[00:26] <sixwheeledbeast> I'd be interested how well hibernate works if that is the case.
[00:28] <mate|19779> hi
[00:28] <mate|19779> I am new to ubuntu mate it looks good
[00:29] <mate|19779> i am thinking of moving to Linux based OS from Windows
[00:29] <mate|19779> I am an IT Pro
[00:29] <randall> cool
[00:29] <mate|19779> coming from Microsoft based background but moving into Cisco networking
[00:30] <mate|19779> I need a divorce from Microsoft
[00:30] <randall> micrisift joined the linux foundation you know
[00:30] <mate|19779> good for them....lol
[00:30] <randall> *microsoft
[00:30] <mate|19779> the whole cortana thing freaks me out lol
[00:31] <mate|19779> i need to at least adopt Ubuntu for my personal computing
[00:31] <mate|19779> may be run a VM windows machine for work
[00:40] <randall> could work
[00:41] <randall> I got amazon's "cortana" on my tablet now
[00:45] <jack_> its not as hard as people make it out to be
[00:54] <randall> I adopted linux for pure financial reasons, I was running 32 bit vista on a 64 bit machine and couldn't afford an os upgrade, but 64 bit mint 12 was free,so.....
[00:59] <jack_> lol agreed
[00:59] <jack_> windows is not worth the cost in my opinion
[01:00] <jack_> it gets viruses and melware to easy but you pay for and in linux its free and your more then likely not going to get a virus or melware
[01:01] <randall> linux malware is something you gotta be teatering on the edge of real smart and real stupid to get infected
[01:02] <randall> and prety much all the linux malwares get neutered on the next kernel update
[01:04] <jack_> can you tell how i turn the barking off xD
[01:04] <jack_> i have never seen a Linux distro do that
[01:05] <randall> go into ther pauv and mute system sounds
[01:08] <jack_> thanks
[01:08] <randall> yep
[01:09] <jack_> I thought is was kind of funny -\]\\\\\\\\\\\]\\
[01:09] <jack_> ]]]]\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[01:10] <randall> you ok man?
[01:10] <jack_> some thing got stuck in my keyboard xD
[01:10] <randall> lawl
[01:12] <jack_> does ps4 controller work on mate?
[01:14] <randall> I believe so, you may need a special driver like xboxdrv for the 360 game pad
[01:16] <randall> no wait, ps4 is bluetooth,, it might just work out of the box
[01:35] <jack_> can i use usb to hook in my desktop does not have blue tooth
[01:42] <randall> give it a try
[01:42] <randall> but bluetooth dongles are generally cheaper than wifi dongles these days
[01:44] <randall> and bluetooth headphones...this pair are not only the best quality sounding headphones I ever had,, but there's no wires for the cat to bite in half to boot
[01:45] <jack_> lol
[01:47] <randall> if it's not to big a shock to the old wallet, the commercial for the new beats bluetooth headphones touts 40 hours listening time
[02:02] <jack_> never used beats before
[02:04] <randall> same
[02:27] <jack_> should games that work for regular Ubuntu work on mate?
[02:27] <jack_> from steam
[02:30] <randall> yes, steam games with linux support just work,, steam takes care of the dirty work
[02:31] <jack_> that is awesome
[02:32] <jack_> you play any games?
[02:32] <jack_> from steam that are on-line?
[02:34] <randall> no actual good online games for linux on steam sadly
[02:34] <randall> I play sso in wine though
[02:35] <randall> ddo
[02:35] <jack_> you should check out Insurgency if you like FPS
[02:36] <jack_> its on steam for 2$
[02:37] <randall> not a big online fps fan, or moba, or anything pvp, guess I'm just not that competitive
[02:42] <jack_> I wish they would do it for fall out 4 and skyrim xD
[02:43] <randall> yeah, the good folks at bethesda used dx10 for fallout 4 and skyrim se
[02:43] <randall> wine only supports dx9
[02:43] <jack_> I know x(
[02:44] <jack_> and they did not port it to linux on steam
[02:44] <randall> zenemax as a whole has taken so many huge dumps pn the linux community that we may never get that smell out of the fabrics
[02:44] <jack_> most not think theres enough money to be made to be worth the time
[02:45] <jack_> zenemax?
[02:45] <randall> every id game either has been ported to linux, or could be,, and zenemax made all that just "go away"
[02:46] <randall> zenemax is the parent company of bethesda and id
[02:47] <randall> even their dos based games pre-morrowind could effortlessly be given a dosbox wrapper and released to us penguins, but they haven't
[02:49] <randall> doom 1,2,3 all are all not only possible in linux but already done, by someone else, but not officially from zenemax/bethesda/ud
[02:49] <randall> doom 2016 is already in vulcan, before that was opengl
[02:51] <jack_> the new doom made by them was made in linux i think
[02:53] <randall> not publicly available in linux though
[02:54] <jack_> what xD
[02:55] <randall> I firmly believe had ID still been independant, all things doom would be available as linux ports
[02:55] <randall> zenemax by virtue of action has pretty much given the finger to linux
[02:55] <az> hello, I do not see partitions in my sidepanel any more in file browser
[02:56] <randall> are they mounted?
[02:56] <jack_> they make the game in linux and don't let people on linux play it garbage
[02:56] <az> I do not recall doing any change to settings. randall they are not mounted but they were showing before so I can mount them easily
[02:56] <randall> youd'd be suprised what's made in linux and only released in windows
[02:57] <jack_> hmm
[02:57] <randall> brb
[02:57] <jack_> you have gparted?
[02:57] <jack_> so we can tell if there mounted or not
[02:59] <az> jack_, they are not mounted I'm sure, they do not get mounted tell I request it
[02:59] <jack_> just making sure
[02:59] <az> I have gparted it's opening now
[03:00] <jack_> you sure you didnt run a bad command and repartition them by mistake?
[03:00] <az> I hope so
[03:03] <az> they are there
[03:09] <jack_> but there no in devices
[03:09] <jack_> not
[03:09] <jack_> try rebooting
[03:09] <jack_> see if that fixes it
[03:10] <az> well, one reason to get linux is not to reboot. I do not think this will fix it
[03:10] <az> I did reboot this morning
[03:11] <jack_> where they there before you did reboot?
[03:12] <randall> true, the only reason a linux machine should ever have to reboot would be a kernel update
[03:13] <randall> I went nearly a month once
[03:13] <az> jack_, no
[03:14] <jack_> I dont like leaving my computer on that can cause ram bleeding or is that6 just windows thing
[03:14] <randall> just windows
[03:15] <jack_> dude thanks for telling me that
[03:16] <az> in linux if there is a problem you can get to the source of it. because it's not a trade secret. thus debugging issues and getting to the source of the problem should be welcomed
[03:17] <jack_> i really dont know why it will not show his partitions in the file browser
[03:17] <Artemis3> randall, in any case skyrim runs just fine with wine
[03:18] <randall> Artemis3, vanilla skyrim does
[03:20] <jack_> can you mod it?
[03:20] <jack_> and it still run
[03:24] <randall> jack_, if you mod skyrim in wine you're playing russian roulette, there's no boos or loot
[03:25] <randall> boss
[03:40] <jack_> damn
[03:40] <jack_> why x(
[03:40] <jack_> its one of the best parts of skyrim
[03:40] <randall> boss used to work, but became defunct, loot never worked
[03:41] <randall> and besides the workshop, to my knowklege there are no functioning mod organizors
[03:42] <randall> O'm sure Artemis3 could correct me if I'm mistaken
[03:44] <randall> I'm not certian if you can alt-tab out if you use a virtual desktop, never occurred to me to test it
[03:45] <randall> tbh if I had a console that played skyrim I'd be doing that instead of compromising in wine
[03:55] <jack_> i have windows on another SSD
[03:56] <jack_> just paranoid  its infected with melware that the anti virus cant find
[03:56] <jack_> cuss it ran fine on the net when i first built my desk top now it is strangely slow
[03:57] <randall> well, normally I'd duggrsy clamav, but how to get it to scan a different drive? that kind of console sorcery is beyond my understanding
[03:57] <randall> *suggest
[03:58] <jack_> you have to have it dual booted with windows
[03:59] <jack_> I dont think you can scan another drive
[03:59] <jack_> clam AV open source?
[04:02] <jack_> i may be wrong about the dual boot thing i just dont see why you cant cuss you can get to your windows files when dual booted
[04:03] <randall> clam av is opensource, it's to my knowlege the only antivirus available in linux
[04:34] <az> randall, the only open source antivirus available for linux maybe, but not there are multiple commercial options too
[04:38] <randall> az, he said he's tooparanoid to boot into his windows drive,, so linux av would be the only option
[05:04] <az> I do not know if I got you clearly but what I meant to say is that there are commercial antivirus applications for linux
[05:08] <odroid> I've installed odoo ver 10 on odroid c2 running mate 16.04.  How do I find the physical path to the webserver that odoo is using?
[05:09] <odroid> Wanting to use the webserver for sites in addition to odoo.
[05:10] <odroid> To access the odoo server, I enter localhost:8069 in the address bar of my browser
[06:02] <redmatria> Hi
[06:02] <redmatria> "The solution (so they say) is to set the monitor brightness level to 100% thus preventing any possible screen flicker from the DC modulation and instead adjust the brightness and contrast levels in your GPU settings."
[06:02] <redmatria> Do you know how to adjust this using Ubuntu MATE?
[06:07] <stickybranches> Hello! :D
[06:08] <stickybranches> I'd just like to say, I've been rocking Ubuntu 16.04 LTS for a while (old Arch user) and it has been a joyful experience! Thank you Martin Wimpress and his crew! Also thank you Canonical! :D
[06:15] <redmatria> www.testufo.com/blurtrail#foreground=FFFFFF&background=000000&thickness=1&height=480&ppf=64&separation=1000
[06:15] <redmatria> Do you see multiple lines here?
[06:46] <mate|10185> Hi
[06:47] <mate|10185> thanks for the community for such a great distro
[06:47] <mate|10185> im using ubuntu mate 16.04
[06:47] <mate|10185> can i upgrade mate to 1.16 version
[06:48] <mate|10185> currently battery backup is great. Will upgrading mate cause any issues
[06:48] <mate|10185> ?/
[06:55] <mate|10185> Sorry for asking such questions
[06:55] <mate|10185> But I am looking for stability
[06:56] <mate|10185> I saw that some bugs were ironed out in 1.16, thats the reason i'm askng
[07:02] <mate|10185> wow thanks!
[07:19] <redmatria> I am also looking for a new monitor that is very easy on my eyes.
[07:19] <redmatria> My current one bugs my eyes. Apparently a low haze or glossy screen can reduce eye strain.
[07:28]  * randall suggests redshift
[07:38] <redmatria> Funnily I use Ubuntu MATE and am quite a heavy mate drinker, probably like most of our best coders.
[07:41] <redmatria> I'm looking for a GLOSSY monitor. Why are these so rare nowadays?
[07:47] <redmatria> I found this thread on glossy screens. https://hardforum.com/threads/the-new-glossy-ah-ips-dell-s2415h.1836144/
[07:48] <redmatria> I had a glossy NEC screen years back. It was beautiful.
[08:51] <kiwi_> hi... i just installed the mate desktop packages on ubuntu 16.04. But the display manager (login) shows no option for choosing a MATE seesion. any ideas?
[09:27] <javier_> Hola
[09:28] <javier_> Necesito ayuda. no encuentro la aplicación escritor de discos
[09:33] <ouroumov> !es | javier_
[09:38] <javier_> gracias
[15:22] <sudosundu> Hello!
[15:22] <sudosundu> Will ubuntu mate 16.04 get mate 1.16
[15:23] <sudosundu> I mean like 1.14 upgrade?
[15:26] <Akuli> i have no idea. do you need mate 1.16?
[15:26] <sudosundu> yes
[18:04] <mate|91613> Anyone else having problems getting Virtualbox to work?
[18:06] <nomic> y doesn't it work
[18:06] <nomic> does it not work with a specific iso
[18:06] <nomic> virtualbox works
[18:07] <Akuli> mate|91613, what do you want to run in virtualbox and how are you trying to do that?
[18:08] <mate|91613> Ubuntu Mate 16.10 ... I run "apt-get install virtualbox" ... and there is error:  modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why
[18:09] <Akuli> hmm
[18:09] <Akuli> ok
[18:09] <Akuli> virtualbox does all kinds of weird stuff when you install it, you could try qemu instead but i have no experience with it
[18:11] <nomic> use synaptic to install virtualbox
[18:11] <nomic> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[18:11] <nomic> then search for virtualbox
[18:11] <nomic> app is 'virtualbox-ose'
[18:11] <nomic>  .. install
[18:11] <nomic> virtualbox works
[18:12] <Akuli> nomic, he quit already and synaptic wouldn't make a difference at all
[19:07] <odroid> nick
[19:12] <ubuntu-mate_> Just checking if this is working. MAC PPC G5 live CD running. Anyone confirm reading this?
[19:13] <ubuntu-mate_> Seems stable to me. I guess I'll go ahead with the install. Thought I would see if there were any other PPC users
[19:18] <jack> is there a way to set your background to change pictures like in windows
[19:18] <jack> i don't remember what you call it xD
[19:20] <merlin_> hello
[19:21] <jack> whats up
[19:21] <merlin_> i have a little problem
[19:21] <jack> tell me about it
[19:21] <jack> I may be of some assistance
[19:22] <merlin_> i have a bluetooth icon behind my wlan on my PC but i dont have a bluetooth-card
[19:22] <jack> so is saying you have blue tooth on?
[19:23] <merlin_> with out bluetooth support
[19:23] <jack> hmm
[19:24] <jack> so you want that blue tooth mark to go away correct?
[19:24] <merlin_> i can exit it but after restart it comes agian
[19:24] <merlin_> yes
[19:25] <jack> could try restarting Xorg might fix it
[19:26] <jack> you mess with any files as root?
[19:26] <jack> sudo is root if you dont know that
[19:26] <merlin_> i have just new installed for 10 min
[19:27] <jack> o ok
[19:27] <jack> just asking man xD
[19:27] <jack> or girl idk
[19:27] <jack> hold on a sec
[19:27] <merlin_> ok
[19:29] <jack> still there
[19:29] <merlin_> yes
[19:30] <jack> try this
[19:30] <jack> sudo service lightdm restart and see if that fixes it
[19:30] <jack> dont freak out its going to make your screen go black for a sec xD
[19:31] <jack> and if your doing any thing save it first
[19:31] <Akuli> if he wants to get rid of that icon he could just remove blueman...
[19:31] <jack> true
[19:32] <jack> first thing i thought to try man
[19:32] <jack> what i i use to do on regular ubuntu when some thing on the GUI messed up
[19:32] <Akuli> ubuntu-mate_, yes, we see it. i have an imac g3 :)
[19:33] <Akuli> 256mb of ram, so i wouldn't be able to run 16.04 with a gui on it :)
[19:34] <merlin_> back here agian the some fucking problem
[19:34] <jack> tell him how to take off blueman
[19:34] <Akuli> merlin_, sudo apt-get remove blueman
[19:35] <Akuli> that should be all it takes to get rid of the bluetooth icon :)
[19:36] <merlin_> ok i restart and then come back
[19:37] <Akuli> does it need a reboot? maybe it does
[19:37] <jack> hey Akuli do you know how to set up the back round where it loops through a few different pictures
[19:37] <jack> or can mate not do that
[19:37] <jack> and it happens every time he reboots
[19:37] <Akuli> one way is to just write a shell script that sets it every 30 minutes or whatever
[19:37] <Akuli> oh
[19:38] <jack> it work
[19:38] <Akuli> if that's what he wants he can just make a script and add it in the autostart application thing
[19:38] <Akuli> like a script that chooses a random file
[19:38] <jack> what who wants
[19:39] <jack> merlin?
[19:39] <merlin_> its dont come back the service are removed?
 hey Akuli do you know how to set up the back round where it loops through a few different pictures
[19:39] <Akuli> merlin_, should be
[19:40] <merlin_> my ubuntu-mate start slowly is this normal
[19:40] <Akuli> jack, i would do this http://dpaste.com/15PSD8H
[19:40] <Akuli> merlin_, how slowly?
[19:40] <Akuli> 14.04 might be faster because it uses upstart instead of systemd
[19:41] <merlin_> first grapfic fail than black screen than grey screnn then logon screen
[19:41] <merlin_> i have a hdd
[19:41] <merlin_> no sdd
[19:41] <Akuli> which of those steps is slow?
[19:41] <merlin_> black screen
[19:42] <Akuli> how many seconds is the gray screen there? like roughly
[19:42] <Akuli> 5 or 20 or 60
[19:42] <merlin_> 5 grey 20 black grapic fail 10
[19:42] <merlin_> i have a gtx 960
[19:43] <jack> what driver do you have installed?
[19:43] <Akuli> do you have a menu that allows you to choose an operating system when you start?
[19:44] <merlin_> yyour means grub no i have only installed ubuntu-m and it makes diffrent i use nivida driver, with x.org is the same problem
[19:45] <Akuli> yes, i mean grub. does it display a menu?
[19:45] <merlin_> no
[19:45] <Akuli> ok
[19:46] <merlin_> no memory test nothing
[19:46] <jack> has it done this sense you installed?
[19:49] <merlin_> I have the system with the automatic wizard, as the partitioning takes over, offline, the image got and updates and made so
[19:50] <jack> hmm
[19:54] <merlin_> 16.04 LTS with Kernel 4.4.0-57-generic the x64 with mate 1.12.1 desktop 8 GB RAM AMD-FX 6300 and NVIDIA GTX 960
[19:57] <merlin_> Toshiba Hard Drive, Gigabyte Mainborad,
[19:57] <jack> SSD?
[19:57] <merlin_> no HDD#
[19:58] <merlin_> old school mechanical Hard Drive SATA 3 1 TB
[19:59] <merlin_> I knows the sdds are much faster
[19:59] <merlin_> but much expensiver
[20:00] <jack> I have two xD
[20:00] <jack> and they are
[20:00] <merlin_> i was a windows nerd
[20:02] <jack> never really had windows to use it
[20:02] <jack> when i did i took it off the lap top i got cuss it was slow af
[20:03] <merlin_> Windows are better for players
[20:03] <merlin_> but i dont play anymore
[20:03] <jack> players?
[20:03] <jack> video games
[20:03] <merlin_> yes
[20:04] <merlin_> i support more games than linux
[20:04] <merlin_> i have stop playing video games
[20:04] <jack> thats only true cuss they only make them for windows I think Linux would play the games batter if they made them for linux
[20:04] <jack> and why?
[20:06] <merlin_> i have seen in linux the future of personal computing in a few years and i dont have the money all 3 years a new windows to buy, and i hate spying me
[20:07] <merlin_> Windows deaing slowly
[20:08] <merlin_> my englisch is not really the best only school englisch
[20:09] <Akuli> that's fine, nobody cares about english skills in irc :)
[20:09] <Akuli> if people understand each other that's enough
[20:10] <merlin_> the best ceo of mircrosoft was Bill Gates and then the company goes down
[20:15] <merlin_> why it doesnt give notepad ++
[20:16] <Akuli> ubuntu?
[20:16] <Akuli> there's plenty of great alternatives to notepad++, but if you really want notepad++ you can run it under wine
[20:20] <sudosundu> HI! I am facing a weird issue in u-mate 16.04 with mate 1.12
[20:20] <Akuli> tell us
[20:20] <merlin_> what is so a alternativ
[20:21] <Akuli> merlin_, geany is probably closest to it, sudo apt-get install geany
[20:21] <merlin_> funny i used geany under windows to programm mini programmes
[20:22] <Akuli> then you know how to use it already :)
[20:22] <sudosundu> if i have opened a pdf file and home folder. I minimized the pdf. Then I just tried to increase the folder size 'decrease the view size" but i could see the pdf's menu getting change
[20:24] <merlin_> but my programming skills are really bad hello world and noting more its really compleced in c++
[20:24] <Akuli> i think c++ sucks
[20:24] <Akuli> python is fun
[20:24] <sudosundu> to be precise, eventhough the pdf is minimized, when i work with some other window, that windows tool bar seems to act like it is not present
[20:25] <Akuli> merlin_, a python tutorial i have written https://github.com/Akuli/python-tutorial#python-programming-tutorial
[20:26] <sudosundu> help please!
[20:26] <edu> hola
[20:26] <Akuli> sudosundu, i don't really see how that's a problem
[20:26] <Akuli> the pdf application is still usable, isn't it?
[20:26] <sudosundu> im sorry for bad english
[20:26] <Akuli> your english is fine :)
[20:28] <sudosundu> I have opened control center and a pdf. Then i minimized the control center. Then if i click somewhere in pdf, i'm opening something from control center
[20:29] <Akuli> oh i see
[20:29] <sudosundu> It is like i'm interacting with control center. but I have already minized it
[20:29] <sudosundu> minimized*
[20:29] <Akuli> can you shoot a short video clip of doing that?
[20:29] <Akuli> kazam is an easy program for doing that
[20:29] <sudosundu> But it is not happening everytime
[20:30] <Akuli> how many out of 10 times?
[20:30] <sudosundu> So, i guess I would not be able to do that
[20:30] <sudosundu> 2/10
[20:30] <Akuli> you can do that, it will take about five shots
[20:30] <Akuli> kind of a pain though...
[20:31] <Akuli> your issue does indeed sound very weird, i don't really know how to help with that
[20:31] <sudosundu> Hmm! But it is disturbing my work with libre office!
[20:32] <sudosundu> ok I'll try to capture and come back here
[20:32] <Akuli> if you can't capture a video of it people may have hard time believing you
[20:32] <sudosundu> ok i got it
[20:33] <sudosundu> thanks!
[22:09] <amundsen> hi
[22:11] <amundsen> i don't like too much the default grub theme in ubuntyu mate. I'd like like to leave as a regular grub menu. I've tried to do so looking for info in google with no success
[23:09] <bottle-pop> anyone out there?
[23:10] <bottle-pop> I have a sound issue on a MAC PPC G5
[23:11] <bottle-pop> running the latest ubuntu mate
[23:11] <bottle-pop> the issue is no sound heh
[23:12] <bottle-pop> otherwise this old dog is kicking again
[23:12] <bottle-pop> and rather nicely
[23:13] <bottle-pop> well. I'll leave this running in case someone comes in and cares to help me
[23:19] <bottle-pop> *hopeful*
[23:19] <bottle-pop> heh