[00:00] <valorie> wxl: if you want more tests, you might have to post on #kubuntu or the list
[00:03] <DarinMiller> wxl: YY and ZZ box tested fine with Konversation on bare metal here.
[00:04] <wxl> valorie: my only concern is i kind of winged the whole freaking thing and i'm not sure everything's perfect. but i guess you're right. and if it worked for DarinMiller there you go :)
[00:05]  * DarinMiller DarinMiller can break everything so if it is working for him, it must be pretty solid...
[00:06] <valorie> lol
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[09:19] <ovidiuflorin> hello
[09:19] <ovidiuflorin> anyone around?
[09:25] <ovidiuflorin> the gpgme++ package is outdated
[09:25] <ovidiuflorin> I can't seem to identigy which is the devel package
[09:26] <ovidiuflorin> project repo is here: https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gpgme.git;a=summary
[09:29] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: libgpgmepp-dev pulls in the C++ and Qt bindings and deps
[09:29] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: it is outdated as currently the synced package from debian in zesty is FTBFS
[09:30] <acheronuk> LP Bug: #1647204
[09:32] <ovidiuflorin> acheronuk: I'm trying to build kde-pim
[09:32] <ovidiuflorin> to work on it
[09:32] <ovidiuflorin> and it requires a dev package for gpgme++
[09:32] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: ok. 2 secs then.
[09:32] <ovidiuflorin> something tht contains QGpgmeConfig.cmake
[09:33] <ovidiuflorin> or qgpgme-config.cmake
[09:33] <ovidiuflorin> I can't find such packages
[09:33] <acheronuk> See in KCI: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=gpgme1.0&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[09:35] <ovidiuflorin> I see
[09:35] <ovidiuflorin> when do you rekon that will get in backports?
[09:35] <acheronuk> they are bit patched as a temp measure up to make them build on launchpad for KCI, so should not be used on production systems until we have proper vesrions building in the archive
[09:37] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: at the moment I can't say. those gpgme1.0 builds are not KCI'd ones, so you can probably rebuild them where you like for testing purposes
[09:39] <ovidiuflorin> ah
[09:39] <ovidiuflorin> bummer
[09:39] <ovidiuflorin> do they contain the cmake files I need?
[09:39] <acheronuk> yep
[09:39] <ovidiuflorin> the project sources from https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gpgme.git;a=summary don't have cmake 
[09:39] <ovidiuflorin> so I wonder who adds the cmake files
[09:43] <acheronuk> AFAIK you set build options to make them
[09:44] <acheronuk> debian packaging https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-gnupg/gpgme.git/tree/
[09:44] <ovidiuflorin> I'll be back in about an hour
[09:44] <ovidiuflorin> and I'll try to build it then
[09:44] <ovidiuflorin> unless somebody stops me
[09:44]  * ovidiuflorin makes a "The mask" refference
[09:47] <acheronuk> ok. the straight debian packaging will not build in a ppa. hence us having one with some hacky patches in KCI to make it work. 
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[10:53] <ovidiuflorin> acheronuk: ping
[10:53] <ovidiuflorin> where do I get the sources from?
[10:55] <ovidiuflorin> aha
[10:55] <ovidiuflorin> I get it now
[11:00] <acheronuk> got them? dget the dsc file link from the KCI builds
[11:03] <ovidiuflorin> I don't want to build a pacakge
[11:04] <ovidiuflorin> I'm not installing it in my system
[11:04] <ovidiuflorin> I'm installing it in my development environment
[11:04] <ovidiuflorin> so just the sources are enough
[11:04] <ovidiuflorin> I'm trying to figure out he build commands from the build log
[11:04] <ovidiuflorin> but that only shows output, not the actual build commands
[11:07] <acheronuk> debian/rules may help
[11:09] <acheronuk> shows the configure commands etc that get passed
[11:15] <ovidiuflorin> configure does not exist in the repo
[11:15] <ovidiuflorin> it needs to be generated
[11:15] <ovidiuflorin> but the INSTALL file gives no info on how to genereate it
[11:16] <ovidiuflorin> I know I need `autoconf`
[11:16] <ovidiuflorin> but with what flags?
[11:17] <ovidiuflorin> I see just the dh commands
[11:17] <ovidiuflorin> well.. that doesn't help...
[11:23] <blaze> debhelper can detect most of the popular build systems, and you can pass build flags directly to dh_* wrapper
[11:24] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: override_dh_auto_configure: section shows what the packaging passes
[11:25] <acheronuk> so doing the same would involve
[11:25] <acheronuk> ./autogen.sh --enable-static --enable-languages="python cpp qt" --infodir=/usr/share/info
[11:27] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: doing that, then running configure and make, builds me the cmake files here
[11:28] <ovidiuflorin> awesome
[11:28] <ovidiuflorin> I just need a different prefix for configure
[11:28] <ovidiuflorin> do I give that to autogen.sh ?
[11:28] <ovidiuflorin> or just configure?
[11:29] <ovidiuflorin> acheronuk: ^
[11:30] <acheronuk> I just ran ./autogen.sh --enable-static --enable-languages="python cpp qt" --infodir=/usr/share/info
[11:30] <acheronuk> then as instructed by the output of that
[11:30] <ovidiuflorin> ok
[11:30] <ovidiuflorin> thanks
[11:31] <ovidiuflorin> is that infodir a destination or a source
[11:31] <acheronuk> ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode && make -j4
[11:31] <ovidiuflorin> that's my question
[11:31] <ovidiuflorin> maintainer mode?
[11:32] <ovidiuflorin> what's that?
[11:33] <acheronuk> --infodir= will be an override on where to install some stuff AFAIK. you may want that or not. if you are just wanting the cmake, perhaps not
[11:33] <ovidiuflorin> no, I need the lib to be used
[11:33] <ovidiuflorin> and available through cmake
[11:34] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: mainainter mode I'm not sure on. I presume sets some build flags/options, but exactly what I don't know 
[11:35] <ovidiuflorin> I've tried this: $ ./configure --build=x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/home/ovidiu/KDE/install --includedir=\${prefix}/include --mandir=\${prefix}/share/man --infodir=\${prefix}/share/info --sysconfdir=\${prefix}/etc --localstatedir=\${prefix}/var --disable-silent-rules --libdir=\${prefix}/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu --libexecdir=\${prefix}/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-dependency-tracking --enable-static "--enable-languages=cpp
[11:35] <ovidiuflorin>  qt"
[11:36]  * sick_rimmit Enters
[11:36] <ovidiuflorin> compiling now
[11:37] <ovidiuflorin> I'll see if install works when it's done
[11:37] <sick_rimmit> Got to take dogs for a walk, I be back in a bit. 
[11:38] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: I just followed the options from the debian packaging and accepted the default on configure as it suggested. I don't know what the outcome of passing all that extra to configure will be
[11:39] <ovidiuflorin> the extra is there to ensure the corrent install prefix
[11:39] <ovidiuflorin> and to not build for python
[11:39] <ovidiuflorin> since I don't currently care for having that
[11:40] <ovidiuflorin> acheronuk: when do you think we cound have this thing pacakged?
[11:40] <ovidiuflorin> in some stable ppa
[11:40] <ovidiuflorin> you said a proper version
[11:40] <ovidiuflorin> what does that exactly mean?
[11:41] <acheronuk> LP Bug: #1647204
[11:41] <acheronuk> ^^^ needs to be resolved
[11:42] <acheronuk> Santa *was* working on it. but has vanished for the last 2 weeks
[11:44] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: also an issue for frameworks 5.29 if we want to do that
[11:44] <acheronuk> from the trello card on that listing issues:
[11:44] <acheronuk> "Fix gpgme1.0 in proposed (we need this for kwallet-kf5) (WIP by Santa, it's very hard, deadlocks involved)"
[11:45] <ovidiuflorin> kde-pim cannot be built because of htat
[11:45] <acheronuk> correct
[11:45] <acheronuk> and QtWebEngine
[11:45] <ovidiuflorin> that's what I'm trying to build
[11:45] <ovidiuflorin> QtWebEngine I have prebuilt from Qt
[11:46] <ovidiuflorin> I dont' understand the issue of that bug
[11:46] <ovidiuflorin> either I don't know something, or I'm missing something
[11:47] <acheronuk> it won't build on ubuntu without relaxing the hardening options, and the LP build system doesn't seem to cope with the post build tests. deadlocks on running gpg-agent for them
[11:48] <ovidiuflorin> it worked
[11:49]  * ovidiuflorin is eating some sarmale
[11:49] <acheronuk> may work locally, but archive builds and their environment are a different thing
[11:50] <acheronuk> ditto for ppa builds
[11:54] <ovidiuflorin> acheronuk: do you know anything about qt5webkitwidgets ?
[11:55] <acheronuk> no, sorry
[11:57] <ovidiuflorin> kmail seems to need Qt 5.6
[11:57] <ovidiuflorin> and I was using 5.7
[11:57] <ovidiuflorin> I need to downgrade....
[11:57] <ovidiuflorin> yeeeey
[11:58] <ovidiuflorin> they  broke cackwards compatibility with webengine at some point
[11:58] <ovidiuflorin> IIRC
[11:58] <ovidiuflorin> this might be it
[12:06] <ovidiuflorin> nope...
[12:06] <ovidiuflorin> that doesn't fix it
[12:07] <ovidiuflorin> I don't knwo if I have patience for this again....
[12:10] <ovidiuflorin> :))))
[12:10] <ovidiuflorin> I found the issue
[12:11] <ovidiuflorin> they upgraded the minimum qt version in the `messagelib` library
[12:11] <ovidiuflorin> to qt 5.6
[12:11] <ovidiuflorin> but they still require as dependency a package from qt5.5
[12:11] <ovidiuflorin> that does not exist enymore in 5.6
[12:12] <yofel> which one o.O?
[12:12] <ovidiuflorin> they also require the updated version
[12:12] <ovidiuflorin> set(QT_REQUIRED_VERSION "5.6.0")
[12:12] <ovidiuflorin>    find_package(Qt5 ${QT_REQUIRED_VERSION} CONFIG REQUIRED Widgets Network PrintSupport WebEngine WebEngineWidgets WebKitWidgets)
[12:12] <ovidiuflorin> last module
[12:12] <yofel> ...
[12:12] <ovidiuflorin> that doesn't exist in 5.6
[12:12] <yofel> yeah, that's gone
[12:13] <ovidiuflorin> how is that built anywhere?
[12:13] <ovidiuflorin> the have the webenginewidgets...
[12:13] <yofel> we might still have that lingering around in the archive
[12:13] <ovidiuflorin> so I guess they missed it on removing it
[12:13] <ovidiuflorin> that should fail
[12:13] <ovidiuflorin> unless you have 2 qt's installed
[12:13] <ovidiuflorin> in the same place
[12:21] <acheronuk> libqt5webkit5-dev (5.6.1+dfsg-5ubuntu1) 
[12:21] <acheronuk> provides Qt5WebKitWidgetsConfig.cmake
[12:22] <ovidiuflorin> that can't be qt 5.6
[12:22] <ovidiuflorin> something is wrong there
[12:22] <acheronuk> http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/amd64/libqt5webkit5-dev/filelist
[12:23] <acheronuk> http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/libqt5webkit5-dev
[12:24] <acheronuk> 5.6.1+dfsg-4ubuntu1~2 in yakkety
[12:24] <yofel> Qt has some extra modules, might be from that section
[12:25] <acheronuk> built by qtwebkit-opensource-src
[12:36] <ovidiuflorin> is this built from master? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/11762257
[12:36] <yofel> everything's built from master currently
[12:37] <yofel> or should be, unless someone messed with the job config
[12:39] <ovidiuflorin> I'm having issues building that
[12:39] <ovidiuflorin> make[2]: *** No rule to make target '/home/ovidiu/KDE/install/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgpgme@libsuffix@', needed by 'src/libKF5Libkleo.so.5.4.40'.  Stop.
[12:39] <ovidiuflorin> i guess something is wrong with the gpgme I've built
[12:40] <ovidiuflorin> it doesn't export the targets right 
[12:40] <ovidiuflorin> so libkleo doesn't find it
[12:40] <ovidiuflorin> so it seems to me, I'm back to that gpgme package acheronuk
[12:42] <yofel> hm, with the cmake files possibly, as src/libKF5Libkleo.so.5.4.40 references a nonsense path
[12:43] <yofel> but gpgme *and* kleo are now broken here
[12:44] <acheronuk> well, builds ok in KCI. no idea how functional it is, but it builds
[12:44] <ovidiuflorin> and all I wanted was to work on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330533
[12:44] <ovidiuflorin> I dont' have the patience to solve this anymore
[12:45] <ovidiuflorin> this is a hure roadblock for developers....
[12:45] <yofel> can't you just take the dev parts from KCI?
[12:45] <yofel> or was something missing?
[12:45] <ovidiuflorin> I'll get a docker container and add in there all the ppa's
[12:45] <acheronuk> make a chroot and add KCI repo?
[12:45] <ovidiuflorin> but not now
[12:45] <ovidiuflorin> I'm feeling a cold sneaking up on me
[12:46] <ovidiuflorin> and I'm annoyed right now about this issue (the fact that I've been solving build dependencies for 4 hours now
[12:46] <ovidiuflorin> and I can't work on the code that I want to work on
[12:46] <ovidiuflorin> this is freakin' anoying
[12:46] <acheronuk> I would like to fix the gpgme in the archive that santa was workign on, but I'm not really sure if the hacks santa made to getting it building are acceptable
[12:47] <ovidiuflorin> I'm taking a break, for now
[12:47] <ovidiuflorin> I'll work on something else after a nap
[12:47] <ovidiuflorin> if i can sleep
[12:48] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: best idea if you are getting frustrated
[12:48] <ovidiuflorin> I don't want to spend my hollydays in bed, sick
[12:48] <ovidiuflorin> 4 freaking hours !!!
[12:48] <ovidiuflorin> every f&^$% time
[12:48] <ovidiuflorin> I never get to do the work I start out to do
[12:48] <ovidiuflorin> because of this ^*$%^& issue
[12:48]  * ovidiuflorin out
[12:49] <yofel> I once had a kde4 dev env setup, which literally took days to set up. Today kdesrc-build is supposed to make that easier, but it's still fiddly
 It never does
 At least kdevelop takes 2 hours to set up
 But everything else is just painful
 I have to compile everything myself
 All the KDE packages
 All the GNU packages
 All the extra what evers
 And then keep track of them
 No wonder so few people join in...
[12:52] <acheronuk> morning clivejo 
[12:54] <clivejo> morning?
[12:54] <yofel> well, we have CI images again, so as long as they boot, you should be able to set up a dev VM *fairly* easily
[12:54] <acheronuk> "zz_clivejo is now known as clivejo"
[12:54] <yofel> maybe
[12:54] <acheronuk> clivejo: you just woke up
[12:54] <yofel> and it's always morning on IRC XD
[12:54] <clivejo> oh
[12:54] <acheronuk> in IRC land, anyway :P
[12:54] <clivejo> I ticked an away box in my BNC yesterday
[12:55] <clivejo> so thats what that does!
[12:55] <clivejo> Happy Christmas eve
[12:56] <sick_rimmit> Merry Christmas clivejo
[12:56] <acheronuk> I'll be happier day after boxing day. :P
[12:56] <acheronuk> oh... damn it...
[12:57] <clivejo> Ill be much happier after January
[12:57] <acheronuk> Merry Xmas eve everyone
[12:57] <acheronuk> January?
[12:57] <clivejo> Ive stupid self accessment due on the 31st
[12:57] <acheronuk> oh... yikes
[12:57] <sick_rimmit> Oh, those are anoying
[12:57] <clivejo> yup
[12:58] <clivejo> designed so you need professional help
[12:59] <clivejo> and of course Ill be trying to submit mine that night
[12:59] <clivejo> 2 minutes before the deadline!
[13:00] <clivejo> anyways, lunch time!
[13:01] <blaze> clivejo: are you ready to hunt down a wren?
[13:01] <clivejo> Ive few things to get sorted before Conor arrives
[13:02] <clivejo> and tidy up after Baraba, messy *beep*
[13:02] <clivejo> Barbara
[13:06]  * yofel is yet again readin CI code, but has no freakin' clue where it even tries to set the appropriate upstream branch
[13:07] <acheronuk> yofel: that is one think I wanted to ask. can you set on override so that it fetches a branch other than master?
[13:08] <acheronuk> e.g. I would like to add labplot2, with ATM is kde4 with a separate kf5 branch
[13:08] <yofel> well, *technically* you can do overrides. Might even work the way it did in the past.
[13:08] <yofel> Problem is that currently there's no pattern matching
[13:09] <yofel> ci-tooling/data/overrides/base.yaml has the overrides
[13:09] <yofel> the old ones
[13:09] <acheronuk> yes, I saw there was that file with ancient overrides, but was not sure if that still worked
[13:09] <acheronuk> from what you say, it doesn't
[13:10] <yofel> neither do I, I'm currently trying to understand exactly that code 
[13:10] <yofel> because that's the one I would need to fix for stable builds
[13:10]  * acheronuk shuts up and lets yofel read the ruby
[13:11] <yofel> e.g. if you look at 
[13:11] <yofel> '*{debian.org,packaging.neon}*/frameworks/prison':
[13:11] <yofel>   '{kubuntu_unstable,Neon/unstable}':
[13:11] <yofel>     upstream_scm:
[13:11] <yofel>       branch: frameworks
[13:11] <yofel> this should be possible
[13:12] <yofel> maybe '*{git.launchpad.net}*/<pkg>' would actually work
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:12] <yofel> hey BluesKaj
[13:13] <BluesKaj> hi yofel
[13:13] <acheronuk> yes, that is what I was wondering, but really had no idea if the code to parse and act on all that still existed
[13:13] <yofel> hm, I think I actually found the point that I need to hook into. As there's a spot where it just sets 'master' as the default upstream branch
[13:13] <yofel> the code should still be there
[13:13] <yofel> should be worth a try
[13:13] <yofel> you just need the correct repo pattern, which I think is the one I just posted
[13:14] <yofel> or hm
[13:14] <yofel> maybe not
[13:14] <yofel> '*{git.launchpad.net}*/kubuntu-packagers/+git/<pkg>' maybe
[13:16] <yofel> I need to figure out how to setup ruby-xdebug >.<
[13:32] <blaze> and I need to study some kernel api changes
[13:32] <blaze> but who cares
[13:33]  * sick_rimmit Whoops as he finally fixes his ability to post to the kubuntu-devel mailing list
[13:33] <yofel> clivejo: you might want to check whether the BNC can't just set the away flag
[13:34] <acheronuk> clivejo: you used this? http://wiki.znc.in/Simple_away
[13:35] <clivejo> yes, thios could get annoying very quickly!
[13:38]  * yofel puts up a big note at the door to not forget dr.who tomorrow
[13:42] <sick_rimmit> Hmmm - Struggling to compile kdevelop-xdebug - am getting an error with QT_QT_INCLUDE_DIR but can't find anything in the docs to help me solve what this needs 
[13:45] <sick_rimmit> ubottu kdevelop
[13:45] <yofel> !info kdevelop
[13:45] <sick_rimmit> !info kdev-xdebug
[13:45] <sick_rimmit> !info kdevelop-xdebug
[13:45] <sick_rimmit> hmm
[13:46] <yofel> not in CI either it seems
[13:47] <sick_rimmit> I'm so close with this setup - I have VM Configured, Kdevelop 5 with everything accept Xdebug plugin...
[13:47] <yofel> the path you need *should* be /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/ on amd64
[13:47] <yofel> no clue right now where that's supposed to be set though
[13:47] <yofel> there was something to get those paths
[13:47] <sick_rimmit> yofel: I think that might be what I need, or some variant of it
[13:48] <sick_rimmit> I'll have a play about
[13:48] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Thanks :-D
[13:48] <clivejo> is it part of the php or python plugin?
[13:48] <sick_rimmit> its the PHP Debugger
[13:48] <yofel> xdebug is a seperate debugger lib, not really bound to a language
[13:48] <clivejo> have you installed the kdevelop-php packages?
[13:49] <sick_rimmit> It provides Xdebug support in Kdevelop, so that Xdebug running on the Host can callback to Kdevelop to provide step through, and debug tracing etc...
[13:49] <yofel> clivejo: that's seperate https://cgit.kde.org/kdev-xdebug.git/
[13:50] <yofel> worst case, ask kevin
[13:50]  * sick_rimmit Get's dragged off the sofa to go and visit the inlaws
[13:50] <sick_rimmit> I'll try those paths when I get back later.. 
[13:50] <sick_rimmit> Thanks
[13:50] <sick_rimmit> ttfn
[13:52] <clivejo> kfunk: are you working on kdev-xdebug?
[16:38] <yofel> so, I think I have something now...
[16:41] <yofel> except that it ignores frameworks :S
[18:15] <acheronuk> yofel: was it not originally intended to ignore frameworks and always do them from master no matter what?
[18:15] <yofel> acheronuk: frameworks already has master, so originally, the unstable build for frameworks was copied to the stable ppa post-build to not do the job twice
[18:16] <yofel> s/already/only/
[18:16] <yofel> someone review https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci-admins/kubuntu-ci/+git/pangea-tooling/commit/?h=stable_build_rework&id=23fc87f1eb5bd455bca832359b8de116cfd941c8
[18:16] <yofel> already kind of does the job
[18:17] <yofel> but it's spaghetticode
[18:18] <clivejo> I cant make head nor tail of that :(
[18:18] <yofel> hence spaghetti code. And there's a fair amount of pattern matching involved
[18:20] <clivejo> I think Id need to learn ruby to even attempt to understand what it is doing
[18:21] <acheronuk> yofel: ah. right. I've seen "not frameworks so not copying" console messages, so that explains those :)
[18:21] <clivejo> what is build_type?
[18:21] <yofel> un/stable
[18:25] <clivejo> so that change _should_ set the branch correctly for stable SC?
[18:25] <yofel> yes, except that we'll be double-building frameworks
[18:25] <yofel> hm, and it crashed on kdegraphics-strigi-analysers
[18:25] <yofel> as that's not a valid thing anymore it seems
[18:27] <clivejo> no idea what that is!
[18:27] <clivejo> !info kdegraphics-strigi-analysers
[18:27] <yofel> !info kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer xenial
[18:28] <yofel> that's not a thing in yakkety
[18:29] <yofel> how do we handle such EOL stuff?
[18:29] <clivejo> needs to be got rid of then!
[18:29] <yofel> delete the _un/stable branch?
[18:29] <yofel> I'll kick it out of the project list for now
[18:30] <yofel> together with the other strigi stuff
[18:32] <clivejo> theres a yakkety branch :/
[18:33] <yofel> from early dev I guess
[18:33] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
[18:33] <yofel> kdgantt2 is also dead
[18:44] <yofel> oh urgh, frameworks will need special casing for this to work right, as frameworks shouldn't have a _stable branch
[18:44] <yofel> back to figuring out how that worked again
[20:28] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas to and to all a Good Night! :-)
[21:32] <clivejo> who was VikingRedwolf?
 @clivejo, Simon's friend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rafaellaguna I think?
[22:06] <clivejo> oh nice
[22:13] <valorie> happy Christmas everyone
[22:13] <valorie> house is ready, so of course my husband is browsing youtube on the TV
[22:14] <valorie> just saw a guy set his pool on fire and put it out with liquid nitrogen
 @acheronuk, Correct
[22:16] <clivejo> set his pool on fire?!?
[22:16] <valorie> indeed
[22:16] <valorie> clivejo: anything else from your PPA I should test?
[22:17] <valorie> kdeconnect in particular
[22:17]  * sick_rimmit Enters with a glass of scotch, and Christmas cheer
[22:17] <sick_rimmit> Merry Christmas friends
[22:17] <clivejo> yummmm
 valorie: Saw that video a few weeks ago, but if I said something I would have been scolded by Aaron :S
[22:17]  * valorie clicks glasses with sick_rimmit
[22:18]  * valorie has boozy coffee
 Merry Christmas Rick! :)
[22:18] <sick_rimmit> {{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}
[22:18] <valorie> merry Christmas!
 Merry Xmas all :)
 @acheronuk, :O I thought the majority if not all of the Britains were Christians!
[22:20] <sick_rimmit> No i think it is only a few these days
 @tsimonq2, No. Why ruin Xmas by bringing religion into it?
[22:20] <sick_rimmit> My family and I will be at Church tomorrow, and if we're lucky there will one other family
 @acheronuk, *facepalm* that's the point
 :O what have you guys become!?!
 @tsimonq2, not MY point
[22:21] <sick_rimmit> On the park opposite, there is a grafitti wall. Which a new peice of art
[22:22] <clivejo> tsimonq2: what are you blathering about
[22:22] <sick_rimmit> It's Santa with a Red Face and Sharp teeth, and the words "Satan Clause"
[22:22] <sick_rimmit> On ways total off topic so I'll shut up, but I thought it was funny
 Lol sick_rimmit
 clivejo: How I'm unfairly treated. :P
[22:24] <sick_rimmit> We've got alot of posts on Facebook, saying I am an Atheist, but wishing you Merry Xmas
[22:24] <sick_rimmit> We thought that was very funny
[22:25] <clivejo> X is the Greek for Christ?
 HAHAHAHAHAH very funny
 have another brandy, then you care less about semantics ;)
[22:27] <sick_rimmit> Oooo Good Idea!
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/MJ70Yr0i/file_1540.mp4
[22:29] <clivejo> lots of old headstone here are marked "IHS"
 @acheronuk, Gif was in response to this
 Hehehehe
[22:30] <clivejo> the name Christus , spelt "ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ", hence the X in Xmas
 well, I just use it because it's shorter typing, and "happy holidays" sounds naff
[22:32] <clivejo> Happy Stuffing your face until you feel sick
 @clivejo, Now you have the real meaning of Xmas :P
[22:33]  * sick_rimmit give his trusty wooden nativity model a trusy pat
[22:34]  * clivejo watches The Grand Tour
[22:37]  * sick_rimmit wonders why Kdevelop find and replace loses hands down to grep
[22:38] <valorie> tonight we just have sandwiches, munchies, hot cider etc.
[22:38] <valorie> tomorrow there will be dinner at Bob's brother's
 clivejo: What did you get Max for Christmas?
 Any of you uses hp laptop?
 @marcinsagol, Toshiba here. Though about a HP, but saw lot's of ubuntu forums posts where people had probs with them. UEFI boot issues etc
 Right. My brother has new one. In the network manager there is no WiFi section and I don't know why. Is it blocked on hardware level somehow? On windows 10 on the same machine it works.
[22:59] <clivejo> Toshiba here too
[23:15] <acheronuk> Mostly habit, but never had much issue putting linux on a Toshiba laptop. Others I have had hassle with...
[23:15] <acheronuk> so tend to go for thsoe
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/BfWROFU2/file_1544.jpg
 ?
[23:24] <clivejo> She's supposed to be "broadcasting" using that CB radio
[23:24] <clivejo> yet its not even connected to an antenna
[23:24] <clivejo> duh