[11:46] <PeOMG_GE> As i boot up my ubuntu-mate i see the grub-menu (mate style) http://picpaste.com/pic1-0M9gxI1c.jpg. Ten seconds later it's overlayed by a dark rectangle for another 10 seconds. http://picpaste.com/pic2-XShv8SzZ.jpg. After that the normal boot goes on (with fschk or what ever). How can i get rid of this dark screen, or make it fullscreen?
[13:30] <b0ney> hey guys
[13:31] <b0ney> what are advantages in using mate over xfce? are there any disadvantages compared to xfce?
[13:31] <b0ney> I like xubuntu a lot but I also like ubuntu-mate
[14:49] <zack_> hay
[14:52] <zack_> hi
[14:52] <Akuli> hi
[14:54] <zack_> hay
[14:55] <atZrRar> hello
[14:56] <zack_> bored
[14:57] <atZrRar> no
[14:57] <zack_> i am
[14:57] <atZrRar> okay
[14:58] <zack_> kk
[17:22] <mate|48837> Hi!
[17:22] <mate|48837> can anyone recommend an irc application for me? I just installed ubuntu mate on my macbook... i can use this browser based one, but if theres an app i can get from the software boutique that would be great
[17:23] <Akuli> mate|48837, doesn't your ubuntu mate come with hexchat?
[17:23] <mate|48837> it could! i ahve no idea what that is
[17:23] <mate|48837> i will search for it
[17:23] <mate|48837> this is my first linux experience
[17:23] <Akuli> ok :)
[17:23] <Akuli> hexchat is an irc client i used for a couple years, worked great mostly
[17:24] <mate|48837> got it!
[17:24] <simko> it works!
[17:24] <mate|48837> ^me on hexchat
[17:25] <mate|48837> ok, im closing the browser version
[17:25] <Akuli> ok, nice :)
[17:25] <simko> honestly, im so new at this anything minor like this is a major achievement
[17:25] <simko> Akuli, you just made my day
[17:25] <Akuli> yes, it feels like that when you're getting started :)
[17:25] <Akuli> take your time with things, no hurry :)
[17:25] <Akuli> if you like using irc there's plenty of other channels you might like on irc
[17:26] <simko> is there a channel for rookie ubuntu mate help?
[17:26] <Akuli> rookie?
[17:27] <simko> newbie
[17:27] <simko> someone brand new
[17:28] <Akuli> you can ask here all kinds of questions, including beginner questions :)
[17:29] <simko> I think for now i have a general question, then one very, very specific one
[17:30] <simko> I put mate on my macbook, every time the screen dims or computer goes to hibernate when i start using the computer again the keyboard brightness is very bright
[17:30] <simko> i was wondering if there is a way to stop that
[17:58] <ouroumov> simko, that doesn't ring a bell
[17:58] <ouroumov> simko, maybe you can ask on our forums though, you're not the first one to try on macbook
[17:59] <Akuli> simko, there's power settings somewhere
[17:59] <Akuli> seems to be system -> settings -> screensaver
[18:00] <simko> i will look into it
[18:00] <simko> where is the forum?
[18:00] <simko> i have to get off chat in a few minutes, but would like to search the forum
[18:01] <simko> is it just this: https://ubuntu-mate.community/
[18:01] <simko> ?
[18:01] <Akuli> i think that's it
[18:01] <simko> ok
[18:01] <ouroumov> yup
[18:03] <simko> great
[18:03] <simko> ok, have to jet now
[18:03] <simko> ill be bsack later, thanks akuli for the help with the irc client
[18:03] <simko> and thnkas ouroumov
[18:58] <odroid-c2> Help - Anyone, After installing X11VNCServer my mate-terminal closes imediately after opening.  How can I fix it?
[18:59] <Akuli> odroid-c2, before you do anything else i tell you: you can get back to the GUI world by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F7
[18:59] <odroid-c2> Ok
[19:00] <Akuli> now that you know that, go to Ctrl+Alt+F1 and try to login. then come back here with Ctrl+Alt+F7 and tell me if logging in worked.
[19:00] <Akuli> the password is hidden, just like with sudo
[19:01] <odroid-c2> No, after entering the password, it cycles back to the username prompt
[19:01] <Akuli> so you can't run a shell at all... this is not nice
[19:02] <Akuli> open pluma
[19:02] <odroid-c2> Even when I putty from a windows box, it accepts the username, password then closes window
[19:02] <odroid-c2> Open
[19:03] <odroid-c2> Pluma -> Open, What's next?
[19:04] <Akuli> hmm
[19:04] <Akuli> you probably have some software managing application installed?
[19:04] <ArcTM_> Is this the right channel to get support? I'm not really used to using IRC, sorry.
[19:04] <Akuli> ArcTM_, yes
[19:04] <odroid-c2> Yes
[19:05] <ArcTM_> Ok, thanks.
[19:05] <odroid-c2> Applications -> System Tools -> Software
[19:05] <Akuli> can you just remove the thing you installed and see if it helps? :)
[19:06] <ArcTM_> The installer keeps crashing when trying to install GRUB2. The roughly translated message is: "The packet grub-efi-amd64-signed couldn't be installed in /target/.
[19:07] <Akuli> ArcTM_, the graphical installer?
[19:07] <odroid-c2> Ok, removed.  Did not help.  Maybe after reboot?
[19:07] <ArcTM_> I guess thats the one, yes.
[19:07] <ArcTM_> I'm on the live version with an USB Stick right now.
[19:07] <Akuli> ok
[19:08] <Akuli> you could try to install it yourself with the terminal, but i don't know if that's going to actually work
[19:09] <Akuli> if you want to try it, open a terminal and type this there:  sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[19:10] <ArcTM_> I'm getting the same error as in the installer here.
[19:10] <ArcTM_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  grub-efi-amd64-signed : Depends: grub-efi-amd64 (= 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu11) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:10] <Akuli> see if you can install grub-efi-amd64
[19:10] <ArcTM_> Nope, doesn't work either.
[19:11] <Akuli> are you trying to install 16.10? if you are you might want to use 16.04 instead
[19:11] <ArcTM_> 16.04.01 LTS is the one I'm trying to install right now.
[19:12] <Akuli> ok
[19:12] <Akuli> then i have no idea what's wrong, maybe we should wait for flexiondotorg's opinion on this
[19:13] <ArcTM_> Ok :/
[19:18] <ouroumov> ArcTM_, do you have access to any application launcher, such as synapse?
[19:18] <ouroumov> or the stuff that opens when pressing ALT+F2?
[19:19] <Akuli> ouroumov, are you confusing ArcTM_ and odroid-c2?
[19:19] <ouroumov> oh
[19:19] <ouroumov> yes I was
[19:19] <Akuli> :)
[19:19] <ouroumov> sorry
[19:19] <ArcTM_> and there I thought someone had in idea what might be wrong :(
[19:20] <ouroumov> ArcTM_, have you checked the .iso you downloaded prior to burning it?
[19:21] <ouroumov> ArcTM_, also have you tried starting the live USB in install mode and not go through the live session?
[19:21] <ArcTM_> I have not checked the SHA, but I used the built-in error check of the usb drive
[19:22] <ArcTM_> Nope, haven't tried the second option yet. I was afraid that I might not understand it and format the wrong drive.
[19:23] <ouroumov> It's exactly the same sequence of steps, except you choose language first
[19:24] <ArcTM_> I suppose I'll try that then. Only have this PC avaiable currently so I'll report back later if that had different results :)
[19:24] <ouroumov> Sure
[19:29] <Akuli> i just use torrents and let the torrent client do the hashing :)
[19:37] <ArcTM> Here I am again, the second option sadly didn't work.
[19:37] <ArcTM> Same error as before.
[19:37] <Akuli> i guess odroid-c2 got his problem fixed because he's not coming back...
[19:38] <Akuli> i hope
[19:39] <ArcTM> When I'm looking at GParted then the SWAP partition seems to be locked(?), is that normal?
[19:39] <ouroumov> You're doing manual partitions under EFI mode?
[19:39] <ouroumov> Please describe the partition layout you picked.
[19:39] <ArcTM> Not manual, but in UEFI mode.
[19:40] <ouroumov> hm
[19:41] <ouroumov> I must have missed part of the conversation
[19:41] <ArcTM> I didn't say much, just that thing with the package that keeps failing and that I'm trying to dual boot with two SSD's.
[19:43] <ouroumov> ArcTM, so please confirm you're not doing the partition layout yourself?
[19:43] <ArcTM> I'm not.
[19:44] <ouroumov> ArcTM, are you selecting "Erase disk and install" ?
[19:44] <ArcTM> ouroumov, yes.
[19:44] <ouroumov> Well this is just weird
[19:46] <ArcTM> ouroumov, I doubt that will help but is there an option to completly empty the disk before I can start the installer?
[19:48] <ouroumov> The installer creates a new partition table and does a quick format of the partitions, which should have the same effect I think.
[19:50] <ArcTM> Looking at Gparted the linux-swap is mounted/locked though. Maybe that is cause of the issue?
[19:58] <ouroumov> I don't think so ArcTM
[19:59] <ouroumov> ArcTM, can you tell me the exact filename of the iso you used?
[20:00] <ArcTM> I don't think I have that on my Drive anymore. I did use the Directlink from ubuntuusers.de
[20:01] <ArcTM> ubuntu-mate-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso should be it, ouroumov
[20:03] <ouroumov> ArcTM, I'm just throwing in the dark at this point but I recommend you download the ISO again from ubuntu-mate.org
[20:03] <ouroumov> Check the sha, etc
[20:04] <ArcTM> I'll do that then. Gonna check back in like an hour when the download and another installation attempt are finished.
[20:50] <ArcTM> ouroumov, creating a new USB Stick did help and the installation finished as intended this time. Thank you for your help :)
[21:44] <Razious> I like Ubuntu Mate :)
[22:46] <White_Light> Are there any gtk devs here? I was unable to right-click in Pluma after a while, and I noticed that strace was showing "write(2, "\n(pluma:13797): Gtk-CRITICAL **:"..., 116) = 116" - which does not occur normally for Pluma.  I attempted to attach gdb to it, but I managed to crash the process.  So far I've been unable to reproduce the issue.  Does anyone know what the error message could mean, or point me towards a GTK error
[22:46] <White_Light> reference?