[02:27] <Zren> starcraftman, the meta key => kmenu is a kwin hack.
[02:27] <Zren> Because you can have multiple launchers (eg: different screens)
[02:27] <Zren> it needs a way to detect which one you want
[02:28] <Zren> the code looks for whichever one has a global shortcut set (like Alt+f1) and actiavtes it.
[02:28] <Zren> if you want a shortcut, but don't want meta key
[02:28] <Zren> follow this: https://zren.github.io/projects/kde/#cfg-21
[02:51] <starcraftman> Zren: thanks for replying, will try this. I am dissapointed that they did not provide some more obvious toggle.
[02:52] <starcraftman> Works, Iĺl just have to save this somewhere
[02:52] <starcraftman> I use meta for pulling down yakuake, much more useful.
[02:53] <Zren> Eh, peeps have been asking for the feature for years. UI stuff is a bit more annoying to do. The meta key code was... complicated enough (I've read it).
[02:54] <Zren> The reddit thread when it was announched was pretty funny (as someone asked the same thing).
[02:55] <Zren> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/55udc1/how_do_i_stop_the_meta_key_from_opening_the/d8dwr8y/
[02:57] <starcraftman> Zren: why hardcode it with said hack? Seems poor imo. I don know the details though. Especially since they still show menu allowing you to rebind kmenu to another key.
[03:04] <Zren> Qt doesn't support it as it's treated as a modifier key.
[03:05] <Zren> Or maybe it does. Iunno.
[03:05] <Zren> Can you assign keybinding to Shift/Alt/Ctrl/Meta on windows?
[08:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:03] <espere___> Hi. Just upgraded to 16.04. I have a mousepointer when the login window shows but as soon as I log in it dissappears. mouse still active though but no pointer. any suggestions?
[10:15] <hateball> espere___: do you have a desktop otherwise?
[10:15] <hateball> with panels etc
[10:16] <hateball> that is, is only the mouse missing, or do you have nothing at all?
[10:16] <espere___> hateball: yes
[10:16] <espere___> only mouse lacks
[10:16] <espere___> the pointer
[10:16] <espere___> its active
[10:17] <espere___> right mouse button shows the menu so its active
[10:17] <hateball> espere___: were you using a custom theme that is no longer compatible?
[10:17] <hateball> espere___: what did you upgrade from?
[10:17] <espere___> I tried adding a new user but that had the same result
[10:17] <hateball> ah
[10:18] <hateball> espere___: well I'll suggest the standard thing first, since 16.04 by default is quite... broken
[10:18] <hateball> espere___: and that is to use the backports ppa
[10:18] <hateball> espere___: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[10:18] <hateball> reboot once done, see how things play out
[10:49] <bembel> hi everyone
[10:49] <bembel> how are touchscreens working with kubuntu?
[10:50] <bembel> thinking about buying an acer aspire switch
[10:52] <bembel> is there anyone reading this?
[10:54] <bembel> how are touchscreens working with kubuntu?
[11:02] <soee_> bembel: i think this is more question about how Plasma works with touchscreens
[11:02] <soee_> you might ask on #plasma
[11:02] <espere___> hateball: looks very different but still no pointer
[11:07] <i337> Anyone know how to get lxdream working on kubuntu?
[11:07] <i337> Been trying but having no success
[11:08] <i337> I tried building the mercurial version but had no luck. Tried building from source and same error
[11:09] <i337> "configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old." yada yada
[11:09] <i337> If anyone can get this working and tell me how to do it I'd appreciate it
[11:09] <i337> Here's the link btw: http://www.lxdream.org/download.php
[11:09] <i337> I don't care if it's the dev version or the last stable release
[11:34] <hateball> espere___: hmmm
[11:36] <hateball> espere___: have you used gnome on the same machine?
[11:38] <hateball> espere___: and what GPU/driver do you use? try turning off effects temporarily with shift+alt+f12
[11:43] <espere___> hateball: I dont recall.
[11:43] <espere___> I use noveau atm I think. lemme check
[11:43] <espere___> shift-alt-f12 : I dont see anything happening
[11:45] <espere___> hateball: yes Xorg.0.log full with NOUVEAU
[11:47] <espere___> hateball: it seems that shift-alt-f12 does something: moving the mouse top left gives different result
[11:49] <hateball> espere___: it toggles compositing
[11:49] <hateball> espere___: so what GPU do you have? "lspci"
[11:49] <hateball> espere___: and do you have ideological reasons for using nouveau over nvidia blob? :p
[11:59] <espere___> hateball: I see 22 entries: 92000M GS and 9400M G
[12:00] <espere___> I thought that since I need to use old drivers by now Nouveau might be more reasonable and break less
[12:01] <hateball> I cant say, I dont have anything stuck on 340
[12:02] <hateball> espere___: but it's easy enough to try, see if it helps your issues
[12:15] <espere___> hateball: seems to work.. grrrrrr. thx a lot for helpin
[12:17] <hateball> espere___: works with nvidia blob?
[12:17] <hateball> espere___: you could file a bug against... I dunno what really :D
[12:18] <hateball> I mean nouveau is in the kernel, but the bug is apparent in plasma
[12:30] <i337> what's the shortcut to lock the screen?
[12:30] <i337> on windows is windows key + l
[12:30] <i337> pls
[12:31] <hateball> I have ctrl+alt+L but I cant recall if I set that myself
[12:31] <i337> hateball: that did it
[12:31] <i337> cheers
[12:34] <espere___> hateball: where/what to file then?
[12:34] <hateball> !bug
[12:35] <espere___> display bugs are a mess I suppose. net able to use my displays for 2 years now. big waste :-)
[12:35] <espere___> not
[12:35] <hateball> espere___: Suppose I'd file a bug against plasma (any part) and detail that you have missing cursor when using nouveau. Also mention you're using kubuntu ppa so plasma 5.8.4
[12:35] <hateball> espere___: what do you mean not able to use your displays?
[12:36] <espere___> I used to have more displays connected. but there seems to be a bug that thats not working anymore
[12:37] <hateball> espere___: multimonitor is fickle currently, but it should work. use nvidia-settings to configure them if you are using the nvidia blob
[12:38] <hateball> less broken multimonitor support is one reason to use the PPA as well, since many bugs have been fixed in 5.8.x
[12:39] <espere___> hateball: u sure it is fixed? I was using 4 monitors with cinerama and twinview iirc
[13:04] <hateball> espere___: oh I dont use more than 2 monitors so I cant say
[13:04] <hateball> well 2 + laptop
[13:22] <esperegu> hateball: I'll give multimonitor a try then. You suggest to update to backports?
[13:23] <viewer|85125> Good morning, just want to know if 16.10 is stable and recommended...?
[13:25] <rllavona_> morning, is 16.10 good?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:34] <soee> rllavona_: yes
[13:35] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[13:39] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[13:49] <rllavona_> soee thanks
[13:59] <esperegu> hateball: still does not seem to work
[14:15] <esperegu> hateball: it seems to function but then suddenly the sceen turns black. than after a while it comes back and I can move the mouse pointer but nothing responds. (afk for a bit)
[14:18] <Guest32592> Brazil
[14:28] <hateball> esperegu: sorry as I said I only use 2 monitors, and that's on Intel. My nvidia machine has a more recent gpu/driver also, and only one monitor
[14:28] <hateball> esperegu: so many parameters it's hard to know what goes wrong
[14:29] <hateball> esperegu: oh you may also like to wipe your kscreen configs and reboot, to get those freshly generated
[15:22] <esperegu> hateball: how is that done?
[15:23] <esperegu> hateball: I also just noticed (since it gets darker here) that after this upgrade on my laptop my keyboard lights do not work anymore :-)
[15:24] <esperegu> hateball: ha. that seemed to be a key combo ;-)
[15:25] <hateball> esperegu: do what? wipe kscreen?
[15:25] <esperegu> yes
[15:25] <hateball> esperegu: each monitor has a file config in ~/.local/share/kscreen
[15:26] <hateball> esperegu: so you just need to move/delete them and restart the session and things should autodetect again. after that if things arent magically just working, use nvidia-settings to config the monitors
[15:27] <esperegu> hateball: I have a xorg.conf that I use for the setup
[15:27] <esperegu> hateball: don't think I was able to get it working with the nvidia-settings
[15:27] <hateball> esperegu: I see
[15:28] <hateball> then I dont really know, as I said I dont use multimonitor with nvidia
[15:28] <hateball> intel "just works"
[15:29] <esperegu> hateball: I tried it with intel but that never worked properly.... (I had to use intel _and_ nvidia for multiple so I ended up with 2 nvidia cards)
[15:30] <TBotNik> All: Having mouse pointer problem. Working from phone. Writeup at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5647200#post5647200
[15:32] <TBotNik> Running ver 14.04
[15:32] <TBotNik> Hello?
[15:38] <soee> Kubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:38] <soee> so you have KDE4 as a desktop environment right?
[15:41] <soee> TBotNik: ^
[16:13] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: Having mouse pointer problem. Working from phone. Writeup at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5647200#post5647200 Running kubuntu 14.04 lts
[16:18] <TBotNik> Can anyone help me with my cursor problem?
[16:38] <TBotNik> Repeating: Can anyone help me with my cursor problem?
[16:46] <ayolibro> hi. i'm am installing kubuntu 16.10 right now (dualboot with windows 10). the installer asks me where i want to install the bootloader, but i don't really know what to choose. these are my partitions: https://paste.kde.org/pivktlf9e
[16:48] <ayolibro> it gives me the options /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda4, /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6.
[16:50] <ayolibro> oh and i am installing on uefi (if this is important)
[16:55] <yotux> With uefi I am not sure
[16:56] <yotux> Normally I have used used /dev/sda  as that is the boot sector of the first disk
[16:56] <yotux> ayolibro: where are you installing kubuntu
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ayolibro, i thought grub was supposed to be installed to the efi partition..but I'm not toyally sure ..ask in #ubuntu, there uEFI experts there
[16:57] <ahoneybun> ayolibro: if you have a efi partion from Windows I believe that you need to install the bootloader there
[16:57] <ayolibro> When I installed Win 10 I left free space for Kubuntu. Now I have created two partitions for Kubuntu (home and /) on this free space.
[16:57] <ahoneybun> older BIOS would be /dev/sda
[16:58] <BluesKaj> he has a UEFI system
[16:58] <ahoneybun> yea GRUB would handle the uefi booting of Win 10 and Kubuntu
[16:59] <yotux> It does in my case I just don't recall were I installed the boot loader
[17:00] <ahoneybun> I'm not dual booting atm but
[17:00] <ahoneybun>  /boot/efi
[17:00] <ahoneybun>  /
[17:00] <ahoneybun>  /home
[17:00] <ahoneybun> and swap is how I have my uefi laptop setup
[17:02] <yotux> ahoneybun, I'm not sure why I still have dual boot I have VM images for most of my windows needs.....
[17:02] <yotux> Silly Garmin devices.....
[17:03] <ayolibro> So I should install the bootloader to /dev/sda2? (It is the efi partition)
[17:05] <yotux> ayolibro,  I think some one said early there may be a uefi expert in #ubuntu
[17:05] <ayolibro> I already asked in ubuntu, but no one answered. Should I ask again?
[17:06] <yotux> I asked also am awaiting a response
[17:06] <ahoneybun> ayolibro: if /dev/sda2 is the efi then yes
[17:06] <ahoneybun> just have everything backup in case
[17:07] <yotux> ayolibro: It seems  a user is agreeing with what you stated, as always have a backup.....
[17:08] <ayolibro> I have a backup of everything. ^^
[17:08] <ayolibro> Thank you all for helping me!
[17:09] <yotux> We try when we can good luck and enjoy :)
[17:32] <ayolibro> yotux, everything works perfectly, I can start both Win 10 and Kubuntu. Thanks again!
[18:04] <primenumber> hello everybody
[18:48] <Karkoon> Hi. I have installed 16.10 and I think that my nvidia GPU isn't being used. I've tried gpu-manager and it says that noveau is being skipped and at the end it decides on i915 (so Intel card?).  Here's the output of gpu-manager. http://pastebin.com/4v0ekB0W
[19:45] <TBotNik> Did anyone figure ou my cursor problem, I posted earlier? Written up @ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/loose-the-cursor-pointer-4175596283/. You can see what ive been through!
[19:47] <TBotNik> No tty, always must reboot locks into this "no cursor" mode at boot now! Cmd i ran made it worse!
[20:08] <TBotNik> No tty, always must reboot locks into this "no cursor" mode at boot now! Cmd i ran made it worse!
[20:13] <[Relic]> what was the display manager for 14.04?
[20:19] <mparillo> [Relic]: It has been a while, but it was LightDM, IIRC.
[20:20] <[Relic]> suppose that don't work well with plasma 5.8?
[20:24] <TBotNik> Can I get some help?
[20:29] <[Relic]> no clue, is it a phpmyadmin configuration problem?
[20:48] <TBotNik> Since no one has a patch/work around for the cursor problem, running ver upgrade from recovery mode root cmd line. Had to 1st enable networking, 2nd run mounts to get all in rw mode, 3rd issue the didt-upgrade cmd!