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| === Xethron_ is now known as Xethron | ||
| jerit | guys I neeeeeed heeeeelp | 13:11 |
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| jerit | can't copy largish files to my server | 13:12 |
| jerit__ | dunno what's happening with my other login but I've decided to reinstall the thing now I've got samba installed so now what? | 13:53 |
| jerit | okay so this seems to have got its act together | 14:12 |
| jerit | running /smbpasswd -a jerit/ hasn't done what I expected it would | 14:25 |
| jerit | it gives me like help documentation | 14:25 |
| jerit | ah that's because -a ignores the option if the specified username already exists | 14:26 |
| jerit | so now I'm confused because samba is installed and everything but I can't access my share | 14:31 |
| jerit | the login keeps getting rejected | 14:31 |
| paddatrapper | jerit: smbpasswd -e jerit | 14:33 |
| paddatrapper | You need to enable the user after adding it | 14:33 |
| paddatrapper | I still find samba to be largely black, useful magic | 14:33 |
| jerit | lol | 14:34 |
| jerit | still can't get into it | 14:34 |
| jerit | smbpasswd -e did the same as -a | 14:34 |
| jerit | ie nothing apparently | 14:34 |
| paddatrapper | let me see if I can check on one of my server | 14:35 |
| paddatrapper | s | 14:35 |
| jerit | I'm working on this btw https://www.howtoforge.com/samba-server-ubuntu-14.04-lts | 14:36 |
| paddatrapper | jerit: In your config file you need to specify the samba passwd file: | 14:38 |
| paddatrapper | [global] | 14:38 |
| paddatrapper | smb password file = /etc/smb/smbpasswd | 14:38 |
| * jerit forgot to sudo smbpasswd -a jerit | 14:39 | |
| jerit | was running it without sudo so it didn't work | 14:39 |
| paddatrapper | Ah, yeah sudo is needed | 14:39 |
| paddatrapper | FWIW this is my smb config file: https://gitlab.com/paddatrapper/ansible/blob/master/personal/roles/file/files/smb.conf.j2 | 14:40 |
| jerit | this guide I'm using said nothing about sudo being needed | 14:41 |
| magespawn | maybe assumed your are running as root al the time | 14:41 |
| paddatrapper | Generally most config of system daemons require root | 14:41 |
| magespawn | you are | 14:41 |
| magespawn | some of the setups linke centos you have to setup the users | 14:42 |
| paddatrapper | that's a really bad assumption to be making... (on the guide's side) | 14:42 |
| paddatrapper | You shouldn | 14:42 |
| paddatrapper | You shouldn't be logged in as root to any box, always setup users | 14:42 |
| magespawn | indeed but playing around with kali i set up a standard user, then could not get most things to work | 14:42 |
| magespawn | the guides assumed a default setup | 14:43 |
| paddatrapper | True, Kali is slightly different, as you are working with tools that require direct access to things that only root has access to (network, configs, etc) | 14:45 |
| jerit | how can I check my user permissions? | 14:45 |
| paddatrapper | jerit: What do you mean> | 14:45 |
| jerit | I think my user is a root user by default | 14:45 |
| paddatrapper | ? | 14:45 |
| jerit | how do I check? | 14:45 |
| paddatrapper | Ag I can't type today... | 14:45 |
| jerit | :P | 14:45 |
| paddatrapper | check your username? If it is root, then you are root | 14:46 |
| jerit | it isn't | 14:46 |
| jerit | su - root ... I can't authenticate coz I don't know what that password is lol | 14:47 |
| paddatrapper | Then you're not root. You have root permissions (sudo group in Debian/Ubuntu) when you run sudo | 14:47 |
| paddatrapper | sudo passwd will change the root password without prompting for original | 14:47 |
| jerit | but that means nobody knows what root password is so whats the point of it if you can get into an account that's on sudo list? | 14:48 |
| paddatrapper | exactly why that list should be as short as possible | 14:48 |
| paddatrapper | sudo also allows for more auditablility through logs and things when there are multiple users | 14:49 |
| jerit | server broke... who did it? *slaps sudoer over the head with a wet fish* | 14:52 |
| paddatrapper | lol, exactly! | 14:57 |
| jerit | playboy.co.za is seriously slow to load | 15:01 |
| === MaNL is now known as MaNI | ||
| jerit | think they need to get onto a more custom system rather than WP | 15:01 |
| jerit | maybe something with a bit more focus | 15:01 |
| magespawn | i am off chat later all | 15:07 |
| superfly | jerit: root has no password so that you can't log in as root. When you need root, use sudo to gain privileges for that command. This is better security. | 15:11 |
| nsnzero | good evening all | 16:05 |
| jerit | superfly I don't understand... if using sudo allows me to do everything that root can do and root is inaccessible, why have root at all? | 16:06 |
| jerit | seems to me it is then, defunct or otherwise has no purpose | 16:07 |
| paddatrapper | jerit: You can only not login as root. the user root is still used extensively in a linux system - things like running system daemons would not be possible if root did not exist | 16:09 |
| nsnzero | to root or not to root | 16:15 |
| nsnzero | jerit you can only run root if you are in the sudoers list - is a proctection mechanism for multiuser environments born out of the fact that unix / linux was create3d to | 16:17 |
| nsnzero | run a server with other user connecting with simple terminals | 16:18 |
| superfly | paddatrapper: btw, as of the 21st I am a DM | 17:14 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: congratulations! | 18:00 |
| jerit | a DM? | 18:02 |
| jerit | and also, you're not 21 yet? | 18:02 |
| jerit | oh, as of /the/ 21st, not /your/ 21st | 18:02 |
| paddatrapper | jerit: Debian Maintainer | 18:03 |
| inetpro | . | 20:46 |
| kulelu88 | Does anybody use Kate here? | 21:07 |
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