/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/12/29/#ubuntu-mate.txt

=== darren is now known as Guest40535
PeOMG_GEAs i boot up my ubuntu-mate i see the grub-menu (mate style) http://picpaste.com/pic1-0M9gxI1c.jpg. Ten seconds later it's overlayed by a dark rectangle for another 10 seconds. http://picpaste.com/pic2-XShv8SzZ.jpg. After that the normal boot goes on (with fschk or what ever). How can i get rid of this dark screen, or make it fullscreen?11:46
b0neyhey guys13:30
b0neywhat are advantages in using mate over xfce? are there any disadvantages compared to xfce?13:31
b0neyI like xubuntu a lot but I also like ubuntu-mate13:31
zack_hay14:49
zack_hi14:52
Akulihi14:52
zack_hay14:54
atZrRarhello14:55
zack_bored14:56
atZrRarno14:57
zack_i am14:57
atZrRarokay14:57
zack_kk14:58
mate|48837Hi!17:22
mate|48837can anyone recommend an irc application for me? I just installed ubuntu mate on my macbook... i can use this browser based one, but if theres an app i can get from the software boutique that would be great17:22
Akulimate|48837, doesn't your ubuntu mate come with hexchat?17:23
mate|48837it could! i ahve no idea what that is17:23
mate|48837i will search for it17:23
mate|48837this is my first linux experience17:23
Akuliok :)17:23
Akulihexchat is an irc client i used for a couple years, worked great mostly17:23
mate|48837got it!17:24
simkoit works!17:24
mate|48837^me on hexchat17:24
mate|48837ok, im closing the browser version17:25
Akuliok, nice :)17:25
simkohonestly, im so new at this anything minor like this is a major achievement17:25
simkoAkuli, you just made my day17:25
Akuliyes, it feels like that when you're getting started :)17:25
Akulitake your time with things, no hurry :)17:25
Akuliif you like using irc there's plenty of other channels you might like on irc17:25
simkois there a channel for rookie ubuntu mate help?17:26
Akulirookie?17:26
simkonewbie17:27
simkosomeone brand new17:27
Akuliyou can ask here all kinds of questions, including beginner questions :)17:28
simkoI think for now i have a general question, then one very, very specific one17:29
simkoI put mate on my macbook, every time the screen dims or computer goes to hibernate when i start using the computer again the keyboard brightness is very bright17:30
simkoi was wondering if there is a way to stop that17:30
ouroumovsimko, that doesn't ring a bell17:58
ouroumovsimko, maybe you can ask on our forums though, you're not the first one to try on macbook17:58
Akulisimko, there's power settings somewhere17:59
Akuliseems to be system -> settings -> screensaver17:59
simkoi will look into it18:00
simkowhere is the forum?18:00
simkoi have to get off chat in a few minutes, but would like to search the forum18:00
simkois it just this: https://ubuntu-mate.community/18:01
simko?18:01
Akulii think that's it18:01
simkook18:01
ouroumovyup18:01
simkogreat18:03
simkook, have to jet now18:03
simkoill be bsack later, thanks akuli for the help with the irc client18:03
simkoand thnkas ouroumov18:03
=== odroid is now known as odroid-c2
odroid-c2Help - Anyone, After installing X11VNCServer my mate-terminal closes imediately after opening.  How can I fix it?18:58
Akuliodroid-c2, before you do anything else i tell you: you can get back to the GUI world by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F718:59
odroid-c2Ok18:59
Akulinow that you know that, go to Ctrl+Alt+F1 and try to login. then come back here with Ctrl+Alt+F7 and tell me if logging in worked.19:00
Akulithe password is hidden, just like with sudo19:00
odroid-c2No, after entering the password, it cycles back to the username prompt19:01
Akuliso you can't run a shell at all... this is not nice19:01
Akuliopen pluma19:02
odroid-c2Even when I putty from a windows box, it accepts the username, password then closes window19:02
odroid-c2Open19:02
odroid-c2Pluma -> Open, What's next?19:03
Akulihmm19:04
Akuliyou probably have some software managing application installed?19:04
ArcTM_Is this the right channel to get support? I'm not really used to using IRC, sorry.19:04
AkuliArcTM_, yes19:04
odroid-c2Yes19:04
ArcTM_Ok, thanks.19:05
odroid-c2Applications -> System Tools -> Software19:05
Akulican you just remove the thing you installed and see if it helps? :)19:05
ArcTM_The installer keeps crashing when trying to install GRUB2. The roughly translated message is: "The packet grub-efi-amd64-signed couldn't be installed in /target/.19:06
AkuliArcTM_, the graphical installer?19:07
odroid-c2Ok, removed.  Did not help.  Maybe after reboot?19:07
ArcTM_I guess thats the one, yes.19:07
ArcTM_I'm on the live version with an USB Stick right now.19:07
Akuliok19:07
Akuliyou could try to install it yourself with the terminal, but i don't know if that's going to actually work19:08
Akuliif you want to try it, open a terminal and type this there:  sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed19:09
ArcTM_I'm getting the same error as in the installer here.19:10
ArcTM_The following packages have unmet dependencies:  grub-efi-amd64-signed : Depends: grub-efi-amd64 (= 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu11) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.19:10
Akulisee if you can install grub-efi-amd6419:10
ArcTM_Nope, doesn't work either.19:10
Akuliare you trying to install 16.10? if you are you might want to use 16.04 instead19:11
ArcTM_16.04.01 LTS is the one I'm trying to install right now.19:11
Akuliok19:12
Akulithen i have no idea what's wrong, maybe we should wait for flexiondotorg's opinion on this19:12
ArcTM_Ok :/19:13
ouroumovArcTM_, do you have access to any application launcher, such as synapse?19:18
ouroumovor the stuff that opens when pressing ALT+F2?19:18
Akuliouroumov, are you confusing ArcTM_ and odroid-c2?19:19
ouroumovoh19:19
ouroumovyes I was19:19
Akuli:)19:19
ouroumovsorry19:19
ArcTM_and there I thought someone had in idea what might be wrong :(19:19
ouroumovArcTM_, have you checked the .iso you downloaded prior to burning it?19:20
ouroumovArcTM_, also have you tried starting the live USB in install mode and not go through the live session?19:21
ArcTM_I have not checked the SHA, but I used the built-in error check of the usb drive19:21
ArcTM_Nope, haven't tried the second option yet. I was afraid that I might not understand it and format the wrong drive.19:22
ouroumovIt's exactly the same sequence of steps, except you choose language first19:23
ArcTM_I suppose I'll try that then. Only have this PC avaiable currently so I'll report back later if that had different results :)19:24
ouroumovSure19:24
Akulii just use torrents and let the torrent client do the hashing :)19:29
ArcTMHere I am again, the second option sadly didn't work.19:37
ArcTMSame error as before.19:37
Akulii guess odroid-c2 got his problem fixed because he's not coming back...19:37
Akulii hope19:38
ArcTMWhen I'm looking at GParted then the SWAP partition seems to be locked(?), is that normal?19:39
ouroumovYou're doing manual partitions under EFI mode?19:39
ouroumovPlease describe the partition layout you picked.19:39
ArcTMNot manual, but in UEFI mode.19:39
ouroumovhm19:40
ouroumovI must have missed part of the conversation19:41
ArcTMI didn't say much, just that thing with the package that keeps failing and that I'm trying to dual boot with two SSD's.19:41
ouroumovArcTM, so please confirm you're not doing the partition layout yourself?19:43
ArcTMI'm not.19:43
ouroumovArcTM, are you selecting "Erase disk and install" ?19:44
ArcTMouroumov, yes.19:44
ouroumovWell this is just weird19:44
ArcTMouroumov, I doubt that will help but is there an option to completly empty the disk before I can start the installer?19:46
ouroumovThe installer creates a new partition table and does a quick format of the partitions, which should have the same effect I think.19:48
ArcTMLooking at Gparted the linux-swap is mounted/locked though. Maybe that is cause of the issue?19:50
ouroumovI don't think so ArcTM19:58
ouroumovArcTM, can you tell me the exact filename of the iso you used?19:59
ArcTMI don't think I have that on my Drive anymore. I did use the Directlink from ubuntuusers.de20:00
ArcTMubuntu-mate-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso should be it, ouroumov20:01
ouroumovArcTM, I'm just throwing in the dark at this point but I recommend you download the ISO again from ubuntu-mate.org20:03
ouroumovCheck the sha, etc20:03
ArcTMI'll do that then. Gonna check back in like an hour when the download and another installation attempt are finished.20:04
ArcTMouroumov, creating a new USB Stick did help and the installation finished as intended this time. Thank you for your help :)20:50
=== razvan_ is now known as Razious
RaziousI like Ubuntu Mate :)21:44
White_LightAre there any gtk devs here? I was unable to right-click in Pluma after a while, and I noticed that strace was showing "write(2, "\n(pluma:13797): Gtk-CRITICAL **:"..., 116) = 116" - which does not occur normally for Pluma.  I attempted to attach gdb to it, but I managed to crash the process.  So far I've been unable to reproduce the issue.  Does anyone know what the error message could mean, or point me towards a GTK error22:46
White_Lightreference?22:46

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