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sixwheeledbeastI'd be interested how well hibernate works if that is the case.00:26
mate|19779hi00:28
mate|19779I am new to ubuntu mate it looks good00:28
mate|19779i am thinking of moving to Linux based OS from Windows00:29
mate|19779I am an IT Pro00:29
randallcool00:29
mate|19779coming from Microsoft based background but moving into Cisco networking00:29
mate|19779I need a divorce from Microsoft00:30
randallmicrisift joined the linux foundation you know00:30
mate|19779good for them....lol00:30
randall*microsoft00:30
mate|19779the whole cortana thing freaks me out lol00:30
mate|19779i need to at least adopt Ubuntu for my personal computing00:31
mate|19779may be run a VM windows machine for work00:31
randallcould work00:40
randallI got amazon's "cortana" on my tablet now00:41
jack_its not as hard as people make it out to be00:45
randallI adopted linux for pure financial reasons, I was running 32 bit vista on a 64 bit machine and couldn't afford an os upgrade, but 64 bit mint 12 was free,so.....00:54
jack_lol agreed00:59
jack_windows is not worth the cost in my opinion00:59
jack_it gets viruses and melware to easy but you pay for and in linux its free and your more then likely not going to get a virus or melware01:00
randalllinux malware is something you gotta be teatering on the edge of real smart and real stupid to get infected01:01
randalland prety much all the linux malwares get neutered on the next kernel update01:02
jack_can you tell how i turn the barking off xD01:04
jack_i have never seen a Linux distro do that01:04
randallgo into ther pauv and mute system sounds01:05
jack_thanks01:08
randallyep01:08
jack_I thought is was kind of funny -\]\\\\\\\\\\\]\\01:09
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randallyou ok man?01:10
jack_some thing got stuck in my keyboard xD01:10
randalllawl01:10
jack_does ps4 controller work on mate?01:12
randallI believe so, you may need a special driver like xboxdrv for the 360 game pad01:14
randallno wait, ps4 is bluetooth,, it might just work out of the box01:16
jack_can i use usb to hook in my desktop does not have blue tooth01:35
randallgive it a try01:42
randallbut bluetooth dongles are generally cheaper than wifi dongles these days01:42
randalland bluetooth headphones...this pair are not only the best quality sounding headphones I ever had,, but there's no wires for the cat to bite in half to boot01:44
jack_lol01:45
randallif it's not to big a shock to the old wallet, the commercial for the new beats bluetooth headphones touts 40 hours listening time01:47
jack_never used beats before02:02
randallsame02:04
jack_should games that work for regular Ubuntu work on mate?02:27
jack_from steam02:27
randallyes, steam games with linux support just work,, steam takes care of the dirty work02:30
jack_that is awesome02:31
jack_you play any games?02:32
jack_from steam that are on-line?02:32
randallno actual good online games for linux on steam sadly02:34
randallI play sso in wine though02:34
randallddo02:35
jack_you should check out Insurgency if you like FPS02:35
jack_its on steam for 2$02:36
randallnot a big online fps fan, or moba, or anything pvp, guess I'm just not that competitive02:37
jack_I wish they would do it for fall out 4 and skyrim xD02:42
randallyeah, the good folks at bethesda used dx10 for fallout 4 and skyrim se02:43
randallwine only supports dx902:43
jack_I know x(02:43
jack_and they did not port it to linux on steam02:44
randallzenemax as a whole has taken so many huge dumps pn the linux community that we may never get that smell out of the fabrics02:44
jack_most not think theres enough money to be made to be worth the time02:44
jack_zenemax?02:45
randallevery id game either has been ported to linux, or could be,, and zenemax made all that just "go away"02:45
randallzenemax is the parent company of bethesda and id02:46
randalleven their dos based games pre-morrowind could effortlessly be given a dosbox wrapper and released to us penguins, but they haven't02:47
randalldoom 1,2,3 all are all not only possible in linux but already done, by someone else, but not officially from zenemax/bethesda/ud02:49
randalldoom 2016 is already in vulcan, before that was opengl02:49
jack_the new doom made by them was made in linux i think02:51
randallnot publicly available in linux though02:53
jack_what xD02:54
randallI firmly believe had ID still been independant, all things doom would be available as linux ports02:55
randallzenemax by virtue of action has pretty much given the finger to linux02:55
azhello, I do not see partitions in my sidepanel any more in file browser02:55
randallare they mounted?02:56
jack_they make the game in linux and don't let people on linux play it garbage02:56
azI do not recall doing any change to settings. randall they are not mounted but they were showing before so I can mount them easily02:56
randallyoud'd be suprised what's made in linux and only released in windows02:56
jack_hmm02:57
randallbrb02:57
jack_you have gparted?02:57
jack_so we can tell if there mounted or not02:57
azjack_, they are not mounted I'm sure, they do not get mounted tell I request it02:59
jack_just making sure02:59
azI have gparted it's opening now02:59
jack_you sure you didnt run a bad command and repartition them by mistake?03:00
azI hope so03:00
azthey are there03:03
jack_but there no in devices03:09
jack_not03:09
jack_try rebooting03:09
jack_see if that fixes it03:09
azwell, one reason to get linux is not to reboot. I do not think this will fix it03:10
azI did reboot this morning03:10
jack_where they there before you did reboot?03:11
randalltrue, the only reason a linux machine should ever have to reboot would be a kernel update03:12
randallI went nearly a month once03:13
azjack_, no03:13
jack_I dont like leaving my computer on that can cause ram bleeding or is that6 just windows thing03:14
randalljust windows03:14
jack_dude thanks for telling me that03:15
azin linux if there is a problem you can get to the source of it. because it's not a trade secret. thus debugging issues and getting to the source of the problem should be welcomed03:16
jack_i really dont know why it will not show his partitions in the file browser03:17
Artemis3randall, in any case skyrim runs just fine with wine03:17
randallArtemis3, vanilla skyrim does03:18
jack_can you mod it?03:20
jack_and it still run03:20
randalljack_, if you mod skyrim in wine you're playing russian roulette, there's no boos or loot03:24
randallboss03:25
jack_damn03:40
jack_why x(03:40
jack_its one of the best parts of skyrim03:40
randallboss used to work, but became defunct, loot never worked03:40
randalland besides the workshop, to my knowklege there are no functioning mod organizors03:41
randallO'm sure Artemis3 could correct me if I'm mistaken03:42
randallI'm not certian if you can alt-tab out if you use a virtual desktop, never occurred to me to test it03:44
randalltbh if I had a console that played skyrim I'd be doing that instead of compromising in wine03:45
jack_i have windows on another SSD03:55
jack_just paranoid  its infected with melware that the anti virus cant find03:56
jack_cuss it ran fine on the net when i first built my desk top now it is strangely slow03:56
randallwell, normally I'd duggrsy clamav, but how to get it to scan a different drive? that kind of console sorcery is beyond my understanding03:57
randall*suggest03:57
jack_you have to have it dual booted with windows03:58
jack_I dont think you can scan another drive03:59
jack_clam AV open source?03:59
jack_i may be wrong about the dual boot thing i just dont see why you cant cuss you can get to your windows files when dual booted04:02
randallclam av is opensource, it's to my knowlege the only antivirus available in linux04:03
azrandall, the only open source antivirus available for linux maybe, but not there are multiple commercial options too04:34
randallaz, he said he's tooparanoid to boot into his windows drive,, so linux av would be the only option04:38
azI do not know if I got you clearly but what I meant to say is that there are commercial antivirus applications for linux05:04
odroidI've installed odoo ver 10 on odroid c2 running mate 16.04.  How do I find the physical path to the webserver that odoo is using?05:08
odroidWanting to use the webserver for sites in addition to odoo.05:09
odroidTo access the odoo server, I enter localhost:8069 in the address bar of my browser05:10
redmatriaHi06:02
redmatria"The solution (so they say) is to set the monitor brightness level to 100% thus preventing any possible screen flicker from the DC modulation and instead adjust the brightness and contrast levels in your GPU settings."06:02
redmatriaDo you know how to adjust this using Ubuntu MATE?06:02
stickybranchesHello! :D06:07
stickybranchesI'd just like to say, I've been rocking Ubuntu 16.04 LTS for a while (old Arch user) and it has been a joyful experience! Thank you Martin Wimpress and his crew! Also thank you Canonical! :D06:08
redmatriawww.testufo.com/blurtrail#foreground=FFFFFF&background=000000&thickness=1&height=480&ppf=64&separation=100006:15
redmatriaDo you see multiple lines here?06:15
mate|10185Hi06:46
mate|10185thanks for the community for such a great distro06:47
mate|10185im using ubuntu mate 16.0406:47
mate|10185can i upgrade mate to 1.16 version06:47
mate|10185currently battery backup is great. Will upgrading mate cause any issues06:48
mate|10185?/06:48
mate|10185Sorry for asking such questions06:55
mate|10185But I am looking for stability06:55
mate|10185I saw that some bugs were ironed out in 1.16, thats the reason i'm askng06:56
mate|10185wow thanks!07:02
redmatriaI am also looking for a new monitor that is very easy on my eyes.07:19
redmatriaMy current one bugs my eyes. Apparently a low haze or glossy screen can reduce eye strain.07:19
* randall suggests redshift07:28
redmatriaFunnily I use Ubuntu MATE and am quite a heavy mate drinker, probably like most of our best coders.07:38
redmatriaI'm looking for a GLOSSY monitor. Why are these so rare nowadays?07:41
redmatriaI found this thread on glossy screens. https://hardforum.com/threads/the-new-glossy-ah-ips-dell-s2415h.1836144/07:47
redmatriaI had a glossy NEC screen years back. It was beautiful.07:48
kiwi_hi... i just installed the mate desktop packages on ubuntu 16.04. But the display manager (login) shows no option for choosing a MATE seesion. any ideas?08:51
javier_Hola09:27
javier_Necesito ayuda. no encuentro la aplicación escritor de discos09:28
ouroumov!es | javier_09:33
ubottujavier_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.09:33
javier_gracias09:38
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sudosunduHello!15:22
sudosunduWill ubuntu mate 16.04 get mate 1.1615:22
sudosunduI mean like 1.14 upgrade?15:23
Akulii have no idea. do you need mate 1.16?15:26
sudosunduyes15:26
mate|91613Anyone else having problems getting Virtualbox to work?18:04
nomicy doesn't it work18:06
nomicdoes it not work with a specific iso18:06
nomicvirtualbox works18:06
Akulimate|91613, what do you want to run in virtualbox and how are you trying to do that?18:07
mate|91613Ubuntu Mate 16.10 ... I run "apt-get install virtualbox" ... and there is error:  modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why18:08
Akulihmm18:09
Akuliok18:09
Akulivirtualbox does all kinds of weird stuff when you install it, you could try qemu instead but i have no experience with it18:09
nomicuse synaptic to install virtualbox18:11
nomicsudo apt-get install synaptic18:11
nomicthen search for virtualbox18:11
nomicapp is 'virtualbox-ose'18:11
nomic .. install18:11
nomicvirtualbox works18:11
Akulinomic, he quit already and synaptic wouldn't make a difference at all18:12
odroidnick19:07
ubuntu-mate_Just checking if this is working. MAC PPC G5 live CD running. Anyone confirm reading this?19:12
ubuntu-mate_Seems stable to me. I guess I'll go ahead with the install. Thought I would see if there were any other PPC users19:13
jackis there a way to set your background to change pictures like in windows19:18
jacki don't remember what you call it xD19:18
merlin_hello19:20
jackwhats up19:21
merlin_i have a little problem19:21
jacktell me about it19:21
jackI may be of some assistance19:21
merlin_i have a bluetooth icon behind my wlan on my PC but i dont have a bluetooth-card19:22
jackso is saying you have blue tooth on?19:22
merlin_with out bluetooth support19:23
jackhmm19:23
jackso you want that blue tooth mark to go away correct?19:24
merlin_i can exit it but after restart it comes agian19:24
merlin_yes19:24
jackcould try restarting Xorg might fix it19:25
jackyou mess with any files as root?19:26
jacksudo is root if you dont know that19:26
merlin_i have just new installed for 10 min19:26
jacko ok19:27
jackjust asking man xD19:27
jackor girl idk19:27
jackhold on a sec19:27
merlin_ok19:27
jackstill there19:29
merlin_yes19:29
jacktry this19:30
jacksudo service lightdm restart and see if that fixes it19:30
jackdont freak out its going to make your screen go black for a sec xD19:30
jackand if your doing any thing save it first19:31
Akuliif he wants to get rid of that icon he could just remove blueman...19:31
jacktrue19:31
jackfirst thing i thought to try man19:32
jackwhat i i use to do on regular ubuntu when some thing on the GUI messed up19:32
Akuliubuntu-mate_, yes, we see it. i have an imac g3 :)19:32
Akuli256mb of ram, so i wouldn't be able to run 16.04 with a gui on it :)19:33
merlin_back here agian the some fucking problem19:34
jacktell him how to take off blueman19:34
Akulimerlin_, sudo apt-get remove blueman19:34
Akulithat should be all it takes to get rid of the bluetooth icon :)19:35
merlin_ok i restart and then come back19:36
Akulidoes it need a reboot? maybe it does19:37
jackhey Akuli do you know how to set up the back round where it loops through a few different pictures19:37
jackor can mate not do that19:37
jackand it happens every time he reboots19:37
Akulione way is to just write a shell script that sets it every 30 minutes or whatever19:37
Akulioh19:37
jackit work19:38
Akuliif that's what he wants he can just make a script and add it in the autostart application thing19:38
Akulilike a script that chooses a random file19:38
jackwhat who wants19:38
jackmerlin?19:39
merlin_its dont come back the service are removed?19:39
Akuli<jack> hey Akuli do you know how to set up the back round where it loops through a few different pictures19:39
Akulimerlin_, should be19:39
merlin_my ubuntu-mate start slowly is this normal19:40
Akulijack, i would do this http://dpaste.com/15PSD8H19:40
Akulimerlin_, how slowly?19:40
Akuli14.04 might be faster because it uses upstart instead of systemd19:40
merlin_first grapfic fail than black screen than grey screnn then logon screen19:41
merlin_i have a hdd19:41
merlin_no sdd19:41
Akuliwhich of those steps is slow?19:41
merlin_black screen19:41
Akulihow many seconds is the gray screen there? like roughly19:42
Akuli5 or 20 or 6019:42
merlin_5 grey 20 black grapic fail 1019:42
merlin_i have a gtx 96019:42
jackwhat driver do you have installed?19:43
Akulido you have a menu that allows you to choose an operating system when you start?19:43
merlin_yyour means grub no i have only installed ubuntu-m and it makes diffrent i use nivida driver, with x.org is the same problem19:44
Akuliyes, i mean grub. does it display a menu?19:45
merlin_no19:45
Akuliok19:45
merlin_no memory test nothing19:46
jackhas it done this sense you installed?19:46
merlin_I have the system with the automatic wizard, as the partitioning takes over, offline, the image got and updates and made so19:49
jackhmm19:50
merlin_16.04 LTS with Kernel 4.4.0-57-generic the x64 with mate 1.12.1 desktop 8 GB RAM AMD-FX 6300 and NVIDIA GTX 96019:54
merlin_Toshiba Hard Drive, Gigabyte Mainborad,19:57
jackSSD?19:57
merlin_no HDD#19:57
merlin_old school mechanical Hard Drive SATA 3 1 TB19:58
merlin_I knows the sdds are much faster19:59
merlin_but much expensiver19:59
jackI have two xD20:00
jackand they are20:00
merlin_i was a windows nerd20:00
jacknever really had windows to use it20:02
jackwhen i did i took it off the lap top i got cuss it was slow af20:02
merlin_Windows are better for players20:03
merlin_but i dont play anymore20:03
jackplayers?20:03
jackvideo games20:03
merlin_yes20:03
merlin_i support more games than linux20:04
merlin_i have stop playing video games20:04
jackthats only true cuss they only make them for windows I think Linux would play the games batter if they made them for linux20:04
jackand why?20:04
merlin_i have seen in linux the future of personal computing in a few years and i dont have the money all 3 years a new windows to buy, and i hate spying me20:06
merlin_Windows deaing slowly20:07
merlin_my englisch is not really the best only school englisch20:08
Akulithat's fine, nobody cares about english skills in irc :)20:09
Akuliif people understand each other that's enough20:09
merlin_the best ceo of mircrosoft was Bill Gates and then the company goes down20:10
merlin_why it doesnt give notepad ++20:15
Akuliubuntu?20:16
Akulithere's plenty of great alternatives to notepad++, but if you really want notepad++ you can run it under wine20:16
sudosunduHI! I am facing a weird issue in u-mate 16.04 with mate 1.1220:20
Akulitell us20:20
merlin_what is so a alternativ20:20
Akulimerlin_, geany is probably closest to it, sudo apt-get install geany20:21
merlin_funny i used geany under windows to programm mini programmes20:21
Akulithen you know how to use it already :)20:22
sudosunduif i have opened a pdf file and home folder. I minimized the pdf. Then I just tried to increase the folder size 'decrease the view size" but i could see the pdf's menu getting change20:22
merlin_but my programming skills are really bad hello world and noting more its really compleced in c++20:24
Akulii think c++ sucks20:24
Akulipython is fun20:24
sudosunduto be precise, eventhough the pdf is minimized, when i work with some other window, that windows tool bar seems to act like it is not present20:24
Akulimerlin_, a python tutorial i have written https://github.com/Akuli/python-tutorial#python-programming-tutorial20:25
sudosunduhelp please!20:26
eduhola20:26
Akulisudosundu, i don't really see how that's a problem20:26
Akulithe pdf application is still usable, isn't it?20:26
sudosunduim sorry for bad english20:26
Akuliyour english is fine :)20:26
sudosunduI have opened control center and a pdf. Then i minimized the control center. Then if i click somewhere in pdf, i'm opening something from control center20:28
Akulioh i see20:29
sudosunduIt is like i'm interacting with control center. but I have already minized it20:29
sudosunduminimized*20:29
Akulican you shoot a short video clip of doing that?20:29
Akulikazam is an easy program for doing that20:29
sudosunduBut it is not happening everytime20:29
Akulihow many out of 10 times?20:30
sudosunduSo, i guess I would not be able to do that20:30
sudosundu2/1020:30
Akuliyou can do that, it will take about five shots20:30
Akulikind of a pain though...20:30
Akuliyour issue does indeed sound very weird, i don't really know how to help with that20:31
sudosunduHmm! But it is disturbing my work with libre office!20:31
sudosunduok I'll try to capture and come back here20:32
Akuliif you can't capture a video of it people may have hard time believing you20:32
sudosunduok i got it20:32
sudosunduthanks!20:33
amundsenhi22:09
amundseni don't like too much the default grub theme in ubuntyu mate. I'd like like to leave as a regular grub menu. I've tried to do so looking for info in google with no success22:11
bottle-popanyone out there?23:09
bottle-popI have a sound issue on a MAC PPC G523:10
bottle-poprunning the latest ubuntu mate23:11
bottle-popthe issue is no sound heh23:11
bottle-popotherwise this old dog is kicking again23:12
bottle-popand rather nicely23:12
bottle-popwell. I'll leave this running in case someone comes in and cares to help me23:13
bottle-pop*hopeful*23:19
bottle-popheh23:19

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