[00:46] <studio-user178> help
[00:47] <studio-user178> bye then
[00:47] <studio-user178> no one is here
[03:48] <idosedthekoolaid> howdae
[08:47] <studio-user054> hello
[11:57] <strk> hi there, I'm about to try installing ubuntustudio on an old laptop - first question: will I be guided toward partitioning of disk to keep the current OS as a boot option ?
[11:58] <strk> as I'm not the laptop owner, and the owner asked me not to wipe out her OS...
[11:58] <cfhowlett> strk, "install ubuntu next to windows" should appear.  if it doesn't, consider your options.
[12:09] <strk> thanks, we'll see :)
[12:10] <strk> what do you suggest to use for multi-track live recording ?
[12:10] <strk> music recording, that is
[12:11] <cfhowlett> strk, ardour seems to the best bet but not my area of speciality.  !opensourcemusicans would know better
[12:22] <strk> what's that !prefix ? a gnusocial group ? :)
[12:23] <cfhowlett> strk, irc channel.  sorry.  should be #opensourcemusicians
[14:42] <OvenWerks> strk: Ardour is a full DAW, it is great for recording audio and midi inputs inputs. Qtractor is a tracker if you are used to that kind of thing. LMMS tries to be fruity loops like, but is midi in only.
[14:54] <strk> thanks OvenWerks, Ardour seem to be what we're looking for then
[14:56] <OvenWerks> strk: in case you care ardour hs packages for linux, OSx and windows these days. There are now enough included plugins that it is possible to use the same session file from one to the next. So a session directory created on windows should work on linux and vise versa.
[14:56] <strk> thank, that might help, in case my friend refuses to run a linux :)
[14:57] <strk> now I wonder if I should try it out on my minipc (fanless, which would be great for music :)
[14:57] <strk> Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-5005U CPU @ 2.00GHz
[14:57] <strk> Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 08)
[14:58] <strk> packaged ardour on my system (debian 8) would be Version: 1:2.8.16+git20131003+dfsg1-1~deb8u1
[14:59] <OvenWerks> There are some people who record on their desktop and then mixdown on a laptop while on a train etc. or just the oposite using a laptop to record live and mix at home.
[14:59] <OvenWerks> that sounds really old
[14:59] <strk> ardour or the audio card ?
[15:00] <OvenWerks> ardour
[15:00] <strk> debian stable...
[15:00] <OvenWerks> ardour is at 5.5
[15:00] <strk> would Ardour be used for both live recording and mixing ?
[15:00] <OvenWerks> yes
[15:01] <OvenWerks> the latest package for ubuntu 16.04 is ardour 5.0
[15:02] <OvenWerks> ardour 2.8 is before midi.
[15:02] <strk> I dont' have a midi card anyway
[15:02] <strk> was thinking about buying one, as I have an electric piano with a midi port
[15:02] <strk> an 88 keys gem
[15:03] <OvenWerks> if it has a USB port it may well show up as midi ports anyway.
[15:03] <strk>  no USB port
[15:03] <strk> (on the piano)
[15:04] <OvenWerks> I use an old AudioPCI card for midi (joy stick port)
[15:05] <strk> the piano has midi in/out, audio in/out and an headphone
[15:05] <strk> I had an old audio pci card somewhere but I guess I would not have any compatible slot by now (sooo old)
[15:05] <OvenWerks> My DX7 is the same.
[15:06] <strk> in 2009 I first attempted to put a computer near the piano
[15:06] <strk> but the fan noise convinced me it was not worth it
[15:06] <OvenWerks> :)
[15:06] <strk> now that I have this fanless pc I might try again
[15:06] <strk> only it's the home theater pc, hooked on the back of the monitor in the family room
[15:07] <strk> I'm not sure if a low-latency / realtime kernel would be stable enough for Kodi too
[15:07] <strk> I've read there could be freezes ?
[15:07] <OvenWerks> low latency wouldn't hurt
[15:08] <OvenWerks> the low latency kernel is the generic kernel with one parameter change
[15:08] <strk> so I could just configure grub to have a menu entry for that, eventually ?
[15:08] <OvenWerks> It allows preempt to work
[15:08] <OvenWerks> ubuntustudio should come that way.
[15:09] <strk> yep, but that one I'm not going to install here, uhm... unless I keep the boot time choice between the two (debian8-with-kodi / ubuntustudio)
[15:09] <strk> you mean ubuntustudio should come with the boot-time choice between realtime and not ?
[15:10] <OvenWerks> ubuntu studio comes with lowlatency, but if you install generic as well you can choose at boot time.
[15:11] <OvenWerks> The latest lowlatency is always default though.
[15:14] <strk> do you know if the debian package linux-image-rt-amd64 would also do the grub option ?
[15:15] <strk> oh well, bigger problems anyway: "Some packages could not be installed."...
[15:15] <strk> unmet dependencies: linux-image-rt-amd64 : Depends: linux-image-4.8.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64
[15:17] <strk> does ardour have it's own apt repository, btw ? to get a more recent version more easily ?
[15:24] <strk> sorry, I just realized what channel this was