[01:57] <jack> hey can you use wine with steam games?
[02:04] <Artemis3> jack, yes but, windows steam.
[02:04] <jack> windows steam?
[02:04] <Artemis3> wine steam.exe etc.
[02:05] <Artemis3> im actually playing a game in wine that is also in steam, but don't bother launching it from steam because of that xD
[02:05] <Artemis3> tho i never tried messing with the launch command
[02:06] <Artemis3> ah well
[02:06] <jack> do online features still work?
[02:06] <jack> i have never used wine before
[02:07] <Artemis3> wine depends on game
[02:07] <Artemis3> which game it is?
[02:08] <jack> serious sam classic one and two
[02:08] <jack> there kind of old
[02:09] <jack> like 2003 around there
[02:11] <Artemis3> 1 is gold and 2 is platinum, should run fine
[02:12] <jack> I looked in the ubuntu software store i dont see some thing just called wine
[02:12] <Artemis3> for wine compatibility check https://appdb.winehq.org/
[02:12] <jack> wine tricks and play on linux?
[02:13] <Artemis3> playonlinux is wine with a frontend for easy use
[02:13] <Artemis3> install that if you want
[02:15] <jack> alright so i dont need winetricks?
[02:15] <Artemis3> probably not with playonlinux
[02:16] <Artemis3> i use it because i don't use that frontend
[02:16] <Artemis3> in any case the one bundled in the software center would be too old anyway
[02:17] <jack> so dont get the play on Linux from the software center?
[02:32] <Artemis3> jack, try it.
[02:32] <jack> I will latter have to download them from steam
[02:33] <jack> thanks for your help later*
[03:35] <tyler> Hello
[09:32] <sairam> hi
[10:25] <nikunj_> I am a linux newbie. I want to prepare my linux for coding. What do i do first
[10:30] <Akuli> nikunj_, which programming language do you want to write?
[10:31] <Akuli> or are you just getting started with this idea of writing your own programs? :)
[10:31] <nikunj_> I'm acquainted with C, C++, SQL and would start with python this semester
[10:31] <Akuli> ok
[10:32] <Akuli> obviously the first thing to get is an editor
[10:32] <nikunj_> Yea, which one do you suggest?
[10:32] <Akuli> you will probably like geany if you like notepad++
[10:32] <Akuli> i would start with that
[10:32] <nikunj_> Geany, ok
[10:33] <Akuli> of course, your choice of editor is a very personal thing and geany is definitely not the only right choice :)
[10:33] <nikunj_> Anything to start with Akuli, right
[10:33] <nikunj_> ?
[10:33] <Akuli> then you also need python, you already have it installed, just run python3 on the terminal
[10:33] <nikunj_> Ahh, okay
[10:33] <nikunj_> SQL needs a server
[10:34] <Akuli> i have no experience with it yet
[10:34] <nikunj_> Okay!
[10:34] <nikunj_> Anything else i should do for the same, Akuli
[10:34] <nikunj_> ?
[10:34] <Akuli> now if you're using geany with python you'll first feel like it's kind of weird, but you just need to change some settings and its great https://github.com/Akuli/python-tutorial/blob/master/editor-setup.md
[10:35] <nikunj_> Oh well let me save this link for later purposes
[10:35] <Akuli> ok :)
[10:35] <Akuli> that's a part of my python tutorial, feel free to read the rest if you like it :)
[10:36] <nikunj_> Thank you so much
[10:36] <Akuli> after setting up the editor you should be ready to go :) you can just write a python program in geany and run that with f5
[10:36] <nikunj_> ok
[10:39] <nikunj_> Thanx for your help
[10:39] <Akuli> no problem :)
[14:40] <ubuntu-mate> hay
[14:40] <ubuntu-mate>  hi
[14:40] <ubuntu-mate> any body here
[14:47] <randall> nope, just the voices in your head and the phantoms in your closet
[17:42] <Atman> hello fellas
[17:42] <Atman> just installed ubuntu mate
[17:42] <Atman> i am one of you now
[17:43] <Atman> :D
[17:50] <Akuli> hi :)
[17:53] <Atman> anyone managed to install spyder3 on ubuntu mate 16.10?
[17:54] <Akuli> i don't like full-featured ide's, geany is enough for everything i do
[17:55] <Akuli> that said, shouldn't it be just an apt-get install?
[17:56] <Akuli> run sudo apt-get install spyder3 on a terminal, and you should have it :)
[18:10] <Akuli> Atman, still here?
[18:15] <jack-the_ripper> I cant get my turtle beaches to work any one know how to help?
[18:17] <Atman> yes
[18:17] <Atman> Akuli: yes
[18:17] <Akuli> ok, did apt-get work?
[18:17] <jack-the_ripper> nvm got it working
[18:18] <Atman> no, i tried many different things..the developers on git said it is a current ubuntu issue..so i have to wait
[18:18] <Atman> i use gedit to write and a terminal to execute python code..works very fine too
[18:18] <Atman> maybe even better than spyder
[18:18] <Akuli> yes, it is :)
[18:19] <Akuli> running things the terminal way is handy especially when you're writing a command-line interface with e.g. argparse
[18:19] <jack-the_ripper> when i go to play the game it does not work?
[18:20] <jack-the_ripper> every time i close the sound menu it changes the setting back xD
[18:20] <jack-the_ripper> ??
[18:21] <Akuli> are you running it under wine?
[18:21] <jack-the_ripper> no
[18:21] <Akuli> then i have no idea what's wrong with it :(
[18:21] <jack-the_ripper> its a steam game built for linux
[18:21] <jack-the_ripper> damn
[18:22] <jack-the_ripper> every time i close the sound menu it changes back to my other sound device
[18:22] <Akuli> you could ask on #steamlug
[18:22] <Akuli> or #ubuntu-steam, but there's only 26 users on that channel
[18:23] <jack-the_ripper> the sound works it just stops working when i close the sound menu it changes back
[18:23] <jack-the_ripper> to my built in device
[18:25] <Atman> what game?
 I cant get my turtle beaches to work any one know how to help?
[19:46] <owner_> sleepy
[21:42] <campy> is there a way to manually update something... like sudo apt-get update this thing specifically ?
[21:44] <campy> pretty broad question for the internet so i thought there might be someone on here
[21:45] <campy> guessing no one is alive
[21:47] <campy> thanks tho
[22:02] <Atman> ubuntu 16.10 seems to be pretty crappy
[22:02] <Atman> installed it yesterday
[22:02] <Atman> spyder3 doesnt work
[22:02] <Atman> most games from playonlinux do not work
[22:03] <Atman> the 14. and 15. versions mastered these software pretty well