[00:00] <ELANATU> except the thing is i cant do it now (i need to get a backup disk) and i hate going to bed without knowing! :)
[00:01] <Amm0n> ELANATU, check lsof | grep deleted
[00:02]  * debkad take it as a bug, stay with the old kernel for the moment
[00:04] <debkad> /quit
[00:07] <jamesrleimer> hi
[00:09] <ELANATU> THANKS TO tgm4883,OerHeks,wafflejock,Amm0n and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
[00:10] <wafflejock> ELANATU, happy holidays have a good night
[00:10] <wafflejock> hi jamesrleimer
[00:12] <jamesrleimer> anyone play with conky?
[00:14] <sonicwind> I just started learning about conky (new to Ubuntu)... some of the ones shared on Ubuntu forums look great
[00:14] <jamesrleimer> yea i browse the post your conkyrc and screenshot...forum....lot of good info there
[00:15] <jamesrleimer> just got a little problem...but otherwise my script is set
[00:15] <sonicwind> I'm hoping to learn more about it in the coming weeks... so much to learn
[00:16] <jamesrleimer> that forum i just mentioned is the best place for info
[00:16] <sonicwind> yeah I've looked at dozens of them
[00:16] <Guest68713> I got a stupid question that hopefully won't get too much hate. Can I ask here?
[00:17] <Colombo> Hey, I have been reading a bit more about my problem with AMDGPU and HDMI. I tried AMDGPU-PRO, but my computer, keyboard, mouse and wifi all started burning and even the sound issue was not solved as not only it was not playing anything, but the HDMI sound connection dissapeared entirely.
[00:18] <Colombo> However, I have read that the DAL improvement in kernel can fix it. I have found one ppa, but it is not working and according to Phoronix, it was refused to be merged into main branch. So I have to find appropriate branch, right?
[00:18] <Colombo> Now, the question is: where?
[00:19] <Colombo> I see https://www.kernel.org/, but I don't know wheter the 4.8 would include the DAL improvement or not. Changelog does not say anyhthing.
[00:19] <wafflejock> Guest68713, so long as it's to do with ubuntu support this is the place
[00:19] <Guest68713> I've been trying to install Ubuntu along side with windows ten. My monitor says "input not supported" when I try to live boot or install. I've tried nomodeset and acpi = off
[00:19] <jamesrleimer> what about the uefi
[00:20] <Guest68713> What about uefi?
[00:21] <LissajousPattern> firefox works!
[00:21] <LissajousPattern> Merry Christmas!
[00:22] <Guest68713> I mean, I'm pretty okay at Googlefu, but even that's little help.
[00:22] <LissajousPattern> what do you need help with?
[00:23] <wafflejock> Guest68713, yeah the input not supported typically means it is getting some signal but it is the wrong resolution or refresh rate and the monitor doesn't support it
[00:23] <wafflejock> Guest68713, do you see the bootloader and everything up to the point that it actually loads the system?
[00:24] <Guest68713> The furthest I've gotten is the Kernal saying "repeat this process for the rest of the cds in your set"
[00:24] <Guest68713> And that's with acpi=off
[00:24] <Bashing-om> LissajousPattern: What was the nagic potion to get FF functional ?
[00:25] <Guest68713> After about 2 minutes of sitting idly on that Kernal message the screen goes black.
[00:25] <LissajousPattern> Bashing-om, not to install third party BS during installation
[00:25] <LissajousPattern> i think it may have been related to a third party flash plugin possibly
[00:26] <LissajousPattern> yeah i literally just rebooted for the first time after a fresh install and did all the updates and she is working just fine
[00:27] <wafflejock> Guest68713, you may want to verify the installation media actually got created correctly (verify the hash on the download and the actual media) I don't believe it should be asking for extra media
[00:27] <Bashing-om> LissajousPattern: K; .. I too always wait til after the install to see what else I might want to install - kinda hands on .
[00:27] <Guest68713> I would try to un# the 640 by 480p in grub's comfig like in Debian, but I don't have access to any kinda shell
[00:27] <LissajousPattern> yeah lesson learned
[00:28] <LissajousPattern> Bashing-om, i have just never had issues before with it but now i know.
[00:28] <Bashing-om> LissajousPattern: But 6 installs .. ouch !
[00:28] <LissajousPattern> yeah i know
[00:28] <LissajousPattern> my brain hurts
[00:28] <Guest68713> Well that's the thing wafflejock, I've re-download the iso from here twice and through unetbootin once.
[00:28] <LissajousPattern> and my butt hurts too
[00:29] <LissajousPattern> but its Christmas so i am full of joy
[00:31] <wafflejock> Guest68713, do you have another monitor around you could try by chance? also have you tried using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a tty outside the graphical desktop environment?
[00:32] <Guest68713> I can try two other monitors, and next I'll unplug my gpu and use integrated graphics
[00:32] <wafflejock> Guest68713, typically the software will probe the monitor to get the display modes it can support and will pick one appropriately but you can use xrandr to see the modes and switch between them for different outputs
[00:33] <Guest68713> Here's the part that gets to me, when I acpi= off I wind up on indicators of a broken iso
[00:34] <Guest68713> Rufus and unetbootin are fine though, correct?
[00:34] <wafflejock> so far as I know but I'm usually using dd to put images onto usbs lately
[00:35] <Guest68713> Would Ubuntu 16.04 have any issues with 10 series nvidia gpus?
[00:35] <wafflejock> Guest68713, not that I'm aware of but I have an ancient GTX670 :)
[00:36] <wafflejock> it plays nice with that but people seem to have a lot of problems even on windows with the 1060/70/80 cards that I don't seem to have for whatever reason (granted I can't run things at ultra anymore)
[00:36] <Guest68713> I feel your pain, I was on a 750ti until recently.
[00:38] <Guest68713> I'll just download the torrent and see if I have better results
[00:38] <Defiance_> ive the 1080 hybrid and it blows thru anything i throw at it
[00:38] <Guest68713> Hey defiance, I can make you hate me with one message:
[00:38] <wafflejock> Defiance_, it should :)
[00:39] <Guest68713> I'm using my 1060 with a 6350...
[00:39] <Defiance_> lol
[00:39] <Guest68713> Joke's on you though, I'm full of self-loathing.
[00:39] <Defiance_> im actually running a ti550 on this machine right now
[00:40] <Guest68713> Nah man, you can blow through minecraft on that.
[00:41] <Guest68713> K I made a dd image from torrented Ubuntu
[00:42] <Colombo> anyone know where I could download kernel with DAL support?
[00:42] <Defiance_> a girlfriend of mines 7 year old son loves minecraft, has his own you tube channel for it lol
[00:42] <Guest51231> can you guys recommend any good chatrooms who are pentesting related?
[00:42] <Guest68713> Tbh I misread that message for a sec defiance.
[00:43] <Guest68713> Dang it. Same acpi problem
[00:44] <Guest68713> I'm fairly confident that this image is clean.
[00:44] <Guest68713> If it's not, I'll eat my hat.
[00:47] <Guest68713> It's weird, older versions of Ubuntu worked when I had my 750ti
[00:47] <Guest68713> There's no way it could be gpu based right?
[00:48] <Guest68713> I'm gonna add nolapic and see if that helps.
[00:48] <Guest68713> Aaand kernel panic...
[00:49] <Guest68713> I love Ubuntu but I've been trying to even get the installer since yesterday.
[00:51] <Kalgon> Listchans
[00:52] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Guest68713
[00:53] <Guest68713> First thing I tried actually.
[00:53] <Guest68713> Also tried acpi=off
[00:53] <Guest68713> And nolapic
[00:53] <Guest68713> And various combinations of the 3
[00:55] <Guest68713> The most luck I've had is none of the 3 because I get an Ubuntu sounding chime, but then my monitor says input not supported.
[00:57] <fide> Hi all
[00:57] <fide> I am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, but it freeze during start process
[00:58] <fide> I tried again removing splash and found out it freezes after reached target network
[00:59] <Bashing-om> fide: Wired cinnection ? As a WIFI driver may not be available .
[00:59] <fide> nmi watchdog: bug: soft lockup - cpu#1 stuck for 22s
[00:59] <Defiance_> fide have you tried any other variant of ubuntu like kubuntu or kde neon?
[01:01] <fide> Bashing-om, reached target network was marked as OK, the error appeared right after
[01:01] <fide> failed to log firmware chunk
[01:01] <Guest68713> I'm gonna try updating my bios so that the uefi isn't trash.
[01:01] <fide> failed to start init ucode -100
[01:02] <fide> Defiance_, no I didn#t, but I am not reaching X at all
[01:21] <wiggmpk> Running ubuntu 16.04, vinagre is starting automatically upon login. Why is this happening?
[01:26] <Colombo> Anyone knows where I can download kernel with DAL support? Heard that DAL changes were refused to main branch.
[01:36] <r3cluse_> win 1
[01:41] <win32> win 3 =P
[01:45] <wiggmpk> For some reason vino-server and vinagre are starting automatically when I login. I have no idea why this is happening. I have unhidden the stupid "hidden" startup applications. I have deleted the vino-server.desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart. There is no reference for vinagre starting and vino-server doesn't show up in Startup Applications or /etc/xdg/autostart anymore.
[01:46] <Negio> 1
[01:46] <Dalek_Breath> does anyone know how to disable the mail indicator icon which shows the xchat launcher from unity?
[01:47] <Negio> is this chatapp
[01:47] <Negio> is this chatapp?
[01:48] <Dalek_Breath> indicator-message icon on top panel thing
[01:49] <Negio> exit
[01:52] <whoami_> hey guys...?? can you help me.. how to install driver printer canon mp287 on linux lubuntu
[01:58] <Defiance_> whoami_, http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/04/05/canon-pixma-mp287-printer-driver-for-ubuntu/
[01:58] <Defiance_> google is your friend
[01:58] <jonnyblaze> google is skynet
[01:58] <whoami_> ok ok
[01:59] <whoami_> wkwkwk
[01:59] <Defiance_> hail skynet!
[01:59] <whoami_> hello doraemon
[02:08] <bluefox83> holy crap i've never seen it this dead in here
[02:09] <Colombo> Anyone knows where I can download kernel with DAL support?
[02:10] <netameta> will set NODE_EVN='something' work on linux ?
[02:10] <netameta> or that just a windows thing ?
[02:11] <bluefox83> i think i'm the only one here and i have noooo idea
[02:11] <bluefox83> what were you using set NODE_ENV='someting'" ?
[02:11] <bluefox83> on
[02:12] <bluefox83> lolo
[02:12] <bluefox83> dangit...
[02:12] <netameta> currently i am nomt using set
[02:13] <winsen> hi all
[02:13] <winsen> wich reliable search engine would you suggest?
[02:13] <netameta> i am using NODE_ENV='something'
[02:13] <bluefox83> google
[02:13] <bluefox83> but what are you using it in?
[02:13] <bluefox83> some sort of software?
[02:13] <bazhang> winsen, that is hardly topical for ubuntu support, try a chat channel
[02:13] <netameta> just to set environment variable
[02:13] <bluefox83> in whaaaat?
[02:14] <bluefox83> are you writing some sort of software?
[02:14] <bluefox83> looks kinda like setting the environment for c++ but not exactly
[02:15] <bluefox83> especially since you just pick the path for your compiler, and let the system figure out what environment it's in at compile time
[02:15] <netameta> bluefox83, its a nodejs application
[02:15] <winsen> bazhang: you think?
[02:15] <bluefox83> javascript? yuck
[02:15] <netameta> and to run it i need some variable
[02:16] <netameta> yuck .. dont know if i agree
[02:16] <winsen> bazhang: maybe you're little bit exagerating.
[02:16] <bluefox83> yeah
[02:16] <bluefox83> i am
[02:16] <bluefox83> i'm not sure where you
[02:16] <bluefox83> d find that info
[02:18] <netameta> bluefox83, Dont worry about it i am just going avoid set for now, thanks for your time
[02:19] <bluefox83> netameta, no problem
[02:25] <galex-713> Did anyone already made a Zalman Trimon 3d monitor work once?
[02:30] <dark> hi
[02:32] <wiggmpk> I am extremely frustrated. Someone please explain to me how vino-server and vinagre are automatically starting with no reference to them in /etc/xdg/autostart ~/.config/autostart or the GUI "Startup Applications"
[02:44] <wiggmpk> make my Christmas come true and help me solve this dilemma
[02:47] <jonnyblaze> no
[02:58] <wiggmpk> sad panda
[02:59] <uxfi> merry xmas everyone
[02:59] <uxfi> :)
[02:59] <uxfi> hi wing
[02:59] <wiggmpk> happy holidays :P
[02:59] <uxfi> thanks
[03:06] <Tugger> hey all
[03:06] <Tugger> any1 here use zfs on ubuntu?
[03:08] <packetwire> list channels
[03:09] <Bashing-om> !alis | packetwire
[03:16] <smurfendrek123> hello?
[03:19] <profetik777> test
[03:19] <smurfendrek123> test?
[03:19] <smurfendrek123> why is no one here?
[03:20] <smurfendrek123> what is this?
[03:20] <profetik777> christmas eve
[03:20] <profetik777> ?
[03:20] <smurfendrek123> ye but still
[03:20] <smurfendrek123> is this freenode?
[03:21] <profetik777> idk
[03:21] <profetik777> its an ubuntu channel thats all i know
[03:22] <wafflejock> smurfendrek123, yes this is just an ubuntu support channel
[03:22] <smurfendrek123> so it's not on the freenode server?
[03:23] <smurfendrek123> im messing around with a irc proxy and im a bit confused
[03:25] <profetik777> about what exactly?
[03:25] <smurfendrek123> whether or not this is going trough my proxy
[03:25] <smurfendrek123> and if it connects to the right things
[03:25] <Bashing-om> smurfendrek123: You are connected to the freenode server . of which one of the chammels you have accessed is #ubuntu .
[03:26] <smurfendrek123> mmm that sounds good
[03:26] <smurfendrek123> but idk if im going trough my proxy
[03:29] <smurfendrek123> i think i am going trough my proxy, there's a log
[03:29] <smurfendrek123> :p
[03:30] <Bashing-om> smurfendrek123: Rub in your status window of your IRC client ' /whois smurfendrek123 ' . see if the IP relates ?
[03:31] <Bashing-om> rub/run*
[03:31] <smurfendrek123> that's just  my external ip
[03:31] <smurfendrek123> im in the same house as my proxy :p
[03:32] <bazhang> smurfendrek123, how is this topical for ubuntu support
[03:33] <profetik777> anyone bored and wanna chat linux lemme know
[03:34] <bazhang> to the offtopic chat channel please profetik777 and smurfendrek123
[03:34] <smurfendrek123> sorry
[03:34] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:34] <Bashing-om> profetik777: General ubuntu chit chat is #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:45] <LinuxNovice> hello, anybody online here?
[03:45] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, did you have an ubuntu support issue
[03:46] <crunchbang> hello code
[03:46] <crunchbang> how are you
[03:46] <LinuxNovice> I need some comprehensive information source regarding how to use wine on ubuntu.
[03:47] <LinuxNovice> having some problem in configuring wine on my old laptop.
[03:47] <LinuxNovice> and I am a beginner in Linux.
[03:47] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, #winehq is the place for that
[03:47] <LinuxNovice> hi all.
[03:48] <crunchbang> what os are you running with wine ?
[03:48] <bazhang> crunchbang, this is ubuntu support
[03:48] <LinuxNovice> I need to install Adobe acrobat pdf reader.
[03:48] <crunchbang> its all linux in the end
[03:48] <bazhang> check the appdb then LinuxNovice and join #winehq
[03:48] <crunchbang> even bill knows that
[03:48] <crunchbang> ;-)
[03:49] <bazhang> crunchbang, not here
[03:49] <LinuxNovice> I am not able to open some pdf files on ubuntu. They keep asking for password.
[03:49] <bazhang> !appdb | LinuxNovice
[03:49] <crunchbang> jk share the knowledge
[03:49] <bazhang> check that database LinuxNovice then go to the wine channel for support
[03:49] <LinuxNovice> but, they are not encrypted. I can open them on Windows without any password.
[03:50] <bazhang> crunchbang, please take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[03:50] <crunchbang> password protexcted pdf's are impossible , try a hexeditor
[03:50] <LinuxNovice> It's only some pdf files. Other pdfs I can open in Ubuntu without the need for any password.
[03:50] <crunchbang> you might get lucky
[03:51] <crunchbang> yeah lets keep it ubuntuuuuuuuuu
[03:51] <LinuxNovice> I think they are not password protected. I can open them in Windows and some linux distros like sparky linux, without password.
[03:51] <bazhang>  /join #winehq LinuxNovice
[03:52] <LinuxNovice> bazhang, ok.
[03:53] <jonnyblaze> wb
[03:53] <crunchbang> thanks
[03:54] <crunchbang> LinuxNovice did you get the help you needed
[03:55] <LinuxNovice> going through that webpage.
[03:56] <LinuxNovice> if I can open those pdf files on ubuntu, I won't be needing any app in wine for this.
[04:00] <Vilegent> pdf should be able to be read in evince
[04:05] <bravis> http://www.howtogeek.com/116569/htg-explains-how-windows-8s-secure-boot-feature-works-what-it-means-for-linux/
[04:06] <bravis> Incase you want to know about uefi
[04:30] <hinatabokkootome> hello guys
[04:30] <jonnyblaze> nerf
[04:31] <hinatabokkootome> I want to folk i2c touchscreen rotation sensor. Where is the source. Pls help
[04:32] <hinatabokkootome> ubuntu 16.04 gnome 2.18 i2c sensor driver work out of box on my lenovo yoga bt stop after bios update
[04:38] <wafflejock> hinatabokkootome, post here on how to get sources from packages in the repository and rebuild a package http://askubuntu.com/questions/28372/how-do-i-get-and-modify-the-source-code-of-packages-installed-through-apt-get
[04:57] <wiggmpk> How do I stop vinagre from automatically starting when I log in
[05:10] <techrunner> So I have been having this weird problem if I connect a PS4 controller to my Ubuntu Mate Laptop to where when I do my Wifi & Ethernet stops working but the controller works perfectly fine. Any Ideas whats wrong?
[05:12] <the_watcher> hey
[05:17] <MarcoP> is there not a terminal command that can grab all updates....program updates and security updates that is not really long?
[05:18] <sintre> sudo apt update
[05:18] <sintre> then sudo apt upgrade
[05:18] <techrunner> Yea I am up to date already
[05:19] <MarcoP> that does not do security updates i don't think
[05:19] <MarcoP> i still got prompted for a security updated after that.
[05:19] <MarcoP> the ubuntu base updates
[05:20] <MarcoP> i know about sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:20] <techrunner> there is also dist-upgrade and full-upgrade
[05:20] <MarcoP> yea i know
[05:20] <MarcoP> so I need to type all that :)
[05:20] <MarcoP> maybe the gui is better :P
[05:21] <MarcoP> there should be a single command to grab all updates
[05:21] <techrunner> I prefer "sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade -y"
[05:21] <MarcoP> seems like some updates only work with dist-upgrade
[05:21] <MarcoP> some updates don't work with that right?
[05:21] <sintre> update command is only a checking service
[05:21] <MarcoP> i've still gotten prompts after running that
[05:22] <MarcoP> i know
[05:22] <sintre> to compare current packages with whats i repos
[05:22] <MarcoP> but even after upgrad ive still gotten a update prompt
[05:22] <sintre> btw merry x-mas
[05:22] <MarcoP> merry christmas
[05:22] <MarcoP> :)
[05:22] <sintre> to all who shall be waiting late night for santa :)
[05:22] <techrunner> pacman was on ubuntu because "sudo pacman -Syu" is nicer
[05:22] <MarcoP> i was running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:23] <MarcoP> then i ran distro-upgrade to get some more updates
[05:23] <sintre> marco> to be expected
[05:23] <MarcoP> I guess the gui is the easiest
[05:23] <MarcoP> it takes all those commands?
[05:23] <sintre> if your doing distro upgrade
[05:23] <MarcoP> no
[05:23] <MarcoP> security bas update
[05:23] <MarcoP> base
[05:24] <MarcoP> if that is what you mean by distro upgrade?
[05:24] <MarcoP> distro upgrades includes the security base updates?
[05:27] <sintre> new release normally include newer packages  with security fixes
[05:27] <sintre> ok try this
[05:27] <Vysty> I just bought a new webcam and I'm unable to get my computer to detect it with 16.04. I've used Cheese so far. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[05:27] <sintre> sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:28] <crunchbang> sorry had to respawn
[05:29] <crunchbang> whois active on here
[05:35] <MarcoP> thanks sintre
[05:35] <sintre> np
[05:35] <sintre> merry -xmas
[05:37] <LinuxNovice> hello, can the page hit ranking given in distrowatch.com be relied upon to choose a suitable distro?
[05:38] <sintre> not in paticular, that just mean thier current popularirty
[05:38] <sintre> if high raninking most likely a decent distro , but all have different purposes
[05:38] <sintre> so figure out what you want , then research said distro
[05:40] <LinuxNovice> yes. They have an option to search based on different criteria. That filters out the various distros and suggests some. Can I expect it to be up to date and correct?
[05:41] <sintre> i would assume if it has a high ranking in traffic , it would me its supported and has a community base
[05:41] <sintre> But again you need to figure out what you want
[05:41] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[05:45] <LinuxNovice> so, I can be reasonably sure that the distros with high page hit ranking are more reliable?
[05:45] <sintre> no , reliable is relative term
[05:46] <sintre> larger popular distros with larger communities can be i gues sinfered to be more reliable as people are actively updating them
[05:46] <sintre> sin you came to ubuntu channel maybe try ubuntu?
[05:47] <sintre> would be a good start on linux journey
[05:47] <LinuxNovice> ok. How about them being more preferred and having more users than others?
[05:47] <sintre> page hits and users arfen't the same thing
[05:48] <sintre> so if you want to try linux i suggeast you try it , download an iso and boot it from a usb stick
[05:48] <sintre> see if you like it
[05:48] <LinuxNovice> ok. Which distros have largerer user base? I know Ubuntu is popular. But, generally.
[05:49] <sintre> ubuntu if you add in its dirivativves
[05:49] <sintre> fedora has alot because its almost a mac clone
[05:49] <sintre> and many man more that get more and more specialized
[05:49] <sintre> download a ubuntu lts
[05:50] <LinuxNovice> so many respins of Ubuntu, Debian. Confused, whether to go for main distros or their respins or derivatives.
[05:50] <sintre> put it on ausb stick and many direction you can ge toff of google on how to dothat
[05:50] <sintre> without any risk
[05:50] <sintre> and see for yourself how it works on your hardware
[05:50] <LinuxNovice> I am doing the same. I'm using live usb of LXLE now.
[05:51] <sintre> well i personally use kubuntu
[05:51] <zomboy121> I'm not a big fan of kde
[05:51] <sintre> which is ubuntu that coem pre packaged witha  kde desktop enviroment
[05:51] <LinuxNovice> your opinion about lxle. I have an old laptop. I need some lightweight distro.
[05:51] <sintre> fine again to each thier own
[05:51] <sintre> thats the cool thing
[05:52] <sintre> can find something that suits you
[05:52] <LinuxNovice> kde will be too much for my laptop, I feel.
[05:52] <sintre> well i'm using kubuntu on a 1.4 ghz core 2 duo with 2 gigs of ram that is 8 years old
[05:52] <sintre> and it does all normall stuff fine
[05:53] <zomboy121> So the feature was implemented,     you don't have to have the taskbar on the side anymore, by force that is, right¿
[05:53] <sintre> if that gives you an idea on what is needed spec wise
[05:53] <zomboy121> Obviously talking about unity
[05:53] <sintre> I don't use normal ubuntu tm so i couldn't tell you
[05:53] <zomboy121> I really would like to know
[05:54] <sintre> use a live usb and find out
[05:54] <sintre> you can find out if you put the effort in
[05:54] <zomboy121> Truest answer i could have got thanks
[05:54] <LinuxNovice> sintre, why do you prefer kde over other DEs?
[05:55] <zomboy121> I never did the research of what mate really is
[05:55] <sintre> I can configure it far more if needed than others , and i just like it
[05:55] <LinuxNovice> I have an old laptop with Intel Celeron M single core processor 1.6 Ghz, 2 gb ram
[05:55] <zomboy121> Kde offers as lot, expansive becomes expensive though
[05:55] <sintre> also plsma the is under alot of development atm
[05:55] <Andselisk> If you are not afraid of frozen or randomly disappearing applets, then MATE is a way to go
[05:56] <zomboy121> Who would fear that
[05:57] <LinuxNovice> I found lxle to be the most high ranked distro for old laptops on distrowatch. That's why I am trying a live usb of that. Need some more options.
[05:57] <zomboy121> Gosh all the things I'm gonna do I already know how
[05:57] <zomboy121> Don't know why I'm here
[05:58] <zomboy121> Maybe off topic would better suit me
[05:58] <zomboy121> I like answering questions
[05:59] <zomboy121> I'm just enjoying my music
[05:59] <zomboy121> VLC has an excellent equalizer
[05:59] <sintre> well zom > not happy to spend my early x-mas morning with somebody who wants to talk arrogantly about my attempt to help them with questions they asked in the first place
[06:00] <zomboy121> Hahahaha
[06:01] <LinuxNovice> any suggestions please?
[06:01] <LinuxNovice> is kde better than other DEs?
[06:01] <LinuxNovice> like xfce or mate?
[06:02] <wafflejock> LinuxNovice, totally opinion based
[06:02] <wafflejock> LinuxNovice, it depends on the hardware the use case and the user
[06:02] <LinuxNovice> does that suit my laptop. The specs I mentioned above.
[06:03] <zomboy121> I would use cinnomin
[06:03] <wafflejock> LinuxNovice, no real loss (aside from a bit of time) in trying out a few desktop environments if you have a USB drive download a few ISOs dd em to the flash drive and boot into a live session and see if you like it
[06:04] <zomboy121> Or just use unetbootin
[06:04] <LinuxNovice> I don't want the system to be sluggish. That's all I want.
[06:04] <zomboy121> Instead of dd
[06:04] <zomboy121> If you wanna learn less
[06:04] <wafflejock> LinuxNovice, well if you just want it not to be sluggish you could skip the DE entirely :)
[06:04] <zomboy121> Do more faster
[06:04] <LinuxNovice> just wanna revive this very old laptop of mine.
[06:04] <wafflejock> LinuxNovice, LXDE and Xubuntu seem to be the "lightest" options available but no way to know but to test
[06:04] <wafflejock> er xfce rather
[06:05] <zomboy121> Oh LinuxNovice revive an on desktop with xfce for sure
[06:05] <wafflejock> Mate works fine on skimpy hardware like raspberry pi as well so that's an option
[06:05] <zomboy121> Old
[06:05] <LinuxNovice> ok. I will do that.
[06:07] <zomboy121> LinuxNovice I think you'll enjoy that
[06:07] <LinuxNovice> which one?
[06:07] <zomboy121> Certainly more than something to do for an hour if you're enjoying the whole Linux thing
[06:07] <LinuxNovice> zomboy121, which one?
[06:08] <zomboy121> XFCE
[06:08] <LinuxNovice> you mean Xubuntu?
[06:08] <zomboy121> Yes
[06:08] <LinuxNovice> ok. I'll try that.
[06:08] <zomboy121> How old is it?
[06:09] <LinuxNovice> Xubuntu 16.10 or 16.04?
[06:09] <LinuxNovice> almost 11 year old
[06:09] <zomboy121> That's good cause you'll have good automatic driver support
[06:10] <LinuxNovice> ok
[06:10] <zomboy121> You pick they're debated on stability that's all I know
[06:10] <LinuxNovice> xfce is better than mate?
[06:10] <xangua> LinuxNovice: I said Lubuntu the last time you were here, I say it again
[06:11] <zomboy121> I'm on Android haven't used Linux in a smile I'm going to do a custom install tomorrow for a live USB maybe
[06:11] <zomboy121> Oh yah xangua is right
[06:11] <zomboy121> Lubuntu
[06:11] <zomboy121> Is better
[06:12] <LinuxNovice> yes. But, Lubuntu is not for beginners, I think. I rely completely on GUI.
[06:12] <zomboy121> For that hardware
[06:12] <zomboy121> It has a fairly decent GUI, for the age of that hardware I'd be debating myself
[06:14] <LinuxNovice> lxle is also a respin of lubuntu, isn't it?
[06:14] <zomboy121> That's not in my timeline of use, to put it frankly
[06:14] <zomboy121> Dunno what that is
[06:15] <xangua> LinuxNovice: lxle is not supported here
[06:15] <zomboy121> Made me gtfm
[06:15] <LinuxNovice> what?
[06:16] <LinuxNovice> I am downloading Lubuntu now.
[06:17] <LinuxNovice> Will try Xubuntu also.
[06:17] <zomboy121> Google that for me
[06:17] <zomboy121> Yah good idea no harm in that
[06:18] <zomboy121> What's your main objective, in using Linux
[06:18] <LinuxNovice> Just to make this very old laptop usable again.
[06:19] <LinuxNovice> Want it to be smooth and convenient to use.
[06:20] <LinuxNovice> also need a linux distro that replaces Windows for me.
[06:23] <zomboy121> Replaces Windows ranges from impossible to easy
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !lfavors
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[06:58] <dhammika> hi
[06:59] <LinuxNovice> thanks guys, for your inputs and suggestions.
[07:32] <stevendale> Hi. I haven't been able to find the answer online. Do the 64-bit alternate images contain files for booting on a EFI/UEFI system?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> all 64 bit images support efi
[07:32] <stevendale> Okay thanks cfhowlett :)
[07:33] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:59] <shalok> I'm running xenial, but I want the yakkety version of 'pidgin-sipe'. I modified my source.list to use yakkety and updated, but I still don't see the yakkety version of pidgin-sipe when I look in aptitude. Why not?
[08:00] <cfhowlett> shalok, mixing source lists is not how that's done and it will break things.
[08:00] <cfhowlett> build from source
[08:00] <shalok> cfhowlett: You mean download a .tar.gz and run ./configure etc?
[08:00] <cfhowlett> yep
[08:01] <cfhowlett> !source | shalok
[08:02] <freeshitnode> i am a shit
[08:02] <freeshitnode> you are all shits
[08:02] <freeshitnode> merry fucking christmas to all of you shits
[08:03] <cfhowlett> yes you are.  and now your are ignored
[08:03] <freeshitnode> lol
[08:03] <freeshitnode> cfhowlett is a shit
[08:12] <joci> Good morning!
[08:13] <shalok> ubottu: Wow, that was super easy. Thanks!
[08:14] <DrManhattan> Hello, I'm on ubuntu 16.04 with 2 NICs. I am using a VPN but I would like to make sure that VNC traffic does NOT route through the VPN but through the second NIC. Is this possible?
[08:17] <shalok> DrManhattan: I don't know the specifics, but I think that `iptables` might be able to help with that.
[08:19] <falkon-chat> hi
[08:19] <DrManhattan> I think iptables can help me force the traffic to a certain NIC, but I'll need a route for that NIC as well to keep it from using the VPN
[08:21] <falkon-chat> :)
[08:40] <joci> Hi guys! i need to accelerate the virtual machine in android app studio, i know i need to use the KVM, but i dont know what is the right permission to access /dev/kvm. How shall i do that ?
[08:54] <Dolmen0> so how is everyone this fine day
[08:54] <joci> Dolmen0: super good
[08:54] <joci> Dolmen0:and you?
[09:00] <ubuntu-gnome> :)
[09:02] <joci> ubuntu-gnome: can you help me out?:)
[09:05] <gokgainz> hi all
[09:05] <Dolmen0> gokgainz: hello
[09:09] <Dolmen0> joci: you mentioned needing help earlier, did you get your issue resolved?
[09:09] <joci> not yet, im still searcing
[09:10] <joci> Dolmen0: not yet , im still searcing
[09:35] <John[Lisbeth]> Merry Chrismtas and Happy Holidays, #ubuntu. Thank you for spending countless hours helping new Linux users, even if all they want to do is get their wifi working 90% of the time
[09:35] <John[Lisbeth]> It really takes patience and I appreciate all of you
[09:51] <MrMart> Hello! I just tried to add a ppa but it 404 on me when running update (probably because it didn't have xenial packages). I instead manually added it to my sources.list with willy (15.10) as ubuntu version instead. Is this seen as malpractice or something that could cause problembs=
[09:52] <Ben64> MrMart: bad idea
[09:52] <John[Lisbeth]> You may want to contact the creator of the ppa
[09:52] <John[Lisbeth]> some ppas just do not work anymore. It is a sad but true thing
[09:54] <mitchel> Hi guys
[09:54] <mitchel> does anyone own a Raspberry Pi?
[09:55] <Bluebell_> what about it?
[09:55] <MrMart> Ben64: Thanks. I'll do it the right way then :)
[09:56] <mitchel> I need some help with X11 forwarding.
[09:57] <mitchel> So I found this guy on reddit, and he posted about his desktop with having two taskbars on his desktop, one is from the Pi and one is from his own machine, all on one monitor. I tried to contact him how he did it but he doesnt seem to be responding. I got a screenshot of it though.
[09:57] <mitchel> http://imgur.com/a/x8QXn
[10:10] <leenux> mitchel, what help do u need
[10:23] <jeanne> Bonjour
[10:24] <jeanne> Je ne trouve pas l'option pour activer la mise à jour dans Kubuntu pour permettre la migration vers la dernière version, à partir de Xenial
[10:24] <jeanne> dans systemsettings
[10:26] <mocxzwp> hello
[10:26] <Bluebell_> jeanne #ubuntu-fr ?
[10:27] <t1_> hi
[10:27] <mocxzwp> hi t1
[10:29] <jeanne> sorry
[11:02] <incognito-dg> why do ubuntu updates use up all my inodes? Don't they have a way to update whithout using up all kinds of inodes unnecessarily? I know if I zero out my root partition and reinstall 14.01 with the current kernel release my inode usage will be back down to less than 40%. This doesn't seem practical.
[11:03] <rakyi> I swapped esc and caps lock using gnome-tweak-tool, but I'm not able to cancel alt-tab window switching or super-w window overview by pressing the caps lock key (remapped to esc), only by pressing the original esc key which also toggles caps lock. Would it help to remap them on a lower level and if yes, how would I do that?
[11:05] <allard-alfa> Hi there)
[11:05] <ducasse> incognito-dg: that sounds odd, a full install on one of my machines takes less than 2%
[11:06] <ducasse> rakyi: use setxkbmap to set caps lock to esc
[11:09] <urain> ls
[11:09] <rakyi> ducasse: tried right now, leads to same behavior
[11:09] <urain> hello
[11:10] <ducasse> rakyi: strange, x should no longer see the caps lock event.
[11:11] <ducasse> rakyi: did you clear the tweak-tool settings first?
[11:13] <rakyi> ducasse: yes, disabled in tweak-tool, tested if caps is back to default and then setxkbmap -option caps:swapescape
[11:13] <incognito-dg> ducasse: that would tell me that most likely you don't use separate partitions for root and home. Usually when my inodes run out there is still 25% or more actual space left on the partition. I know that it does not necessarily need to be that way. I know that when I delete old versions of the kernel it doesn't clean up all the files that it could. So there are unnecessary, unused files left over.
[11:15] <ducasse> incognito-dg: i use separate partitions, but /home is almost empty.
[11:16] <ducasse> incognito-dg: unfortunately this is my only machine with ext4, so i can't compare with any others.
[11:17] <catalin_> Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 16.10 and the wifi on HP Probook 450 g2 is disconnecting at about 5 min intervals. Is there any laptop user who had a similar issue?
[11:17] <catalin__> it did it again :(
[11:18] <incognito-dg> decasse: /home is not using up the inodes. It's root that's using up all the inodes. It's unnecessary files left over from previous kernels that's using up the inodes. I know I'll have to make bigger partitions for root, but I wish ubuntu would use up all the space before it used up the inodes.
[11:19] <rakyi> ducasse: I think tweak-tool and setxkbmap might be using the same underlying mechanism to remap the keys, so do you know if there is any other (lower-level) options?
[11:20] <ducasse> rakyi: unfortunately not, setxkbmap uses xkb, i think that is as low as you can get.
[11:22] <dark_witcher> Hey, guys, how are you?
[11:22] <dark_witcher> I'm trying to install my-sql-5.6 on ubuntu 16.10  but I get an error - Initscripts can't be installed
[11:22] <leenux> ssup dark_witcher
[11:23] <rakyi> ducasse: should I report it as a bug then? if so, where/under which package?
[11:23] <ducasse> dark_witcher: can you pastebin the full message?
[11:23] <dark_witcher> dpkg -l initsctipts gives me that there is no version available
[11:23] <leenux> havent they switched to systemd ?
[11:23] <leenux> hehe
[11:24] <leenux> I dont think there is init on 16.0
[11:24] <leenux> 16.10
[11:24] <dark_witcher> leenux, yeah, there is no init
[11:24] <dark_witcher> i tried downloading a .deb package for 15.04
[11:24] <leenux> are you installing via dpkg?
[11:24] <dark_witcher> but it can't install
[11:24] <leenux> just build from source
[11:25] <ducasse> rakyi: not sure, maybe file it against tweak-tool and someone can decide if that is correct.
[11:25] <leenux> but my opinion is dont go for mysql
[11:25] <sp00k> you guys know of any decent laptop that has good battery life on ubuntu? i want to change my x200 to something with upgraded hardware
[11:25] <leenux> use other alternatives
[11:25] <ducasse> dark_witcher: if you're trying to install a .deb for 15.04 you *will* have problems
[11:25] <dark_witcher> leenux, yeah, problem is that my employer whants me to work with mysql in specifique
[11:26] <leenux> battery life = switching off anything not neccessary .. that includes KDE and GNOME
[11:26] <leenux> hmm ok
[11:26] <dark_witcher> ducasse: tell me about it :D
[11:26] <rakyi> ducasse: ok, thanks for help
[11:26] <ducasse> dark_witcher: pastebin full error, let me take a look.
[11:26] <dark_witcher> sp00k: if you want a good battery life, try with Arch Linux, with no DE
[11:27] <dark_witcher> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:27] <dark_witcher>  mysql-server-5.6 : Depends: initscripts but it is not installable
[11:27] <dark_witcher>                     Recommends: libhtml-template-perl but it is not going to be installed
[11:27] <dark_witcher> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:27] <leenux> https://askubuntu.com/questions/762384/install-mysql-5-6-on-ubuntu-16-04
[11:28] <leenux> do try on a virtual instance first so that you can test and wipe
[11:28] <dark_witcher> ty
[11:28] <dark_witcher> :D
[11:28] <leenux> and i'd suggest 5.7
[11:28] <dark_witcher> it is a fresh install of the budgie remix version of the os, so I don't care that much
[11:28] <leenux> just ask the person why he insists 5.6
[11:29] <dark_witcher> leenus, I'm from Bulgaria, people here are stupid and think they know more than you about stuff that they never heard before...
[11:29] <ducasse> dark_witcher: there is no mysql-server-5.6 for 16.10, only 5.7
[11:30] <ducasse> dark_witcher: also, we don't support budgie
[11:30] <leenux> dark_witcher, hmm ok
[11:30] <dark_witcher> ducasse: thanks, leenux  told me already :D
[11:31] <dark_witcher> leenux, the interesting thing is that I was running mint 18 witch is based on ubuntu 16.04 till yesterday and had no problems on it :D
[11:32] <leenux> dark_witcher, well they have their own repositories .. so dont expect things to work everywhere
[11:32] <incognito-dg> dark_witcher: is there a specific reason you want mysql 5.6? Can you use 5.7?
[11:33] <dark_witcher> leenux, you are right, for the most part it does doe, that is why I prefer Linux OS to Windows :D
[11:33] <incognito-dg> dark-witcher: Oh, I just noticed someone already asked you that. My screen was scrolled up.
[11:33] <dark_witcher> incognito-dg, my client/boss asked for it
[11:33] <leenux> dark_witcher,  you are comparing apples to oranges ;)
[11:34] <dark_witcher> incognito-dg, no prob :)
[11:34] <dark_witcher> leenux, yes I am xD
[11:34] <leenux> dark_witcher, besides i'm really allergic to wondoze
[11:35] <dark_witcher> leenux, but the same goes with Deb/Ubuntu based distributions - for the most part it all works :D
[11:35] <incognito-dg> dark_witcher: does you client have a legitimate reason to want 5.6, or do they even know why the want 5.6?
[11:35] <dark_witcher> leenux, actually due to gaming reasons I'm dual-booting with windows 10 and it is actually decent
[11:35] <incognito-dg> they
[11:36] <dark_witcher> incognito-dg, no, they don't that is why I'm now installing 5.7
[11:36] <dark_witcher> incognito-dg, to be honest I didn't even know that 5.7 is out
[11:37] <leenux> dark_witcher, yeah many people keep an offline wondoze box for gaming only
[11:37] <leenux> dark_witcher, do you speak english in bulgaria? your english seems good
[11:38] <dark_witcher> leenux, it ain't good for anything else, although with steam being the way it is now and wine supporting newer windows packages, I can play all the games I play in linux
[11:38] <dark_witcher> (except The Witcher 3 and Dragon Age 3)
[11:39] <leenux> yeah I played a few on wine .. and you wont belive some worked better !!
[11:39] <dark_witcher> leenux, no, we speak Bulgarian :D thanks, I've studied it for 14 years :D
[11:39] <leenux> dark_witcher, ok .. good for you :)
[11:39] <dark_witcher> leenux, StarCraft 2 works better on wine for me than in Windows
[11:41] <cfoch> hello
[11:41] <leenux> dark_witcher,  I dont game much now , but splinter cell and vegas 6 worked ok  on 14.04
[11:41] <cfoch> I want to create a Ubuntu USB
[11:41] <cfoch> dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb
[11:41] <cfoch> is it okay that way?
[11:42] <cfoch> Merry Christmass, btw :)
[11:42] <cfoch> *Christmas
[11:42] <cfoch> :)
[11:43] <dark_witcher> leenux, not a big fan on either of them :D, more of an RTS/Moba gamer :)
[11:43] <dark_witcher> leenux, thanks for the help, again and Merry Christmas :)
[11:43] <leenux> dark_witcher, no probs ;) MC to you as well
[11:45] <ducasse> cfoch: if sdb is your usb, yes :) put bs=4M at the end, though
[11:45] <cfoch> why bs=4M ?
[11:45] <rakyi> ducasse: I found a workaround: https://github.com/oblitum/caps2esc
[11:45] <ducasse> cfoch: speeds it up
[11:45] <cfoch> ducasse: do I need to format?
[11:45] <cfoch> before
[11:46] <ducasse> cfoch: no, you overwrite the entire device
[11:49] <leenux> cfoch, bs=block size
[11:50] <leenux> cfoch,  also run sync at the end of the command
[11:51] <leenux> cfoch, https://nixalley.blogspot.in/2013/08/making-bootable-pen-drive-in-one-command.html
[11:53] <incognito-dg> dark_witcher: wow I didn't know wine had come so far these days. Have you ever tried running Photoshop or PS creative suite in linux or ubuntu?
[11:53] <cfoch> why sync? I did without sync. It does not work.
[11:54] <cfoch> sorry, I like to know the reason why I execute certain command
[11:54] <FinalX> sync exits after all data has been succesfully written to all devices, incl. the flash drive
[11:54] <FinalX> so you'll be sure that all data was done writing before you unplug it
[11:55] <FinalX> OS will often cache writes, so otherwise it might not be done when you unplug it
[11:56] <leenux> yup
[11:57] <guardianL_> gtk-theme-config ftw
[11:57] <leenux> cfoch, try it again follow the link i sent
[11:58] <leenux> cfoch, also, you have to select the first boot device on BIOS
[11:58] <xXEoflaOEXx> A m
[11:58] <xXEoflaOEXx> And make sure you have selected USB b
[11:58] <cfoch> yes, i did that
[11:58] <galex-713> Hi
[11:59] <galex-713> Did anyone tested 3D screens under GNU/Linux?
[12:00] <xXEoflaOEXx> Reboot from USB, and if it says "No operating system" or something similar, you did not make the USB bootable.
[12:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> galex-713, Did you mean Compiz?
[12:01] <galex-713> no I mean 3d stereoscopy
[12:01] <galex-713> especially passive 3d stereoscopy
[12:02] <cfoch> no, my bootable usb wont work
[12:02] <xXEoflaOEXx> galex-713, No, I did not test that.
[12:02] <galex-713> Ok so did anyone tested 3D stereoscopy under GNU/Linux? :/
[12:02] <xXEoflaOEXx> cfoch, Did the message "No bootable device" or something similar appeared?
[12:03] <cfoch> error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found
[12:03] <cfoch> but I think that is the message after passing to read the hard disk with my damaged ubuntu partition
[12:04] <incognito-dg> leenux: I have a new drive with windows 10 on it. I am going to dual boot it with ubuntu, but I want to preserve the windows 10 boot system. Could I use a same or similar command to, say, re-deploy that windows installation onto a 200 Gig partition?
[12:05] <leenux> incognito-dg, resize the windows partition and install linux on the "free space" such created
[12:06] <fif> hey friend :)
[12:06] <fif> my friend's ubuntu has been fucked up somehow and he want to save his files, so I suggested him to enter safe mode and copy them to DOK, but it appears that in safe mode, it does not listening or identifying the DOK
[12:06] <leenux> cfoch, did you follow the instruction in the link?
[12:06] <fif> [14:05] <fif> any advices?
[12:06] <cfoch> yes
[12:06] <leenux> cfoch, then maybe your ISO is corrupt
[12:07] <leenux> check it with the md5 sum
[12:07] <cfoch> how can I know that?
[12:07] <VIkram> hi
[12:07] <leenux> md5 hash
[12:07] <leenux> you will get the md5 hasg from the server you have downloaded
[12:07] <VIkram>  Ignoring file '20auto-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[12:07] <leenux> * hash
[12:07] <cfoch> md5sum right?
[12:07] <leenux> yup
[12:07] <cfoch> a29c67e8c69ef0097a7466a1a07e7f56
[12:07] <VIkram> hello
[12:08] <leenux> run md5sum filename.iso
[12:08] <leenux> it should match with the one provided with the server
[12:08] <leenux> by the server
[12:09] <VIkram> i install 16.10
[12:09] <VIkram> but not my scanner is not working
[12:09] <VIkram> and also not installed
[12:09] <incognito-dg> leenux: yes, I know how to do that, but I want to preserve the windows boot system. (I forget what they call it) When I resize the partition and install ubunto in the free space, grub will overwrite the windows boot system. So I want to create a separate drive to clone windows onto it in order to preserve the windows boot system. Can I do that with dd?
[12:09] <VIkram> when i try to install it shows error
[12:09] <cfoch> :=
[12:09] <cfoch> :)
[12:10] <cfoch> I think that is the problem
[12:10] <VIkram> hello any one here
[12:11] <VIkram> hi
[12:11] <VIkram> need hel
[12:11] <VIkram> need help
[12:11] <incognito-dg> VIdram: ask away
[12:11] <cfoch> this is strange, I used hexdump and it has only zeros
[12:11] <leenux> incognito-dg, i dont use win 1 but AFAIK, grub will identify the windows install and make a menu entry
[12:11] <VIkram> hello my 16.10 is not working propelly
[12:12] <VIkram> properly
[12:12] <leenux> cfoch, do the mdsums match?
[12:12] <incognito-dg> VIdram: describe the problem
[12:12] <cfoch> leenux:  it doesn't
[12:13] <incognito-dg> VIkram: describe the problem
[12:13] <leenux> cfoch, your iso is either corrupt or worse tainted
[12:13] <VIkram> incognito: when  want to scan the document it shows that driver not install but when i install then is shows error
[12:14] <leenux> cfoch, that dosent look good .. use a new iso and always get it from the official repos
[12:14] <leenux> VIkram, what document?
[12:14] <incognito-dg> VIkram: What printer are you using?
[12:14] <VIkram>  and red circle with white - in that on the top bar of my desktop
[12:14] <VIkram> hp
[12:14] <VIkram> HP desket 1050
[12:15] <VIkram> incognito-dg:
[12:15] <VIkram> incognito-dg: HP desket 1050
[12:15] <VIkram> incognito-dg: earlier on 16.04 it work well
[12:16] <incognito-dg> VIkram: was the ubuntu printer tool able to discover the printer?
[12:17] <VIkram> incognito-dg: yes for printer and for scanner it ust show drivewr not found
[12:17] <cfoch> leenux, thank you
[12:17] <VIkram> incognito-dg: yes for printer and for scanner it just show drivewr not found
[12:17] <cfoch> Feliz Navidad
[12:17] <leenux> cfoch, np ;)
[12:18] <leenux> VIkram, use the driver closest to the model
[12:18] <VIkram> how
[12:18] <leenux> dont auto detect .. choose the driver manually
[12:18] <incognito-dg> VIkram: Sorry, but your answer seems to contradict itself. So are you saying that the ubuntu printer tool was unable to detect your printer?
[12:18] <graingert> !question
[12:19] <incognito-dg> VIkram: also you may be able to find an ubuntu driver from the manufacture. I don't know about hp, but I know epson makes good drivers for linux/ubuntu
[12:20] <VIkram> incognito-dg: its detect the printer but not printing even not the test page
[12:20] <ubuntu059> moin leute
[12:20] <VIkram> incognito-dg: Error broken count >0
[12:21] <ubuntu059> jemand ne idee wie ich unter ubuntu 16.10 mein lappi mit dem router mittels wps push button verbinde über terminal
[12:21] <ubuntu059> kenne die parameter nicht mehr und google scheinbar auch nicht^^
[12:22] <incognito-dg> VIkram: are you using 16.10 now?
[12:23] <ubuntu059> jemand ne idee wie ich unter ubuntu 16.10 mein lappi mit dem router mittels wps push button verbinde über terminal
[12:23] <ubuntu059> kenne die parameter nicht mehr und google scheinbar auch nicht^^
[12:23] <VIkram> incognito-dg:yes
[12:23] <VIkram> incognito-dg: yes
[12:23] <ubuntu059> ??
[12:24] <ubuntu059> english??? no german?
[12:24] <VIkram> incognito-dg:  i upgrade to 16.10 from 16.04
[12:25] <ubuntu059> I`ve a question about ubuntu
[12:25] <leenux> ask
[12:25] <ubuntu059> what ist the parameter for ubuntu about my laptop to connect to my router with wps push button methoe about my terminal
[12:25] <ubuntu059> I´ve forget it+
[12:26] <ubuntu059> wps supplicant or so
[12:27] <ubuntu059> you know what I want??? laptop connect with router about wps push button methode in terminal with parameter
[12:29] <leenux> WPS is insecure
[12:29] <leenux> turn it off
[12:30] <ubuntu059> nooo I say me the code pls
[12:30] <ubuntu059> it is for my work
[12:31] <ubuntu059> I mean this wpa_cli wps_pbc ...thx ^^
[12:34] <ukernyanz> hi everyone, i have some problems with applications which uses Breeze icons or other kde icons sets under unity. Even if a choose another icons, after an application restart, icons are still in "Adwaita" icon set. When I log to the plasma desktop, everything works fine. Can you help me to solve the problem?
[12:39] <incognito-dg> VIkram: you might be able to fix it with this command: sudo apt-get install hp-ppd printer-driver-hpijs hpijs-ppds hplip printer-driver-hpcups hplip-data hplip-dbg hplip-doc hplip-gui djtools
[12:44] <bombue> hi all!
[12:56] <sdsdsd> hi, ive installed Lubuntu on a inspiron mini (which is like an eee) but resolution seems not fit the screen monitor, how do i adjust the settings to fit monitor size?
[12:57] <nuno_nunes> sdsdsd, is a graphical card is?
[12:58] <sdsdsd> what do you mean? what graphic card is? i have no idea, but it seems its related to gma500 or smthing
[12:58] <nuno_nunes> wait a moment
[12:59] <nuno_nunes> version lubuntu is?
[12:59] <nuno_nunes> sdsdsd, view: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2269341
[13:03] <sdsdsd> nuno_nunes: i think its 14.04
[13:03] <sdsdsd> anyway i dont think i need to install drivers as they came built-in
[13:03] <sdsdsd> i just want to adjust the proper settings to be able to work
[13:05] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: I'm not familiar with lubuntu, but can you find Applications >  System Tools > System Settings > Displays then click on the Resolutions dropdown. Does it give you any choices. Try the different resolutions.
[13:09] <eka> hi all
[13:09] <eka> anyone knows why when copying big files to usb stick the system goes to CPU Usage > 6 and becomes unusable till the copy finish? doesn't happen in other OSes with same flash stick
[13:10] <incognito-dg> eka: are you using an old computer?
[13:11] <eka> incognito-dg: sorry, no, i5 6th gen 16gb ram 1tb HDD
[13:11] <eka> incognito-dg: assembled this PC some months ago
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> i use indicator-cpufreq to prevent my CPU from going in overdrive
[13:11] <eka> MonkeyDust: how do you prevent with an indicator?
[13:11] <Taken> how i connect to deffirent irc using xchat
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> eka  it lets you set the cpu speed
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> it's interactive
[13:13] <incognito-dg> MonkeyDust: does it let you set cpu speed per application?
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> incognito-dg  no
[13:13] <eka> well I could do the copy via shell and use nice?
[13:14] <incognito-dg> Taken: #join
[13:15] <eka> incognito-dg: do you meant /join?
[13:20] <incognito-dg> eka: yes... been a long time
[13:20] <incognito-dg> Taken: /join correction
[13:21] <leenux> sup ppl
[13:21] <warrshrike> does ifconfig give the external ip?
[13:21] <leenux> warrshrike, no
[13:21] <warrshrike> Okay so. I'm trying to ssh into my work pc running ubuntu
[13:21] <warrshrike> im currently accessing with teamviewer
[13:22] <warrshrike> but id prefer ssh
[13:22] <leenux> ok
[13:22] <warrshrike> the internet infrastructure is complicated with nats and what not so im not sure if the machine has static external ip
[13:22] <warrshrike> how can i check?
[13:23] <leenux> wont have
[13:23] <leenux> you can check by pinging the IP address of that machine
[13:23] <leenux> mostly it will have to be port forwarded from your souters side
[13:24] <leenux> routers
[13:24] <warrshrike> hmm the router stuff is a big enterprise network with 1000's of machines that'l be hard
[13:24] <warrshrike> i google my public ip on remote machine and tried that but i cant ping it
[13:24] <warrshrike> ssh says ssh: connect to host 110.93.234.9 port 22: Connection refused
[13:25] <leenux> u need to revesit your basics
[13:25] <leenux> ut IP is not important
[13:25] <leenux> the other IP where sshd is running is important
[13:25] <\9> warrshrike: if you get connection refused then your ssh server is not running
[13:25] <\9> or it's not running on that port
[13:26] <warrshrike> leenux: im talking about the other ip -___-
[13:27] <BluesKaj> A very Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it :-)
[13:27] <leenux> are u from pakistan?
[13:27] <warrshrike>  /9 how can I make sure its running? i installed ssh from apt-get
[13:27] <\9> warrshrike: did you install openssh-server?
[13:28] <warrshrike> leenux: yeah how can you tell my ip?
[13:28] <\9> warrshrike: ssh client and server come in separate packages
[13:28] <\9> warrshrike: i'd also recommend installing sshguard with it
[13:28] <leenux> if you cant ping it you wont be able to connect
[13:28] <leenux> you must be having firewalls
[13:28] <\9> but he's getting "connection refused"
[13:28] <\9> so he's getting through
[13:28] <\9> but there's no ssh server
[13:29] <leenux> can he ping it?
[13:29] <\9> ping uses a different protocol than ssh
[13:29] <warrshrike> yeah i think its worth a shot
[13:29] <leenux> nc -z ip port
[13:29] <\9> especially in complex networks such as in workplaces it may only allow ssh through
[13:29] <leenux> netcat
[13:29] <warrshrike> okay installing
[13:30] <warrshrike> open ssh server is already installed
[13:31] <warrshrike> leenux: not response from that command
[13:33] <leenux> nc -z ip port ; echo $?
[13:34] <warrshrike> estart: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[13:34] <warrshrike> i cant restart ssh server on target machine
[13:34] <warrshrike> what gives?
[13:34] <warrshrike> leenux: still no output
[13:34] <leenux> nc -z ip port ; echo $?
[13:34] <warrshrike> leenux: still no output
[13:34] <yao_ziyuan> a bug in ubuntu 16.10 makes me believe its software is not mature enough, so i have been staying with 15.10. can any ubuntu 16.10 user tell me if this bug still exists? plug in a mobile hard disk, create a temporary file on it, move the file to trash using File Manager (Nautilus). the bug is that the Trash won't show the deleted file.
[13:34] <leenux> it has to give either 1 or 0
[13:35] <warrshrike> eh maybe its deciding what to give?
[13:35] <leenux> i hope you are specifying the Ip address and the port
[13:35] <leenux> for ex
[13:36] <leenux> nc -z  110.93.234.9 22 ;  echo $?
[13:37] <warrshrike> yesp
[13:38] <warrshrike> i am
[13:38] <warrshrike> should i try changing port to 443?
[13:38] <warrshrike> maybe itl confuse the firewall if theres any
[13:38] <leenux> it has to give 0 or 1
[13:38] <warrshrike> it gave 1
[13:38] <warrshrike> ti gave 1!
[13:38] <leenux> that means ther is no server running on 22 or it cant reach it
[13:39] <warrshrike> i think there is no server running
[13:39] <warrshrike> because i tried
[13:39] <warrshrike> sudo restart ssh
[13:39] <warrshrike> and it said
[13:39] <leenux> k
[13:39] <warrshrike> estart: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[13:39] <warrshrike> what do you think?
[13:40] <\9> try sudo service sshd restart
[13:41] <warrshrike> I did do sudo...
[13:42] <\9> ...
[13:42] <warrshrike> okay that works
[13:42] <warrshrike> but sudo restart ssh still give error even after that
[13:42] <\9> sudo restart ssh is not how you restart ssh.
[13:43] <warrshrike> oh i was following stack overflow
[13:43] <rommel> 16.04? systemd now isnt it
[13:43] <warrshrike> tried changing the port to 443 didnt work ssh: connect to host 110.93.234.9 port 443: Connection refused
[13:44] <\9> my guess is your ip is wrong
[13:44] <sdsdsd> incognito-dg: nuno_nunes: but whats the proper resolution for a netbook like an inspiron mini?
[13:44] <warrshrike> i got the ip by googling my ip on the remote machine
[13:45] <\9> maybe your outside connection goes to some other computer
[13:45] <sdsdsd> i think this is a bios issue, sometimes pc bios boots with good resolution other times not
[13:45] <\9> there could be any number of routers in between
[13:45] <warrshrike>  \9 well teamviewer works
[13:45] <warrshrike> isnt there some similar ip agnostic solution for ssh
[13:46] <\9> try do: ssh localhost -p 443 on the remote machine
[13:46] <\9> can you connect to the remote machine on the remote machine?
[13:46] <warrshrike> connection refused
[13:47] <warrshrike> nope
[13:47] <\9> then your ssh is not running on that port
[13:47] <warrshrike> also changed port back to 22..
[13:47] <warrshrike> so how can fix it? sshd_config says it is 22 indeed
[13:47] <\9> then it's 22
[13:47] <\9> try ssh localhost
[13:48] <warrshrike> yeah i did that
[13:48] <warrshrike> it says
[13:48] <warrshrike> connection refused
[13:48] <\9> is your ssh running at all?
[13:48] <EriC^> warrshrike: try netstat -tuln
[13:49] <warrshrike> well how can i know?
[13:49] <\9> because you definitely should be able to connect locally to your ssh server if it was running
[13:49] <EriC^> warrshrike: try netstat -tlp
[13:49] <warrshrike> EriC^: I got a list of ips
[13:50] <warrshrike> I got a list of ports now
[13:50] <EriC^> any ssh?
[13:50] <warrshrike> http, https, 5939 and :domain
[13:50] <warrshrike> nope
[13:50] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: 1024 x 600
[13:51] <warrshrike>  \9 and EriC^ so i guess it isnt running since i cant localhost connect it
[13:51] <warrshrike> how can i make it run?
[13:51] <EriC^> warrshrike: try sudo iptables -L
[13:52] <\9> sudo service sshd start
[13:52] <EriC^> *ssh ^
[13:52] <warrshrike> EriC^: got three lines which say chain
[13:52] <warrshrike> \9 i did run that...
[13:52] <EriC^> does it say accept for the incoming connections?
[13:53] <warrshrike> EriC^: yep
[13:53] <Guest11527> hello
[13:56] <andywork> hey whats up with unity-panel-service using big chunks of memory 16.10?
[13:56] <nuno_nunes> sdsdsd, this a change this file
[13:56] <nuno_nunes> lol
[13:56] <sdsdsd> nuno_nunes: i already change grub file
[13:56] <sdsdsd> it not works well
[13:56] <warrshrike> any other ideas?
[13:56] <warrshrike> or is there no way?
[13:56] <sdsdsd> i think this is related to BIOS or smthing
[13:57] <EriC^> warrshrike: try grep -i port /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[13:57] <sdsdsd> eg. sometimes netbook boots with proper settings other times not
[13:57] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: are you still talking about the resolution problem?
[13:57] <sdsdsd> yes
[13:57] <warrshrike> EriC^: it says 22
[13:57] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: it sounds like you may have to run the xranr command
[13:58] <sdsdsd> not sure if its the resolution or other problem like window not fitting screen monitor
[13:58] <warrshrike> i think the config is alright but ssh server just isnt running
[13:58] <warrshrike> strange
[13:58] <sdsdsd> yes i already try to use xrandr, but it seems that i solve nothing
[13:59] <sdsdsd> g2g now
[13:59] <sdsdsd> ill b back later
[13:59] <EriC^> warrshrike: try sudo systemctl status ssh
[14:01] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: did you tell xrandr the resolution of your screen with the with the --newmode flag?
[14:01] <warrshrike> it seems to be running
[14:01] <warrshrike> green dot
[14:02] <warrshrike> Active: active (running)
[14:02] <warrshrike> EriC^:
[14:02] <EriC^> warrshrike: does it say which port at the bottom?
[14:03] <warrshrike> Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 443. 00-MT sshd[21415]: Server listening on :: port 443.
[14:03] <warrshrike> I did change it 443 then changed it back to 22
[14:03] <sdsdsd> no incognito-dg
[14:04] <warrshrike> okay so i can connect to ssh localhost -p443 now
[14:04] <warrshrike> EriC^:
[14:04] <sdsdsd> i think that resolution is fine but screen its not ajdusting to monitor size
[14:04] <warrshrike> Now how to connect from remote machine?
[14:08] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: the command will look something like this: xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2040 22408 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120  -hysnc +vsync
[14:08] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: but you have to get that command by running xrandr
[14:08] <warrshrike> EriC^:
[14:09] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: and you will also have to run xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1920x1080_60_00"
[14:09] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: you probly want to put those commands in a bash file until you figure out how to add it to the config files.
[14:10] <Plushwolf> Hi. How can I get my AMD Radeon R9 M275X to work?
[14:11] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: those commands would work for some screens with a resolution of 1920x1080
[14:11] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: of course yours would be different
[14:15] <cfoch> hi
[14:15] <Plushwolf> Hi. How can I get my AMD Radeon R9 M275X to work?
[14:15] <cfoch> I have tried unetbootin, dd if=pathof.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync
[14:15] <cfoch> nothing works
[14:16] <cfoch> nothing makes my USB to boot Ubuntu
[14:16] <cfoch> any Idea to make my USB bootable?
[14:18] <RichW> Plushwolf, get linux driver from package manager or from http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/linux
[14:19] <Plushwolf> RichW: I've already tried them, they doesn't wor
[14:19] <Plushwolf> k
[14:19] <ukernyanz> hi everyone, i use qt5ct to configure qt5 apps under unity. I put "export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME="qt5ct" " in ~/.profiles . but with that configuration I don't have globalmenu with qt5 apps. How can i use qt5ct (or configure qt5 apps) and have globalmenu enable in qt5 apps?
[14:20] <RichW> Plushwolf, Does the open source driver support 3D on it at all?
[14:20] <Plushwolf> RichW: My card doesn't work
[14:20] <Plushwolf> So I can't do anything with it
[14:22] <RichW> Plushwolf, for emergencys you can turn modesetting off, to get a low resoloution display up. Add nomodeset to grub boot menu.
[14:22] <RichW> Plushwolf, sorry I cant be of much help, it takes some trial and error to get your display working.
[14:23] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: you need to run this command in your terminal:  cvt 1024 600 60
[14:23] <Plushwolf> RichW: I've tried everything and nothing works :(
[14:23] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: then use the output of that command to tell xrandr what your terminal size is
[14:25] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: make a folder called bin in your home folder and put a file called res in that bin folder and make it executable.
[14:27] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: then put the two xrandr command in the res file with the output of the cvt command according to this forum post: https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1313849.html
[14:28] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: once you have done that you can type res in your terminal and you screen will display at the correct resolution
[14:29] <incognito-dg> sdsdsd: you can configure your computer to do that automatically every time you start up, but you'll have to do a google search to find out how, because at this point in time I don't know how to do it.
[14:31] <demo> hello, is there any advantage of using Ubuntu than Debian. Because, Ubuntu is based on Debian. Isn't it?
[14:31] <warrshrike> EriC^: I used this command to get my external ip dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com
[14:31] <warrshrike> I can ping it
[14:31] <warrshrike> but ssh says connection refused
[14:31] <warrshrike> though i can ssh to localhost
[14:32] <demo> i am new to linux
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> demo  great ad welcome, ask your ubuntu questions here
[14:33] <incognito-dg> demo: ubuntu is more user friendly and it will come with more commonly used applications installed out of the box. Also you will find a bigger user community which makes finding answers to questions and problems easier.
[14:34] <demo> ok
[14:36] <demo> any other advantages
[14:37] <EriC^> warrshrike: maybe a firewall or router is blocking it?
[14:37] <warrshrike> hmm wouldnt it say timed out then
[14:37] <incognito-dg> demo: every distro has it's advantages. Ubuntu is supposed to be designed for work flow.
[14:37] <warrshrike> instead of refused EriC^
[14:38] <EriC^> warrshrike: i've no idea
[14:38] <EriC^> i think it would depend on the firewall
[14:39] <EriC^> warrshrike: do you have a router?
[14:39] <demo> should I go for Ubuntu or its resoubs
[14:39] <demo> respins
[14:39] <warrshrike> on remote end? no its a complex enterprise network
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> demo  choose what you like most
[14:40] <demo> ok
[14:40] <demo> thanks
[14:40] <incognito-dg> demo: you asked for advantages over Debian, but it also has advantages which come with just about every linux distro such as security, free cutting edge software and the command line, but the command line is also available in mac and there are programs that are supposed to emulate the command line in windows.
[14:40] <EriC^> warrshrike: does /var/log/auth.log mention anything?
[14:41] <demo> which one
[14:41] <incognito-dg> demo: every one
[14:41] <demo> which distro also has advantages
[14:42] <demo> ok
[14:43] <warrshrike> EriC^: yeah a bunch of stuff
[14:44] <incognito-dg> demo: every disto has it's advantages and is configured to specialize in some way or another. Some distros, such as ubuntu and mint (which is based on ubuntu) are geared to specialize as desktop work stations.
[14:44] <ukernyanz> Please can someone help me?
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> ukernyanz  start with a questio
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> n
[14:45] <EriC^> warrshrike: about ssh?
[14:45] <incognito-dg> ukernyanz: is this your first time? you must be new. New people say things like "Please can someone help me?"
[14:46] <warrshrike> EriC^: it mentions those localhost connections i made
[14:46] <ukernyanz>  hi everyone, i use qt5ct to configure qt5 apps under unity. I put "export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME="qt5ct" " in ~/.profiles . but with that configuration I don't have globalmenu with qt5 apps. How can i use qt5ct (or configure qt5 apps) and have globalmenu enable in qt5 apps?
[14:46] <ukernyanz> No I asked for help before, since one hour
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> ukernyanz  ok, then simply hit the up arrow every 15 minutes or so, to repeat your question, until someone enters who can help
[14:48] <incognito-dg> ukernyanz: okay, because it's better to just ask the question.
[14:48] <ukernyanz> MonkeyDust,  ok thanks
[14:50] <ukernyanz> My real problem is that I whant to integrate Qt5 apps under unity. whith the ability to configure them
[14:52] <incognito-dg> demo: 75 percent of all websites are run in linux and many of those are in ubuntu. So that should tell you that there are many advantages to ubuntu. Google's database runs in linux. Those are some things that there are many really big advantages to using either linux or ubuntu. Otherwise google wouldn't run their database with it. Linux is world class and so is ubuntu.
[14:53] <incognito-dg> demo: show
[15:17] <incognito-dg> isn't this chat room world wide? I guess all the elves have gone out to steal presents from all the little kids.
[15:21] <xk051> the internet is the wonder of our age. it's bringing enlightenment to the world, although sometimes we dont like what this light reveals. it is built laregly upon this softwared. which is, btw, free. and it's sustaining. this is no mean feat. thanks, santa!
[15:23] <xk051> and thank you to all the cdevalopers, and fans, and supporterrs, and what diety there may be that has made it possible and given me sufficient life to see it.
[15:24] <xk051> and that's about all that i have to say about that. :)
[15:34] <ThomasTang> i have a problem! when i uninstall 'sudo apt-get remove indicator',system return error.restart the lonin screen there is no title bar ,have icon no wallpaper and shortcut key is unuseless no maximum bar
[15:35] <ThomasTang> sudo apt-get remove indicator*
[15:35] <ThomasTang> the above was wrong
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> !info indicator
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> ThomasTang  remove which indicator?
[15:38] <ThomasTang> i reinstall indicator*
[15:39] <ThomasTang> but no reaction
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> ThomasTang  'indicator' is not a program, so which indicator is it
[15:40] <ThomasTang> all
[15:40] <ThomasTang> apt-get tab appear
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[15:40] <DesertHaze> HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HArd Core Flood ~HA
[15:41] <Nicmavr> Hi, how can I easily add desktop shortcuts for exe programs without them having that ugly gear icon?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> ThomasTang  so you removed *every* indicator from your system?
[15:42] <ThomasTang> yes
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> ThomasTang  that wasnt smart
[15:42] <ThomasTang> i kown
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> Nicmavr  change the icon in its Properties (use right click)
[15:43] <ThomasTang> right click no rection
[15:44] <ThomasTang> only right click open terminal
[15:44] <joci> hi guys. i kind new at ubuntu and new at using commanid line too. i have a bunch of txt file in one dir. how can i rm all txt file, so do not need to delet one by one
[15:44] <EriC^> joci: they all end in .txt ?
[15:45] <joci> EriC: yes
[15:45] <EriC^> joci: type rm *.txt
[15:45] <EriC^> in the dir
[15:45] <EriC^> cd /dir then rm
[15:45] <joci> EriC: thank you
[15:45] <EriC^> joci: no problem
[15:52] <EriC^> hey bravis
[15:52] <EriC^> how's it going bud?
[15:52] <bravis> Hiya
[15:53] <bravis> Just fin watching the kids open their presents
[15:53] <EriC^> cool
[15:53] <tonyt> Merry Christmas all
[15:53] <bravis> Indeed and a happy new year
[15:53] <BluesKaj>  Merry Christmas tonyt
[15:54] <BluesKaj> hey EriC^
[15:54] <joci> same here happy holidays
[15:54] <bravis> all blessed with tech to be here
[15:55] <The_Venetian> happy holidays to all
[15:57] <bravis> and bty Eric they do make manufactures put the secure boot on any computer that has a Microsoft sticker on it Just so ya know...
[15:58] <EriC^^> bravis: oh yeah?
[15:58] <bravis> sec
[15:58] <joci> i think this is my second monthd that i have been using ubuntu, i switched from windows, i regret only one thing that i did not switch sooner:)
[15:59] <bravis> http://www.howtogeek.com/116569/htg-explains-how-windows-8s-secure-boot-feature-works-what-it-means-for-linux/
[15:59] <bravis> second line
[15:59] <EriC^^> bravis: how's the graphics on that lappy?
[15:59] <EriC^^> i was thinking of getting an msi, was thinking a lowerend leopard pro
[16:00] <bravis> this lapi has a nvidia ge frce 870 or 890 so it is sharp
[16:00] <The_Venetian> Windows has its perks, but I've yet to regret relegating that OS to a VM and use Linux as the main, Joci
[16:00] <EriC^^> joci: you're hooked now :)
[16:00] <bravis> its a MSI gt70 somethin
[16:01] <bravis> i7 with 24gb ram
[16:01] <incognito-dg> and a happy festivus for the restofus
[16:01] <bravis> blahblah
[16:01] <EriC^^> bravis: i heard the nvidia+intel combo can give problems
[16:01] <bravis> did you get a festivus pole
[16:01] <EriC^^> to get the graphics working
[16:02] <bravis> I have never had issues with graphics
[16:02] <EriC^^> bravis: cool, good to hear
[16:02] <ikanobori> The most annoying thing I ran into when having an Intel/Nvidia combo was that the automatic switching from integrated graphics to gpu didn't work it was one or the other set in the BIOS.
[16:02] <The_Venetian> Seconded ^
[16:02] <EriC^^> ikanobori: when was that?
[16:02] <ikanobori> And I was mostly stuck on integrated for less battery use but had to reboot to plugin a second monitor since th HDMI ports were connected to the Nvidia GPU.
[16:02] <ikanobori> 2015 or so.
[16:02] <ikanobori> On a Dell, it was a work laptop so I don't remember the exact model.
[16:03] <EriC^^> ah, that's pretty recent
[16:03] <ikanobori> But, I'm a magnet for any X11/Xorg related issues so don't take that for canon.
[16:04] <joci> The_Venetian: why do you need that, i mean windowds on the VM? cant you jusr regter windowds?
[16:08] <bravis>  If a PC manufacturer wants to place a “Windows 10” or “Windows 8” logo sticker to their PC, Microsoft requires they enable Secure Boot and follow some guidelines.
[16:08] <bravis> Gotta love it.
[16:08] <EriC^^> bravis: that's half the story
[16:09] <bravis> nah thets the first line
[16:09] <EriC^^> lenovo won't let other os boot, you have to actually trick the bios into booting other os, it's hardcoded that way
[16:09] <bravis> lol
[16:09] <ikanobori> From a Microsoft point of view it makes sense. Just as Ubuntu requires things of you if you want to use the Ubuntu name.
[16:09] <bravis> Ubuntu got smart you can create keys there
[16:09] <EriC^^> hp too, there was a scandal with lenovo recently about it
[16:10] <bravis> wow
[16:10] <The_Venetian> Used to deal with that Secure Boot issue at one of my previous jobs.One of many annoying features
[16:11] <tomreyn> anti-features rather
[16:11] <The_Venetian> agreed
[16:11] <zergut> Does using apt-get and Ubuntu Application Center is equal?
[16:11] <zergut> or*
[16:12] <EriC^^> zergut: yeah, the software center is a front end for apt-get
[16:12] <zergut> so it's absolutely same, right?
[16:12] <The_Venetian> Yeah
[16:13] <zergut> okay, thanks
[16:15] <joci> do i understand it right that sudo apt-get update command checks wether is there apatche of the installed programs and apt-get upgrade command will install those updates ?
[16:16] <ikanobori> joci: Simplified that is correct yes.
[16:16] <sruli> what is the difference between "apt -f install" & "apt install -f" ?
[16:17] <EriC^> sruli: no difference
[16:17] <The_Venetian> Nice to know actually.
[16:20] <sruli> i think i once read somewhere there is a difference.. taking your word for it
[16:22] <The_Venetian> Any recommendations for window management? I often switch between Unity and i3
[16:22] <The_Venetian> I like i3, but it is a little frustrating at times
[16:22] <EriC^> sruli: *shrug*
[16:29] <joci> do you guys browsing on command  line like w3m or you rather use chrome or other.?
[16:30] <ikanobori> I'd hazard a guess that there are very few people who use w3m and such as their primary browser.
[16:30] <brainwash> try browsing any modern website with a text-based browser
[16:30] <brainwash> you won't enjoy it
[16:31] <userBart> If it was possible, I would 100% browse text-only.
[16:32] <brainwash> for simple websites it's fine
[16:34] <joci> yep
[16:34] <holycrunchitz> hiyo. I'm setting up my first squid proxy for the eventual purpose of snooping my kid's internet use and blocking porn from ruining her childhood.
[16:35] <holycrunchitz> has anyone here set one of those up?
[16:36] <holycrunchitz> for instance how heavy is the disk usage?
[16:36] <holycrunchitz> would my virtual server i'm using for hosting be able to handle it?
[16:37] <EriC^> !iraq
[16:37] <sruli> holycrunchitz: if its only to manage a few PC's i would say you dont need much resources at all
[16:38] <holycrunchitz> teh documentation makes it sound like disk usage is under 5gb and the cpu usage is small.
[16:39] <profetik777> MERRY CHRISTmAS!
[16:41] <holycrunchitz> sruli thanks as always for your input. :) off i go for my hohoho project.
[16:41] <holycrunchitz> haha vacation is awesome.
[16:41] <holycrunchitz> :)
[16:41] <holycrunchitz> merry holidays all!
[16:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[16:46] <uxfi> Merry Christmas everyone
[16:46] <Rudolph> http://sprunge.us/dMaW hey guys! how can I remove this file that failed to download from the sources?
[16:47] <EriC^> Rudolph: it should be in one of the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:48] <Rudolph> thanks
[16:48] <EriC^> Rudolph: sure
[16:48] <Rudolph> yep that fixed it
[16:48] <Rudolph> merry christmas
[16:49] <EriC^> Rudolph: thanks you too
[16:53] <down> ME
[16:54]  * down sa
[16:54] <sruli> i use [ -f /path/dir/file ] to check if a specific file exists, how can i check if files with a specific extension exists? [ -f /path/dir/*.ext ] returns an error
[16:56] <EriC^> sruli: what error
[16:56] <EriC^> it works here
[16:56] <EriC^> ah i see
[16:56] <EriC^> sruli: ask in #bash
[16:57] <sruli> EriC^:  when i used "path/to/..." i go tna error but '/path/to/..' does not return an error but it returns false, when the file exists
[16:57] <sruli> EriC^: never had any luck there.. will try
[16:57] <EriC^> sruli: you could always use find i guess
[16:58] <EriC^> nevermind
[16:58] <sruli> EriC^: that my plan b, but would like to keep it shorter if poss
[17:00] <ra21vi> sruli, shopt -s globstar; for item in **/*.ext; do ... say_meow($item) ... done
[17:01] <ra21vi> sruli, http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/The-Shopt-Builtin.html
[17:02] <sruli> thanks
[17:02] <DownTekno> hello
[17:03] <Rudolph> I don't think globstar is neccessary for this unless he has to go recursively
[17:04] <Rudolph> for file in /my/folder/*.ext; do stuff_to "$file"; done # should work fine otherwise
[17:06] <pezdispenser> keep having ttf-mscorefonts-installer pop up saying  it cannot install
[17:07] <pezdispenser> http://pastebin.com/TmLnsX6w
[17:08] <not_found> hi
[17:08] <sruli> EriC^: ra21vi: to keep it short i ended up going with "ls /path/to/*.ext > dev/nulll || do something"
[17:14] <Maimster> Merry Christmas everyone.
[17:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Maimster, ok and you
[17:14] <Maimster> Nope, I didn't get the i7 processor.
[17:14] <Maimster> SebthreeBQM10HD: Pretty good.
[17:15] <Maimster> SebthreeBQM10HD: Any interesting problems today?
[17:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no
[17:16] <Maimster> SebthreeBQM10HD: Wow! Santa brought the noobies brains.
[17:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Maimster, not been in here long enough
[17:16] <Maimster> SebthreeBQM10HD: Same here.
[17:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but yes some people will want some Christmas Ubuntu support
[17:17] <Maimster> SebthreeBQM10HD: I'm thinking of getting the Lenovo X1 Carbon for Ubuntu 16.04
[17:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[17:17] <Maimster> SebthreeBQM10HD: The reviews seems promising. People are really enjoy the setup.
[17:17] <nfs> hi, someone with a msm8960 based handset here?
[17:18] <Maimster> nfs: I gotta look that one up...
[17:18] <pezdispenser> can someone please answer this ?  http://pastebin.com/CRPvjSG0
[17:18] <nfs> what you mean maimster?
[17:19] <nfs> that you'll get one?
[17:19] <The_Venetian> I've used the X1 Carbon model. It is quite nice
[17:20] <nfs> i have a razr m (xt907) here and try to install sfos but twrp want flash the cm11 build
[17:37] <OerHeks> nfs, "try to install sfos but twrp want flash the cm11 build" how is this related to ubuntu support?
[17:40] <Przhevalskoye> someone online?
[17:40] <Przhevalskoye> i kinda need help with something
[17:41] <OerHeks> Przhevalskoye, ask, wait and see
[17:43] <pezdispenser> I only come here once I've exhausted my resources,    almost everytime my issue gets solved here when people are active, however it is christmas
[17:43] <Przhevalskoye> well, my school wants us to use Vsphere, but since i am the only one who has Ubuntu MATE, i cant use that. so i downloaded vEMan, but when i do ./vEMan in the folder, it says that the requirement /usr/bin/vcmviewer/ is not available?
[17:43] <Przhevalskoye> it is, happy christmas to you all by the way! i hope you have a wonderfull christmas and a happy new year :D
[17:46] <OerHeks> VMware ESX Manager issue .. maybe #vmware or #ubuntu-server knows the answer
[17:47] <Przhevalskoye> ima check
[17:48] <the_watcher> Hello
[17:48] <Przhevalskoye> hi
[17:49] <dinet_> hi, I ran do-release-upgrade earlier today and now my apache2 will not start. AH00534: apache2: Configuration error: No MPM loaded.
[17:49] <pezdispenser> Przhevalskoye,   lol while searching.. I found your post on ubuntu forums
[17:50] <pezdispenser> Przhevalskoye,  someone replied two mins ago
[17:50] <OerHeks> dinet, upgraded to 16.04??
[17:50] <pezdispenser> Painful as it may be, I always do fresh installs,
[17:51] <dinet> OerHeks: yes
[17:51] <OerHeks> dinet, things change. see releasenotes about php7 .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[17:51] <dinet> OerHeks: I have searched but not found, will read now. thanks
[17:57] <pezdispenser> can someone please answer this ?  http://pastebin.com/CRPvjSG0
[18:07] <joker_> hi
[18:07] <joker_> hello
[18:07] <Przhevalskoye> Hello.
[18:07] <[MAU]LusTiger> test
[18:08] <[MAU]LusTiger> first time IRC!
[18:08] <Przhevalskoye> Welcome.
[18:08] <[MAU]LusTiger> though 32 years old and engineer :)
[18:08] <[MAU]LusTiger> hi
[18:08] <Przhevalskoye> Welcome to the world of IRC.
[18:08] <[MAU]LusTiger> the responsivness of this chat is FUCKING BEAUTIFUL!
[18:08] <[MAU]LusTiger> hi thanks
[18:09] <dinet> OerHeks: not getting any real help there
[18:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !language
[18:09] <[MAU]LusTiger> is there a bitcoin-chat-channel anywhere?
[18:09] <[MAU]LusTiger> or how can i search for that?
[18:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ot
[18:09] <Przhevalskoye> I think there is a #bitcoin
[18:09] <[MAU]LusTiger> (not only on the ubuntu-server)
[18:09] <Przhevalskoye> though im not sure
[18:09] <xangua> !Ali's | [MAU]LusTiger
[18:10] <tomreyn> !alis | [MAU]LusTiger
[18:10] <xangua> Ups
[18:10] <[MAU]LusTiger> hm
[18:11] <tomreyn> [MAU]LusTiger: please note that those !language and !ot texts were directed at you, as well.
[18:14] <ioria> dinet, do you have these two line in apache2.conf ? IncludeOptional mods-enabled/*.load IncludeOptional mods-enabled/*.conf
[18:17] <dinet> ioria: yes but commented out
[18:18] <ioria> dinet, and do you have mpm_prefork.conf@ mpm_prefork.load @ in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ?
[18:19] <dinet> ioria: yes
[18:20] <ioria> dinet, you can try to comment out the two lines and restart apache service
[18:20] <dinet> ioria: in the conf, they are already commented out
[18:20] <ioria> dinet, ah, yes, sy
[18:23] <ioria> dinet, ok so,  add    Include /etc/apache2/mods-available/mpm_prefork.load and  Include /etc/apache2/mods-available/mpm_prefork.conf    in apache2.conf
[18:25] <lugarius> Libertine GUI on aqaris m10, yes or no?
[18:26] <OerHeks> lugarius, better reask in #ubuntu-touch, about libertine
[18:29] <orangeFox> whois Drone
[18:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> STTI0-I0OP-8uio0-=]
[18:37] <ubuntu544> hello merry xmas
[18:37] <dinet> ioria: no go at all
[18:38] <ioria> dinet, the error ?
[18:38] <ubuntu544> I have lubuntu 16.10 installed. i added the jre phoenix ppa, did an apt-get update but i cannot locate any of the pgl files when i try to install. is this because there is none for yakkety et?
[18:38] <dinet> ioria: alot of different ones that I have tried to comment out
[18:39] <OerHeks> ubuntu544, check their launchpad page
[18:39] <vpeter> Merry christmas!
[18:39] <ubuntu544> ty
[18:39] <vpeter> I'm seeking for a help. I'm trying to setup Ubuntu Desktop (or Server) and VNC server on it. I would like to have separate session not visible from main physical display connected. I installed vnc4server and it almost works perfectly. But when open session with vnc viewer I got desktop but top panel doesn't work perfectly. I see Applications and Places menu but I don't see Indicator Applet Complete which means no shutdown/logout menu. Googling finds
[18:39] <ioria> dinet, no, i mean when you added the two lines
[18:39] <vpeter> same problems but I see no solution. Now I'm desperate and would really like to make this thing working.
[18:39] <dinet> ioria: dec 25 19:34:58 kaka apache2[24283]: AH00526: Syntax error on line 215 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[18:39] <dinet> dec 25 19:34:58 kaka apache2[24283]: Invalid command 'Require', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[18:39] <OerHeks> xenial as latest indeed https://launchpad.net/~jre-phoenix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:39] <ubuntu544> darn so i just gotta wait then?
[18:40] <OerHeks> ubuntu544, or contact the maintainer
[18:40] <xangua> Contact the PPA maintainer
[18:40] <ubuntu544> ty
[18:40] <ioria> dinet, can you paste it  ? cat -n /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | pastebinit
[18:41] <ubuntu544> merry christmas everyone!
[18:41]  * ubuntu544 does a christmas cheer dance
[18:44] <dinet> ioria: http://pastebin.com/gSyH3Ezg
[18:49] <ioria> dinet, i don't know why you get an error al 215 line ....
[18:49] <ioria> *at
[18:49] <dinet> ioria: now 156
[18:51] <ioria> dinet, when you upgraded did it give you the choice to replace the apache2.conf ot stay with old one ?
[18:51] <dinet> ioria: no, but it is the old one
[18:51] <ioria> dinet, i see
[18:52] <ioria> dinet, well, removes the last two lines added... not useful
[18:54] <dinet> ioria: now back to no mpm loaded
[18:56] <ioria> dinet, in the worst case you backup apche2.conf and sites-enabled , purge and reinstall apache
[19:02] <Eagle357> hello
[19:03] <Eagle357> where is the place for french
[19:03] <ioria> dinet, and what's the output of   a2enmod authz_host ?
[19:04] <dinet> ioria: Considering dependency authz_core for authz_host:
[19:04] <dinet> Module authz_core already enabled
[19:04] <dinet> Module authz_host already enabled
[19:05] <BluesKaj> !fr | Eagle357
[19:06] <ioria> dinet, a2enmod mpm_prefork
[19:08] <dinet> ioria: already enabled
[19:08] <dinet> Considering conflict mpm_event for mpm_prefork:
[19:08] <dinet> Considering conflict mpm_worker for mpm_prefork:
[19:08] <dinet> Module mpm_prefork already enabled
[19:09] <ioria> dinet, systemctl restart apache2
[19:09] <dinet> ioria: no workie
[19:10] <ioria> dinet, same error about mpm  ?
[19:10] <LinuxNovice> hello, can anybody tell me which distro or DE is suitable for raspberry pi?
[19:10] <dinet> ioria: yes
[19:10] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I've got an asus laptop with ubuntu 14.04. This morning I turned it on. Its been powered off for about a month or so. It can't connect to the network. It isn't picking up the wifi network, and it doesn't detect the network if its directly connected to the router with a cable either.
[19:11] <bobdobbs> If I type 'ifconfig', I can only see the lo interface
[19:11] <sruli> bobdobbs: might it be in flight mode?
[19:11] <Przhevalskoye> @bobdobbs did you try to apt-get update %% apt-get upgrade
[19:11] <Przhevalskoye> ?
[19:12] <bobdobbs>  Sruli: it isn't in flight mode, alas
[19:12] <bobdobbs> Prz: I
[19:12] <bobdobbs> I'll try that
[19:13] <Przhevalskoye> Looks like some outdated drivers of some sort
[19:13] <ioria> dinet, pass
[19:14] <bobdobbs> 'Apt-get' operations return what I'd expect: the computer can't connect to the repo's
[19:14] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, check the FN + wireless key
[19:14] <bobdobbs> Checking FN+wireless...
[19:15] <dinet> ioria: will try and purge apache when I get home again
[19:15] <bobdobbs> FN+wireless and then checking network operations seems to make no difference
[19:15] <ioria> dinet, ok, maybe #apache can solve it
[19:16] <Przhevalskoye> Does it even detect the Wireless card?
[19:16] <dinet> ioria: I will try, floor is too cold now so I'm freezing my feet of and cant concentrate, thanks for the input
[19:16] <ioria> dinet, no prob, good luck
[19:16] <sruli> bobdobbs: whats the output of "sudo service NetworkManager status"
[19:17] <dinet> ioria: thanks
[19:17] <ioria> dinet, ok
[19:17] <bobdobbs> I'm not sure how to check if it detects the card. But I think it does... Ill give you more details in a moment. I'll see what happens if I check the service
[19:18] <bobdobbs> 'NetworkManager: unrecognised service'
[19:19] <bobdobbs> Sorry, the keyboard I'm working with is slow and this irc client is a little clunky
[19:19] <Przhevalskoye> What ubuntu version are you running>?
[19:19] <sruli> bobdobbs: its ubuntu 14.04.. maybe network-manager
[19:19] <idea> hi everyone
[19:19] <Przhevalskoye> hey
[19:20] <Przhevalskoye> @bobdobbs try sudo start network-manager
[19:20] <bobdobbs> 'Unknown job network-manager'
[19:20] <sruli> bobdobbs: whats the output of "sudo service network-manager status"
[19:20] <bobdobbs> That's the return I get for both trying to start the service, and for checking the status
[19:21] <Przhevalskoye> sudo systemc1 start NetworkManager.sevice
[19:21] <Przhevalskoye> try that
[19:21] <sruli> Przhevalskoye: watch the typos
[19:21] <sruli> bobdobbs: ^
[19:21] <Przhevalskoye> oh damn, i see it.
[19:22] <Przhevalskoye> sudo systemct1 start NetworkManager.service
[19:22] <Przhevalskoye> that should do the trick hehe
[19:22] <sruli> Przhevalskoye: still not!
[19:22] <Przhevalskoye> ????
[19:22] <bobdobbs> I don't seem to have the command 'systemct1'
[19:22] <lesshaste> how can I get a jpg from https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/f50222afeca3fef31e0af9036f80ff894311df61 ?
[19:22] <sruli> Przhevalskoye: ^
[19:23] <sruli> bobdobbs: its "systemctl"
[19:23] <bobdobbs> Ah! Of course. Whoops
[19:23] <Przhevalskoye> sruli, damn typos ahaha
[19:23] <bobdobbs> Could that be sysctl?
[19:23] <bobdobbs> I have sysctl but not systemctl
[19:23] <Przhevalskoye> yep
[19:24] <sruli> bobdobbs: as its ubuntu 14.04 it would be on init not systemd so unless you specificaly installed systemd on 14.04 you wont get use of systemctl
[19:25] <sruli> bobdobbs: did you try the command like i suggested with "service"? "sudo service network-manager status"
[19:25] <OerHeks> lesshaste, looks like a SVG
[19:26] <bobdobbs> Sruli: yep. That command returns 'unknown job: network-manager'
[19:26] <vpeter> Seems no one can help with my issue :(
[19:27] <bobdobbs> I have /sbin/sysctl, but not systemctl
[19:27] <tomreyn> dinet: to get output for a pastebin next time you're looking into apache issues: dpkg -l apache2\* | grep ^i; apache2ctl -v; apache2ctl -V; apache2ctl -l; apache2ctl -t; apache2ctl -M; apache2ctl -S; apache2ctl -L; apache2ctl -t
[19:28] <Dinosaurio> Hey
[19:28] <sruli> bobdobbs: try  "sudo service NetworkManager status"
[19:28] <Dinosaurio> Will Unity 8 come by default on Ubuntu 18.04?
[19:28] <bobdobbs> 'Start NetworkManager.service' returns the following:
[19:29] <tomreyn> Dinosaurio: that's 3 releases into the future, i doubt this has been decided, yet.
[19:29] <bobdobbs> 'Sysctl: cannot stat /proc/says/start: no such file or directory'
[19:29] <sruli> bobdobbs: try  "sudo service NetworkManager status"
[19:29] <bobdobbs> Sorry, I have to transpose the return commands by hand into this dinky wee ipad keyboard. So
[19:30] <bobdobbs> 'NetworkManager: unrecognised service'
[19:30] <sruli> bobdobbs: do you have a dir /etc/NetworkManager?
[19:31] <bobdobbs> Yes, that dir exists
[19:31] <tomreyn> sruli: it's "network-manager"
[19:32] <tomreyn> i.e. "sudo service network-manager status"
[19:32] <sruli> tomreyn: that returned "unknown job"
[19:32] <bobdobbs> Both of those variations return 'unknown job'
[19:33] <sruli> bobdobbs: i guess somehow networkmanager was removed somehow, you got to reinstall it
[19:33] <bobdobbs> Hehe... this is interesting, if a little frustrating. I
[19:33] <bobdobbs> I'm far from home. I travelled with this laptop.
[19:33] <tomreyn> sruli: sorry i hadn't read the scroll log yet
[19:34] <bobdobbs> Sruli: therein lies the problem. I can't install anything without network access.
[19:34] <bobdobbs> I wonder if I did remove it? I can't think of why I'd do that.
[19:35] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, 14,04 .. and do you have proposed enabled in sources?
[19:35] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: dpkg -l network-manager\* | grep ^i
[19:36] <sruli> bobdobbs: try to download this file and copy it to the laptop http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7_amd64.deb
[19:36] <sruli> then install it with dpkg
[19:37] <sruli> bobdobbs: to be sure first try what tomreyn suggested ^
[19:38] <bobdobbs> The dpkg output produces a table with several entries
[19:38] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: it lists the network manager packages you currently have installed
[19:38] <bobdobbs> I'm not sure how to read it. Taking a closer look at it...
[19:38] <bobdobbs> Ah
[19:38] <OerHeks> with proposed you might have hit this bug >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/last-upgrade-crashes-network-manager-no-internet-connection-no-applet
[19:38] <sruli> bobdobbs: can you paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:38] <tomreyn> probably not without internet connectivity
[19:38] <bobdobbs> Well, it does show 'network-manager' and some variation, like 'network-manager-gnome'
[19:39] <sruli> tomreyn: lol
[19:39] <bobdobbs> I'm gonna take a look at that thread that oerheks linked to...
[19:39] <Przhevalskoye> hey guys, quick question.
[19:40] <Przhevalskoye> im trying to update my ubuntu mate, but the terminal keeps getting stuck at unpacking Libreoffice-common
[19:40] <mmmmmm> .
[19:42] <bobdobbs> ok
[19:42] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: you can try to do a quick one-time command line based network configuration.
[19:42] <tomreyn> ifconfig -a | grep eth
[19:43] <tomreyn> ^this lists available network interfaces
[19:43] <bobdobbs> I'm not sure how to test to see if I've got that bug. I don't have 'proposed' in my apt source
[19:43] <Przhevalskoye> guys?
[19:43] <tomreyn> pick the one you have the cable attached to
[19:43] <Przhevalskoye> whats a good daily Ubuntu?
[19:43] <bobdobbs> Tomreyn: I've only got the lo interface
[19:44] <bobdobbs> Nothing else there. No eth0. Nothing for wifi
[19:44] <sruli> bobdobbs: i guess your fastest way to resolve without finding what caused it is to try to download this file and copy it to the laptop http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7_amd64.deb
[19:44] <tomreyn> hmm so it looks more lkike a driver issue then
[19:44] <OerHeks> is there windows 10 on that laptop too ?
[19:45] <tomreyn> Przhevalskoye: how do you mean, "a good daily ubuntu"?
[19:45] <bobdobbs> Sruli: before I do that, is there a way to confirm that I dont have network-manager? Or have we already done that?
[19:45] <bobdobbs> Oerheks: no. Just ubuntu.
[19:45] <OerHeks> that might interfere when running with fastboot ( not secureboot )
[19:45] <OerHeks> oh oke
[19:46] <bobdobbs> Tomreyn: how can I confirm a driver issue"
[19:47] <bobdobbs> Wups: back soon. Gotta move the laptop to a power source
[19:47] <sruli> bobdobbs: even if you have, it doesnt seem to be working, what do you have in "/sys/class/net/" dir
[19:47] <Przhevalskoye> Best linux distro for daily use?
[19:47] <bekks> Przhevalskoye: the one you like most.
[19:47] <Przhevalskoye> Debian stable it is then
[19:47] <sruli> Przhevalskoye: depends on the power of the machine and your taste, what do you want versus the power / performance you have / want
[19:47] <bekks> Przhevalskoye: So use it, if you like it.
[19:48] <sruli> Przhevalskoye: on my most powerfull machines i use regular ubuntu on others ubuntu-gnome for taste.. less powerfull mate.. less powerfull lubuntu
[19:48] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: what sruli said, also 'lsmod' - if you are able to identify the kernel module required for your hardware.
[19:49] <Defiance_> kde neon is extremely stable and is my "daily driver" system.
[19:49] <bobdobbs> Srul: a single dir, called 'lo'
[19:49] <bobdobbs> Darn it, laptop out of power. Brb
[19:50] <sruli> bobdobbs: seems like a hardware/driver issue
[19:50] <seifmostafa> hello
[19:50] <sruli> tomreyn: hwat should he grep for in lsmod?
[19:51] <bobdobbs> Thanks for the help guys. I'll be back in about 30 minutes.
[19:51] <bobdobbs> me and my laptop are staying at my sisters place for christmas. Her kids are walking up and want attention
[19:52] <Przhevalskoye> hehe
[19:52] <bobdobbs> Im gonna be the least fave uncle if I don't tend to them :)
[19:52] <Dolmen0> bobdobbs: good luck with them ;)
[19:52] <tomreyn> sruli: nothing really<, it only makes sense if he can look for the driver he needs in the entire output
[19:52] <sruli> i have a feeling its in flight mode
[19:53] <tomreyn> "rfkill list" would tell
[20:08] <sruli> how do i disable updates from command line?
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> sruli  is this useful http://ask.xmodulo.com/disable-automatic-updates-ubuntu.html
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> (2013)
[20:18] <win32> sruli, nano /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic >
[20:18] <win32>     APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "0";
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> that should be easier
[20:28] <caliculk> Hey everyone, happy holidays. I am having some issues getting a new unmanaged VPS to update the kernel from 2.6.32 to a more recent kernel version. The VPS provider uses Ubuntu 15.04 and it is on a OpenVZ. But doing linux-general, or linux-header packages, and then rebooting, it always reboots to the same kernel version.
[20:28] <gt8ost4l> anybody know how to show the graphic icon in the dash as i upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 it disappeared and only showed a blank file icon?
[20:29] <gt8ost4l> for the kchmviewer program sorry
[20:30] <OerHeks> caliculk, see if your vendor has upgraded images
[20:30] <MannyLNJ> Not a Ubuntu question but I need to upgrade my systems ram. Any suggestions on who to go with? I believe my system uses DDR-2 It's a Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H
[20:30] <caliculk> OerHeks they don't appear to. All their repos are pointing to ubuntu official urls
[20:30] <caliculk> Nothing internal.
[20:35] <tomreyn> caliculk: 15.04 isnt supported anymore. which virtualization technology do they use there?
[20:35] <tomreyn> oh openvz you said
[20:35] <caliculk> tomreyn OpenVZ
[20:35] <caliculk> Yeah
[20:35] <caliculk> I am currently in the process of asking them if they have a 16.04 image
[20:35] <tomreyn> well you may run into problems if you upgrade it
[20:35] <caliculk> But, they didn't have it listed for installation, so the answer is probably no.
[20:36] <tomreyn> it looks like you may have picked a bad hosting provider there
[20:36] <OerHeks> if you installed it manually anyway .. http://download.openvz.org/template/precreated/ubuntu-16.04-x86_64.tar.gz
[20:37] <caliculk> It isn't a huge problem to not have ipset, but it would have been helpful to create some ip block lists.
[20:37] <caliculk> I can always use fail2ban to replace it.
[20:38] <tomreyn> caliculk: the problem is if you don'T upgrade you a re running inscure software with known remotely exploitable vulnerabilities.
[20:38] <caliculk> Yeah, I know. I am sorta in a pickle either way
[20:38] <caliculk> Trying to log into their VPS CP but unable to do so right now.
[20:40] <tomreyn> caliculk: if you like we can talk about other hosting options in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:40] <caliculk> Already paid for a full year, so I don't have an option at this moment/nor did a lot of hosting options meet my requirements.
[20:40] <caliculk> I will try to work through this right now.
[20:40] <tomreyn> good luck
[20:41] <caliculk> There we go, they do indeed actually have a 16.04 installer.
[20:41] <caliculk> It just wasn't available during the initial setup
[20:42] <tomreyn> \o/
[20:42] <OerHeks> :-)
[20:45] <bobspy> list
[20:46] <OerHeks> bobspy, here are all torrents http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[20:46] <OerHeks> grinn
[20:47] <caliculk> Alright, yeah, even 16.04 build has this stupid 2.6.32 kernel. :(
[20:47] <caliculk> Any suggestions on just upgrading the kernel, or would that just break everything? :(
[20:48] <Lucuuu> Hello. I have my ubuntu on SSD (/) and i added SWAP and Home to my HDD. If i take out both of them (ssd and hdd) and plug them in other PC, will it break ubuntu ?
[20:48] <OerHeks> iisn't that a VZ thingy, kernel 2.6 ?
[20:48] <OerHeks> patched ofcourse
[20:49] <caliculk> If it is, that really sucks.
[20:49] <caliculk> Is there any way to use ipset on 2.6.32?
[20:49] <caliculk> Because it seems like it is supported based on the documentation, but, it isn't working. :/
[20:50] <teward> caliculk: if you're on an openvz container system, you're limited by what's enabled on the host kernel; ipset might not be enabled for OpenVZ guests, or not supported
[20:50] <teward> this is more or less why I go after KVM VPSes if I need VPSes
[20:51] <caliculk> Yeah, I probably should have gone with KVM. Figured that the VZ would have been able to handle all my needs
[20:52] <GNUtoo> hi, I've installed ubuntu to a partition in an existing LVM VG insside an existing LUKS partition, the initramfs doesn't have /usr/bin/cryptsetup, and I don't know where to look for the ubuntu documentation on encrypted volume, I'm used to other distros though, but there is no /etc/crypttab in the last ubuntu LTS
[20:55] <str8geek> sql server
[20:57] <Lucuuu> Hello. I have my ubuntu on SSD (/) and i added SWAP and Home to my HDD. If i take out both of them (ssd and hdd) and plug them in other PC, will it break ubuntu ?
[21:00] <gt8ost4l> does anybody have problems with kchmviewer in ubuntu 16.04?
[21:00] <xk051> Lucuuu: possibly noy
[21:00] <xk051> Lucuuu: possibly not
[21:01] <Lucuuu> xk051: Is that "i guess" or "im sure" ?
[21:01] <xk051> Lucuuu: the main thing will probably be your video driver
[21:01] <GNUtoo> dpkg -L cryptsetup -> looking at /etc/init/cryptdisks.conf tend to indicate that I need to edit /etc/crypttab
[21:01] <GNUtoo> I'll try to see if that owrks
[21:02] <xk051> Lucuuu: if your video is correctly detected, and the kernel has the driver, you might boot to something you can work in
[21:02] <sruli> GNUtoo: in a luks install i have /etc/crypttab, just create it and "update-initramfs -k all -c
[21:02] <sruli> GNUtoo: you have to put in the uuid of the partition
[21:02] <GNUtoo> thanks
[21:03] <GNUtoo> sruli: I've done that, I'll reboot to see if it works
[21:03] <xk051> Lucuuu: just shooting from the hip, i'd guess 'maybe', because there are a couple issues
[21:03] <GNUtoo> sruli: thanks a lot, it worked
[21:04] <xk051> Lucuuu: your drive uuid might change, but that you can fix with a liveusb and a text editor, and the video driver issue
[21:04] <sruli> GNUtoo: wow fast reboot, but more impressive was the speed of the update-initramfs
[21:04] <Lucuuu> xk051:  If it will be only graphic card issue, ubuntu should use ... my current nvidia driver for my card (if the same family) or the driver that was using first time i installed ubuntu
[21:05] <xk051> Lucuuu: there's also your drive uuids
[21:05] <GNUtoo> sruli: I had already done it, I wanted to verify if it worked without rebooting
[21:05] <xk051> Lucuuu: /etc/fstab, and the like
[21:05] <GNUtoo> sruli: so I was with cpio -idv and such
[21:05] <GNUtoo> but as you said that it was supposed to work, I just rebooted
[21:05] <GNUtoo> reboot are fast with the internal hdd but really slow on usb
[21:05] <root__> hello
[21:05] <root__> this is test
[21:06] <xk051> Lucuuu: so. have a liveusb ready to boot to, so you can fix fstab, and chroot in and get what drivers you need installed
[21:07] <root__> hello
[21:07] <root__> concept10:
[21:07] <root__> ho
[21:07] <xk051> Lucuuu: or, maybe grub.cfg will need to be fixed
[21:07] <root__> patrizia:
[21:07] <root__> hi
[21:07] <Lucuuu> xk051:  well.. first time i installed ubuntu on my pc, i didnt have the nvidia drivers i have right now. somehow it worked..
[21:07] <Lucuuu> xk051:  later i installed nvidia drivers
[21:07] <Lucuuu> xk051:  so maybe when i change graphic card it will load default drivers
[21:08] <xk051> Lucuuu: right. so, what i would do, is get a liveusb ready, put your drives in, then boot to the usb
[21:08] <Lucuuu> xk051:  what kind of drivers?
[21:09] <xk051> from there, find a guide for chrooting in to the fs on the drive and running grub setup and config. then see if it will boot
[21:09] <sruli> is it possible to make a snapshot of running guest libvirt?
[21:10] <Lucuuu> xk051:  problem is ... i will not know what graphic card i will get. I'm going to go to my friends house and plug my hdd&ssd to his pc
[21:10] <xk051> Lucuuu: it's not a permanent install?
[21:11] <xk051> Lucuuu: iow, you'll be putting it back in the original machine afterwards?
[21:11] <Lucuuu> xk051:  right now, im on my PC, where i play, do stuff and other. But i have bad internet connection, so when i want to download many stuff, i go to my friend and plug my hdd in <- thats what i did when i had windows
[21:11] <Lucuuu> xk051:  yes, i will be putting back to my pc
[21:11] <xk051> Lucuuu: oh.
[21:11] <caliculk> teward thanks for letting me know. Hosting provider is now switching it to a KVM based VPS.
[21:12] <Lucuuu> xk051:  its something like this: 1. i want to download something. 2. i go to friends house, plug hdd&ssd in, download. 3. go back home, plug it back
[21:12] <caliculk> Because seriously... 2.6.32 is old. :(
[21:12] <xk051> Lucuuu: ok. well in that case, is it necessary to boot to your os?
[21:13] <Lucuuu> xk051:  i need to log in into steam, so yea :<
[21:13] <Lucuuu> xk051:  ofc it would be easier to get a pendrive, download and copy XD
[21:13] <Lucuuu> xk051:  but its impossible ;P
[21:14] <xk051> Lucuuu: right. so, i'd bring a liveusb
[21:14] <xk051> Lucuuu: right. and a bookmark with a guide for chroot, grub and /etc/fstab
[21:15] <teward> caliculk: not on some systems xD  Glad to have helped though :)
[21:17] <Lucuuu> xk051:  Let me ask the same question, but different way. When i create liveusb, i can choose to "run ubuntu on liveusb". And i can use that ubuntu there. It gets processor, graphic card data and other stuff. But after work, i can run it in different places, with different processors, graphic cards and nothing breaks. Why my ssd+hdd would break?
[21:18] <xk051> Lucuuu: it's been many years since i've tried to boot a configured system on anonymous hardware, so i dont know what all the issues are. these three are key: 1) grub must know where to find the kernel, 2) fstab must have the right uuids for your drives and partitions, xorg/wayland must have the video drivers
[21:18] <xk051> Lucuuu: the liveusb has autodetection setup specifically for that
[21:19] <xk051> Lucuuu: liveusb /expects/ anonymous hardware, drive and partition uuids, and it knows exactly where the kernel is because its bringing it along
[21:22] <hits1911> Is there an alternative to osx's spotlight definition feature for ubuntu? or, is there a dictionary software integrates to OS such that right-clicking highlighed text reveals an option to translation. I know there are extensions for browsers but is it possible to do it in other documents?
[21:23] <Lucuuu> xk051:  ah, that way... grr.. well, i asked my friend and he told me that he unplugged his hdd and when he plugged it in other pc, it worked normally
[21:24] <itsmemario> Hi merry xmas. I'm having lots of problems with ubuntu and derivatives. my system keeps crashing and i don't know what to do
[21:24] <xk051> Lucuuu: it might 'just work' but, you know, 'be prepared' :)
[21:25] <Lucuuu> xk051:  if it doesnt work, i will just cry in corner in my friend's house, i will go home and download it with my poor connection :D
[21:26] <xk051> Lucuuu: bring a liveusb/or livedvd and this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot#Accessing_graphical_applications_inside_the_chroot
[21:26] <itsmemario> any help please i'm looking everywhere online and have not been able to find a solution. it happens specially with browsers.
[21:27] <nagiza> hits1911 There is something like it, in script form i saw it in an article.
[21:28] <xk051> Lucuuu: just, you know, be aware of different version numbers and whatnot
[21:28] <hits1911> nagiza: do you have a link for it?
[21:28] <nagiza> The idea was that you highlight some text and then you can hit a keyboard shortcut and it pops up translated.
[21:28] <nagiza> I am trying to.
[21:29] <joci> itsmemario: which browser do you use ?
[21:30] <nagiza> hits1911: this is it: http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/translate-any-text-you-select-on-your.html
[21:30] <nagiza> i have not tried it but it looks simple enough, i think i'll try and install it now.
[21:31] <hits1911> nagiza: thank you very much.
[21:31] <xk051> Lucuuu: so, for instance, with the method outlined in that guide, /even if your drives will not boot no matter what/ you might *still* be able to run *your* steam with: gksudo chroot /var/chroot steam -DISPLAY=:0.0
[21:31] <itsmemario> joci: i have tried all of them, chromium, epiphany, firefox, chrome... chromiun and flash is the most problematic one. i found out in disabling my intel i5 propietary processor that it goes smoothly and does not freeze that much. but still... :(
[21:31] <itsmemario> joci: i5 propietary processor driver
[21:32] <dinet> tomreyn: thanks, will test that later
[21:32] <Lucuuu> xk051:  will think about it, thanks :)
[21:32] <xk051> Lucuuu: and, in fact, that method might be better overall for your drive than the churning of your config files by doing a native boot
[21:33] <xk051> Lucuuu: your welcome. i used to do that sort of thing quite a bit, but it was a looong time ago when i worked in a shop. idk the newer stuff for sure anymore. good luck.
[21:34] <joci> itsmemario: i dont know mate i dont wanna say stupid things
[21:34] <itsmemario> joci: aww ok no worries
[21:43] <pezdispenser> Garrys Mod !
[21:43] <nagiza> is a great game ?
[21:45] <pezdispenser> I didn't realize it's for linux too, just purchased it on steam
[21:49] <slacko_32342> Wep
[21:49] <Alessiomontesi_> Hi, I'm not a gamer, but sometimes I play ut2004 on that shit of windows. Some time ago I found a linux installer, so I tried it. The problem is that it is very laggy, while in win it run with 60 fps. I think the problem are nouveau drivers but I'm not sure. Can anyone help me please
[21:50] <slacko_32342> i wish i could, but im dumb as a rock :(
[21:50] <GNUtoo> Alessiomontesi_: Try to find tools to measure the performance of your GPU
[21:51] <GNUtoo> Alessiomontesi_: For intel there is intel_gpu_top in intel-gpu-tools
[21:51] <GNUtoo> Another option would be to look at phoronix test suite
[21:51] <GNUtoo> Alessiomontesi_: also the nouveau website has many information
[21:51] <GNUtoo> nouveau.freedesktop.org
[21:52] <GNUtoo> the most comomn cause for performances issues is the lack of support of reclocking
[21:52] <GNUtoo> Many GPUs cards have fans, and in such cases, you do want to do power management
[21:52] <GNUtoo> and that doesn't work accross all GPUs
[21:53] <Alessiomontesi_> Well it is an old geforce 8400 GS but on windiws it can run ut2004 with 60fps
[21:54] <GNUtoo> Reclocking can make your hardware faster, while the tools like intel_gpu_top can instead be used to find software configuration or bugs that makes this particular game on this particular gpu/configuration slow
[21:54] <GNUtoo> Alessiomontesi_: do you have the source code for the game you mentioned?
[21:54] <Alessiomontesi_> Nope, it's closed :D
[21:55] <GNUtoo> ah too bad
[21:55] <GNUtoo> sometimes the engine gets freed after some time
[21:55] <Alessiomontesi_> It is one of best arenas
[21:55] <Alessiomontesi_> Nah
[21:55] <Alessiomontesi_> Epic games can't fail :D
[21:56] <GNUtoo> I personally play free software games (like xonotix), I should try some more though
[21:56] <pezdispenser> xonotic rocks/ nexuiz
[21:56] <GNUtoo> There are newer ones that I didn't try like red eclipse
[21:57] <pezdispenser> eclipse,
[21:57] <Alessiomontesi_> Well, sometimes frees are better but ut2004 is the best arena ever!!
[21:57] <pezdispenser> red eclipse yes
[21:57] <GNUtoo> warsow also looks nice, I should retry it
[21:57] <pezdispenser> played sauerbraten? lol
[21:57] <Alessiomontesi_> I played quake, too
[21:57] <GNUtoo> Alessiomontesi_: it's a matter of taste, better is always very subjective
[21:57] <Alessiomontesi_> But i find ut2004 better :P
[21:58] <GNUtoo> Yes, that's the point, it's subjective
[21:58] <Alessiomontesi_> Nope, that ut2004 is the best fps is not subjective
[21:58] <GNUtoo> When comparing two different things
[21:59] <GNUtoo> oops
[21:59] <Alessiomontesi_> And for sure is better than cod :P
[21:59] <pezdispenser> oh assault cube bud
[21:59] <GNUtoo> If you compare two different things, one might be more adapted for someone and the other better for the other person
[21:59] <Alessiomontesi_> Nope
[22:00] <Alessiomontesi_> Ut2004 is the master arena
[22:00] <Alessiomontesi_> Absolutelly objective
[22:00] <GNUtoo> Many/most people probably find it better/best
[22:00] <GNUtoo> I don't for instance, so it's subjective
[22:00] <Alessiomontesi_> Everyone find it betterrr
[22:01] <Alessiomontesi_> Because you are strange
[22:01] <GNUtoo> It's like art, or dance, you need a jury panel to decide because there is a big subjective part
[22:02] <GNUtoo> Though in such cases there are also objective criterias that are decided upon
[22:02] <Alessiomontesi_> Well if you are a gaming expert you can't say ut2004 is not the best arena ever
[22:02] <pezdispenser> garrys mod...crashing...
[22:02] <GNUtoo> And I'm not (a gaming expert)
[22:02] <GNUtoo> so I'll just continue doing whatever I was doing, bbl
[22:02] <Alessiomontesi_> That's why you don't find it the best arena ever
[22:02] <GNUtoo> unless you want to know more about GPU performances issues
[22:03] <Alessiomontesi_> I'm a linux expert
[22:03] <Alessiomontesi_> You aren't talking with a noob
[22:03] <Alessiomontesi_> I'm DS01, just masked
[22:04] <GNUtoo> I never supposed you were
[22:04] <Alessiomontesi_> Yes you did
[22:04] <GNUtoo> I don't suppose on the Internet, RFC1855
[22:05] <Alessiomontesi_> Wat
[22:09] <slacko_32342> speaking of games. Any good 2d rpg?
[22:09] <Alessiomontesi_> No
[22:09] <GNUtoo> wesnoth is awesome, huge storylines
[22:09] <Alessiomontesi_> GNUtoo: oooooo
[22:10] <Alessiomontesi_> Ut2004 is the only good game
[22:10] <slacko_32342> you never played Allex the Allegator, otherwise you wouldn't say that
[22:10] <GNUtoo> I did, for a short time
[22:11] <GNUtoo> I didn't went far
[22:11] <GNUtoo> The graphics are too old-school for me, frogatto was better in that reguard
[22:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[22:12] <GNUtoo> Recently I played naev, the game is very realistic, not in the graphics, but in the programming (no idea how to explain)
[22:12] <Alessiomontesi_> Hi
[22:12] <Alessiomontesi_> Hi
[22:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Alessiomontesi_, hi hi hi hi
[22:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[22:12] <Alessiomontesi_> Hi
[22:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[22:12] <Alessiomontesi_> Hi
[22:12] <GNUtoo> Still, beside that, pirates are really dumb because they are too suicidal
[22:14] <GNUtoo> After almost finishing the game it gets boring, and the tasks seem more repetitive, at that point I tried to look at the lua API to automate them
[22:15] <GNUtoo> and then I gave up
[22:15] <AlessioMontes> Oneshotted by syrgyn
[22:15] <AlessioMontes> Syrgin: nice shoot!
[22:15] <AlessioMontes> Shot*
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> guys take that conversation to -offtopic
[22:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ot
[22:16] <AlessioMontes> Otherwise syrgyn will oneshot you
[22:16] <AlessioMontes> Like it happened to me
[22:16] <Viking667> I've got a weird error with synaptic, it keeps coming up with this error: The value 'vivid' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources. I'm on Xenial, how do I get this error fixed? I can't find anything referring to vivid in the whole /etc tree
[22:16] <GNUtoo> AlessioMontes: the issue is that many free software games full potential isn't used. For instance you mostly have CTF, and usual game modes being played, but not assault, or survival
[22:17] <GNUtoo> *is also
[22:17] <GNUtoo> (in xonotic that is the cast)
[22:17] <GNUtoo> *case
[22:17] <slacko_32342> are there dota-like open source games?
[22:17] <OerHeks> Viking667, look for that instance in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  or in softwarecenter>sources
[22:17] <AlessioMontes> One shot one kill eh syrgin ;)
[22:18] <Bashing-om> Viking667: A vivid kernel then still installed ? ' dpkg -l | grep linix- ' .
[22:19] <slacko_32342> There is no system but GNU and...
[22:19] <Viking667> OerHeks: nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that's uncommented, they're all commented out.
[22:19] <digitalvaldosta> Does anyone know how to fix fdisk: cannot open /dev/mmcblk0: Input/output error
[22:20] <Viking667> I'll check in Software Centre though, I use synaptic all the time because that's what I've used for quite some time.
[22:20] <digitalvaldosta> ?
[22:20] <GNUtoo> digitalvaldosta: doesn't look good, is the sd card plugged correctly?
[22:20] <bekks> digitalvaldosta: Replace the card.
[22:20] <digitalvaldosta> yes
[22:20] <blacksev> Hey guys :)
[22:20] <digitalvaldosta> It is a microSD in a sd adapter
[22:21] <digitalvaldosta> From my search I have found that it might mean that the label is messed up
[22:21] <bekks> digitalvaldosta: The disk label is pretty much irrelevant. I/O errors indicate physical damage.
[22:21] <digitalvaldosta> Awe nuts
[22:21] <AlessioMontes> Ahah broken pc ahahah
[22:22] <blacksev> I am a python programmer and a Developer From SYRIA I am so happy I entered this server , does anyone have the ability to give me a torrent link for RED_HAT linux
[22:22] <Bashing-om> !alis | blacksev
[22:22] <blacksev> i was going to work with them but I have a Problem with the internet in my country and they require a direct download
[22:22] <OerHeks> blacksev, join #redhat for support
[22:23] <digitalvaldosta> Are ya'll sure there's not SOMETHING that I can do to at least recover the pics?
[22:23] <OerHeks> or use ubuntu http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[22:23] <blacksev> Thaanx OerHeks
[22:23] <dan> hey]
[22:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[22:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hej san]
[22:25] <Viking667> digitalvaldosta: there may be some photo recovery tools that may help out, but I can't remember its name any more.
[22:25] <digitalvaldosta> Viking667 I started working with PhotoRec
[22:25] <wookie_> Can someone help me figure out how to install the drivers for a usb wifi adapter I recently purchased?  I'm having trouble figuring it out
[22:26] <digitalvaldosta> But I thinking maybe it could be the SD Adapter that the microSD is in
[22:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wookie_, which adapter?
[22:26] <Viking667> yeah, that's the result I just found. Not sure if that's the same thing I was looking at.
[22:26] <dan> How are you?
[22:26] <Viking667> Good thank you.
[22:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> dan ok you?
[22:26] <dan> Yeah doing well thank you
[22:27] <Kali_Yuga> Merry Christmas
[22:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeh and you
[22:27] <dan> Merry christmas to you too!
[22:27] <Viking667> digitalvaldosta: I've also seen and used testdisk, but that's a bit arcane.
[22:27] <digitalvaldosta> :'(
[22:27] <wookie_> SebthreeBQM10HD, it is a TP-link archer t2uh ac600
[22:27] <blacksev> #wookie
[22:27] <Viking667> However, it does seem to have a better chance at recovering if the blocks can be read sometimes.
[22:27] <wookie_> Yes, and Merry Christmas to everyone
[22:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wookie_, got a link?
[22:28] <Viking667> wookie_: uhm, it's not Christmas here any more... 11:27 am on Boxing Day here
[22:28] <blacksev> wookie to you want me to find you a link to download the drivers
[22:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wookie_, do you know what type of wirless that is? broadcom realtek etc?
[22:28] <wookie_> http://www.tp-link.com/us/download/Archer-T2UH.html#Driver
[22:28] <wookie_> I already found the drivers
[22:28] <Viking667> Bashing-om: Unlikely, I upgraded to Xenial kernels.
[22:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> blacksev, wookie_ there may not be linux drivers
[22:29] <blacksev> yea so where is the problem friend
[22:29] <Viking667> And this only recently started happening, and I don't know what triggered it.
[22:29] <profetik> Hi folks. And Merry Christmas.  If I wanted to find a snapshot of logs or error reports where would I go? Or is it only found thru terminal command.
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Seen the existence of old kernels too many times to discount it :)
[22:29] <Viking667> profetik: check in /var/log with you file browser
[22:29] <wookie_> There are some linux drivers Seth.
[22:29] <Viking667> Bashing-om: okay, I'lll take another look. Thanks for the suggestion.
[22:30] <blacksev> all the drivers that you will find on the site is windows i think
[22:30] <\9> profetik: logwatch is pretty good at that
[22:30] <profetik> Cool thanks folks.
[22:31] <wookie_> blackserv, on the link I posted there is a linux driver lsited
[22:31] <wookie_> I can post the error I am receiving
[22:31] <blacksev> post it
[22:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wookie_, you can try the linux driver, but may not work dependingn on what kernel you are running etc
[22:32] <digitalvaldosta> Yaaaaay!!!! I tryed another microSD adapter that I had (SD disk brand) and it worked! PNY adapter is dead. Thanks for the input everyone
[22:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wookie_, the driver may be for a specific kernel version
[22:32] <wookie_> https://gist.github.com/Wisbell/24354d633b8fdf502b71bd82550703dc
[22:32] <wookie_> I installed an updated kernel which should allow the driver to be used
[22:33] <blacksev> are you installing it as root
[22:33] <wookie_> yes
[22:33] <blacksev> or you are using your su command
[22:33] <wookie_> I am using sudo make
[22:34] <wookie_> as the instructions say
[22:34] <blacksev> log in as root
[22:34] <Two> test
[22:34] <blacksev> using the command su
[22:34] <wookie_> I did, blackserv.  I put in my password
[22:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Two, test ok
[22:34] <Guest38726> im not that far yet
[22:34] <Guest38726> happy-xmass
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and you
[22:35] <blacksev> try chmod the installation to 777
[22:35] <Guest38726> test
[22:35] <Guest38726> lsl
[22:35] <wookie_> How do I do that blackserv? Sorry I'm an ubuntu newb
[22:35] <Guest38726> dayum
[22:35] <Guest38726> i udertud mirc
[22:36] <blacksev> wookie freind first i need to ask you did you set a root passwd
[22:36] <insy> hey
[22:36] <wookie_> Yes, and I entered the right password when I used the sudo command
[22:36] <Guest38726> hey
[22:36] <OerHeks> oh no, don't set rootpassword
[22:36] <insy> hey
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hey
[22:36] <blacksev> no its deffrint
[22:36] <OerHeks> !root
[22:36] <Guest38726> use       same pass evry time
[22:37] <OerHeks> using sudo <comand> is correct.
[22:37] <Guest38726> i make uo a senence and use first letters
[22:37] <insy> i dont working Tor browser
[22:37] <blacksev> hehehehe #ubottu
[22:37] <blacksev> I was waching Matrix todat
[22:37] <blacksev> y
[22:37] <Guest38726> im using xubuntu
[22:38] <Guest38726> old movie
[22:38] <GNUtoo> Free your mind indeed
[22:38] <wookie_> blackserv, I guess you are correct.  When I type in the password for su it doesn't work.  The password I used to log in doesn't seem to be the same as the one required for "su"
[22:38] <Suhoj> :-(
[22:38] <GNUtoo> wookie_: s/Kunfu, I'm going to learn kunfu/Ubuntu, I'm going to learn Ubuntu/
[22:39] <Guest38726> insta;; it with a thumpdrive
[22:39] <GNUtoo> wookie_: it was taken from a parody of Matrix
[22:39] <Guest38726> good night to u to
[22:39] <GNUtoo> night
[22:39] <Guest38726> gnu
[22:40] <Guest38726> no nick?
[22:41] <Guest38726> i try xchat
[22:43] <GNUtoo> wookie_: The matrix is a metaphor that describes well the world we live in...
[22:52]  * Viking667 grumbles
[22:52] <Viking667> Okay, I fixed the "default release" problem. Seems I have some other issues that I need to eventually resolve.
[22:53] <wookie_> Anyone else know how to install the drivers for the Archer T2UH usb wifi adapter?
[23:06] <ironhide_> has anyone ran ubuntu on msi laptops?
[23:07] <Bashing-om> ironhide_: Sure someone has and does, what is the "real" question ?
[23:08] <kook2> .me
[23:08]  * kook2 
[23:08] <ironhide_> real question is im debating on installing ubuntu on a msi gs43vr phantom pro, but i am worried that the graphic card will cause me problems its a nvidia gtx1060
[23:08]  * kook2 Wrangles with a server
[23:11] <ironhide_> .me
[23:14] <Bashing-om> ironhide_: Might have to install the driver from our trusted PPA, maybe. See: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/112992/en-us .
[23:16] <ironhide_> Bashing-om: thank you
[23:16] <Bashing-om> ironhide_: ^^ installing the driver is no big deal. But may be stressful for a new user .
[23:21] <dodge29> e
[23:22] <kook2> Could someone help me on my server issue?
[23:22] <kook2> *issues?
[23:23] <blackflow> !ask | kook2
[23:24] <kook2> !patience
[23:24] <Bashing-om> kook2: In reference to a forum post ? Please provide the link .
[23:25] <kook2> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2347422&page=3&p=13587000#post13587000
[23:27] <Bashing-om> kook2: WIFI is not in my box of skills :(
[23:27] <ufc> hello all
[23:27] <ufc> anny girl for chat ? :)
[23:33] <Montenegro> any for chat ?
[23:34] <\9> !ot | Montenegro
[23:34] <Montenegro> any for help me to instal c++ on ubuntu ?
[23:35] <Montenegro> ubottu: i will kill you
[23:36] <Soul_Sample> lol
[23:37] <\9> :D
[23:46] <enoch85> hey guys, ever seen this before? https://twitter.com/techandme_se/status/813069892157112320
[23:46] <enoch85> I'm amazed
[23:57] <kisuke> Ok, so i managed to do something stupid, managed to kill my mouse input  after installing fglrfx, anyclue what im missing?
[23:57] <Android169> Those are cool
[23:58] <Android169> The Ubuntu cola