[00:03] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[00:05] <teward> Skeet: that... isn't a grub error, that's a packaging conflict, are you using any odd PPAs, or non-Ubuntu repositories?
[00:05] <Skeet> I'm currently booted in to boot-repair from a usb drive. My win10 partition and ubuntu partition will not boot because grub is not installed
[00:06] <Skeet> And i do not know if I am or not because I cannot boot in my ubuntu to check my repositories for unkown sources
[00:06] <PocketUser> You could use bit bleach. Does the job usually. Failing that it would be a quick script to suck out the logs... Whatever the hardware one is called
[00:08] <PocketUser> Not sure how to put time and date parameters round it tho... Those logs could be a truck in size!
[00:08] <Skeet> teward can I pm you?
[00:08] <PocketUser> Please skeet
[00:10] <itsmemario> PocketUser: is that to me?
[00:11] <waltman> I thought I'd figured out how to do raid/lvm/partition setup manually from the installer, but it's not booting. This time I took pictures! http://wlad.mawode.com/~waltman/ubuntu-install/
[00:12] <waltman> partition1.jpg and partition2.jpg are two shots of the screen because it wouldn't all fit on one screen. boot_fail.jpg shows the messages at boot.
[00:12] <teward> Skeet: sorry, my internet keeps drifting in and out, I won't be able to help too much right now.  My parents' place doesn't have decent Internet.
[00:13] <Skeet> teward No problem thanks for the response.
[00:13] <waltman> It seems like I'm close.
[00:14] <PocketUser> Jees another boot issue!
[00:14] <waltman> If I have /dev/sda and /dev/sdb mirrored, what device do I want to boot off of?
[00:15] <PocketUser> The primary one. Not the mirror
[00:15] <waltman> /dev/sda1?
[00:15] <PocketUser> Do you have sda0 and sda1
[00:15] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error while trying to repair from boot-repair live usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[00:16] <PocketUser> I'm sure you're making this up skeet!
[00:17] <Skeet> PocketUser would you like pictures to prove?
[00:17] <PocketUser> Uninstall win 10 and it'll be fine. Trust Ubuntu
[00:17] <bazhang> PocketUser, thats not helpful at all
[00:17] <waltman> Just sda1, I think.
[00:17] <bazhang> PocketUser, stop the nonsense PocketUser
[00:17] <Skeet> PocketUser: no. I have files on my win10 partition and also need it for my work
[00:18] <waltman> AND now it's not even letting me boot off the flash drive anymore? Sigh
[00:19] <drjam> yeesh
[00:19] <PocketUser> Lol how many devices have you got in there?
[00:20] <PocketUser> Just 1 raid of 2 disks?
[00:20] <waltman> 2 raids, each of 2 disks
[00:21] <waltman> Is there a key after it starts booting to use the installer?
[00:21] <waltman> there we go
[00:22] <waltman> Each drive has 1 big partition that I divided up in lvm
[00:22] <waltman> (this is why I took the pictures) :)
[00:23] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error while trying to repair from boot-repair live usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[00:23] <waltman> I'm trying to boot off the shell on the flash drive
[00:28] <waltman> My plan was to raid sda1 and sdb1, divide it up with lvm, then boot.
[00:29] <drjam> ooooh raiding party
[00:29] <drjam> oh wait, sorry, wrong raid
[00:29]  * drjam slinks back to sidelines
[00:29] <waltman> Is that a bad idea?
[00:30] <thebucket> Can someone help me with dual boot please
[00:31] <thebucket> Great another dead channel
[00:31] <Bashing-om> thebucket: Many here can . Ask the real question, please :)
[00:32] <drjam> yup
[00:32] <drjam> wish i could help, am noob
[00:32] <tehBTP> Any books you can recommend? I'm taking a long flight and I'd like to read up on linux/ubuntu to get a better understanding.
[00:33] <Skeet> Can someone assist me with fixing mygrub menu? I am currently booted in live usb "Boot-repair" and it will not auto-fix my grub because of repository issues on my ubuntu install
[00:33] <bazhang> !manual | tehBTP
[00:33] <bazhang> for books recommendations try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel tehBTP
[00:34] <Zeropedian> i tried fedora today
[00:34] <tomreyn> waltman: the partitoning scheme looks fine, but where is /boot ?
[00:34] <Skeet> Here is an error on pastbin that the live usb is throwing at me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[00:34] <bazhang> Zeropedian, how does relate to ubuntu support here
[00:35] <Zeropedian> and it's yum pckgmanager showed me every single file that was downloaded and installed
[00:35] <tehBTP> bazhang, thanks. I already got the manual for reading was looking for more in depth. thanks though.
[00:35] <Zeropedian> i wonder if i can activate such thing in ubuntu
[00:35] <tomreyn> waltman: i think you want /boot on a separate RAID device without LVM
[00:35] <xk051> Zeropedian: dpkg
[00:35] <bazhang> Zeropedian, dpkg -l
[00:35] <Zeropedian> i'll try out..thanks
[00:36] <waltman> I didn't think I needed a separate boot partition with EFI.
[00:38] <duckhead1> hey can anyone helpe with PostFIX mail server
[00:38] <waltman> hmm, maybe not. Let's try that!
[00:40] <tomreyn> waltman: no, with EFI you don't need a boot, partition, you need an efi partition
[00:41] <Zeropedian> jesus..dpkg is heavy..
[00:42] <tomreyn> or ESP rather
[00:43] <ontheline> the creepy thing about setting boot stuff - is that every mis try... LOL there you go rebooting, tweaking and rebooting
[00:45] <ontheline> a better procedure would be having redundant hardware, on for tweaking and another for booting tries... hooray
[00:48] <ontheline> do a "boot testing software" exists? like a emulator/VM that would say "ya, your FS is fine and will probably boot"..
[00:48] <tomreyn> it would be nice if part of the installer media was r/w and you could store your answers to the installer prompts there and reload them on your next try, so you you'd only need to redo those things you actually want to change, not the entire installation.
[00:49] <Ben64> ontheline: that doesn't make sense
[00:49] <tomreyn> the installer does wanr you about some obvious fallacies
[00:50] <Windowsforever> Do yourself a favour Ben and think before you type!
[00:50] <ontheline> tomreyn, that would be nice - but youre assuming an install
[00:51] <bazhang> Windowsforever, thats not helpf ul at all
[00:51] <ontheline> Ben64, the idea is like a "fs checker"
[00:51] <Ben64> like fsck?
[00:51] <ontheline> Ben64, check if a the FS have booting condition
[00:51] <Ben64> that's not something that is checkable
[00:51] <Windowsforever> Bazhang?
[00:51] <ontheline> Ben64, :D
[00:51] <Ben64> way way too many variables
[00:51] <ontheline> lol
[00:52] <Ben64> just ... boot it
[00:52] <drjam> lol
[00:52] <drjam> the irony is, ive found microsoft hyper-v to be rock solid so i can test ubuntu installs as VMs
[00:52] <ontheline> ontheline, it would involve "a piece of VM" "a piece of emulators" - maybe diffrent modules for diffrent architectures :D
[00:52] <drjam> i can suggest that as a possible support answer in ubuntu here
[00:53] <ontheline> im delirating... too much turkey - sorry guys
[00:53] <ontheline> btw - just as expression - handt any turkey this year - were on pork
[00:56] <Windowsforever> Come on ontheline grow up. We didn't come here to hear all about your vagina and the first time you bled!
[00:56] <ontheline> cya
[00:56] <ontheline> oh oh..
[00:56] <drjam> iieeww, that also was not cool for in here
[00:56] <ontheline> Windowsforever, kkkkkkkkkkkk
[00:57] <ontheline> bye
[00:57] <drjam> lol
[01:00] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error while trying to repair from boot-repair live usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[01:00] <drjam> would re-installing it help? youve got your datab backed up somewhere else right?
[01:01] <Ben64> Skeet: pastebin the output from boot-repair
[01:02] <Skeet> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23691529/
[01:02] <Ben64> uh, no
[01:03] <drjam> doh
[01:04] <spupuser> Hi, can help me with a command
[01:04] <Skeet> I dont understand what you mean then by upload a pastebin, I'm in the middle of using boot-repair and it tells me to C&P that command in a terminal and when I do it spits out the orignal pastebin that I uploaded
[01:05] <Ben64> Skeet: that doesn't make sense, it should just look at your boot information and tell you
[01:07] <Skeet> Ben64: Here it what i believe you are looking for - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691571/
[01:09] <daniel> daniel
[01:10] <daniel> coño
[01:10] <Guest62587> ok
[01:10] <Guest62587> guest625887
[01:10] <Guest62587> qye
[01:11] <Guest62587> nbh
[01:12] <Ben64> Skeet: how is this an ubuntu issue? says there you're running kali
[01:14] <Skeet> Because it is ubuntu and not kali. If I could boot in the system I can screenshot the desktop and show you. I do not know why it states Kali
[01:16] <kaleo_> hello
[01:19] <kaleo_>  /ns register kaleozhou  kaleo1990@hotmail.com
[01:21] <kk4ewt> kaleo_, change your password now
[01:29] <MarcoP> nice pass and email :)
[01:29] <kaleo_> #xiangtingkeji
[01:31] <carlyanna> hey guys I need some help. I currently am running 16.04 ubuntu desktop. I made a signifigant mistake earlier today...I was trying to download lubuntu 64 to my USB stick so that I can install on other computer. I tried deleting all of the files on the USB (I had used this usb as a boot device on another computer recently and wantd to use it for a different boot on new computer). Anyway I right clicked and saw I could "zero out" the U
[01:31] <carlyanna> now I don't know how to fix the USB
[01:32] <carlyanna> I've downloaded GPARTED and have /debsdb1 showing a red flag and then an unallocated partition listed
[01:32] <carlyanna> can anyone help
[01:32] <bazhang> carlyanna, you tried to dl ot a live usb?
[01:32] <bazhang> carlyanna, not a persistent one?
[01:32] <carlyanna> not sure what you mean, I just wanted to erase what was on the USB and I clicked
[01:32] <carlyanna> the "replace with zeros" option
[01:33] <carlyanna> and now it's not being recognized, the USB
[01:33] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent carlyanna
[01:33] <Ben64> well you erased it
[01:33] <Ben64> create a new partition if you want
[01:33] <carlyanna> is ther a way to make it a normal blank USB again?
[01:34] <GALL0> Ubuntu 16.04.1 server, no GUI. edit `/etc/samba/smb.conf`  with http://pastebin.com/Rb5rVSU7 at the end. restarted samba service, can't connect via finder/OS X
[01:34] <tenX> carlyanna: it is really blank right now
[01:34] <Ben64> carlyanna: gparted
[01:34] <carlyanna> yep downloaded gparted
[01:34] <carlyanna> but whats with the red flag
[01:35] <Ben64> who knows, we can't see it
[01:35] <bazhang> carlyanna, are you trying to use gparted on a running system
[01:35] <sruli> carlyanna: post the otput of lsblk to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <tenX> carlyanna: basically the drive is missing any partition and file system now and will not be recognized as an accessable device
[01:41] <carlyanna> sruli: what do you mean post the output
[01:41] <carlyanna> bazhang: i am using gparted on a running system to try and fix my usb stick
[01:42] <carlyanna> tenX: so i basically made it a useless piece of plastic?
[01:42] <carlyanna> or is it fixable
[01:42] <bazhang> carlyanna, is the system running on the usb or where
[01:42] <carlyanna> lol
[01:42] <sruli> carlyanna: in the terminal execute "lsblk" copy the output and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <tenX> carlyanna: it is easily fixed
[01:43] <tenX> carlyanna: you simply have to create one or more partitions and format it
[01:44] <tenX> carlyanna: with a file system of your choice
[01:47] <GALL0> Ubuntu 16.04.1 server, no GUI. edit `/etc/samba/smb.conf`  with http://pastebin.com/Rb5rVSU7 at the end. restarted samba service, can't connect via finder/OS X
[01:48] <cfhowlett> !server | GALL0
[01:48] <GALL0> thanks
[01:48] <GALL0> ?join #ubuntu-server
[01:49] <cfhowlett>        /join
[01:53] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu slow
[01:53] <ubuntu-mate> eh gnome slow ding
[01:53] <bazhang> which part is slow ubuntu-mate
[01:54] <bazhang> give us the exact details please ubuntu-mate
[01:54] <ubuntu-mate> desktop environment..
[01:54] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, install lxde or xfce.  logout, choose your DE and login
[01:54] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate, yes, thats not clear at all, we need the exact details
[01:55] <ubuntu-mate> i'm sorry..  it's not ubuntu.. it's Unity..
[01:55] <ubuntu-mate> Unity slow.
[01:55] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, same suggestion: install xfce4 or lxde.
[01:56] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate, same suggestion: install xfce4 or lxde. ==> yeah.. i'am using ubuntu mate now..  it's fast.
[01:56] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate, again thats not clear what exact issues you are having, please stop repeating the same 'slow'
[01:57] <realm174> Hi all. Ubuntu 16.10, I previously had an older ATI card. Just put in a GTX950, but all I get is a black screen. No login screen or anything.  I know the card works, I'm using in in Windows (dual boot). Anything special I need to do to get Ubuntu to see the new video card?
[01:57] <bazhang> what are the system specs ubuntu-mate , what ram, which cpu, which gpu, what drivers installed from where
[01:58] <cfhowlett> realm174, first try nomodeset to get your desktop operational
[01:58] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[01:59] <realm174> Thanks gentlemen, I'll go try that! :)
[01:59] <realm174> (or ladies... sorry for the assumption)
[02:07] <nmw> can someone help with a lubuntu update 16.04 to 16.10 issue?
[02:08] <Ben64> only if  you explain the issue
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !help | nmw
[02:08] <nmw> well, it seemed to error, but lsb_release -a says it's on 16.10 but synaptic says "lubuntu-desktop" is a broken package
[02:09] <nmw> something about "gnome software center" not being installed and some more items but I don't know where the log file is
[02:09] <mathFreak> hey
[02:09] <mathFreak> where can i get a list of freenode chanels
[02:09] <mathFreak> channels
[02:10] <nmw> and I'm afraid to reboot
[02:10] <cfhowlett> nmw, first let's get good info.  sudo apt update && sudo apt do-release-upgrade | pastebinit
[02:13] <dian_> LIST
[02:14] <nmw> oh wow this is more broken then it thought...looks like I can't even install pastebinit
[02:15] <nmw> lubuntu-desktop has unmet dependencies
[02:15] <nmw> that's the error there
[02:15] <cfhowlett> nmw, pastebinit should be there.  let's try an alternative: sudo do-release-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:16] <nmw> "no new release found"
[02:17] <cfhowlett> nmw, good.  sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999           <<< use the paste this time please.
[02:25] <eelstrebor> tomreyn, i  got my problem resolved - i didn't know about the passthru option for the dvd drive - i checked the box and now the windows 10 guest sees the game
[02:25] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: so the screenshots helped, i was hoping so
[02:29] <Scoop_> Hello everyone. Have a extreme situation. I executed "sudo /* ../" And the long story short I am looking for some specific folder with files that used to  be in /home/user~ alongside with download, desktop, images etc is it possible to find them? Because I am having a really hard time here.
[02:29] <tomreyn> "sudo /* ../" - what is this supposed to do?
[02:30] <Scoop_> sorry "sudo mv /* ../"
[02:31] <tomreyn> ugh
[02:31] <tomreyn> which directory where you in when you did this?
[02:31] <Scoop_> i did this in /var/www/html/website/project
[02:32] <tomreyn> so /var/www/html/website/project now contains most directories which were previously stored below /
[02:32] <Scoop_> yes
[02:32] <tomreyn> so you should probably move them back
[02:33] <Scoop_> but my desired home/user~ folder are not present from the first look
[02:33] <tomreyn> /home/user~ will currently be at /var/www/html/website/project/home/user~
[02:35] <Scoop_> I should also mention that my ubuntu 16.04 crashed (had a dual boot with win 10) and win 10 also... I am know writing from recovered win 8 and I am searching with windows search the ubuntu partition
[02:35] <tomreyn> so, just to make sure we're agreeing on this: you are aware that you moved important parts of the operating system to a location where it won't be found during boot? i.e. unless you move those directories back to where they came from this system won't boot, and probably will fail for other reasons, too
[02:37] <tomreyn> you are searching through the ubuntu partition from within windows? how would this work? windows does not (natively) understand linux supported file systems (other than vfat, ntfs)
[02:37] <Scoop_> I agree but the OS is at the least concern, just want to find important files. But... you're saying i can manually move those files to root and try booting ubuntu ?
[02:38] <Scoop_> tomreyn i am using a 3rd party program  Paragon ExtFS for Windows
[02:38] <tomreyn> you can try, unless you changed other things it should work, given you make no mistakes while moving things back
[02:38] <tomreyn> i see
[02:41] <tomreyn> i have no experience with this paragon extfs software, cannot tell whether it can move files on ext4 (i asuspect that's what you have there) file systems, or whether it can do so reliably
[02:41] <waltman> I tried making /boot a separate partition, but it's still failing to boot.
[02:42] <waltman> Here's my current setup: https://gist.github.com/waltman/bb0a3279731b488221e480acb953aae8
[02:43] <Scoop_> tomreyn just one more thing - the folders appeared in var/www/html/website not  var/www/html/website/project . That logical, right? The command was "sudo mv /* ../"
[02:43] <waltman> everything except the swap space is ext4
[02:44] <tomreyn> Scoop_: yes that's logical, since the ".." path specification refers to the parent directory.
[02:46] <tomreyn> waltman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/353683/uefi-partitioning-for-dummies#answer
[02:49] <tomreyn> as i mentioned earlier, you don't need /boot, you need an ESP. which needs to be fat32 formatted (but i think the installer will do this automatically if you configure it to be ESP/EFI).
[02:50] <tomreyn> see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:50] <zhou_xingyu> hello everyone
[02:51] <zhou_xingyu> https://paste.gnome.org/puncr2uhv
[02:51] <zhou_xingyu> may you help me with it?
[02:57] <tomreyn> zhou_xingyu: what does this return? lsb_release -sd; uname -m
[02:58] <tomreyn> zhou_xingyu: looks like your system time / date is very wrong, your computer thinks it's the year 2012
[03:00] <ddoobb> Hi. I installed Ubuntu on an old Vista laptop as dual boot and initially Ubuntu ran very well but now it has slowed to unusable levels and even crashes now and then. I have reinstalled once but that didn't help. What can I do. Given how slow Ubuntu is I'd rather go back to using Vista than reinstall Ubuntu.
[03:04] <tomreyn> ddoobb: maybe your disk is falling apart, or the file system ran full or almost full. but without more details, speculation is the only approach one can take here.
[03:08] <ddoobb> tomreyn: So what should I do to look for a solution?
[03:08] <az> Hello, I'm not seeing my partitions on sidebar anymore. they are there but not showing as mountable as usual in file manager
[03:09] <tomreyn> ddoobb: check your log files, start with /var/log/syslog - see whether there are error reported, and which. you can post the latest logfile online using !pastebinit for others here to review
[03:09] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | ddoobb
[03:09] <sugoiryu> hello the package rtl8812au-dkms will not install correctly
[03:11] <tomreyn> !smart | ddoobb
[03:12] <tomreyn> ddoobb: ^ you can try this to check whether your disk is falling apart - which is actually very likely on a laptop which cam eith windows vista pre-installed, since it's so old
[03:13] <tomreyn> ddoobb: in case you would consider replacing parts or all of the hardware, check with the folk in ##hardware for suggestions
[03:13] <ddoobb> tomreyn thanks im gonna check smartmontools
[03:14] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: provide more details, try installing it on a command line and post the output to a !pastebin
[03:14] <tomreyn> !pastebin | sugoiryu
[03:14] <tomreyn> ddoobb: to see how full your disks are, just use: df -h && df -i
[03:15] <tomreyn> none of the percentages should be between 95% and 100 %
[03:15] <tomreyn> anything above 90% may result in noticable slowdowns
[03:16] <tenX> tomreyn: you should really replace an hdd of that age before it is too late
[03:16] <tenX> tomreyn: meant to address at ddoobb sry
[03:17] <tomreyn> tenX: it's not minie, but yes, sugoiryu should if it has that age. which is why i suggested talking to people in ##hardware for partial or full hardware replacements
[03:17] <tomreyn> whoops, ddoobb, not sugoiryu
[03:17] <tenX> tomreyn: ;)
[03:17]  * tomreyn getting sleepy
[03:18] <ddoobb> tomreyn: they're all fairly below 95%
[03:18] <tenX> ddoobb: in case you want to keep that old hardware you might exchange the old disk with a ssd
[03:19] <_Marek_> hi all
[03:19] <xangua> Hi, happy new year
[03:19] <tenX> xangua: what time zone is that?
[03:19] <_Marek_> does anyone know gmp mpfr mpc are missing on my ubuntu system? they are part of gcc compiler
[03:20] <tomreyn> ddoobb: yet another excplanation might be that the fans are broken or too jammed with dust so they run too slow, making the cpu  limit itself (runing sloweR) to prevent from running hot.
[03:20] <tomreyn> _Marek_: did you mean to put the word "why" in there?
[03:21] <_Marek_> tomreyn: yes i did sorry for that
[03:21] <waltman> Boot failed once again.
[03:21] <Scoop_> @tomreyn tried to boot ubuntu got an error dev/sda9 problem...
[03:21] <ddoobb> can I check cpu temps from terminal?
[03:21] <tenX> tomreyn: that should be noisy and might be temporarily worked around with a vacuum cleaner ;)
[03:22] <_Marek_> strangely enough i get GNU Awk 4.1.3, API: 1.1 (GNU MPFR 3.1.4, GNU MP 6.1.0)
[03:22] <tomreyn> Scoop_: your best bet is probably to reinstall.
[03:22] <waltman> is there a flag to set the partition to EFI? I didn't see any option for that in the installer's partition screen.
[03:22] <tomreyn> _Marek_: so what makes you think these parts are missing?
[03:22] <Scoop_> but tried to look further through win8 to ubuntu partition and discovered that my ubuntu files are encryped and linked, but looks like they are somewhere there - do you know what my second steps should be?
[03:23] <_Marek_> tomreyn: im unable to find them in /usr/lib(32,64) via a script
[03:23] <tomreyn> tenX: yes, works sometimes. or you just wait until the dust bursts up in flames, works, too.
[03:24] <tenX> tomreyn: wow thats way more flashy i guess
[03:24]  * tomreyn tested successfully
[03:24] <ddoobb> Also, can I get anything useful from this dialog http://i.imgur.com/S29Lzzj.png
[03:24] <ddoobb> it showed after crash
[03:25] <tomreyn> Scoop_: are you possibly referring to the contents of your home directory and home directory encryption (using ecryptfs)?
[03:25] <Scoop_> https://postimg.org/image/b0id26cw7/   tomreyn
[03:25] <Scoop_> yes!
[03:26] <tomreyn> read README.txt ;)
[03:26] <tomreyn> !encrypted | Scoop_
[03:27] <tomreyn> this should contain an explanation on how to recover the data.
[03:27] <Scoop_> THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.  From the graphical desktop, click on:  "Access Your Private Data"  or  From the command line, run:  ecryptfs-mount-private
[03:28] <sugoiryu> hello the package rtl8812au-dkms will not install correctly: http://pastebin.com/XZ0FyiyU
[03:29] <Scoop_> i found this text in usr/share/encryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.txt   (it was pointed from the readme.txt )
[03:29] <tomreyn> ddoobb: that's just an application crash, nothing impacting the system as a whole. and i *think* (not sure) that especially "gnome-software" is not very stable in ubuntu 16.04 (and other linux distributions released around the time)
 sugoiryu: provide more details, try installing it on a command line and post the output to a !pastebin
[03:30] <tomreyn> ^ sugoiryu: still the same
[03:30] <tomreyn> Scoop_: check the wiki, too
[03:30] <sugoiryu> i get same output from command line
[03:32] <sugoiryu> i did put the output to pastebin
[03:32] <ddoobb> OK, just checked temperatures, is this too high? http://pastebin.com/iw1tNxUX
[03:33] <ddoobb> syslog here http://pastebin.com/xcP5SCiY
[03:33] <Scoop_> tomreyn i will try this http://www.r-studio.com/Data_Recovery_From_Encrypted_Linux_Disk.shtml  What do you think?
[03:33] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: sorry i had missed the pastebin output
[03:33] <sugoiryu> tomreyn, oh ok
[03:34] <ddoobb> tomreyn: but my system did shut down though because of that crash
[03:34] <ddoobb> i got that screen after it restarted
[03:36] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtl8812au/+bug/1613009
[03:37] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtl8812au/+bug/1629235
[03:38] <tomreyn> or rather: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1595765
[03:38] <tomreyn> these bug reports contain some workarounds
[03:39] <sugoiryu> hmm ok thanks.. will try the github link from there
[03:39] <kylie> Hello all
[03:39] <Scoop_> tomreyn waiting for your advice about the url i posted :)
[03:40] <kylie> I'm having some issues with Ubuntu 16.10.
[03:41] <tomreyn> Scoop_: i do not know "R-Studio Agent for Linux" and cannot comment on whether or not it is going to produce the intended result. i did point you to a wiki page which should have instruction son how to recover data from an ecrypts file system.
[03:41] <kylie> When I open the Unity search, it takes a long time to open. And the text in the search bar does not clear when I finish searching.
[03:41] <tomreyn> kylie: hi. please describe the issue.
[03:41] <tomreyn> sugoiryu: good luck
[03:41] <sugoiryu> ah cool that 1 built and works great.. though it aint dkms
[03:42] <Scoop_> tomreyn which one wiki site? Do you have an url?
[03:42] <sugoiryu> tomreyn, ty ive had awesome luck :)
[03:42] <kylie> Just to clarify, sometimes it takes a long time to open. Other times, it doesn't.
[03:43] <Scoop_> kylie if you want to be on the same boat as I am - try "sudo mv /* ../"    Then you will understand what real problems are :D
[03:44] <kylie> Scoop_, That's not helpful, and um at "real problems." Each problem is valued here.
[03:44] <tomreyn> !encrypted | Scoop_
 Scoop_: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[03:45] <tomreyn> Scoop_: ^ this
[03:45] <tomreyn> (i had posted this before)
[03:46] <Scoop_> Thanks a million tomreyn, kylie sorry.
[03:47] <tomreyn> Scoop_: please don't give bad advice here, even jokingly, it's too dangerous.
[03:47] <tomreyn> and you're welcome
[03:48] <tomreyn> kylie: sorry i porbably can't help, lacking experience with unity.
[03:48] <tomreyn> kylie: you could check ~/.xession-errors for hints on what is going wrong, though
[03:48] <kylie> OK, if someone is willing to help please do!
[03:48] <tomreyn> maybe /var/log/Xorg.*.log too
[03:48] <kylie> tomreyn, looking now.
[03:50] <kylie> Hm, I'm not sure that xsession-errors says anything relevant to this. I'll pastebin both and we'll see what happens
[03:50] <kylie> !paastebin
[03:50] <kylie> !pastebin
[03:51] <kylie> xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23692316/
[03:53] <kylie> Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23692321/
[03:53] <FatherWh0> I have an ubuntu external that's become unbootable from drive errors and for some reason my install disk isn't offering reinstall.
[03:54] <FatherWh0> what's my best bet for repair?
[03:56] <tomreyn> kylie: this "unity-settings-daemon main process ended, respawning" seems to point at a (yet undetermined) underlying issue. you may want to try and find out why it keeps ending and respawning. my (limited) understanding is that it should be run once during graphical login and remain running until you logout, or until X exits.
[03:56] <tomreyn> i'm not sure how to diagnose it further, however
[03:56] <FatherWh0> I'm booted to the install cd. the desktop there a good place to repair?
[03:57] <tomreyn> kylie: Xorg.0.log looks ok to me
[03:57] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: yes, or the temrinal there
[03:58] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: what kind of drive errors? by "an ubuntu external", do you mean an external disk drive?
[03:59] <FatherWh0> yes, it's a passport. I've forgotten the exact error. I'd have to restart to it to see. Should I or should I attempt some kind of repair while I've got the desktop up?
[03:59] <waltman> install failed AGAIN
[04:00] <waltman> When I get to the point where it asks me where to install grub, is it /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[04:00] <crazyhorse18> hey all.. i want to copy off all my photos of my iphone.. and it doesnt' seem to work with ubuntu 14.04... anyone know a fix?
[04:00] <crazyhorse18> or some software i can download
[04:00] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: you can try diagnosing from where you are. are you somewhat comfortabler with using a terminal?
[04:01] <kylie> tomreyn, yeah, I'm not sure how to diagnose it further either. For now, do you have any suggestions on what I can do to work around this, such as using GNOME instead of Unity?
[04:01] <Aquaholic> Hello?
[04:01] <crazyhorse18> it used to work but i think apple has changed something in iOS 10
[04:01] <tomreyn> hello!
[04:02] <Aquaholic> I seem to be having an issue with a USB that I DD'd an ISO onto - it now shows as unallocated and only 1.5GB - supposed to be 16.
[04:02] <tomreyn> kylie: you could try a different desktop environment, sure. apt-cache search '.*-desktop$' for a selection (not all of these are desktop environments, read the descritive texts)
[04:03] <xangua> crazyhorse18: two tips about using iPhone and Ubuntu: try to keep latest Ubuntu release and hold off iOS updates for at least 6 months
[04:03] <tomreyn> waltman: /dev/sda most likely.
[04:04] <waltman> That's what I'm doing.
[04:04] <waltman> I updated my partition description: https://gist.github.com/waltman/bb0a3279731b488221e480acb953aae8
[04:05] <FatherWh0> tomreyn: trufully I don't know enough about linux to know the commands even. I'm a windows person just getting started in the linux world.
[04:05] <kylie> tomreyn, I looked, and I'm not sure if I'm seeing anything that matches a GNOME option? Likee replacing the desktop environmeent is what I mean
[04:05] <waltman> The error I'm getting is 'volume group "ssd-vg" not found'
[04:05] <FatherWh0> tomreyn: that said I prefer command lines.
[04:06] <tomreyn> !terminal | FatherWh0
[04:06] <kylie> Oh, MATE may be it (from the answer by ubottu), looking again
[04:06] <Aquaholic> Or CTRL+ALT+T works on most
[04:06] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: you can do a file system check (fsck) on all partitions / file systems on your disk
[04:07] <tomreyn> !fsck | FatherWh0
[04:07] <kylie> OK, I see MATE now.
[04:07] <kylie> Installing...
[04:07] <kylie> After I install, how do I remove Unity?
[04:07] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: ... and you can inspect the S.M.A.R.T. data to get an idea of the health of the drive, too.
[04:07] <tomreyn> !smart | FatherWh0
[04:09] <xangua> kylie: I believe the mate desktop site has commands to remove unity and gnome components, but it's better just to leave it alone or fresh install Ubuntu mate
[04:09] <Aquaholic> So uh, just wondering, how can I expand the unallocated space to fill what it's supposed to have?
[04:09] <waltman> I finally got to a shell prompt, but I can't do very much
[04:09] <tomreyn> kylie: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <waltman> I'm not sure how I could try to manually mount a drive to see what /etc looks like.
[04:10] <xangua> tomreyn: that will only remove a metapackage
[04:10] <kylie> xangua, I guess the better question then would be, how do I *switch* from Unity to MATE? Is there an option when I login with  lightdm?
[04:11] <xangua> kylie: I just arrived so I don't know what you're up to/whywant to switch from unity to mate
[04:11] <tomreyn> xangua, kylie: true, kylie should follow it up with: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[04:12] <tomreyn> kylie: but indeed you probably dont need to uninstall unity unless disk space is a concern. you can select the desktop environment to login to at the graphical login prompt.
[04:12] <kylie> xangua, Unity isn't working properly, and so far no one knows how to fix it. By switch, I just mean not starting Unity when I login
[04:12] <waltman> I've run out of things to try.
[04:12] <Aquaholic> Uh - okay - I tried to overwrite the first 512 bits with zeroes, and now a 16GB drive is showing up on the side, but gParted is still only showing the 1.5GB unallocated space
[04:12] <FatherWh0> tomreyn: It restarted. It did not run the check from what I can tell. i am at the command prompt now.
[04:13] <kylie> (Another problem I noticed just now: alt-tab sometimes takes forever, sometimes not.)
[04:13] <xangua> kylie: that sounds like an XY problem to me: X doesn't work, install Y
[04:13] <xangua> kylie: what are your system specs?
[04:13] <kylie> xangua, I haven't yet gotten support to fix the original problem.
[04:14] <kylie> xangua, Hmm, how can I find them? I have a Panasonic CF-C2
[04:14] <tomreyn> Aquaholic use the command 'lsblk' to identify the device name of the drive. usually something starting "sd". then run: "sudo parted /dev/sdX print 2>&1 | pastebinit" (replacing the X) and provide the url.
[04:15] <kylie> xangua, Intel integrated graphics, 4 GB ram, using ubuntu from an external hard drive
[04:15] <kylie> xangua, re the XY problem, it was a workaround due to the lack of support
[04:16] <xangua> kylie: looks more than capable of using unity or any other desktop you want, also uses Intel graphics, weird
[04:16] <kylie> xangua, Are there any other system specs you were looking for?
[04:17] <xangua> From an external drive?
[04:17] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: sorry, what restarted, i'm starting to loose track of the various issues peopel have
[04:17] <Aquaholic> Here it is Tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23692385/
[04:17] <kylie> xangua, What do you mean by your question about an external drive?
[04:17] <xangua> kylie: why using Ubuntu from an external drive? USB 2 port?
[04:17] <crazyhorse18> xangue: ah ok.. so basically need to do it on a macbook instead
[04:18] <kylie> xangua, Don't want to remove Windows 10 as I lease this computer
[04:18] <FatherWh0> tomreyn: it's ok. I took from what you told me and sorted out the commands I needed. It's fixed. :) I have desktop
[04:19] <xangua> crazyhorse18: you can also compile latest libimobiledevice
[04:19] <xangua> And keep up to date
[04:19] <kylie> xangua, I Don't know if it's a USB 2 port, good question
[04:20] <crazyhorse18> xangua: yeah i tried adding the ppa.. but didn't work on ubuntu 14.04
[04:20] <crazyhorse18> i'll try compile
[04:20] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: so that's a 16 GB device (or file?) you are looking at, with the first 1 MB used for partition table and master boot record. it has a sdingle partition on it which consumes all available space.
[04:21] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: and your goal is now what?
[04:21] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: Opening GParted, it shows that drive - the issue is it shows no partitions, only 1.5GB of unallocated space.
[04:21] <kylie> xangua, May I tell you the problem I said earlier?
[04:21] <tomreyn> FatherWh0: great, it'S glad you were able to fix it with just that.
[04:22] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: My goal is, in the end, get it back to normal in GParted, and then later make a bootable Linux drive so I can fix another computer
[04:22] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: can you show the output of: ls -l /dev/sdc
[04:23] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1680719872 Dec 27 12:13 /dev/sdc
[04:23] <FatherWh0> Might be the wrong place but anyway.. I tested out raspberry pi's new Pixel because it's supposed to be useful on older pc's. Ended up with "ldlinux.c32 failed to load" which I'm guessing is incompatibility with the hardware. Can anyone advise another release I might try for an older pc?
[04:24] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: so this is a file, not a block device node. you must have made an error replacing the device node by a file.
[04:24] <Aquaholic> So - how may I fix it? I DD'd a linux bootable disk iso onto the drive, which I'm fairly sure was the cause.
[04:25] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: this is recoverable, but  you won't be able to work with the disk which is / was sdc until you move that file out of the way and re-attach the drive
[04:25] <xangua> FatherWh0: Lubuntu
[04:26] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: Alright - how could I move that file out of the way? I know how to use the basic commands such as DD, Ls, etc.
[04:26] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: you probably tried to dd an ISO to the drive, but actually overwrote a symbolic link at this location (dd will not resolve symbolic links provided as a destination in its 'of' parameter)
[04:27] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: sudo mv /dev/sdc /tmp/  # - this assumes oyu have sufficient space available in /tmp. check available space there using: df -h /tmp
[04:27] <waltman> So I've done everything you all have suggested about trying to make a bootable system, but it still won't boot. After a minute or so the boot process gave up and dropped me to a shell prompt. Is there any way I can mount the drives and look and see what the installer did?
[04:27] <Aquaholic> 161GB Avail.
[04:28] <Aquaholic> *Tomreyn:
[04:28] <tomreyn> waltman: parted -ls
[04:28] <tomreyn> waltman: or: cat /proc/partitions
[04:28] <waltman> parted not found
[04:28] <tomreyn> waltman: or: lsblk
[04:28] <FatherWh0> xangua: thx, looks good. :0
[04:28] <FatherWh0> xangua: *:)
[04:28] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: so you can move it safely
[04:29] <waltman> all I have are sda and sdb. I *don't* have sda1 or sda2.
[04:29] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: data stored to /tmp will be deleted on next boot (by default)
[04:29] <kylie> xangua, just want to see if you have any thoughts before I  log out and into GNOME ?
[04:29] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: Alright.
[04:30] <waltman> OK, I'm going to try to get a shell prompt out of the installer and see what fdisk says.
[04:30] <waltman> but where did sda1 and 2 go?
[04:30] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: So - how do I move it?
[04:30] <tomreyn> waltman: are yuo in a fully funcational bash shell, the grub CLI, or the emergency (busybox) shell? you could take photos and upload them, which might make it possible to support you (you have this tendency to provide little information).
[04:31] <xangua> kylie: next time lease a computer with Linux?
[04:31] <waltman> What more do you want me to say besides "I only see sda and sdb"?
[04:32] <waltman> this was the emergency busybox shell.
[04:32] <tomreyn> waltman: explain what commands you ran, what output was generated
[04:32] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: still the same command: sudo mv /dev/sdc /tmp/
[04:33] <maxtype> hey yeah
[04:33] <tomreyn> waltman: sorry if i lost patience, i should probably just go to bed soon.
[04:33] <maxtype> question, is it possible to set a virtual pointing device (like a touch pad) to a static id?
[04:33] <Aquaholic> Tomreyn: Command done. What should I do now?
[04:34] <tomreyn> waltman: you may have more luck coming back with your questions later, nicely summed up as you already did on github.
[04:34] <kyliebrooks> xangua, I'm confused as to the relation here. I just don't want to remove things that I may not be allowed to remove from the internal hard drive.
[04:34] <waltman> tomreyn: I've been at this since 2 pm est. I'm feeling more than a little fried.
[04:35] <kyliebrooks> xangua, And I don't think it's the speed of the external hard drive that is the issue here
[04:35] <waltman> Having you want me to to take a picture of what's in /dev isn't helping.
[04:35] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: unmount file systems form the external disk (if you mounted any), then reattach the external disk.
[04:35] <kyliebrooks> Plus, I don't think I'm able to lease a computer with Linux unfortunately, don't have the $
[04:36] <tomreyn> Aquaholic: then check the output of 'dmsg -T | tail' - it should indicate which device node was assigned. then use "ls -a /dev/sdaX" again (again, replace X by the very character you determined)
[04:37] <kyliebrooks> So I'll logout in a few minutes. ttyl!
[04:37] <budder> attempting to install (first time). my laptop has a 128gb SSD. I shrunk 40gb from the C partition to dedicate towards Ubuntu. when I select the "install alongside Windows" I get what you see in the first pic. when i select "something else" I get what you see in the 2nd pic and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do http://imgur.com/a/ZU5l7
[04:40] <tomreyn> waltman: i'm not sure what to say. this seems to be one of your first installations using the ubuntu serve rinstaller, and you picked a somewhat complex configuration. with complexity comes proneness to error. it's not easy to get this stuff right, and usually won'T work at the first try, or first tries. reading up on how partitiojing is done in a uefi scenario with multiplke RAIDs and LVM before you tried it might have saved some time.
[04:41] <tomreyn> i can't tell OTOH what the issue is you are currently experiencing. you could try to siagnose and fix it from a live cd
[04:41] <tomreyn> (or live usb stick)
[04:41] <waltman> tomreyn: I've been at this for going on 12 hours. I did read up on raid and lvm before I started.
[04:42] <waltman> From my perspective it seems like there are 1000 special cases.
[04:42] <tomreyn> waltman: okay, that's good. it's not easy to get all of this right. i do this stuff for years and still don't usually get it done on the first try.
[04:42] <jrgilman> hey guys, I recently built a rig for my business partner and everything was great, just had issues with the graphics card (Rx 480 drivers etc) and some software so I'm looking to avoid that this go around for my new rig
[04:42] <jrgilman> anyone have a recommendation for an equivalent level graphics card that has good driver support
[04:43] <waltman> I've tried at least a dozen different configurations now. Each time it takes at least half an hour to setup, and you can't see what the installer's actually doing. It's incredibly frustrating.
[04:44] <tomreyn> i think there is an installer log file written while the installaiton takes place, you could access it by pressing ctrl-alt-f1 and logging in there (ctrl-at-f7 should return to the installer)
[04:44] <waltman> Plus half the time I can't even get it to boot from my flash drive instead of the hd.
[04:44] <tomreyn> the log file is, IIRC written to /var/log/install.log or /root/install.log once the installation completes
[04:45] <budder> i'm trying to install alongside windows and I'm not sure where to go from here. I partitioned 40GB from Windows disk management and this where I am stuck in the install http://imgur.com/a/ZU5l7
[04:47] <tomreyn> waltman: i can see how this can be frustrating. it's not unusual to hit such issues with complex configuraitons, though.
[04:49] <tomreyn> waltman: not because it's a shortcoming of linux, ubuntu or the installer (well, maybe in parts, it could be more polished here and there) but just doue to the overall complexity. are you setting this up for a hobby, for work, or just for testing / fun?
[04:49] <budder> y nobody help me
[04:49] <tomreyn> !repeat | budder
[04:50] <maxtype> question, is it possible to set a virtual pointing device (like a touch pad) to a static id?
[04:51] <budder> tomreyn: i'm trying to install alongside windows and I'm not sure where to go from here. I partitioned 40GB from Windows disk management and this where I am stuck in the install http://imgur.com/a/ZU5l7
[04:51] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I'm trying to help my brother remotely
[04:51] <cluelessperson> chromium-browser will not start in ubuntu
[04:51] <cluelessperson> I don't know why
[04:51] <budder> ubottu: i have searched and now my confusion lies in where to go from here
[04:51] <cluelessperson> I deleted  ~/.config/chromium   and ~/.cache/chromium
[04:51] <Random832> maxtype, id? like for xinput? you know you can just use the name right?
[04:51] <cluelessperson> reinstalled
[04:51] <cluelessperson> won't start
[04:51] <budder> ubottu: seriously?
[04:52] <tomreyn> budder: on the first prompt, just confirm
[04:52] <tomreyn> budder: yes, ubottu is just a bot indeed
[04:52] <budder> tomreyn: but i don't know what any of that means...
[04:52] <Aquaholic> Right - fixed @Tomreyn. Thank you very much for the help!
[04:53] <budder> tomreyn: the second window is if i select "something else" for install
[04:53] <tomreyn> budder: on the second screen, select the "free space"
[04:53] <tomreyn> ... "41944 MB"
[04:54] <cluelessperson> :/  anyone?
[04:54] <maxtype> Random832: I can? i've setup a 2 keyboard shortcuts one to enable one to disable  (xinput --enable 14), I can just use the name?
[04:54] <cluelessperson> apt-get purge chromium-browser
[04:54] <cluelessperson> apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:54] <tomreyn> budder: and /dev/sda for the boot loader
[04:54] <Random832> yes instead of 14 you can use like 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'
[04:55] <Random832> i've used this in my login scripts for disabling tap to click etc
[04:55] <tomreyn> budder: you shouldnt do "something else" though, "alongside windows" should just work fine
[04:55] <budder> tomreyn: but then i can't do anything. if I select dev/sda then I can click New Partition Table. that is all I can do on that screen
[04:55] <maxtype> Random832: neat, i'll give that a try :D thx ^5
[04:55] <xangua> cluelessperson: tried to run chromium browser from terminal and see what gives
[04:55] <xangua> ?
[04:55] <budder> tomreyn: okay the second screen is if I do "something else." the first screen is if I do "alongside Windows" but then i don't understand what any of that means
[04:56] <cluelessperson> xangua, installing now
[04:56] <cluelessperson> xangua,  /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser: error while loading shared libraries: libffmpeg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:57] <tomreyn> budder: okay, so the first screen, "alongside windows": there, the ubuntu installer automatically decides what it thinks is the best way to get ubuntu installed next to windows automatically. it then tells you what it is going to do, and asks whether you are okay with it.
[04:57] <xangua> cluelessperson: what Ubuntu release?
[04:58] <tomreyn> budder: what it plans to do is to create 2 new partitions, sda5 and sda6, botrh will be formatted, then ubuntu will be installe din sda5. sda6 will be swap.
[04:58] <cluelessperson> xangua, 16.10 Yakety
[04:58] <cluelessperson> xangua, just reinstalled ffmpeg
[04:58] <xangua> cluelessperson: I don't use chromium but usually install restricted extras and I see that installs video codecs for chromium
[04:58] <budder> tomreyn: what is the size of those? I shrunk 40gb while in windows disk management for ubuntu, and also i don't know how much it is planning to set for swap
[04:59] <tomreyn> budder: i couldn't tell fomr this output either, i think it will assign as much swap as you have RAM. and it will assign the rest of the largest unallocated space for ubuntu. i.e. it will consumke those 50 GB you made available.
[05:00] <tomreyn> * 40 GB
[05:00] <waltman> tomreyn: I'm a postdoc at Drexel in Philadelphia. We work with biologists to help then analyze 100s of gb of timelapse microscope data.
[05:00] <maxtype> like a champ, thx again !
[05:01] <tomreyn> budder: you could change this later by booting from the installer again, choosing to use the live system, and by searching starting gparted, which is a graphical utility similar to windows disk management, but it can handle linux file systems and resize them.
[05:01] <lburton> hey folks -- I hit a bit of an issue -- hitting a number of mirrors including what resolves for me for security.ubuntu.com I'm missing php7.0-fpm's security release example mirror: curl http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz | gunzip  | grep 7.0.8 | grep fpm
[05:02] <waltman> this is my lab: http://bioimage.coe.drexel.edu/mp/
[05:02] <tomreyn> waltman: great, i hope i didnt insult you then. ;) maybe tomorrow we can find some time to tra again if you like.
[05:03] <Peppernrino> so uh, i can't get 16.04 to update.
[05:03] <Peppernrino> it pings ubuntu and google fine. dns is good.
[05:03] <Peppernrino> Err:1 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[05:03] <Peppernrino>   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.canonical.com'
[05:03] <Peppernrino> keeps giving me things like that.
[05:03] <Ben64> "dns is good"  = false
[05:04] <Peppernrino> lol
[05:04] <Peppernrino> prove it
   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.canonical.com'
[05:04] <Peppernrino> what could be causing it you think
[05:04] <Peppernrino> ?
[05:04] <jrgilman> anyone here have experience with the GTX 1060 and ubuntu?
[05:04] <Ben64> probably a bad dns server
[05:05] <Peppernrino> oh maybe theirs... shit
[05:05] <kk4ewt> Peppernrino, check that address http://archive.canonical.com/
[05:05] <budder> tomreyn: okay so what do you suggest in the end, just accept the first option?
[05:06] <tomreyn> waltman: so ths is, amongst other, research into cancer - much appreciated. and so i'm willing to spend some time on this tomorrow if you like.
[05:06] <Peppernrino> kk4ewt: for what?
[05:06] <tomreyn> budder: yes
[05:06] <Peppernrino> tomreyn: do you know about BOINC?
[05:06] <waltman> tomreyn: Sure. I'm probably going to bed soon too.
[05:06] <tomreyn> budder: it's your first installation, go with the simple setting. you will be able to modify everything later on.
[05:07] <budder> tomreyn: alright thnx
[05:07] <kk4ewt> Peppernrino,  i dont see a /ubuntu
[05:07] <tomreyn> waltman: okay, try pinging me in some 8 or 10 hours
[05:07] <tomreyn> waltman: or during the 8 hours after that
[05:07] <waltman> This is interesting though. If I boot into the shell in the installer and look in /proc/partitions, I see sda, sda1 and sda2. In busybox I onlt see sda.
[05:08] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know how to support FLASH in chromium on ubuntu?
[05:08] <Peppernrino> there isn't a ubuntu. hm...
[05:08] <cluelessperson> apparently things are breaking everywhere
[05:08] <tomreyn> waltman: what the installer knows as sda and what the installed system knows as sda may be different disks / locations.
[05:09] <Peppernrino> http://archive.canonical.com/dists/xenial/
[05:09] <Peppernrino> :o
[05:09] <Peppernrino> ?
[05:09] <waltman> I did this so I found run fdisk and make sure the partitions were actually there.
[05:09] <tomreyn> waltman: if busybox only shows sda without partitions this suggests the installation didn't go right, however.
[05:10] <tomreyn> Peppernrino: i do know about BOINC, but let's not discuss it here unless it's related to ubuntu support. we can always talkin #ubuntu-pfftopic. although i'm about to rest.
[05:11] <Peppernrino> all good tomreyn
[05:11] <Peppernrino> kk4ewt: this should have worked then, no? : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-backports/
[05:11] <waltman> when I mount sda1, it says it's vfat, not fat32. also it's empty.
[05:12] <tomreyn> waltman: okay, i'm heading out, please keep the notes you made for tomorrow, you'll probably need to sum it all up again for me since i will have forgot much of it by then.
[05:13] <waltman> ok
[05:14] <tomreyn> waltman: i'll probably try to do the 'same' installation here in a VM tomorrow, this should make it easier to understand what you're looking at, and to learn where i failed, too. ;)
[05:14] <tomreyn> good night
[05:14] <simonealex> !list
[05:17] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu 16.04 has wine-1.6. is it possible that it offers a higher version in the future?
[05:21] <Ben64> yao_ziyuan: no
[05:21] <yao_ziyuan> Ben64: thanks
[05:22] <yao_ziyuan> i'm currently in ubuntu 16.04 (upgraded from 15.10). it seems i can't find a perfect solution:
[05:22] <yao_ziyuan> (1) ubuntu 15.10 is vulnerable to that 0-day attack.
[05:22] <allen_> anybody using a Nividia Card with Steam? If so what card are you using?
[05:23] <yao_ziyuan> (2) ubuntu 16.04's wine (1.6, 1.9, or ubuntu-wine ppa's 1.8) can't run a program called Freegate. wine 1.8 CAN run Freegate in ubuntu 15.10 though.
[05:24] <yao_ziyuan> (3) ubuntu 16.10's wine (1.8.5) can run Freegate, but its Nautilus is premature (doesn't display external storage devices, removing a file from an external storage won't make it show up in Trash).
[05:25] <yao_ziyuan> probably i should go with ubuntu 16.10 with an alternative file manager (e.g. dolphin)?
[05:25] <ouyes> hey, guys is there any avalible command in ubuntu to print out the temperature of the nvidia card core?
[05:26] <yao_ziyuan> Freegate and Ultrasurf are what people use to cross the Great Firewall in China.
[05:26] <yao_ziyuan> i can run Ultrasurf in ubuntu 16.04 though.
[05:27] <ouyes> is it free yao_ziyuan
[05:28] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: Ultrasurf? yes
[05:28] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: so is Freegate
[05:28] <allen_> ouyes...good question...Hardinfo never shows the sensor temps
[05:29] <ouyes> allen_,  I want to write some code to record my card temp while running heavy general purpose computing on GPU.
[05:30] <allen_> I would like a program to even see the core temps
[05:30] <ouyes> yao_ziyuan, the funny thing is I can not even open the main page for ultrasurf
[05:32] <xangua> ouyes: tried lmsensors?
[05:33] <charlie2> Have a server I haven't touched for a long time showing me a 0 bytes available on hard drive.
[05:33] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: https://ultrasurf.us/
[05:33] <charlie2> Tried deleting some log files and nothing happened.
[05:33] <charlie2> Any good ideas?
[05:34] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: chinese official homepage: http://www.wujieliulan.com/
[05:34] <ouyes> yao_ziyuan, thank you dude.
[05:35] <NewYears> can someone help me with this? I get http://ix.io/1Opm when trying to run sudo apt-get install retroarch retroarch-* libretro-* 2>&1 | curl -sF 'f:1=<-' http://ix.io/
[05:35] <NewYears> sudo apt-get install retroarch retroarch-* libretro-* # sorry this is the command
[05:35] <charlie2> Here's my df - h command:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23692705/
[05:35] <yao_ziyuan> ouyes: you need to cross the Firewall too?
[05:36] <ouyes> yao_ziyuan, it is nice to access google.com
[05:40] <Peppernrino> alright/
[05:40] <Peppernrino> so i changed the sources to mirrors, and i get this: Err:5 mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt xenial Release
[05:40] <Peppernrino>   No mirror file '/var/lib/apt/mirrors/mirrors.ubuntu.com_mirrors.txt' found  [Mirror: ]
[05:40] <Peppernrino> so, it's not dns
[05:40] <allen_> psensor works great
[05:40] <xangua> Peppernrino: changed mirrors from what?
[05:41] <Peppernrino> changed to mirrors from other sources.
[05:41] <ouyes> allen_, psensor is good
[05:41] <Peppernrino> to test if it was dns
[05:41] <Peppernrino> it's pinging fine. i'm ssh in...
[05:41] <Peppernrino> just can't update it.
[05:41] <Peppernrino> :(
[05:41] <ouyes> allen_, but I can not see which temp is the temp for nvidia core
[05:43] <allen_> its the third one down from the top
[05:44] <Peppernrino> can't download anything with wget
[05:44] <ouyes> allen_, thank you
[05:44] <allen_> i need to buy a better video card
[05:44] <allen_> dont know which one to get yet
[05:44] <Peppernrino> 1070
[05:45] <allen_> yeah right
[05:45] <Peppernrino> 1050ti then
[05:45] <allen_> aint got that kind of money
[05:45] <Peppernrino> i have several for sale.
[05:45] <Peppernrino> how badass are we talking here?
[05:45] <allen_> not that badass
[05:46] <allen_> i was thinking 750 ti
[05:46] <Peppernrino> go for the 1050 then... save the extra$20
[05:46] <Peppernrino> trust me
[05:46] <Peppernrino> i have both
[05:46] <allen_> you do a lot of gaming in ubuntu?
[05:47] <Peppernrino> just scientific calcs
[05:47] <ouyes> I got a hd 7970 and a gtx 960.
[05:47] <allen_> you know i never had any luck with AMD in Linux
[05:47] <ouyes> allen_,  gtx 960 can manage a lot of games
[05:48] <allen_> well anything would be better than what I got
[05:50] <ouyes> allen_,  you can get a second hand card and improve its heat spreading. Save you money but good performance
[05:55] <zartarr> Hi guys I'm having issues with steam, I installed it from the website, but whenever i double click it - nothing opens up
[05:55] <zartarr> it just vanishes
[05:57] <ur0> zartarr: try opening it via terminal.
[05:57] <zartarr> so ctrl+alt+t
[05:57] <zartarr> then what?
[05:58] <ur0> zartarr: just steam<enter>
[05:59] <redmatria> How do I adjust the brightenss of my monitor using Ubuntu?
[05:59] <zartarr> libgl errors, failed to load drivers
[05:59] <zartarr> its a bunch of large commands
[05:59] <redmatria> "The solution (so they say) is to set the monitor brightness level to 100% thus preventing any possible screen flicker from the DC modulation and instead adjust the brightness and contrast levels in your GPU settings."
[06:00] <redmatria> How do I adjust my GPU using Ubuntu?
[06:00] <zartarr> how would i pastebin this?
[06:00] <allen_> zartarr sounds like your missing some drivers for your video card
[06:00] <kostkon> !paste
[06:00] <allen_> library for glide missing
[06:01] <zartarr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23692783/
[06:01] <zartarr> there you go
[06:02] <wafflejock> redmatria, what desktop environment? are you using the default Unity?
[06:02] <zartarr> I actually am using an old thinkpad x200, its got GMA integrated drivers, and when I go into settings on Ubuntu I don't see any option to install more/additional drivers
[06:02] <redmatria> wafflejock, No, MATE.
[06:02] <allen_> i965 integrated
[06:03] <wafflejock> redmatria, appears there's an extra package for it http://askubuntu.com/questions/537137/fn-keys-cant-adjust-brightness-mate-desktop
[06:03] <allen_> go to repositorys
[06:03] <Zombie> I need assistance packaging Spectrum 2 For Ubuntu.
[06:03] <wafflejock> redmatria, regarding the graphics card I believe if you have nvidia graphics and use the "additional drivers" application to install drivers you can run nvidia-settings to launch their GPU settings
[06:03] <zartarr> as in Ubuntu Software Centre?
[06:03] <Zombie> I am having an issue with the fact that it uses old MySQL and not Maria DB
[06:04] <allen_> yes
[06:04] <zartarr> alright sir, I am here
[06:04] <allen_> what ubuntu u using?
[06:04] <zartarr> Ubuntu 16.10
[06:04] <zartarr> Unity desktop, like your default thingy you download
[06:04] <redmatria> wafflejock, I have integrated Intel graphics.
[06:05] <allen_> at the top of the page you should see settings
[06:05] <allen_> click on that and come down to repositorys
[06:06] <allen_> you should see a tab that says additional drivers
[06:06] <allen_> ive got 16.
[06:06] <allen_> 16.04
[06:06] <allen_> but i would think it should be same
[06:06] <wafflejock> redmatria, ah intel does have some stuff on https://01.org/ but anything you download/install from outside the repos isn't supported here so it's use/install at your own risk if you get it from there, they may have some of the intel packages in the main repos too though not sure
[06:07] <zartarr> allen_: use processor microcode .... thats all there is there
[06:07] <zartarr> allen_: nothing to do with Intel Integrated Graphics
[06:07] <wafflejock> redmatria, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=intel&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all
[06:07] <allen_> uhhh hmmm that means no another driver to use
[06:07] <allen_> what driver you using?
[06:08] <zartarr> GMA 4500 I believe is my graphics card. It's an old Thinkpad X200 - I didn't install any drivers.
[06:08] <allen_> i bet its not a supported card with steam
[06:08] <allen_> but run hardinfo from terminal
[06:09] <weston> hi guys
[06:09] <weston> Anybody aware of the nbd-client 3.11 availability as a deb package?
[06:10] <weston> I just wanted to install it into my 14.04 machine
[06:10] <wafflejock> !info nbd-client trusty
[06:11] <wafflejock> weston, looks like 3.7? so I guess no?
[06:11] <wafflejock> !info nbd-client xenial
[06:12] <weston> wafflejock: bug in 3.7 which is causing download issues.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/1578185
[06:13] <wafflejock> weston, yeah figured you were asking cause of some issue in that version but if it's not in the repos not really supported here... you can look up the build flags for a given package though and can try rebuilding a newer version of the code yourself if you can't find a prepackaged one you can trust, PPAs and 3rd party stuff isn't supported here though since it can have side effects
[06:14] <wafflejock> weston, or you can bump up to xenial if that's an option then get 3.13 there
[06:15] <weston> wafflejock: thank you...but I dont understand the xenial stuf..any links?
[06:15] <wafflejock> weston, oh it's just version 16.04
[06:15] <redmatria> www.testufo.com/blurtrail#foreground=FFFFFF&background=000000&thickness=1&height=480&ppf=64&separation=1000
[06:16] <wafflejock> weston, it's the LTS release that came out in 2016 so if you upgrade from 14.04 you'd have new repositories that have the 3.13 version of nbd-client
[06:16] <weston> wafflejock: sorry, my OS has many dependencies with customer stuff
[06:16] <redmatria> Do you see multiple lines here?
[06:16] <weston> wafflejock: where I can get source of this 3.13 ?
[06:16] <weston> I will compile it
[06:17] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I upgraded ubuntu and now Steam will not start
[06:17] <cluelessperson> do you know how to restart the dependency installer?
[06:17] <zartarr> my steam won't start period
[06:19] <cluelessperson> I'm getting "libgl error"
[06:19] <cluelessperson> unable to load driver
[06:19] <cluelessperson> so stpuid
[06:19] <tenX> cluelessperson: what is stupid
[06:19] <wafflejock> weston, you can see the sources on the right side here http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/nbd-client http://askubuntu.com/questions/48499/where-can-i-find-the-configure-options-used-to-build-a-package << remember though YMMV and on your own supporting that then people here will yell at me for showing you where to go :)
[06:19] <zartarr> hey guys how do i navigate here: "~/.steam/steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/"
[06:20] <zartarr> according to a website I need to delete something there
[06:20] <cluelessperson> tenX, That steam ships dependencies seperated from the app
[06:20] <cluelessperson> tenX, So when ubuntu upgrades, it doesn't bother with those depencies, and steam no longer works
[06:21] <weston> wafflejock: thank you
[06:21] <allen_> you will have to log in as root...then start at root folder
[06:21] <most> is there a true random number generator for ubuntu?
[06:21] <most> i need a very high degree of randomness
[06:22] <allen_> and i dont think im supposed to reccomend that either
[06:22] <most> something better than atmospheric noise, if i exists
[06:22] <trololol> Hi everybody. I have already asked this here but i'm a little bit desperate. I keep getting internal error messages related to dbus, gnome and nautilus restart, freezes and sometimes it renders the os unusable :(
[06:23] <tenX> cluelessperson: ok i see that is annoying. but stupid..
[06:23] <zartarr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/771032/steam-not-opening-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[06:23] <zartarr> that seems to be a good solution to steam issue but looks like jibberish to me
[06:25] <Zombie> How do I file an actual official Packaging Requests?
[06:26] <allen_> good night all...thanks for the conversation
[06:26] <yao_ziyuan> i just installed dolphin on a fresh ubuntu 16.10, but it shows no icons. which package do i need for kde icons?
[06:26] <hateball> yao_ziyuan: depends on the theme you've set, probably breeze
[06:27] <hateball> !info breeze-icon-theme
[06:32] <yao_ziyuan> hateball: i just installed breeze and some other themes but still not ok. i think i should install the kde program that sets the current theme too. what's the package for that program?
[06:36] <hateball> yao_ziyuan: not sure, think that kcm is just part of the plasma-desktop
[06:36] <hateball> yao_ziyuan: I run Kubuntu so everything is already setup for me :p
[07:08] <graha> hallo
[07:09] <graha> man irssi
[07:09] <drjam> hi to you too
[07:16] <ducasse> good morning all
[07:19] <redmatria> I am also looking for a new monitor that is very easy on my eyes.
[07:19] <redmatria> My current one bugs my eyes. Apparently a low haze or glossy screen can reduce eye strain.
[07:20] <drjam> have you tried gunnar optics?
[07:22] <drjam> just found out they MAY be useful for people with lixdexia
[07:22] <drjam> so, double good reason to ahve them
[07:29] <zona-g4lau> hy
[07:35] <zona-g4lau> apa ada orang indonesia?
[07:36] <EriC^^> !indonesia | zona-g4lau
[07:37] <zona-g4lau> siap
[07:41] <redmatria> I'm looking for a GLOSSY monitor. Why are these so rare nowadays?
[07:41] <zartarr> guys im stuck on playing a game on dota "Failed to create an OpenGL context. Your graphics card must support at least OpenGL v3.1"
[07:42] <zartarr> I am on a GMA 4500HD integrated on laptop
[07:42] <LinuxNovice> hello...
[07:42] <weston> wafflejock: Thank you so much.. it is working...appreciated your timely support
[07:43] <wafflejock> weston, ah no problem glad you were able to get it working
[07:43] <weston> wafflejock: :)
[07:43] <LinuxNovice> what's the difference between Ubuntu and Lubuntu? Is it only the DE that is different or the packages selected also are significantly different?
[07:44] <xangua> LinuxNovice: Ubuntu is Ubuntu
[07:44] <hateball> LinuxNovice: It's only a matter of preinstalled packages
[07:44] <xangua> ! Flavors
[07:44] <LinuxNovice> I mean, the packages available in Lubunt software centre vis a vis Ubuntu software centre.
[07:44] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: they share repositories, so the same packages in each.
[07:45] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: that said, if you install a GTK program, it's going to pull in all the GTK dependencies, etc.  But everything is available.
[07:45] <Markos> window stick off
[07:45] <Markos> oops
[07:45] <Markos> ;>
[07:46] <LinuxNovice> what is GTK?
[07:46] <EriC^^> a tool kit for making gui stuff
[07:46] <LinuxNovice> I am a beginner in Linux.
[07:46] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[07:46] <wafflejock> LinuxNovice, gnome-toolkit it's a set of libraries for making graphical stuff namely for gnome
[07:47] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: The different desktops may use different libraries for making GUIs.  In order to run programs designed for those libraries, you need to have the libraries installed (obviously).
[07:48] <redmatria> I found this thread on glossy screens. https://hardforum.com/threads/the-new-glossy-ah-ips-dell-s2415h.1836144/
[07:48] <redmatria> I had a glossy NEC screen years back. It was beautiful.
[07:48] <LinuxNovice> is it pre installed in Lubuntu or Ubuntu or any of its flavours?
[07:48] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: If you go mixing programs from significantly different desktop environments, you may end up with many graphics libraries.  It's not the end of the world, but it uses more disk space (and other resources).
[07:49] <wafflejock> redmatria, personal opinion but think matte screens probably do better since so many laptops/portable devices and working with glossy in the sun is no fun (excuse the rhyme)
[07:49] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: Ignore what I was syaing about GTK, it was an example, and at your point, the specific details aren't important.
[07:49] <redmatria> wafflejock, For a desktop glossy really reduces eyestrain based on what I am reading.
[07:49] <LinuxNovice> Do I have to restrict myself to those packages available in Lubuntu Software Centre if I am using Lubuntu?
[07:49] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: No.
[07:50] <redmatria> wafflejock, HP now has a "low haze" option on some of its screens.
[07:50] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: You can mix and match all you'd like.  You can even install Lubuntu and then turn it into Ubuntu (or vice versa), or half and half, or whatever.  Because they're all the same package repositories.
[07:50] <LinuxNovice> ok. I can install Ubuntu Software Centre  and get the packages I want from there too, then.
[07:51] <xangua> I find synaptic better
[07:51] <Flannel> LinuxNovice: Lubuntu Software Center and Ubuntu Software Center have the same packages.
[07:51] <LinuxNovice> ok
[07:52] <LinuxNovice> ok. I'll try synaptic also.
[07:52] <root_> zona-galau
[07:52] <LinuxNovice> how can I make redshift work on Lubuntu?
[07:53] <LinuxNovice> I want it to transition the brightness according to the time of the day.
[07:53] <xangua> Sudo apt install redshift-gtk
[07:53] <zona-galau> bang kok gk ad orang ya di ubuntu-id
[07:53] <LinuxNovice> or can I use f.lux on Ubuntu or Lubuntu?
[07:54] <xangua> 1:53 AM <xangua> Sudo apt install redshift-gtk
[07:55] <LinuxNovice> does it have all the features of f.lux?
[07:55] <kiwi_> hi... on 12.04 i've been using a tiny script (https://paste.ubuntu.com/23693077/) to toggle SECONDS ON for the clock in the gnome classic desktop panel. the script doesnt work on 16.04. any ideas?
[07:56] <cfhowlett> kiwi_, because 16.04 uses unity not gnome on the desktop
[07:57] <redmatria> Which day will have the best electronics deals?
[07:57] <kiwi_> cfhowlett, i'm using gnome classic (flashback) on 16.04
[07:57] <xangua> LinuxNovice: I don't know what flux features are, but redshift it's already in the repositor
[07:57] <redmatria> Boxing day is when?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> redmatria, ask google - this is ubuntu support.
[07:58] <LinuxNovice> ok
[07:58] <LinuxNovice> in just installed redshift.
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !id | zona-galau
[08:00] <LinuxNovice> thanks guys, for your help.
[08:01] <redmatria> "My unit came with some major dithering, easily visible to the naked eye."
[08:01] <redmatria> What does this mean?
[08:01] <hateball> redmatria: you could ask in ##hardware
[08:04] <redmatria> I need to registered to talk in there and don't feel like registering right now.
[08:14] <ducasse> redmatria: then google it, in here we do ubuntu support
[08:16] <onboard> M96 ati driver who know ta
[08:24] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I've the same scanner problem with this, tried all suggested solutions but none of them allowed my user or even root to use the scanner http://superuser.com/questions/298298/scanning-only-works-under-sudo-ubuntu
[08:24] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> anyother suggestions?
[08:30] <egsome> After simple boot to my months ago installed Ubuntu, I found no mouse is there ! tried multiple solutions on the forums, one of them was installing gdm, once I did and rebooted, I'm always stuck at the Ubuntu logo while booting, with no more progress !
[08:31] <egsome> Booted into the resuce mode and dropped to root shell, but can't uninstall gdm, as apt always tell that it is in read only mode and can't get a lock or something like that.
[08:34] <xangua> egsome: is this a recertified HDD?
[08:35] <egsome> xangua, It is a Dell laptop, which -originially- had Ubuntu installed.
[08:36] <xangua> Is it a refurbished one?
[08:36] <egsome> xangua, No.
[08:37] <xangua> I installed back in February Ubuntu in a "new box", after turning it on recently started to show similar issues you described and found out not all its components were new (recertified HDD)
[08:37] <redmatrics> any benefit to using DP to HDMI instead of HDMI to HDMI?
[08:37] <redmatrics> DP from my computer to HDMI on my monitor.
[08:38] <egsome> xangua, Really ?!
[08:42] <redmatrics> Are you using the HDMI input? I had the same problems with the muted, washed out colors so I tried VGA and the difference was amazing. For some reason this monitor does not like HDMI. I'm using this monitor right now with VGA and everything is vibrant and bright, no flickering.
[08:42] <redmatrics> Any ideas why VGA would improve picture vs HDMI?
[08:46] <abijma> goodmorning, i have a question about php and openssl update to newer version on Ubuntu 12.04
[08:46] <abijma> i have 2 questions about ubuntu 12.04. i have apache 2.2.22 on ubuntu. i was using php 5.4.45 and now installed 5.6. Ubuntu console gives for command php -ver version 5.6 but phpinfo in webbrowser gives 5.4.45 so apache is still using the old version. how can i change that?
[08:46] <abijma> likely same problem i have with openssl. console gives that i'm using open ssl 1.0.2j but apache(curl) is still using 1.0.1
[08:47] <kubur4an> ad orang indonesia kh??
[08:48] <ikevin> abijma, do you have restarted apache after the php update?
[08:49] <abijma> yup i did
[08:50] <ikevin> abijma, what is the version of the package libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[08:52] <abijma> how do i check that?
[08:52] <ikevin> dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php5
[08:52] <kiwi_> hi... i just installed the mate desktop packages on ubuntu 16.04. But the display manager (login) shows no option for choosing a MATE seesion. any ideas?
[08:53] <xangua> kiwi_: how did you install mate?
[08:54] <abijma> i installed using: add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php
[08:54] <abijma> libapache2-mod 5.4.45-4+depre server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
[08:54] <xangua> abijma: don't know what that repository is for, but mate is already in Ubuntu repositories
[08:55] <xangua> Oh sorry, got confused
[08:56] <abijma> by the way how do i send a message in this chat prefixed by some username? so kind of @[username] ?!
[08:56] <kiwi_> xangua, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/xenial-mate (update, dist-upgrade) and then installed the mate-desktop 1.14 via synaptic
[09:03]  * INDONESIA 
[09:03] <kiwi_> using gnome flashback on 16.04, where is the setting SHOW_SECONDS for the panel clock stored? it used to be /apps/panel3-applets/   but that doesnt seem to be the case, anymore (?)
 libapache2-mod 5.4.45-4+depre server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag <== you need to upgrade this package too
[09:05] <Slown> Hello
[09:05] <Slown> I installed adminer on ubuntu 16.04
[09:05] <Slown> but I can't access the web page
[09:05] <Slown> what's the problem ?
 how can i do that?
[09:06] <ikevin> abijma, try: apt-get install --only-upgrade libapache2-mod-php5
[09:08] <efazati> Hi, I have server without internet... i want install vlan but this package need iproute2... iproute2 conflict with arpd ... how can fix this?
 i then get message most recent version already installed
[09:11] <Jeni870> "Are you using the HDMI input? I had the same problems with the muted, washed out colors so I tried VGA and the difference was amazing. For some reason this monitor does not like HDMI. I'm using this monitor right now with VGA and everything is vibrant and bright, no flickering."
[09:11] <Jeni870> anyone know why this might be?
[09:11] <ikevin> abijma, it look like your ppa does not provide the apache2 module
[09:12] <JP____> G'morning all
[09:12] <JP____> I wanna make ubuntu boot into a QT application
[09:12] <JP____> How?
[09:12] <JP____> Like, without seeing a bootloader etc
[09:12] <JP____> Or custom bootloader :drool:
[09:13] <egsome> Why would my Ubuntu boot in read-only filesystem mode, when I press Ctrl + Alt + F1 while booting and login ?
[09:13] <JP____> Why would you press Ctrl-Alt-F1?
 i used ppa ondrej/php to install new php version. should i change that again?
[09:14] <egsome> JP____, As I installed lightgdm, and it make my boot stuck at the Ubuntu logo. I'm trying to dpkg-reconfigure it.
[09:14] <JP____> egsome: do you have grub installed?
[09:14] <egsome> JP____, Sure.
[09:14] <JP____> Well there is an option in grub, advanced ubuntu options
[09:15] <JP____> I think there is a dpkg tool there
[09:15] <JP____> Have you ever seen the advanced options option?
[09:16] <egsome> Tried it, but it is just for fixing broken packages, and when drop to root shell through Grub, it is again read-only, as I remember.
[09:16] <ikevin> abijma, if you find a ppa that provide libapache-mod-php5 yes
[09:16] <JP____> And...... Gone
 but especially it should provide support for php5.6 right?
[09:17] <ikevin> abijma, it depend of the lib version
[09:17] <JP____> Where can i find super-ubuntu guru's?
 ok i understand, so there is not a difference in name of the file but i need to check the version
[09:22] <AdolfBieber> so I want my CPU to automatically decrease frequency when idle, but it doesn't, I have 1.6GHz Atom netbook and in idle it drops frequency automatically to 1.0GHz, but on PC with Core2Duo 1.8GHz its doesn't drops it its always 1.8GHz, what could be the reason, on both computers cpufreq-info shows: "available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace", so they have both "ondemand", any thoughts ? so it
[09:22] <AdolfBieber> has: "available frequency steps: 1.80 GHz, 1.20 GHz" but it doesn't drops to 1.2GHz, its always 1.8GHz
[09:23] <JP____> AdolfBieber: if you try to change the CPU frequency using cpufreq, does it work?
[09:23] <AdolfBieber> it works if I do it by hand
[09:23] <AdolfBieber> cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 1200000
[09:23] <JP____> Ah so the CPU does support variable frequency
[09:24] <JP____> And you can change governors?
[09:24] <AdolfBieber> yes I said it has: "available frequency steps: 1.80 GHz, 1.20 GHz"
[09:25] <JP____> My other laptop only supported certain governors
[09:31] <efazati> Hi, I have server without internet... i want install vlan but this package need iproute2... iproute2 conflict with arpd ... how can fix this?
[09:34] <bazhang> efazati, packages.ubuntu.com
[09:34] <efazati> @bazhang http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/vlan
[09:35] <bazhang> get a usb stick and then install efazati
[09:36] <efazati> @bazhang i did same... but when use dpkg -i vlan; dpkg said install iproute2 ... when use dpkg -i iproute2; dpkg said iproute2 has conflict with arpd ...
[09:37] <bazhang> efazati, the packages should list all the dependencies needed
[09:37] <bazhang> ie the website
[09:38] <zhang_> 什么
[09:38] <zhang_> 说汉语
[09:38] <efazati> @bazhang .... yes; i use those package. but i have conflict error. how fix that
[09:40] <bazhang> efazati, I would try to ask in #ubuntu-server , and be patient as this is holidays, and less active
[09:41] <bazhang> efazati, the more details, such as an error paste of the exact details on what the conflict is would help as well
[09:42] <zhang_> 有人在吗
[09:42] <bazhang> zhang_, here is english, chinese in #ubuntu-cn
[09:44] <Kartagis> what package to install for sharing under 16.04?
[09:44] <Kartagis> !cn | zhang_
 weird, i don't understand. i did something similar to what is described here: http://rodush.com/en/2016/01/solved-upgrading-from-php-5-5-to-php-5-6-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/ and it says that libapache2-mod-php5 should also be updated. i cannot remember if i got that message also.. but you could assume that that PPA does support the 5.6 version
[09:51] <abijma> of this package
 you agree with that assumption? any ideas if i can check some extra things?
[09:52] <bazhang> abijma, is that your question for the channel
[09:53] <youreacun>  
[09:53] <mmalakchi> Hi. I have tried to install i3WM for my linux Desktop. And probably during installation I switched to different repository.
[09:53] <ikevin> abijma, https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php <== there no libapache-mod-php package
[09:54] <mmalakchi> I have such line: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security InRelease
[09:54] <ikonia> mmalakchi: how did you switch to a different repo mid install
[09:54] <ikonia> mmalakchi: thats not really possible
[09:54] <mmalakchi> How switch back to default repository?
[09:54] <ikonia> mmalakchi: the repo data is held in cache, so you'd need to terminate the install and update the cache then restart the install
[09:54] <ikonia> mmalakchi: why do you think you are not using the default ubuntu repos
[09:55] <youreacun> Dont be a retard
[09:55] <mmalakchi> because I receive errors after apt update command
[09:55] <ikonia> mmalakchi: ok - pastebin the errors
[09:56] <mmalakchi> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/midori/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file.
[09:56] <mmalakchi> Err:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/midori/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release
[09:56] <mmalakchi>   404  Not Found
[09:56] <ikonia> mmalakchi: ok, so there are two things here a.) have you insalled anything from that repo
[09:56] <mmalakchi> yes
[09:56] <ikonia> mmalakchi: b.) do you need that repo for anything
[09:56] <ikonia> mmalakchi: what did you install ?
 mm ok i get confused this way... ;-) any idea where i could find a ppa with the new apache module?
[09:57] <ikevin> abijma, try: apt-cache search libapache2-mod-php5.6 if you have some results
[09:57] <ikonia> abijma: I stronlgy advise against using a PPA
 thing is i rather would not yet upgrade to new distribution and then PPA is only way isn't it?
[09:58] <stark_> hello is this ubuntu support channel?
[09:58] <quackgyver> Yes.
[09:58] <mmalakchi> ikonia: I think I don't need this repository anymore. I have installed i3WM for Linux Desktop. from site devpy.me
[09:58] <ikonia> mmalakchi: did you install anything from this repo
 apt-cache search libapache2-mod-php5.6
[09:59] <stark_> i was kicked out of linux mint help....i was banned...how can i rejoin it?
[09:59] <mmalakchi> ikonia: yes I did I told you
 libapache2-mod-php5.6 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2 module)
 <ikevin> thing is i rather would not yet upgrade to new distribution and then PPA is only way isn't it? <== you can compile php yourself
 php5.6-fpm - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (FPM-CGI binary)
[09:59] <ikonia> mmalakchi: what did you install
[09:59] <ikevin> abijma, ok, do: apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-php5 && apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5.6
[10:00] <stark_> i was kicked out of linux mint help....i was banned...how can i rejoin it?
[10:00] <stark_> please someone tell
[10:00] <ikonia> stark_: talk to their operators
 compile myself i never did before. this looked like easiest way....
[10:00] <mmalakchi> ikonia: I can paste command here if you want
[10:00] <ikonia> abijma: that is a terrible idea
[10:00] <ikonia> mmalakchi: just tell me what you installed
[10:00] <stark_> i am blocked .....how can i talk?
[10:00] <ikonia> mmalakchi: not looking for the command
[10:00] <ikevin> stark_, you need to wait to be unban
[10:00] <ikonia> stark_: pm the operators
[10:00] <ikonia> stark_: use spotchat help
[10:00] <stark_> ok
[10:00] <mmalakchi> ikonia: I have installed --> i3
[10:01] <stark_> but no need now..i switched to ubuntu
[10:01] <stark_> and ubuntu is better than linux mint
[10:01] <ikonia> mmalakchi: ok - so you need to be aware if you just remove this repo it may cause you problems
[10:01] <ikonia> mmalakchi: as you have software and dependencies that expect this repo to be there
[10:01] <ikonia> mmalakchi: I suggest you look at the ppa-purge command BEFORE you remove the repo
[10:01] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:02] <Gegsite> yo, in 16.04 there is a unity tweak tool, today I noticed that it wont make any animation (min,max) anymore, tho I checked in the tweak settings....
[10:02] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:02] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:03] <ikonia> you said that
[10:03] <stark_> someone...
 now i get error
[10:03] <ikevin> abijma, which error?
[10:04] <stark_> someone please answer my quesstion
[10:04] <ikonia> stark_: you've not asked a question
[10:04] <mmalakchi> ikonia: Thank You! Well i think I want to see how looks this i3. and after that I want switch back to default repository
libapache2-mod-php5.6 is not installable
[10:04] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:04] <stark_> when i log into ubuntu dialog box appears saying system program problem detected!
[10:04] <stark_> thats my question
 i need to translate it from dutch:)
[10:04] <ikonia> mmalakchi: ok - so you need to look at the ppa-purge command as I said
[10:04] <bazhang> no need to post so quickly stark_
[10:04] <ikonia> stark_: thats not a question
[10:05] <ikevin> abijma, can you pastbin the entire apt error?
[10:05] <stark_> ok...sorry...but what about that error?
[10:05] <Gegsite> How can I trace or find out why dont make unity animations anymore?
[10:05] <abijma> https://thepasteb.in/p/qjhLK4W83EwsB
[10:05] <ikonia> stark_: it is impossible to fix that error without more information
[10:05] <stark_> what information you need?
[10:06] <stark_> i am ready to give
[10:06] <Ben64> stark_: you havent pasted the error
[10:06] <stark_> how to paste?
[10:06] <Ben64> http://paste.ubuntu.com
 php is currently not working on my apache server
[10:06] <ikevin> abijma, apt-cache search apache2-api-20120211
[10:06] <ikevin> abijma, this is due to libapache2-mod-php5 uninstallation
[10:06] <stark_> what do i have to paste in this link?
[10:07] <ikevin> abijma, you need to remove the old version to install the new one
[10:07] <magicDave> what would be the uri for the stream? wiki seems to be down.
[10:07] <mmalakchi> ikonia: I'm not proffesional Linux user, but i will look into this command. Thank you!
 https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxMol2RPrCV
[10:08] <diskin> how to see currently loaded options for xorg? I found an advice to run "sudo X :2 -configure" to produce an xorg.conf.new file, but the file does not contain the options I know are in the config file...
[10:08] <ikonia> diskin: that creates a new blank file
[10:08] <ikonia> diskin: the running options are dynamic, you can see them loaded in the log
[10:09] <stark_> my answer to question please
[10:09] <stark_> what do i have to paste in this link?
 can you support me in how to remove old version(s)?
[10:09] <diskin> ikonia, I see, thanks.
[10:09] <ikevin> abijma, old version has been removed with "apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-php5"
[10:10] <ikevin> abijma, i see you maybe need to upgrade apache too
[10:10] <Ben64> stark_: the actual error, anything that would allow your problem to be solved
[10:11] <stark_> pk
[10:11] <stark_> *OK
[10:11] <ikevin> abijma, try adding this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/apache2
[10:11] <ikevin> abijma, and upgrade to apache2.4
[10:11] <stark_> also someone please tell me how to install wine(stable version) in ubuntu
[10:11] <ikevin> abijma, then, you will be able to install libapache2-mod-php5.6
 ok i will try.. indeed still using 2.2 i can imagine i need to upgrade to 2.4
[10:12] <Ben64> why ppa apache?
[10:13] <ikevin> abijma, yes, and probably adapt some apache settings
[10:13] <Ben64> sounds like a good way to mess stuff up
[10:13] <ikonia> Ben64: already told them this
[10:13] <ikonia> Ben64: it seems to be going down a mission to wreck the install, culminating in custom compiled
[10:14] <Ben64> oh well
[10:14] <stark_> also someone please tell me how to install wine(stable version) in ubuntu
[10:14] <stark_> also someone please tell me how to install wine(stable version) in ubuntu
[10:14] <Ben64> stark_: that's the perfect way to never get help
[10:15] <stark_> ohhh...please i am in need
[10:15] <stark_> help me
[10:15] <ikevin> apt-get install wine
[10:15] <stark_> iKevin:it did not work
[10:16] <cfhowlett> stark_, sudo apt  install wine
 may'be i missed something.. i added that ppa and did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
 restarted apache2 but stil apache2 -ver gives Apache/2.2.22
[10:22] <ikevin> abijma, try: apt-cache search apache2.4
[10:22] <budder> just installed ubuntu alongside windows 10 but i can't choose OS at boot... "press Enter to interrupt normal startup
[10:22] <budder> "
[10:22] <budder> doesn't work. just loads OS
 done, still same result
[10:23] <ikevin> abijma, does "apt-cache search apache2" show you a 2.4 version?
 https://thepasteb.in/p/WnhzRpkwrAXfV
[10:24] <ikevin> abijma, does "apt-cache search apache2" show you a 2.4 version?
[10:24] <zhang_> 什么啊
 no
[10:24] <bazhang> !cn | zhang_
[10:25] <zhang_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:25] <dikiaap> lol
[10:25] <zhang_> 什么
[10:25] <dikiaap> bazhang: are you from China too?
[10:26] <ikevin> abijma, can you pastbin the result of: apt-cache policy apache2
[10:26] <zhang_>  /join #ubuntu-tw
[10:26] <bazhang> zhang_, here is english
[10:26] <bazhang> zhang_, no space before the /
 https://thepasteb.in/p/nZhlAy5MkrOiY
[10:27] <ikevin> abijma, apt-get update && apt-get install --only-upgrade apache2
mm not yet..
 see here output in pastebin https://thepasteb.in/p/0ghJqE8o1APT5
[10:31] <ikevin> abijma, humm, you need to upgrade all apache package, you can try with apt-get dist-upgrade
 https://thepasteb.in/p/NxhVDnR27ZQsN
[10:35] <ikevin> abijma, can you pastbin all the upgrade texte?
 https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxMol7n20SV
[10:36] <Darkchaos> Short question: Doesn't Ubuntu have a bluescreen some sort of? Since I produced a nullpointer dereference in my driver but the system just froze (probably outputted the panic message and then got stuck). How can I see such messages in the future?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> Darkchaos, search your logs
[10:37] <ikevin> abijma, apt-get remove --purge apache2* && apt-get install apache2
[10:38] <bmy001> #join #ubuntu
 https://thepasteb.in/p/98hRLZ1W035sk
[10:41] <WeiJunLi> those segfaults are due that _libc_fork assertion? http://dpaste.com/04CVHQY
[10:42] <ikevin> abijma, this is the errors you have when doing apt-get remove --purge apache2* ?
[10:42] <pjm6> Good morning
[10:42] <abijma> yes
[10:42] <pjm6> I have a doubt, with Ubuntu 16.04 the iptables-persistent.service don't exist anymore?
[10:42] <abijma> including && apt-get install apache2
[10:42] <pjm6> IIRC the Ubuntu 14.04 had the service that allows to reload / stop iptables rules saved
[10:43] <ikevin> abijma, can you pastbin a result of dpkg -l | grep apache2
[10:43] <blackflow> pjm6: install the package, iptables-persistent
 https://thepasteb.in/p/O7h5zPGzzzMsq
[10:44] <pjm6> blackflow, I already installed
[10:44] <pjm6> but when I do
[10:44] <pjm6> systemctl restart iptables-persistent
[10:44] <pjm6> or service iptables-persistent restart
[10:44] <blackflow> pjm6: oh, it's a plugin to netfilter-persistent
[10:44] <blackflow> .service
[10:44] <pjm6> it doesn't exists
[10:44] <Niko2> hey guys! is there a way to install qtstalker in ubuntu 15.10? :)
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !15.10 | Nik05_
[10:44] <hateball> Niko2: 15.10 is EOL
[10:45] <ikevin> abijma, apt-get remove --purge apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin pache2.2-common
[10:45] <ikevin> apache2.2-common*
[10:45] <Niko2> hateball, EOL?
[10:45] <blackflow> pjm6: found it?
[10:45] <Niko2> sorry
[10:45] <Niko2> got it
[10:45] <cfhowlett> it's deak, niko2
[10:45] <cfhowlett> dead
[10:45] <pjm6> blackflow, i tried it, like systemctl stop netfilter-persistent
[10:45] <blackflow> it's dead, Jim.
[10:45] <pjm6> but the iptables rules are
[10:45] <Niko2> gotcha :) thanks all!
[10:46] <hateball> Niko2: end of life, upgrade to 16.04
[10:46] <blackflow> pjm6: first of all, please use single whole sentences, don't break into many smaller posts, there's enough traffic and noise here even without it :)
[10:47] <blackflow> pjm6: second, check the manpage of netfilter-persistent, then check the iptables plugin in /usr/share/netfilter-persistent/plugins.d  to see what it does when commanded by netfilter service, and check /etc/default/netfilter-persistent  for more config info.
 https://thepasteb.in/p/AnhrLmYA6E2Fv
 restart apache service gives "unrecognized service"
[10:48] <ikevin> abijma, ok, good, now: apt-get install apache2
 https://thepasteb.in/p/1jhn2jRGQvYHB
[10:50] <ikevin> abijma, apache2 -ver ?
[10:51] <pjm6> blackflow, i will be back, must reboot
[10:52] <abijma> Server version: Apache/2.4.25 (Ubuntu)
 looks good! Server version: Apache/2.4.25 (Ubuntu)
[10:52] <ikevin> abijma, good, now: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5.6
[10:54] <chx> I am trying to replace my ubuntu provided nginx with the nginx provided one , how could i do this with minimal / no downtime?
[10:55] <maret> hi everyone anyone having a problem with Printer X added notification popups in Ubuntu Gnome? It seems that in some random times I get notification about some(I guess network) printer being added over and over...
[10:55] <cfhowlett> chx, get the readme/instructions from nginx.  read and follow closely.
[10:55] <chx> Sigh. https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/tutorials/install/ this has nothing on this stiuation.
ok and next?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> chx, that page explicitly describes how to install on ubuntu.  what more do you need?
[10:57] <chx> I am trying to replace my ubuntu provided nginx with the nginx provided one , how could i do this with minimal / no downtime?
[10:57] <chx> that.
[10:57] <ikevin> abijma, now check if phpinfo show you the correct version
[10:57] <chx> apt-get install nginx errors out with  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/nginx/html/index.html', which is also in package nginx-common 1.10.0-0ubuntu0.16.04.3
[10:57] <chx> i am afraid that if i apt-get remove nginx-common nginx-core then it'll stop the nginx daemon.
[10:58] <chx> which is exactly what i'd like to avoid.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> chx, best you ask the nginx support channels for that level of support.
[10:58] <ikevin> chx, you can force the override of the file with dpkg
[11:01] <stark_> hi
[11:01] <stark_> is this official ubuntu support?
 hmm... obviously now apache config is stuck ;-) weird thing.. if i add php info to default www it doesn't  render the php code
 could it be that php is not yet activated under current apache2 install?
[11:01] <chx> ikevin: hrm, won't that override all configuration files including customized ones?
[11:02] <cfhowlett> stark_, now we know you're trolling.  you were here before so obviously you know exactly what this channel is for.  i'm beginning to understand why the mint channel kicked you.
[11:02] <ikevin> abijma, try a2enmod php5.6
[11:02] <ikevin> chx, if you've modified default package files, it maybe overrided too
 https://thepasteb.in/p/76hE4PqDB3ghV
[11:02] <stark_> dont get me wrong...it was my friend just trying on my Ubuntu
[11:03] <stark_> i have come here for the first time
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | Start[m]
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !guidelines > stark_,
[11:03] <chx> OK, done
[11:03] <stark_> thanks i will read them for sure
[11:04] <diskin> how can it be that there is no /var/log/Xorg.0.log file in a system running X?
[11:04] <stark_> can i reinstall ubuntu without getting my home folder formated?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> stark_, yes.
[11:05] <stark_> how?
[11:05] <stark_> please explian i am new to ubuntu
[11:05] <stark_> and i have messes it up
[11:05] <cfhowlett> stark_, you said you already installed ubuntu earlier.
[11:05] <stark_> but i had a clean install
[11:05] <stark_> erase disk and install ubuntu
[11:06] <cfhowlett> as in minutes ago.  so why exactly do you need to install again?
[11:06] <stark_> i want to reinstall it on my another Pc
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:06] <cfhowlett> stark_, so you are NOT installing it to the same PC ... and you already know how to do an installation.
[11:07] <stark_> no no no
[11:07] <pjm6> blackflow, thank you :) now its solved, in the /etc/default/netfilter-persistent i must choose FLUSH_ON_STOP=1
[11:07] <stark_> i want my home folder to be as it is
[11:07] <stark_> and reinstall ubuntu
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !install | stark_ instructions are here.
[11:08] <stark_> thanks man
[11:09] <ikevin> abijma, if you restart apache, php still not working?
[11:10] <abijma> nope(http://abijma.nl/info.php)
 nope(http://abijma.nl/info.php)
[11:12] <ikevin> abijma, look like a php error, check in /var/log/apache2/error.log
 client denied by server configuration so guess i need to check apache config?
[11:15] <ikonia> abijma: this sounds like you have made a terrible mess of your setup
[11:15] <ikevin> abijma, yes, apache2.4 have some new config
[11:15] <ikonia> abijma: would it not be simple to use a supported configuration rather than this mess
[11:16] <ikonia> the <directory> parameter is very different between 2.2 and 2.4 - again, would it not be simpler to use a supported configuration
[11:16] <ikonia> this looks like an unsupportable mess
[11:17] <ikevin> abijma, you maybe need to add "Require all granted" to the default directory
[11:17] <ikonia> it's not just the grant
[11:18] <ikevin> ikonia, some times it's just sufficient to have a basic vhost working
[11:18] <ikonia> ikevin: why are you pusing this approach
[11:18] <ikonia> it's a total mess ?
[11:19] <ikevin> when i upgrade my server from 2.2 to 2.4, i just need to set that to have all my vhost working
[11:20] <ikonia> I mean why are you pushing this over complex solution of php / apache when you could just use the supported packages
[11:20] <ikonia> these PPA's and conflicts are just going to end in a mess
 hmm ok..;-) but if i have first one vhost working then we now that it works and i can start going on to get other vhost working. that i can handle my self i hope...
[11:20] <ikonia> the fact that I've had time to get food, go to the shop and light a fire and PHP is still not working suggests the effort is just crazy for what is a simple situation
[11:20] <ikevin> ikonia, he don't want to upgrade ubuntu, so ppa or compilation is the only way to get php 5.6 on precise
[11:21] <ikonia> why doesn't he want to upgrade
[11:21] <ikonia> it's going to be an unsupported mess
[11:21] <blackflow> I agree with ikonia
[11:21] <ikonia> working outside the package limitations of the version your on is crazy
[11:21] <ikonia> it will end with more of a mess than it already is
[11:21] <blackflow> Don't deviate from defaults unless you really know what you're doing
[11:21] <ikevin> ikonia, i don't know why he don't want to upgrade, i just reply to his question
[11:22] <ikonia> maybe that should be the real question
[11:22] <ikonia> either that or why he needs a different PHP version on the "wrong" platform
 i tried several times to upgrade and that didn't work either..
[11:23] <abijma> but if that is the real hard advice to do may'be i should find that out.. i thought this would be easy todo also
[11:23] <ikonia> abijma: you won't be able to do a clean safe upgrade now
[11:23] <ikonia> abijma: you've put a load of PPA's in there that will cause conflicts
[11:24] <abijma> but do you say that you never ever should advice to make use of PPA's?
[11:24] <ikevin> iirc, ubuntu ask to disable ppa while upgrading
[11:24] <abijma> hmmm...
 did i understand clear that there is now not really a way back and i should do clean install? because then i have to set-up a new seperat VPS with apache/php
[11:32] <halpme> So, i got a new notebook. I turn it on and the only thing I see is "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot devide and press a key". I have tried with a live usb stick but still the same problem appears. My bet is my new notebook does not have a bios (I am not offered a list with a boot order)... your thoughts please
[11:33] <ikonia> halpme: have you tried to install ubuntu yet ?
[11:33] <ikonia> halpme: or is this fresh out of the box
[11:35] <egsome> Hi, Anyway to share USB connected device with wine running app ?
[11:35] <halpme> aaarg... I forgot the live cd at home
[11:35] <Scoop_> Hello so the scenario: had dual  win 10 and  ubuntu 16.04 LTS: i did "sudo mv /* ../"  My ubuntu partition is damaged and I m unable to boot it and my important files in home directory are encrypted( I don't have the long passphrase) I need those encrypted files in home directory.
[11:35] <halpme> i mean live usb
[11:35] <ikonia> egsome: not really
[11:35] <ikonia> Scoop_: they are gone
[11:36] <egsome> ikonia, Why so ? Can't simply do a symoblic link to somewhere in wine virtual directories ?
[11:36] <ikonia> Scoop_: unless you can manually find the key file and put it back in the right place
[11:36] <ikonia> egsome: try it
[11:36] <ikonia> egsome: it will fail
[11:36] <egsome> ikonia, I did, and it failed :), that's why I'm asking
[11:36] <ikonia> egsome: right, and I'm telling you it won't work
[11:36] <egsome> ikonia, No any alternative way ?
[11:36] <ikonia> egsome: not really
[11:36] <egsome> ikonia, Even not using wine ?
[11:37] <ikonia> egsome: especially not using wine
[11:37] <egsome> ikonia, I think PlayOnLinux and such programs are such based on wine, right ?
[11:37] <ikonia> egsome: playonlinux is a wrapper for wine
[11:37] <ikonia> egsome: a poitnless waste of time
[11:38] <stark_> black screen after booting in ubuntu!!!
[11:38] <stark_> and also it starts up very slowly
[11:38] <pendekar> hello everyone
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset  stark_
[11:38] <egsome> ikonia, Can I ask how did You try the linking thing ? Which path did You use ? Maybe I tried something wrong.
[11:38] <Scoop_> ikonia: Ok will try to manually get them back - one more question - did this command damaged win 10 or did I rushed too fast to recover to win8(wiping all the win10 partition) ?
[11:38] <halpme> ikonia: computer fresh out of the box , but the live usb is not available where I am atm
[11:38] <Ben64> egsome: what are you actually trying to do
[11:38] <stark_> what?? cfhowlett
[11:38] <ikonia> egsome: I didn't do a "linking" thing, as I know it won't work
[11:38] <ikonia> Scoop_: it won't have touched windows 10
[11:39] <cfhowlett> stark_, I sent you a link relevant to your situation.  read the link.
[11:39] <halpme> ikonia: i have however taken the hdd off the old notebook and inserted it into a case, so I can boot the whole OS from my old hdd through usb
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset  | stark_
[11:39] <ikonia> halpme: clearly not
[11:39] <egsome> Ben64, I have some simple flashing tool, which is a windows program, trying to get it working through Wine, It works perfectly, except it never detect the device.
[11:39] <ikonia> halpme: as it can't see the boot sector on the usb disk
[11:39] <egsome> ikonia, How are You that sure if You didn't try ?
[11:39] <Ben64> egsome: egsome what flashing tool, to flash what
[11:39] <ikonia> egsome: because I know how it works
[11:40] <halpme> egsome: what did I forget to try?
[11:40] <ikonia> egsome: this is getting tedious, you ask if you can do it, I explain "no" and you then then argue that I'm wrong
[11:40] <ikonia> what's the point of asing
[11:40] <ikonia> asking
[11:40] <egsome> Ben64, To flash a PoS device, Bitel IC5100
[11:40] <pendekar> How to get OpenShot to recognize Blender path ??
[11:40]  * cfhowlett reads "it works perfectly except ..." and stops reading.
[11:40] <Ben64> egsome: yep you can't do it
[11:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[11:40] <cfhowlett> pendekar, ask openshot.  it's been an unsolved issue for years.  problem is with OS not with ubuntu.
[11:41] <egsome> Ben64, Because of ?
[11:41] <Ben64> egsome: because of the way that it is
[11:42] <pendekar> i'm using backbox
[11:42] <Scoop_> ikonia: is it possible to fix my ubuntu partition manually (from usb try ubuntu or other way) and save me the headache of decrypting files? Because I believe i have moved back all the files that i have previously moved to one directory(but I still can't boot)?
[11:42] <ikonia> Scoop_: not really, your files will all be a mess, yes it's technically possible but really not worth it
[11:42] <cfhowlett> pendekar, backbox is not supported in the ubuntu channels.
[11:42] <ikonia> Scoop_: they will be all over the place,
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !backbox | pendekar
[11:42] <ikonia> Scoop_: you can try to reverse the command if you want
[11:42] <stark_> thnx
[11:43] <pendekar> i'm sorry, ok thanks
[11:43] <stark_> any download manager which can catch downloads from firefox just like IDM in windows
[11:43] <Scoop_> ikonia: reverse the command - how??
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> stark_  FF has its own download manager/icon
[11:44] <ikonia> Scoop_: look at what you've done, you've moved everytthing in / back one level
[11:44] <ikonia> Scoop_: it's really going to work though
[11:44] <gerry_dublin_dub> anyone have a rough time frame eta on 16.04.2 release?
[11:44] <ikonia> gerry_dublin_dub: what's "your" problem
[11:44] <ikonia> rather than what other people are seeing
[11:44] <stark_> @MonkeyDust but it can't resume the download if i pause or cancel it
[11:45] <blackflow> stark_: are you sure?
[11:45] <egsome> Ben64, Actually I tried making a symbolic link, and it now fire error of "Another program is using the telephony service"
[11:45] <blackflow> maybe the server just doesn't support ranges which are required for that functionality.
[11:46] <Ben64> egsome: it doesn't work
[11:46] <stark_> yes
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> stark_  yes you can, just tried with an ubuntu iso
[11:46] <ikonia> egsome: either accept it or stop asking
[11:46] <cfhowlett> gerry_dublin_dub, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:46] <blackflow> stark_: maybe the server just doesn't support ranges which are required for that functionality.
[11:46] <ikonia> egsome: you're asking "does it work" you're being tols "no" then you are trying to argue it, if you think it works, get on with making it work
[11:47] <stark_> hmm
[11:47] <stark_> i have downloaded uget
[11:47] <gerry_dublin_dub> thanks but that page doesn't show point release dates cfhowlett
[11:47] <egsome> ikonia, Is it wrong to keep trying and discussing results I get ?
[11:48] <ikonia> egsome: yes, when you are being told "it doesn't work"
[11:48] <cfhowlett> gerry_dublin_dub, every 6 months for LS releases.
[11:48] <ikonia> egsome: if you disagree, get on with making it work
[11:48] <gerry_dublin_dub> ah thank you kindly
[11:48] <egsome> ikonia, I'm not keeping asking ! I just said what different result I got, when it fired error, instead of simply not detecting the device.
[11:48] <ikonia> egsome: but you must see how pointless it is to ask "does it work" be told "no" then argue it, if you knew it worked you wouldn't be asking, if you won't accept "no" whats the point of asking
[11:48] <egsome> ikonia, I'm not asking ! I'm discussing !
[11:48] <ikonia> egsome: you're not
[11:49] <ikonia> egsome: you're trying to show it's working somehow
[11:49] <ikonia> when it's not
[11:49] <egsome> ikonia, I'm not trying to show it is working !! I really need to get it working, and that's why spending my time here to discuss whatever possible, not asking !
[11:49] <ikonia> egsome: "it won't work" use a supported OS to flash it
[11:49] <egsome> ikonia, And, You don't have to answer or reply to my messages if You don't like to !
[11:49] <ikonia> egsome: that is the answer
[11:50] <cfhowlett> egsome, please continue it #ubuntu-offtopic.  this discussion has fallen outside the boundaries of tech support.  thank you.
[11:50] <lloydng> hello
[11:50] <egsome> cfhowlett, Is the point I'm discussing not a tech one ? OK, Seems weird !
[11:51] <lloydng> is there anyone here who could help me fixed my problem with my scanner?
[11:51] <cfhowlett> egsome, it's now pretty much a technical debate and not "how do I make this work".  the OT channel would be better suited for such.
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !ask | lloydng
[11:52] <egsome> cfhowlett, Got it, thanks.
[11:52] <lloydng> ow sorry newbie here, and thanks btw
[11:53] <lloydng> help, problem with epson L210. My scanner wont work today, but it was working yesterday
[11:55] <cfhowlett> lloydng, upgraded since yesterday??
[11:56] <lloydng> last time i checked my system is up to date
[11:57] <cfhowlett> I mean did you perform any recent updates as, on occasion, that can cause issues.
[11:59] <lloydng> cfhowlett, no none. just scanning some photos. no recent updates activity
[12:00] <cfhowlett> lloydng, OK, let's research this.  dpkg -l | grep linux-headers* | pastebinit        will list your kernels.
[12:00] <lloydng> this happened before, but i just rebooted my system and my scanner works again. but now, i can't make it anymore
[12:03] <Backwards> lloydng How much RAM are you using? Also are you using a 64 bit scanner on a 32 bit machine? Think in those terms.
[12:03] <lloydng> cfhowlett, done.. thank you some much! appreciated
[12:04] <cfhowlett>  lloydng please paste the url that command gave you here
[12:04] <lloydng> Backwards, may PC 64bit with 4GB RAM, i dont know with my scanner, its epson L210
[12:04] <lloydng> cfhowlett, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/23693963/
[12:05] <cfhowlett> lloydng, uname -r       should state that you are using 4.4.0-57                 please confirm
[12:05] <Backwards> lloydng In short most things should work OK when installed correctly. However, many people install 32 bit stuff on a 64 bit machine and if the OS or kernel doesn't see it correctly, then problems exists.
[12:07] <lloydng> Backwards, ok so i should google my scanner then i dont have its spec at hand
[12:08] <Backwards> The problem that I see every day is that when installing a UNIX installation, the installation always asks for what "Hardware" is being supported?
[12:08] <Scoop_> if i would do a reinstall of 16.04 (selecting to keep my personal  files...) this would erase my encrypted files in home directory??
[12:08] <Backwards> Scoop save your files and then reinstall.
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Scoop_  i don't know, but i do advise you to backupup first
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[12:10] <Backwards> It is much easier to re-install the kernel rather than trying to get tech support.
[12:11] <Backwards> Create an ISO backup disk and before you install anything, make sure you can re-create an Image of the Disk.
[12:13] <lloydng> Backwards & cfhowlett. Thanks! Try to boot, and see if it works, just like with Windows
[12:14] <cfhowlett> best of luck
[12:16] <blackflow> Backwards: what is "ISO backup disk" and how do you create one?
[12:16] <ikonia> I'd love to know
[12:17] <Backwards> lloydng With Windows you need to know that you should set a: Control Pannel with a backup mount point in which with Windows is <Restore Point>
 i had a lunch, back now. Regarding your and <Ikonia> 's last mentions..is there any possibility to go back now with current installation? or is the only option to reinstall Ubuntu? any simpler solution??
[12:18] <Backwards> Creating an ISO you can do it with a DVD drive with software.
[12:18] <ikonia> Backwards: are you talking about a bootable ISO
[12:18] <blackflow> Backwards: please tell me how, I'd like to learn your $300/hr method.
[12:18] <ikonia> or just a backup of some files onto a cd
[12:18] <Backwards> Sure.
[12:18] <Backwards> You can do many things.
[12:19] <blackflow> I know I can, but I'd like to know how to make "ISO backup disk" that you're recommending to people.
[12:19] <Backwards> First of all, it all depends upon what OS or kernel you are referring to.
[12:19] <ikonia> kernel ?
[12:19] <ikonia> errr no
[12:19] <blackflow> Ubuntu, this is #ubuntu.
[12:19] <ikonia> an ISO image is nothing to do with a kernal
[12:19] <ikonia> kernel
[12:19] <stark_> is there any free vpn for ubuntu?
[12:20] <ikonia> stark_: many
[12:20] <stark_> tell me the best
[12:20] <ikonia> stark_: vpn clients are widely available and also built into network manager
[12:20] <Backwards> Ok, you can use a Windows copy disk and burn an ISO with Ubuntu. I have done it.
[12:20] <ikonia> stark_: you need to know what clients your vpn encpoint support
 <ikevin> i had a lunch, back now. Regarding your and <Ikonia> 's last mentions..is there any possibility to go back now with current installation? or is the only option to reinstall Ubuntu? any simpler solution?? <== if you want a clean system and uptodate, you need a fresh install
[12:20] <ikonia> Backwards: you're just talking nonsense now
[12:20] <blackflow> Backwards: no, forget Windows. Please tell me how to make the "ISO backup disk" on Ubuntu, using Ubuntu tools, this has nothing to do with WIndows.
[12:20] <stark_> i need a vpn to have access to a website
[12:20] <Backwards> You need to <Slave> the hard drive first.
[12:21] <blackflow> Backwards: okay, good. How?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !vpn | stark_
[12:21] <Backwards> Again, if you have the right software tools, you can put it in your DVD drive but you need another slaved drive or DVD burner in which I do.
[12:22] <ikonia> Backwards: what ubuntu software does this ?
[12:22] <ikonia> Backwards: and how do you "slave" a hard disk
[12:22] <blackflow> Backwards: fine, but please tell me how. You've been giving this advice to people and I want to learn HOW.
[12:22] <halpme> i cannot create a live usb stick where I am, I need admin privileges. What bugs me is this: the HDD worked in the old notebook (directly connected with sata). I inserted this hdd with sata in the sata port of my new notebook and I still get the "reboot and select proper boot device..." what am I missing?
[12:22] <stark_> !ubuntu | ikonia
[12:22] <ikonia> stark_: ?
[12:22] <stark_> i wanted to just try the command
[12:23] <blackflow> Backwards: I have a Ubuntu machine, no Windows in sight, main SSD in it, and a backup USB HDD. Please tell me how to back up my Ubuntu installation.
[12:23] <stark_> !FreeBSD | stark
[12:23] <ikonia> stark_: please stop messing with the bot
[12:24] <stark_> what??? ubottu is a bot??
[12:24] <ikonia> stark_: it is, yes
[12:24] <blackflow> o'rly :)
[12:24] <stark_> ok sorry Mr.bot
[12:24] <Backwards> Ikonia, it remains to see that you need to Google a suitable bootable ISO and burn it to disk and then you can boot from the disk and use either a Hard drive or USB drive to copy the data. Just copying the data is good in the first place.
[12:24] <ikonia> Backwards: please tell me how to do with with ubuntu
[12:24] <blackflow> Backwards: you have NO idea what you're talking about, do you?
[12:24] <ikonia> Backwards: you're telling people to create these ISO's please tell me how to create one
[12:24] <tenX> blackflow: rsync, duplicity?
[12:25] <ikonia> Backwards: you're coming up with nosense statements like 'it depends on the kernel" and "32bit scanners"
[12:25] <blackflow> tenX: beside the point, I kow how to, but he's recommending people to make "ISO backup disk" and I'm dying to learn how to do that on Ubuntu :)
[12:25] <blackflow> this is precisely why ikonia recommended AGAINST going private for support, no way for others to screen bullshit advice from real advice.
[12:26] <ikonia> Backwards: language please....;)
[12:26] <blackflow> apologies.
[12:26] <ikonia> Backwards: zero issue
[12:26] <ikonia> oops
[12:26] <ikonia> blackflow: zero issue
[12:27] <Backwards> Quite frankly, the 32 bit and 64 bit has everything to do with copying a drive and burning an ISO file with a DVD drive. I have been doing this for a long time.
[12:27] <ikonia> Backwards: no it doesn't
[12:27] <tenX> blackflow: iso backup disk? ha
[12:27] <blackflow> yah :)
[12:27] <EriC^^> he means he wants to dd it to an .img file
[12:27] <tenX> blackflow: os2iso
[12:28] <EriC^^> Backwards: how's 32bit vs 64bit come into play?
[12:28] <stark_> is there any ubuntu chat channel also?
[12:28] <EriC^^> stark_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <stark_> ok
[12:29] <Backwards> There are times when the OS doesn't like being told what to do when being in use. So errors happen because while the OS is in use you cannot replicate the ISO or kernel on a disk while in use.
[12:29] <stark_> i cant join this channel
[12:29] <ikonia> Backwards: this is nothing to do with the kernel
[12:29] <EriC^^> Backwards: yeah but that's not 32bit vs 64bit related
[12:29] <ikonia> Backwards: or "depends what kernel"
[12:29] <stark_> i cant join this channel
[12:30] <ikonia> Backwards: honestly, this is the only warning you'll getnow
[12:30] <cfhowlett> stark_, you are already IN this channel
[12:30] <EriC^^> stark_: maybe you need to register
[12:30] <ikonia> Backwards: help with things you actually understand and can back up with fact, or be quiet
[12:30] <stark_> how to register?
[12:30] <ikonia> !register | stark_
[12:30] <EriC^^> /nickserv register <pass> <email>
 first i would like to get an up and running apache/php installation again. so is there an option to get it running again with the current situation?
[12:31] <stark_> !register | stark
[12:31] <blackflow> Ubuntu has a built-in backup tool, I think using deja-dup. Just type "backup" in dash, and there you go. There's also plenty of native ways, like simple copy, rsync, tarballing, LVM/btrfs/ZFS snapshots, etc... making an "ISO" disk, even if possible, is least of the recommended ways. An "ISO backup disk" not only doesn't make sense, but even if one did make an iso image... what for? it's not native, you
 because now i have nothing....
[12:31] <blackflow> need external tools.
[12:31] <stark_> how to register?
[12:31] <ikevin> abijma, yes, you just need to add some new settings to apache
[12:31] <stark_> command did not work
[12:31] <EriC^^> stark_: what'd it say?
[12:31] <EriC^^> join #freenode and ask there
[12:31] <oles> hi
[12:32] <cece> hi
 ok, please can you help me with that?
[12:32] <stark_> what is freenode?
[12:32] <stark_> what is #freenode?
[12:32] <ikonia> abijma: I would strongly advise you to backup your websites and install the best version of ubuntu, then restore your websites,
[12:32] <ikevin> abijma, yes, so, can you do a zip of your /etc/apache2 and share it?
[12:32] <ikonia> abijma: you're current install is a mess and is going to cause you problems down the line
[12:32] <oles> is there any simple exampleof how to build qemu for arm host on ubuntu without manually resolving its sourecode dependencies?
[12:32] <tenX> blackflow: what is that backup utility like? feature wise? have you tried it?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> oles  better ask in #ubuntu-arm
[12:33] <Backwards> Backflow, a bit of advice may go a long way here and for anyone else: There is a boot disk called: "Ultimate Boot Disk" also there is:  "Bart's Boot Disks" in which you can find on Google and that is the end of this discussion. Do your homework.
[12:33] <oles> MonkeyDust, thx
[12:33] <blackflow> abijma: plus, Precise is going out of support soon, so it's good time to start testing your ecosystem on newer Ubuntu.
 i understand... but if i can get it running now then it gives me some time to do a fresh installation
[12:33] <blackflow> tenX: I haven't, I use ZFS and I do zfs send|recv with snapshots for backups.
[12:34] <blackflow> IMHO really the best way to manage your data. btrfs can do it too, if zfs is not wanted.
[12:34] <stark_> !kill | me
[12:35] <rizonz> which package contains rrdtool ?
[12:35] <EriC^^> !find rrdtool
[12:35] <tenX> blackflow: i c but what about backing up to remote hosts or removable devices
[12:35] <ikevin> rizonz, rrdtool :)
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> !find rrdtool
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  was faster
[12:35] <tenX> blackflow: this is just for interest
[12:35] <blackflow> tenX: zfs send|recv :)
[12:35] <rizonz> ikevin: mhh but 16.04 can't find it ?
[12:36] <blackflow> tenX: "zfs send mypool@snapshot | ssh remote@server 'zfs recv -eu backupoool'"
[12:36] <ikevin> rizonz, hu? i'm abble to find it on 16.04
[12:36] <rizonz> ikevin: mhh not as packagename
[12:36] <ikevin> apt policy show me it's on main repo
[12:37] <rizonz> ikevin: oh sorry my mistake :)
[12:37] <rizonz> if rrdtool update /graph.rdd says too less aguments, what is srong ?
 i can send you that zip, but not all sites have to work.. are you gonna make also changes in sites-enabled or sites-available?
[12:38] <ikevin> sites-enabled is sufficient
[12:39] <blackflow> ikevin: sites-enabled are symlinks to sites-available, so it'd be best to back up BOTH and retain symlinks.
 yes indeed i guess you mean sites-available?
[12:41] <blackflow> abijma: sites-enabled are symlinks to sites-available, so it'd be best to back up BOTH and retain symlinks.
[12:42] <ikevin> abijma, better is the entire /etc/apache2 directory
[12:45] <realjmin> .
[12:55] <halpme> i need to create a live usb stick with xubuntu in it and all I have is a windows computer, with no admin privileges: I cannot install things like unetbooting or rufus, so im looking for something that does not need to be installed... help appreciated
[12:56] <JP____> Hello mina-san
[12:56] <JP____> Who is ready to paaaaarty :P
[12:57] <JP____> * insert question mark somewhere in previous sentence *
[12:57] <ikevin> halpme, see http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/unetbootin-portable
[13:02] <ubuntu417> hi
[13:03] <ubuntu417> Who knows how to format an ubuntu 13.10
[13:03] <cfhowlett> ubuntu417, 13.10 is old, dead and unsupported.  do not use it.
[13:03] <ubuntu417> okay
[13:04] <JP____> lol
[13:04] <JP____> Nice welcome
[13:05] <cfhowlett> JP____, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic or find a different channel to play in.  thank you.
[13:05] <JP____> :p
[13:05] <JP____> I'm looking to build a qt boot image
[13:05] <JP____> for x86
[13:05] <JP____> Kiosk type
[13:05] <JP____> With custom bootloader
[13:06] <JP____> Care to help?
[13:07] <JP____> cfhowlett: ?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> JP____, outside my area.
[13:07] <JP____> Is there a better room where i can ask this?
[13:07] <JP____> Been waiting for a while on a awnser now
[13:07] <JP____> anwser*
[13:09] <drjam> kiosk with old linux?
[13:09] <drjam> isnt there like, more current linux kiosk stuff around?
[13:10] <halpme> ikevin: aaaaargh... I tried portable apps, installed unetbooting in my usb stick but Im still asked for admin privileges to run unetbooting....
[13:20] <Scoop_> when you loose your OS and all of the important files with it - it looks like your life is over...
[13:21] <halpme> did you backup?
[13:22] <ikevin> Scoop_, testdisk can be your friend :)
[13:22] <Scoop_> no... In the future will set up scheduled cloud backups. Currently trying to recover some data, but it's a longshot
[13:22] <EriC^^> Scoop_: how did you lose them?
[13:27] <Scoop_> "sudo mv /* ../ " I also panic rushed to recover my dual boot win10 to win8 , haven't tried to change first boot option to win10... So currently using recura to restore win 10 files, and after that will try to fix ubuntu boot with grub fsck dev/sda9. The files that i need from ubuntu is in home dir(encrypted)
[13:28] <Scoop_> Also moved the folders back to root from the one they appeared to, but didn't helped a lot
[13:37] <wam> Hi, rm sucks when you have a lot of files. What are you using? rsync --delete?
[13:37] <EriC^^> that's pretty interesting
[13:38] <EriC^^> what's it actually move it to when you say mv something ../
[13:39] <EriC^^> they just disappeared here
[13:41] <EriC^^> Scoop_: they actually moved to the dir i was in behind it
[13:41] <EriC^^> i was in "/home/user" when i ran the command and they got moved to /home/
[13:41] <EriC^^> Scoop_: which dir were you in when you ran the move command? try "grep mv /var/log/auth.log" if you used sudo
[13:42] <tenX> EriC^^: well .. is the upper dir?
[13:42] <JP____> Is it normal for an ubuntu persistent live usb to be very slow?
[13:42] <EriC^^> tenX: well yeah, i guess
[13:43] <JP____> 16.04 LTS
[13:43] <ikevin> wam, rsync maybe will more slow than rm
[13:43] <JP____> PC specs: I7 (newer generation), 16GB ram, Some videocard @ 2gb
[13:43] <tenX> EriC^^: and . the current
[13:44] <tenX> EriC^^: you can combine ../.. moving up one more level
[13:44] <tenX> EriC^^: just in case u didnt know
[13:45] <metaresolve> question: I am very ignorant when it comes to CLI. Is there someone who can /msg me and help me walk through something?
[13:45] <metaresolve> I have a vps with ubuntu something on it
[13:45] <EriC^^> metaresolve: ask here
[13:45] <metaresolve> k
[13:45] <Scoop_> Eric^^ when i did the command i was in var/www/html/website/project and everything appeared in var/www/html/website folder
[13:45] <JP____> Is it normal for an ubuntu persistent live usb to be very slow? version 16.04 LTS, PC specs: I7 (newer generation), 16GB ram, Some videocard @ 2gb
[13:46] <metaresolve> I'm using putty. When I don't know a password for a user, I'm on the Access denied and the prompt for that user again
[13:46] <EriC^^> Scoop_: aha, move them back using a live usb
[13:46] <metaresolve> how do I get out of that "what's your password" if I don't know it?
[13:46] <EriC^^> metaresolve: ctrl+d maybe
[13:46] <ronnie> i have installed ncpa-2.0.0.amd64.deb on my Ubuntu 14.04 machine. the ncpa_listener and i can wget on LOCALHOST to https://192.168.50.10:6593/ so thats working. But when i do this from another machine it timeouts. Also nmap doesn't show 6593 as an open port. But there is no firewall (ufw disabled, iptables policy ACCEPT). How can i connect to the ncpa listener?
[13:46] <Scoop_> After that everyting stoped to work... But i recovered win8 then i manually moved ubuntu partition files from var/ww/html/website to root, but that didn't helped a lot. Currently ubuntu is not bootable.
[13:47] <EriC^^> Scoop_: what happens when you try to boot?
[13:47] <metaresolve> eric: that just shuts down the window. I want to keep the putty window open and just have it go up from "postgres@107.191.103.176's password:"
[13:48] <EriC^^> metaresolve: ctrl+c ?
[13:48] <Scoop_> i get chipset unrecognized and get to use a terminal... If i use grub recovery then it interrupts and ask me to do a manual fsck because of dev/sd9 failure
[13:48] <metaresolve> eric: same thing. and i can't think of a vocabulary to use to google it
[13:49] <bytefire> hi, i've created a simple test script which i want to run as a daemon and systemd service file. that works fine when i explicitly start it using systemctl start... but it doesn't start automatically on boot
[13:49] <bytefire> here's the service file: http://pastebin.com/Me2ND0kk
[13:50] <EriC^^> bytefire: did you do systemctl enable service?
[13:50] <metaresolve> i'm googling a bit more on something else, don't worry about that question for now.
[13:52] <metaresolve> I'm seeing this prompt: postgres@server:/root$
[13:52] <metaresolve> what does that mean? I was trying to su postgres from root
[13:52] <metaresolve> sorry i'm so ignorant
[13:52] <bytefire> EriC^^: ah, no :)
[13:52]  * metaresolve hangs head
[13:57] <Scoop_> Eric^^ i know I don't make a lot of sense but do you think  I will manage to recover my ubuntu install or atleast my home directory(encrypted files) ?
[13:58] <Scoop_> when trying to grub recovery i get almost exact to this: fsck from util-linux 2.26.2 /dev/sda6 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/sda6: Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.  /dev/sda6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.         (i.e., without -a or -p options) fsck exited with status code 4 The root filesystem on /dev/sda6 requires a manual fsck  Busybox v1.22.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.22.0
[13:58] <EriC^^> Scoop_: yeah i think you should be able to
[13:58] <EriC^^> Scoop_: try running fsck manually
[13:59] <EriC^^> Scoop_: are the encrypted files still in /home/user ?
[13:59] <metaresolve> eric: you're right, the ctrl-d did let me go back up from the login to root. thanks.
[13:59] <EriC^^> try du -sh /home to see the size
[13:59] <EriC^^> metaresolve: cool, no problem
[14:00] <Scoop_> Yeah will try to do this as soon as my win8 recura program is finished recovering files.. It says it need 30 more minutes. It was scanning/recovering from night time.
[14:00] <Scoop_> Eric^^ yes
[14:00] <metaresolve> eric: do you have a recommendation for learning ubuntu/command line? I don't know how to use it at all. I'm used to GUI. I've tried doing the Learn CLI the hardway like 3 times but it never sticks.
[14:00] <EriC^^> Scoop_: try to manually decrypt it with sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[14:01] <EriC^^> !tldp | metaresolve
[14:01] <metaresolve> and reading the manual doesn't help, i'm even more ignorant than a manual can help me with
[14:01] <Scoop_> bet they are only 1 kb in size and only links to usr/share/encrypt-utils/.. ~something to other 1kb txt files
[14:01] <metaresolve> ok ty, i'll look through those
[14:01] <Scoop_> Eric atm I am running win8 so don't have sudo commands at my disposal :)
[14:02] <EriC^^> metaresolve: i'd recommend the linux admin guide and system admin guide (pretty similar) and the gnu command line utils (that'll give you a lot of utils to use and stuff that are handy)
[14:02] <EriC^^> they're not that big too and i found them pretty helpful
[14:02] <EriC^^> (Y)
[14:03] <EriC^^> Scoop_: oh ok :)
[14:05] <Scoop_> Eric^^ is it possible to contact you later on besides this channel through e-mail for e.g. ?
[14:06] <EriC^^> Scoop_: ok, i'll pm you the address
[14:11] <Tinmann> "Are you using the HDMI input? I had the same problems with the muted, washed out colors so I tried VGA and the difference was amazing. For some reason this monitor does not like HDMI. I'm using this monitor right now with VGA and everything is vibrant and bright, no flickering."
[14:11] <Tinmann> Any ideas why the VGA would be better than the HDMI?
[14:12] <star314> I'm trying to get the system beep on my server working. pcspkr is loaded, alsamixer is checked, but still no noise from beep. It seems that there is something wrong in 16.04 with the speaker implementation https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1599599
[14:12] <jirido> Is there someone here that know a comand to manualy light up the display when it is to sleepy after a suspend?
[14:12] <star314> any suggestions?
[14:12] <tomreyn> Tinmann: bad hardware? you could discuss this in ##hardware
[14:14] <Tinmann> tomreyn, Bad is really vague.
[14:14] <tomreyn> Tinmann: and hardware is really off-topic here
[14:16] <FinalX> I'm messing around with Windows 10's "Bash on Windows", which is pretending to be an Ubuntu 14.04 install. Anyone been playing with it as well, and any idea if you can upgrade that to xenial?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> FinalX, I would think sudo apt do-release-upgrade would do it.
[14:18] <FinalX> I wonder, it misses a lot of regular crap :)
[14:19] <ikonia> FinalX: it's not pretending to be an ubuntu install
[14:19] <ikonia> FinalX: it's just offering binary compatibility with elf
[14:19] <tenX> FinalX: ssh/sshd?
[14:20] <FinalX> ok, fine, it's a working bootstrap that misses a lot of things that any other regular Ubuntu install has. no init systems, for one, etc.
[14:20] <ikonia> it's not an ubuntu install thats why
[14:20] <ikonia> as I've just said
[14:20] <ikonia> it's a windows platform with elf binary compatibility
[14:20] <ikonia> so it's not going to have things like init as it's not booting a system
[14:21] <FinalX> yeah, I'm aware, hence me saying it's pretending to be. "lsb_release -a" just shows that it's 14.04, /etc/apt/sources.list is configured etc.
[14:21] <ikonia> but it's not pretending to be anything
[14:21] <ikonia> and of course sources.list is configured, how else are you expected to install things
[14:21] <FinalX> it also sees xenial with do-release-upgrade, but it terminates the screen leaving nothing to see as to why.. so doesn't work :)
[14:21] <halpme> if I plug in a live usb stick onto a notebook with no ssd or hdd in it, I still can boot the libe stick from the notebook, right?
[14:21] <halpme> live*
[14:21] <cfhowlett> halpme, yep
[14:22] <halpme> good, then im missing something: a tails live cd does not boot...
[14:22] <ikonia> tails ?
[14:22] <halpme> yes, tails
[14:22] <ikonia> halpme: what is tails
[14:23] <tomreyn> star314: sudo rmmod -v snd-pcsp; sudo modprobe -v pcspkr; echo -en "\a" > /dev/tty5
[14:23] <tomreyn> star314: does it beep?
[14:23] <jirido> Is there someone here that know a comand to manualy light up the display when it is a little to sleepy after a suspend?
[14:23] <star314> tomreyn: let my try
[14:23] <halpme> https://tails.boum.org/ ikonia
[14:23] <ikonia> halpme: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[14:23] <tomreyn> star314: if not, do you have a speaker attached to the motherboard at all? i think modern computers usually don't
[14:24] <johnnywalker> Hello, I receive the error 'grub-install /dev/sda failed'
[14:24] <star314> tomreyn: I attached one myself. The bios beep when power on the computer works well.
[14:24] <halpme> that was me loud thinking that I have to look for a reason and has nothing to do with unbuntu ikonia
[14:25] <johnnywalker> I tried to install it on sdb
[14:25] <ikonia> halpme: this isn't the right channel for that, only deal with ubuntu here.
[14:25] <star314> tomreyn: snd-pcsp is not loaded
[14:25] <halpme> will do
[14:25] <yao_ziyuan> public service announcement: if you're using ubuntu 16.10 you probably have seen that removing a file from a removable disk won't make it show up in Trash. here is how to fix it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/836665/ubuntu-16-10-deleted-files-dont-go-to-trash-and-keep-taking-space
[14:26] <johnnywalker> Can grub be installed on sdb?
[14:26] <tomreyn> star314: okay so the bios beep goes through that speaker directly attached to the mainboard, not through the sound card, right
[14:27] <tomreyn> johnnywalker: sure, but will it boot then, that's a different question. you want grub to be installed on the first disk drive the bios tries to boot from.
[14:27] <star314> tomreyn: yes it must be because there is no external loudspeaker connected to the sound card. It is a standalone server.
[14:28] <star314> tomreyn: http://pastebin.com/r71EL71t ... pcspkr is loaded
[14:28] <tomreyn> star314: i see. did the commands i provided not result in a beep then? since you didn't state that, yet.
[14:28] <star314> tomreyn: alsamixer shows a "speaker" option which is also enabled
[14:29] <tomreyn> alsamixer is for sound card processing, you don't want this.
[14:29] <star314> tomreyn: no output.
[14:29] <tomreyn> then i'm afraid i don't know :/
[14:29] <johnnywalker> tomreyn, i have set sdb as the disk to boot, and btw windows can be installed that way
[14:30] <star314> tomreyn: It is very likely a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1599599
[14:30] <tenX> tomreyn: nobody does
[14:31] <Tinmann> hi folks.
[14:31] <tomreyn> johnnywalker: oh if the bios is setup to boot from that disk then installing grub to sdb is indeed the way to go
[14:31] <Tinmann> I bought a mini-DP to HDMI cable that has a strong smell.
[14:31] <Tinmann> What could be the smell?
[14:32] <jirido> Hi I dont know if this is the right place to ask but i use lxde that is a "display manager" so.. My laptop has a problem with lighting the display when wakening from suspend.. is  this a desktop manager problem and is there some command that could light it up/wake it for me?/part
[14:33] <PCatinean> hey guys
[14:33] <\9> Tinmann: could be anything as far as we're concerned
[14:33] <PCatinean> can anyone help me install openvpn on ubuntu?
[14:33] <\9> Tinmann: go ask who you bought the cable from
[14:33] <\9> Tinmann: this is ubuntu support
[14:33] <PCatinean> I did the sudo apt-get now I have to paste the .ca and .crt files in the openvpn directory?
[14:33] <johnnywalker> tomreyn, Yes but for some reason ubuntu installer tries to install it on the other unformatted disk and then fails
[14:34] <tomreyn> star314: it states "fix released", although i'm not convinced the person who tagged it this way is into bug triaging. you shoould probably report a new bug.
[14:34] <PCatinean> brb
[14:35] <tomreyn> johnnywalker: you can spwan a shell and do it manually: grub-install /dev/sdb
[14:35] <Tinmann> \9, It came from Rankie China.
[14:36] <tomreyn> johnnywalker: ...either by dselecting the option to do so from the installer mani menu or by hitting ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to an unused tty, then back to the installer using ctrl-alt-f7
[14:45] <tomreyn> waltman: i'm preparing a VM to try resemble the configuration you have there. are you still interested in giving it another try?
[14:46] <tomreyn> waltman: if so, could you tell me which mainboard you have there, and tell me about the HDD / SSD configuration again?
[14:46] <glitchd> hey all, iv got a simple query, how can i change the background of the lock screen on ubuntu 16.04.1 xubuntu-desktop?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> glitchd, settings > lightdm gtk+greeter settings > background > image
[14:49] <cfhowlett> fairly certain that's it
[14:49] <glitchd> cfhowlett, thx ill give it a try
[14:51] <glitchd> cfhowlett, yea its already set in there and i have the correct background at the login screen. however when i lock the screen, i only shows a blue background and not the one ive specified
[14:53] <glitchd> cfhowlett, ive even gone as far as changing the file to the one that i want in the folder /usr/share/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/, and after a reboot it still shows the blue background image
[14:53] <cfhowlett> glitchd, somehow I've set mine to randomize the login image
[14:53] <glitchd> cfhowlett, lol well thats nifty
[14:54] <cfhowlett> trying to recreate ...
[14:54] <glitchd> cfhowlett, sounds like youve set an entire folder to the background image instead of a single image
[14:54] <cfhowlett> I think that's it ...
[14:55] <glitchd> what file did you set that in?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> ? /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntustudio    it would seem
[14:57] <glitchd> cfhowlett, only folders in there are contest and xfce, no ubuntustudio
[14:58] <cfhowlett> cuz I have ubuntustudio which is built on xubuntu.  sorry for the misinformation
[14:58] <glitchd> np
[14:59] <glitchd> i have ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed
[14:59] <glitchd> instead of straight xubuntu
[14:59] <cfhowlett>        /usr/share/backgrounds/xubuntu     ?
[15:00] <glitchd>  
[15:00] <glitchd>   /usr/share/backgrounds/xfce
[15:03] <cfhowlett> right.
[15:05] <glitchd> cfhowlett, im gonna give ubuntu-tweak a try and hope for the best
[15:14] <glitchd> cfhowlett, yea ubuntu-tweak seems to have taken care of it. except it fixed it in an odd way. instead of the normal lock screen, it now just send me back to the login screen. but it works.
[15:15] <cfhowlett> glitchd, whatever's clever.
[15:15] <glitchd_> cfhowlett, indeed lol
[15:15] <glitchd_> cfhowlett, thx for the help anyways
[15:15] <cfhowlett> happy2try! glitchd_
[15:16] <glitchd_> cfhowlett, much appreciated
[15:21] <root_> hello
[15:21] <root_> hello
[15:21] <root_> chat
[15:21] <cfoch> Hello. Welcome.
[15:22] <CorvusCorax> Hi. I have a problem with a Notebook and suspend in 16.04 LTS  If I say "echo mem >/sys/power/state" it suspends and resumes fine. but if I use "sudo pm-suspend" or use the suspend button from the menu, video fails on resume
[15:22] <CorvusCorax> How can I change how ubuntu attempts to suspend to make it work?
[15:22] <root_> hello
[15:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> root hi and uhmm you shodun't run irc as root
[15:23] <root_> im need help
[15:23] <DArqueBishop> !ask
[15:23] <root_> please
[15:24] <cargo_pantz> my keyboard doesn't let me type # character (among others) is there a way to create it at command line?
[15:24] <root_> im find good apps for pentesters
[15:24] <wiggmpk> Is ubuntugnome.org an official Ubuntu release?
[15:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, uhmm Ubuntu GNOME is, but is that the offial site for it ?
[15:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ubuntugnome
[15:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !gnome
[15:25] <root_> help me for good tools please
[15:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ot
[15:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> root
[15:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> go there
[15:25] <wiggmpk> thank you SebthreeBQM10HD, I should have just clicked the download button, takes me to wiki.ubuntu.com lol
[15:25] <janaki> identify janaki janaki123
[15:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, have you got ubuntu installed already ?
[15:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, yeah wiki.ubuntu.com sounds ok
[15:26] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: I'm actually getting ready for a reinstall
[15:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, well make sure it's from the offical site then, and sure you could start with the ISO for that instead
[15:26] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: made some mistakes with my partitioning
[15:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, oh such as?
[15:28] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: encrypted home directory sounds nice, but it causes problems downloading games in Steam, torrents with longer file names being unable to be saved. I'd like to separate my /opt partition and put all my games on there so I don't have to reinstall them. I'd also like to check out Windows 10, pretty smooth in Virtualbox and looks nicer than the previous versions.
[15:29] <kyliebrooks> Hello, I just want to update on yesterday, MATE works better now!
[15:29] <root_> GOOD MATE
[15:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, yeah indeed encyrptin home can cause certain problems it seems, and that's mostly for the parnoid anyway :d
[15:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, plus if the whole didsk isn't encrypted anyway
[15:29] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: which I am lol
[15:29] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: it is lol
[15:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, I think if the whole disk isn't encrpted and just /home then things aren't so secure anyway
[15:30] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: I think anyway, need the passphrase to boot
[15:30] <root_> HELLO
[15:30] <rory> Full disk encryption with LUKS seems to be a LOT less error-prone than encrypted home
[15:30] <kyliebrooks> Thanks tomreyn. And to xangua I just want to apologize for any possible shittiness from me.
[15:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, oh and piracy naughty naughtey
[15:30] <wiggmpk> rory: like, wont have issues with filename length?
[15:30] <VileGent> root kill the CAPS please
[15:30] <root_> SEND ME PLEASE PARTICION DEFAULT FOR MOUNT MANUAL DEBIAN
[15:30] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: that's an assumption sir, I just said torrents
[15:31] <janaki> hi
[15:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, well yeah, but most torrent downloads are that
[15:31] <rory> wiggmpk: etc etc yes
[15:31] <rory> root_: what problem are you havin?
[15:31] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: I do have a pirate ship tattoo on my leg so you weren't wrong lol
[15:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, 75% or so of Intenet downlads if not more is that
[15:32] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: I have been considering going back to Debian, but I'm just not sure yet
[15:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Debian why ?
[15:32] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: just some weird things that kind of upset me. Like for instance, hidden startup applications.. I don't get it
[15:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, and yes the real anti piracy police may come after you, and then demand for the encryption key as well :D
[15:32] <nicomachus> !ot | all
[15:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hidden start up applications in ubuntu such as?
[15:33] <nicomachus> please keep ALL chat in here to ubuntu supported related issues, and move all other discussion to #ubuntu-discuss
[15:33] <root_> HELOO NAKARI
[15:33] <nicomachus> ubuntu support related issues*
[15:33] <root_> SEND LINKS PLEASE
[15:34] <nicomachus> root_: do not use all caps.
[15:34] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: vino-server, vinagre, etc
[15:34] <root_> FOR TERMINAL
[15:34] <nicomachus> root_: what is your issue?
[15:34] <tenX> nicomachus: isnt it obvious?
[15:34] <kyliebrooks> I'd like to reinstall the dependencies of the package ubuntu-mate-desktop. How do I do this?
[15:34] <VileGent> nicomachus, it wants debian support
[15:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, hidden start up    applications such as?
[15:34] <nicomachus> kyliebrooks: sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-mate-desktop
[15:34] <nicomachus> !debian | root_
[15:35] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: vino-server, vinagre, etc
[15:35] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[15:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, yes some things will start up by deafult
[15:35] <VileGent> wiggmpk,  startup apps or startup services
[15:35] <sundareda> hello
[15:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wiggmpk, some of which may not be needed though I GUESS
[15:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sundareda, HI
[15:36] <sundareda> i need some advice
[15:36] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: and I'm ok witht hat, but they shouldn't be hidden intentionally
[15:36] <kyliebrooks> nicomachus, I did that,  and the output only reinstalls ubuntu-mate-desktop. So I guess all is good
[15:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ask sundareda
[15:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ask
[15:36] <sundareda> i have a laptop with intel atom d2500 and i want to install ubuntu in order to learn ethical hacking
[15:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sundareda, with what ?
[15:36] <nicomachus> SebthreeBQM10HD: you have to pipe to the username. so !command | user
[15:36] <analyser> !patience
[15:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sundareda, ethical hacking what do you mean?
[15:36] <wiggmpk> SebthreeBQM10HD: vinagre still loads automatically after a reboot and there is no reference to it in /etc/xdg/autostart or ~/.config/autostart so I'm clueless to why it is happening now
[15:36] <nicomachus> sundareda: I would argue that something like Kali Linux is better for that.
[15:37] <nicomachus> SebthreeBQM10HD: white hat pen-testing, I suppose.
[15:37] <sundareda> nicomachus : i hear kali linux is too much for my system
[15:37] <wiggmpk> nicomachus: or Backtrack
[15:37] <nicomachus> sundareda: I can't speak to that, not sure what Kali needs.
[15:37] <VileGent> wiggmpk, alot of people want to vnc in to their boxes  so that why those are started by defualt you can disable the service and they will not
[15:38] <nicomachus> !kali
[15:38] <tenX> oh man this is a mess
[15:38] <nicomachus> sundareda: you may be able to ask in #kali-linux about it.
[15:38] <wiggmpk> sundareda: try Backtrack linux
[15:38] <nicomachus> tenX: what is?
[15:38] <kyliebrooks> OK one more question. I'm looking for start @ login applications. Where do I find this in GNOME ?
[15:38] <VileGent> kyliebrooks, in sessions
[15:38] <tenX> nicomachus: in- and output is
[15:39] <root_> go to software centerç
[15:39] <nicomachus> kyliebrooks: you can search in the Dash for Startup Applications
[15:39] <root_> go to software center and download gnome
[15:39] <root_> compiz
[15:39] <nicomachus> root_: please do not give bad advice.
[15:39] <tenX> go home and download gnome
[15:39] <kyliebrooks> nicomachus, I'm on GNOME.
[15:39] <nicomachus> that is terrible advice and makes no sense.
[15:39] <wiggmpk> kyliebrooks: the config files are stored in /etc/xdg/autostart/ and ~/.config/autostart/ as well
[15:40] <nicomachus> kyliebrooks: ah, right, sorry. what version of Ubuntu?
[15:40] <root_> settings manager
[15:41] <nicomachus> root_: stop, or leave.
[15:41] <kyliebrooks> nicomachus, I found it, System > Preferences > Personal > Startup Applications. For future refereence Ubuntu 16.10
[15:41] <root_> hello
[15:42] <VileGent> kyliebrooks, repost nicomachus had left
[15:42] <wiggmpk> kyliebrooks: you might also want to look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[15:42] <root_> hello
[15:42] <blacksev> hello root
[15:42] <nicomachus> kyliebrooks: yea, please say version again. had to hop machines.
[15:43] <wiggmpk> nicomachus: think he found it mate
[15:43] <nicomachus> ok then.
[15:43] <root_> please send me links for tools
[15:43] <nicomachus> root_: please leave.
 nicomachus, I found it, System > Preferences > Personal > Startup Applications. For future refereence Ubuntu 16.10
[15:43] <JP____> root as $ instead of #
[15:43] <JP____> :lol:
[15:44] <root_> blackserv you have experience in linux
[15:44] <blacksev> yea
[15:44] <VileGent> JP____, and hopefully its not on IRC as #
[15:45] <blacksev> i am a linux researcher and a programmer
[15:45] <root_> send me help please
[15:45] <root_> im new
[15:45] <nicomachus> !guidelines | root_ start here
[15:46] <nicomachus> come back after reading them thorougly.
[15:46] <root_> and like to create 1new group for pentesters
[15:46] <JP____> Hahahaha
[15:46] <tenX> and leave while reading
[15:46] <root_> in comunity
[15:46] <JP____> Go read documentation
[15:46] <JP____> ALmost 5 here, in good mood
[15:46] <JP____> Anyone need help?
[15:46] <tenX> JP____: i do
[15:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and not run irc as root_ :D
[15:46] <JP____> Ask away
[15:47] <tenX> JP____: ahm where to start now
[15:47] <root_> im find for create a group for pentesting
[15:47] <nicomachus> Pici please
[15:48] <root_> im need 10 person expert
[15:49] <blacksev> yes root
[15:49] <tenX> JP____: my update issue with ncurses 5 to 6 on gentoo?
[15:49] <root_> for the teachers for this group
[15:49] <nicomachus> tenX: this is not gentoo support.
[15:49] <nicomachus> !ops | root_
[15:49] <tenX> JP____: or the 8 tb usb drive spinning down ignoring hdparm cmds?
[15:49] <tenX> nicomachus: glad you pointed that out m8
[15:49] <root_> send all info for mi gmail
[15:50] <root_> ismael.241282@gmail.com
[15:50]  * nicomachus sighs
[15:50] <wiggmpk> lol
[15:50] <VileGent> nicomachus, times like this is when /ignore works the best
[15:51] <tenX> JP____: or my fluxbox setup with 3 seperate screens acting strangely on any usb device disconnect?
[15:51] <nicomachus> VileGent: unfortunately he's clogging up a very busy channel.
[15:51] <root_> were is the people like to practice for pentest
[15:51] <nicomachus> he needs to go. but I think all the ops are on holiday
[15:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> root_,  your off topic
[15:51] <root_> or here is only for lamers
[15:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> root_, try ##linux for your pen test question
[15:52] <nicomachus> or ##security
[15:52] <nicomachus> but they haven't listened to anything else that was said, so idk why bother.
[15:52] <tomreyn> just ignore, carry on
[15:53] <tomreyn> who needs ubuntu support?
[15:53] <root_> thanks all for your times
[15:53] <root_> good bye
[15:54] <VileGent> bored kiddies out on holiday break
[15:54] <nicomachus> MATE will run on a Pi, won't it?
[15:54] <JP____> TenX: was afk
[15:55] <JP____> TenX: also, your problems are waaaaay out of my expertise
[15:55] <JP____> :p
[15:55] <JP____> I can barely spell terminator
[15:55] <JP____> Terminal*
[15:55] <tenX> JP____: D np
[15:55] <sundareda> hello
[15:55] <sundareda> i still need help
[15:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nicomachus, on a pi yes
[15:55] <nicomachus> hi sundareda. can you restate the issue?
[15:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sundareda, hi
[15:56] <sundareda> i have a 1gb ram intel atom d2500 laptop and i want to install a linux distribution so that i can lean pen testing
[15:57] <Snowboarder> U
[15:57] <tomreyn> sundareda: 1 gb ram is not much these days. you'll best stick to a simplistic text based or graphical window manager.
[15:57] <VileGent> !kali | sundareda
[15:58] <VileGent> sundareda, check out kali or backtrack
[15:58] <tomreyn> sundareda: or you could add more ram, ask about this in ##hardware
[15:59] <sundareda> tanks
[15:59] <VileGent> sundareda, i advise at least 2G of ram and you will have to run 32bit
[15:59] <nicomachus> sundareda: Kali would run on that.
[15:59] <nicomachus> but ask in ##linux, too. they cover all bases.
[15:59] <tomreyn> ubuntu would run on it as well
[15:59] <tomreyn> just not with unity
[16:00] <wokeas> i need help since i installed ubuntu and delted windows my laptop has been freezing the only way to stop it is to hold the power of button. i realised this is because my laptop is designed for windows so im trying to get windows back on. o have windows on a usb stick but i dont know how to boot from it. please help or else my laptop is unusable.
[16:00] <nicomachus> MATE probably would.
[16:00] <shatur> hey! I faced a problem when I updated my kernel version to 4.4.0-57 from 4.4.0-45. all my laptop drivers stopped working. Is this a known problem??
[16:00] <Poster> I have also had success with lubuntu on older hardware
[16:00] <nicomachus> shatur: shouldn't be. which drivers?
[16:00] <VileGent> i ran what is now mate on a netbook like that
[16:00] <tomreyn> wokeas: are you asking an ubuntu channel to help you install windows?
[16:01] <wokeas> im asking them to help me boot a usb via ubuntu
[16:01] <shatur> nicomachus: actually all
[16:01] <shatur> my ethernet wlan sound
[16:01] <Snowboarder> How about puppy linux. Doen t demand a lot of ram
[16:01] <nicomachus> shatur: you can revert to the older kernel from Grub.
[16:01] <VileGent> Snowboarder, he wants to use it for pentesting so he will want more ram
[16:02] <shatur> nicomachus: yeah I am curently using -45
[16:02] <tomreyn> wokeas: yopu'll best ask this in ##windows
[16:03] <wokeas> tomreyn: i get why uyou say that but all i need to know is how to boot from a usb stick in ubuntu i dont know how to boot with ubuntu, so it does concern ubuntu
[16:03] <nicomachus> wokeas: booting from a USB has nothing do with Ubuntu. You just need to select the right boot order from your BIOS.
[16:03] <Poster> wokeas: Ubuntu will not boot to a USB drive, that is your system BIOS
[16:03] <wokeas> okay my bad ill go
[16:03] <tomreyn> wokeas: if you change your mind and want to try stabilizing your ubuntu installation, #ubuntu is the right channel. not for anything else, though.
[16:04] <nicomachus> and it can be done, woke
[16:04] <nicomachus> oh he left. :/
[16:04] <tenX> nicomachus: wtf
[16:04] <Poster> shatur: After rebooting to 4.4.0-45, you can check to see if you maybe needed the extra modules that may be needed.
[16:04] <nicomachus> tenX: ?
[16:04] <shatur> Poster: how??
[16:04]  * VileGent new to ubuntu, but has been using linux for 20+ years
[16:05] <Poster> you can try: sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-image-extra
[16:05] <Snowboarder> Ubuntu restricted extras, maybe?
[16:05] <Poster> if you see 4.4.0-45 and NOT 4.4.0-57, you will want to do "sudo apt-get install -y linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic"
[16:06] <Poster> Snowboarder: yeah that could be it too ; I suspect there may be missing modules with 4.4.0-57 which are present on 4.4.0-45
[16:07] <tenX> nicomachus: what drives you to monitor any conversation being possibly off topic?
[16:07] <nicomachus> tenX: trying to keep this channel on-topic.
[16:07] <shatur> Poster: output>>http://paste.ubuntu.com/23695143/
[16:08] <tenX> nicomachus: man
[16:08] <Poster> shatur: ok that's encouraging, try this: sudo apt-get install -y linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic
[16:09] <Poster> after that installs, try rebooting to 4.4.0-57
[16:09] <shatur> Poster: rebooting
[16:12] <MrSassyPants> Question: I got myself a i7 6700k for christmas. Should I disable hyperthreading?
[16:13] <shatur_> Poster: now it works \o/
[16:13] <shatur_> Poster: thanks!!
[16:13] <sruli> MrSassyPants: what can you possibly gain by disabling it?
[16:14] <MrSassyPants> sruli, less chances of the scheduler screwing up and putting two jobs on the same (real) cpu while there are still unused (real) cpus
[16:15] <sruli> MrSassyPants: i never experienced those issues...
[16:17] <VileGent> MrSassyPants, NO
[16:17] <MrSassyPants> VILEGENT, WHAT
[16:17] <VileGent> should you disable hyperthreading NO
[16:18] <MrSassyPants> Because...
[16:18] <VileGent> why would you need to
[16:18] <VileGent> the issue you described was fixed years ago
[16:18] <MrSassyPants> because you still only have 4 physical cpus
[16:18] <VileGent> and better to use them all
[16:22] <Snowboarder> U
[16:26] <distortedvoice> I have a 380X hooked up through HDMI. I can't get any audio out. I have checked that things are unmuted.
[16:26] <nicomachus> distortedvoice: do you have the audio device set to HDMI?
[16:27] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, yes
[16:27] <nicomachus> ok. which driver are you using?
[16:27] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, open source
[16:27] <nicomachus> radeon?
[16:27] <waltman> tomreyn: I finally got the install to work! Thanks for all your help yesterday!
[16:28] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, yes
[16:28] <waltman> The problem turned out to be some bios raid stuff I hadn't cleared out.
[16:29] <waltman> I'd turned off the bios raid, but it turns out I also had to go into the bios raid config and undo things there as well. Apparently that was confusing the installer, because I did that one thing, reinstalled and this time it booted up!
[16:29] <nicomachus> distortedvoice: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:29] <nicomachus> and paste that link here, please.
[16:30] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, http://termbin.com/bz0a
[16:31] <nicomachus> distortedvoice: on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line, add radeon.audio=1 after quiet splash. inside the ""
[16:31] <nicomachus> then save and close, and run sudo update-grub
[16:31] <nicomachus> and then reboot.
[16:32] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, stand by
[16:33] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, ok, done
[16:34] <nicomachus> rebooted?
[16:34] <zartarr2212> Hey guys having issues with OpenGL drivers
[16:34] <zartarr2212> for steam
[16:34] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, yes. Still nothing when I select spotify to output to tonga HMDI
[16:34] <zartarr2212> GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc is not supported error. Update Open GL Drivers when trying to launch dota 2 from steam
[16:35] <nicomachus> distortedvoice: check /etc/default/grub again to make sure that parameter is still there.
[16:35] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, it is
[16:35] <nicomachus> hmmm... ok. checking.
[16:36] <nicomachus> what's the ubuntu version number and kernel version?
[16:36] <distortedvoice> Linux Z97 4.4.0-57-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Fri Dec 9 23:50:32 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:36] <distortedvoice> 16.04
[16:38] <nicomachus> do you have audio through any other outputs?
[16:38] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, yes. My I get audio through my headphones
[16:38] <distortedvoice> realtek
[16:39] <nicomachus> through aux off the motherboard?
[16:39] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, correct
[16:39] <komputer> hello i dont know anything about hacking or other stuff like that i was using ubuntustudio edition and i sold my computer to someone here. i wonder if he lookup to guestsession and look at my firefox browsing data. doest firefox history shown on guest session? my question is this.
[16:40] <Jojo> hello
[16:41] <Guest60007> Hi
[16:41] <nicomachus> distortedvoice: are you opposed to trying the AMDGPU-Pro driver?
[16:41] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, no
[16:41] <tonyyarusso> komputer: It doesn't matter whether firefox shows it or not - if they *wanted* to see your history, they could just access to relevant files on the hard drive.
[16:41] <nicomachus> distortedvoice: may be worth a shot, just to make sure it's a driver issue.
[16:42] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, how do I check the current driver?
[16:42] <nicomachus> distortedvoice: sudo lshw -C video
[16:42] <distortedvoice> oh I found it with lshw -c video
[16:42] <distortedvoice> amdgpu
[16:42] <nicomachus> ha
[16:42] <nicomachus> oh so it is amdgpu?
[16:42] <Joseph> hello
[16:42] <distortedvoice> yes
[16:42] <Joseph> Can anybody chat
[16:43] <VileGent> define chat
[16:43] <Joseph> Hello?
[16:43] <Snowboarder> Sure joseph
[16:43] <tomreyn> waltman: sweet! glad you were able to work it out. fakeraids are tricky. :/ as is uefi. i wanted to recommend to disable it, but i guess if it works now, that's ok.
[16:43] <Joseph> I am nine years old and got a raspberry pi 2 for christmas
[16:43] <DArqueBishop> Ask | Joseph
[16:43] <DArqueBishop> ....
[16:43] <DArqueBishop> Damnit.
[16:43] <DArqueBishop> @ask | Joseph
[16:44] <DArqueBishop> !ask | Joseph
[16:44] <Joseph> What/
[16:44] <nicomachus> DArqueBishop: !ask. also, language... he just said he was 9.
[16:44] <DArqueBishop> I'm going to stand in the corner with a dunce cap now.
[16:44] <Joseph> why
[16:44] <tomreyn> hi Joseph, and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:44] <Joseph> Hi temreyn, thanks
[16:44] <DArqueBishop> Sorry, nicomachus.
[16:44] <Joseph> sorry tomreyn
[16:44] <nicomachus> distortedvoice: ok, well that answeres that question. amdgpu doesn't support audio yet. You can use the proprietary AMDGPU-Pro driver to get audio. You MAY be able to switch to the OSS radeon driver, but I'm not really sure.
[16:44] <VileGent> Joseph, does your pi boot into noobs?
[16:45] <Joseph> I tried noobs but switched to berryboot
[16:45] <tomreyn> Joseph: that's fine. ;) do you have a n ubuntu support question?
[16:45] <Joseph> No
[16:45] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, ah thank you. I will give the proprietary a shot.
[16:45] <Joseph> I am duel booting Raspbain and Ubuntu Mate
[16:46] <tomreyn> Joseph: okay, since this channel is only meant for this one purpose, ubuntu support. you can discuss your xmas present in #ubuntu-offtopic, though
[16:46] <\9> that's pretty impressive for a 9 year old
[16:46] <waltman> tomreyn: I think it was only partially disabled before. Now it's more disabled!
[16:46] <nicomachus> \9: yeaaaaa....
[16:46] <Joseph> Oh, sorry, just getting started
[16:46] <nicomachus> Joseph: no problem! you're off to a good start. Try joining the raspberry pi support channel at #raspberrypi
[16:46] <tomreyn> Joseph: that's alright ;) you'll know next time.
[16:48] <mmanso> Hi all...
[16:48] <EriC^^> hi
[16:48] <Snowboarder> Hi
[16:48] <tomreyn> buenos tardes mmanso
[16:48] <mmanso> My company has a ubuntu-based software that is installed in customers using an Acronis Image
[16:49] <Snowboarder> Ou 5hit
[16:49] <mmanso> Nowadays we've machines with EFI bios and legacy ones... it's possible to have an image that can support both?
[16:49] <tomreyn> !language | Snowboarder
[16:50] <EriC^^> mmanso: i think so
[16:50] <EriC^^> mmanso: not sure what acronis is or what you mean exactly, could you elaborate?
[16:50] <mmanso> It's something like clonezilla
[16:50] <Snowboarder> Is it runing via vbox?
[16:50] <JojoCrazy> I cannot connect to other servers
[16:50] <JojoCrazy> can someone help
[16:50] <mmanso> it does an image of a hard drive and allows to restore it.
[16:50] <JojoCrazy> Please
[16:51] <nicomachus> !details | JojoCrazy
[16:51] <EriC^^> mmanso: so you want that image to be bootable on uefi and legacy machines?
[16:51] <VileGent> JojoCrazy, way to little detail to even guess at your issue
[16:51] <mmanso> EriC^^:  yes, so it can support both boot types... I'm just not getting what I should do to achieve such a thing.
[16:52] <JojoCrazy> It says you need to be identifyed with servers
[16:52] <thinky> hello
[16:52] <thinky> is it possible to install ubuntu in sd card and run from it?
[16:52] <VileGent> JojoCrazy, what server are you referring to
[16:52] <nicomachus> !register | JojoCrazy
[16:52] <JojoCrazy> #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with servers
[16:53] <JojoCrazy> It says this
[16:53] <Snowboarder> Thinky: yes
[16:53] <VileGent> JojoCrazy, what ubottu posted above
[16:53] <EriC^^> mmanso: well, uefi has a list of efi entries, and they point to an efi file that's located on a fat32 efi partition, and the partition table is usually gpt, legacy for it to work with gpt needs a bios-boot partition so grub can be installed there
[16:53] <thinky> Snowboarder: how is the performance on sd card?
[16:53] <thinky> i mean full ubuntu desktop not live cd
[16:53] <VileGent> thinky, slow
[16:53] <thinky> really?
[16:53] <thinky> :S
[16:53] <VileGent> yes
[16:54] <EriC^^> mmanso: if you create a gpt partition table, and a bios-boot partition and an efi partition, you could install grub-pc (legacy) and have it install itself in the bios-boot partition, and then install the grub-efi-amd64-signed package and have grub-efi install to the efi partition
[16:54] <thinky> too slow comparing 7200 rpm 2.5 laptop harddrives?
[16:54] <Snowboarder> Thinky: depends on it s reading and writing speed
[16:54] <thinky> sandisk 128gb has 90mbps
[16:54] <sruli> i changed my updates in 10periodic to not do unattended-upgrades, however when there is an update for the "unattended-upgrades" package it asks me if i want to overwrite/keep etc.. are there any consequences outside of unattanded-upgrades if i never update this package?
[16:54] <mmanso> EriC^^:  I've created a gpt partition scheme, 1 partition with 200mb fat32 for efi, one for swap and one for the root filesystem... Do I need an extra one for the bios-boot?
[16:54] <thinky> mb/s
[16:54] <Snowboarder> Y
[16:54] <VileGent> thinky,  sdcard or ssd
[16:54] <thinky> sd card VileGent
[16:55] <VileGent> sd cards like camera cards a) will be very slow and will wear out
[16:55] <EriC^^> mmanso: still though uefi uses the efi list in its nvram to boot the efi file so a fresh pc wouldn't have ubuntu there, you could try to let grub install with the argument --removable-disk or something like that, and it will install the efi file to <efi partition>/efi/Boot/Bootx64.efi which is the standard path for removable disks
[16:56] <EriC^^> mmanso: if you can control the process further, i'd have it copy that file to <efi partition>/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi as that's the default path for windows and most uefi is hardcoded to boot that by default
[16:56] <thinky> https://www.sandisk.com/home/memory-cards/sd-cards/extreme-sd-uhs-i
[16:56] <EriC^^> mmanso: yes you need a 1mb bios-boot partition (hex code ef02)
[16:56] <mmanso> EriC^^: What I'm trying here is to create a standard image that can boot both situations one it's flashed in one machine or the other.
[16:56] <thinky> Read Speed: up to 90 MB/s Write Speed: up to 60 MB/s
[16:56] <EriC^^> mmanso: yup
[16:56] <VileGent> thinky,  and depending on your usb bus in the computer
[16:56] <EriC^^> i think it should work, i've no actual experience trying it however
[16:57] <mmanso> EriC^^:  also, does this only work on x64 machines?
[16:57] <thinky> it is 2.0
[16:57] <thinky> usb 2.0
[16:57] <mmanso> Sorry, x64 ubuntu images
[16:57] <EriC^^> mmanso: why do you ask?
[16:57] <VileGent> are you using an external sdcard reader or internal
[16:57] <EriC^^> i mean you can't install a 32bit image on a 64bit anyways right?
[16:57] <mmanso> EriC^^:  the base image we're using is ubuntu 12.04 32 bits
[16:57] <thinky> VileGent: internal i guess?
[16:57] <mmanso> EriC^^: will I be able to do this on it?
[16:57] <VileGent> mmanso, efi is 64bit
[16:57] <thinky> it is infront of my laptop
[16:58] <EriC^^> mmanso: there is a 32bit efi version
[16:58] <VileGent> thinky, so you have no idea what the speed of that bus is
[16:58] <EriC^^> grub-efi-ia32 or something
[16:58] <thinky> VileGent: how can i find out?
[16:58] <VileGent> thinky, test it
[16:58] <EriC^^> mmanso: this is the package grub-efi-ia32
[16:58] <thinky> hmm
[16:59] <VileGent> thinky,  lsusb |pastebinit
[16:59] <mmanso> EriC^^: So, I create the partitions, I install ubuntu in legacy mode (which the installed does by default) and after that I use the grub-efi-ia32 to configure the EFI into the EFI parititon. Something like this?
[16:59] <tomreyn> mmanso: while the approach EriC^ and you discussed should work fine (for 64-bit systems), have you considered to switch from a disk imaging to a pxe installation method? it can be more efficient, and, moreover, much more flexible.
[16:59] <VileGent> thinky,  myself i would rather use a standard use key
[17:00] <VileGent> thinky,  so i take it that your hd has died
[17:00] <mmanso> tomreyn: our commercial application is distributed to dealers which "flashes" machines with it
[17:00] <mmanso> it's easy for them to use
[17:00] <tomreyn> i see
[17:00] <thinky> VileGent: no it is not died
[17:00] <thinky> i dont wanna waste space of my ssd
[17:00] <thinky> it doesnt have enough storage
[17:00] <EriC^^> mmanso: yeah that's it, also remember the switch to give grub
[17:00] <mmanso> tomreyn: problem is that nowadays we've different machines with different boot types and the image should handle them
[17:01] <EriC^^> mmanso: and also maybe copying it to aforementioned windows path
[17:01] <thinky> i am using dual boot currently and i thought instead of creating partition for ubuntu i could install it in sd card
[17:01] <distortedvoice> nicomachus, the pro drivers work great. Thanks for your help.
[17:02] <mmanso> EriC^^: the machine has no windows... these instalations are for single OS (ubuntu)
[17:02] <EriC^^> mmanso: yes, it's cause when you put the image on a fresh pc it wont have the efi entries in its uefi
[17:02] <EriC^^> and windows path and efi/boot/bootx64.efi are default hardcoded paths in the uefi
[17:02] <tomreyn> mmanso: i admit pxe comes with its own set of complexities, your approach is probably better if you are dealing with a diverse (and loosely defined) set off hardware
[17:03] <mmanso> EriC^^: when I create the image with the disk image packages, it will copy all the partitions and data on it... probably the uefi partiiton will be copied to...
[17:03] <thinky> brb
[17:03] <citazen> hi ppl. i just got a used hp 64b win 10 pro. and thinking of wiping it with a linux distro so i can run my wordpress site. and was suggested to look into ubuntu. is that what i should be using and why?
[17:03] <EriC^^> mmanso: the uefi efi list is in the nvram
[17:03] <EriC^^> the motherboard
[17:04] <mmanso> EriC^^: Oh... I though it was on the partition created for it.
[17:04] <EriC^^> mmanso: i dont mean the efi partition, i mean to add those files *in* the efi partition
[17:04] <vpeter> Hi, I finaly set up VNC server as I like. But now I have another issue: keyboard in gnome terminal is fine, firefox is fine but konversation IRC client is broken. I can't type quertz - instead I get c.gvn*. Is there any solution for this? Google finds lots of same issues without a fix which would work for me (Ubuntu 16.04.1 + tightvncserver).
[17:05] <EriC^^> the files are in the partition, the list that points to the files is in the actual pc
[17:06] <mmanso> EriC^^: It would be nice if some distribuiton had a ISO that deals with all this already :)
[17:06] <EriC^^> mmanso: the standard iso boots on both uefi and legacy
[17:07] <EriC^^> you're making a custom one though right?
[17:07] <mmanso> EriC^^: how can I build mine based on that? :)
[17:07] <EriC^^> !custom
[17:08] <EriC^^> there's a factoid but i dont remember :D
[17:08] <mmanso> EriC^^: the image I make is based on the instalation made on a particular machine (where I did the image)... if my image did what ubuntu default one does to boot and then used the installed software, that would be great.
[17:09] <EriC^^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[17:10] <ioria> !uck
[17:10] <Hanumaan> trying to cmake got this error "Looking for pthread_create in pthreads - not found"
[17:10] <EriC^^> mmanso: i don't really know a lot about these kind of stuff, hopefully someone who knows more can steer you in the right direction
[17:15] <tomreyn> !remaster | EriC^^
[17:15] <tomreyn> but you had all of this already
[17:16] <tomreyn> AKA !customlivecd !remastering
[17:16] <EriC^^> yeah that factoid has them all though
[17:16] <VileGent> tomreyn, does that allow you to do iso with all the updates ?
[17:16] <tomreyn> VileGent: i don't know
[17:17] <VileGent> tomreyn,  thanks i will look into it ( i have been producing updated iso for fedora for 10+ years)
[17:17] <tomreyn> VileGent: since "with all the updates" is not a persistent state (it will get outdated after just a few days or even hours), why does it matter?
[17:18] <tomreyn> VileGent: i'd just stick to point releases and install updates from there.
[17:19] <tomreyn> VileGent: "point releases" refers to the updates releases of major releases, i.e. 16.04.0 -> 16.04.1 -> 16.04.2 ...
[17:19] <tomreyn> *updateD
[17:19] <VileGent> tomreyn, i understand, but updates fix bugs
[17:20] <sruli> i changed my updates in 10periodic to not do unattended-upgrades, however when there is an update for the "unattended-upgrades" package it asks me if i want to overwrite/keep etc.. are there any consequences outside of unattanded-upgrades if i never update this package?
[17:20] <tomreyn> VileGent: yes, that's why you should use the latest point release to install, and install updates from the network either during or post installation
[17:20] <VileGent> and at times it is better to install with all the fixes out of the box so people are not vunerable to the major bug of the month (heartbleed, madcow etc)
[17:21] <VileGent> sruli, it depends on the package and the reason it was updated
[17:22] <sruli> VileGent: package is "unattended-upgrades"
[17:22] <mmanso> EriC^^: thanks a lot for the info... I'll try to find more...
[17:23] <tomreyn> sruli: why don't you just uninstall the package if you don't want the functionality?
[17:24] <tomreyn> this would also stop configuration change prompts during upgrades
[17:24] <sruli> tomreyn: can do that, same question applies, re there any consequences outside of unattanded-upgrades if i remove it?
[17:24] <tomreyn> sruli: well the consequence is that one of the software on your ocmputer doesn't get updates, including security updates. not a good idea.
[17:24] <EriC^^> mmanso: no problem buddy
[17:25] <sruli> tomreyn: i update manually...
[17:25] <tomreyn> sruli: didn't you say you don't upgrade the packaghe "unattended-upgrades"?
[17:25] <Two> HU
[17:25] <Two> HI
[17:26] <tomreyn> welcome Two AKA Guest74816
[17:26] <Guest74816> NICK tWO
[17:27] <Guest74816> OOPSIE
[17:28] <sruli> tomreyn: thats what i was aking about.. you said to remove and consequence = no updates, i update manually, so the question is this package, apart from what it says on the tin does it have any other functionallity?
[17:29] <sruli> tomreyn: i update manually = i update all the other sys files..
[17:30] <sharkshark_> Hey, I'm trying to run a youtube-dl command in terminal, but it says permission denied. How do I solve this? I was told not to run command lines with sudo, since its only for administrative purposes.
[17:31] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: in which dir are you running it?
[17:33] <schwarzekatze> Hello, is it normal that Unetbootin takes very long to create a Windows 10 bootable USB stick? It is stuck at 51% with the file "sources/install.wim" for several minutes now.
[17:33] <EriC^^> schwarzekatze: that's the biggest file in the windows install
[17:33] <EriC^^> so give it some time i'd say
[17:34] <schwarzekatze> Oh, okay. Thanks ^^
[17:34] <EriC^^> schwarzekatze: np
[17:34] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: my default dir when opening terminal
[17:34] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: type "pwd"
[17:34] <schwarzekatze> I'm trying to get a dualboot with Win 10 and Ubuntu 16.04. Hope it will work.
[17:36] <diskin> how can it be that there is no /var/log/Xorg.0.log file in a system running X?
[17:36] <VileGent> diskin, yes
[17:36] <EriC^^> diskin: try starting X from a tty and see if it mentions anything
[17:38] <diskin> EriC^^, VileGent thanks. it's not on my machine, it's on a client's laptop. I wanted to see parameters of running X, specifically DRI and Accel, but there is no log file.
[17:46] <citazen> wqhats better for a wordpress server. ubuntu or arch?
[17:47] <j41> citazen: probably Ubuntu, because it's quicker to setup than arch, but correct me if I'm wrong
[17:48] <citazen> k speed setup
[17:48] <cage_raphel> !patience
[17:48] <cage_raphel> !patience
[17:49] <cage_raphel> !man who
[17:49] <cage_raphel> !man grep
[17:49] <citazen> !grep
[17:50] <ioria> cage_raphel, may we help you ?
[17:50] <cage_raphel> !manman
[17:50] <VileGent> citazen, whichever you are the most comfortable with
[17:50] <citazen> Vile i know arch
[17:50] <VileGent> then use arch
[17:50] <citazen> so yeah i guess i go with them for server too
[17:50] <citazen> tyvm
[17:52] <LinuxNovice> hello...
[17:53] <LinuxNovice> I have Ubuntu installed along with Mint in my laptop. Dual booting. Now I want to remove Mint. How can I do that?
[17:54] <LinuxNovice> I want only Ubuntu be shown at the time of boot up.
[17:54] <LinuxNovice> I think, it is know by the name Grub menu. I am not sure.
[17:57] <VileGent> LinuxNovice, so edit your grub and remove it
[17:57] <LinuxNovice> how to do that?
[17:59] <Przhevalskoye> UbuntuMATE ftw
[17:59] <VileGent> LinuxNovice, google has those answers i am getting ready to leave so i dont have time to spoonfeed you
[17:59] <LinuxNovice> also, I want to register my nick in ##linux. How can I do that?
[17:59] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: pwd   /home/shark
[18:00] <VileGent> !register | LinuxNovice
[18:01] <LinuxNovice> ok. thanks a lot.
[18:07] <koxxxsss> hello
[18:09] <Guest27571> guys, could I get some help with drivers? https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/ is this the same as mesa? is it something else? I have an amd hd 7770 with updated mesa drivers using padoka's ppa, however when I run glxgears -info it shows opengl 3.0 instead of 4.5 or at least 4.3
[18:11] <az> hello, the command tail -f /dev/zero freeze my system. is it normal? I tried this to check
[18:11] <az> timeout -s SIGKILL 5s tail -f /dev/zero
[18:12] <nomic> well don't do it az
[18:12] <az> I was doing some testing. wanted to know if it's a normal or something stupid
[18:21] <az> "timeout -s SIGKILL 5s tail -f /dev/zero" seems to freeze my machine but other people say it's ok. it's distro specific or it's fine on your devices too? I can not even Ctrl+c , I had to reboot to get out
[18:30] <babu__> dir
[18:31] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: are you still around?
[18:31] <EriC^^> yes
[18:31] <EriC^^> what's up
[18:32] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: the dir im working at is /home/shark
[18:33] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: are you able to create files there? try "touch /home/shark/something"
[18:34] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: worked, created a something.txt file in /home/shark dir
[18:36] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: paste the error you're getting in youtube-dl in paste.ubuntu.com
[18:39] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23695868/
[18:40] <ioria> sharkshark_, ls -l /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
[18:42] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: why are you using a manually installed version of youtube-dl ?
[18:42] <EriC^^> why not the repo version
[18:42] <sharkshark_> ioria: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1171936 Apr 11  2016 /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
[18:42] <ioria> sharkshark_,  the file it's not executable
[18:43] <ioria> sharkshark_,   chmod +x
[18:43] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: I really don't know. Should I uninstall and reinstal from github?
[18:44] <ioria> sharkshark_, repo ver not working ?
[18:45] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: install the repo version
[18:45] <sharkshark_> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23695887/ , It doesn't work, says permission denied when trying to execute a command
[18:45] <EriC^^> !info youtube-dl xenial
[18:46] <EriC^^> uninstall the one you have right now, then sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[18:46] <ioria> sharkshark_,  sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
[18:46] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: Ok, i think i did install it that way, but I also added the GUI for simpler usage
[18:46] <duckhead> hey what is the best room for help with CentOS 7
[18:46] <ioria> sharkshark_,  chmod +x  requires a file to be applied ... you can't use without a filename
[18:47] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: try dpkg -l | grep youtube-dl
[18:47] <EriC^^> duckhead: #centos
[18:47] <duckhead> hey what is the best room for help with CentOS 7
[18:47] <duckhead> hey what is the best room for help with CentOS 7?
[18:48] <duckhead> Forbidden
[18:48] <duckhead> You don't have permission to access /phpmyadmin/ on this server.
[18:48] <duckhead> does anyone know how to fix this?
[18:49] <distortedvoice> duckhead, chown www-data phpmyadmin
[18:50] <FinalX> rather check why it can't access that location first instead of blindly chowning files you might regret later
[18:51] <Guest11445> test
[18:53] <arthur_> k
[18:53] <arthur_> Hello
[18:54] <arthur_> oi
[18:54] <arthur_> hello
[18:54] <sharkshark_> EriC^^, ioria: ok, i deleted the previous version, installed from terminal. Trying same command on a single YT song, having more issues: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23695931/
[18:54] <ikonia> you said this
[18:54] <shreyasminocha> hey!
[18:54] <arthur_> i know
[18:54] <shreyasminocha> I'm new here.
[18:54] <arthur_> me too
[18:55] <arthur_> i am learning about linux
[18:55] <ioria> sharkshark_,  you still using the old version
[18:55] <shreyasminocha> Me too.
[18:55] <shreyasminocha> Um, I'm on a vm actually.
[18:55] <shreyasminocha> 16.10
[18:56] <arthur_> im using debian right now but i was ubuntu
[18:56] <ioria> sharkshark_,  ERROR: no write permissions on /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl   , the repo ver should be in /usr/bin not local
[18:56] <arthur_> for a long time
[18:56] <shreyasminocha> I just bought a MBP.
[18:56] <sharkshark_> ioria: ok, lemme try to fix that
[18:56] <arthur_> cool
[18:57] <arthur_> congratulation kkkkk
[18:57] <shreyasminocha> arthur_ How old are you?
[18:57] <arthur_> 14 years old
[18:57] <shreyasminocha> Wow, I'm 15.
[18:57] <shreyasminocha> arthur_ Develop?
[18:57] <arthur_> a little
[18:57] <arthur_> basic of c and python
[18:57] <shreyasminocha> arthur_ which languages are you learning?
[18:58] <arthur_> python and c
[18:58] <arthur_> and you?
[18:58] <shreyasminocha> arthut_ pretty cool, I'm currently developing an application in node.js
[18:58] <shreyasminocha> arthur_ js, c++ and some basic python
[18:58] <xangua> !ot
[18:58] <arthur_> sorry my english isnt verry good
[18:59] <shreyasminocha> sorry
[18:59] <arthur_> i live in brazil
[18:59] <shreyasminocha> let's move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <arthur_> ok
[18:59] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: try "which youtube-dl"
[19:00] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: I am probably just horrible at this, but still get the same error https://paste.ubuntu.com/23695961/
[19:00] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: try dpkg -l | grep youtube-dl
[19:00] <EriC^^> anything listed there?
[19:01] <sharkshark_> ioria:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23695961/
[19:01] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
[19:01] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: shark@shark-Latitude-E6410:~$ dpkg -l | grep youtube-dl ii  youtube-dl                                      2016.06.25-2                                all          downloader of videos from YouTube and other sites
[19:02] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: ok, try sudo mv /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl{,.youtube-dl.backup}
[19:02] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: the older version is still there being used
[19:02] <ioria> sharkshark_,  you need to remove the manually installed version
[19:02] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: sudo mv /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl{,.youtube-dl.backup}    nothing happened
[19:03] <sharkshark_> ioria: well i did remove and purge, still there. Any other methods of removing it ?
[19:03] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: that means it worked
[19:04] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: you have to remove it the way you installed it
[19:04] <EriC^^> probably "make uninstall" from the extracted tarball path
[19:04] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: anyways try sudo apt-get install --reinstall youtube-dl
[19:05] <EriC^^> it should use the repo version youtube-dl now ("which youtube-dl" will tell you what executable its using)
[19:06] <sharkshark_> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23695996/
[19:06] <ioria> sharkshark_,  if you installed from github with a script, check it for a unistall target
[19:09] <nomius> Hi
[19:09] <shreyasminocha> hey
[19:09] <shreyasminocha> What are the regulations out here?
[19:09] <sharkshark_> ioria: well I lack knowledge to have installed it in some fancy way, probably used something like   sudo curl -L https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl -o /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
[19:10] <nomius> I'm installing rsyslog to "forward" logs to another server that accept syslog format... When I install rsyslog it installs by default the file /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf which creates the logs (besides the journal)... Is it there a way to tell apt/apt-get "hey, don't create this file"?
[19:10] <ioria> sharkshark_,  not sure could work that method
[19:11] <odroid> How do I change my nickname?
[19:11] <terrible> hello someone can help me with plexmediaserver service??
[19:11] <EriC^^> /nick newnick
[19:12] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: if that's all you ran then the sudo mv command should suffice
[19:12] <EriC^^> it renamed the binary to /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl.backup
[19:13] <sharkshark_> EriC^^, ioria: well I don't really remember how i installed it, must have been a simple method since im not that experienced in linux
[19:14] <ioria> sharkshark_,  move away that file from /usr/bin/local  and install  with apt-get install
[19:14] <odroid-c2> Mate 16.04 - How did I determine the path for the webserver that got installed / configured with the installation of odoo comunity ver10?
[19:15] <sharkshark_> EriC^^, ioria: ok i managed to get it to /usr/bin/youtube-dl
[19:15] <zodiac19> had dual boot settup from 2 hard drives, one windows, one kubuntu, grub installed to dualboot. I removed the linux drive to replace it with a 1tb hard drive and tried to boot up windows to which i get put into grub rescue mode, i wish to enter windows and partion my new hard drive so i can transfer my kubuntu files onto one of the two partions, any ideas?
[19:15] <ioria> ok
[19:15] <odroid-c2> To access the odoo server I enter localhost:8069 in the address bar of my browser
[19:16] <sharkshark_> EriC^^, ioria: now i get this https://paste.ubuntu.com/23696049/
[19:16] <suudy> Can anyone point me to an IRC channel to discuss 802.3 layer 2 stuff?
[19:17] <ioria> sharkshark_,  call it with /usr/bin/youtube-dl
[19:17] <EriC^^> zodiac19: boot a live usb
[19:17] <zodiac19> guess i need to settup a usb
[19:17] <EriC^^> sharkshark_: type "type -a youtube-dl"
[19:18] <EriC^^> zodiac19: yeah
[19:18] <EriC^^> !usb | zodiac19
[19:19] <odroid-c2> Can anyone help me - ate 16.04 - How did I determine the path for the webserver that got installed / configured with the installation of odoo comunity ver10?
[19:19] <odroid-c2> To access the odoo server I enter localhost:8069 in the address bar of my browser
[19:20] <odroid-c2> I would like to host a site in addition to odoo on my server?
[19:20] <nomius> Any ideas?
[19:22] <sharkshark_> EriC^^, ioria: alright, it seems to be working
[19:23] <sharkshark_> EriC^^, ioria: thank you linux wizzards, i promise to learn this magic so there's less people with stupid questions
[19:39] <Skeet> Can someone help with botched ubuntu packages. My whole system seems to be broken/ won't boot to desktop only terminal
[19:40] <ikonia> Skeet: what happened
[19:42] <Skeet> ikonia: tried updating the other day, wasnt paying attention/ half asleep and ever since then I've been fighting a battle through terminal commands trying to get grub back to normal, got it fixed now I cant boot in desktop so I am currently booting from live ubuntu usb
[19:42] <ikonia> Skeet: what actually happened though, something must have happened for it to break
[19:43] <Skeet> it looks like my ubuntu is mixed with kali honestly however I dont have kali
[19:43] <ikonia> that doesn't just happen
[19:44] <ikonia> you must have done something, like try to add kali repos packages for example
[19:44] <Skeet> can you help recover my system?
[19:44] <ikonia> Skeet: what actually happened
[19:44] <ikonia> Skeet: you need to explain what's happened
[19:45] <ikonia> lets be honest, kali packages don't just magically appear, so why don't you tell us what you did
[19:46] <Skeet> ubuntu notified me of updates, i updated, it said something about grub update i chose yes, i rebooted and my dualboot grub menu was effed. I fixed it through boot-repair and tried loading ubuntu. goes to loging screen and says gnome session unsupported error then goes to terminal
[19:47] <Skeet> i once had kali on this laptop a very long time ago but wiped and put ubuntu in its place
[19:47] <ikonia> Skeet: so where did the kali packages come from
[19:47] <Skeet> when i looked at my repo it had ppa: katoolin kali as two listed
[19:47] <ikonia> Skeet: so you added a ppa
[19:47] <Skeet> yes
[19:47] <ikonia> so why didn't you just just say that
[19:48] <Skeet> a long time ago, but i thought i uninstalled them
[19:48] <ikonia> "I've added a PPA and now I have package conclifcts"
[19:48] <Skeet> sorry, just have a headache trying to fix this
[19:48] <ikonia> you need to be far more honest
[19:49] <ikonia> you know what you've done but you make it sound like a simple update broke things
[19:49] <ikonia> when the reality is you've added PPA's
[19:49] <Skeet> so how do I go about fixing this
[19:49] <ikonia> whats the actual problem
[19:50] <Skeet> i cant boot in my desktop. it goes straight to terminal.
[19:50] <ikonia> Skeet: ok, so X is failing to start, you need to read the X org log to see why it's failing to start
[19:51] <Skeet> how do I do that?
[19:51] <ikonia> open it in a text file and read it for errors and warnings
[19:54] <lubit> ciao
[19:59] <Skeet> here is my xor.log from my var/log/ dir    http://paste.ubuntu.com/23696235/
[20:00] <ikonia> Skeet: I don't need to see it
[20:00] <ikonia> Skeet: I need you to look at the errors and warnings to understand why it's not starting
[20:03] <ioria> Skeet, and btw you're running wily, (or a 4.2 kern) not supported anymore
[20:04] <Skeet> I would love to update but I'm having some troubles trying to understand why it's not loading. I dont see errors but I see a bunch of warnings
[20:05] <AndChat366225> Hi folks.  I am trying to do aow
[20:06] <ioria> Skeet, login loop or what ?
[20:06] <AndChat366225> I am trying to do aow level formatting with dd U random for my partition but I get input output error.  How can I fix this?
[20:07] <Skeet> ioria: just boots to terminal instead of desktop
[20:07] <ioria> Skeet,  cat /etc/issue
[20:07] <Skeet> Kali GNU/Linux Rolling \n \l
[20:08] <ikonia> so it's kali then
[20:08] <ikonia> not ubuntu
[20:08] <ioria> Skeet,  you removed splash from grub file
[20:08] <ioria> Skeet,   Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-42-generic root=UUID=a514717e-c1fd-4a38-84e3-1cb52ff32e95 ro quiet
[20:09] <Skeet> how can I change that?
[20:09] <ioria> Skeet,  cat /etc/default/grub
[20:09] <ikonia> this is kali
[20:09] <ikonia> this is not for this channel
[20:09] <ioria> oh...
[20:09] <ioria> Skeet,  sy
[20:10] <Skeet> it is ubuntu...it has ppa repo from kali
[20:10] <ioria> worse then ever
[20:10] <ikonia> ppa doesn't change the release
[20:11] <Skeet> Current Operating System: Linux DV6-CPTSKEET 4.2.0-42-generic #49~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 29 20:22:11 UTC 2016 x86_64
[20:11] <ikonia> yet lsb_release disagrees
[20:11] <ikonia> Skeet: just re-install
[20:12] <Skeet> I would if i can retrieve my files from my desktop.
[20:12] <ikonia> cp /home/$username/Desktop
[20:12] <Skeet> root@ubuntu:/# lsb_release No LSB modules are available.
[20:12] <ikonia> Skeet: this all looks very dodgy
[20:12] <ikonia> root is the username - thats not ubuntu
[20:13] <ikonia> your kernel shows a username different thatn "ubuntu" yet PS1 is set to "ubuntu"
[20:13] <Skeet> why do you believe I came to this irc channel
[20:13] <Skeet> this is why I am having issues
[20:13] <ikonia> Skeet: backup your files and re-install
[20:15] <Skeet> can you help me gain access to the desktop on my /dev/sda5 then so I can retreive my files and put them on an external usb?
[20:15] <ikonia> Skeet: you don't need /dev/sda5
[20:15] <ikonia> if it's booting into the command prompt, you can access it from /home/$username/Desktop
[20:25] <Guy1524> hey guys, I got a second monitor for christmas which I put to the left of my main monitor, the problem is that when fullscreen windows open in my secondary monitor, I am unable to move them to my primary monitor
[20:25] <Guy1524> what do I do?
[20:27] <maeple> which de/wm? can you try moving the window when it's not fullscreen?
[20:27] <Guy1524> maeple: Just default Ubuntu (Unity).  Yes, I am able to move the window when it is not fullscreen
[20:28] <maeple> hm
[20:28] <maeple> well, then there's nothing wrong with the dual monitor setup at least
[20:28] <Guy1524> ik
[20:28] <Guy1524> but how do I move the fullscreen window?
[20:29] <maeple> can you try picking it up / moving it using the multi monitor display on the right hand side?
[20:30] <Guy1524> what are you talking about
[20:30] <Guy1524> well I figured out a workaround
[20:30] <Guy1524> if I enable workspaces
[20:31] <ioria> Guy1524, i recall something like 'Put' option in compiz , can't help more then that
[20:31] <Guy1524> I can do SUPER + S and drag it over
[20:31] <ioria> *than
[20:31] <Guy1524> i guess Ill use that for now if there isn't a better way
[20:32] <maeple> perhaps there is, but I don use unity.
[20:34] <Krenair> Hi, I have a new Dell Inspiron 15 7000 laptop
[20:34] <Krenair> it has a problem with sound when running ubuntu. it's fine with windows
[20:34] <Krenair> it started off with sound working correctly, then after some use it stopped
[20:34] <Krenair> after rebooting it no longer even recognises the sound devices
[20:37] <Krenair> this is with ubuntu trusty
[20:37] <Krenair> I think the issue would be somewhere with pulseaudio, alsa, or the drivers
[20:38] <Krenair> in the sound settings it just has "Dummy Output" now
[20:39] <smaudet> still having problems with pulseaudio huh...
[20:41] <tomreyn> !sound | Krenair
[20:41] <ioria> Krenair, aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[20:41] <Krenair> I hear nothing ioria
[20:42] <Krenair> aplay -l says no soundcards found
[20:42] <ioria> Krenair, cat /proc/asound/cards
[20:42] <Krenair> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[20:42] <Krenair>  /proc/asound doesn't exist..
[20:43] <ioria> Krenair, cat /etc/issue
[20:44] <Krenair> ioria, Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[20:44] <Krenair> smaudet, still? I don't think I've come here for help with this one
[20:44] <ioria> Krenair, cat /proc/asound/cards   again, please
[20:45] <Krenair> alex@alex-laptop:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[20:45] <Krenair> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[20:46] <ioria> Krenair, something wrong... in the worst case you would have 'no sound cards'
[20:47] <ioria> Krenair, lspci | grep -i audio
[20:47] <Krenair> there's nothing returned
[20:48] <ioria> Krenair, uname -r
[20:48] <Krenair> 4.4.0-57-generic
[20:48] <ioria> Krenair, your sound card is dead ?
[20:49] <Krenair> it was working with windows
[20:49] <ioria> Krenair, ok, so can you paste     lspci
[20:49] <Krenair> shall I go and try it again, and also with the ubuntu live media?
[20:49] <Krenair> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23696476/
[20:50] <ioria> Krenair,  no sound card
[20:51] <ioria> Krenair, sudo lshw -C Multimedia
[20:52] <Krenair> ioria, that did say "PCI (sysfs)" briefly but then removed that from the terminal again
[20:52] <ioria> Krenair, check in windows
[20:53] <Krenair> okay. I'll reboot to windows, check there, get the name of the device, and also check the ubuntu live media for the outputs of these commands there. then I'll come back here
[20:53] <Krenair> (my bouncer will stay online)
[20:53] <ioria> Krenair, ok
[20:56] <General_Failure> /set/theme fear2
[20:56] <daedeloth> quick question: I have a dual boot with windows 10 running on my ssd, and I have a 3tb spare disk for data
[20:57] <daedeloth> I was planning to format 2tb in ext4 and 1tb in ntfs
[20:57] <daedeloth> but perhaps that's silly and I should just mount ntfs?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> daedeloth, yes use one or the other , but not both
[20:58] <OerHeks> well, you cán ..
[20:58] <daedeloth> well the data doesn't really have to be shared and 3tb is way more than I'm planning to use
[20:58] <daedeloth> can windows properly mount ext4 already?
[20:59] <OerHeks> it can, with a tool, but i would not trust writing.
[20:59] <daedeloth> and linux with ntfs?
[20:59] <OerHeks> ntfs is standard available.
[20:59] <daedeloth> I feel like I just should go for the 2 partition solution
[21:00] <OerHeks> exfat needs some tools too, fuse
[21:00] <daedeloth> so you would go for 3tb ntfs partition?
[21:00] <OerHeks> for interchange, yes
[21:00] <BluesKaj> to access ext in windows you'll need ext2fs
[21:01] <daedeloth> hm I'm still going to go for 2tb ext4 - 1tb ntfs, I can resize if required and I'm on linux most of the time
[21:01] <daedeloth> also I have no idea what i'm going to do with 2tb anyway
[21:02] <OerHeks> heh, 1 tb ext4, 1 tb ntfs, and some free space to backup your ssd now.
[21:02] <daedeloth> backup ssd is not a bad idea
[21:03] <daedeloth> can I do that?
[21:05] <OerHeks> sure, 'disks' can backup and restore partitions and whole disks.
[21:05] <OerHeks> or manually dd
[21:09] <FishPencil> In this guide http://help.ovh.com/Ipv4Ipv6#link9 why is the interfaces IPv6 address different than the ipconfig results
[21:13] <Keo-w> so when doing a releae upgrade
[21:13] <Keo-w> not to auto remove packages?
[21:14] <kk4ewt> if you dont remove packages how is it going to upgrade
[21:14] <Keo-w> basically trying to upgrade from 12 to 14 and i get what bulletxt is getting where it wants to remove my mail server =\ https://bugzilla.zimbra.com/show_bug.cgi?id=107149#c4
[21:16] <Keo-w> kk4ewt: if you look at Jorge de la Cruz logs his doesn't remove his zimbra packages not sure what the difference is
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Keo-w  make a backup, first
[21:17] <Keo-w> i have a snapshot already, i went through it all just to try and my zimbra mail server was removed
[21:17] <Keo-w> thats why i'm back with the reverted snapshot looking for ideas
[21:23] <gp> anyone happen to have a brother ql-1060n working with cups on ubuntu?
[21:27] <Krenair> update on my sound issue:
[21:27] <Krenair> I checked windows
[21:27] <Krenair> it doesn't work. Last time I checked it was just when Ubuntu originally started having temporary issues, and I probably didn't run it long enough to see the same thing
[21:27] <Krenair> given that both ubuntu (installed and live media) and windows both don't work with it, I guess there's a hardware issue
[21:28] <Krenair> thanks for your help ioria
[21:34] <designbybeck> Upgraded 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS ....now to install stuff I have to have a UbuntuONE account? I thought That went away? I haven't been asked anything about needing UbuntuOne on my clean 16.04 Laptop install?...... You can't install Snaps without it?
[21:34] <designbybeck> ls
[21:34] <tomreyn> gp: i havbe not checked whether there are ppd's provided by the linuxprinting.org DB, but therte seems to be a vendor driver: http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=ql1060neus&os=130
[21:36] <aruns> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on a Dell Latitude E5400.
[21:36] <aruns> I can connect to the router downstairs, but not to the booster on the first floor.
[21:37] <aruns> The wi-fi extender is using a 2GHZ radio frequency.
[21:37] <aruns> Maybe my laptop is not compatible with this frequency?
[21:37] <Krenair> bah
[21:37] <Krenair> rebooted and it sees sound devices again
[21:37] <aruns> It is using the Intel Wi-Fi Link 5100 NIC.
[21:38] <designbybeck> You have to have UbuntuOne for SNAP install on 16.04??????
[21:39] <OerHeks> designbybeck, never noticed that.
[21:40] <tomreyn> gp: there's a PPD embedded in the 'cupswrapper' script in the driver you can download from the above location
[21:41] <designbybeck> OerHeks: On my this 14.04 to 16.04 upgrade...it uninstalled Hexchat, so I was going to try to install it again and it was trying to get me to sign into  it
[21:42] <designbybeck> OerHeks: Trying to get me to install UbuntuOne to install Snaps? http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=110529
[21:43] <tomreyn> just use the hexchat apt packages instead
[21:43] <OerHeks> designbybeck, again, never noticed this ...
[21:44] <OerHeks> but i would install snaps via terminal usually
[21:45] <OerHeks> designbybeck, oh, i see now, softwarecenter does this.
[21:45] <designbybeck> Hmmm
[21:45] <codygman> I'm ssh'd into my desktop whose usb ports apparently went to sleep after it suspended, how can I wake them up?
[21:46] <designbybeck> But I don't think this happened on my clean 16.04 install on my laptop. I never used a UbuntuOne account for anything with that laptop, just this upgrade
[21:47] <gp> tomreyn: thanks for the link. I had tried that driver but the ppd doesn't seem to work. the cups error log complain about a missing filter. when I read through source files in the tarfile download i didn't see anything referencing the filter so I am not sure where it comes from
[21:48] <gp> tomreyn: i'll give installing all of their linux downloads a shot and see if that fixes the problem
[21:48] <codygman> Perhaps my hdmi just won't output to my screen and that's why it's not coming on after suspend
[21:52] <yangm97> I just installed ubuntu with a minimal set of packages (and zfs root <3). Now I get to choose which display manager, window manager, etc. I'm going to run steam games (from in-home stream), kodi and also would like to display just dance now eventually (requires a browser with flash).
[21:52] <yangm97> Should I try wayland, mir or stick with x11? can I use a lightweight wm like i3wm or something else? Don't want to go out and install the whole ubuntu-desktop package.
[21:59] <TomEos5D2> hello - does anybody know how to easily set cpu governor to performance and have the computer remember that setting during restarts?
[22:02] <ecksit> heya - for some reason when my 14.04 server is running unattended upgrades, it is ignoring the verbosity level that i've set in the apt conf files. i've run the command via strace and it's definitely reading them in, just not following it.
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> TomEos5D2  plenty howtos online, here's one http://askubuntu.com/questions/318780/how-to-set-cpufreq-governor-to-performance
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> TomEos5D2  ignore that link, it's not clear
[22:04] <Apra_> Hey...I am running Linux 64-bit on my vb...when I try to install mongodb I get this
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> Apra_  which Linux distro?
[22:05] <Apra_> http://imgur.com/a/G4aDf
[22:05] <TomEos5D2> i dont want to set it but set and keep it forever
[22:06] <TomEos5D2> every reboot gives me the powersave again what I dont like
[22:08] <OerHeks> !info mongodb
[22:08] <OerHeks> universe ..
[22:08] <Apra_> MonkeyDust: ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64
[22:09] <Frigid_Cryotank> I've been asked to install Ubuntu onto (into?) an Intel Joule 570x board.  I've downloaded a Ubuntu image ... and now it wants me to use Ubuntu's Startup Disk Creator to get the image onto a SDHC card.
[22:09] <tomreyn> ecksit: you can run this for debugging: sudo unattended-upgrade --debug --dry-run
[22:10] <snowcatman> i have ubuntu 16.04 need to reinstall linux-headers-4.4.0-53 idk how to do that. help
[22:10] <Frigid_Cryotank> I have two tools that let me scribble binary files to sdhc.  rufus under Windows... and dd under a different release of Linux.
[22:11] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: What is the issue as -57 is the current kernel version ?
[22:12] <snowcatman> will not upgrade
[22:12] <tomreyn> ecksit: see also apt.conf(5) for debugging options
[22:13] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: Out of disk space is often seen here . Pastebin ' df -h ; df -i ; dpkg -l | grep linix- ' and let's see what we can do to find the fault .
[22:14] <sarek> Anyone know the appropriate free node channel to find help with postfix?
[22:14] <ecksit> thanks @tomreyn but neither of those have told me why it's not using the values i've defined :(
[22:14] <ecksit> at every step i've debugged it, it's got the wrong verbosity that doesn't match the configuration.
[22:15] <sruli> how can i print "time" only part with stat command?
[22:18] <ecksit> @sruli, `stat --format <char>`. see `man stat` for the options.
[22:19] <snowcatman> " sudo apt-get upgrade " gets error the package linux-headers-4.4.0-53 needs to be reinstalled, but cant find an archive for it. " pastebin command not found
[22:19] <sruli> ecksit: been going over the man stat for last 10 minutes, cant find a way to output time only...
[22:20] <ecksit> `stat --format '%z' filename` works for me
[22:21] <Apra_> This is the msg I get when I try to install mongodb :http://imgur.com/a/G4aDf
[22:21] <Bashing-om> !Pastbinit | snowcatman
[22:21] <ecksit> @sruli, there are loads of formats and options for time - that is just one example
[22:22] <snowcatman> i dont think i can install pastbin. will try again
[22:22] <sruli> ecksit: that command gives full date + time + timezone, i want only time H-M-S
[22:23] <ecksit> you'll need to check the docs for your required format but it's definitely possible
[22:23] <OerHeks> Apra_, is this the live iso? run sudo apt-get update first for fresh lists.
[22:23] <ecksit> you could also pair it with `awk` to reformat it however you need it if it's not already supported
[22:25] <Apra_> OerHeks: Yes its a live iso
[22:25] <snowcatman> pastebin.com/dHGW9Tj9
[22:25] <sruli> ecksit: i am using 5 instances of sed + tail to get what i need at the moment.. trying to shorten it "stat -c %y Filename | | sed 's/\..*//; s/-//g; s/\://; s/ //g; s/\:/./' | tail -c 8"
[22:26] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: To use the pastbinit, will have to install the tool . In this case may not be able to install anything . ther is termbin we can use . sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 . Will work for us .
[22:26] <ecksit> wow, that's a lot!
[22:26] <ecksit> two seconds
[22:26] <snowcatman> ok, working on it
[22:29] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: K; sorta mistified by " but I can't find an archive for it." . But we will work at it to find what is not going on here .
[22:30] <Apra_> OerHeks: I ran the command you told
[22:30] <user_____> test
[22:30] <snowcatman> thank you Bashing-om
[22:32] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: We start with what ' sudo apt update ' ^^ relates .
[22:32] <ecksit> @sruli, `stat -c %y /etc/cron.daily | awk -F. '{print $1}' | awk '{print $2}'` is slightly more reable
[22:32] <ecksit> readable* even
[22:35] <Ubuntu1216> Hi guys im looking for assistance will wireless drivers. please let me explain...
[22:36] <Ubuntu1216> usb wifi is using module r8712u. lsmod confirms its loaded. problem is its not connecting
[22:36] <[MAU]LusTiger> not really able to help you but:
[22:37] <[MAU]LusTiger> I've HEARD that linux mint has other (better) Wifi-Module support
[22:37] <Ubuntu1216> now if i either unplug and replug device in it connects or if i sudo modprobe -r r8712u then sudo modprobe r8712u the device connects.
[22:37] <[MAU]LusTiger> and i've HEARD that linux mint is place 1, ubuntu is 2, according to distrowatch
[22:37] <Ubuntu1216> im confused to why this is happening
[22:39] <Ubuntu1216> ive also tried putting the modules in /etc/modules but that seems kind of pointless as ubuntu loads it by default
[22:39] <sruli> ecksit: thanks, still need to pipe to another 2 instances of sed to get desired format "0145.23"
[22:40] <snowcatman> pastebin/r2QDBQGy
[22:41] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: I get " Your search - pastebin/r2QDBQGy - did not match any documents. : try again ??
[22:41] <snowcatman> i get same thing
[22:43] <anli> I seem to not be able to change the number of desktops, using gnome-session-flashback
[22:43] <gp> unfortunately I haven't been able to get the brother vendor supplied drivers working for the ql-1060n. they install the printer by default for usb but this one is networked =/
[22:43] <anli> I can set it, but it will be reset
[22:44] <gp> anyone ever been able to use a windows printer server ipp queue as a printer and been able to print with cups?
[22:45] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: I got it . " pastebin.com " anyway yakkety with " 1194 packages can be upgraded. " what gives here ? That is an unreal number !
[22:45] <snowcatman> yes i think so too
[22:46] <ogonotron> hi
[22:46] <snowcatman> i dont know a hole lot about linux ubuntu. its way i came for help
[22:46] <Bashing-om> !tab | snowcatman
[22:47] <ogonotron> hey guys, I have a weird bug with keyboard shortcuts on gnome
[22:47] <ogonotron> alt tab changes windows but how do I do this for the same application?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: Is this a fresh install .. with 1194 pending upgrades not likely - else what are you upgrading from ? .. this to have an idea of how to proceed here .
[22:47] <anli> Can I have nautilus opened when I press super+E in gnome?
[22:48] <IamKrilcov> where can i find a good resource for hardening my desktop 16.04?
[22:49] <gebruiker> anli: probably yes, you have to setup keyboard shortcuts. most Desktop Environments and / or Window Managers have it. I would suggest you to ask in #gnome to be sure
[22:49] <gebruiker> anli: also state which version of gnome you are using and the ubuntu version
[22:49] <snowcatman> upgrading from 16.04 to latest. your right not a fresh install. this is my plex media center. plex.tv
[22:51] <tomreyn> snowcatman: is this a linux distribution based on ubuntu?
[22:51] <gebruiker> IamKrilcov: ubuntu wiki
[22:51] <snowcatman> it is ubuntu
[22:53] <tomreyn> snowcatman: show the output of: sudo apt-get update  2>&1 | pastebinit; sudo apt-cache policy 2>&1 | pastebinit
[22:53] <snowcatman> ok working on it
[22:54] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: oh you were already helping him, i didnt notice, sorry.
[22:55] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: snowcatman Hard row to hoe here , we can try .
[22:56] <tomreyn> snowcatman: the above commands will error out unless you have the "pastebinit" software (package) installed
[22:56] <IamKrilcov> how do I register my nick?
[22:56] <snowcatman> it will not install
[22:57] <tomreyn> !register | IamKrilcov
[22:57] <tomreyn> snowcatman: you will need to be more verbose than that
[22:58] <snowcatman> i am not able to install anything at this point
[22:58] <tomreyn> what does this return: echo 'Hello world' | pastebinit
[22:58] <tomreyn> snowcatman: ^
[23:00] <snowcatman> i am working from 2 pc's it will take me a little bit to give you a answere...    command not found
[23:01] <ogonotron> guys wtf? I just installed ubuntu gnome today and getting loads of crashes
[23:01] <ogonotron> and some functionality just not working
[23:01] <ogonotron> is this the norm for ubuntu?
[23:01] <tomreyn> snowcatman: ehco 'Hello world' | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:03] <anli> I made a mistake, cannot sudo any longer, was replacing secure paths with /
[23:04] <aurigae> I just opened a 2004 barolo in your and the devs honor
[23:04] <anli> I thought it was recursive
[23:04] <snowcatman> termbin/K9gz
[23:05] <anli> Can I reset the suoders file?
[23:05] <snowcatman> ok think i am starting to feel a pit releaved something worked. smiles
[23:06] <sruli> anli: can you "sudo su" ?
[23:06] <anli> Ah, I did pkexec visudo
[23:08] <snowcatman> ok next step please
[23:09] <Antares> http://rexant.org.ru/Sektor_Gaza.torrent
[23:09] <anli> I managed to edit the sudoers file, nice, now, I tried to add a line like anders  ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL with no apparent effect
[23:09] <anli> I am still prompted for password when I run sudo
[23:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[23:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> anli, sudo should have a password
[23:10] <ogonotron> can anyone here me?
[23:10] <anli> ok, but I do not want it to have one
[23:10] <kahrn> yup
[23:10] <dachy> Hey guys, I'm looking at some tutorials on setting up ubuntu as a router, using iptables, and am wondering what the difference between these commands are:  iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT and  iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -j ACCEPT
[23:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, no
[23:11] <sruli> anli: is it not safe to have sudo without password, however you might need to logout and log back in for that change to have effect
[23:11] <ogonotron> k, well this gnome desktop is scaring me
[23:11] <ogonotron> it doesn't do what I tell it to do
[23:11] <anli> ok, I do not select linux for it safety at the moment
[23:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, oh ?
[23:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> how so ?
[23:11] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: termbin.com/K9gz gives a 404 error . Not able to termbin to this time . try again . we must have a means to see the results of commands .
[23:11] <kk4ewt> sruli, man iptables but iirc -j log
[23:11] <aurigae> ogonotron, you might feel more comfortable with xfce
[23:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> XFCE uh
[23:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> GNOME Nice :)
[23:12] <ogonotron> keyboard shortcuts for starters, switch between windows of an applications does not work http://pasteboard.co/1uZSVtDvA.png
[23:12] <sruli> dachy: -P = policy. -A = rule,
[23:12] <kahrn> ogonotron: once gnome 3 has the right extensions it is good
[23:12] <dachy> sruli: explain it to me like i am 5
[23:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, kahrn by default it's good
[23:12] <ogonotron> I come from cinnamon, it's not the ui that's the problem, its the fact that it is broken
[23:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> broken how ?
[23:12] <sruli> dachy: pay me! ;-)
[23:13] <ogonotron> well keyboard shortcuts dont work as they should
[23:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cinnamon is based on gnome 3 as well
[23:13] <sruli> dachy:  the policy applies to all interfaces the rule adds an exeption
[23:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, don't use keyboard shorcuts
[23:13] <snowcatman> http://termbin/K9gz
[23:13] <kahrn> SebthreeBQM10HD: I hate gnome by default. Takes ~10-15 extensions to make it "how i want". just my opinion :)
[23:13] <dachy> sruli: heh. well, yes/no question, is the first command, with the policy, ok to use? this router will be directly connected to internet and i am afraid of this being abused
[23:14] <dachy> sruli: i've no idea of iptables tho, and no way to know if its ok or not :/
[23:14] <ogonotron> so you see my screenshot http://pasteboard.co/1uZSVtDvA.png. If I have say two nautilus windows open and I press crtl and tab then it should switch between them?
[23:14] <snowcatman> brb trying again
[23:14] <sruli> dachy: in your case i might suggest "iptables -P FORWARD REJECT" to deny all traffic, and "iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -j ACCEPT" to add a rule to specifically allow this interface to forward
[23:15] <sruli> dachy: make sure you have local access to the machine before playing with iptables policies and rules in case you get yourself locked out
[23:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, you move around with the mouse mostly in GNOME I think
[23:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or touch screen
[23:16] <dachy> sruli: yeah i have local access :)   i will set it up with the second way then :)
[23:16] <dachy> sruli: i prefer to be restrictive more than permissive when i dont know for sure, which is kinda why i was wondering about the first command
[23:17] <dachy> sruli: thanks for the sanity check
[23:17] <ogonotron> ok so it's just me that thinks it not acceptable for keyboard shortcuts to simply not work as they are intended?
[23:17] <sruli> dachy: the way you originaly posted, you dont need the rule (-A forward) as the policy is already set to allow all... if you want to limit access you have to start with a policy to first deny all
[23:17] <sruli> dachy: dont forget to add a rule to allow established and related
[23:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, there are keyboard short cuts too, but I don't use
[23:18] <ogonotron> yeah but they should work right?
[23:18] <snowcatman> http://termbin.com/1nqy ok it works now
[23:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, I guess if they are the GNOME ones
[23:18] <dachy> sruli: well, i used  ufw to set deny all on the incoming for the external interface... bit unsure how well this works with iptables commands directly :/
[23:19] <sruli> dachy: i never used ufw, i dont know if it will work well together with iptables.. maybe someone else can answer that
[23:20] <dachy> sruli: how would one verify that the firewall/external side is set up ok?
[23:20] <sruli> ogonotron: what is the issue exactly? no shortcuts work or only some?
[23:21] <ogonotron> http://pasteboard.co/1uZSVtDvA.png look at this pls
[23:21] <sol2017> hi
[23:21] <sruli> ogonotron: and? what is the issue
[23:21] <ogonotron> ok 3 different closely related keyboard shortcuts: switch windows - switch applications - switch windows of an application
[23:21] <ogonotron> but they ALL just switch windows
[23:22] <ogonotron> they all do the exact same thing
[23:22] <sruli> dachy: i would have a clue how to answer that.. learn how to be a pen tester.. after you finished your setup paste it to paste.ubuntu.com and see if someone wnats to have a look and comment
[23:22] <ogonotron> so if I open say 2 firefox windows and i press ctrl + tab it should only switch between firefox instances rigth?
[23:23] <ogonotron> not all my other windows / apps too
[23:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> maybe
[23:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> not on gnoem or firefoxnow
[23:23] <sruli> ogonotron: let me fire up a gnome vm.. few minutes
[23:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, I think one keyboard shortcut in gnome is to go through everything that's open all programs
[23:24] <ogonotron> dude it has nothing to do with firefox, thats just an example of a window
[23:24] <dachy> sruli: much appreciated, thanks a lot!
[23:24] <ogonotron> but you see the screenshot right? 3 different commands not one
[23:24] <snowcatman> http://termbin.com/n09d
[23:25] <ogonotron> it's like driving a car and i change gear but everytime it only goes into reverse
[23:25] <ogonotron> stick shift
[23:25] <sruli> ogonotron: "change gear" is the correct term ;-)
[23:25] <ogonotron> i like the look of gnome but it seems broken to me
[23:26] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: This is a busy channel, if you do not use nicks to address  then your entry will be lost in the traffic .
[23:26] <ogonotron> sorry to sound like an ass but running Linux mint cinnamon im used to things just working
[23:26] <incognito-dg> I'm running gnome in 14.04 and all the applets on the right hand disappeared in cluding web connection indicator, volume, time, date, user, and the gear like power off symbol. How can I get them back. I tried several commands I found online, but didn't work. One of them made my whole gnome panel disappear.
[23:26] <ogonotron> and im no noob with linux, just new to gnome
[23:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, Cinnamon will work in any distro that supports it :)
[23:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or should
[23:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, Mint is mostly pointless now, afer they dropped codecs by default I think
[23:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, screenshot link again so I can go on,  can't easilly scroll up on this tablet
[23:27] <ogonotron> seb you dont seem to understand the context of my issue
[23:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> in this set up
[23:27] <snowcatman> sorry Bashing-om, working on my skills still
[23:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, it's about what keyboard short cuts do or not
[23:29] <ogonotron> yes
[23:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, I am Ubuntu tablet, so Unity 8 as well,  no clickable links in  IRC chat, but can copy and paste
[23:29] <ogonotron> well a few other things but one issue at a time
[23:29] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: Doing good, It is all a process of learning . OK. we have a working termbin relay . Next up is to look at your sources . Pastebin : ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ' and ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, so if you want me to see image,  put link again, can't scroll up that easilly
[23:30] <ogonotron> http://pasteboard.co/1uZSVtDvA.png
[23:31] <ogonotron> take a look pls, I'll brb in 5
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, yes what it says there
[23:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, there's like activites with programs open,  there will be a shortcut to go    through
[23:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I think
[23:32] <snowcatman> command pastebin not found
[23:33] <OerHeks> for unity it is not logical to have 2 instances of 1 application open. alt tab changes application, not application-instance
[23:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ogonotron, just play with shortcuts and see what do, can also change to own
[23:34] <snowcatman> Bashing-om command pastebin not found
[23:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> OerHeks, no no he's using GNOME 3
[23:34] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999 ' should be priductive :)
[23:34] <Bashing-om> productive*
[23:34] <snowcatman> ok
[23:37] <sruli> ogonotron: for me the it works fine, however CTRL+TAB shows applications + windows of current application
[23:38] <ogonotron> but ctrl tab should only show the same app only
[23:38] <ogonotron> not other apps
[23:38] <snowcatman> Bashing-om http://termbin.com/ohjf
[23:40] <FishPencil> How can I find my IPv6 gateway?
[23:41] <sruli> ogonotron: it doesnt specify "this app" hoever, although it shows a preview of the rest of the apps (like ALT+TAB) it only allows switching of the current app
[23:43] <johnflux> Hi all.
[23:43] <johnflux> I can't boot up - the screen is black
[23:43] <johnflux> I have an nvidia gtx 980ti.    I /think/ the problem is to do with secureboot
[23:43] <sruli> johnflux: at which point does it turn black?
[23:44] <ogonotron> ok im gonna try a reboot brb
[23:44] <johnflux> sruli: I see the ubuntu logo, and then it turns black when X launches
[23:44] <sruli> johnflux: did you try setting nomodset in grub?
[23:44] <johnflux> In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I get:     xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
[23:45] <johnflux> sruli: nomodeset  you mean, right?   yes.  I get the above error when I do^^
[23:47] <sruli> johnflux: did you try disbaling secureboot? although i would think its more eufi than secure boot related
[23:48] <gp> tomreyn: looks like the problem with the brother supplied files is they install 32bit executables that can't run on a 64bit host. took me a long time to track down the actual cause of the random error messages... trying to throw together a 32bit docker container to see if the drivers actually work
[23:49] <johnflux> sruli: i'm not sure i can disable fastboot
[23:49] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: Some small problems - in the future - with your sources.list file, We can work with it as is for now . Next is ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[23:49] <gp> source code comes with no instructions so if the 32bit version works I guess I can try to figure out the source and compile it myself
[23:49] <sruli> johnflux: i was refering to "secureboot" not "fastboot"
[23:49] <ogonotron> ok no luck lol
[23:50] <ogonotron> anyone wanna here about my other bug?
[23:50] <sruli> ogonotron: lets hear it
[23:50] <ogonotron> on the "dash" bar (i think its called)
[23:50] <ogonotron> middle click to open a new app instance right?
[23:50] <ogonotron> left vertical bar
[23:51] <johnflux> sruli: sorry, I meant that.  The "Secure Boot state" option in the bios is grayed out
[23:51] <sruli> johnflux: that means its disbaled, i guess if its disabled you are nbooting in legacy mode?
[23:52] <sruli> ogonotron: you mean clicking on "activities" ?
[23:52] <ogonotron> yeah
[23:52] <ogonotron> favourites
[23:52] <sruli> ogonotron: for me it wirks with middle andleft click
[23:52] <ogonotron> if i middle click firefox icon it makes a new ff right?
[23:53] <ogonotron> yes but left click selects already open, middle opens new
[23:53] <johnflux> sruli: no, it's grayed out but enabled.
[23:53] <sruli> ogonotron: correct
[23:53] <ogonotron> well just wasnt working for nautilus is all
[23:53] <sruli> johnflux: how can that be? who is forcing you to use secureboot? what pc is this?
[23:54] <ogonotron> it was crashing, making a bug report
[23:54] <snowcatman> Bashing-om connot open no such directory or file it says try using netcat
[23:54] <sruli> ogonotron: works for me.. can you find anything in the details of the bug report?
[23:54] <johnflux> sruli: it's an ASUS motherboard
[23:55] <ogonotron> how do i see old reports?
[23:55] <sruli> johnflux: model?
[23:55] <sruli> ogonotron: dont know, try it again and get new one
[23:56] <sruli> johnflux: is it a custom build or a branded PC?
[23:57] <johnflux> sruli: custom build
[23:57] <sruli> johnflux: motherboard model
[23:57] <johnflux> sruli: okay, I tried deleting all the secure boot keys, which seems to let me disable it:  http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2225322/asus-uefi-boot-utility-secure-boot.html
[23:58] <johnflux> sruli: I forget the motherboard name, and it doesn't tell me :-)
[23:58] <ogonotron> all it says is: GtkListBox with a model will ignore sort and filter functions
[23:58] <ogonotron> int he logs, it sotpped generating a report
[23:59] <sruli> johnflux: now that you managed to disable it can you boot?
[23:59] <Bashing-om> snowcatman: Try again .. works for me : http://termbin.com/u1aq , is my result .
[23:59] <ogonotron> doesnt matter