[05:31] <White_Light> has anyone actually managed to get kdump to work on 16.04?
[05:31] <White_Light> it seems to be horribly broken, along with kexec
[09:53] <william_8086xi> Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Ubuntu "yakkety" 16.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz (2.88GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (6.4 GiB Free) Swap: 7.7 GiB Total (7.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 51.6 GB / 490.1 GB (438.5 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Proce
[09:53] <william_8086xi> ssor DRAM Controller • Uptime: 23h 46m 15s
[15:54] <jacky__> hello all
[16:50] <ubuntu-mate> hi everyone
[18:43] <mate|47446> .
[18:48] <Akuli> ..
[19:10] <jack_> hi if theres any one familiar with python for some reason there is no tkinter there is Easytkinter are they the same?
[19:20] <mate|93295> i have a problem booting from a usb
[19:21] <jack_> what software did you use
[19:23] <mate|93295> software?
[19:23] <jack_> sorry lol program
[19:23] <mate|93295> i boot from a hp startup
[19:23] <jack_> what you use to put mate on the USB?
[19:24] <mate|93295> windows 10
[19:24] <mate|93295> for install
[19:24] <jack_> ok i see your problem xD
[19:24] <mate|93295> uhm /: what is it
[19:25] <jack_> go download a program called unetbootin
[19:26] <jack_> its an easy program that will put it on the usb for you
[19:26] <jack_> you cant just put the ISO file on the usb it wont work
[19:27] <jack_> knowing windows your going to also have to go into your BIOS and turn off secure boot
[19:27] <jack_> might have to also put it in legacy mode
[19:29] <mate|93295> ok i will see
[19:30] <jack_> after you got all that sorted out you'll need to go yo your boot options  and change your usb to the first one or just pick it
[19:31] <jack_> on mine i click F12 and just pick it im not sure I have never used an HP
[19:32] <jack_> not sure about on an HP*
[19:34] <mate|93295> on hp is esc
[19:36] <jack_> do you want to dual boot or get ride of windows?
[19:36] <mate|93295> i want to change the windows to the disk
[19:36] <mate|93295> and do dual boot with the usb
[19:37] <jack_> so you want to dual boot?
[19:37] <mate|93295> in the usb yes
[19:38] <jack_> im slightly  confused
[19:38] <jack_> you want to run mate off the USB not install it to your hard drive?
[19:38] <mate|93295> yes
[19:41] <jack_> when you install mate to usb when you click esc it will pull up unetbootin it will ask you if you want to try mate
[19:42] <jack_> do that option
[19:42] <mate|93295> i install the mate by mistake in the disk
[19:44] <jack_> what?
[19:44] <Akuli> when installing it should warn you about deleting everything on the disk if you're going to do that
[19:45] <jack_> you can cancel  the installation as long as you did not format the partitions  its fine
[19:45] <mate|93295> uhm ok
[19:45] <mate|93295> that was the problem
[19:45] <Akuli> mate|93295, have you installed it already?
[19:45] <Akuli> have you went past this step? http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/3-fixedbyvonnie-ubuntu-virtualbox-erase-disk-and-install-ubuntu.png
[19:46] <jack_> sorry read Akuli and thought it was you my bad
[19:46] <Akuli> no problem :)
[19:46] <mate|93295> i erase the disk
[19:47] <Akuli> why did you do that? :)
[19:47] <mate|93295> idk :/
[19:47] <Akuli> i think the installer should say "this will delete everything" instead of "this will delete any files"
[19:48] <jack_> did you install alongside or just install ubuntu mate?
[19:48] <mate|93295> ffs :)
[19:48] <Akuli> jack_, the "erase disk and install ubuntu" option
[19:48] <Akuli> mate|93295, if you want windows now you need to install it yourself
[19:49] <mate|93295> i will install know i will be back
[19:49] <Akuli> usually there's some kind of recovery thing you can use
[19:49] <jack_> Akuli
[19:49] <Akuli> yes?
[19:50] <jack_> i want to install the driver for invidia drivers that are not open source
[19:50] <mate|93295> what kind of recovery
[19:51] <jack_> when i did that on regular  ubuntu it gave me black screen after reboot
[19:51] <Akuli> mate|93295, i think hp does it so that you go to their website and enter your windows product key from a sticker in the bottom of the laptop, i don't remember
[19:51] <beenum> Hi guys, I have a question regarding ubuntu mate(raspberry pi) kernel compilation. I want to add seccomp and apparmor modules and compile it again. Should I follow the guidelines provided for raspbian?
[19:52] <Akuli> jack_, why not to just use the driver manager thingy that ubuntu comes with?
[19:52] <Akuli> it's a tab in a thingy called software and updates if i remember that correctly
[19:52] <jack_> i did that on regular ubuntu and gave me black screen xD
[19:52] <Akuli> beenum, ubuntu and raspbian are both based on debian, so i don't see any reason why they wouldn't work
[19:53] <jack_> i Know how to fix it to keep it from doing a black screen I just wanted to know so i would do it before i try to install it and i dont want to do it if i dont have to
[19:54] <jack_> on ubuntu I had to quite splash and a few other things
[19:54] <Akuli> jack_, are you trying to download a driver from a website yourself?
[19:54] <jack_> nope
[19:54] <jack_> from software manager
[19:55] <Akuli> why not driver manager?
[19:55] <Akuli> is there nothing there?
[19:55] <jack_> thats what i meant
[19:55] <beenum> Akuli! Exactly, there shouldn't be any problem but when I try to compile the custom one, it fails. I'm using the config file from ubuntu mate I'm using. When I try to compile, it says "restarting config..." and asks me to select everything manually
[19:55] <Akuli> oh ok :)
[19:55] <Akuli> hmm :(
[19:56] <Akuli> beenum, i've never had a raspberry pi so i don't know how to help
[19:56] <jack_> you sure theres no corrupt files?
[19:56] <beenum> Akuli, It's okay, Is there any place you can recommend for help?
[19:56] <Akuli> beenum, you can just wait here, maybe someone else knows :)
[19:57] <Akuli> jack_, corrupt files?
[19:57] <beenum> Okay :)
[19:57] <jack_> hold on
[20:07] <Casimiro> my pc continue doesn't booting from the usb
[20:07] <Slown> Hello guys
[20:07] <Slown> happy to be there with you tonight
[20:08] <Slown> anyone there to make some jokes ?
[20:08] <Slown> seriously guys I'm hesitating between gnome 3 and mate
[20:08] <Slown> why I should get ubuntu mate ?
[20:09] <Casimiro> my pc continue doesn't booting from the usb
[20:09] <jack_> h,,
[20:09] <jack_> hm
[20:09] <jack_> did yyou just put the iso on the thumb drive?
[20:09] <jack_> or did you use a program
[20:10] <jack_> and slown it depends on what you want
[20:10] <Casimiro> i use the unetbootin like u said
[20:10] <jack_> you check secure boot?
[20:11] <jack_> and see if theres a legacy mode option?
[20:11] <Slown> what I want is the best desktop
[20:11] <Slown> why do you choose to create a fork of gnome 2
[20:11] <Slown> instead of using gnome 3 ?
[20:11] <Slown> that's the question my friend
[20:11] <jack_> i didn't xD
[20:12] <jack_> i did not make mate
[20:12] <Slown> but you use it
[20:12] <Slown> so answer the question
[20:12] <Casimiro> yes is a legacy mode
[20:12] <Casimiro> and is active
[20:12] <jack_> hmm
[20:12] <jack_> hold on slown
[20:12] <Slown> I'm waiting
[20:12] <Slown> guys here, don't be shy
[20:12] <jack_> did you turn off secure boot
[20:12] <Slown> give us your answers please
[20:13] <Casimiro> no
[20:13] <jack_> you have to turn it off
[20:14] <jack_> and slown do you really like gnome 3 that much xD
[20:14] <Slown> you're a funny guy my friend
[20:14] <jack_> i try xP
[20:14] <Akuli> Slown, one reason why i prefer mate over gnome 3 is the panels
[20:14] <Akuli> i can organize the panels in any way i want easily
[20:14] <Slown> Akuli, you're the guy
[20:15] <Slown> how are you buddy ?
[20:15] <Akuli> the guy?
[20:15] <Akuli> im fine :)
[20:15] <Slown> yeah the guy for this kind of situation
[20:15] <Slown> don't be jealous jack_ I like you too
[20:15] <Slown> :p
[20:15] <Akuli> like if you're a windows fan you can just have one panel at the bottom and a windows-start-menu-style menu
[20:15] <jack_> i don't get jealous  XD
[20:16] <Slown> did you try gnome 3 Akuli ?
[20:16] <Akuli> i tried it once
[20:16] <jack_> and he will never go back xP
[20:16] <Akuli> things just weren't where i expected them to be
[20:16] <Slown> did you use gnome 2 before ?
[20:17] <Akuli> yes, mate is basically gnome 2
[20:17] <Slown> totally
[20:18] <Akuli> i think i managed to launch applications in gnome 3, but that's about it :)
[20:18] <Slown> and why you didn't choose xfce over mate ?
[20:18] <Akuli> i've used it also, mostly because mate comes with my favorite theme by default :)
[20:18] <jack_> with Mate you can use Matetweak and change the panels to a few different things
[20:18] <Slown> which theme ?
[20:18] <Akuli> black-mate
[20:19] <Slown> this guy is a hacker my friends
[20:19] <Slown> the fbi is watching you
[20:19] <Slown> be careful
[20:19] <jack_> who?
[20:19] <Slown> Akuli
[20:19] <Slown> don't be scared jack_
[20:19] <Slown> I know you're a good boy
[20:20] <jack_> you know noshing xD
[20:20] <Akuli> heh :)
[20:22] <Slown> so to be clear, mate is based on gtk 3 or 2 ?
[20:22] <jack_> Akuli when you dual boot with a another Linux with mate does it partition every thing well or would it be batter to do it my self?
[20:23] <Akuli> Slown, based on gtk 2 and gnome 2, currently the theme is porting it to gtk 3
[20:23] <Akuli> team, not theme
[20:23] <Akuli> jack_, the default partitioning is fine
[20:23] <jack_> alright thanks
[20:23] <Casimiro> jack_:  with the legacy mode active my computer doesn't boot
[20:23] <jack_> hmm thats odd
[20:24] <jack_> man ive never used an HP I built mine
[20:25] <Slown> the favorite icon themes on mate ?
[20:25] <jack_> what mother board you have in there if you know?
[20:25] <Akuli> Slown, i just use the default one
[20:27] <Slown> the green ones ?
[20:27] <Slown> Omg
[20:27] <Akuli> i think you're talking about ubuntu mate's weird default
[20:27] <Akuli> the blackmate theme switches the icon theme to mate's default icon theme
[20:30] <jack_> Akuli you know how long the developers plan on supporting mate?
[20:31] <Slown> supporting mate ?
[20:31] <Slown> what are you talking about ?
[20:31] <Akuli> jack_, now mate is mostly ported to gtk 3, so it should be usable for many more years
[20:31] <Akuli> usable as in everything works great
[20:31] <Slown> the new version of mate Akuli ?
[20:32] <Casimiro> jack_:  no idk the motherboard model
[20:32] <Slown> It will be included on ubuntu mate 16.04 or not ?
[20:32] <jack_> alright hold on
[20:34] <jack_> try it with out legacy mode then come tell me what happens
[20:35] <Akuli> Slown, ubuntu mate 16.04 is released already, i'm not sure what it has because i'm not running ubuntu mate 16.04
[20:36] <jack_> https://neosmart.net/wiki/enable-legacy-boot-mode/
[20:37] <jack_> thats for you Casimiro_:
[20:37] <Casimiro> jack_: the legacy mode is active
[20:38] <jack_> did you try and turn it off and see if it worked with out
[20:39] <Casimiro> he don't work with the legacy mode disable
[20:39] <jack_> hmm
[20:39] <jack_> read what that stuff from the url and see if it helps
[20:40] <jack_> does it say ASUS when you go into your BIOS?
[20:40] <jack_> top left
[20:42] <jack_> i have to go work out before it gets any latter ill be back in a bit if you have not figured it out by then ill be back on here to help you more Casimiro_:
[20:42] <jack_> later*
[20:43] <jack_> that url should help though
[20:53] <ozgur> hi guys
[21:22] <jack_> you there Casimiro_,
[22:06] <jack_> when you encrypt  your home file from the mate installation  does it encrypt your swap automatically as well?
[22:24] <sixwheeledbeast> I don't believe so
[22:46] <jack_> it does ran sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap says all ready encrypted very nice xD
[23:24] <TIBUM> I installed Kodi XBMC on my ubuntu mate, but i cant find it :/