[02:17] <cc> Does ubuntu phone have die?
[02:27] <aiyion> got an update to v34 a few days ago.
[02:27] <aiyion> Suppose not.
[02:28] <aiyion> cc: why?
[02:30] <cc> little usful app...
[02:31] <cc> aiyion: wechat,input method
[02:31] <cc> Chinese people are more accustomed to using Sogou input method
[02:32] <cc> but ubuntu phone cant use other input method
[02:33] <cc> web wechat is very useless
[02:38] <cc> and i hope more browser
[15:04] <TartSpart> Hey has anyone used VPN Editor?
[15:18] <TartSpart> Hi
[18:34] <Lantizia> hey I keep getting "this phone needs restoring from a pc or service center"
[18:35] <Lantizia> trying to flash a nexus 10 - i've made sure it's unlocked, that I did a fresh reflash of the stock 4.4.4 first - and also that i wiped the cache and userdata area first
[18:35] <Lantizia> still no joy - any ideas?
[18:35] <Lantizia> i can put android back on it no problem - but i wanted to take a look at ubuntu
[18:38] <Lantizia> i am using channel = ubuntu-touch/stable    could that be the reason!?
[18:43] <Lantizia> i'll try loading something older than 4.4.4 on first
[19:19] <Lantizia> from what I'm reading lots of people have been having this issue lately - with barely anyone replying
[19:20] <Lantizia> so, ubuntu touch is broken - and no one cares... so I shouldn't either? move on?
[19:21] <Lantizia> although technically I'm using ubports from mariogrip
[19:21] <Lantizia> so maybe it's just that which is b0rked
[19:22] <JanC> it's also end-of-the-year holidays for many people
[19:22] <Lantizia> not for all the times people have had no replied i've read up on courtesy of google
[19:34] <Lantizia> well it seems it is just ubports - getting 'devel' from the main server seems to get further at least
[19:34] <Lantizia> even though from the main server it isn't strictly supported
[19:35] <Lantizia> i'm likely to hate this anyway
[20:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[20:21] <garybot> hey :]
[20:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, hi
[20:35] <garybot> hey Seb.. are you ubuntu dev too??
[20:37] <garybot> i want to know if touch is available for oneplustwo devices..
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, no an Ubuntu user
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> touch user etc
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, but
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I know they have been working on ports for the one plus
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, you'll want  the ubports website
[20:38] <garybot> ah nice..  :]
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> some deaisl there about ports etc, but I  have a feeling they won't work that well currently
[20:38] <garybot> i'm a desktop user lol
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or  they do and don't
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, I have three Ubuntu devices, whe nI keep not up to date though inteniotnly since thought had lost hat phone before
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> other two I keep up to date or enough up to date
[20:39] <OerHeks> OnePlus One and OnePlus X
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> one I keep  above....
[20:39] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[20:39] <garybot> i cant wait to try it on my phone but the page said it's not yet fully developed..
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, exactly tht's what i MEAN
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, not everything will work properly as far as I know
[20:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if you put on a one plus phone
[20:40] <garybot> yeah I wanted to buy one plus one but new devices are no more available..
[20:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, it's not quite the same, but can get  a bit of an idea what the tablet etc is like
[20:40] <garybot> anyway.. i got my one plus two today :]
[20:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if
[20:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you put unity 8 in the desktop ubuntu
[20:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, but then you would have to put more  snap packages yourself, and even libertine stuff in there, to make it more real :D
[20:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, for some reason online plus doens't apppeal to me enough to buy or a google pixel for that matter
[20:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> a part of me wnats to buy a second hand old nexus 5 maybe, so can play around with well various mobile oses
[20:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> without buying yet another phone :d
[20:43] <garybot> lol my sister got a nexus 5... she wont let me mess with it xD
[20:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, one plus  hardware is a bit too powrful currently for ubuntu touch,  what I mean is the os won't take full advantge of that hardware, since there isn't really anthing really powerful to run in it,  except for my wireless convergence
[20:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> except for maybe above
[20:43] <garybot> eventually she will get bored and hopefully buy a new phone so i can take it
[20:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but I have done the microsoft wireless adapater stuff with the  hd tablet, and hdmi cable way to,  it's not that impressive in reality
[20:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, how old are you and your sisteR?
[20:44] <garybot> Seb there are two of you??
[20:44] <garybot> different colour lol
[20:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> uh /
[20:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ?
[20:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, this is a high light if that's what you mean
[20:45] <garybot> i'm 22.. my sister is 20..
[20:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> one plus is a good phone
[20:45] <garybot> oh lol
[20:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nice you got that
[20:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ,but
[20:45] <garybot> xD
[20:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ubuntu touch is a bit uhmm limiting realy currently
[20:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> as in what it can and cannot run, or can and cannot run really easily
[20:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it's a good os though ;)
[20:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> grandrew, next two years things should become more exicitng, since the desktop ubuntu and phone and tablet, will all converge more, as in become more the same,
[20:46] <garybot> oh well the page for oneplus two says nothing works yet.. not even boot..
[20:46] <garybot> so maybe i will wait..
[20:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, and become ubuntu perosnal as it's called
[20:46] <garybot> i also got some old android devices..
[20:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, have you tried unity  8 on desktop ubuntu ?
[20:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> in 16.10 ?
[20:46] <garybot> like an old HTC desire and one HP tablet..
[20:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, right, but ubuntu touch only currently worsk on specific devices,  the commerical devices ideally, then a few unoffical ports to such as for one plus a
[20:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah, but it won't just work on those devices
[20:47] <garybot> but they got no releases for custom ROMs or even ubuntu yet..
[20:47] <garybot> ah well thanks for pointing that out..
[20:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, trying UNity 8 on the desktop is worth it, but bare in mind, to make that more useable, you would have to install well snaps
[20:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, quite a few people seem to think it isnt so good the 16.10 version of it
[20:48] <garybot> i was wondering if i could build touch from source for those devices..
[20:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, main noticable thing that's diffenret currently to the desktop, in a ubuntu touch device, is yep the interface unity 8
[20:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and  things installed with that
[20:49] <garybot> unity 8 you mean the Game engine??
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, what you don't know what unity is then ?
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Ubuntu Unity
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Canonical's Unity
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !unity
[20:49] <ubot5`> Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity
[20:49] <garybot> oh yeah..
[20:49] <garybot> i know..
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, by default it's the old Unity 7 interface, but
[20:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Ubuntu 16.10 also has a Unity 8 preview session installed by default, but that it seems doesn't do much by default
[20:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> unlike say when it's runing on the phone or tablet :) since other progarms installed there as well
[20:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but people can install snaps into it for more stuff anyway so
[20:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and even libertine it seems, but for desktop computer then,  not phone or tablet.  that's for running the old xorg progarms
[20:51] <garybot> ah well i will check it out.. been a while since i booted to ubuntu... I have dual boot system on my desktop..
[20:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, if you do all that,  you'll have an idea what ubuntu touch is really like currently, espeicaly if you done it on a computer with a touch screen as well :D
[20:51] <garybot> mostly i use KAli linux..
[20:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, if you want lots of difenet apps from Andordi
[20:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, or ios or something
[20:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you know common main strame apps
[20:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> well  no ubuntu touch realy isn't it currently
[20:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, Ubuntu touch can run old xorg programs, firefox., libre office, etc etc :)
[20:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or uh unity 8 on desktop even, wehn that's set up
[20:53] <garybot> well i guess i should not try it on my new one plus then lol
[20:54] <garybot> i dont need main stream apps but on my new phone i guess i might require games xD
[20:56] <Lantizia> SebthreeBQM10HD, how can I get it running regular X11 apps?  i just popped it on my nexus 10
[20:57] <Lantizia> according to "dpkg -l" x11 isn't installed... also apt-get doesn't work, claims it can't write to /var/cache/apt
[21:03] <Lantizia> ah sod it who am i fooling
[21:03] <Lantizia> ubuntu touch is hideous
[21:03]  * Lantizia reflashes android
[22:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh missed lantizia
[22:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, your stil here?
[22:12] <garybot> yea... i'm around lol :]
[22:14] <garybot> guess Lantizia was not very happy lol..
[22:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, indeed
[22:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> garybot, but its a bit limited compared to android
[22:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> still good though
[23:12] <dobey> what the heck was he even wanting to do
[23:12] <garybot> i agree... if it was not a brand new phone i would get ubuntu