/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/12/26/#ubuntu-mate.txt

White_Lighthas anyone actually managed to get kdump to work on 16.04?05:31
White_Lightit seems to be horribly broken, along with kexec05:31
william_8086xiClient: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Ubuntu "yakkety" 16.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz (2.88GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (6.4 GiB Free) Swap: 7.7 GiB Total (7.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 51.6 GB / 490.1 GB (438.5 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Proce09:53
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jacky__hello all15:54
ubuntu-matehi everyone16:50
mate|47446.18:43
Akuli..18:48
=== Akuli_ is now known as Akuli
jack_hi if theres any one familiar with python for some reason there is no tkinter there is Easytkinter are they the same?19:10
mate|93295i have a problem booting from a usb19:20
jack_what software did you use19:21
mate|93295software?19:23
jack_sorry lol program19:23
mate|93295i boot from a hp startup19:23
jack_what you use to put mate on the USB?19:23
mate|93295windows 1019:24
mate|93295for install19:24
jack_ok i see your problem xD19:24
mate|93295uhm /: what is it19:24
jack_go download a program called unetbootin19:25
jack_its an easy program that will put it on the usb for you19:26
jack_you cant just put the ISO file on the usb it wont work19:26
jack_knowing windows your going to also have to go into your BIOS and turn off secure boot19:27
jack_might have to also put it in legacy mode19:27
mate|93295ok i will see19:29
jack_after you got all that sorted out you'll need to go yo your boot options  and change your usb to the first one or just pick it19:30
jack_on mine i click F12 and just pick it im not sure I have never used an HP19:31
jack_not sure about on an HP*19:32
mate|93295on hp is esc19:34
jack_do you want to dual boot or get ride of windows?19:36
mate|93295i want to change the windows to the disk19:36
mate|93295and do dual boot with the usb19:36
jack_so you want to dual boot?19:37
mate|93295in the usb yes19:37
jack_im slightly  confused19:38
jack_you want to run mate off the USB not install it to your hard drive?19:38
mate|93295yes19:38
jack_when you install mate to usb when you click esc it will pull up unetbootin it will ask you if you want to try mate19:41
jack_do that option19:42
mate|93295i install the mate by mistake in the disk19:42
jack_what?19:44
Akuliwhen installing it should warn you about deleting everything on the disk if you're going to do that19:44
jack_you can cancel  the installation as long as you did not format the partitions  its fine19:45
mate|93295uhm ok19:45
mate|93295that was the problem19:45
Akulimate|93295, have you installed it already?19:45
Akulihave you went past this step? http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/3-fixedbyvonnie-ubuntu-virtualbox-erase-disk-and-install-ubuntu.png19:45
jack_sorry read Akuli and thought it was you my bad19:46
Akulino problem :)19:46
mate|93295i erase the disk19:46
Akuliwhy did you do that? :)19:47
mate|93295idk :/19:47
Akulii think the installer should say "this will delete everything" instead of "this will delete any files"19:47
jack_did you install alongside or just install ubuntu mate?19:48
mate|93295ffs :)19:48
Akulijack_, the "erase disk and install ubuntu" option19:48
Akulimate|93295, if you want windows now you need to install it yourself19:48
mate|93295i will install know i will be back19:49
Akuliusually there's some kind of recovery thing you can use19:49
jack_Akuli19:49
Akuliyes?19:49
jack_i want to install the driver for invidia drivers that are not open source19:50
mate|93295what kind of recovery19:50
jack_when i did that on regular  ubuntu it gave me black screen after reboot19:51
Akulimate|93295, i think hp does it so that you go to their website and enter your windows product key from a sticker in the bottom of the laptop, i don't remember19:51
beenumHi guys, I have a question regarding ubuntu mate(raspberry pi) kernel compilation. I want to add seccomp and apparmor modules and compile it again. Should I follow the guidelines provided for raspbian?19:51
Akulijack_, why not to just use the driver manager thingy that ubuntu comes with?19:52
Akuliit's a tab in a thingy called software and updates if i remember that correctly19:52
jack_i did that on regular ubuntu and gave me black screen xD19:52
Akulibeenum, ubuntu and raspbian are both based on debian, so i don't see any reason why they wouldn't work19:52
jack_i Know how to fix it to keep it from doing a black screen I just wanted to know so i would do it before i try to install it and i dont want to do it if i dont have to19:53
jack_on ubuntu I had to quite splash and a few other things19:54
Akulijack_, are you trying to download a driver from a website yourself?19:54
jack_nope19:54
jack_from software manager19:54
Akuliwhy not driver manager?19:55
Akuliis there nothing there?19:55
jack_thats what i meant19:55
beenumAkuli! Exactly, there shouldn't be any problem but when I try to compile the custom one, it fails. I'm using the config file from ubuntu mate I'm using. When I try to compile, it says "restarting config..." and asks me to select everything manually19:55
Akulioh ok :)19:55
Akulihmm :(19:55
Akulibeenum, i've never had a raspberry pi so i don't know how to help19:56
jack_you sure theres no corrupt files?19:56
beenumAkuli, It's okay, Is there any place you can recommend for help?19:56
Akulibeenum, you can just wait here, maybe someone else knows :)19:56
Akulijack_, corrupt files?19:57
beenumOkay :)19:57
jack_hold on19:57
Casimiromy pc continue doesn't booting from the usb20:07
SlownHello guys20:07
Slownhappy to be there with you tonight20:07
Slownanyone there to make some jokes ?20:08
Slownseriously guys I'm hesitating between gnome 3 and mate20:08
Slownwhy I should get ubuntu mate ?20:08
Casimiromy pc continue doesn't booting from the usb20:09
jack_h,,20:09
jack_hm20:09
jack_did yyou just put the iso on the thumb drive?20:09
jack_or did you use a program20:09
jack_and slown it depends on what you want20:10
Casimiroi use the unetbootin like u said20:10
jack_you check secure boot?20:10
jack_and see if theres a legacy mode option?20:11
Slownwhat I want is the best desktop20:11
Slownwhy do you choose to create a fork of gnome 220:11
Slowninstead of using gnome 3 ?20:11
Slownthat's the question my friend20:11
jack_i didn't xD20:11
jack_i did not make mate20:12
Slownbut you use it20:12
Slownso answer the question20:12
Casimiroyes is a legacy mode20:12
Casimiroand is active20:12
jack_hmm20:12
jack_hold on slown20:12
SlownI'm waiting20:12
Slownguys here, don't be shy20:12
jack_did you turn off secure boot20:12
Slowngive us your answers please20:12
Casimirono20:13
jack_you have to turn it off20:13
jack_and slown do you really like gnome 3 that much xD20:14
Slownyou're a funny guy my friend20:14
jack_i try xP20:14
AkuliSlown, one reason why i prefer mate over gnome 3 is the panels20:14
Akulii can organize the panels in any way i want easily20:14
SlownAkuli, you're the guy20:14
Slownhow are you buddy ?20:15
Akulithe guy?20:15
Akuliim fine :)20:15
Slownyeah the guy for this kind of situation20:15
Slowndon't be jealous jack_ I like you too20:15
Slown:p20:15
Akulilike if you're a windows fan you can just have one panel at the bottom and a windows-start-menu-style menu20:15
jack_i don't get jealous  XD20:15
Slowndid you try gnome 3 Akuli ?20:16
Akulii tried it once20:16
jack_and he will never go back xP20:16
Akulithings just weren't where i expected them to be20:16
Slowndid you use gnome 2 before ?20:16
Akuliyes, mate is basically gnome 220:17
Slowntotally20:17
Akulii think i managed to launch applications in gnome 3, but that's about it :)20:18
Slownand why you didn't choose xfce over mate ?20:18
Akulii've used it also, mostly because mate comes with my favorite theme by default :)20:18
jack_with Mate you can use Matetweak and change the panels to a few different things20:18
Slownwhich theme ?20:18
Akuliblack-mate20:18
Slownthis guy is a hacker my friends20:19
Slownthe fbi is watching you20:19
Slownbe careful20:19
jack_who?20:19
SlownAkuli20:19
Slowndon't be scared jack_20:19
SlownI know you're a good boy20:19
jack_you know noshing xD20:20
Akuliheh :)20:20
Slownso to be clear, mate is based on gtk 3 or 2 ?20:22
jack_Akuli when you dual boot with a another Linux with mate does it partition every thing well or would it be batter to do it my self?20:22
AkuliSlown, based on gtk 2 and gnome 2, currently the theme is porting it to gtk 320:23
Akuliteam, not theme20:23
Akulijack_, the default partitioning is fine20:23
jack_alright thanks20:23
Casimirojack_:  with the legacy mode active my computer doesn't boot20:23
jack_hmm thats odd20:23
jack_man ive never used an HP I built mine20:24
Slownthe favorite icon themes on mate ?20:25
jack_what mother board you have in there if you know?20:25
AkuliSlown, i just use the default one20:25
Slownthe green ones ?20:27
SlownOmg20:27
Akulii think you're talking about ubuntu mate's weird default20:27
Akulithe blackmate theme switches the icon theme to mate's default icon theme20:27
jack_Akuli you know how long the developers plan on supporting mate?20:30
Slownsupporting mate ?20:31
Slownwhat are you talking about ?20:31
Akulijack_, now mate is mostly ported to gtk 3, so it should be usable for many more years20:31
Akuliusable as in everything works great20:31
Slownthe new version of mate Akuli ?20:31
Casimirojack_:  no idk the motherboard model20:32
SlownIt will be included on ubuntu mate 16.04 or not ?20:32
jack_alright hold on20:32
jack_try it with out legacy mode then come tell me what happens20:34
AkuliSlown, ubuntu mate 16.04 is released already, i'm not sure what it has because i'm not running ubuntu mate 16.0420:35
jack_https://neosmart.net/wiki/enable-legacy-boot-mode/20:36
jack_thats for you Casimiro_:20:37
Casimirojack_: the legacy mode is active20:37
jack_did you try and turn it off and see if it worked with out20:38
Casimirohe don't work with the legacy mode disable20:39
jack_hmm20:39
jack_read what that stuff from the url and see if it helps20:39
jack_does it say ASUS when you go into your BIOS?20:40
jack_top left20:40
jack_i have to go work out before it gets any latter ill be back in a bit if you have not figured it out by then ill be back on here to help you more Casimiro_:20:42
jack_later*20:42
jack_that url should help though20:43
ozgurhi guys20:53
jack_you there Casimiro_,21:22
jack_when you encrypt  your home file from the mate installation  does it encrypt your swap automatically as well?22:06
sixwheeledbeastI don't believe so22:24
jack_it does ran sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap says all ready encrypted very nice xD22:46
TIBUMI installed Kodi XBMC on my ubuntu mate, but i cant find it :/23:24

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