've done here whining you could have typed all the errors by now
[11:38] <blackflow> that too :
[11:38] <LissajousPattern> i am not familiar with the other suggested methods of paste binning things
[11:39] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: I gave you exact command.
[11:39] <LissajousPattern> Ben64, i did type the error
[11:39] <LinuxNovice> hello, I am a Linux newbie. Wanted to know which one among Mate and Xfce is actually more lightweight and more suitable for old laptops.
[11:39] <Ben64> you typed one error, and it's not even a firefox error
[11:39] <LissajousPattern> it was the error i got when trying to run it from the terminal
[11:40] <LinuxNovice> I have a laptop which was bought about 11 years back
[11:40] <blackflow> LinuxNovice: ouch, which cpu is that?
[11:41] <LinuxNovice> Intel Celeron M Single core processor with 1.5 Ghz, 2 gb ram.
[11:41]  * brunch875 is currently on a rpi with 700MHz cpu + 400MB RAM
[11:41] <codezera>  I miss the old systray
[11:42] <codezera> i can't see my xchat tray icon
[11:42] <codezera> so i have to keep xchat in launcher
[11:42] <codezera> which sucks
[11:42] <blackflow> LinuxNovice: browsing the internet is going to be a huge pain on that.
[11:42] <bazhang> codezera, did you mean hexchat
[11:43] <codezera> I like xchat.
[11:43] <codezera> no hexchat.
[11:43] <LinuxNovice> I don't have much problem in browsing the internet even with a 3 or 4 tabs on. But, videos on youtube really slows down the laptop.
[11:43] <bazhang> one is no longer maintained codezera
[11:43] <brunch875> blackflow: there's always text-based browsers
[11:43] <blackflow> LinuxNovice: I recently tried to use a MODERN celeron that has 3x cpu passmark points than your cpu, even with 4GB of RAM and it was unbearable.
[11:43] <codezera> yeah but it's working anyway :D
[11:44] <bazhang> hexchat is codezera
[11:44] <LinuxNovice> yes. I too am facing the same problem.
[11:44] <blackflow> brunch875: there is, but how well do those work in modern javascript/graphics based interactive web environments?
[11:44] <codezera> @baz im going give hexchat a try, I'd keep it if I liked it.
[11:44] <LinuxNovice> sometimes the laptop starts making some kind of grinding sound.
[11:45] <blackflow> LinuxNovice: anyway, beetween mate and xfce, I think they're more or less at the same level, among which I'd recommend Mate only because I _hear_ it's superbly done.
[11:46] <LinuxNovice> blackflow, you mean it is better than Xfce for me?
[11:46] <blackflow> LinuxNovice: between Mate and XFCE that I tried on other distros, Mate was better for me. more.... "robust" and better looking. on Ubuntu, I never tried those (Ubuntu Mate, or Xubuntu), but I hear from people that did, that Mate is superb.
[11:47] <LinuxNovice> ok. I'll go for Ubuntu Mate, then.
[11:48] <jebspocketturtle> anyone wanna help out a noobie on getting my gtx 960m installed on mint 18.1
[11:48] <blackflow> jebspocketturtle: yea, probably people in #mint :)
[11:48] <Ben64> jebspocketturtle: mint isn't supported here, head to #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[11:48] <jebspocketturtle> i know ive been tryin
[11:48] <jebspocketturtle> :(
[11:48] <nkr_> Did you try to navigate to additional drivers?
[11:49] <brunch875> My laptop has a 960m. It should be fine to just install the drivers
[11:49] <nkr_> I don't recommend installing from terminal, i've bricked my system a few times via terminal gfx install.
[11:49] <blackflow> "bricked"? or just broken?
[11:50] <nkr_> like need format bricked
[11:50] <LinuxNovice> blackflow, thanks a lot.
[11:50] <blackflow> bricked = can throw in garbage, will never run again
[11:50] <brunch875> nkr_: how? I alwas install from terminal and see no difference
[11:50] <nkr_> Using the additional driver auto installer is safer imo. Especially since a nooby is asking.
[11:50] <Koroccotta> I have some problems with a dependency: libgolang-gopkg-lxc-go-lxc.v2-1-a3c26daa6cca00f2c837bfab1c491e3eb2419feb library is installed, but every time i try to install LXD no way. An unmet dependency error is shown. Any idea?
[11:50] <brunch875> actually, with the 960m I was forced to install from terminal because gui used to freeze
[11:51] <blackflow> Koroccotta: which ubuntu?
[11:51] <Koroccotta> Server 16.10.1
[11:51] <Koroccotta> x64
[11:51] <blackflow> brunch875: I have 960 but not m. the additional software installer was clicky, reboot, all good :)
[11:52] <blackflow> though heads up, if you use nvidia driver and have root encrypted , you need to disable plymouth splash thing on boot, it's broken
[11:52] <blackflow> Koroccotta: apt-get install lxd worked just fine here.
[11:52] <ducasse> Koroccotta: i have the same thing, i'm guessing they've missed updateing the dependencies correctly
[11:52] <blackflow> Koroccotta: wait, did you mean 16.04.1 ?
[11:53] <ducasse> Koroccotta: or the mirror is missing some updated package
[11:55] <Koroccotta> blackflow tried several times and no way
[11:56] <blackflow> Koroccotta: 16.10 or 16.04.1?
[11:56] <Koroccotta> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[11:56] <Koroccotta> Description:	Ubuntu 16.10
[11:56] <Koroccotta> Release:	16.10
[11:56] <Koroccotta> Codename:	yakkety
[11:56] <Koroccotta> Sure
[11:57] <Koroccotta> It was an upgrade from 16.04.1
[11:58] <blackflow> Koroccotta: correct, I purged and tried to reinstall LXD, same thing. like ducasse said most likely
[11:58] <z2> Hi. Do you know if I can download anywhere an already installed ubuntu image that is suitable for chrooting into it?
[11:58] <z2> Something like tar.gz or cpio archive perhaps
[12:00] <blackflow> z2: use debootstrap for that
[12:00] <blackflow> program/package which pretty much any distro has, that does exactly that, installs a base debian-based-system into a (chroot) directory
[12:03] <blackflow> Koroccotta: ok, filing a bug report, doesn't look like anyone report it already
[12:04] <ducasse> blackflow: no, i didn't have time for it, nice if you can do it.
[12:04] <z2> blackflow: no, I don't want to install debootstrap. The thing I waslooking for is called "cloud image"
[12:04] <Koroccotta> Never done, before. I am some Novice.  I will take a look :-) thanks for helping me
[12:04] <ducasse> Koroccotta: this will probably get fixed pretty quick
[12:05] <blackflow> Koroccotta: ducasse: please mark this as affecting you too:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxd/+bug/1652291
[12:05] <blackflow> z2: maybe this:  https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/
[12:06] <ducasse> blackflow: done.
[12:06] <blackflow> z2: probably the -root.tar.gz packages. Never tried to install one, but it seems like those are what you want.
[12:06] <z2> blackflow: yeah, I just meant that I've found the correct search keyword and resolved the question. That's pretty cool that anyone can download an archive, chroot into it and get a working distro. Thanks
[12:09] <Koroccotta> Just marked. Thanks.
[12:09] <Genna> hi
[12:11] <Genna> ciao negro
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:18] <Mibka> I'm trying to install ubuntu-16.04.1-server.amd64.iso  in a virtual machine (proxmox 4.4 , KVM based) but the installed always bails out with the error "Unable to install the selected kernel - An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system. Kernel package: 'linux-generic'. Check /ver/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for details". In the syslog it only shows "base-installed: error: exiting on error base-installer/kernel/failed
[12:18] <Mibka> Any idea?
[12:20] <ducasse> Mibka: any errors on vc4?
[12:20] <Mibka> ducasse: the same as in /var/log/syslog.. only that line starting with 'base-installer: error: exiting...'
[12:22] <ducasse> Mibka: seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/336294/installing-ubuntu-server-12-04-on-vmware-workstation-8-in-an-ubuntu-12-04-deskto
[12:24] <rego_> buenos   dias
[12:24] <flux242> hi how do I find package version in ubuntu 15.10? ubu package search site doesn't list this release
[12:24] <ducasse> flux242: 15.10 is eol
[12:25] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | flux242
[12:25] <rego_> hay alguien me  puede  ayudar  con  un  problema  en  mac g5 y ubunto 16
[12:26] <flux242> i don't care if its eol or not, i need to know which package version did it have
[12:26] <bazhang> flux242, which package
[12:26] <Mibka> ducasse: it looks like the md5 doesn't match oof my iso, compared with MD5SUM I find on releases.ubuntu.com. I'll redownload ;) Sorry for the troubles
[12:26] <flux242> any package
[12:27] <bazhang> packages.ubuntu.com to check then flux242
[12:28] <flux242> as i said - this site doesn't list 15.10
[12:28] <bazhang> why the need for that info, on an eol release
[12:29] <ducasse> flux242: you can dig through old-releases.ubuntu.com
[12:31] <rommel> flux242, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/15.10/
[12:32] <flux242> and?
[12:32] <rego_> problemas en  salida  video  2dvi en tele  con  mac g5 ppc  tengo ubuntu 16.10 mate  ayuda por favor
[12:32] <ducasse> flux242: find the package in question there
[12:33] <flux242> where?
[12:33] <rommel> rego_, solo ingles
[12:34] <rommel> the iso will have pkg info on it flux242
[12:34] <rommel> can you download and mount it for what you are trying to do
[12:34] <flux242> no way i'm going to dl the image and install it just to check specific package version
[12:34] <Ben64> flux242: or just explain what you're trying to accomplish, because it seems certain you're doing something weird
[12:36] <hateball> flux242: could just do !info <package> wily
[12:36] <hateball> !info firefox wily
[12:36] <jmackey> hool49
[12:37] <Wulf> jmackey: isn't here
[12:38] <flux242> !info gnuradio wily
[12:38] <rego_> Good morning I have a mac g5 ppc and I install ubuntu 16 mate but I have video output problem connected to tv. Need help thanks
[12:40] <rego_> Does not recognize graphics card is nvidia 6600
[12:40] <rommel> nice hateball, flux242 would have thanked you had he had a set
[12:41] <ducasse> rego_: try #ubuntu-powerpc
[12:43] <rego_> thanks
[12:43] <hateball> rommel: heh
[12:57] <tsglove> Is there a "self-hosted" Canonical Landscape version?  https://landscape.canonical.com/
[13:07] <madwizard> tsglove: You mean, you would want to host it yourself? It's called Landscape On Premises
[13:07] <madwizard> https://help.landscape.canonical.com/
[13:07] <madwizard> https://help.landscape.canonical.com/
[13:07] <madwizard> Sorry
[13:07] <madwizard> http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use
[13:07] <madwizard> Here
[13:09] <tsglove> madwizard, oh... wow. hmm
[13:17] <Kartagis> how to change one specifc environment variable?
[13:20] <tomreyn> $ export MYENVIRONMENTVARIABLE="MYVALUE"
[13:20] <tomreyn> $ echo $MYENVIRONMENTVARIABLE
[13:20] <tomreyn> MYVALUE
[13:20] <tomreyn> Kartagis: ^
[13:21] <tomreyn> this works for the current user until logout / reboot (or until the variable is modified / deleted by another process)
[13:22] <Kartagis> cheers, but how to make it perm?
[13:23] <tomreyn> add the above line to ~/.profile (for a single user) or to /etc/environment (for all users)
[13:23] <tomreyn> actually in /etc/environement remove "export" - it's a configuration file, not a script
[13:26] <flux242> !info gr_osmosdr wily
[13:26] <flux242> !info gr-osmosdr wily
[13:27] <flux242> !info gr-osmosdr yakkety
[13:30] <RhackeR> how to i joined in this chennal
[13:31] <kittykitty_> I've just updated to 16.04 from 14.04 but unity doesnt load, just a background and my desktop icons. I'm using the intel xorg driver. Gnome panel works fine though
[13:32] <kittykitty_> tried reinstalling unity, ubuntu desktop, xorg, dbus. Used setsid. The compiz plugin for unity is enabled too...
[13:34] <RhackeR> 16.04 is not properly installed plz try 15
[13:43] <bonerod> 2804
[13:50] <welshladuk> has anyone upgraded ubuntu to 16.10 with kernel 4.8 or 4.9
[13:50] <welshladuk> im getting logon issues from the desktop launcher
[13:55] <joci> hello!!
[13:56] <abijma> i have 2 questions about ubuntu 12.04. i have apache 2.2.22 on ubuntu. i was using php 5.4.45 and now installed 5.6. Ubuntu console gives for command php -ver version 5.6 but phpinfo in webbrowser gives 5.4.45 so apache is still using the old version. how can i change that?
[13:57] <abijma> likely same problem i have with openssl. console gives that i'm using open ssl 1.0.2j but apache(curl) is still using 1.0.1
[13:57] <welshladuk> abijma - what dose /usr/share/ show you
[13:58] <welshladuk> your php install should be in here
[13:58] <SummerRain> how do i use rsync to delete a folder and all its files ?
[13:59] <abijma> @wedshladuk i see in usr/share aswell dirs of old and new php version
[14:00] <abijma> i thought i had to replace the so file where apache mods is pointing to but i cannot find an .so file for php 5.6
[14:03] <vfw> abijma: abijma Have you tried restarting apache?
[14:03] <abijma> yup
[14:03] <vfw> abijma: sudo find / "libphp*so" -type f
[14:04] <abijma> but like i said apache2/mods-available/php.load still points to LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so i assume that should be changed?!
[14:04] <welshladuk> @abijma , change tyour enviroment $PATH to point to the php version you want to use
[14:04] <vfw> abijma: Are you looking at localhost/test.php for version number?
[14:05] <ikonia> abijma: how did you install php 5.6
[14:05] <Dirkos> I want to run MSBUILD on my ubuntu machine but what is the right way to install it? This due the fact that .NETCore now runs on linux as well
[14:05] <ikonia> could you clarify that please
[14:05] <welshladuk> @abijma echo $PATH will show your current php path that is being used as default
[14:06] <abijma> i installed it through adding ppa:ondrej/php5-5.6 to repositories
[14:06] <ikonia> welshladuk: no it will not
[14:06] <vfw> abijma: ls -l /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so  #What is the date?
[14:06] <ikonia> abijma: right - so thats the problem
[14:06] <ikonia> abijma: you've added a PPA
[14:06] <abijma> echo $PATH gives /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[14:06] <ikonia> abijma: does the PPA update the libraries the default ubuntu apache install points at
[14:06] <ikonia> abijma: or does it just drop a binary on there
[14:07] <welshladuk> so - whereis php shows what path
[14:07] <ikonia> welshladuk: what are you even talking about
[14:08] <abijma> sorry i will come back later... don't have time anymore right now.
[14:08] <welshladuk> sorry , the original Q was why php is different to that what was installed
[14:08] <abijma> thanks for advice already
[14:08] <bekks> welshladuk: Only after a few requirements are met. whereis isnt reliable without checking the configuration before.
[14:08] <ikonia> welshladuk: $PATH has no facter in the webserver
[14:08] <ikonia> bottom line is he's used a PPA
[14:09] <vfw> welshladuk just has a couple of wrinkles to iron out, he probably has the info he needs to find them.
[14:10] <OerHeks> a server with 4 months support left ..
[14:10] <vfw> OerHeks: Good point.  Probably his easiest fix it version upgrade
[14:11] <vfw> ... maybe not easiest but best ...
[14:11] <ded_sec> hello everyone!
[14:12] <joci> hi ded_sec
[14:12] <joci> whats up?
[14:13] <Wouter__> Hi guys i have a small problem: i've compiled an executable using CMake and c++, but when it's compiled ubuntu identifies it as a Shared Object file... So i can't execute it by double-clicking. It does work through the terminal tho
[14:13] <mukluks> hi ded_sec how is san francisco
[14:13] <ikonia> Wouter__: what is the application ?
[14:14] <Wouter__> It's a rendering engine written in C++ using opengl
[14:14] <Wouter__> very early stage
[14:14] <ikonia> Wouter__: ahh, so you've written it ?
[14:14] <Wouter__> yes
[14:14] <wiggmpk> Ubuntu 16.04, every time I boot up and log in, I am greeted with Remote Desktop Viewer opened. Why is this happening? I have literally never opened RDV myself
[14:14] <ra21vi> what to do when 4G USB modem (dongle, mobile broadband) is detected as cdrom?
[14:14] <ikonia> Wouter__: if you run "file" against it, what do you get back
[14:14] <mukluks> wiggmpk: got a screenshot?
[14:14] <Wouter__> what do you mean exactly?
[14:14] <Wouter__> "run a file against it" ?
[14:15] <ikonia> Wouter__: run "file" against the executable
[14:15] <ra21vi> wiggmpk, that may be in startup
[14:15] <Wouter__> well i don't know what that means :p
[14:15] <OerHeks> file /path/to/executable
[14:15] <ikonia> you run the file command, against the binary you've made
[14:15] <alkisg> Wouter__: it's a command: file /path/to/your/executable
[14:15] <wiggmpk> mukluks: no, I didnt think to take a screenshot... ra21vi: I have checked startup applications, it is not (vino-server is running in system monitor)
[14:16] <Wouter__> o i will right now
[14:16] <mukluks> ra21vi: your 4g dongle probably has storage built in - your pc is correctly identifying and mounting that storage via usb
[14:16] <Wouter__> This is what "file" returns: "solight: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=ee6a7d4c922238be8ec8769f47a0f92c86f6c39f, not stripped"
[14:16] <mukluks> ra21vi: this is probably independent of the 4g functionality of the dongle
[14:17] <Wouter__> pretty weird since it's executable and work
[14:17] <ikonia> Wouter__: so that is a shared library then
[14:17] <Wouter__> well, in cmake i typed "add_executable"
[14:17] <Wouter__> and it executes :p
[14:17] <ikonia> Wouter__: that doesn't make it an executable
[14:17] <mukluks> so weird
[14:17] <ikonia> Wouter__: did you honeslty write this ?
[14:17] <ikonia> or is it someone elses work
[14:17] <ra21vi> wiggmpk, do you have auto-save-session enabled.. if you have dconf-editor, you can search it if its enabled..
[14:18] <Wouter__> yes, but right now it only loads an fbx and renders it in wireframe
[14:18] <Wouter__> but the thing is, i've had this aswel with executables i dind't write
[14:18] <wiggmpk> ra21vi: correct me if I am wrong, but that would imply that I have used RDV for something right? I literally have never opened that app for any reason
[14:18] <ra21vi> mukluks, yes, thats exactly whats happening... how can I fix it
[14:18] <Wouter__> I really don't understand...
[14:19] <ikonia> Wouter__: did you honestly write this ?
[14:19] <Wouter__> yes, for the third time hahah :) You want to see the cmakelists in a pastebin ?
[14:19] <Wouter__> would that help?
[14:19] <ra21vi> wiggmpk, yes, that shoould ideally happen once you have opened.. but sometimes world is not ideal :) LOL
[14:19] <ikonia> Wouter__: no, because I'm curious to why you're not clear about what you've made
[14:20] <vfw> Please do not bring honesty into this channel, it is boring enough already ;)
[14:20] <ikonia> Wouter__: have you actually made a shared library to be consumed or a self contained static executable
[14:20] <Wouter__> I did tell you?
[14:20] <jcadduono> do you guys know of an *alright* text editor similar to gedit that's just really basic line numbers and C syntax highlighting, i really like gedit but gedit gets destroyed by sshfs ddos
[14:20] <Wouter__> no i *want* to make an executable
[14:20] <Wouter__> using CMake
[14:20] <ikonia> Wouter__: right, but your code has to be exeuctable or a libray
[14:20] <wiggmpk> ra21vi: I think I found the issue, I was unaware that since Ubuntu 12.04 they have "Hidden" startup applications
[14:20] <ikonia> the "make" doesn't make it one or the other
[14:20] <Wouter__> yes, but i'm using the correct cmake syntax
[14:20] <ikonia> Wouter__: again - no
[14:20] <Wouter__> and the thing is it does EXECUTE
[14:21] <ikonia> Wouter__: step back from make for a moment
[14:21] <Wouter__> alright
[14:21] <wiggmpk> ra21vi: why, anyone would not want to see them is beyond me, but I found vino-server.desktop with NoDisplay=true in /etc/xda/autostart. My fault for using the Startup App gui
[14:21] <ikonia> Wouter__: the code you have written, is that designed to be a shared library to be consumed/loaded or a self contained executable
[14:22] <Wouter__> it has a main entry function, it creates a window, so i would say it's meant to be an application... I'm an experienced programmer mate, i've never had this before
[14:22] <ikonia> Wouter__: I'm asking to understand what's happening here
[14:22] <Wouter__> it's not like i'm a noob not knowing what to do
[14:22] <ikonia> Wouter__: then you should be able to fix it
[14:22] <ikonia> I'll leave you to it
[14:22] <ra21vi> wiggmpk, /etc/xda or xdg ?
[14:22] <Wouter__> yea i'd love to, but it seems like an ubuntu error
[14:23] <wiggmpk> ra21vi: xdg sorry
[14:23] <ra21vi> :)
[14:23] <Wouter__> as it says it's a shared object, but it actually does execute on it's own
[14:23] <wiggmpk> ra21vi: furious fat finger
[14:23] <j4f-shredder> hey, how do I add a disk label in fstub if it has spaces in it?
[14:24] <j4f-shredder> UUID=5ED2B771D2B74C51   /media/ubuntu/Disco HDD
[14:24] <j4f-shredder> I need to set that mounpoint with that
[14:24] <alkisg> j4f-shredder: try "\ " without the quotes
[14:24] <j4f-shredder> how do you escape white spaces on linux files?
[14:24] <ikonia> j4f-shredder: \
[14:24] <j4f-shredder> like that?
[14:25] <vfw> j4f-shredder: Yea, just like that
[14:25] <j4f-shredder> likethis  /media/ubuntu/Disco\HDD
[14:25] <LordNelthon> which are the parameters of cryptstetup Ubiquity uses when full disk encryption is chosen?
[14:25] <alkisg>  /media/ubuntu/Disco\ HDD
[14:25] <alkisg> With a space there
[14:26] <vfw> j4f-shredder: The tab key is your friend.
[14:26] <j4f-shredder> what I don't know is why the UUID is different from the other disk
[14:26] <j4f-shredder> that format is different
[14:26] <alkisg> It's because it's ntfs
[14:26] <j4f-shredder> oohhh
[14:26] <j4f-shredder> yes
[14:26] <j4f-shredder> thank you very much
[14:26] <j4f-shredder> I found a line
[14:26] <j4f-shredder> on the fstub file
[14:26] <j4f-shredder> # / was on /dev/sdb4 during installation UUID=d5d25cbb-a5ab-4c28-92cd-3d1037563ec3 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:27] <j4f-shredder> I don't know if I should delete that
[14:27] <j4f-shredder> I have my main ssd disk set up correctly, but I don't recognize that ext4
[14:28] <j4f-shredder> I have 2 ext4
[14:28] <j4f-shredder> ├─sdb4 ext4   205.8G /                        ├─sdb2 ext4     2.7G
[14:28] <Joejoepie> Is there anyone that can help me? I've written a C++ executable, and it executes in the terminal, but ubuntu recognizes it as a shared libary?
[14:28] <j4f-shredder> and I don't know why, I thought you couldn't repeat numbers in ext...I mean, I thought you could only have 1 ext4
[14:28] <bekks> Joejoepie: Whats its name?
[14:28] <Joejoepie> of the executable? solight
[14:29] <Arab_Aspie> Yay
[14:29] <Arab_Aspie> I'm back
[14:29] <BluesKaj> j4f-shredder, depending on your partitioin table you can have numerous ext4 partititons
[14:30] <Joejoepie> bekks?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> j4f-shredder, if it's a GPT
[14:31] <vfw> j4f-shredder: Look at the list: sudo blkid
[14:31] <bekks> Joejoepie: Could you please pastebin the output of "file solight" and provide the URL to us?
[14:32] <Joejoepie> well, the file command says it's a shared object, but the weird thing is, is that it DOES execute in the terminal the way i want it, here it is: http://pastebin.com/RLg8ycHK
[14:32] <alkisg> Joejoepie: it's normal for shared libraries to be able to get executed, e.g. try running /lib/ld-linux.so.2 and see that it produces a help output
[14:33] <bekks> Joejoepie: So actually, it isnt an executable but a shared object :)
[14:33] <Joejoepie> yes it does. But it's meant to be an executable! I'm using cmake, and i'm telling it to make an executable?
[14:33] <Joejoepie> or is it because i link my executable to static libraries?
[14:34] <alkisg> I don't think it's an ubuntu issue, maybe you should be asking in #cmake etc?
[14:34] <Joejoepie> http://pastebin.com/rZBiTK8B this is the cmake file
[14:34] <Joejoepie> oh alright
[14:34] <Joejoepie> i'll try there then :)
[14:37] <SomeDudeSufferin> hey dudes and dudettes, anyone knows if there's a way to get in the ctrl+alt+F1 thing? Mi left alt key is broken
[14:38] <deepcell> try fn + f1
[14:45] <fahad> anyone here using Ansible or Puppet
[14:47] <ikonia> fahad: yes
[14:48] <dario_> ciao
[14:48] <fahad> have you been able to find anything similar to a client server equivalent in puppet
[14:49] <dario_> list
[14:49] <dario_> #list
[14:49] <ikonia> fahad: puppet is a client server model what ar eyou talking about ?
[14:49] <ikonia> fahad: and puppet isn't really anything to do with ubuntu, it's its own technology
[14:50] <fahad> yes i see
[14:51] <fahad> however i was wondering if anyone in the ubuntu community has any luck with going from puppet to ansible where the clients have a changing public ip
[14:51] <ikonia> fahad: yes, I've done that
[14:52] <rabah> a
[14:52] <fahad> could you please give me an overview of this
[14:53] <ikonia> fahad: I'm not sure what you're actual problem is ? you're swapping out cfgmgt tool for another, you just have to swap puppet class functionality to playbooks
[14:54] <joci> hi guys! i am a super newbie ! i have just started to learn programing with Java, at the same time switched to use Ubuntu. Therfore im gonna bomb you with super smart questions regrding Ubuntu in the near future. BTW I am joci Im from Hungary!
[14:56] <roger2750> السلام عليكم لماذا أوبنتو على النظام الوهمي يكون بطيئا جدا؟؟؟
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> !arabic
[14:56] <fahad> Ikonia: yes, but what I'm trying say is puppet has an agent but ansible does not. It is talking over ssh. If the ip of the client is changing how do you locate this client.
[14:56] <ikonia> fahad: it uses dns
[14:57] <fahad> Ikonia: I have no way of mapping this device's ip to a domain name
[14:57] <ikonia> fahad: then you need to do that
[14:57] <fahad> unless i send over vpn
[14:58] <atul> hi
[14:58] <fahad> is it possible in ansible for the client to reach out to the sever's domain name or ip and ask for a playbook update
[14:59] <ikonia> fahad: you don't put ip's in the playbook
[14:59] <atul> cannot configure pidgin for gtalk or fb chat
[14:59] <atul> help needed
[14:59] <kittykitty_> every time i enable the unity plugin in ccsm it doesnt stay checked and then obviously unity doesnt get drawn, any ideas? Just updated to 16.04 and it broke everything
[14:59] <ikonia> fahad: I think you need to talk to the ansible community to understand how to use it
[14:59] <fahad> okay thanks ikonia
[15:00] <kittykitty_> none of the icons get drawn for programs either. Have to do LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6 before ccsm will load too
[15:02] <wiggmpk> Is there any way to suppress the "has joined the room" or "has disconnected" in Empathy?
[15:04] <teslo> algum brasileiro?
[15:06] <OerHeks> wiggmpk, for empathy there is no solution AFAIK, other clients http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[15:07] <wiggmpk> OerHeks: was afraid of that.. Pidgin is my alternative but I really like Empathy. Wish they had more features
[15:07] <wiggmpk> OerHeks: mainly because of the integration into Gnome
[15:10] <ra21vi> i did whatever i found on askubuntu, for fixing 4g USB modem.. it doesnt work
[15:12] <ra21vi> anyone else here in room has experience with modeswitch and fixing usb modem which is detected as cdrom?
[15:14] <akis> hi all. any idea on how can i slim down 16.04 xubuntu? i am running it on an atom intel with only 1gb ram and i would like to start with less of 220 mb ram and i dont want to switch to lubuntu. any idea what apps or procedures can i stop be loading when system boots?
[15:14] <SaberArthur> try ubuntu mini?
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> akis  media players you ever use
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> never*
[15:18] <akis> MonkeyDust: if i paste what task manager shows that is enabled when system starts will help you on what can i make it not to be loaded?
[15:18] <joci> i would like to ask that what is the best way to check your Ubuntu that there is no unwanted files in the system ?
[15:18] <kbob> ra21vi: which modem is that?
[15:18] <bekks> joci: Dont copy them to your system :)
[15:19] <ra21vi> akis, just tell what type software you use, will give the idea
[15:19] <joci> :)
[15:19] <ra21vi> kbob, its by Micromax.. but i think they have rebranded Huwai .. its USB 4g LTE by Airtel in India (manufacturer - Micromax)
[15:20] <akis> ra21vi: i just want to slim down xubuntu system to use the minimum ram when it starts
[15:20] <bekks> akis: Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[15:20] <bekks> akis: How much RAM do you have?
[15:21] <noimnotninevolt> let's not assume that it's unused just because xubuntu isn't using it :P
[15:21] <kbob> ra21vi: Huawei do not need modemswich
[15:21] <noimnotninevolt> perhaps he wants static hugepages.
[15:21] <ra21vi> kbob, this has vendor id : 1c9e:9bfe
[15:21] <meta-coder> akis: Yes, tell us what things are running
[15:21] <akis> bekks: total ram 1 gb. I am running thunar and browsing with opera 42 and the system is @460 mb ram.
[15:22] <ra21vi> kbob, i cann't confirm if its huwwai or not, the manufacturer/distributor is Micromax
[15:22] <kbob> ra21vi: have you tried sakis3g ?
[15:22] <bekks> akis: thats quite fine then. I bet its firefox which is hogging RAM, not other parts of your system.
[15:23] <meta-coder> akis: Look at the services that are running, and disable those that you don''t need.
[15:23] <ra21vi> kbob, no.. let me check
[15:23] <vfw> ff takes a *lot*
[15:25] <meta-coder> akis: Services like avahi-daemon, bluetooth, cups, tumblerd, can be disabled if you don't need them.
[15:26] <kbob> ra21vi: get sakis3g, the one with modemswitch embedded, its a sh script, chmod +x, that start it with sakis3g -s --interactive --googledns APN=whatever.com APN_USER=yourusername APN_PASS=yourpassword
[15:27] <kbob> ra21vi: -s mean sudo
[15:27] <akis> bekks: i stopped use firefox because was too slow on my old netbook and i started to use opera which is running smoothly. i am uploading screenshots of what is running when i log in.
[15:28] <bekks> akis: firefoy, chrome, whatever. Browsers arent lightweight stuff in terms of their RAM usage.
[15:28] <meta-coder> akis: Also see Settings → Session & Startup → Autostart
[15:29] <joci> akis:firefox so slow for me as well i started to use
[15:29] <ra21vi> kbob, ok.. right now compiling it from git clone...
[15:29] <joci> i reckon crhome is better as well
[15:29] <ra21vi> kbob, do i have to compile embedded mode or normal
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> akis FYI: there's this    http://paste.ubuntu.com/23673620/
[15:29] <kbob> ra21vi: embedded, maybe you need to disable modem manager: #systemctl stop ModemManager.service than #systemctl disable ModemManager.service
[15:30] <ra21vi> kbob, ok
[15:31] <akis> http://pasteboard.co/djc3hI7Gt.png, http://pasteboard.co/djcN4pd95.png, http://pasteboard.co/djdggMGMC.png
[15:32] <kbob> ra21vi: those modems do not like some usb ports so if it fail try another port
[15:38] <akis> sorry...i am uploading again the screenshots to give me an idea on what can i disable to be loaded: http://pasteboard.co/djjBTErVz.png  http://pasteboard.co/djk2UfgYj.png  http://pasteboard.co/1kx4meEbN.png  http://pasteboard.co/djl3A4iNl.png
[15:42] <bekks> akis: Which services are started?
[15:42] <akis> bekks: see my screenshots
[15:44] <bekks> akis: your screen list all tasks running, not all services configured to run.
[15:46] <akis> bekks: sorry i cannot understand the difference. this is what is running when the system starts. and consumes almost 25% of my ram (250mb of 1gb total). i am wondering if there is a way to slim down any procedure to reduce the ram that the system needs to start
[15:46] <bekks> akis: your screenshots show a list of process running. They do not show a list of services configured to run upon boot.
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> akis  you should show the list with all the services that can be enabled or disabled
[15:48] <akis> does the 4rth list shows the services which are running and autostarted
[15:48] <bekks> akis: Yes, but that list is incomplete.
[15:48] <dhollinger> Anyone have any updates/suggestions to Unity stealing the Alt and Win/Super keys from Full Screen/Grabbed apps?
[15:49] <dhollinger> Causes me an unending amount of grief and changing the hotkey in Unity doesn't work
[15:49] <dhollinger> Ubuntu 16.10
[15:50] <akis> nothing else is autostarted that's why i didnt upload a screenshot of the rest. everything else is unticked.
[15:50] <joelengt_> ds
[15:51] <joelengt_> hola
[15:51] <joelengt_> hello ?
[15:51] <nicomachus> joelengt_: hi
[15:51] <nicomachus> joelengt_: habla ingles?
[15:51] <akis> bekks: and the only service i think i can disable is pwer manager because my battery is dead and the netbook is always plugged on curruncy.
[15:51] <joelengt_> someone like wactch anime here ?
[15:51] <nicomachus> !ot | joelengt_
[15:52] <bekks> akis: Yeah. So you cant safe much more amounts of RAM.
[15:52] <joelengt_> :D
[15:52] <nicomachus> joelengt_: this channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[15:52] <joelengt_> Ok i am only try xD
[15:52] <joelengt_> thanks
[15:52] <nicomachus> !alis > joelengt_ you can use this to find channels for anime or whatever:
[15:54] <akis> bekks: i safe a lot using opera instead firefox and the system runs smoothly now but if i open too many tabs slows down.
[15:55] <bekks> akis: So upgrade your RAM.
[15:56] <vfw> More RAM drill sargent!
[15:57] <akis> bekks: too late...no ddr2 667 hz available. and even i could upgrade it the cpu is old too (atom intel)
[15:57] <bekks> akis: Thats not true. Technically.
[15:57] <bekks> You can still buy DDR2-667 RAM out there.
[15:57] <akis> bekks: not in my country.
[15:58] <vfw> akis: No ebay?
[15:58] <bekks> Using Amazon, e.g., you can buy it in another country, cant you?
[15:58] <nicomachus> what country?
[15:58] <vfw> akis: Desktop or Laptop?
[15:58] <bekks> Peoples republic of North Korea problably, without Amazon or Ebay.
[15:59] <nicomachus> heh
[15:59] <akis> nicomachus: greece, i searched already, no -easy- availability
[15:59] <Kissamos> I have plugged in my android tablet and I can access the micro sd card from ubuntu. can I format it to ntfs?
[15:59] <akis> vfw: laptop. DIMM
[15:59] <vfw> bekks: Rather dismal situation.... ;(
[16:00] <bekks> akis: So just use amazon.com
[16:00] <vfw>         http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1311.R1.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.XDDR2-667.TRS0&_nkw=ddr2+667&_sacat=0
[16:01] <Maurius> Hi
[16:03] <akis> vfw: this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-2GB-DDR2-667-MHZ-PC2-5300-SO-DIMM-200PIN-Laptop-Notebook-Memory-/271253680151?hash=item3f27fab017:g:b1oAAOxyDLZSAS76 is actually a very good deal.
[16:03] <nicomachus> akis: just make sure you have an open slot.
[16:03] <vfw> Well, there you go.
[16:03] <nicomachus> akis: sudo lshw -C memory
[16:04] <nicomachus> should show an empty slot, I think
[16:04] <nicomachus> there may be a better way, lemme check
[16:04] <akis> nicomachus: no open slot. it would replace the existing 1 gb.
[16:04] <akis> nicomachus: i checked it earlier.
[16:04] <nicomachus> akis: what's the max for the hardware?
[16:04] <nicomachus> sudo dmidecode -t memory
[16:05] <akis> nicomachus: max 2gb, one dimm only.
[16:05] <nicomachus> and you only have 1 now?
[16:05] <nicomachus> ok then.
[16:06] <akis> nicomachus: yep.
[16:07] <akis> ok, guys, thenk you for your time today, have a nice day and Merry Christmas.
[16:08] <nomic> agi78 = spambot
[16:12] <Maurius> Is it possible to overclock Ubuntu touch ?
[16:12] <nicomachus> what
[16:13] <nicomachus> Maurius: you can't overclock an OS.
[16:14] <joci> what do you mean by overlock ?
[16:14] <ra21vi> Maurius, download RT kernel.. your os will run 3 times faster
[16:14] <Maurius> If you have android, then you can instal doomkernel. Ubuntu touch have some ability from android. Everything what you need is open bootloader (which need to for booting Ubuntu Touch itself). If I have open bootloader, tehn how I can overclock Ubuntu Touch ?
[16:15] <Maurius> Rt kernel ? How to install it ?
[16:15] <nicomachus> Maurius: also, #ubuntu-touch exists
[16:15] <ra21vi> Maurius, overclocking is done on hardware, where it is supported or there is possibility to do it..
[16:15] <xdaimon> Hello. Im trying to set the backlight brightness by cli. The backlight keys work in unity, what command would I pass to the command prompt to change the brightness?
[16:16] <eliot__> 0.0
[16:16] <nicomachus> xdaimon: see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/540911/how-to-adjust-screen-brightness-in-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[16:16] <ra21vi> Maurius, is somewhre it is advertised as OS being overclocked, it must be specific tuning to make it faster for specific condition or device (HDD etc).. its not really overclocking
[16:19] <Maurius> I haev problem with nvidia coolbits in my Ubuntu 16.04. I unlock my powermizer, but there is only 3 options (poversave, performance, adapt.). How to manually put some frequencies to powermizer as new level of powermizer ?
[16:20] <ingodid> so grub can't find my ubuntu partition now
[16:20] <ingodid> any pointers for recovery?
[16:20] <ingodid> loading live disk now
[16:21] <ingodid> gparted still has all paritions listed
[16:22] <ingodid> boot repair is next, trying to rebuild grub
[16:23] <kittykitty_> looks like theres no help on the web and reinstalling stuff doesnt work at all but now it says 'Error: Failed to load plugin: unityshell' when i try to load compiz
[16:25] <kittykitty_> i take it nobody knows how to actually make unity work with compiz then? Because it's super annoying now
[16:25] <nicomachus> kittykitty_: be patient please. and more details would help. Specific error messages in a pastebin, including commands, would be nice.
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> kittykitty_  unity is a compiz layer over gnome3
[16:26] <Andselisk> Just don't use compiz, it is a mess now. Any other compositor will do.
[16:26] <kittykitty_> sorry nicomachus, the only help ive actually had from this irc has been to install 15.10 instead of 16.04 and thats not really help. Been trying to fix for 2 days now
[16:26] <kittykitty_> Andselisk, unity needs compiz. I wish i could use something else
[16:27] <nicomachus> well 15.10 is EOL, so no one here should have recommended that.
[16:27] <nicomachus> you could use Unity 8 and Mir, but that's not really a solution either.
[16:27] <nacc> kittykitty_: anyone recommending 15.10 was deceiving you.
[16:27] <Andselisk> It does, so don't use unity:) I tried to deliver this point
[16:27] <kittykitty_> unity 8 is a mess and i dont want to use it lol
[16:27] <Andselisk> Exactly:D
[16:27] <nicomachus> kittykitty_: ok, then the specific error messages I mentioned would be helpful.
[16:27] <kittykitty_> but, unity is the best DE, no questions lol. (no arguments)
[16:28] <kittykitty_> ok, one sec nicomachus
[16:28] <kittykitty_> need to install gnome panel so i can move windows around
[16:30] <kittykitty_> ok, so i cant move windows still, thats great
[16:30] <Andselisk> Unity is a decent DE, but it never worked out for me. I remember compiz working nicely with gnome2, but these days I try to avoid it at any cost
[16:30] <kittykitty_> works fine with a fresh install but i just upgraded from 14.04
[16:30] <nicomachus> to what?
[16:30] <kittykitty_> 16.04
[16:31] <kittykitty_> on multi arch, using the intel xorg stuff
[16:31] <Andselisk> I would just install xfce if you need job done
[16:31] <nicomachus> ok good.
[16:31] <nicomachus> Andselisk: not a solution.
[16:31] <CodeMouse92> Morning all. I'm a little desperate...my laptop screen stopped working this morning (it blacks out after showing post and GRUB.) The external screen still works.
[16:31] <CodeMouse92> I have an important meeting this morning, so I need this fixed. Not even sure where to begin.
[16:31] <kittykitty_> tried deleting .config and .compiz, i dont have a .compiz-1 anymore
[16:32] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | CodeMouse92
[16:32] <ingodid> CodeMouse92: is the "turn monitor off" FN button on?
[16:32] <kittykitty_> every time i try to enable the compiz plugin in ccsm, it complains about keybindings, so i sort that out by not setting/ignoring them but it unchecks the plugin if you press back and look at it again
[16:32] <CodeMouse92> ingodid: I checked that, and nope, it isn't that.
[16:32] <ingodid> k -- just checking :)
[16:33] <CodeMouse92> I think there was a kernel update yesterday, tho, so NOMODESET miiiiight be it.
[16:33] <CodeMouse92> Although I'm afraid of screwing something up and preventing the external screen from working too
[16:33] <kittykitty_> need to use 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6 ccsm' to launch ccsm because it complains about libraries not being there too
[16:33] <nicomachus> CodeMouse92: nomodeset shouldn't do that.
[16:33] <nicomachus> shouldn't mess with the external screen.
[16:34] <CodeMouse92> nicomachus: Okay, cool. Let me try that...
[16:34] <CodeMouse92> nicomachus: How *do* I set it? (I just woke up, so I'm not all here yet.)
[16:34] <nicomachus> CodeMouse92: There's a link in the factoid I sent
[16:35] <nicomachus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[16:35] <kittykitty_> when i run compiz from the tty 1 terminal it uses the ini backend but the other compiz uses the gsettings backend... shouldnt they both use dconf?
[16:35] <nacc> kittykitty_: have you tried *not* installing non-ubuntu packages (the intel stuff, i assume you mean their packages)
[16:36] <kittykitty_> nacc, i wanted to remove their xorg driver but i have no idea how
[16:36] <nacc> kittykitty_: i was helping someone else do this yesterday too ... let me see if i can find it
[16:36] <kittykitty_> cant even load another program to use because i cant move windows around so it'll cover this box up lol
[16:36] <CodeMouse92> nicomachus: I think I'm having trouble parsing that link, then. >.<
[16:36] <CodeMouse92> I got as far as opening up /etc/grub/default...
[16:37] <nacc> kittykitty_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/343390/how-to-remove-intels-open-source-technology-center-driver maybe?
[16:37] <CodeMouse92> But I'm really not sure how the line is supposed to even look. >,<
[16:37] <CodeMouse92> (Sorry I'm such a spacebar this morning. I swear I'll get my coffee after this.)
[16:37] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: you'll have a line starting like this there: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[16:37] <nacc> CodeMouse92: get your coffee first, grub is not worth messing around with when not awake :)
[16:37] <kittykitty_> ill take a look thanks nacc, ill be a sec
[16:38] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: OH! the one with "quiet splash"? I add it there, right?
[16:38] <nicomachus> yes.
[16:39] <tomreyn> CodeMouse92: once you got the coffee, just add "nomodeset" to the end, without adding quotation marks, just a blank space.
[16:39] <CodeMouse92> End result of that line (nothing else changed): "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[16:39] <CodeMouse92> Mm... `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"`
[16:39]  * CodeMouse92 goes to get his coffee before saving this
[16:40]  * genii pops his head in to investigate all the "coffee" highlights, then wanders back to work
[16:40] <nacc> CodeMouse92: right, (where ` is indicating extracted from the file itself but not in the file)
[16:40] <nacc> genii: heh
[16:41] <nicomachus> genii has an alt nick that's just "coffee" so he catches any mentions
[16:42] <OerHeks> roastedcoffeebeantea
[16:42] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Right.
[16:43] <CodeMouse92> I tend to use backticks to quote code. Habit carried over from remarkup and ReST
[16:43]  * CodeMouse92 sips the reheated leftover coffee while the new pot perks
[16:43] <nacc> CodeMouse92: yep, understood -- just wanted to be clear :)
[16:44] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Thank you :)
[16:44] <CodeMouse92> Running `sudo update-grub` now, and then I'll have to reboot
[16:44] <CodeMouse92> BRB ya'll
[16:45] <kang0> Which are other Linux related channels
[16:45] <nacc> !alis | kang0
[16:46] <OerHeks> kang0, join them all https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[16:48] <CodeMouse92> It's worse. Now it doesn't even detect the existence of the laptop monitor at ALL
[16:48] <nacc> CodeMouse92: can you pastebin `xrandr` output?
[16:49] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Sure.
[16:49] <kittykitty_> ok, i got those removed nacc, ill try a reboot and come back
[16:49] <CodeMouse92> nacc: https://bpaste.net/show/c772b3cc0bff
[16:49] <nacc> kittykitty_: sounds good, it's just easier to support without those packages in this channel, as they are not ubuntu (proper)
[16:50] <CodeMouse92> nacc: I just reverted my changes to GRUB (removed nomodeset), so I can reboot again if you want to go back to square one
[16:50] <kittykitty_> i have no idea what they even do for the system, just helped on 12.04 and 14.04
[16:50] <nacc> CodeMouse92: hrm, yeah, maybe grab the output from the no-nomodeset output too
[16:50] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Okay, brb
[16:50] <kang0> OerHeks Thanks nacc anyone of you with Windows expertise too?
[16:51] <nacc> kang0: there's probably a windows channel
[16:51] <nacc> kang0: use alis...
[16:51] <OerHeks> kang0, wait, this is ubuntu support only
[16:52] <lloyd__> I am having trouble getting sound from my soundcdard through the s/pdif port. I can get sound from the analog out port. have installed pavucontrol, and I have unmuted everything in alsamixer. In also mixer the s/pdif has 00 in it but no options for changing the volume. In pavucontrol, I can choose s/pdif for my output sound but nothing comes out of it.  I have a ubuntu 16.04LTS and an Oxygen CMI8788 audio card
[16:52] <kang0> We may go in pvt
[16:52] <nacc> kang0: don't PM for support, it's considered rude.
[16:52] <kittykitty> so, no change
[16:52] <kang0> That's fine
[16:53] <kittykitty> ccsm says '  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 40, in <module>
[16:53] <kittykitty>     from gtk import _gtk
[16:53] <kittykitty> ImportError: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libharfbuzz.so.0: undefined symbol: FT_Reference_Face' as it did before too
[16:53] <nacc> lloyd__: when i had a sound card with s/pdif, i had to unmute a 'digital mixer' knob, iirc, in alsamixer
[16:53] <nacc> kittykitty: this is the distribution pacakged version of ccsm?
[16:53] <lloyd__> nacc, I did that in alsamixer
[16:53] <kittykitty> nacc, should be, don't think i have another version
[16:53] <nacc> kittykitty: this is 16.04, right?
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> kittykitty  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[16:54] <kittykitty> yeah
[16:54] <lloyd__> nacc, when I did unmute it, it never allowed me to change its volume either.
[16:54] <nacc> lloyd__: right, it's just a on/off knob on my sound card, not a volume adjust
[16:54] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Aaaaand, I'm back. standby for paste dump
[16:54] <nacc> CodeMouse92: sounds good
[16:54] <kittykitty> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[16:55] <nacc> kittykitty: that lib comes from 'libharfbuzz0b'
[16:55] <kittykitty> yeah i thought so, got it installed i think nacc
[16:55] <kittykitty> nacc libharfbuzz0b is already the newest version (1.0.1-1ubuntu0.1).
[16:55] <nacc> oh it's failing in that lib
[16:55] <CodeMouse92> nacc: https://bpaste.net/show/31154aaad5d8
[16:55] <kittykitty> purge it?
[16:56] <nacc> kittykitty: hrm, let me think
[16:56] <nacc> CodeMouse92: ah ok, so it thinks it *is* driving both panels
[16:56] <nacc> CodeMouse92: afaict, x thinks it is showing two side by side screens
[16:56] <kittykitty> im multiarch still, dont know if that breaks anything for upgrades etc
[16:57] <nacc> CodeMouse92: anything suspicious in /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or so)?
[16:57] <nacc> kittykitty: `apt policy libharfbuzz0b` in a pastebin?
[16:57] <nacc> kittykitty: what do you mean by multiarch? you have i386 and amd64 packages installed?
[16:58] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Xorg.0.log or Xorg.1.log?
[16:58] <kittykitty> nacc yeah i386 too
[16:58] <kittykitty> http://pastebin.com/9vFeaGQd
[16:58] <kittykitty> nacc ^
[16:58] <nacc> CodeMouse92: probably .0
[16:59] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Here's the tail -50. I don't see anything weird, but I don't know what to look for either https://bpaste.net/show/198c7a7a31fa
[17:00] <nacc> CodeMouse92: just a wonder, if you unplug the external monitor, does the internal panel come back on?
[17:00] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Nope, tried that :(
[17:00] <nacc> CodeMouse92: ok
[17:00] <nacc> CodeMouse92: oh sorry, it might be in ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log now
[17:00] <CodeMouse92> nacc: After dumping the xrandr stuff, I actually had to shut off the laptop panel in settings just to see this window :\
[17:00] <nacc> CodeMouse92: can you pastebin that whole file?
[17:00] <VileGent> nacc weak voltage on the externel port?
[17:00] <CodeMouse92> nacc: You got it
[17:01] <nacc> VileGent: it's certainly possible, but that would, i think, make the external not display, not hte internal?
[17:01] <CodeMouse92> nacc: No such file
[17:02] <VileGent> nacc,  yes that can cause the external to work and pull so much power that the internal will not work untill the machine is reset without the external pluged in
[17:02] <VileGent> CodeMouse92, what lappy is this
[17:03] <CodeMouse92> VileGent: Except I already restarted w/o the external plugged in, no dice
[17:03] <CodeMouse92> VileGent: Toshiba Satellite. I'll find the model...
[17:03] <CodeMouse92> Never had this prob before tho
[17:03] <kittykitty> nacc i can get into ccsm with  LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6 but it still deselects the unity plugin when i press back
[17:03] <VileGent> yep Toshiba and Dell had those issues
[17:03] <CodeMouse92> VileGent: P745D
[17:03] <nacc> VileGent: oh interesting
[17:03] <kittykitty> nacc all of the icons are the missing one too
[17:05] <CodeMouse92> VileGent: Do I need to roll back to a previous kernal (the one from before yesterday's update?)
[17:05] <lemmz> hi @ll, first steps on a freshly installed 16.04.1 amd64 Desktop variant, extensions.gnome.org gives me an error that it cannot find my gnome version. help?
[17:05] <VileGent> was it working before then?then?
[17:06] <kittykitty> nacc unity tweak tool reset unity doesnt even set compiz up anymore
[17:06] <CodeMouse92> VileGent: Yes
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> lemmz  tip: first get familiar with the new desktop, then do experiments with extensions
[17:07] <VileGent> CodeMouse92,  then yes try the older kernel (i dont know how mnay ubuntu keeps by default )
[17:07] <CodeMouse92> brb then
[17:08] <lemmz> MonkeyDust thanks, but id ont want to experiment, i want my sticky note extensions
[17:08] <lemmz> -s
[17:09] <VileGent> lemmz, but are you running gnome or unity
[17:09] <lemmz> no idea, gnome i guess
[17:09] <lemmz> lots of gnome tools here
[17:09] <VileGent> i suspect with that error you are running unity
[17:10] <j41> lemmz: You say it's a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[17:10] <lemmz> yup 1 hour ago
[17:10] <j41> lemmz: If you have a 'sidebar' (a bit like a dock on a Mac, at the side of your screen), you're using Unity
[17:10] <lemmz> k, ty, i use unity then :)
[17:11] <j41> If you want GNOME, you can install Ubuntu GNOME
[17:11] <CodeMouse92> VileGent, nacc: Aaaaaaaaand, that worked. Previous kernal
[17:11] <j41> Which is a supported flavour of Ubuntu, but instead of Unity, it has GNOME
[17:11] <vulcom> y deanker pegger
[17:12] <VileGent> CodeMouse92,  file a bug on the new kernel
[17:12] <CodeMouse92> Now using 4.4.0-53-generic instead of 4.4.0-57-generic
[17:12] <vulcom> Fun buns.  Five a lump. Rash neh.  Five trump.  Rump.  I said daddy deaddy dean to bun thing.  I said a reanker pegger puh nigger
[17:12] <vulcom> Fun baddy dean I said a run trum thinking.  Somethinkinking.  I'm to be a rean to bad dean I am trum thinking a lum.en I said daddy dean bun uh puh-pum.  Rump.  I said a reanker pegger puh pum puh muh nigger. Rump.  I said am rum thinking. Ass nigger. Ass nigger puh muh muh puh nigger
[17:12] <CodeMouse92> VileGent: Right....where's that bugtracker again?
[17:12] <xxxx> hi, i install ARandR for lubuntu to use de hdmi dual monitor but now the display doesn't work.. just the hdmi monitor
[17:12] <lemmz> plz bear with me, but isnt unity just a windowmanager? And Gnome a desktop environment?
[17:13] <CodeMouse92> Pici: Huh, if it weren't for the offensive language, that'd have almost been a rather fun nonsense song.
[17:13] <nicomachus> it's like reading The Moon is a Harsh Mistress...
[17:13] <Pici> TANSTAAFL
[17:13] <nicomachus> wat
[17:13] <vulcom> Funs.  Rump.  A can be a rean bun thing am pum.  Rump-pump-puh-pum.  I said a lum run uh pump.  Somethinking.  A canking.  Rump. Rash neh. Rash nigger. A canker pegger.  Rump.  I'm puh muh when I said daddy buns. Rash nigger. Rum puh muh puh puh-pum.m run buns.  Rum puh pegger. A canker pegger.  Five trum pegger. A can bad dead daddy deaddy bun uh muh puh-pump-puh-pump-pum.  Rum thing about
[17:13] <vulcom> rum thing about rum thinking. Rash nigger
[17:13] <vulcom> Funs.  Five thinking.  Five to be a lump-pump.  Somethinkinking.  Something am thing.  I'm thing.  Five trun to bun uh puh puh pump. Ass nigger
[17:13] <j41> lemmz: Unity and GNOME are both desktop enviroments afaik
[17:13] <nicomachus> Pici your ban didn't work
[17:14] <lemmz> j41 but unity has only partial gnome support i guess ?
[17:15] <j41> Unity doesn't have anything to do with GNOME akaik
[17:15] <j41> afaik*
[17:15] <nicomachus> j41: yes it does...
[17:15] <j41> oh
[17:15] <nicomachus> it's built on top of gnome
[17:15] <VileGent> unity is a fork of gnome3
[17:15] <j41> ill see myself out
[17:15]  * j41 hides
[17:15] <lemmz> :)
[17:15] <kittykitty> is the compiz plugin for unity a package or in the unity package?
[17:16] <lemmz> so there is no easy way to get gnome extensions to eork in unity?
[17:16] <lemmz> -e+w
[17:16] <VileGent> lemmz, most long time irc users are fluent in typoense
[17:16] <VileGent> laters
[17:17] <gqgunhed> Pici: wasn't it's nickname "vulcom" with a "c"?
[17:17] <j41> nicomachus, VileGent: Thanks for correcting me!
[17:17] <gqgunhed> s/it's/its/
[17:18] <Pici> gqgunhed: it used two different nicks, which is why the ban is now on the IP
[17:18] <vfw> kittykitty: ask #compuz
[17:18] <nicomachus> #compiz
[17:18] <jubo2> y0 and thanks for the awesome series of OS we know as **buntu!
[17:18] <lemmz> alright, thanks guys! l8R
[17:18] <xxxx> i install ARandR for lubuntu to use de hdmi dual monitor but now the display doesn't work.. just the hdmi monitor
[17:18] <jubo2> Does this look kosher http://www.tecmint.com/install-ubuntu-16-04-alongside-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/ ?
[17:19] <gqgunhed> Pici: good work
[17:19] <jubo2> I just got the other laptop to the right side of this one and it is currently running only Win10
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot | jubo2
[17:20] <jubo2> I want Kubuntu but when I went the usual BIOS -> USB HDD boot priority it wasn't saying "Lemme shrink this NTFS to make some room for me" and I was like WHAT?!!?
[17:20]  * CodeMouse92 does NOT know how to file this bug on kernel.org
[17:20] <jubo2> Thanks MonkeyDust
[17:23] <nacc> CodeMouse92: kittykitty: apologies, was out walking the dogs. Reading backscroll
[17:24] <jubo2> AAAAAAAAA! This is horrible! Get me outta here! Windows 10.. enter WiFi shared secret wrong once and unable to find place to retry entering the correct key
[17:24] <nacc> CodeMouse92: not kernel.org
[17:24] <nacc> !bug | CodeMouse92
[17:25] <nacc> CodeMouse92: in your case, `ubuntu-bug linux`
[17:25] <CodeMouse92> Ohhhhhhhhhh
[17:25] <OerHeks> jubo2,  try ##windows ??
[17:26] <jubo2> Please. No.
[17:26] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Uhm, do I need to boot into the non-working kernel and run that?
[17:26] <nacc> kittykitty: can you pastebin `ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libharfbuzz.so.0` ?
[17:26] <nacc> CodeMouse92: hrm, maybe, although you should be able to file the bug report just fine from where you are now
[17:26] <OerHeks> jubo2, your Q is not valid for this help channel anyway.
[17:27] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Just by running `ubuntu-bug linux` in the terminal?
[17:27] <OerHeks> unless you want to format and put ubuntu on
[17:27] <nacc> CodeMouse92: just specify in the report the working and non-working kernel versions, you might need to get the dmesg or other logs from the failing case, but hopefully the kernel team will tell you wahat they need to see
[17:27] <nacc> CodeMouse92: yes
[17:28] <CodeMouse92> nacc: I see nowhere to *say* anything. :\
[17:29] <xxxx> how can i fix display? just hdmi works even if configure in ARandR or monitor settings
[17:30] <nacc> CodeMouse92: it might be after the bug gets filed, you'd edit the description
[17:30] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Oh. Hm, okay.
[17:32] <OerHeks> xxxx, 1st option might fix yours, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution removing monitors.xml
[17:33] <xxxx> OerHeks: rm: cannot remove '/home/xxxx/.config/monitors.xml': No such file or directory
[17:34] <xxxx> i believe display it's broken, but changing the bright make less or more dark screen
[17:38] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Thanks, filed the report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1652354
[17:42] <nacc> CodeMouse92: sounds good, hopefully kernel team will respond relatively soon
[17:47] <eksdi> hi
[17:47] <eksdi> how to install a package from backports in 16.04?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> eksdi, make sure your backports are enabled or copied to your /etc/aptsources.list then update and upgrade
[17:49] <BluesKaj> correction /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !backports | eksdi
[17:52] <eksdi> ok, i'm gonna try it. see you soon guyz
[17:54] <stan_man_can> Anyone have experience getting bluetooth headphones working with Ubuntu 16.04?
[17:55] <stan_man_can> is bluetooth just... broken?
[17:56] <nacc> stan_man_can: mine have worked in the past, i don't use them actively in bt mode, though
[17:57] <stan_man_can> nacc, what bluetooth adapter do you use? or is it build into your motherboard?
[17:57] <nacc> stan_man_can: built into my laptop here, and i have used a USB bt adapter in the past
[17:58]  * win32 stan_man_can -> rfkill list
[17:58] <nicomachus> stan_man_can: 1. bluetooth as a protocol is largely broken and always has been.
[17:58] <stan_man_can> I'm  using a bluetooth USB adapter, it will kinda pair with my headset but it lists the device as "Unknown" instead of a headset
[17:58] <nicomachus> 2. I've gotten my headphones to work by turning bluetooth on and off a few times, and un-pairing and re-pairing a few times.
[17:58] <stan_man_can> and i can't set it as an audio output
[17:59] <nicomachus> it's not ideal, but it works for me.
[17:59] <stan_man_can> I can "pair" but i can't use it
[17:59]  * win32 stan_man_can 
[17:59] <win32>     emacs -nw /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
[17:59] <win32>     Change #AutoEnable=false to AutoEnable=true
[17:59] <win32>     service sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[18:02] <stan_man_can> win32, Softr and hard blocked both set to No
[18:02] <macskay> hi guys, im trying to set my PS1 env-variable but when setting it nothing happens: https://www.refheap.com/124376
[18:02] <macskay> why does that happen?
[18:03] <win32> stan_man_can, enable ur phone bluetooth check at ur pc if ur adapter work.
[18:04] <ubp> how are you setting it macskay?
[18:04] <stan_man_can> win32, the headset works with my macbook pro and my iphone with no issues at all
[18:04] <dario_> salve volevo installare ubuntu tweak ma non riesco neanche da deb ho installato ubuntu 16.04 lts
[18:04] <macskay> ubp: just manually for the moment by typing PS1="myprompt: "
[18:04] <macskay> but I also tried sourcing it via .bashrc
[18:06] <ubp> it should work through .bashrc
[18:07] <ubp> remember to restart bash by typing bash
[18:07] <eksdi> BluesKaj:
[18:07] <eksdi> ubottu: everything went allright. thanks
[18:07] <macskay> udp: doesnt change anything
[18:08] <stan_man_can> nicomachus, I agree with bluetooth being a crapshoot but it's too bad that it works flawlessly on so many devices but so badly in Linux still
[18:08] <gebruiker> how do I install spell / grammer check for libreoffice?
[18:08] <eksdi> gebruiker: hunspell?
[18:09] <ubp> macskay that's odd
[18:12] <ubp> macskay: after typing PS1="myprompt: " try typing echo $PS1
[18:13] <stan_man_can> yeah OSX and my iPhone the headset syncs pretty much immediatly
[18:14] <stan_man_can> my other laptop and other desktop both are windows and have built in bluetooth so i'm not sure how to test the adapter
[18:14] <stan_man_can> This is the  bluetooth adapter http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le/
[18:15] <win32> stan_man_can, wich headset u have?
[18:15] <stan_man_can> win32, Sennheiser PXC-550
[18:16] <stan_man_can> https://en-us.sennheiser.com/wireless-headphone-headset-bluetooth-noise-cancelling-pxc-550-travel
[18:18] <win32> stan_man_can, reset ur headset.
[18:19] <stan_man_can> and then?
[18:19] <win32> stan_man_can, https://en-us.sennheiser.com/global-downloads/file/6983/PXC550_IM_A02_EN.pdf >> page 23
[18:21] <stan_man_can> win32, that just shows me how to turn them off?
[18:22] <win32> stan_man_can, me to wen i can find my EU BOOM , i pres two time bluetooth to rest end find it.
[18:26] <gebruiker> package libreoffice-grammarcheck-uk is not available in xenial - what is going on here?
[18:34] <stan_man_can> win32, strange i'm not able to do the factory reset
[18:34] <stan_man_can> or maybe it's happening but not removing connected devices
[18:35] <bytesaber> If one installed Xubuntu, can one convert it to Ubuntu?
[18:36] <nicomachus> yes.
[18:37] <mcphail> !info ubuntu-desktop | bytesaber
[18:37] <bytesaber> an older google suggested just installed "ubuntu-desktop"
[18:37] <bytesaber> So is Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Gnome, Kubuntu.....  even considered a different distro?
[18:37] <nicomachus> no
[18:38] <nicomachus> they are flavors of the Ubuntu distro
[18:38] <mcphail> bytesaber: they are different flavours of the same distro
[18:38] <bandit> hello all i is new on ubuntu
[18:41] <tomreyn> hi there
[18:47] <physixer> I get 'washington post' pop-ups of various news articles. Using 14.04. How do I disable all behind-the-scenes network activity (other than maybe ntpd)?
[18:48] <nicomachus> physixer: you can use something like pi-hole
[18:49] <nicomachus> https://pi-hole.net/
[18:49] <physixer> nicomachus: lemme check.
[18:50] <ptytty> list all man pages?
[18:50] <bytesaber> Does Conanical "put together" the Xubuntu release?
[18:51] <bytesaber> any of the non vanilla ones
[18:52] <vfw> bytesaber: xubuntu lubuntu kbuntu ubuntu - yes all of them.
[18:53] <vfw> bytesaber: Not sure what you mean by "non vanilla"
[18:54] <bytesaber> vfw, I guess i think of Unity as the standard vanilla release
[18:54] <vfw> all of tthe above but no others.
[18:55] <vfw> bytesaber: Oh ok.  Yes, unity is ubuntu.
[18:55] <DaZ99> "vinilla" are standard distro's
[18:55] <xangua> Vinilo
[18:55] <DaZ99> I guess offshoots are non-vanilla :)
[18:55] <vfw> Ok, got it.
[18:56] <vfw> I call it based on, vs core
[18:57] <physixer> pi-hole solution doesn't fit with me. Feels very M$/windowy/anti-virus. I'd much rather find out the packages involves and 'sudo apt-get remove' the heck out of them.
[18:57] <physixer> *packages involved
[18:59] <nicomachus> physixer: then use clamav
[19:01] <vfw> physixer: For MS Windows, there is not an option and there is not easier way than to use some sort of anti-virus software.  I think the same applies for what you want to do to ubuntu.
[19:01] <vfw> physixer: But no, clamav won't do it, I'm sure of that.
[19:03] <physixer> vfw: not even if I'm willing to remove ubuntu-desktop (whatever?) I use i3-window-manger, if I install ubuntu-server then xorg, and i3 on top, would I still get all the ad mess?
[19:04] <raub> physixer: I do not know how you are getting those ads. I know I do not get any but then again my desktop is server + windows manager (unity in this case)
[19:05] <xangua> What ad mess? Huh
[19:05] <quasi6> Can someone help with installing the latest version of FileZilla?
[19:05] <raub> physixer: if those ads are ads, you may want to be a dick and redirect their hostnames to 127.0.0.1
[19:06] <quasi6> I've had no luck compiling it myself and I don't know of another way to update.
[19:06] <physixer> raub: my install is 6-8 years old. I started with 10.04, then upgraded to 12.04, then to 14.04. In the meantime I installed/removed a gazillion packages, and now my ubuntu is a complete mess. I think I need a fresh start.
[19:06] <raub> physixer: might be a good idea honestly
[19:06] <xangua> Did you try a fresh Firefox profile? physixer
[19:06] <quasi6> https://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Compiling_FileZilla_3_and_Getting_Dependencies_on_Linux
[19:07] <surfacebeneath> o/
[19:07] <tomreyn> quasi6: why do you want / need to update it to a version newer than that available in the ubuntu repositories?
[19:07] <quasi6> I've installed the necessary dependencies but it won't configure
[19:07] <quasi6> tomreyn: there is a feature that I need in the latest release
[19:07] <raub> Have a vm guest which has very slow network connections and I do not know where to look for a clue
[19:08] <DaZ99> i would recommend a fresh install
[19:08] <DaZ99> i had to do fresh install after many upgrades
[19:08] <tomreyn> quasi6: and another software doesn't provide it? if so, have you looked for a PPA?
[19:08] <stan_man_can> Super frustrating, my bluetooth headset appeared to be synced properly for like 2 minutes and then won't happen anymore
[19:08] <raub> ss -ti tells me nothing
[19:08] <quasi6> I haven't found a PPA
[19:08] <raub> Another gues in the same vm host works nice and smoothly
[19:08] <quasi6> Well, I installed from ubuntu's package manager, but it doesn't provide the latest version
[19:09] <tomreyn> quasi6: what's the feature you need?
[19:09] <DaZ99> sometimes wont get latest version via package manager
[19:10] <quasi6> The queue is saved after closing the program so that I can resume file transfers without having to restart completely or use the 'skip duplicate files' option
[19:10] <quasi6> When I restart FileZilla, I lose my download queue
[19:10] <DaZ99> for example I use FreeCAD, and package manager installs 0.15 yet I got 0.16 from the FreeCAD site.
[19:10] <surfacebeneath> Running ubuntu server 16.10, went to update and libgolang-gopkg-lxc-go-lxc.v2-1 is being held back... tbph idk what that does or what the update is for... but I try to stay on top of updates :p is this something I should be concerned about
[19:10] <tomreyn> quasi6: i see. well that's quite specific indeed. you could do it on the command line instead, but i assume you prefer a GUI.
[19:11] <quasi6> Yes, since I have limited command line knowledge
[19:12] <blackflow> surfacebeneath: it's a dependency of LXD and it apparently is broken
[19:13] <tomreyn> quasi6: post the output of the configure script, all of it.
[19:13] <surfacebeneath> gotcha, so I should just ignore it until its fixed?
[19:13] <quasi6> When I try the command ./configure, I get "command not found"
[19:13] <tomreyn> quasi6: oh, so you're just in the wrong directory, or missed a step.
[19:13] <quasi6> yeah
[19:13] <blackflow> surfacebeneath: I would assume so, yes
[19:13] <quasi6> Not sure which directory I need to be in
[19:14] <quasi6> I installed the tar.bz2, extracted it, and open the extracted directory in the terminal
[19:14] <surfacebeneath> blackflow cool, thanks... went to see about force installing it... they number of packages it said it wanted to removed spooked me
[19:14] <surfacebeneath> the*
[19:14] <quasi6> *and opened
[19:15] <quasi6> then tried sudo ./configure
[19:15] <tomreyn> quasi6: where did you download this tar from? exact URL please.
[19:16] <quasi6> V
[19:16] <quasi6> https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=client
[19:16] <quasi6> (the sourceforge link)
[19:17] <physixer> xangua: nope, does it (Firefox profiler) scan the OS?
[19:18] <xangua> physixer: I don't really know where are you getting this adds,I assumed Firefox
[19:18] <tomreyn> quasi6: that's a web page. the only link i see there points to a file called FileZilla_3.23.0.2_x86_64-linux-gnu.tar.bz2. based on the file name, that's a compiled but not packaged version of filezilla.
[19:18] <quasi6> That's what I downloaded
[19:18] <tomreyn> quasi6: i.e. it's not source code
[19:18] <quasi6> I see
[19:19] <quasi6> I guess my question then is, how do I install the packaged version?
[19:19] <physixer> xangua: oh I know what you're saying. I have tried fresh profiles but I doubt the ads are from my firefox. They pop-up in the bottom-right corner of my screen, don't look related to firefox, might be an OS-level ad-package or something.
[19:19] <tomreyn> quasi6: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install filezilla
[19:20] <tomreyn> quasi6: but you said you prefer not to use it since it'll install an older version
[19:20] <quasi6> Yes
[19:20] <xangua> physixer: I've never heard of such thing, maybe a screen capture can help
[19:20] <ithomas> whats good with filezill
[19:20] <ithomas> a
[19:20] <quasi6> I'm looking specifically for the latest version
[19:20] <ithomas> im running backbox
[19:20] <quasi6> So I'm unsure of how to get it running on my machine if I cannot do so from the ubuntu ppa
[19:20] <xangua> ithomas: not supported here
[19:21] <ithomas> what
[19:21] <LissajousPattern> is xubuntu supported here?
[19:22] <tomreyn> LissajousPattern: yes
[19:22] <LissajousPattern> well firefox will not open on a fresh install of xubuntu
[19:23] <tomreyn> quasi6: the archive you downloaded contains a version of filezilla which is already compiled, so you don't need to do it yourself (if you trust this build enough).
[19:23] <Odd> Okay, so I'm doing some work on a machine I have that someone else helped me set up. The guy setting it up closed down every single port it had due to "security", but I need to open up three or so of them. Can I simply open them up, or do I have to do something specific to have them "safe" while open?
[19:23] <LissajousPattern> had the same issue today with lubuntu on a fresh install as well
[19:23] <xangua> LissajousPattern: did you try to run Firefox from terminal? Does it show any output?
[19:23] <LissajousPattern> very little
[19:23] <tomreyn> quasi6: if you want to use it, just unpack that archive to, say, your home directory, then cd filezilla3/bin and run filezilla there
[19:24] <quasi6> I'll try that
[19:24] <Dom___> hello can anyone help me i kinda messed up my ubuntu ... i just wanted to upgrade php from 5.6 to 7.0 .... then my nginx wouldn't use the new php version and my mysql server now won't start anymore .... please help me at least ... where to check to find a solution because online there are million different solving hints but don't know which fits for me
[19:24] <LissajousPattern> xangua, ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 1609
[19:25] <xangua> Dom___: you could start by detailing what you did
[19:25] <Dom___> installing php7 with apt-get
[19:25] <tomreyn> Dom___: also state your ubuntu release
[19:26] <tomreyn> lsb_release -d
[19:26] <LissajousPattern> xangua, and then two more lines statign send continue signal and waiting for continue signal
[19:26] <LissajousPattern> thats all
[19:26] <Dom___> ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[19:26] <nacc> Dom___: there is on php7 in ubuntu 14.04, you must be using a PPA
[19:27] <Dom___> and as far as i can tell php 5.6 and 7 are installed right now
[19:27] <tomreyn> s/ on / no /
[19:27] <Dom___> repository ppa:ondrej/php
[19:27] <quasi6> tomreyn: could you clarify the command I need to run once I move the directory to my home folder?
[19:27] <nacc> tomreyn: thanks :)
[19:28] <tomreyn> :)
[19:28] <Dom___> and i'm kinda suffering since 2 days now since it drives me crazy :(
[19:28] <OerHeks> Dom___, for php7, just upgrade to 16.04, natively supported.
[19:28] <OerHeks> don't rely on ppa's
[19:28] <nacc> Dom___: PPAs aren't supported here, unfortunately. Yes, ondrej's PPA does allow you to use PHP5 and PHP7 at the same time, but how to configure nginx for that is out of scope for this channel
[19:28] <nacc> Dom___: as OerHeks says, if you want to migrate to PHP 7, in a supported fashion, upgrade releases
[19:28] <tomreyn> quasi6: ~/FileZilla3/bin/filezilla
[19:29] <stan_man_can> Well, I'm super disappointed at how bad the bluetooth support is on linux right now
[19:29] <Dom___> upgrade releases means upgrade ubuntu ?
[19:29] <stan_man_can> new headset pairs with everything else no problem
[19:29] <stan_man_can> phones, laptops, other desktop, but no dice in ubuntu
[19:29] <Dom___> and how can i get my mysql back up running? :-O :(
[19:29] <nacc> stan_man_can: bluetooth is unfortunately a bit of voodoo, some of it is hardware/driver stuff that is all done proprietarily by the vendors
[19:30] <nacc> stan_man_can: often you can find out the reason in the logs, for the failure to pair
[19:30] <tomreyn> Dom___: find out why it's not running (I assume that's the case based on what you just said) and try to fix it so that it runs again.
[19:31] <stan_man_can> nacc, what logs should I check out?
[19:31] <Dom___> the var/log/mysql/error.log is empty
[19:31] <nacc> stan_man_can: i'd check /var/log/syslog, journalctl maybe
[19:31] <stan_man_can> nacc, it pairs, it just doesn't let me use it as a headset
[19:31] <zetheroo1> I have video's shot with a DSLR camera (1080p). The files are pretty large - 1GB = @ 6 min. I would like to transcode them to make them not quite so large but still maintain the quality. Does anyone know of a program that can do that?
[19:31] <Dom___> tomreyn: it shows only "was shut down properly" but no really error
[19:31] <nacc> stan_man_can: one sec, i did have to do something here for bluetooth audio
[19:31] <stan_man_can> Ubuntu says its pairing successfully but the headset isn't giving me the audible "Pairing Successful" like all other devices it connects to
[19:31] <nacc> stan_man_can: let me see if i can find it
[19:31] <stan_man_can> kk
[19:32] <tomreyn> Dom___: then just start it?
[19:33] <nacc> stan_man_can: iirc, i had to make the changes in c#2 at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=197482 to get it to work
[19:33] <Dom___> tomreyn: ^^ i tried ... start: Job failed to start    (which gives one hundret different solutions online but no clue which is fitting)
[19:33] <OerHeks> stan_man_can, are you sure this is not just an A2DP setting? http://askubuntu.com/questions/775523/after-updating-to-16-04-bluetooth-audio-a2dp-mode-stopped-working
[19:33] <Dom___> tomreyn: so you have no idea where to check
[19:33] <nacc> Dom___: look at the logs and see why it failed to start
[19:33] <nacc> OerHeks: yep, that's my guess ( stan_man_can the link i provided is how you get the correct mode working, iirc)
[19:33] <digitacion-01_> hola
[19:34] <digitacion-01_> :v
[19:34] <tomreyn> Dom___: check the log files. mysql server log files can be located in different directories. unless configured in /etc/mysql/my.cnf or /etc/my.cnf the log files are likely at one of these locations: /var/log/mysql* /var/log/mysql/* /var/lib/mysql/
[19:34] <ioria> LissajousPattern, add some extensions or add-ons ?
[19:34] <Dom___> nacc: which logs? because the mysql errorlog is empty
[19:34] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, I saw that but I don't have an audio.conf in that directory
[19:34] <nacc> Dom___: journaltcl should say why it failed to start
[19:34] <digitacion-04> HOLA :V MANITO
[19:34] <nacc> Dom___: or try to run mysql manually
[19:34] <LissajousPattern> not that i know of unless one was added during apt-get update/upgrade
[19:34] <digitacion-01_> :V mano en que estas :v
[19:34] <nacc> digitacion-04: this is not a chat channel
[19:34] <tomreyn> nacc: ubuntu 14.04
[19:34] <stan_man_can> nacc, i'll take a look at that thread
[19:35] <nacc> tomreyn: oh right :/
[19:35] <digitacion-04> QUE PEDO
[19:35] <nacc> tomreyn: syslog maybe ?
[19:35] <ioria> LissajousPattern, have you tried to purge it (sudo apt-get purge firefox) and reinstall ?
[19:35] <LissajousPattern> ioria, i have not been able to get either firefox or chromium to work after update/upgrade.
[19:35] <LissajousPattern> yes
[19:35] <quasi6> tomreyn: when I execute, nothing happens
[19:35] <tomreyn> nacc: syslog or damon.log
[19:35] <nacc> tomreyn: ack
[19:35] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, is the absence of /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf a concern? Running 16 .04
[19:35] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  fresh install or upgrade ?
[19:36] <LissajousPattern> fresh install on both lubuntu and xubuntu
[19:36] <tomreyn> Dom___: also check /var/log/syslog and / or /var/log/daemon.log for lines about mysql
[19:36] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  16.04 or 16.10 ?
[19:36] <nacc> stan_man_can: i have no such file either
[19:36] <LissajousPattern> both
[19:36] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  now, i mean
[19:36] <LissajousPattern> xubuntu 16.04 and lubuntu 16.10
[19:36] <nacc> stan_man_can: if i had to guess, i think it's a pulse issue, more than anything else
[19:36] <LissajousPattern> right now xubuntu 16.04
[19:37] <nacc> stan_man_can: although if your headset is not reporting it's paired (even if ubuntu is), that's odd
[19:37] <tomreyn> quasi6: try it from a temrinal window then. start a terminal, then type: cd ~/FileZilla3/bin/; -/filezilla
[19:37] <tomreyn> quasi6: and press enter
[19:37] <LissajousPattern> ioria, firefox was working fine about a week ago or so
[19:37] <Dom___> tomreyn: syslog and log daemon is empty
[19:37] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  i see uname -r ?
[19:38] <Dom___> nacc: journaltclt ? meaning what? working how?
[19:38] <tomreyn> Dom___: like, there are no lines in there at all?
[19:38] <LissajousPattern> 4.4.0-57-generic
[19:38] <nacc> Dom___: nm, on journalctl that's not present in 14.04
[19:38] <stan_man_can> nacc, yeah and ubuntu says its paired but doesn't list it as a headset
[19:38] <Dom___> mysql config says log is in /var/log/mysql/error.log <-- which is empty
[19:38] <tomreyn> Dom___: journalctl is a command which only exists since ubuntu 15.10 onwards, not on ubuntu 14.04
[19:38] <OerHeks> nacc, odd, this page states that the conf is removed years ago .. i love online info (not)
[19:39] <nacc> OerHeks: :)
[19:39] <OerHeks> stan_man_can ^ ^ https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/174
[19:39]  * tomreyn got to go
[19:39] <Dom___> tomreyn: no lines at all
[19:39] <nacc> Dom___: just try running the mysql server in the foreground, see why, if it fails to start
[19:40] <tomreyn> Dom___: so your logging daemon does not work properly, was uninstalled, or uses a non-standard configuration.
[19:40] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  can you try the Guest Account ?
[19:40] <LissajousPattern> sure
[19:40] <quasi6> tomreyn: no such file in directory, which I don't understand since I have the pathway correct
[19:40] <Dom___> nacc: how do i run it in the foreground with the commandline?
[19:41] <tomreyn> Dom___: you should definitely fix the logging, too (maybe later on). its very important to be able to diagnose problems on any server.
[19:41] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, Kinda confused about whats going on in that thread
[19:41] <LissajousPattern> still fails to open
[19:41] <stan_man_can> still can't tell if audio.conf should or should not be there
[19:41] <tomreyn> quasi6: whats the name of the directory you moved into your home directory?
[19:41] <Dom___> tomreyn: i know it is ... ^^ i would love to fix it knowing how to
[19:41] <LissajousPattern> ioria, it just brings up mozilla crash reporter
[19:41] <nacc> Dom___: `mysqld_safe --log-error=/var/log/mysql.err`, maybe
[19:42] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  start it in terminal
[19:42] <tomreyn> quasi6: sorry really gotta go now
[19:42] <quasi6> /home/user/.FileZilla3/bine
[19:42] <quasi6> *bin
[19:42] <quasi6> That's fine, thank you for your help though
[19:42] <LissajousPattern> same thing crash
[19:42] <Dom___> nacc: nope not working
[19:42] <nacc> Dom___: what does it say?
[19:43] <Dom___> command not found and unknown variable
[19:43] <LissajousPattern> ioria, ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 1609
[19:43] <nacc> Dom___: i'm sort of assuming if you're running a mysql server, you know how to run mysql from the command line
[19:43] <ioria> LissajousPattern, yes a bug ... i guess https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1594953
[19:43] <nacc> Dom___: let me spin up a trusty instance, but really, you should know this if you want to run these services ...
[19:43] <ioria> LissajousPattern, but not your case
[19:44] <Dom___> nacc: awesome thanks
[19:44] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, Not sure if this is relevant https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/611
[19:45] <ioria> LissajousPattern, ok, let's try to remove from your home folder all the mozilla/firefox directories
[19:46] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  ~/.mozilla   ; ~/.cache/mozilla
[19:46] <LissajousPattern> yes done
[19:47] <nacc> Dom___: in 14.04, running 'mysqld_safe' works corrctly
[19:47] <ioria> LissajousPattern,    sudo apt-get purge firefox
[19:47] <nacc> Dom___: at this point, i have no idea what you're running that would produce different results
[19:47] <LissajousPattern> i cant under guest account
[19:48] <ioria> LissajousPattern,    ho, still there ?
[19:48] <LissajousPattern> yeah
[19:48] <Dom___> it's ubuntu for raspi .... sometimes it says "llubuntu" ?! not sure if there is a difference?
[19:48] <ioria> LissajousPattern,    please, login your user
[19:48] <LissajousPattern> ok
[19:49] <ioria> LissajousPattern, remove  ~/.mozilla      ~/.cache/mozilla and  apt-get purge firefox
[19:49] <nacc> Dom___: iirc, 14.04's raspi was unofficial
[19:49] <nacc> Dom___: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[19:49] <LissajousPattern> ok
[19:50] <LissajousPattern> ioria, done
[19:50] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, nacc the whole thing is messed up. Say I'm paired with my laptop and phone. If I pair with Ubuntu, Ubuntu says pairing complete but it doesn't complete on my headset side. So I hit cancel. when I do that, it unpairs with all my other devices
[19:50] <xangua> I just set up some cheap BT headphones with no issues
[19:50] <stan_man_can> It then also says PXC 550 Connection: Off, Pair:Yes Type: All Types
[19:50] <Dom___> nacc: okay so it is somehow different than the one everybody is talking about here?! didn't know that
[19:51] <stan_man_can> xangua, is your bluetooth adapter built into your computer or is it an dongle?
[19:51] <xangua> stan_man_can: built in
[19:51] <stan_man_can> I'm wondering if the issue is my dongle
[19:51] <OerHeks> stan_man_can, .. you try to connect with other active devices you paired before, around??
[19:51] <nacc> stan_man_can: could be the dongle, could be some bit of the process that's specific to it that linux isn't doing
[19:51]  * OerHeks facepalms
[19:51] <xangua> I have a dongle but haven't used it since 2010
[19:52] <stan_man_can> Unfortunately my shitty motherboard doesn't have bluetooth
[19:52] <nacc> Dom___: it feels different -- also using PPAs makes it difficult (impossible) to support here
[19:52] <ioria> LissajousPattern, apt-get install firefox
[19:52] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, I have to re-pair with all my other devices after it tries to pair with ubuntu
[19:52] <Dom___> nacc: ok is there a channel i can go to on irc?
[19:52] <LissajousPattern> ioria, yeah i was about to ask if leaving it uninstalled was the solution...hahaha
[19:53] <Dom___> nacc: thanks for trying to help me :) very nice of you
[19:53] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, I'm confused at your question
[19:53] <ioria> LissajousPattern, right :þ
[19:53] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, but the headset can succesfully be paired and connected to multiple devices at the same time
[19:53] <nacc> Dom___: unfortunately i really don't know
[19:53] <LissajousPattern> ioria, thanks for the help by the way
[19:53] <ioria> LissajousPattern, no prob looks like an ugly bug
[19:53] <LissajousPattern> yeah
[19:53] <nacc> stan_man_can: that's surprising, is that a change in bt? because none of my devices can do that :)
[19:53] <LissajousPattern> so just try to open it as always?
[19:54] <ioria> LissajousPattern, from gui, first
[19:54] <OerHeks> stan_man_can, now i am stunned, never seen nor tried that before ..
[19:54] <stan_man_can> Not sure, I'm new to the bluetooth world
[19:54] <ioria> LissajousPattern, yes
[19:54] <stan_man_can> However, the heaset lets me pair up to 8 devices
[19:54] <LissajousPattern> ioria, no go still fails
[19:54] <ioria> LissajousPattern, from terminal ?
[19:54] <nacc> stan_man_can: ok, so i'd try with no devices paired and just getting ubuntu to work, first :)
[19:54] <stan_man_can> It will say "Device 1 connected. Device 2 connected."
[19:55] <stan_man_can> nacc, yeah have tried
[19:55] <nacc> stan_man_can: that sounds like possibly a 'new' mode for bt, which maybe linux doesn't support? i genuinely don't know
[19:55] <LissajousPattern> ioria, same as before
[19:55] <LissajousPattern> fail
[19:55] <stan_man_can> let me try to clear the paire list and try again
[19:55] <nacc> stan_man_can: have you tried (i hate to say this) googling for people using your headset or bt adapter with ubuntu?
[19:55] <stan_man_can> nacc, yeah I've tried both
[19:55] <stan_man_can> it's a premium headset though so not a lot out there
[19:55] <ioria> LissajousPattern, you are on xubuntu 16.04 right now ?
[19:55] <nacc> stan_man_can: ok, was just a shot in the dark, i don't like suggesting that normally
[19:55] <LissajousPattern> yes
[19:55] <stan_man_can> i don't blame you no worries
[19:56] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  sudo apt full-upgrade   what it says ?
[19:56] <nacc> stan_man_can: you're on 16.04, right?
[19:57] <stan_man_can> nacc, yes
[19:57] <stan_man_can> One really frustrating thing is that a) even when the headset is pairing my desktop can't always find it
[19:57] <nacc> stan_man_can: how are you checking for the desktop finding it? bluetooth settings?
[19:57] <LissajousPattern> ioria, 0 upgraded, 0 newly, 0 to remove 0 not upgraded
[19:57] <stan_man_can> and b) for a brief minute last night it appeared to be setup right, blueman said it was an audio device and everything.
[19:57] <stan_man_can> nacc, I've tried in bluetooth settings and blueman
[19:58] <nacc> stan_man_can: ok, i don't use blueman at all
[19:58] <nacc> stan_man_can: fwiw :)
[19:58] <nacc> stan_man_can: bluetoothd is what is running here
[19:58] <stan_man_can> nacc, alright well using bluetooth settings right now
[19:58] <nacc> stan_man_can: from the 'bluez' package
[19:59] <void__> exit
[19:59] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  cat ~/.xsession-errors    ?
[19:59] <stan_man_can> nacc, not sure if it makes a difference but if i try to run bluetoothd from terminal I get D-Bus setup failed: Connection ":1.164" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file
[20:00] <nacc> stan_man_can: hrm, mine is running in the bg already , is there one already running?
[20:00] <nacc> stan_man_can: also may need sudo
[20:01] <LissajousPattern> ioria, no file or directory
[20:01] <stan_man_can> nacc, ah with sudo it's Name already in use so ig uess it's running
[20:01] <stan_man_can> nacc, yeah ps aux shows  /usr/lib/bluetooth/bluetoothd
[20:02] <nacc> stan_man_can: ok
[20:02] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   are you on a low specs pc ?
[20:02] <LissajousPattern> yeah
[20:02] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   kind ?
[20:02] <LissajousPattern> but it literally was working last week
[20:02] <stan_man_can> nacc, ahhhhhhhh FML
[20:02] <stan_man_can> Device Search is showing PXC 550 as a headset right now
[20:02] <stan_man_can> but pairing fails
[20:02] <LissajousPattern> sempron 2800+ 1.5GB ram
[20:02] <stan_man_can> :'(
[20:03] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   1) your specs 2) try to boot the previous kernel from Grub menu
[20:03] <ioria> ok, sy
[20:03] <stan_man_can> nacc, okay so it  paid with it as a headset but my headset is still in pairing mode so somethings wacky
[20:03] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   try to boot the previous kernel from Grub menu
[20:04] <LissajousPattern> sure i will try
[20:04] <LissajousPattern> hold shift right?
[20:04] <ioria> yep
[20:04] <stan_man_can> nacc, also, it's still not listed in sound as an output device
[20:04] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   if you have problems we can edit /etc/default/grub to make it show up
[20:04] <nacc> stan_man_can: ok, just fyi, i just paired my bt headset :/
[20:04] <nacc> stan_man_can: on 16.10, admittedly
[20:04] <nacc> stan_man_can: i connected, it wasn't playing audio
[20:04] <stan_man_can> nacc, build in bluetooth, or a dongle?
[20:04] <LissajousPattern> ioria, this would be the second time a kernel upgrade has caused my legacy hardware to break
[20:05] <nacc> stan_man_can: so i went settings -> bluetooth -> devices -> clicked on the device. turned connection off and on and i got the "bloop" on the headset of it connecting
[20:05] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   yep, but the poit is that you are on a fresh install :þ
[20:05] <nacc> stan_man_can: it said "paired" the whole time, though
[20:05] <ioria> *point
[20:05] <georges> french
[20:05] <nacc> stan_man_can: this is builtin, but just wanted to see if you can do the same
[20:05] <nacc> stan_man_can: as also in my case, until i did taht, it wasn't listed in sound (pulse)
[20:05] <LissajousPattern> ioria, sure
[20:06] <LissajousPattern> ioria, i could not get into grub for some reason
[20:06] <stan_man_can> nacc, so while my headset was in pairing mode it said Connection ON but as soon as i canceled the pairing mode on my headset (because it didn't complete on it's own) it went to Pairing OFF
[20:06] <stan_man_can> er,
[20:06] <stan_man_can> Paired: Yes
[20:06] <stan_man_can> but Connection is Off and i can't turn it on
[20:06] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   ok, boot your install and sudo nono /etc/default/grub
[20:07] <nacc> stan_man_can: right, in my case it said "connection: yes", "paired: yes", but pulse didn't show audio and i couldn't hear anything. So I turned it off and on and it worked ...
[20:07] <nacc> stan_man_can: so let's see
[20:07] <ah_> nick DrDOM_mad
[20:07] <nacc> stan_man_can: so the lack of pairing seems pretty fundamental
[20:07] <codepoetn> Hey, is it right to ask mozilla firefox related problems in here or is there separate grooups for that?
[20:07] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   *nano
[20:07] <LissajousPattern> well i got into grub but my arrow keys will not let me do anything
[20:07] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   advanced options ?
[20:07] <nacc> codepoetn: general firefox questions? probably there is a better channel, this is the ubuntu support channel
[20:08] <codepoetn> Yeah, i know this is ubuntu support channel, but firefox came preinstalled in ubuntu 16.04
[20:08] <stan_man_can> nacc, I'm thinking it's the bluetooth adapter
[20:08] <codepoetn> so i thought maybe :|
[20:08] <stan_man_can> unfortunately i don't know any other solutions
[20:08] <nacc> codepoetn: well, what's your question, we can tell you if you are ontopic
[20:09] <LissajousPattern> ioria, it must be something with the wireless keyboard
[20:09] <LissajousPattern> i can get into grub but cannot use the arrow keys once in grub
[20:09] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   i see ... boot it we edit /etc/default/grub
[20:09] <LissajousPattern> sure thing
[20:09] <nacc> stan_man_can: it might be -- does the same adapter work from other systems?
[20:09] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   not sure it solves
[20:10] <codepoetn> I'm unable to activate my camera for webcam video chat/conferencing on any of the sites while browsing through mozilla, but i find that functioning properly while on chrome browser
[20:10] <Sweepyoface> so use chrome
[20:11] <LissajousPattern> ioria, at this point i will darn near try anything. you could tell me to take the thing outside and set it ablaze and i would, at the very least consider it.
[20:11] <stan_man_can> nacc, not even sure how to test to be honest, every other device has built in bluetooth :(
[20:11] <nacc> stan_man_can: well, if this is a bluetooth adapter, you should be able to plug it into another computer (if you have one) and see if it you can use it there
[20:11] <nacc> stan_man_can: otherwise, i really don't know
[20:12] <xangua> codepoetn: define "any of the sites", does this sites rely on flash player?
[20:12] <nacc> xangua: if my tab complete is correct, they have left?
[20:12] <LissajousPattern> ioria, so what do i need to change in the config file?
[20:12] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   sudo nano /etc/default/grub   and comment the line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 with a #  then run sudo update-grub
[20:12] <stan_man_can> nacc, but how can i make the other devices use the bluetooth adapter instead of the built in bluetooth?
[20:12] <facelessVoid> testestest
[20:12] <LissajousPattern> ok
[20:13] <nacc> stan_man_can: well, i mean in a given computer, you can disable certain hw (presumably there is akillswtich or soft switch for the mobo-integrated one), or you can do it from windows device manager, etc
[20:13] <LissajousPattern> ioria, ok so rebbot?
[20:13] <LissajousPattern> reboot
[20:13] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   yes ... but if it's a fresh install you don't have another kernel available
[20:14] <skweek> anybody know about why linux-firmware-nonfree doesn't exist in the ubuntu 16.04 xenial multiverse repo?
[20:14] <nicomachus> !info linux-firmware-nonfree xenial
[20:14] <LissajousPattern> ioria, it said i have 4.4.0.21
[20:14] <nicomachus> !info linux-firmware-nonfree trusty
[20:14] <Dom___> does php7 add some different connection to mysql? compared to php5.6 which could cause my error
[20:14] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   really ? ... boot it
[20:14] <LissajousPattern> as well as 4.4.0.57
[20:14] <LissajousPattern> ioria, will it boot it automatically
[20:15] <nacc> Dom___: yes, there is a different driver, iirc
[20:15] <nicomachus> skweek: good question. one sec.
[20:15] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   you have to select it
[20:15] <LissajousPattern> now that that line has been commented out
[20:15] <LissajousPattern> ioria, i cant use my keyboard in grub or i would have
[20:15] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   no, that just makes your Grun menu shows
[20:15] <Dom___> nacc: do i have to tell mysql somewhere to use php7 instead or install some php-mysql packet
[20:15] <LissajousPattern> oh
[20:15] <nicomachus> skweek: what exactly do you need from it?
[20:15] <LissajousPattern> let me try it again
[20:16] <nacc> Dom___: i don't know
[20:16] <nacc> skweek: nicomachus: "requested by ~timg-tpi; "beyond questionable" provenance and licensing; LP: #1513589"
[20:16] <skweek> specifically bluetooth ie. this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/860726/s530-bluetooth-earpiece-detected-as-keyboard
[20:16] <LissajousPattern> ioria, so how do i default to the other kernel through the config file?
[20:17] <nicomachus> skweek: there's a .deb file for it.
[20:17] <skweek> but most of my device drivers don't work on my laptop... https://www.engadget.com/2015/09/02/lenovo-miix-700/
[20:17] <LissajousPattern> i cannot do anything in grub for some reason my wireless keyboard haes me when i am in grub
[20:17] <nicomachus> nacc: be nice if they explained what was so "beyond questionable" about it.
[20:17] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   yes, you can ... but i don't remember exactly how
[20:17] <nacc> nicomachus: licensing
[20:17] <nacc> nicomachus: as said, in the comment
[20:18] <nicomachus> nacc: right. but what about the licensing.
[20:18] <nicomachus> skweek: here's a link to the deb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/linux-firmware-nonfree/1.16
[20:18] <skweek> nico7t[m]: nacc I wouldn't mind using the .deb file for it... except for that I was hoping I could bring it up for a 1.17 v being added to the repo
[20:18] <nicomachus> skweek: keep in mind, you are ON YOUR OWN installing that deb.
[20:18] <nacc> nicomachus: probably that it's not clear where the firmware files came from and what the original licenses actually are...
[20:19] <stan_man_can> nacc, tried another bluetooth dongle and no dice
[20:19] <skweek> there are concerns about using it, i've read some bug reports about using it... nicomachus nacc
[20:19] <nicomachus> nacc: guess so.
[20:19] <stan_man_can> trying to find if any  have exceptional linux support but hard to find anything
[20:19] <nicomachus> skweek: yea, it may be worth finding those drivers somewhere else instead of bundled into the firmware-nonfree package.
[20:20] <skweek> I appreciate your input guys
[20:20] <stan_man_can> nacc, maybe i'll upgrade to 16.10
[20:20] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   can you paste ls /boot ?
[20:20] <nacc> stan_man_can: you could try from a live usb
[20:20] <nicomachus> !info linux-firmware-nonfree yakkety
[20:23] <LissajousPattern> ioria, honestly i just wanna paste my face to the wall right now i have about had it with this issue
[20:24] <LissajousPattern> can i just delete the kernel that i think is being the trouble?
[20:24] <LissajousPattern> at that point would it just default boot to the old one?
[20:24] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   sure, we can try   .. but about the keyboard issue, try to set in BIOS  usb legacy option to yes
[20:25] <LissajousPattern> it is i think but i will check just for grins
[20:26] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   if you paste ls /boot we can see what options you have
[20:27] <LissajousPattern> yeah i think this thing is by default legacy
[20:28] <ioria> LissajousPattern,   what kernels do you see in /boot folder ?
[20:29] <LissajousPattern> abi-4.4.0.21-generic and abi-4.4.0.57-generic
[20:30] <LissajousPattern> -21 -57 my bad
[20:31] <LissajousPattern> not decimal
[20:31] <LissajousPattern> geez my brain is melting
[20:31] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  dpkg -l linux-image-4.4.0-21-generic
[20:31] <nicomachus> get some coffee
[20:31]  * genii gets some coffee
[20:32] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  we need to be sure is installed , if we want to remove  57
[20:33] <LissajousPattern> Reinst-required
[20:33] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  you can paste the output ?
[20:33] <LissajousPattern> no
[20:34] <nicomachus> why not?
[20:34] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  are you chatting from anothe pc ?
[20:34] <LissajousPattern> yes
[20:34] <nicomachus> use pastebinit and then just type the link here
[20:34] <LissajousPattern> broser does not work
[20:35] <LissajousPattern> browser
[20:35] <nicomachus> browser or internet connection?
[20:35] <LissajousPattern> browser
[20:35] <nicomachus> !pastebinit | use this
[20:36] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  you don't need a browser to paste
[20:36] <LissajousPattern> oh
[20:36] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  dpkg -l linux-image-4.4.0-21-generic | |nc termbin.com 9999
[20:36] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  dpkg -l linux-image-4.4.0-21-generic | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:36] <nicomachus> yea termbin will work.
[20:37] <Antares_> https://vk.com/skylitedc
[20:37] <nicomachus> !ot > Antares_
[20:37] <nicomachus> !guidelines > Antares_
[20:37] <Antares_> я русский
[20:38] <Antares_> удеръстенд
[20:38] <LissajousPattern> http://termbin.com/ge97
[20:38] <nicomachus> !ru | Antares_
[20:38] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  ok, is installed   ... so we remove 57 and see what happens ?
[20:38] <LissajousPattern> ok
[20:39] <LissajousPattern> idk how.
[20:39] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  sudo apt-get purge  linux-image-4.4.0-57-generic
[20:40] <LissajousPattern> and then reboot?
[20:40] <amirhossein> hi
[20:40] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  hopefully
[20:40] <LissajousPattern> yes hopefully
[20:40] <LissajousPattern> ioria, thanks again
[20:41] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  np ... do you remember whick kernel are you running when ff issue happened ?
[20:41] <LissajousPattern> i almost got banned earlier for not knowing how to pastebin earlier
[20:42] <nicomachus> ha, I doubt anyone would have banned you for that.
[20:42] <ioria> :þ
[20:42] <nicomachus> ioria could reverse it anyway
[20:42] <LissajousPattern> ioria, no i forget but it was the default that was on the live usb
[20:42] <glitchd> ok im a little confused over here...im trying to set a background image for grub. i have the picture in the /boot/grub folder. i have tried jpg,png,tga formats. all scaled to 1024x1280 as per the instruction from the ubuntu forums post i read. and nothing seems to work with getting the image to show in grub. any help would be appreciated.
[20:42] <LissajousPattern> the live lubuntu 16.10
[20:42] <ioria> nicomachus, meaning ?
[20:42] <LissajousPattern> so it booted
[20:42] <nicomachus> aren't you op?
[20:43] <LissajousPattern> do i need to reinstall firefox or should i try as is?
[20:43] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  let's try
[20:43] <LissajousPattern> sure
[20:43] <ioria> nicomachus, me ? nope
[20:43] <LissajousPattern> no go
[20:43] <nicomachus> oh.
[20:43] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  oh my
[20:43] <joci> glitchd: which OS0 you have ?
[20:44] <joci> *OS
[20:44] <LissajousPattern> should i try to delete the firefox files in home again and purge?
[20:44] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  uname -r
[20:44] <LissajousPattern> i am on -21
[20:44] <glitchd> joci, ubuntu 16.04 x64 xubuntu-desktop
[20:44] <LissajousPattern> so that worked
[20:44] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:45] <LissajousPattern> yeah i am as well as deleting the folders from home
[20:45] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  ok
[20:45] <nicomachus> if you use apt purge --remove firefox it should remove those folders from home
[20:46] <nicomachus> i think.
[20:46] <joci> glitchd: if i understood ur question right then ur issue might be that you are useing space in teh path
[20:46] <ioria> nicomachus,  not sure that in .config tho
[20:46] <LissajousPattern> a little redundancy does not hurt i guess
[20:47] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  after that we try midori :þ
[20:47] <LissajousPattern> or arch
[20:47] <glitchd> joci, space in path? there is no space in the name of the file im talking about..?
[20:47] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  midori is a bowser
[20:47] <LissajousPattern> oh
[20:47] <LissajousPattern> yeah thats right duh
[20:47] <tomreyn> Dom___: were you able to sort it out then?
[20:47] <LissajousPattern> still crashed
[20:47] <joci> glitchd: srry forgot this
[20:48] <LissajousPattern> i will install midori
[20:48] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  i don't get it
[20:48] <xangua> I think Midori was based on Mozilla once
[20:48] <LissajousPattern> i dont either
[20:48] <glitchd> joci, umm..ok? lol thx anyways
[20:48] <xangua> Was it?
[20:48] <LissajousPattern> ioria, i have tried almost everything
[20:48] <joci> glitchd:what is the real issu?
[20:48] <ioria> LissajousPattern,  i see time for a bug report
[20:48] <LissajousPattern> and like i said it was working just a week or so ago
[20:48] <glitchd> joci, exactly what i said it was.
[20:49] <LissajousPattern> i have never filed a bug report
[20:49] <Dom___> tomreyn: mh kinda ... i figured that the connection between mysql and php was somehow missing
[20:49] <ioria> LissajousPattern, on what exactly ?
[20:49] <glitchd> joci, background image not showing in grub menu
[20:49] <ioria> LissajousPattern, and i'd try it from livecd
[20:49] <Dom___> and that i might have installed mariadb .... which kicked off mysql ... so not sure what the problem was maybe even last
[20:49] <LissajousPattern> midori crashed as well
[20:49] <tomreyn> Dom___: okay, good. is this a production service you run there, or just a test environment?
[20:49] <joci> glitchd: one sec
[20:49] <ioria> LissajousPattern, video card ?
[20:50] <Dom___> productive ...
[20:50] <glitchd> joci, no worries
[20:50] <LissajousPattern> its an old nvidia card
[20:50] <LissajousPattern> really old idk which one
[20:50] <Dom___> but i think i will have to get a virtual mashine with a doublicate system
[20:50] <tomreyn> Dom___: oh then please do yourself and the internet as a whole a favor and train your system administration skills more.
[20:50] <tomreyn> that's not to insult you, hope it doesn't come over as this.
[20:51] <ioria> LissajousPattern, lspci | grep VGA
[20:51] <Dom___> well a private "running system" so nothing critical on it ;)
[20:51] <tomreyn> oh ok
[20:51] <Dom___> the only one suffering from my mistakes is myself ... ;)
[20:51] <LissajousPattern> NV34 geforce FX 5200
[20:52] <LissajousPattern> rev a1
[20:52] <tomreyn> there are just too many badly maintained internet servers out there which put the entire hting at risk.
[20:52] <Dom___> can i dubicate a raspi on a oracle-VM programm?
[20:52] <ioria> LissajousPattern, can you boot the livecd ?
[20:52] <LissajousPattern> midori crashed with SIGILL in call_init()
[20:52] <LissajousPattern> ioria, yeah
[20:52] <LissajousPattern> no problem
[20:52] <ioria> LissajousPattern  do it for us, please
[20:53] <LissajousPattern> sure
[20:53] <tomreyn> Dom___: most likely, but it's not trivial
[20:53] <LissajousPattern> i have xubuntu 16.04 ready to go
[20:53] <ioria> LissajousPattern  try xubuntu and fire firefox
[20:53] <LissajousPattern> sure
[20:53] <joci> glitchd: i dont know :/
[20:54] <glitchd> joci, well thanks anyways=)
[20:55] <LissajousPattern> i feel like a beta tester
[20:55] <Dolmen0> why?
[20:56] <ioria> LissajousPattern  2800amd and 1.5 g should be fine
[20:56] <LissajousPattern> it was before
[20:56] <LissajousPattern> like i said i used lubuntu on this thing for a while
[20:57] <ioria> LissajousPattern  and ? same isssue ?
[20:57] <LissajousPattern> then i went to upgrade by doing a fresh install and bam
[20:57] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: the feeling should be rewarding, you're contributing to open source :)
[20:57] <Dom___> tomreyn: thanks for your help also
[20:57] <LissajousPattern> blackflow, funny you say that
[20:58] <blackflow> lol, why funny?
[20:58] <LissajousPattern> ioria, so firefox works off the live usb
[20:58] <LissajousPattern> blackflow, because weren't you one of the ones who thought i was trolling earlier
[20:58] <LissajousPattern> or was it ben
[20:59] <ioria> LissajousPattern  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3 | grep driver
[20:59] <LissajousPattern> anyway i did not get how to pastebin without a browser sue me
[20:59] <LissajousPattern> ioria, ok
[20:59] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: no, I said it looked like, since you refused to pastebin the output with a simple command I gave you, taht didn't require a browser
[20:59] <blackflow> LissajousPattern: I gave you the actual command :)  "firefox 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:59] <LissajousPattern> i didn't understand
[20:59] <LissajousPattern> sorry
[21:00] <ioria> LissajousPattern  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3 | grep driver
[21:00] <LissajousPattern> ioria, driver is nouveau as to be expected
[21:01] <ioria> LissajousPattern  so it's working ?
[21:01] <LissajousPattern> which is what it was with the normal install i believe
[21:01] <LissajousPattern> yeah
[21:01] <LissajousPattern> firefox works from live usb
[21:01] <ioria> LissajousPattern  uname -r ?
[21:01] <Dom___> tomreyn: how can i see the /var/run path of my php version?
[21:01] <LissajousPattern> 4.4.0-21-generic
[21:01] <ikonia> Dom___: in the php config
[21:02] <ioria> LissajousPattern i can only suggest 'Erase Disk and reinstall Xubuntu'
[21:02] <ioria> LissajousPattern  without 'updates selected'
[21:02] <LissajousPattern> ioria, thats fine and it will probably work up until the point of apt update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[21:03] <LissajousPattern> i dont know which updates to omit?
[21:03] <LissajousPattern> or even how to
[21:03] <ioria> LissajousPattern  maybe the bug will be fixed (if really a bug)
[21:03] <LissajousPattern> i have no idea
[21:04] <LissajousPattern> i have already been through three installs
[21:04] <ioria> LissajousPattern  i suggest also an iso check
[21:04] <ioria> LissajousPattern  how did you do the stick ?
[21:04] <LissajousPattern> i checked sha1
[21:04] <LissajousPattern> dd
[21:04] <ioria> oh... all good then
[21:04] <LissajousPattern> yeah
[21:04] <LissajousPattern> i would think
[21:05] <LissajousPattern> like i said it is after i do update/upgrade
[21:05] <LissajousPattern> after that broken
[21:05] <LissajousPattern> before that firefox works just like off of the USB
[21:05] <ioria> LissajousPattern  what ff run on livecd ?
[21:05] <ioria> *s
[21:06] <ioria> LissajousPattern  49 ?
[21:06] <LissajousPattern> idk
[21:06] <ioria> LissajousPattern  Help -> About FF
[21:06] <Guest37086> didnt knew that :p
[21:07] <LissajousPattern> ioria, what?
[21:07] <LissajousPattern> where is that?
[21:07] <ioria> LissajousPattern  to check ff ver ... go ( in ff menu) Help -> About FF
[21:08] <LissajousPattern> what menu?
[21:08] <ioria> LissajousPattern   the firefox menu bar
[21:08] <LissajousPattern> it does not have it
[21:08] <LissajousPattern> just the little arrow in the top left
[21:10] <ioria> LissajousPattern   apt-cache policy firefox| grep Installed| awk '{print $2}'
[21:10] <Guest37086> any advice to some good channel names??
[21:11] <nicomachus> !alis | Guest37086
[21:11] <LissajousPattern> yeah its 45.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1
[21:12] <ioria> LissajousPattern   45 ?
[21:12] <LissajousPattern> yes
[21:12] <LissajousPattern> off of the live usb
[21:12] <LissajousPattern> and installed it jumps to 50
[21:12] <ioria> LissajousPattern   when did you download the iso ?
[21:12] <LissajousPattern> well after updating
[21:12] <LissajousPattern> today
[21:13] <LissajousPattern> literally this morning
[21:14] <ioria> LissajousPattern   ok, no other ideas then ... try a new 'fresh' install
[21:14] <prtg02> hi all :)
[21:14] <LissajousPattern> from here http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/
[21:14] <Guest37086> hey
[21:15] <LissajousPattern> ioria, well thanks for your time
[21:15] <ioria> LissajousPattern   try the official repo
[21:15] <LissajousPattern> this has been one big hassle to say the least
[21:15] <ioria> LissajousPattern   you're welcome
[21:15] <prtg02> yesterday I updated my ubuntu install, after the install was complete I let it sit for some time. after 30 minutes there was a power loss
[21:15] <LissajousPattern> ioria, where is that
[21:16] <prtg02> today I started it again and it was all a little fucked up
[21:16] <nicomachus> !language | prtg02
[21:16] <ioria> LissajousPattern   http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/
[21:17] <LissajousPattern> cool thanks again
[21:17] <ioria> LissajousPattern   let us know, please
[21:17] <ioria> LissajousPattern   np
[21:17] <prtg02> during the startup I got in a little weird login screen and after I typed my password I got sended back to the login screen again
[21:17] <LissajousPattern> yeah i will be back after i do an install from one of the ones from the official repo
[21:18] <prtg02> restarted in recovery did "autoremove" with apt and got the error log of the login: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23674986/
[21:18] <LissajousPattern> it may be a little while i am going to take a break for a minute but it should be within the hour or so
[21:18] <prtg02> I looked at the "dbus" trying restarting and stuff but did not work, any idea how to solve it?
[21:20] <Dom___> pid = /run/php/php7.0-fpm.pid
[21:20] <Dom___> is written in the config but there is nothing in this folder ?!
[21:20] <OerHeks> Dom___, still fighting that PPA?
[21:20] <Dom___> OerHeks: yes :( :D
[21:21] <OerHeks> go with 16.04/native php7 , but you will need to learn systemd stuff too.
[21:22] <vfw> awe... systemd is easy
[21:22] <nicomachus> says you..
[21:22] <Dom___>  connect() to unix:/var/run/php/php7.0-fpm.sock failed (  this is the error log from nginx
[21:23] <vfw> nicomachus: No, really, systemctl enable, disable, start stop
[21:24] <vfw> and status
[21:26] <Dom___> but this file does not exist
[21:26] <bekks> Dom___: Is php listed inn your process list?
[21:26] <OerHeks> units and firewall setup commands https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/systemd-essentials-working-with-services-units-and-the-journal and https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units
[21:27] <blackflow> Dom___: your nginx config should list the path to socket file as defined by the fpm pool it belongs to
[21:27] <blackflow> Dom___: in other words, check the /etc/php7/fpm/php-fpm.conf   (I believe the path is)  file for defaults, or wherever your defined the pool
[21:29] <Dom___> yes but in the given folder (/var/run/php/ there is nothin in this folder)
[21:29] <blackflow> Dom___: so what is the path of the socket, defined by fpm?
[21:30] <Dom___> /run/php/php7.0-fpm.pid
[21:30] <blackflow> Dom___: that's the pidfile, not socket
[21:31] <blackflow> Dom___: something like "listen = /var/run/wherever.sock"
[21:31] <blackflow> Dom___: in the pool config file
[21:32] <Dom___> listen = /run/php/php7.0-fpm.sock
[21:32] <Dom___> listen = 127.0.0.1:9000
[21:32] <blackflow> Dom___: there you go, that first one should be listed in nginx for fastcgi_pass
[21:32] <blackflow> (technically both would work, but unix sockets are a bit faster)
[21:33] <blackflow> Dom___: so,  "fastcgi_pass unix:/run/php/php7.0-fpm.sock"
[21:33] <xxxx> hi: since using dual monitors on lubuntu with ARandR, i'm having the problem of no display ay
[21:34] <blackflow> Dom___: however, the socket file must be readable to the nginx user
[21:34] <xxxx> at all on the laptop, just the hdmi
[21:34] <blackflow> Dom___: so if you don't want to hassle with permissions, use the tcp socket for fastcgi_pass
[21:35] <Dom___> blackflow: what do you mean by use the tcp socket?
[21:35] <wuf1234> Hi, could someone here possibly help me with a strange issue?
[21:35] <bekks> wuf1234: Depends on the issue.
[21:36] <glitchd> wuf1234, indeed..
[21:36] <Dom___> blackflow: and one is called .pid and you're talking about .sock?
[21:36] <wuf1234> my tty was a blank screen, i sorta fixed that by just purging nvidia drivers and setting nomodeset and then reinstalling kernel, but now if I switch to tty it is full of symbols everywhere
[21:36] <wuf1234> like, there are no blank spaces, just copyright symbols (c in circle)
[21:36] <wuf1234> it works, but is... hard to read
[21:37] <Dom___> the nginx error still tells me the file does not exist ... and if i check there online is a file ....pid (no sock)
[21:38] <wuf1234> glitchd bekks, any advice or ideas?
[21:39] <blackflow> Dom___: the 127.0.0.1:9000 is the tcp socket, the /run/php/php7.0-fpm.sock  is the unix socket. either work, but for unix socket you need to set up permissions.
[21:39] <blackflow> Dom___: the pidfile is irrelevant, has nothing to do with connecting nginx to fpm
[21:39] <glitchd> wuf1234, no idea how you did that..or how to fix it
[21:39] <glitchd> wuf1234, sry
[21:40] <Dom___> ok because in the config file of fpm as well as the nginx fastcgi it always is the .sock file/(path)
[21:40] <wuf1234> That's fine. I'll figure something out
[21:40] <ohemdevin> Hello. I don't know if this question is on-topic, but is it generally unadvised to run a pre-release version of Ubuntu to get the latest packages?
[21:40] <wuf1234> Thank you, have a nice day everyone
[21:40] <Dom___> but in the folder there only is a .pid file existing nothing else ... why is that?
[21:40] <blackflow> Dom___: yes, but you need to set up permissions for it. your nginx user has to be able to read the fpm socket file.
[21:40] <blackflow> Dom___: is the fpm pool running?
[21:41] <Dom___> so i change fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php/php7.0-fpm.sock;  --> fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000 ?
[21:41] <blackflow> Dom___: yes if you don't want the permissions hassle
[21:41] <Dom___> php7.0-fpm start/running, process 3101
[21:42] <LissajousPattern> well here goes yet another fresh install for those who may be following along
[21:42] <blackflow> Dom___: good so if the pool is running, and you changed fastcgi_pass to the tcp socket, restart nginx and it should work, given all else is correct.
[21:42] <LissajousPattern> firefox worked as expected from the USB
[21:42] <xangua> LissajousPattern: how is fresh install?
[21:43] <LissajousPattern> its installing
[21:44] <xangua> OK
[21:44] <LissajousPattern> i will test firefox before i apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade as well as after
[21:44] <LissajousPattern> just to make sure it works before hand yet again
[21:44] <LissajousPattern> this iso was downloaded from the official repo and sha1 checked out fine
[21:45] <LissajousPattern> xubuntu 16.04.1
[21:45] <LissajousPattern> bbiab
[21:45] <Dom___> blackflow: nope still looking for this but not sure if i did it the correct way
[21:47] <blackflow> Dom___: what's the nginx error log saying?
[21:47] <Dom___> blackflow:  invalid number of arguments in "fastcgi_pass" directive
[21:47] <blackflow> Dom___: did you put   ;   at the end of that line you posted above?
[21:48] <blackflow> Dom___:     fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000;
[21:48] <Dom___> blackflow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23675101/
[21:48] <Dom___> ajh ^^ yes
[21:48] <Dom___> well no i didn't ... stupid ^^
[21:49] <Dom___> working ... great ... awesome thanks a lot blackflow
[21:49] <blackflow> Dom___: you're welcome.
[21:54] <Dom___> blackflow: you saved my day/holidays ... i've been struggling with that for so long now and you might know how much this bothers you not beeing able to fix it
[22:01] <kraut> hoi
[22:02] <kraut> i'm on ubuntu 16.04, why can't i upgrade with do-release-upgrade -d?
[22:02] <blackflow> Dom___: yea, I know the feeling :)
[22:03] <Bashing-om> kraut: The next inline is 16.10 .. and it is not in (d)evelopment . What is your end goal ?
[22:03] <kraut> Bashing-om, upgrading to 16.10
[22:03] <Dom___> have a nice holiday to everyone
[22:03] <Dom___> bye
[22:04] <kraut> Bashing-om, i found something, that i need to wait for 16.04.01?
[22:04] <kraut> i don't understand, why
[22:04] <nacc> kraut: did you read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes
[22:04] <kraut> does that describe a safe upgrade-path, or what are such releases for?
[22:04] <blackflow> kraut: which version do you want to upgrade to?
[22:04] <nacc> kraut: do-release-upgrade -d won't ignore an lts setting in the conf file, afaik
[22:05] <Bashing-om> kraut: have you set to upgrade to "any" ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[22:05] <kraut> nacc, not yet, thanks
[22:05] <xxxx> please... i have display troubles (just hdmi monitor works)
[22:05] <xxxx> after installing ARandR (xrandr for lubuntu)
[22:05] <kraut> Bashing-om, LTS
[22:06] <Bashing-om> kraut: :) see: ' cat etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' . If needed then we continue .
[22:06] <kraut> Bashing-om, ok, that's the problem
[22:06] <kraut> thanks
[22:07] <Bashing-om> kraut: :) .. make sure 16,04 is fully updated, and no proprietary drivers are in use .
[22:08] <kraut> i did
[22:08] <kraut> that's checked
[22:08] <kraut> i was just wondering, where the "LTS" switch is
[22:09] <kraut> yeah, upgrading
[22:13] <Krio> Evening
[22:14] <Krio> Anyone here able to help? Im fresh to ubuntu entirely, and getting by well enough so far. Everything seems to work but my sd card slot. I get an error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23675194/
[22:18] <Bashing-om> kraut: Try ' sudo apt install exfat-utils exfat-fuse ' so the system recognizes the new file system .
[22:19] <Bashing-om> Krio: ^^ sorry kraut niis hilight .
[22:22] <Krio> Bashing-om: Awesome :) Appreciate it. All is working now.
[22:23] <Bashing-om> Krio: :) .. nothing new under the sun . Many been there before you .
[22:27] <anonymous_anthra> hey hey all
[22:29] <xperfecttr> melaba
[22:30] <Ducky^> hey all, I'm trying to use the cups web interface through links2 but when I select "Administration" it just prints out html
[22:30] <Ducky^> I know it can work because I've done it this way before
[22:30] <Ducky^> is there a package I need to install?
[22:37] <Kiteb> Hello, what's the easy way to install Mate on Ubuntu 16.04 ? I checked the ubuntu-mate website, and saw only "Upgrade to MATE Desktop 1.14.x" so I was not sure if that's the right way to install it.
[22:40] <bekks> Kiteb: sudo apt install mate-desktop
[22:40] <Kiteb> bekks: great! thanks
[22:41] <xangua> Kiteb: there's also Ubuntu mate
[22:41] <michael_> hello
[22:41] <bekks> xangua: Which is Ubuntu with mate-desktop installed :)
[22:42] <Kiteb> xangua: I have Ubuntu already installed, too lazy to do a re-install.
[22:43] <LissajousPattern> well firefox immediately crashed right after the install
[22:43] <xangua> LissajousPattern: weird
[22:43] <LissajousPattern> indeed
[22:44] <LissajousPattern> F-ing frustrating is more like it this is the fifth install i have been through
[22:44] <LissajousPattern> oh well back to the drawing board i guess
[22:45] <nacc> LissajousPattern: do you have a the crash signature (or message)?
[22:57] <LissajousPattern> no i dont know how to retrieve it
[22:59] <nacc> LissajousPattern: i mean if you run firefox from the terminal, it should say where it crashed if it does
[22:59] <nacc> LissajousPattern: or `dmesg` might say if it was killed
[22:59] <LissajousPattern> well i posted that earlier
[23:00] <nacc> LissajousPattern: I would have to go back through the scroll log, sorry
[23:00] <LissajousPattern> its coo
[23:00] <LissajousPattern> lcool
[23:02] <LissajousPattern> what do i dmsg?
[23:05] <wafflejock> LissajousPattern, dmesg will just output system errors you can run it before you try to launch firefox, can also launch firefox from the console and after it crashes see if there is any error output where you launched it from or run dmesg again and see if anything that looks related shows up near the end
[23:10] <Sweepyoface> How do you guys suppose I would go about monitoring the uptime of a certain command?
[23:10] <Sweepyoface> eg. <do something> | uptime --name server
[23:10] <Sweepyoface> then uptime --name server would return the time
[23:11] <Sweepyoface> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[23:11] <Seveas> commands don't have an uptime...
[23:11] <Seveas> what do you actually want to monitor?
[23:11] <Sweepyoface> like, a script
[23:11] <Sweepyoface> it's a server
[23:12] <Sweepyoface> oh that was supposed to be a shrug
[23:12] <Seveas> what do you want to monitor about that script?
[23:13] <Sweepyoface> how long it
[23:13] <Sweepyoface> 's been running
[23:13] <Sweepyoface> you know how tmux can show the time in a pane?
[23:13] <Sweepyoface> something like that to monitor how long something's been going would be nice
[23:13] <Seveas> so, wallclocktime since it started. Check /prod/[pid of script]/stat
[23:14] <Sweepyoface> thanks
[23:15] <Seveas> see 'man proc' for all the gory details
[23:18] <frank__> t
[23:24] <medaz_23421> Hi how i type with deffrent color on terminal ?
[23:25] <medaz_23421> or wihle editing a txt using nano ?
[23:26] <Seveas> medaz_23421: you can set a default color in the settings of your terminal emulator
[23:26] <medaz_23421> no i don't mean that
[23:26] <LissajousPattern> yeah dmesg is not showing anything about firefox
[23:26] <medaz_23421> i mean like Microsoft windows , i wanna type hello in green and world in red for example
[23:27] <medaz_23421> i wanna do the seem in terminal , i'm using nano for editing txt
[23:27] <medaz_23421> so i wanna write notes
[23:27] <Seveas> medaz_23421: well, that's not possible.
[23:28] <medaz_23421> that's why i need some words colored
[23:28] <Seveas> you'll need to use something like libreoffice for that.
[23:29] <medaz_23421> well i heard from a man that nothing is impossible , impossible itself said "i'm possible "
[23:29] <medaz_23421> or in fact , that could be a good sign for a tool that could do that
[23:29] <medaz_23421> but why when you do man for some tool , you find some words colored ??
[23:32] <medaz_23421> i assume that i have to google it , bye guys :)
[23:32] <shorty_06> You want a tool to write notes with colours?
[23:33] <shorty_06> Hold on, I've used one before, let me find the name
[23:33] <medaz_23421> ok than you
[23:33] <medaz_23421> *thank you
[23:35] <shorty_06> Hmm. looks like this program can't do colours but it can do bold / underline / italic if that's alright
[23:35] <shorty_06> I use it for making notes when I need clear headings
[23:35] <nacc> nano can do colorizing as syntax highlighting
[23:35] <nacc> but it feels like a real abuse of a terminal editor to put colors in it :/
[23:36] <nacc> why not just use structured formatting if needed? i honestly don't understand what colors get you given the context ('hello' and 'world' in two different colors is an insufficient use case to me)
[23:36] <nacc> or use one of the many note-taking tools
[23:39] <Sabiot> hi there
[23:39] <shorty_06> medaz_23421: I'm going afk now but if you're interested the program I was on about is called zim, it's described as a "desktop wiki" but that basically just means it's a collection of notes that you can link between if you want
[23:39] <shorty_06> I'm not on ubuntu atm so I don't know if it's in the repositories, there's a ppa for it though if it's not
[23:39] <Sabiot> i need a lil help... i am currently in a picle. one USB KEY a live copy of 16.10 and no way installing it to get an active boot.
[23:40] <nacc> shorty_06: zim is in the repos, yes
[23:40] <shorty_06> nacc: Alright, that makes it easier then
[23:40] <dumle29> Hey there I'm in the middle of setting up a server for a LAN, running ubuntu server 16.10. I was wondering if it'd be possible to set it up so that, if a specially named USB dongle was inserted, it would mount it to a folder (I know how to do this) and copy over a file named networkconfig, and then use that for it's ip configuration.
[23:40] <Sabiot> is there any way i can copy the contents of the USB to a HDD
[23:40] <medaz_23421> ok then i just use apt-get install zim
[23:40] <dumle29> I want to set it up this way, as I'd prefer to have the server entirely headless even when I move it to the event where it is needed
[23:41] <shorty_06> medaz_23421: So long as you remember so sudo yes :)
[23:41] <medaz_23421> yes :)
[23:41] <shorty_06> medaz_23421: And you should start using apt instead of apt-get
[23:41] <medaz_23421> thank you , i always use nano for editing text , it's easy for me :)
[23:41] <shorty_06> Pretty much the same thing but has a nice progress bar and is better in some other ways I can't remember
[23:42] <medaz_23421> so sudo apt install zim
[23:42] <BlizzLeon> Hi there, I'm on 16.10 on a Motion Computing J3500 Tablet and I am trying to get the hardware buttons to work. xinput list shows this: http://pastebin.com/siSE7KjN
[23:43] <shorty_06> medaz_23421: You got it :D
[23:43] <medaz_23421> thankx :)
[23:43] <shorty_06> medaz_23421: It's not terminal based btw, forgot to mention that
[23:43] <shorty_06> medaz_23421: Were you looking for something terminal based specifically?
[23:44] <medaz_23421> because you know i'm writing notes a lot , and notebook not that much helpfull so i'm using laptop for that
[23:44] <medaz_23421> ok thankx anyway for help :)
[23:44] <shorty_06> No problem :)
[23:45] <medaz_23421> i think i'm gonna stick with nano i'm cormftable with it
[23:45] <medaz_23421> :)
[23:45] <shorty_06> Alright, fair enough
[23:45] <Amm0n> medaz_23421, do you know cherrytree?
[23:46] <shorty_06> If you ever want colours and stuff you should probably just use libreoffice
[23:46] <medaz_23421> Amm0n what that ??
[23:46] <shorty_06> That's what I use for taking lecture notes
[23:46] <shorty_06> Being able to create tables and insert diagrams makes it better than using a terminal imo
[23:46] <Amm0n> medaz_23421, it's an Outliner i use for taking notes^
[23:46] <medaz_23421> i love typing in terminal , i have a feeling for that , so it's hard to quite
[23:47] <medaz_23421> Amm0n is it a terminal based ??
[23:47] <Amm0n> medaz_23421, no
[23:47] <medaz_23421> Oh ok :)
[23:48] <medaz_23421> my current system is Kali linux 2.0
[23:48] <nectar> Hey. Im getting an error ("System program problem detected") every time i logg into ubuntu after a restart. What can I do?
[23:49] <Amm0n> medaz_23421, for terminal there is task (taskwarrior)
[23:50] <smk447> nectar dont restart .. :)
[23:50] <nacc> medaz_23421: so you came to an ubuntu support channel to ask for help on an unsupported OS...
[23:50] <nacc> !kali | medaz_23421
[23:50] <medaz_23421> It's ok they are the seem
[23:51] <nacc> they are not the same and kali is not supported here.
[23:51] <medaz_23421> they both pretty the seem commands
[23:51] <nacc> medaz_23421: please respect the rules of the channel
[23:51] <smk447> nectar ...sorry i'm in a good mood todat
[23:51] <medaz_23421> Ok sorry no heart feeling , i'm only for information here
[23:51] <nectar> smk447: thats ok :) not sure where to look for details on the error
[23:53] <smk447> nectar try read this.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/133385/getting-system-program-problem-detected-pops-up-regularly-after-upgrade/369297
[23:54] <medaz_23421> nacc it's not a big deal here :) so please don't make it bigger
[23:54] <medaz_23421> anyway thankx guys for help :)
[23:55] <medaz_23421> Amm0n  i will try that one taskwarrior
[23:55] <nectar> smk447: *nectar reboots*
[23:57] <nectar> smk447:it feckin worked! thanks m8.
[23:58] <nectar> has ubuntu always owned freenode?
[23:58] <smk447> nectar no problem
[23:59] <nectar> *goes to watch netflix* :) :)
[23:59] <nacc> nectar: ubuntu does not own freenode
[23:59] <nectar> i get "freenode (ubuntu servers" in hexchat. (anyway..)