[07:13] <knightwise> morning
[10:19] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[14:38] <knightwise> Morning brobostigon
[14:38] <knightwise> how are you doing
[14:39] <brobostigon> afternoon knightwise, alittle on the cold sign, my eczema could be better, and you?
[14:39] <brobostigon> side*
[16:04] <knightwise> Doing ok , looking for a simple solution to backup my files to my inlaws
[16:04] <knightwise> had google cloud storage for a year with my chromebook and that trail is running out
[16:08] <brobostigon> :) :(
[16:09] <knightwise> I have a synology nas with this private cloud dropbox like client
[16:09] <knightwise> think i'll run that on a remote machine, plop it over there and run local backups
[16:10] <knightwise> looks like the simplest solution.
[16:10] <knightwise> If I can run mate on my old netbook i'll be able to pull that off
[16:10] <brobostigon> i use owncloud on my server for that same job.
[16:10] <brobostigon> :)
[16:10] <knightwise> yeah , but I dont have a static ip
[16:11] <brobostigon> dyndns?
[16:11] <knightwise> never syncs up right, plus I would like to have as few open ports on my router as i can
[16:11] <brobostigon> ah ok, i havent ever used dyndns.
[16:16] <knightwise> I guess I also could use owncloud and some owncloud clients but since i have the synology system running anyway....
[16:16] <knightwise> and i use it quite a lot for our company
[16:17] <brobostigon> :)
[16:39] <awilkins> I have mum on Syncthing
[16:40] <awilkins> Std. Dega-dup backup to a synced folder, linked to my NAS
[16:41] <brobostigon> beer o'clock, :)
[16:42] <knightwise> awilkins: remote ?
[16:42] <awilkins> knightwise, Yup, Syncthing pretty much handles tunnel punching
[16:43] <awilkins> Haven't had to fiddle with DNS or port routing
[16:43] <awilkins> You just have to copy a big ID value from one to the other
[16:43] <knightwise> so ... files on my nas , syncthing on my home server and syncthing on my remote machine ?
[16:43] <awilkins> Syncthing where the files are
[16:44] <awilkins> Accessible anyway
[16:44] <awilkins> If your NAS is too dumb to run syncthing, run it on the sevrer
[16:44] <awilkins> Mine has a package of Syncthing (ASUSTOR)
[16:44] <knightwise> ah ok
[16:44] <knightwise> gonna see if there is one for synology
[16:45] <knightwise> there is one but its a little buggy , so i might be better off running it on my server
[16:46] <knightwise> upside is I can run in on a raspberry pi
[16:46] <awilkins> I like it. Even has an Android build, I'd use it for transferring comic files to my tablet to read.
[16:47] <knightwise> hmmm.. starting to sound more and more interesting !
[16:48] <awilkins> If I didn't have close to 10GB of files in Dropbox I'd probably just use that exclusively
[16:49] <awilkins> I had mum on Copy.com for cloud backups but they went belly-up
[16:49] <awilkins> It needs a wee taskbar applet
[16:49] <knightwise> awilkins: does it store those comics offline on your tablet ?
[16:49] <awilkins> knightwise, Yup
[16:50] <knightwise> ok , gonna give it a try
[16:50] <awilkins> Probably good for managing your music collection too
[16:50] <awilkins> I wonder how it deals with symlinks
[16:51]  * awilkins wonders if you can symlink a bunch of music into a synced folder and have it transferred to your phone
[16:51]  * knightwise *eyes twinkle*
[16:53] <awilkins> My partner works for a music college and they have to transfer audition recordings from China to their file server
[16:53] <awilkins> They always have a load of problems because of crap wifi and L-class users
[16:54] <awilkins> I said they should use this because it can resume broken connections. Dunno if it tunnels through the great firewall though.
[16:54] <awilkins> But def. easy to use
[16:55] <awilkins> Just set it up to sync a folder and say to user "Drop file in folder. File go to cloud. Ug."
[17:38] <zmoylan-pi> at least no one submits their music in word doc files i suppose... :-P
[17:47] <knightwise> I call that "cloud bouncing"
[17:47] <knightwise> allows you to do stuff offline (or on a wonky connection) and "bounce" it up to the cloud whenever you have a good connection
[18:31] <zmoylan-pi> i sometimes wish someone made a more accessible whisper net like the original kindle had... a low transfer rate, cheap, in the background network...
[18:46] <ikonia> popey: you around
[19:39] <daftykins> or asquare!
[19:40] <daftykins> evening all \o
[19:40] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[19:57]  * zmoylan-pi remembers to pack generic toblerone for tomorrows game...
[19:57] <zmoylan-pi> trapezoid instead of triangular
[19:57] <daftykins> :D
[19:58] <daftykins> i've not finished the one i acquired the other day!
[19:58] <zmoylan-pi> full tobler or tobler-lite
[19:59] <daftykins> i think it says 360g on the side and doesn't seem to have large flat sections, so i might be ok
[19:59]  * penguin42 seems to have done particularly well on the discount-chocolate acquisition this year; I've got a truly silly amount
[19:59] <zmoylan-pi> otherwise the shop will get a drive by tobleroning
[19:59] <daftykins> ah no it is a shrunk one, doesn't seem all that bad though
[20:00] <zmoylan-pi> i wouldn't mind if they had just reduced the size but to keep the same size box seems deceptive
[20:04] <daftykins> yip
[20:05] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Yeh
[20:05] <daftykins> one benefit to the gap is you have further space to push them over to have them snap cleanly :D
[20:06] <zmoylan-pi> they always snapped cleanly for me
[20:06] <zmoylan-pi> unless they were the giant ones and had been in the freezer when they sometimes needed to be bounced off furniture
[20:06] <daftykins> :>
[20:07] <daftykins> when i get a chocolate orange i roll them down the steps past the cat
[20:08]  * zmoylan-pi wonders what shapes the generic chocolate oranges come in... pineapple? :-)
[20:09] <daftykins> ask Terry
[20:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[23:02] <popey> ikonia: hello
[23:03] <popey> ikonia: also, I got a second bluetooth 8bitdo controller for xmas, so now can do two player games. Played 20 levels of 2 player Gauntlet in MAME with my 13 year old daughter :)
[23:04] <ikonia> popey: just got mine working, I thought I'd share the 50 minute shame of trying to get it to blue tooth pair and not understand why it couldn't see the device
[23:04] <popey> heh
[23:04] <ikonia> I'd plugged the SD card into my pi2 rather than pi3, so no inbuilt bluetooth, wasted 50 minutes of shame
[23:04] <popey> hahaha :D
[23:04] <popey> excellent
[23:05] <ikonia> put the sd in the pi3, 3 seconds later, 4 8bitdo controllers paired
[23:05] <ikonia> idiot
[23:05] <daftykins> XD
[23:05] <popey> 4!
[23:05] <popey> nice
[23:05] <popey> which ones did you get?
[23:05] <ikonia> 6 actually, only 4 paired
[23:05] <popey> flexiondotorg got the ones with dual analogs
[23:05] <popey> blimey
[23:06] <ikonia> got 2 x nes 30 pro, 1 x sfc, 1 x snes, and 2 of the arcade stick ones
[23:06] <popey> i have the SNES30 and SFC30 so I can tell player 1 from player 2
[23:06] <ikonia> really liked them so went in hard
[23:06] <popey> awesome
[23:06] <popey> had much time to play?
[23:06] <ikonia> playing snes games needed the snes controller, the nes 30 pro was for generic stuff and the arcade stuff for sf2 /mk etc
[23:06] <ikonia> not much to be honest, starting this week,
[23:06] <ikonia> really enjoyed what I have played though
[23:07] <ikonia> re-completed super mario world at %100
[23:07] <ikonia> that brough back my youth
[23:07] <ikonia> finally got it hooked into the main TV/sound system
[23:07] <ikonia> it's shockingly good for what it is
[23:07] <popey> Yeah
[23:07] <popey> I know flexiondotorg has done some fettling to get the nice backgrounds and old style tv effects
[23:07] <popey> I didn't do that on mine
[23:08] <ikonia> I've not got all the artwork or stuff setup yet
[23:08] <ikonia> going to sort that when I've got the game layout nice
[23:09] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Framemeister-N-XRGB-Mini-Upscaler-Unit-DP3913547-From-Japan-/181327242059
[23:09] <daftykins> those things have gone up in price like crazy
[23:10] <ikonia> good lord
[23:10] <ikonia> $800 !
[23:10] <popey> I managed to get the pi to put out the right res for the screen, so I can play R-Type on a big telly with decent sound now :)
[23:10] <popey> happy days
[23:11] <ikonia> I need to check the res on mine, I'm %99 it's right
[23:12] <daftykins> i never had a *NES
[23:12] <popey> me either
[23:13] <popey> didnt have any consoles really.
[23:13] <daftykins> i had a lot of gameboy accessories mind you :D over the top light, battery pack...
[23:13] <popey> well, we had some odd orange thing under the telly in the 1970s/80s
[23:13] <daftykins> o0
[23:13] <popey> then a game boy much later
[23:13] <daftykins> that's fruit, sir :D
[23:13] <popey> lemme find a pic, it's mad
[23:13] <ikonia> daftykins: I remember all those gameboy things, I had them, the magnigier, etc
[23:14] <ikonia> battery pack
[23:14] <daftykins> :D
[23:14] <popey> http://www.old-computers.com/Museum/computer.asp?st=3&c=933
[23:14] <popey> that kind of thing
[23:14] <daftykins> i think you stole that from Blake's 7, popey :>
[23:14] <popey> http://www.playerschoicegames.com/hanimex7771.JPG
[23:14] <popey> haha
[23:15] <popey> it had 4 games, Tennis, Doubles, squash and .. practice i think
[23:15] <popey> like pong at home
[23:15] <popey> was bloody awful, but all we had in 1980 or so
[23:16] <daftykins> :>
[23:16] <zmoylan-pi> had one of those in late 70s, one with a gun though
[23:16] <popey> get you!
[23:17] <popey> I found a boxed one on ebay a while back and was tempted
[23:17] <popey> force the kids to play it as punishment
[23:18] <zmoylan-pi> *pew* *pew* *pew* http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/9dc26b84742f00841a40244d3c3241bf-650-80.jpg
[23:18] <daftykins> "Dad we're gaming but we're not even remotely having fun!"
[23:19] <daftykins> "how long must we do this? ;_; "
[23:19] <zmoylan-pi> they were incredible fun as long as you had a human opponent.  one player it was very boring
[23:19] <zmoylan-pi> humans are sneaky
[23:19] <daftykins> damn them!
[23:19] <popey> I recently played Nemesis (classic shoot em up) in MAME, and it has a warm up for 40 seconds before it starts, Sam said "did games really do this when you were young!?" I said yes, and he said "I feel sorry for you"
[23:20] <popey> zmoylan-pi: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/binatone-tv-master-4-plus-2-and-gun-/322373820593?hash=item4b0efa20b1:g:yKgAAOSwB09YFiMs
[23:20] <popey> re-live the.. uh.. magic
[23:20] <daftykins> warm up? like it goes easy on you?
[23:20] <zmoylan-pi> we waited 5 minutes to load games in my day and we glad of it!!! (gave me time to do my homework :-P )
[23:21] <daftykins> haha
[23:21] <zmoylan-pi> that binatone is the exact make and model... thank you popey
[23:22] <popey> :)
[23:22] <popey> heh
[23:22]  * daftykins does the wobbly lines to let zmoylan-pi have a flashback
[23:22] <zmoylan-pi> to make it harder i used to use a mirror on wall opposite to tv...
[23:22] <popey> no, warmup as in the physical components need to warm up
[23:22] <popey> like valves
[23:22] <daftykins> ooooh i see
[23:22] <ikonia> perfect timing, bluetooth just broke on all my 8bitdo devices
[23:22] <ikonia> it's just lost all the devices
[23:22] <popey> odd
[23:22] <popey> reboot?
[23:22] <daftykins> ikonia: now Christmas really begins
[23:23] <ikonia> just dont it
[23:23] <ikonia> daftykins: just sat down to really enjoy it
[23:23] <ikonia> popey: nah, reboot did nothing, can't even see them at the OS level, I'll investigate
[23:23] <popey> :S
[23:23] <ikonia> comedy gold, after claiming sucess
[23:23] <popey> yeah, sorry about that :D
[23:24] <ikonia> comedy gold, after claiming sucess
[23:24] <ikonia> oops
[23:24] <daftykins> nah it was worth saying twice
[23:24] <ikonia> sorry, buffer there
[23:33] <daftykins> i just discovered that there's a leak on the sealant around my shower tray, so my shower has been running through the floorboards and onto the ceiling below, then onto the floor there
[23:33] <daftykins> kinda wished it was the soil pipe leaking so i could go the insurance route
[23:36] <daftykins> i'm told you get blamed for the lack of maintenance if it's just sealant leaking, so you can't try insurance :<
[23:38] <penguin42> actually it can be really hard to find the leak; we spent a few months trying to stop mine leaking
[23:39] <daftykins> oof
[23:40] <daftykins> ah well i can see a black line where the tray meets the tile, the shower head was spraying onto there so i saw the drip drip... then i ran it again and aimed it away closer to the door, no drip drip
[23:43] <daftykins> could really do with redoing that room
[23:48] <zmoylan-pi> or install a sonic shower to eliminate leaks... :-P
[23:50] <daftykins> ^_^
[23:52] <zmoylan-pi> inventor of kinder suprise dies...
[23:53] <penguin42> was that a surprise?
[23:53] <daftykins> heart attack on receiving own invention for Christmas?
[23:55] <zmoylan-pi> he also helped invention of ferrero rocher so i hope a few ambassadors attend the funeral... :-P
[23:56] <daftykins> only the really badly dubbed ones!
[23:57] <zmoylan-pi> the toys used to be great in the 80s with pull back motors and tiny meccano sets but current ones are awful