nouckeyi'm trying to narrowing the problem down, or at least treat one at a time : startx doesn't work, and I don't know what Xorg is but it doesn't look very happy with me rn00:02
nouckeyI googled "waiting for xserver to shut down error setting MTRR" but it probably wasn't helpful since here we are again00:03
Apachezhappy new year! http://i.imgur.com/VCVMaTx.jpg00:23
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ChunkzZNot new year here yet Apachez00:34
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nouckeyok that's an easy one : which version of ubuntu should i download if i've got cheap hardware ? where can i find it ? (i can only find ubuntu 16 on ubuntu.com and it doesn't seem the best idea)00:42
kk4ewtdefine cheap hardware00:43
ChunkzZnouckey: lubuntu00:43
nedstarkor xubuntu or ubuntu mate00:43
ChunkzZOr wattos based on Ubuntu00:44
ChunkzZThere's loads00:44
Exterminadorhello guys. i have a small problem. i dont have enough space on my vps to make a backup. can i do it remotely via command line? i'm using Xubuntu 16.0400:46
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nedstarkExterminador, this explains some ways http://askubuntu.com/questions/166142/how-would-you-go-about-backing-up-a-remote-ubuntu-vps-via-ssh00:50
nouckeywell an emachines that I got 5 years ago and came with linpus on it. AMD / NVIDIA. (not a laptop)00:51
nedstarknouckey, how much ram and what processor00:55
nedstarka 5 year old machine should be fine running ubuntu mate, xubuntu, or lubuntu00:55
Exterminadormy laptop is 6y old and runs smooth with Xubuntu. 2Gb ram, dual-core 2.10Ghz cpu00:56
nedstarkthat will run any of those 3 fine, probably run gnome ok but slow00:57
nedstarkmainly the ram00:57
onthelineeverybody ready for the Y2017 bug?00:58
onthelinebackups to /dev/null and that sorts of things...01:00
nedstarkthey are adding a small fraction of a second to each second in the day to create a cumulative "leap second" using long seconds01:00
nedstarkthis will prevent global catastrophe01:01
onthelinenedbat, hehehe - I heard about "atomic clocks" being used to avoid that!01:01
nedstarkexcept in the UK because people are getting alcohol intoxication and vomiting on each other regardless of the time01:02
onthelineelectrons come to bits and bits come to /dev/null - cya guys have a happy new year01:07
Gaming4JCHi guys, does anyone know a player that supports DVD subtitles? Seems most of them require downloading subtitles seperately, which is strange considering they are already on the DVD!01:11
Gaming4JCor maybe there is some program to "convert" subtitles from the dvd to a subtitle file01:12
Ben64Gaming4JC: mplayer2 and mpv should01:15
nouckeymaybe if I go to bed everything will have gone back to normal tomorrow. has this ever happened ?01:22
sintrewell when my hair started thinning i hoped tht would happen every morning01:23
sintrenever changed01:23
sintrebut if your tired and all , i'd hit the sack and think about what distro you want to install01:23
nouckeyhaha. at least you had time to get used to it01:23
nouckeyi settled on ubuntu mate because i like the drink01:24
nouckeybut this computer can barely run this chat01:24
nouckeyso to create a bootable key is a challenge :)01:24
sintrewell only good thing about linux problems is once you come out the other end you always learned something01:25
nouckeymmm when this happened to me before all i remember is a creeping panic and vertigo. Everytime I have one problem it transforms into zillions of problems and I can't remember what was my first problem01:26
nouckeybut sure I'm learning to manage anger and frustration :)01:27
sintresee there we go :)01:27
DrManhattannouckey, try xanax01:33
nouckeyI don't have any, all pharmacists want to give me is plants and stuff01:34
nouckeyI think depression is a pretty natural reaction to a very sick society and to the agony of a personal computer. it's ok to feel things dr.01:36
DrManhattanIt's a chemical imbalance where your brain can't access pleasant thoughts01:37
DrManhattannot a fun way to live01:37
Guest20623hello everyone01:37
nouckeynot all the time, but there are just no pleasant thoughts to be had right now. it'll get better (not for the bees though, they are fucked)01:38
Guest20623Whats going on?01:39
nouckeybees and my computer are dying, but we'll get through it01:39
nouckeyhow about you ?01:39
jcjordyn120I am back :D01:39
Bashing-omGuest20623: Ubuntu support - pretty slow right now so not much .01:40
Guest20623is this where i can get answers for ubuntu?01:40
BlueProtomanMy file selection dialog is huuuuuge.  So huge, if I center it with the screen, it's all white.  I can't resize it, either.  I'm using Ubuntu 16.10, with MATE.  How did it get like this, and how can I fix it?01:40
nouckeyyes it is Guest20623 (not from me though)01:42
Guest20623Is there an easy way to make an ISO of my current Ubuntu setup i made, so I can install it on another computer?01:44
Ben64Guest20623: no01:46
Ben64you could make a list of the packages you have installed though01:46
Bashing-om!APTonCD | Guest2062301:46
ubottuGuest20623: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline01:46
energizerMy laptop doesnt do anything when i press the windows key. What can I do?01:49
Guest20623cool. thank you. i will check that out.01:49
energizerI want it to open the dash01:49
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Guest20623im installing ubuntu 16 amd64, is that ok to use on an intel 64 bit motherboard?01:57
BlueProtomanGuest20623: Yes, absolutely01:57
Guest20623ok, just making sure, the name was throwing me off01:57
BlueProtomanNot a problem01:58
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Guest20623i installed the 32 bit version, but im gonna try the 64bit now. Should i see a difference in performance?01:59
Guest20623I really love trying all the different versions of linux. Each one has so much to offer, i dont know which one i like best.02:01
Bashing-omGuest20623: doubtful that you will see a change in performance on just a desktop use . Bear in mind that 32 bit software is fast loosing support .02:01
BlueProtomanGuest20623: No one in this channel is going to say anything besides Ubuntu.02:01
anders__Arch is pretty good too if you want to understand everything top-down02:02
Gaming4JCBen64: Seems VLC has subtitle suppport too, but you have to turn it on from the settings using subtracks02:02
Guest20623I havent tried Arch yet02:03
Ben64yeah but vlc is terrible02:03
energizerBen64: whats the problem02:03
energizerwith vlc02:03
anders__I recommend it. It's a lot slicker than say Gentoo but it allows you to configure everything quite extensively.02:03
Ben64bad quality02:03
energizerwhat does that mean02:03
Gaming4JCconfusing interface but overall it does have a lot of cool stuff02:03
Ben64videos look worse when viewed with vlc02:04
energizerrelative to02:04
Ben64not vlc02:04
energizerneed referent02:04
rangemongertheres always manjaro if one wants an easier arch experience, too02:04
Guest20623Been playing around alot with Lubuntu02:04
Guest20623and also linux mint02:05
Gaming4JCLinux Mint keeps getting hacked so I'm not sure how much I trust it (or at least their website)02:05
rangemongerwhat gets hacked on mint?02:06
Ben64this really isn't the place to talk about other distributions02:06
rangemongeror is it just their site?02:06
nedstarktheir website had some old plugins and got hacked, but someone donated some money and fixed all that02:06
Gaming4JCrangemonger: Their main website got hacked awhile ago and a fake download link put up, and then this past week or so someone claims to have gotten root on their backend webserver (note this server does not have iso or packages)02:06
socialevilHello my unknown friends. I have a new   laptop and i wanted to install ubuntu 16.4 instead of having win10 so i downloaded the 1.4gb ubuntu.iso from the website, burned it and now when it boots, its stucked at the violete screen... I dont know whats the problem :((02:07
Guest20623Why would anyone want to hack someones website anyway. i mean, they are offering a free alternative desktop for people to use and some jerk has to mess it up!02:08
BlueProtomanGuest20623: Steal personal info, get credit cards, identity theft.  Profit!02:08
Guest20623Well someone needs to hack them back02:09
Bashing-om!nomodeset | socialevil  try:02:09
ubottusocialevil  try:: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter02:09
socialevilThank you ill look into that02:09
nedstarkthis guy got a free plane trip from miami to SF https://www.databreaches.net/florida-computer-programmer-arrested-for-hacking/02:10
BlueProtomanGuest20623: If we only know who hacked the Mint ISO servers.  Hopefully they've been brought to justice by local authorities.02:10
BlueProtomanBut this is reality, and reality is cruel, so maybe not.02:11
nedstarkthis says the hacker said he "needed $85" for the data on the mint website http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/02:12
Guest20623thats crazy02:12
Guest20623omg  im using linux mint!02:13
Guest20623(just until Ubuntu downloads) of coarse02:14
Bashing-omGuest20623: Getter Done :)02:15
nicomachusGuest20623: find a good md5sum online (verify from more than one source) and double-check your install USB if you're nervous about it. but that was awhile ago, and the download was only up for like 2 days IIRC02:16
Guest20623thanks for the info02:16
Guest20623thank you all for your help. gonna install ubuntu now,02:18
BlueProtomanI imagine that by the time he figures it out, Ubuntu will have finished downloading02:18
Guest20623yeah, its done.02:18
BlueProtomanGood luck.  If you're paranoid, don't make any purchases until you finish the install02:18
Guest20623thanks again02:18
simiowhats up pppl !02:19
BlueProtomanMy student loan debt02:20
bitchParty on #freenode-newyears02:22
simioi need a lil info bout that02:22
simiothe student loan02:22
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socialevilBashing-om it worked but now i have another problem. I am at the installation type screen, where i can choose between installing ubuntu alongside win, erase disk and something else, but nomatter what option i choose, the continue button is dark gray and i cannot continue. There is only quit and back available02:27
socialevilAnd i dont hear the disk inside my rom spinning anymore..02:29
f3ngt1ngI have installed ibus referred url http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/IBus,but I can't use ibus, when i use /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-setup-sunpinyin, the error ouccerd,referred url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23714768/02:30
f3ngt1ngany body know?02:31
mausHi, does somebody by coincidence knows about the blanking screen bug in Natty ?02:31
Ben64maus: nobody knows nor cares since it has been over 4 years since that has been supported02:33
mausi quit with ubuntu folks....02:34
nouckeyok you guys are going to be really proud of me, i booted on ubuntu mate. Now question : is my old data accessible from there or no ? if it is, where can I find it ?02:39
nouckeyok found it02:41
nouckeyjust need an 8th external hard drive now02:41
Bashing-omsocialevil: And what is yoyr desire ? As you have win10 (?) did you boot the installer also in EFI mode ?02:42
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socialevilBashing-om my desire is to erase the windows but regardless of whst i choose, there was no continue button. I gave back and again forward and it was ok :)) i installed it now i just need to reboot to see if it all works fibe02:51
Bashing-omsecK. good deal .. but not a good idea to go cold turkey off Windows .02:52
socialevilBashing-om why?02:53
Bashing-omsocialevil: There is a steep learning curve , much like learning a new language to be comfortable in linux .02:55
yellowany comments on the jabra stealth bluetooth headset?02:56
urmygoogleHeadset or Linux?02:56
yellowit's a headset for my phone.02:56
Ben64yellow: why are you asking in #ubuntu then02:56
urmygoogleDo you need its Linux driver?02:57
yellowany ideas what anti eardrum damage is?02:57
nedstarkhe could be using the Meizu ubuntu phone02:57
yellowwhat kind of technology is that?02:57
socialevilBashing-om actually its not my first ride with linux. I used slackware for about 5 years but that was like 15 years ago. A lot has changed but i can manage :))) i just have to read here and there and i guess all will be fine02:57
nedstarkin which case he is much like a newborn child in the movie "Children of Men"02:57
Ben64yellow: you're in the wrong channel02:58
urmygoogleI think he needs suggestion from Linux users about headset technology02:59
Bashing-omsocialevil: Yepper ! all will be fine . I too started the linux PC journey with slackware .02:59
yellowif i use a headphone headset for phone calls, do i get the sound into both my ears?02:59
yellowisn't that kind of nice vs just the one ear?/02:59
urmygoogleWhat's slackware03:00
nils_socialevil, hey pops, we're on kernel 4.9 now ;)03:04
ngaiohas anyone seen a bug where the entire image on the screen starts vibrating / pulsing / flickering if the terminal is on the left of the screen (or maximized) and it is full of text? I'm running an Nvidia GTX 1070 with the 375.26 driver. All thermals are good.03:43
cfhowlettngaio, pic?03:43
ngaiocfhowlett, I could take a pic or small video with my cellphone I guess. Would that be helpful?03:44
cfhowlettmore info = better answers03:44
ngaioI'll do that now03:44
Guy1524hey guys, I installed lubuntu on an old computer and installed thunderbird, I need contacts from a pst file to be imported into thunderbird03:48
cfhowlettGuy1524, Tools > Import         assuming TBird can read .pst.  there is a mozilla irc channel03:49
linuxuserubuntu software center crashes every time i open it. help?03:49
cfhowlettlinuxuser, perhaps a bit of command line first: sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 999903:51
rangemongerlinuxuser: maybe clearing its config file would help, though youd lose changed settings made to the software center, if any, no big deal03:51
Guy1524cfhowlett: I selected address book and .pst is not an option03:51
rangemongeryeah, try cfhowletts thing first03:51
cfhowlettGuy1524, you might need to export from outlook?  in a more readable form03:52
Guy1524I no longer have access to the computer they were exported from03:52
Guy1524all I have is the .pst file03:52
Guy1524would I be able to open it in outlook on another pc and export it from there?03:52
cfhowlettGuy1524, time to talk to tbird support03:53
Guy1524is that an irc channel?03:53
cfhowlettGuy1524, open tbird Help menu for optoins03:53
cfhowlettlinuxuser, your ppa's are the first thing I would suspect.03:54
cfhowlettand what ubuntu version are you on linuxuser ?03:54
linuxuser16.04 i think03:54
cfhowlettlsb_release -a            linuxuser03:55
linuxuserUbuntu 16.04.1 LTS03:56
cfhowlettlinuxuser, OK then.  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade03:56
linuxusercfhowlett, ok its doing its thing, so i'll wait. thanks for the help03:59
socialevilNils_ i was on 2.4 when i used linux04:00
cfhowlettlinuxuser, happy2help!   I believe the ubuntu software center has been pretty much deprecated in favor of the .... "software center"?  at any rate, do not use USC.04:00
nils_socialevil, my first was 2.2... something04:01
cfhowlettU   buntu      S    oftware           you see the pattern, yes?04:01
okieiamhello, does anyone know gnome shell 3.18 rotation icon in Ubuntu 16.04 kernel 4.4.0-31 for touch screen laptop04:01
nils_socialevil, got it on a CD in computer magazine04:01
nils_I wonder if okieiam is holding is laptop sideways right now04:02
linuxuserk thnks04:02
nils_socialevil, I guess with regards to BSD and commercial Unix you have seniority04:02
okieiamhehe so do you04:02
linuxusercfhowlett, its done, should i reboot?04:03
cfhowlettlinuxuser, only if it requested same04:03
socialevilNils_ i just know that to my lack of kniwledge i had to open xorg file and write shit just to use my mouse haahha it were funny days04:04
nils_okieiam, if you're serious I'll look up the xrandr shell thingy to flip it ;)04:04
nils_socialevil, I had to write down the Mode Lines for CRT screen04:04
nils_sounds a bit like the four yorkshiremen...04:05
okieiamnils_ it actually automatically rotate seriously on Gnome only not Unuty04:05
socialevilMemories down the line :))04:05
nils_okieiam, so how would you feel about opening a shell every time you open unity to rotate your screen?04:05
okieiamanyone on GNome04:05
freedumbshello! want to try a different xorg  driver for my video card ... try to install with apt-get ... fglrx : Depends: lib32gcc1 but it is not going to be installed ... why? using 64 bit kernel. annoying.04:06
cfhowlett!info gflrx04:06
ubottuPackage gflrx does not exist in yakkety04:06
socialevilI remember some ifconfig stuff for the internet.. Damn ... Now i just click and write my wifi pass04:06
freedumbstrying to install fglrz04:06
okieiamit should be complicated nils_ that way04:06
freedumbs!info fglrx04:06
cfhowlett!info fglrx04:06
ubottuPackage fglrx does not exist in yakkety04:06
cfhowlettlanguage ...04:07
linuxusercfhowlett, thanks a lot. problem fixed :)04:07
cfhowlettlinuxuser, happy2help!04:08
okieiamGome is more touch friendly than Unity04:08
freedumbsTHANKS Flannel04:08
Bashing-omFlannel: What release ? as there is no longer a FGLRX driver .04:08
FlannelBashing-om: you mean freedumbs ^^04:09
Bashing-omFlannel: Yeah .. ny bad . my apologies :)04:09
linuxusercfhowlett, that command also fixed my other computer. it would boot into a black screen. now fixed :)04:10
cfhowlettlinuxuser, do you feel that warm glow inside?  yes, yes, let the leet flow through you!04:10
* linuxuser :D04:11
linuxuserim a long time user of linux mint but now im back to ubuntu04:12
CodeMouse92Where is the best tutorial for a complete newbie to Debian packaging to create a PPA?04:12
cfhowlett!packaging | CodeMouse9204:12
ubottuCodeMouse92: The packaging guide is at http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring04:12
freedumbsindians are scum04:13
linuxuseris this just a help channel or people it can be off topic too?04:13
cfhowlettfreedumbs, stop your nonsense now.04:13
Flannellinuxuser: this is just support, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter04:13
CodeMouse92linuxuser: This is help only. offtopic is #ubuntu-offtopic04:13
sintrehelp mods would like04:13
cfhowlett!guidelines | freedumbs04:13
ubottufreedumbs: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines04:13
linuxuserthanks guys04:13
robotti^x§tttqw/win 2904:15
CodeMouse92I'm assuming that, if I *really* need a package from Debian sid (I have all the dependencies), I should just install the .deb manually, and NOT add sid to my apt sources?04:32
Ben64CodeMouse92: neither04:32
bazhangCodeMouse92, never mix debian in there04:33
ngaiocfhowlett, I made an MP4 video illustrating the severe screen flicker problem that I've come across. I've uploaded it to my website. It's 366 MB. Do you want the URL?04:33
CodeMouse92Let me specify: I need a third party package, and either I can install the .deb that happens to be available for Debian Sid, or I can spend seven hours Debian packaging it myself.04:33
CodeMouse92But I have to have the package.04:33
Ben64i'll bite, what is the package04:34
Ben64jesus no stop04:34
freedumbsindians are amazing people.04:34
CodeMouse92LLVM's version, NOT GNU's libstdc++, Ben64.04:34
cfhowlettfreedumbs, you have been warned ...04:34
CodeMouse92Relax. :)04:34
freedumbswhat i love indians.04:35
freedumbsubuntu. together one.04:35
cfhowlettfreedumbs, go to someone else's channel to play.04:35
Ben64CodeMouse92: what's wrong with ubuntu's version04:35
CodeMouse92Ben64: Too old, showstopper bug.04:35
bazhangfreedumbs, not here04:36
CodeMouse92(In case you're wondering, I'm an expert-level C++ developer, so I'm not installing something willy-nilly. libc++ is not installed anywhere otherwise - this would be fresh.)04:36
bazhangtake the chat elsewhere please freedumbs04:36
freedumbsCodeMouse92: wow. sounds scary.04:36
Ben64CodeMouse92: you're still doing it wrong04:36
freedumbsCodeMouse92: sounds like you've wasted your life.04:37
bazhangCodeMouse92, it's not supported here, please dont continue asking here for help04:37
CodeMouse92Ben64: Okay, I'll bite. This will be version #5 of how to get the latest version of this working. What's your idea?04:37
Ben64install debian04:37
bazhangCodeMouse92, compile or get a PPA04:37
CodeMouse92bazhang: All righty. Nevermind on all points.04:37
CodeMouse92I guess I'm going to go build a PPA for this.04:38
Ben64or report the bug, fix the bug if you're an expert04:38
CodeMouse92Ben64: You seem to have missed the point. The bug IS fixed. I was pointed to the .deb package by the *actual developers*04:38
CodeMouse92As opposed to debian packaging the whole stupid thing myself?04:38
freedumbsBen64 sounds like a jerk.04:38
cfhowlett!ops | freedumbs04:38
ubottufreedumbs: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu04:38
Ben64what is the bug?04:39
freedumbsscrew you, Ben64!04:39
freedumbsand screw you cfhowlett, you stupid fuckin fag.04:39
CodeMouse92Ben64: C++ thing. I really can't detail it here, and doing so won't really help me.04:40
CodeMouse92Because, point is, I need LLVM libc++ 3.9, not 3.504:40
nils_CodeMouse92, you don't like libstdc++?04:40
CodeMouse92Okay, I'm done.04:40
Ben64it doesn't make sense that it wouldn't be fixed for ubuntu, but whatever, if you can't even detail it, who cares04:40
bazhanghe's gone, lets get back to ubuntu support please04:40
TatouDoes it matter what I call a mount?04:40
TatouCan it be /tatou/likes/dogs For example?04:41
nils_Tatou, do your in laws have access to your computer?04:41
Ben64Tatou: if you want, sure04:41
TatouSo this is for vagrant.. I want to share some code..04:42
ngaiospeaking of Ubuntu support, does anyone want to take a look at a video where maximizing the Ubuntu terminal when it is full of text makes the screen flicker like crazy? http://damonlynch.net/share/Ubuntu1610screen-flicker.mp404:42
ngaioit's 366 MB04:42
ngaiothis is on an Nvidia GTX 1070 using driver 375.26 from the "graphics-drivers" PPA04:44
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cfhowlettone808, this is ubuntu support.  ask your questions.04:44
cfhowlett!cn | one80804:44
ubottuone808: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw04:44
cfhowlettone808, stop it04:44
Turiyahi, which iso should i be using for ubuntu server?04:53
cfhowlettstrange but true ...04:54
Turiyai've tried using 16.04 LTS and it stops at https://askubuntu.com/questions/865907/software-selection-step-failure-during-ubuntu-16-04-server-installation04:54
cfhowlettTuriya, use the current version: 16.04.1 and be sure you md5sum before attempting installation04:55
Turiyathats the one i burnt to cd and it came up with that error message04:56
cfhowlettand did you md5sum?04:56
Turiyai'll do that this time04:56
cfhowlett. . .04:56
cfhowlettbad downloads happen to good people.  so do bad cd burns.04:56
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM04:56
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linuxuserany ideas why steam won't run? it's installed..05:01
cfhowlettlinuxuser, start it from the terminal to see the errors.05:01
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.05:02
f3ngt1ngI have installed ibus, but i can not use it05:02
nekuraHi, I have to autorun a program on bootup, more pricisely it is the "shout irc webclient". The special thing is, that you send the comand "shout start" and the program stays open until I press "CTRL + C". What would be the best way to run this on bootup? Without stopping the service.05:02
linuxusercfhowlett, http://dpaste.com/26QY6T805:07
cfhowlettlinuxuser, not something I can instantly suss out, but libgl points to graphics ... I think.  At any rate, #ubuntu-steam would know more05:08
linuxusercfhowlett, thanks05:09
cfhowlettbest of luck05:09
chomwittsth messy happes in 16.04 with gnome-software packages. package is kept from apt-get upgrade05:10
bazhangchomwitt, did you try dist-upgrade to get those held back packages05:14
bazhangchomwitt, that does NOT change versions05:14
bazhang!dist-upgrade | chomwitt05:15
ubottuchomwitt: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.05:15
chomwittbazhang: nop , i did the usual : apt-get update , apt-get upgrade05:16
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade05:16
bazhangchomwitt, then try it?05:16
cfhowlettbazhang, apt-get upgrade is NOT the same as apt-get dist-upgrade05:17
chomwittcfhowlett: so should i try it?05:17
cfhowlettas bazhang wisely suggested --- yes!05:17
bazhangcfhowlett, correct05:17
chomwittcfhowlett: ok.05:17
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linuxuserhow do i open a folder as admin?05:19
chomwittjust being curious, why apt-get upgrade cant handle this ?05:19
ali_sudo nautilus path/to/folder/05:19
bazhanglinuxuser, why would you need to do that05:19
linuxuserbazhang, add somehting to sources.list05:21
bazhanglinuxuser, then sudo nano05:21
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linuxusernot practical for me to use nano05:22
linuxusergedit would be better05:22
cfhowlettnano gedit vim ... no shortage of editors.  choose 1.05:22
bazhanglinuxuser, then use what is practical for you05:22
linuxuserneed to open file or folder as root though05:23
cfhowlettsudo gedit filename ...05:23
linuxuserdont know how05:23
cfhowlettand you best be very certain about what you change as root05:23
bazhangin /etc/apt/sources.list linuxuser05:24
ngaioI filed bug #1653323 regarding the screen flicker problem, FWIW05:26
ubottubug 1653323 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Severe screen flicker on Unity when terminal maximized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165332305:26
linuxuserfinally got steam to work now :)05:27
piousminionHi, can I 'dd' the mini.iso to my usb drive? i.e. Is the image a hybrid?05:27
piousminionlinuxuser: yes. I hybrid iso that can boot from cdrom or usb. Rather common these days.05:30
linuxuserpiousminion, i think the answer is yes05:31
linuxusertry it out and see if it boots?05:31
piousminionlinuxuser: I guess that's the only option I have. :P05:32
mohamed_hi i want learn programing languge for IT05:32
linuxusermohamed_, youtube has plenty of tutorials05:32
mohamed_but i cant wat can we du to first languge i learn first05:33
bazhangmohamed_, please ask in ##programming05:34
bazhangmohamed_, this is ubuntu support05:34
mohamed_wat can we do to download program to ubuntu05:36
tomreyn!apt | mohamed_05:36
ubottumohamed_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)05:36
Gaming4JCIs it just me or is this site down? https://trac.videolan.org/05:46
rangemongerjust you05:46
Gaming4JCKeeps saying "Environment not found"05:46
rangemongerhmm, thats weird05:47
rangemongerapparently its not just you05:47
rangemongerbut it loaded for me05:47
rangemongeri think down for everyones https thinger doesnt work05:48
rangemongerif you  do it without https, it works05:48
Gaming4JCah ok05:49
nkr_Is there any easy way to resize a luks partition?05:53
nkr_I want to install a new distro, my entire drive is formated ext/4 luks05:54
nils_nkr_, not easy but it's possible05:58
nils_nkr_, unless you want to shrink it?05:58
piousminionlinuxuser: It 'was' a hybrid, FYI. :)05:59
fallen_iam new user for linux .how to trace someonce number using backbox 4.606:06
fallen_help me please please06:07
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/06:07
xanguafallen_: this is Ubuntu support, not backbox06:08
goose_Hey everyone06:21
goose_So, im on Ubuntu 16.04 GNOME and the little menu buttons in apps isnt there, any help?06:22
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LinuxNovicehello. what are the recommended system requirement for Kubuntu 16.10 and 16.04?06:23
goose_WHERE IS IT OG MY GOD06:24
sanjayi am having issue with ubuntu06:24
goose_LinuxNovice, http://askubuntu.com/questions/333795/what-are-the-system-requirements-for-each-flavour-of-ubuntu-desktop06:24
sanjayregarding sound06:24
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, if it works, no problem LOL06:24
LinuxNoviceI have a laptop that runs on Intel Celeron M 1.6 Ghz single core cup and 2 gb ram. Can it run Kubuntu?06:24
goose_most likely yeah06:25
sanjayi am using sound blaster sound card and 7.1 creative inspire t series with 7.1 channelsound card is 5.1 channel06:25
goose_drivers installed?06:25
sanjayit has06:25
LinuxNoviceGreat. Will try that.06:25
LinuxNoviceI have Xubuntu 16.10 installed on this laptop.06:25
sanjaydrivers are the one which are installed by default06:26
okieiamI need ro ask some one from Gnome shell developer06:26
LinuxNovicehow can I install Kubuntu on it, now?06:26
sanjayin between sound vanishes while playing06:26
goose_sanjay, you updated them?06:26
okieiamI need to ask some one from Gnome shell developer06:26
ObrienDaveso? just install the Kubuntu desktop. same core system06:26
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, ^^^06:26
goose_ObrienDave, I think he is putting it on antoher laptop06:26
sanjaysanjay@sanjay-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:~$ su root06:26
sanjayroot@sanjay-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:/home/sanjay# lspci06:26
sanjay00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (external gfx0 port B) (rev 02)06:26
sanjay00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD990 I/O Memory Management Unit (IOMMU)06:26
LinuxNoviceShould I go for dual booting or replacing it with Kubuntu?06:26
sanjay00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port B)06:26
goose_pastebin is your friend06:27
ubottuPlease try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.06:27
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:27
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, just install the Kubuntu desktop. same core system. select which DE you want at login screen06:27
LinuxNoviceok.  how to install kubuntu desktop?06:27
sanjayroot@sanjay-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:/home/sanjay# lspci06:27
sanjay00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (external gfx0 port B) (rev 02)06:28
sanjay00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD990 I/O Memory Management Unit (IOMMU)06:28
sanjay00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port B)06:28
sanjay00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port D)06:28
Gaming4JC!pastebin | sandeepkr_06:28
ubottusandeepkr_: please see above06:28
sanjay00:09.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port H)06:28
Gaming4JCdude use pastebin please06:28
ObrienDavesanjay, STOP!!!06:28
okieiamI need to ask some one from Gnome shell developer06:28
LinuxNovicelet me mention it again. My laptop runs on Intel Celeron M single core 1.6 Ghz cpu and 2 gb ram.06:29
Gaming4JCLinuxNovice: You should test the Kubuntu LiveCD/LiveUSB first, to make sure it works on your laptop06:29
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, in terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:29
LinuxNoviceok. thanks guys.06:30
sanjayroot@sanjay-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:/home/sanjay# lspci | grep sb*  00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (external gfx0 port B) (rev 02) 00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD990 I/O Memory Management Unit (IOMMU) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port B) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI b06:30
sanjayridge (PCI express gpp port D) 00:09.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port H) 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40)06:30
sanjay00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller06:30
sanjay00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller06:30
sanjay00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller06:30
sanjay00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller06:30
Gaming4JC!pastebin | sanjay06:30
ubottusanjay: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:30
LinuxNoviceamong all the flavours of Ubuntu, which one is most resource hungry?06:31
Gaming4JCKDE and Standard Unity imo06:31
ObrienDavethe standard one with Unity06:31
Gaming4JCXubuntu and Lubuntu are nice for low resources06:32
ObrienDaveI run Xubuntu on a gamilng laptop, very nice06:32
goose_Okay, I cannot figure this out any help?06:33
goose_Looked EVERYWHERE06:33
Gaming4JCwhat exactly are you looking for? :/06:33
goose_You know on the top of apps where it says "Menu, file, edit, etc"?06:33
goose_Its not there in gnome06:33
goose_cant figure it out06:33
goose_Its here in hexchat06:34
goose_Here is example06:34
Gaming4JCin gnome3 they clone apple afaik, it shows in the top bar06:34
LinuxNoviceok. I'll try Kubuntu live usb.06:34
Gaming4JCoutside the window06:34
goose_Here is what I mean06:35
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, why? just install the KDE desktop. no need to go through all of that06:35
LinuxNovicewhich flavour of Ubuntu replicates the near Windows experience?06:35
goose_LinuxNovice, Unity, cinammon, gnome, xfce in my experience06:36
LinuxNoviceok. that's better, I think. I'll install KDE desktop.06:36
ObrienDavenone, look into ZorinOS for a windows like appearance06:36
goose_kde is probabaly closest actually06:36
goose_As far as layout i mean06:36
Gaming4JCgoose_: You mean this? http://i.imgur.com/XBABwQG.png06:37
ObrienDavei never said Zorin was any good ;P06:37
goose_Yeah but its not there in terminal either06:37
LinuxNovicelet me try KDE. I already have Xubuntu installed on my laptop.06:37
goose_Gaming4JC, http://i.imgur.com/qqd6M6z.jpg06:37
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, in terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:37
goose_cant you just use apt now?06:38
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, ok.06:38
goose_instead of apt-get06:38
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, at login, look in top right corner, you can select the DE there06:38
Gaming4JCgoose_: Ok that looks messed up, not even showing in the top bar as it should be :P06:38
goose_yeah cant figure out how to re-enable or what the hell06:39
LinuxNoviceLet me reboot into Xubuntu, first.06:39
goose_I mean, I just installed this tonight and got it where I want it,  dont wanna reinstall06:39
goose_I figured I just disabled somewhere but idk06:39
Gaming4JCI believe there is a config for this06:39
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, you can have every DE that ubuntu offers in that same menu. ALL *buntus use the same core system, just different DEs and such06:40
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Gaming4JCgoose_: It seems it is defective by design: https://wiki.gnome.org/Gnome3CheatSheet#Applications Application menus were moved outside of applications in Gnome306:43
Gaming4JCAnother reason I am using budgie-desktop06:43
goose_I could have sworn they were there a few days ago in gnome306:44
Gaming4JCgnome-fallback/classic used to have it06:44
goose_FUCK YEAH06:44
goose_I got it. Its under preference, but couldnt get to preferences without that before06:44
nkr_Currently on ubuntu 16.10. Am I able to run manjaro side by side without creating new partitions?06:46
goose_Id imagine not since its a whole other distro06:46
goose_So it would need a new partition06:46
nkr_That's what i was thinking.06:46
nkr_Unfortunatly my drive is ext/4 luks06:47
Gaming4JCunless you have a spare hdd or usb drive06:47
goose_Yeah I just bought a new SSD for linux06:47
rangemongerwhat about running it in a vm06:47
Gaming4JCor virt-manager/virtualbox06:47
nkr_It's not the same in vm. YOu don't get the full experience.06:47
Gaming4JCtrue, spare hdd is better06:47
nkr_Maybe i'll add an m.2 today and try it out.06:48
goose_m.2 is the shit06:48
rangemongerdepends on the vm06:48
rangemongerif you use kvm you can passthrough a videocard06:48
goose_Another question, anyone know why profont REFUSES to install?06:48
nkr_how will grub respond to a new m.2 drive?06:48
Gaming4JCyeah but you need two video cards afaik06:48
goose_its a .pcf file06:48
rangemongerGaming4JC: one videocard and one igpu would do06:49
* Gaming4JC yawns06:51
Gaming4JCcu guys :)06:51
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ekimhello all.07:01
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goose_sup ekim07:04
ekimNot much! Just trying to play with linux a little again.  You?07:05
goose_Same here, just got back on after awhile07:05
ekimYeah it has been many years since I dabbled but always didn't care for windows, just forced to use it.  LOL07:06
Fla_2016has anyone had any experience with pcsx2 binary?07:06
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rangemongerme, but its been a while07:07
rangemongeri can get it again07:07
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ObrienDaveyou're back with Xubuntu?07:08
ekimSo I am still a noob with linux but need to setup some file sharing within my household mainly.  Is it complicated to do?  I was looking at FreeNAS to try.07:08
rangemongerFla_2016: ive used it but its been a while07:09
ducasseekim: freenas is not linux-based, but freebsd07:09
goose_wtf steam07:09
LinuxNoviceyes, Logged in Xubuntu now07:09
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, in terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:09
Fla_2016Ok, when i'launch PCSX2, i get the error message "It was unable to start gs plugin". Ubuntu Mate 16.04 , ati radeon 920007:09
ekimducasse:  dang, didn't think about that.  Just started looking it up!  Thanks.07:10
LinuxNovicerunning that command now.07:10
Fla_2016with the ubuntu 14.04 it worked great07:10
LinuxNovice40% completed.07:10
rangemongerFla_2016: what videocards in your box?07:10
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, WAIT for it to finish installing before doing anything else07:10
rangemongerFla_2016: oh, 9200, missed tghat07:11
Fla_2016ragemonger: radeon 920007:11
ducasseekim: freenas is an excellent product, but quite offtopic here. i'm sure they have their own channel, though.07:11
Fla_2016rangemonger: whith ubuntu 14.04 it worked great07:12
rangemongerwhat drivers were on there vs now?07:12
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, let me know when the terminal prompt shows up again07:12
Fla_2016rangemonger: mesa07:12
ekimducasse:  Yeah I get it.  I was more interested in something that works within linux so I wont be using or talking about it (freeNAS) now!07:13
rangemongerFla_2016: mesa both bimes?07:14
Fla_2016rangemonger: Yess07:14
ekimThat is why I through the name out there cause I thought it worked with it.  My apologies!07:14
ducasseekim: you can set up zfs and nfs or samba yourself on ubuntu, but you'll need to do some reading. it works really well, though, i use zfs and nfs on ubunutu myself.07:15
rangemongerFla_2016: wonder if its a pcsx2 plugin issue07:15
Fla_2016rangemonger: Yes, I think it is a program plugin problem07:16
rangemongerwhat ver of the emu/plugin are you trying?07:16
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, just over 50% completed.07:17
ObrienDavejust wait07:18
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, ok07:18
Fla_2016rangemonger: PCSX2 1.4.007:18
ekimducasse:  yeah that is what I was afraid of.  I was hoping for something simple and fairly quick/easy to setup.  Time restraints.  Thanks I will check into it.07:18
xXEoflaOEXxwhen I install xpenguins it installs fine without errors and when I try to run it, it says that it is redrawing overwritten desktop icons but it never finishes. Ubuntu 16.1007:18
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, It might take another 28 minutes to complete. As it says in the terminal.07:19
ducasseekim: i strongly recommend taking the time to learn the underlying tech you use, so you will be able to fix problems.07:19
rangemongerFla_2016: thats pretty dated, why not try the current ver?07:19
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, that's fine, just let it cook07:20
Fla_2016rangemonger: and uses gsdx (gcc 5.3.1,sse2)1.0.007:20
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, ok07:20
Fla_2016rangemonger: But this is not the latest version?07:21
LinuxNoviceWhich DE in Linux is the most suitable replacement for Windows desktop?07:21
LinuxNovicesomething that works almost like Windows.07:22
rangemongerFlannel: oh crap, my bad, for some reason i thought they were at 2.0.007:22
rangemongerFla_2016: oh crap, my bad, for some reason i thought they were at 2.0.007:22
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, they mostly work like windows, they don't quite look the same, but the basic functionality is similar07:23
Fla_2016rangemonger: no, this is the lastes version in official site07:24
dorothyIs it good to have Windows as host system as Ubuntu as guest system in a virtual machine or vice-versa? I would prefer Ubuntu as host and Windows and android-x86 as guest in my virtual machine. But I am a computer student and college lab uses Windows softwares more07:24
LinuxNoviceI meant, which DE look almost like Windows. Which is most convenient for someone switching from Windows?07:24
xanguaLinuxNovice: if you want something that resembles and acts closely like Windows, maybe you should keep window07:24
ekimducasse:  That I am going to do but just hoped for a quick setup to get it going.  A long time ago and I mean along time ago, there was a built in setup with Suse that all you had to do is right click on it and answer the screens.  Worked great but I see nothing like that is around nowadays!  :)07:25
rangemongerFla_2016: yeah, youre right07:25
LinuxNoviceI intend to dump Windows forever.07:25
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, this is NOT windows, this is Linux. you'll get used to it fairly quickly07:25
rangemongerFla_2016: im installing it right now....07:26
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ducasseekim: suse still has something like that, but it uses btrfs. personally i would not recommend that for important data, but use zfs instead.07:26
LinuxNoviceanyone from India, here?07:27
ducasseekim: it's not _that_ hard to do, i'm sure you'd get help here to set it up.07:27
rangemongerim wondering if the newer build of the emu requires a newer ogl version than the videocard offers07:27
cfhowlettdorothy, they both work07:27
Fla_2016rangemonger: yeah..07:27
Fla_2016rangemonger: last time when I was using the 14:04 gave me the opportunity to use another library instead of opengl, but I do not remember what :-)07:27
rangemongerprobably a software render07:28
dorothycfhowlett: I know they both work but often some tasks requires being able to use the real hardware than through the virtual layer. For example for gaming and for video editing you need real hardware07:28
LinuxNoviceWhy is Linux or Ubuntu particularly not used by more computer users as compared to Windows?07:28
cfhowlettdorothy, so since you know ... what is your precise question?07:29
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, there is a theme for KDE or xfwm called Redmond. It looks very close to classic windows. if that's what you're after07:29
Fla_2016rangemonger: already :-)07:29
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, as far as Aero? not that I know of07:29
rangemongeri dunno07:30
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, ok. will try that after this installation of KDE is complete.07:30
dorothycfhowlett: I am confused whether to have Windows as host OS or Ubuntu as host OS. I would like to switch between OS seamlessly. I use Ubuntu often but certain softwares don't work well with linux and some requires real hardware07:30
ducasseredmond is a gtk theme.07:30
nkr_Ubuntu host, VM win for poker.07:31
ekimducasse:  I will have to look up that zfs.07:31
cfhowlettdorothy, if you truly want to experience linux, linux = host.  otherwise, reverse it07:31
LinuxNovicedo we need any anti virus software on Ubuntu?07:31
ducasse!zfs | ekim07:31
ubottuekim: For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS07:31
dorothyLinuxNovice: Because it's not as user-friendly and as much available to most users and Windows comes with your computer when you buy at a computer store07:31
rangemongerdoes pcsx2 not have a gui on linux?07:32
nkr_I will never go back to win after using linux.07:32
LinuxNovicenkr_, I also feel the same.07:32
ducasse!virus | LinuxNovice07:33
ubottuLinuxNovice: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using Samba). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus07:33
nkr_What desktop environments are you running? Anything mind blowing. I want to change it up a bit.07:33
dorothycfhowlett: I am experiencing linux. Have been using linux for years. It's simply that I am not sure whether all the softwares required for a bachelor's course in computer science would work on virtual system as Windows as guest OS on a linux host07:33
nkr_I have a web dev friend says he only hangs on to win because of photoshop.07:34
LinuxNovicenkr_, I am using Xubuntu 16.1007:34
cfhowlettdorothy, obviously I would have no way of answering that question.  so here's a plan: it's the holiday.  set up your machine.  test yoru seoftware.07:34
Fla_2016rangemonger: is the certainly, you find the item games07:34
nkr_Xubuntu, i'll check this.07:34
rangemongeryeah, it doesnt launch, im looking into it07:34
LinuxNovicecan we run photoshop on Ubuntu through Wine?07:35
ObrienDavenkr_, the Xubuntu DE is anything BUT mind blowing. fairly plain. no bells and whistles. it's designed for lower end systems07:35
rangemongerill use the one from the ppa07:36
ducasseLinuxNovice: older versions, yes07:36
nkr_@ObrienDave I've got a powerful notebook, looking for something cutting edge.07:36
Fla_2016rangemonger: In fact, I wanted to avoid throwing some ppa..07:37
LinuxNovicenkr_, which brand of notebook you have? what are it's specifications?07:37
ObrienDaveXubuntu will NOT be it. such flash-in-the-pants things impress me for 15 seconds or so ;P07:37
ducasseLinuxNovice: please take questions like that to #ubuntu-offtopic07:37
rangemongeri think its the same ver anyway07:37
nkr_asus, ddr4 16gb 2133, 512ssd 100kiops, i5 something 3.207:38
rangemongeroh, not the same... 1.5.007:38
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piousminionAnyone know how login shells are started on tty2-6 considering there is only a getty@tty1.service ?07:39
rangemongerdamn, same problem07:39
LinuxNovicehow to completely remove kubuntu desktop, in case it doesn't work or work as fast as I want it to?07:39
piousminionOR.. know how to set up automatic console login?07:39
ducassepiousminion: iirc they are spawned when you switch to them.07:39
Fla_2016rangemonger: acc07:39
piousminionducasse: yes, what 'what' spawns them?07:40
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, in terminal, sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop07:40
ducassepiousminion: systemd07:40
piousminionducasse: how if there is no service set to? lol07:40
Fla_2016rangemonger: but you just can not start of the application?07:40
ducassepiousminion: aiui, it's done by logind. it sees you switch to a new tty, and generates a service on the fly.07:41
piousminionducasse: hmm, I didn't know it could do that. Are you familiar enough to help me with a service override?07:42
rangemongerFla_2016: yeah, cant start it... yet07:42
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, I think the installation is completed.07:42
LinuxNovicethere is a prompt.07:43
ducassepiousminion: sorry, no. in _theory_ you just do 'systemctl edit getty@tty2.service' and add your stuff, but i've never tried.07:43
piousminionducasse: Wasn't aware of that option either.  I'm used to building these files by hand and plopping them in. :P  thanks07:44
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, hello...07:44
ducassepiousminion: there's also '... edit --full ...' or something like that, look at the man page for details07:45
Fla_2016rangemonger: mah..the ppa vers?07:45
Fla_2016rangemonger: However, when a function is really cool07:46
rangemongerboth versions07:46
BluesKaj'Morning ducasse, insomnia here.... :-)07:46
ubuntu-mateany body?07:46
ObrienDaveLinuxNovice, ok, when you relog, at the login screen, look in top right corner, you'll see an icon that has a mouse head on it, that's where you'll select the DE07:46
ducasseBluesKaj: hehe, wb :)07:47
ubuntu-matei'm a new07:47
ducasse!ask | ubuntu-mate07:47
ubottuubuntu-mate: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:47
ekimducasse:  thanks for the info.  Thanks for the link ubottu.07:48
LinuxNoviceObrienDave, which display manager should I choose lightdm or sddm?07:48
LinuxNoviceas the default DM.07:48
ekimnite all.  have a good one!07:48
ObrienDavelightdm is the login screen07:48
ducasseekim: if you need more stuff on zfs, like tutorials, come back and ask me. i'm here most days.07:48
ubuntu-mateok , it seems there's nobody07:49
LinuxNovicewhich one should I choose?07:49
ObrienDavedon't know, i don't use KDE07:49
ekimducasse:  I will try to remember that.  Much appreciated.07:49
ObrienDavetry lightdm07:49
ducasseLinuxNovice: if you use kde i would probably choose sddm07:49
ObrienDavescratch my suggestion ;P07:50
ducasseLinuxNovice: (that's the kde display manager)07:50
LinuxNoviceducasse, I'll choose that.07:50
piousminionWell, I hosed my system. No login prompts. lol  Any idea how to access whatever bootloader 16.04 uses? :P07:51
ducassepiousminion: hold shift or esc on boot07:52
cfhowlett!grub2 | piousminion07:52
ubottupiousminion: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:52
nkr_Happened to me before.  I used a windows install disk, formated, installed windows. Created new linux usb iso installer. Installed linux.07:53
BluesKajpiousminion hold down the left shift key right after the logo/post screen07:53
piousminionAll fixed. thanks. :)07:59
rangemongerFla_2016: hmmm, now on my vm, i get other errors08:00
rangemongeraaaand after a delay, it works08:00
rangemongerwonder if you can dl another plugin to try08:02
Fla_2016rangemonger: In fact, it is what I was looking if there is an alternative plugin08:03
Fla_2016rangemonger: i've seen ZZOGL lib..but not foud where to download for linux08:04
rangemongerFla_2016: could be wrong but the plugin might be the same for both OSs08:06
BluesKajparamourne, yes we see your post08:06
BluesKajwrong nick, no instant grat here08:07
rangemongerive got a stash of plugins somewhere08:07
Fla_2016rangemonger: Hopefully, but I not really find where to download it08:08
Fla_2016rangemonger: Great notice :-)08:09
Fla_2016rangemonger: for me it would be enough to know where to download them08:09
Fla_2016rangemonger: let me know :-)08:10
rangemongerFla_2016: im a bit rusty, how do i boot just the bios?08:11
ubottuXposed^: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».08:11
rangemongerFlannel: i dont know, ill look where to get em, i got em years ago08:12
rangemongerFla_2016: ^08:13
rangemongergot it08:15
rangemongerFla_2016: hmm, owrks for me right out of the box08:15
rangemongerand its on a vm on an intel gfx system08:16
rangemongerFla_2016: http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/ps2/ps2plugins.html08:21
linociscohi all,08:21
linociscowhat is opensource alternative to VMware ESX-i?08:21
rangemongerlinocisco: kvm or xen08:21
rangemongerkvm is part of the linux kernal08:21
rangemongercomes with it08:21
linociscorangemonger, can they really do hardware-based Virtuallization like VMware?08:22
rangemongeryou might want to check out the package virt-manager08:22
rangemongeryes, better than it08:22
rangemongerhence the reason lots of people that deal with VMs think VMwares days are numbered08:23
rangemongeri say this as someone who used vmw ws daily since ver 3 or so08:24
linociscorangemonger, ok.08:25
nkr_Virtmanager native linux?08:26
rangemongerFla_2016: i dont know, i can use psx2 right out of the box on my vm, try those plugins from that site, maybe try looking into the drivers for that videocard08:27
nkr_I've never heard of this vm.08:27
rangemongernkr_: yeah its a native app in the main repos08:27
nkr_How does it perform compared with vbox?08:28
Fla_2016rangemonger: THANKS08:28
rangemongernp, hope it works out08:28
stepperhey so is ubuntu like a beginners linux08:28
rangemongernkr_: well virtman is just a front end for xen and kvm08:28
xanguastepper: Ubuntu is for anyone and everyone08:29
rangemongerabout the same but it has vt-d, VBOXs vtd doesnt work right08:29
stepperyes even beginners xangua08:29
ObrienDavestepper, ubuntu is a real linux system. it's only as good as you are08:30
stepperlike myself ...someone who can onl.y use windows...i seem to be doing fine on this linux08:30
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stepperah that was my next question ObrienDave ...is ubuntu a real linux08:30
rangemongernkr_: kvm is built into linux and easier to get going, xen is a little bit more tricky, atleast if youre going to use vt-d08:31
baizonstepper: yes it is08:31
ObrienDavea NOT real linux system would be CygWin, for example08:31
stepperwow its amazing ...i never knew linux was pretty much just like windows...my ubuntu is no harder than windows08:32
stepperexcellent choice for a first linux08:32
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ObrienDavethe basics of computer use are close to the same, it's when you get into the CLI and scripting that it's different08:33
stepperah the cli, i havent bothered with that yet08:33
ObrienDaveit's known as the terminal08:34
stepperyes i heard about it the terminal or cli or command line08:34
BluesKajor shell08:34
stepperbut i dont think i need it on ubuntu, everything just seems to work from the windows08:34
ObrienDaveyou will, there is a LOT of things that are much easier in the shell08:35
acresearchpeople, what is wrong with unity 8?08:35
ObrienDaveit's unity ;P08:35
acresearchis it for PCs or mobile phones?08:35
acresearchObrienDave: haha08:36
ducasseacresearch: it's not ready yet08:36
acresearchducasse: why was it included in 16.10?08:37
ObrienDaveand it's unity ;P08:37
ducasseacresearch: it's included as a 'tech preview' only08:37
acresearchducasse: oh ok08:37
acresearchducasse: when do you think it will roll out as the primary environment?08:38
ducasseacresearch: when it's ready :)08:38
ducasseacresearch: also, according to mark s., the community will choose whether they want unity 7 or 808:39
ObrienDaveoh no! not the mark s. ;P08:40
wiselydoesittrying to get Android Studio / Android Emulator setup, is umake still the recommended method on Yakkety?08:51
ObrienDaveyou're compiling it?08:51
Guest76180How to run Vino ubuntu 16.04?08:53
ObrienDavedo you mean run WINE?08:54
ducasseGuest76180: /etc/xdg/autostart/vino-server.desktop should autostart it08:54
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wiselydoesiti'm just running "sudo umake android" ObrienDave , we shall see what happens.09:02
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meldronhey guys, recently after i boot my machien the wired network connection is not working, only after i manually restart via the tray icon it works again, anybody had a simular problem?09:05
ObrienDavemeldron, which kernel are you running?09:06
meldronObrienDave: 4.4.0-57-generic09:07
SebthreeBQM10HDmeldron, which version of ubuntu09:07
meldronSebthreeBQM10HD: 16.0409:07
ObrienDavemeldron, 4.8.x.x is available in the repos, try that09:08
meldronObrienDave: installing via deb file?09:09
ObrienDaveuse synaptic to find it09:09
baizonmeldron, ObrienDave: linux-image-4.8.0-32-generic09:10
meldronis there some kind of meta packe which also installs hedaer files...?09:11
rangemongerisnt there a linux-headers?09:12
ObrienDavethat's the complete package09:13
meldronah tanks alot09:13
ObrienDavenot that last one09:13
meldronwhat I always wnated to know: is there a difference between linux-headers-4.8.0-30 and linux-headers-4.8.0-30-generic?09:14
ObrienDaveheaders is only part of the complete package09:15
ObrienDaveor the low-latency version, linux-signed-lowlatency-hwe-16.04-edge09:16
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ObrienDavemeldron, do you use grub-customizer?09:23
meldronObrienDave: i dont09:23
meldronObrienDave: do i have to make any manual adjustments to grub?09:24
ObrienDavethat can help with putting the kernal list in grub in the order you like. install via PPA09:24
ObrienDave*SHHHHH* don't tell anyone here I recommended installing via PPA ;P09:25
rangemongerlol 2nd that09:25
rangemongeri use it too09:26
cfhowlettapparently ObrienDave has forgotten the unfortunate fate of heretics ...09:26
meldronlol, shit now you are doomed for helping me09:26
meldronso let's see if the new kernel fixed the problem09:26
ObrienDavewhat happens in #u stays in #u ;P09:27
meldronObrienDave: thanks alot, works fine again09:28
ObrienDavebtw, i had trouble with wired connection using also09:29
bytefirehello, for a systemd service is there a way to define restart strategy, e.g. exponential backoff or retry n number of times and then give up?09:30
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ObrienDavewell, there's a pillow calling my name. *waves and poofs*09:33
VISIONGATEhi guys09:34
VISIONGATEusing peanunt for the pkk to auth onto ubuntu server at ec209:35
VISIONGATEbut what pass is used for an su prompt once im logged in?09:35
VISIONGATEno one an idea?09:37
cfhowlettyou waited a whole 40 seconds ... perhaps a bit more patience, yeah?09:38
akikVISIONGATE: what is peanunt?09:41
cfhowlettVISIONGATE, somewhat esoteric query ... perhaps #ubuntu-server might know more?09:41
VISIONGATEpageant sorry09:42
VISIONGATEkey management-09:42
akikVISIONGATE: you need to find your user password from somewhere09:44
akikVISIONGATE: who provisioned that server?09:44
ikoniaVISIONGATE: your running pagent on linux ?09:44
ikoniaor from a windows host09:44
VISIONGATEwindows host09:45
VISIONGATEits ec2 / amazon aws09:45
VISIONGATEthe use ssh keypair auth09:45
VISIONGATEnormaly they dont have set a userpwd09:45
ikoniaVISIONGATE: you understand that "su" has no password ?09:45
ikoniaVISIONGATE: and you understand you can't login as "root" from ssh ?09:45
VISIONGATEi login as ubuntu09:45
ikoniaVISIONGATE: then what command do you run09:46
VISIONGATEfor example su - postgres09:47
VISIONGATEi need to type a pass09:47
ikoniaVISIONGATE: no you don't09:47
VISIONGATEeventhou i successfully authed with keypair09:47
ikoniaa.) you don't use su09:47
ikoniab.) you shouldn't be the postress user09:47
ikoniac.) your keypair auth has nothing to do with your shell auth09:47
ikoniaVISIONGATE: what do you actually want to achieve ?09:48
VISIONGATEi want to setup an ubuntu server and install odoo on it.09:48
ikoniaVISIONGATE: ok - so what part are you struggling with ?09:49
VISIONGATEon the amazon ec2 - but im not really an admin or experienced with server stuff. coming more from the design area and just training / practicing09:49
VISIONGATEand would like to try out odoo.09:49
ikoniadesign area ?09:49
VISIONGATEphotoshop, illustrator, after effects09:49
ikoniaas in graphic design ?09:49
ikoniaVISIONGATE: so are you following a guide or just playing around ?09:49
VISIONGATEso im probably asking very anoying questions09:50
ikonianot at all09:50
VISIONGATEwell i just started an instance- at ec2 - logged in successfully with keypair09:50
VISIONGATEand i try to follow this guide09:50
VISIONGATEmy own estimated "logic" says, i need to install first some services09:51
VISIONGATEand put them into the autostart09:51
ikoniathat guide sucks09:51
VISIONGATEcannot judge or say which one sucks, knowledge is too small :)09:52
ikoniaVISIONGATE: not a cirtisism of you09:52
VISIONGATEbut if you say it, i believe you09:52
ikoniahowtoforge = %99 rubbish09:52
VISIONGATEbrb - smoking09:53
VISIONGATEafter that lets find a nice guide09:53
VISIONGATEthe issue i get is, i can only do copy paste of guides, but actually i dont really learn something, and if i have to modify sth, i get stuck. it makes it pretty hard to really get more XP in this09:54
morodeyqualcuno e in linea?09:56
morodeyciao pixeli09:56
ikonia!it | morodey09:56
ubottumorodey: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)09:56
VISIONGATEikonia: can i qry you?09:59
ikoniaVISIONGATE: no need09:59
ikoniajust ask in the channel09:59
azizLIGHTall my desktop icons have disappeared on 14.0410:03
VISIONGATEas I said, im a total noob, finished the commandline at codecademy, to learn to navigate with the standard commands, thats all. i got a bit of knowledge about what a cronjob is, iptable is. but thats it. so im looking for a challenge, besides that i really want to try out odoo. so ill try to make a small roadmap, step by step, to master this. i got an amazon ec2 instance running and im logged in right now using ubuntu. goal is to install10:04
VISIONGATEodoo (openERP)10:04
azizLIGHTis it because i am running out of hdd space10:04
VISIONGATEikonia: trying the official documentation now ( https://www.odoo.com/documentation/9.0/setup/install.html#packaged-installers )10:07
The_MythazizLIGHT: are you Gnome,  Kde, Xfce?10:07
azizLIGHTim on regular ubuntu 14.0410:07
azizLIGHTi think thats unity10:07
VISIONGATEikonia: "permission denied" once i try to "echo "deb http://nightly.odoo.com/9.0/nightly/deb/ ./" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"10:07
azizLIGHTnever mind solved it10:07
ikoniaVISIONGATE: official docs are always a better start, however, cautious should be advised as sometimes the official ones are also sloppy10:07
azizLIGHTnautilus crashed10:08
azizLIGHTi opened nautilus and everythings back10:08
ikoniaVISIONGATE: I'm not going to help you any more10:08
ikoniaVISIONGATE: I told you not to use su, not to be the postgres user10:08
ikoniaand I can see you've ignored that advice and are now asking blindly in ##linux10:08
The_MythazizLIGHT: good then :)10:09
VISIONGATEikonia: that was 20 minutes ago before you started helping me10:09
VISIONGATEim just with you.10:09
ikoniabenifit of the doubt as the time stamps are questionsable10:09
ikoniaVISIONGATE: for your issue, run "sudo -i" then run that command, then run "exit" to drop out of the privileged shell10:10
VISIONGATEikonia: that helped- thanks10:12
azizLIGHTok but now windows that were open before nautilus crashed, are not responding10:13
azizLIGHTsuch as terminal10:13
azizLIGHTi had a command running in terminal in a loop10:13
azizLIGHTi can see the terminal and the command there, and it has exited, but i cannot interact with the terminal window10:14
CryptoSiDHi guys/gals10:16
CryptoSiDim having an issue on ubuntu 10.04, cant install a package, but this work fine on ubuntu 16.1010:16
CryptoSiDdpkg-deb: file `/var/cache/apt/archives/r1soft-getmodule_1.0.0-50_amd64.deb' contains ununderstood data member data.tar.xz , giving up10:16
CryptoSiDthe apt is so old that must be the issue10:17
MonkeyDustCryptoSiD  10.04 is dead, or was that a typo?10:18
a13helllllo :)10:20
CryptoSiDMonkeyDust sadly it's not a typo10:21
a13y'a pas un francais :)10:21
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.10:22
CryptoSiDubuntu 10.04 with directadmin, guess the client dont want to upgrade this10:22
MonkeyDust!eol | CryptoSiD10:22
ubottuCryptoSiD: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:22
bumHello seb10:32
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The_Mythhi guys. i have vps, with Ubuntu 15.04 installed if i recall. supposing that i want to remove completely all the packages that i've installed before trying to do sudo-release-upgrade, that way i will "start over" what are the commands that i should do? thanks in advance.10:54
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MonkeyDustThe_Myth  you too, both 15.04 and 15.10 are dead, !eol10:58
The_MythMonkeyDust: i'm not the owner of the datacenter, so, i've sticked to the OS that they've installed. i dont even know if i can upgrade by myself10:59
The_Myththe problem is that i have eggdrops and i have some problems when running them with megahal module.11:02
The_Myththe module just dont start and give me a serie of output errors.11:03
MonkeyDustThe_Myth  the errors are probably related to 15.04 being dead11:07
SebthreeBQM10HDThe_Myth, MonkeyDust what errors just re joined here, and why are they on 15.04 ?11:08
MonkeyDustThe_Myth  in this channel, type   /topic11:08
spinzahow stable is upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 now?11:08
The_MythMonkeyDust: i'm not that sure. do you understand about eggdrops?11:08
SebthreeBQM10HDspinza, rather stable, and it would update to a point 1 or 211:09
ducasseThe_Myth: 15.04 is still unsupported here, you need to upgrade to a supported release to get help in this channel.11:09
spinzajust a "sudo do-release-upgrade"?11:09
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade11:09
The_MythLTS updates are released every 3y, correct?11:11
SebthreeBQM10HD18.04 is the nxt11:12
SebthreeBQM10HD16.04 current11:12
The_Mythoh. i see. they receive support for 3y..11:12
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1)11:12
The_Mythnice one11:12
SebthreeBQM10HDThe_Myth, it used to be three years for desktop and five years for server, but now for quite a few both get five yeas11:12
MonkeyDustpolicy has changed11:13
SebthreeBQM10HDThe_Myth, 16.04 has support untill 2012111:13
SebthreeBQM10HDMonkeyDust,  yep11:13
SebthreeBQM10HDThe_Myth,  standard releases only get 9 months support for quite a few releases now, but used to be 18 months like most other distros11:14
SebthreeBQM10HDsymbls, ......11:19
symblsi am a green hand..11:19
cfhowlettthis is ubuntu --- gardening is somewhere else11:20
symblsi install the sofeware just now, and didn't know how to use until now11:21
SebthreeBQM10HDthe gardening software ok :d11:21
cfhowlett!manual | symbls11:22
ubottusymbls: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:22
AlmoullimCan anyone help me with owncloud11:22
Almoullimi get wrong password when in the intial start page11:23
joni_whats up11:23
yvaHi, I found a bug with the manual installation using ecnrypted disk (not formatted properly). Where should I fill in a report?11:27
piousminionHi, I've added 'ppa:materieller/teamspeak3' and updated apt, but the package(s) don't seem to be available. Ideas?11:28
cfhowlett!bug | yva11:28
ubottuyva: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.11:28
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piousminionThis is maddening. I can see the damn package in the repo, but it won't fetch it. grr11:33
SuperCatIts playing hard to get?11:33
CryptoSiDprobably related to repo priority piousminion11:34
piousminionCryptoSiD: At least I have something to google now. thanks. hehe11:35
piousminionCryptoSiD: changing the priority did nothing. :/11:39
homei need help11:41
j41What with, home?11:42
homemy ubuntu is suffering many problwms11:42
j41Please describe them!11:42
homeroot:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'11:43
homesince iam the root user11:43
homeand this is desktop11:43
Kissamosis it possible to install ubuntu on my samsung galaxy tab 10.5 s?11:43
homej41 are you there11:43
j41home: What are you trying to do when you get this error?11:43
homefor update11:43
homeof archives11:44
j41home: What command do you run?11:44
homesudo apt update11:44
cfhowlettis this YOUR system home?11:44
homeand sudo apt upgrade11:44
j41home: Is it your computer?11:45
MonkeyDusthome  what's the outcome of    whoami11:45
homei am having this problem since i got upgraded to  16.0411:45
homeyes it is my computer11:45
j41home: What is the output of the command    whoami   when run in a terminal?11:46
j41home: Run the command    file /etc/apt/sources.list11:47
j41What does it output?11:47
home/etc/apt/sources.list: cannot open `/etc/apt/sources.list' (No such file or directory)11:48
j41home: That means your sources.list file is missing11:48
cfhowlettsomething very wrong here11:48
homei cannot mount usb or cd rom11:49
MonkeyDusthome  pastebin the outcome of      ls -l /etc/apt/    ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/11:49
homels: cannot access '...': No such file or directory11:49
homels: cannot access 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/': No such file or directory11:49
hometotal 6811:49
homedrwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Dec 28 14:11 apt.conf.d11:49
homedrwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Apr 10  2014 preferences.d11:49
j41home: Please use a pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11:50
MonkeyDusthome  us this webpage http://paste.ubuntu.com/11:50
j41Then tell us the link11:50
j41home: You can tell us the link now11:51
home_link  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23716764/11:52
MonkeyDustand s/he's gone11:56
j41oh well11:57
j41Hopefully they solved their problem11:57
j41Hi, popsound!12:01
BluesKajHappy New Year folks !12:01
popsoundDoes ayone know how to fix speakers pop sound at startup?12:01
popsoundMy laptop's internal speakers work nicely12:01
j41popsound: How bad is the pop? It might just be how your speakers/soundcard works.12:02
popsoundBut external speakers or headset does pop sound every time I boot my laptop12:02
popsoundIt doesnt happen with windows12:02
popsoundBut happens with ubuntu12:02
popsoundHowever it doesnt happen with laptop's built in speaker12:02
popsoundThe pop sound is very bad. It comes with 100% volume12:03
popsoundSo if I have my headset on and forget that it comes then I basically jump.12:03
j41popsound: Is your laptop made by HP?12:08
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j41popsound: It seems to be a known issue with HP laptops12:09
j41popsound: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/37345212:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 373452 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Hp DV5 audio noise" [Low,Expired]12:10
Night_hmm  I'm having issues with dhclient -6 to option IPv6 from my ISP, i have to disable firewall(csf) for it to work, even if i have added ports needed to allow list12:11
Night_anyone have nay ideas?12:11
j41popsound: Maybe you could try some of the fixes in there, eventhough they are for older releases of Ubuntu?12:11
j41popsound: Maybe this will help to: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160882/popping-noise-from-laptop-speakers?rq=112:13
popsoundBtw that's DV5? a model number? THen mine is different..12:13
j41popsound: Try the second link I sent you, maybe the fixes in there will help.12:15
popsound"If you don't have an Intel HDA sound card, you're all done. Otherwise:" How do I know if I have?12:15
MonkeyDustpopsound  lspci12:15
j41popsound: Once you run that command, look for 'Audio device:'12:16
popsoundAudio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 09)12:17
popsoundSo I dont have HDA12:17
popsoundINTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=false didnt help12:18
j41popsound: Did you comment out the line: INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE=${INTEL_AUDIO_POWERSAVE:-true}12:19
BluesKajpopsound,. sudo lshw | grep snd12:20
popsoundj5l: yes12:23
popsoundBluesKaj:             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=012:24
popsound             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=6412:24
popsoundoptions snd-hda-intel power_save=10 didnt help either. whould I replace snd-hda-intel with snd_hda_intel?12:26
BluesKajpopsound, then you have intel hda, but latency is a bit high12:26
popsoundwhat's latency?12:27
BluesKajpopsound, lag12:27
popsoundWhat can I do about it?12:29
popsoundBtw wht laptops work fine with ubuntu? I figured that hibernate is also problematic with hp....12:30
BluesKajwell it's milliseconds, you probly wouldn't notice 64 out of 100012:30
nkr_nouveau.modeset=0 saved my life12:32
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lyzeHello! I've fallen in love with a windows program, called maxto ( https://maxto.net/ ) which basically allows you to define regions on the screen and whenever you maximize windows they'll maximize to those regions instead of fullscreen. Does somebody know if theres a similar program for ubuntu (xfce)?12:42
ikonialyze: I don't think so12:43
ikoniathe desktop works different in linux, there is a tiling window manager, where each region is a "tile"12:44
aryohi guys12:44
aryowhat's fun channet to chat?12:44
j41#ubuntu-offtopic and #freenode12:45
popsoundnkr_: where shall I put nouveau.modeset=0?12:45
lyzeAh thats a bummer, thanks ... c: ikonia12:45
aryohi guys12:45
aryowhat's the fun channel for chat guys?12:46
aryoi'm so lonely12:46
ikoniaaryo: ##chat12:46
ikoniause that channel12:46
aryowhoaa thanks12:46
ddybingThat's a channel for sensible conversations. Pretty sure I won't fit in... :(12:47
j41ddybing: anything goes in #ubuntu-offtopic LO12:47
ikoniaj41: no it doesn't12:47
ddybingFantastic! I need a non-sensible channel ;-)12:48
Turiya[23:44] <Turiya> http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/abc-live-stream/IV1512H001S0012:48
Turiya[23:44] <Turiya> thats the abc nye live stream12:48
Turiya[23:45] <Turiya> only 15 mins until midnight 01-01-201712:48
ikoniaTuriya: we don't need that spam12:48
bumGrub included already in every distribution?12:48
ikoniabum: pretty much every distro will use it as the boot loader12:48
ddybingUnless Canonical sponsored ABC, I don't see the relevance.12:49
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aryo_hi guys12:56
j41Hello aryo_12:56
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j41Hi ddybing!12:57
aryo_nothing to do this new year eve12:57
j41aryo_: Why not install Ubuntu onto everything possible?12:57
ddybingInstall party is the ultimate way to spend your time12:57
ddybingInstall Ubuntu on your mum's laptop, your father's tablet and so on ;)12:58
aryo_ahahahaha they would kill me12:58
j41Install Ubuntu onto your fridge.12:59
ddybingj41: Yeah, why not? Who wouldn't want an open source fridge?12:59
ddybingI would12:59
j41Samsung make fridges with a big screen on (possibly running Android?), why not install Ubuntu onto it?13:00
EriC^open, *Error: you're over your calorie limits, sudo open13:03
bumWifi hdmi Bluetooth also needs driver?13:03
j41EriC^: xD13:03
IamKrilcovI am trying to verify my file i dl'ed, is this the right command? gpg --keyid-format 0xlong --verify tails-i386-2.9.1.iso.sig tails-i386-2.9.1.iso13:05
Ben64IamKrilcov: idk, this is ubuntu support, not tails support13:06
IamKrilcovLol, how do I verify a keyring13:06
IamKrilcovin ubuntu.13:06
MonkeyDustIamKrilcov  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue13:07
Ben64IamKrilcov: check tails support for how to verify their iso13:08
IamKrilcovi dont know what cat /etc/issue means13:08
Ben64IamKrilcov: here i googled for you, have fun https://tails.boum.org/install/download/openpgp/index.en.html13:08
IamKrilcovi have it open, thanks however.13:09
Ben64then unless you have an ubuntu support question, seems this is done13:09
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remix76hi all13:18
remix76Remix OS for PC Version 3.0.207 ubuntu  --  sysrq emergency remount r/o HELp13:18
remix76Remix OS for PC Version 3.0.207 ubuntu  --  sysrq emergency remount r/o HELp13:18
remix76HELP ME !13:18
ikoniaremix76: sorry no13:20
ikoniaremix76: we don't support unoffiical ubuntu releases13:21
remix76ikonia:  ????13:21
MonkeyDustremix76  your OS or distro is not supported here13:22
MonkeyDustremix76  type    /topic13:23
IamKrilcovCan someone direct me, to where I can go to add keyrings or verify stuff using ubuntu?13:23
ikoniaIamKrilcov: add keyrings ? verify stuff ?13:23
remix76MonkeyDust: k13:23
ikoniaIamKrilcov: could you ask a clearer question please13:23
Ben64ikonia: trying to verify tails iso, but the tails page on "how to verify iso" isn't enough apparently13:23
IamKrilcovim new to ubuntu13:24
ikonianot this tails stuff again13:24
ikoniatrying to be anonymous on the internet, yeah ok13:24
Ben64the site says exactly how to do it, i don't see how it's on topic here at all13:24
ikoniait's not13:24
IamKrilcovI thought this was an ubuntu help desk13:24
ikoniait's support for ubuntu13:24
ikoniawhat ubuntu help do you need ?13:24
j41They want to verify a file against a key13:26
The_MythHappy New Year to all! see you around next year! xD13:28
IamKrilcovOk, maybe this is an ubuntu question. How do I import a signing key into my keyring?13:31
ikoniaIamKrilcov: what keyring are you using13:31
IamKrilcovikonia: how do I check?13:32
ikoniaIamKrilcov: you decide which keyring app you want to use13:32
IamKrilcovikonia: I am a newbie, how?13:32
ikoniaIamKrilcov: what is the page you're following13:32
IamKrilcovikonia: https://tails.boum.org/install/download/openpgp/index.en.html13:33
ikoniaIamKrilcov: ok - so you need to pick a keyring app13:34
ikoniathen import that key13:34
ikoniathen verify the iso you're using against that signature13:34
IamKrilcovikonia: whertdo I get that app from? the repository?13:35
ikoniaIamKrilcov: yes13:35
ikoniaIamKrilcov: if you read lower down the page you can see examples13:35
IamKrilcovikonia: i use seahorse13:35
ikoniaIamKrilcov: seahorse what ?13:35
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IamKrilcovikonia: I found the proper helpfile, thank you13:37
ikoniaahh, great13:37
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tuxianoHi, I tried to upgrade my homeserver from 14.04 to 16.04. But now the upgrade process hangs with this error: invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel. Any ideas?14:01
Techno62I am having a problem with the version 16. The computer had version 14 on it. Is it possible that the Version 16 is too much for the computer14:05
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tuxianoTechno62: dont think so, should be another problem14:08
Techno62Ok, well just in case I am downloading Version 14 to try it....The program starts up good but after a while the screen locks up14:09
ikoniayou can't downgrade14:09
ikoniaooh, downloading, I'm sorry14:09
Techno62You can?14:10
Techno62You can't?14:10
ikoniaTechno62: sorry, I thought you said downgrade, not download, apologies14:10
Techno62Maybe its something to do with the graphics card14:11
thereyouareits just got 2017 here14:11
MonkeyDustand you're sober enough to type14:16
thereyouarefireworks are all around area14:17
thereyouareI'm sitting alone in front of PC in IRC14:17
enzotibthereyouare: which country?14:19
thereyouareenzotib: I prefer to stay anonimous14:22
menaceHi, why does nautilus not see 9p filesystems as an qemu-kvm-guest?14:22
menacei can mount it, even automatical via fstab... but there is no mentioning of the passthrough 9p filesystem within syslog/dmesg/journald, but it can be mounted... can someone explain this?14:23
julian2000nlHappy new year @thereyouare!14:26
IamKrilcovikonia: can I msg you a log?14:27
IamKrilcovikonia: I am at the last part.14:28
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N00Bishhow do i get world of warcraft installed and playable on unbuntu?14:39
paalgyulainstall wine than run the launcher of wow14:43
j41Hello waterfall14:47
fearnothingis anyone in here able to help with troubleshooting logging in openldap?14:56
fearnothingI have set an olcLogFile, but nothing's going in to it14:56
paalgyulauhh openldap was my worst decison ever14:57
paalgyulanow we are using opendj14:57
fearnothingI've tried running the ldap binary manually but it just dumps help output and exits, even if I'm running it with the exact same command as is in the systemd service config14:58
fearnothingopenldap is working14:58
fearnothingbut not logging14:58
paalgyulayeah but the acl's pretty hard to set up14:58
vojzzoAnyone here?15:04
cfhowlettvojzzo, ask your ubuntu question15:05
vojzzoWhats the best linux distro for and old pc?15:06
j41vojzzo: In terms of Ubuntu, probably Xubuntu15:06
cfhowlettvojzzo, lubuntu is optimized for legacy hardware.  xubuntu is also worth considering15:06
vojzzoHow much space does xubuntu take up?15:07
cfhowlettvojzzo, basic installation about 5gb15:07
vojzzoAnd lubuntu?15:07
j41!xubuntu | vojzzo15:07
ubottuvojzzo: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with !Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://xubuntu.org/ - To install the Xubuntu environment from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^ » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !xubuntu-channels15:07
j41!lubuntu | vojzzo15:07
ubottuvojzzo: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.15:07
tomreynroughly the same15:08
vojzzook, thanks15:08
bumHow to make live pen drive for lubuntu15:25
bumI downloaded ISO image for lubuntu15:26
j41!usb | bum15:26
ubottubum: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent15:26
bumI already downloaded image15:28
bumWhat's next step15:28
j41Please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick15:29
philipAnyone know where to find the code for a package installed via apt-get? Specifically msttcorefonts, which has a broken link that needs to be updated.15:35
SchrodingersScatphilip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug15:38
liveguys, I got into some serious problem. please help me out.16:06
baizon!ask | live16:06
ubottulive: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:06
gudmund_Should I install Oracle Java 8/9 or Open JRE?16:06
liveI had Lubuntu and Xubuntu installed on my laptop. Dual booting.16:06
baizongudmund_: i personally recommend openjdk16:07
liveXubuntu was installed second.16:07
liveI wanted to remove Xubuntu. So, I logged into lubuntu and deleted the partitions that contained Xubuntu.16:07
lordstogesHey all I have couple of support question? Would anyone happen to have a few free minutes to give a hand?16:08
liveNow not able to boot into Lubuntu.16:08
livesorry for typing my query on multiple lines.16:08
baizonlive: you need to reconfigure grub16:09
baizonlive: you removed the "active" grub16:10
livehow to do that? I am not able to get to the grub menu at all.16:10
Prinz_IRCmanOpen JDK, support Open Source16:10
lordstogesI was recently given a laptop which I installed ubuntu 14.04 on and I was wondering what to put into the terminal to see if it has a working wifi card.16:10
baizonlive: boot into the liveusb and just reinstall grub16:10
liveI don't know. I just deleted the partition that contained Xubuntu.16:10
baizonlive: ubuntu live usb / live cd16:11
liveI have a live usb of debian. Can I use that?16:11
baizonlive: if youre using lubuntu, then take the lubuntu live cd / usb16:11
liveotherwise, I'll have to create a live usb of Ubuntu.16:11
liveok. Need to create one, I think.16:12
baizonlordstoges: http://askubuntu.com/questions/294257/connect-to-wifi-network-through-ubuntu-terminal16:13
baizonlive: but dont format your partition, or all data will be lost16:13
livecan I reinstall grub with this debian live usb I have with me now?16:14
baizonlive: not really, take the same lubuntu you have installed16:14
baizonlive: that will work 100%16:14
liveWill have to create one, then.16:15
baizonlive: i recommend doing that16:15
arunsI am trying to install .Net Core version 1.3 on Ubuntu 16.04 using its DEB package.16:15
arunsBut it tries to install the wrong dependencies?16:16
arunsIt tries to install dev packages for dotnet16:16
livehow to install grub?16:16
arunsI install the Ubuntu 16.04 .deb package from https://www.microsoft.com/net/download/linux16:16
arunsAh wait my bad.16:17
arunsI misread.16:17
baizonlive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows16:17
baizonlive: or this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair16:17
baizonaruns: no problem :)16:18
arunsOh, by the way.16:18
arunsDoes anyone have any recommendations for good 3DS emulators for Linux?16:18
arunsApparently Citra is the best option at the moment.16:18
baizonaruns: https://github.com/citra-emu/citra16:19
arunsbaizon: Yeah, that's what I figured, thanks.16:20
arunsI'm looking to run something like Pokemon X.16:20
arunsNot sure if the emulator's enough of a finished product to run it well yet.16:20
arunsBut oh well, will give it a go.16:20
livebtw, which is more suitable for beginners? Mate or Xfce?16:21
arunsI don't think it's a question of which one is more suitable.16:21
arunsI think it's more a question of do you want something that looks nice but is quite resource intensive.16:22
arunsOr something that is just as nice looking but less harsh on resources.16:22
arunsLike the Unity DE does a lot of 3D graphics rendering.16:22
arunsSo if your graphics card is quite old, might make your machine a bit slow.16:23
baizonlive: xfce imho16:25
arunsHow can I compile C# applications from the command line on Ubuntu?16:31
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)16:31
baizonarno_: i think this is the wrong channel for this question16:31
lgstateis crtmpserver the best "rtmp server streaming" software on ubuntu, or is there something else to use?16:32
arunsI mean compile a simple .cs script16:32
baizonaruns: i think this is the wrong channel for this question. Try #C#16:32
arunsbaizon: OK, thanks.16:33
livearuns, which distro of linux you use?16:42
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rajveerhello this is rajveer kumar17:21
rajveerI am new to linux17:21
cobber2005Hello. I put the IntelliJ IDEA on Ubuntu 16.04, but can find a valid directory to set up the Java JDK.  Does anyone know which folder it's located in?17:21
hadithe command update-grup cant detect the win7 on sda417:22
rajveeryou can find any directory by typing locate folder name in terminal as far as i know17:23
sebsebsebrajveer: hi17:23
cobber2005I did this: cobber2005@cobber2005-X201EP:~$ whereis java17:24
cobber2005java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz17:24
cobber2005cobber2005@cobber2005-X201EP:~$ ls -l /user/bin/java17:24
hadiit is output of "fdisk -l":http://dpaste.com/003X65X17:24
cobber2005Whoops, please ignore my last line17:25
cobber2005But IntelliJ doesn't like those 4 places.17:25
hadiBut "update-grub cant detect win7 on sda4": http://dpaste.com/2PGXFCD17:26
hadiI am picking my hair! I tried a lot to fix the grub and be able to boot to win.17:27
hadiHelp me please17:27
hadiAlso notice that: "Partition table entries are not in disk order." May it be the problem?17:28
OerHekshadi, did you change that hdd to AHCI ?17:29
hadiOerHeks, I dont know17:29
hadiHow can I know?17:29
cobber2005Any IntelliJ user here?17:30
hadiI deleted a partition before installation of ubuntu and then increased the size of win7 partition too17:31
OerHekshadi, you might want to run sudo parted -l  for better output17:31
hadiOerHeks, result of parted: http://dpaste.com/2PE7EWS17:32
hadiOerHeks, the 76GB sda4 is win717:33
OerHeksif normal grub update does not find it, os-prober would. or there is something else going on, ntfs might be dirty, not clean /unmounted17:35
hadiHa! The windows partition was in hibeernated mode before resize17:35
hadiOerHeks, I can mount it read-onl17:35
hadihow could I clean my ntfs partition?17:36
OerHeksoke, this might be your culprit, not sure what to do about that17:36
OerHeksrepair with windows7 iso and reinstall grub after that17:37
hadiOerHeks, I tried to but win7 installer didnt find the win717:38
kushi guys, is it possible to add a persistent folder to my kde neon live usb?17:38
kusIt is a 4GB flash drive17:38
ducassekus: kde neon is not ubuntu, so not supported here.17:39
kus:( it is basically ubuntu with another window management thingie though17:40
ducassekus: still not ubuntu. i think their channel is #kdeneon, try there.17:40
j41kus: Only official Ubuntu flavours are supported here17:40
OerHekskubuntu usb creater should give that option17:41
kusOerHeks: ah I'll take a look thanks17:41
OerHekskus, you might want to check #kubuntu too17:42
kusthanks OerHeks (:17:42
kusthere's no activity on #kdeneon or on #kde-neon sorry to bother you guys17:43
OerHekskus, maybe better luck *next year*17:43
kushaha thanks17:44
klungelevery time i login my laptop suspends? (its on a dockingstation with external monitor)17:44
hadiOerHeks, Even after mounting  win7 partition manually, the "os-prober" still doesn't recognize win7 partition17:44
kusoh btw I wonder if my next question would be off topic. I mean I run Ubuntu on the digital ocean box so it is tangentially related...17:44
kusHi, I have a question about networking. so I have a domain through go daddy and I added an a record for subdomain.domain.tld and pointed it to my digitalocean box I then did ping subdomain.domain.tld but I get which is godaddy's ip address not my digital ocean box. Did I do something wrong? It has been over 24 hours since I added the a record so I assume it should have propagated. Also going to https://subdomain.domain.17:45
kustld gets me to my do box but for some reason http://subdomain.domain.tld doesn't redirect to https. thank you for your help17:45
j41kus: Maybe a question for ##networking ?17:45
OerHekswhen mounting, what error do you get? i think it will contain 3'not clean unmounted' or 'hybernation'in that error17:45
klungelkus: what record type ?17:46
klungelevery time i login my laptop suspends? (its on a dockingstation with external monitor)17:48
j41Hello szymon_g17:50
szymon_ghi j4117:50
j41Do you need any Ubuntu help?17:50
szymon_gaye, sort of17:51
j41What's up?17:51
szymon_gif i'd compile my own kernel from scratch (in debian way), will i have to rebuild nvidia drivers from .run file (downloaded from nvidia) or can i use dkms?17:51
szymon_gi don't have ubuntu ATM, so i cannot check it17:52
j41I don't know, but maybe someone else does!17:52
szymon_ghah, no problemo :)17:52
szymon_gi used to install them (i.e. the drivers) manually, but maybe some nvidia-dkms package could build it for me for the non-standard kernel17:53
kusklungel A record17:53
hadiOerHeks, I cleaned the win7 partition using "remove_hiberfile" flag during the boot17:53
hadiOerHeks, But os-prober still can't detect the win7 on sda417:54
hadiI guess it is a problem of os-prober17:54
szymon_gsda4? it's rather unusual partition to see17:54
szymon_g*an unusual17:54
kusklungel what bothers me is when I ping I get to a godaddy ip address and not my vps ip address so I wonder what I did wrong17:54
hadiszymon_g, Yeah. The number of my partitions is messed17:55
hadiThe partitions are not in the disk order17:55
kusOerHeks: the startup disk creator didn't offer any persistence options :(17:55
kushere's what I used usb-creator-kde/xenial,now 0.3.2 amd64 [installed]17:56
momkenOerHeks: Thank you. This is my second computer. On my first one I was Hadi18:01
momkenI think I messed the win 7 during increasing its size with gparted18:01
xXEoflaOEXxI installed GNOME, to see how the laptop handles GNOME, but when I open anything (settings, etc.), it opened with System program problem detected and when I closed any window, the background turned black, then it logged me out! One thing that I am running on 2 monitors.18:02
j41xXEoflaOEXx: Can you log back in at all?18:02
xXEoflaOEXxj41: Yes, The desktop shows up.18:03
j41xXEoflaOEXx: Does the problem still happen?18:03
momkenIt may be easier to reinstall win7 completely. Thanks to being able to mount win7 partition, I could backup the files on desktop (etc.)18:03
xXEoflaOEXxj41: Yes, in any apps18:04
j41xXEoflaOEXx: Can you turn off/shutdown your computer then turn it back on (but not restart)?18:05
xXEoflaOEXxj41: Yes, I can do it. It turns off successfully and turns on successfully18:07
ducassexXEoflaOEXx: any files in /var/crash?18:07
j41xXEoflaOEXx: Have you done this after installing GNOME? (I meant for you to actually do it)18:08
xXEoflaOEXxducasse, I have seen some crash files for gnome (2)18:09
ducassexXEoflaOEXx: delete them.18:09
xXEoflaOEXxj41, I installed GNOME, then I logged out and switched the session then logged in (to GNOME)18:09
j41xXEoflaOEXx: What I'm trying to say is have you tried turning it off and on again?18:10
xXEoflaOEXxj41, Yes, I turned off and on18:10
j41xXEoflaOEXx: Okay18:10
xXEoflaOEXxj41, and same thing happened18:11
j41xXEoflaOEXx: Have you tried reinstalling GNOME?18:11
xXEoflaOEXxj41, No, I have not.18:11
j41xXEoflaOEXx: Can I suggest you try?18:12
ioriaxXEoflaOEXx, does your laptop handle unity ? what de were you running before ?18:12
xXEoflaOEXxducasse, I deleted them, I will see after restarting18:12
xXEoflaOEXxioria, Yes, It is Unity before I installed GNOME18:12
ioriaxXEoflaOEXx, ok18:13
xanguaxXEoflaOEXx: how did you install gnome?18:13
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: which version of Ubuntu? also do you have any ppa's installled?18:13
xXEoflaOEXxxangua: apt-get install gnome18:13
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb: 16.10, and no ppas18:14
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop may have been a bit better18:14
ideahey , are anyone know ubuntu left click problem , its stopping left clicking after a while18:14
sebsebsebmore full thing18:14
xanguaOr just gnome-shell18:14
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: I guess you can still try this.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop18:14
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: but the system error message, is there an error mesage on it?18:15
ideano error message18:15
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb, It is downloading right now... and the error message it only said System program problem detected18:15
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: ok,  I get that in this install on right now on a lap top, such a mesasge box, but that was after doing certain stuf that yeah broke things a bit. that usaully doens't come up unless something is wrong or sort of wrong18:16
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: anyway ubuntu gnome desktop may fix things a bit more18:17
DatzHi, I'm running a 2560x1440 resolution monitor, but the ubuntu settings default to 1024x768. When I go to adjust the resolution, there are no other available settings. I've tried the proprietary drivers, as well as the nouveau. I'm using a nvidia 970 card. thanks for any help.18:17
ioriaidea cat ~/.xsession-errors18:18
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb, OK, it is downloading right now.18:18
DatzI should add I'm on 16.04, and Mate 1.14.118:21
j41Datz: Have you restarted after installing the drivers?18:24
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Datzj41: yes. I've switched back and forth between drivers a few times, and restarted along the way.18:25
DatzAnother thing I noticed is that the the display manager says the display is "Unknown"18:27
DatzI'm using and HDMI cord for the connection.18:27
j41Datz: Run nvidia-settings18:27
j41Datz: What do you see under GPU-0 (something like DFP-0?)18:28
DatzI only ger application profiles, which is blank, and nvidia-settings configuration which has some unrelated preferences18:30
Datzmaybe I'll try and run it as root.18:30
Datzsame thing,,18:30
j41Datz: Can you see GPU-0 in the list?18:30
DatzI cannot18:30
j41GPU 0*18:30
j41Datz: I'm thinking maybe the drivers aren't installing correctly, or detecting your graphics card18:31
DatzI see.18:31
j41Datz: Are you using the drivers from: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/download/driverResults.aspx/113340/en-us ?18:32
DatzJust using the ones that are available under "additional drivers"18:33
Datzlet me check the version..18:34
j41Datz: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/113340/en-us is a later version18:34
j41Try installing that18:34
Datzok, should I revert back to the nouveau drivers in the addtional drivers settings?18:35
j41Datz: Yes18:35
Datzok, thanks. bbiab18:35
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Datzj41: output from nvidia-settings that I didn't notice at first: https://hastebin.com/gesiyemuwi.vbs18:47
Datzyou're right, looks like the driver isn't installing correctly18:47
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: ins18:51
sebsebsebinstalled now ?18:51
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb, Yes18:55
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: ok tewsted it ?18:56
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: it should have changed your boot up screen to18:56
sebsebsebit will say like ubuntu gnome or something18:56
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx:  but ubuntu gnome is a full meta package, whewre as gnome is just more a baisc one18:57
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: re boot, log  back into gnone, see if the error mewssage comews up etc18:57
sebsebsebcojme back tell me :d18:57
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb, rebooting...18:57
xXEoflaOEXxOne thing, it changed my bootscreen and also a GRUB color, so I assume it installed fine.18:58
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: oh efola is a girls name?18:58
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb, no18:58
sebsebsebit won't touch grub the ubuntu gnome package18:58
sebsebsebprobably change the plymouth boot up theme though to the ubuntu gnome18:59
lasersaberi'm surprised ubuntu doesn't come with inxi installed18:59
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb, Yes, you are right18:59
sebsebsebwhat's inxi ?18:59
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: yeah,thats little stuff but yes you installed a proper thing so18:59
sebsebsebanyway logging in and what happens ?19:00
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb, Logging in...19:00
lasersabersebsebseb, tool to check hardware info19:02
Bashing-omsebsebseb: ^^ See: '  apt show inxi ' .19:04
akiklasersaber: it comes with lshw, though19:05
xXEoflaOEXxsebsebseb, Thanks, it fixed my problem19:06
sebsebsebxXEoflaOEXx: good, I guess just partial stuff installed then before, not quite everything that should have been really etc19:11
j41xXEoflaOEXx: You've fixed it?19:13
sebsebsebj41: yeah seems isntallkg ubuntu-gnome-desktop fixed it19:14
j41sebsebseb: Ah, makes sense :P19:14
sebsebsebj41: it has more in it, gnome  is more basic19:14
sebsebsebgnome is just upstrema stuff I guess19:14
Datzj41: thanks for your help, the new driver works a treat.19:15
j41Datz: Awesome19:15
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lasersaberhow do i pipe my output to a pastebin url?19:43
baizonlasersaber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit19:44
Sean_McGI think there is a pastebin tool you can download -- not sure if it is packaged for Debian/Ubuntu though... ah, yeah that's the one19:44
* Sean_McG is upgrading from trusty -> xenial now, wish me luck!19:45
OerHeks<command> | nc termbin.com 999919:45
lasersaberbaizon, thanks19:45
xXEoflaOEXxj41, yes19:45
lasersaberbaizon, works! :)19:46
ubottutotoo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:59
kode54not the first italian user I've seen popping into the first channel they could think of, saying ciao a tutti and !list20:03
kode54the 1990s called, they want their illicit file transmission methods back20:04
Random832i've accidentally deleted /usr/bin and /sbin - what's the best way to recover from this without reinstalling20:13
Random832like i know that i have to reboot to a live cd because sudo is gone but beyond that20:14
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kode54Random832: http://askubuntu.com/questions/191942/deleted-all-the-files-in-usr-bin-typing-in-rm-rf20:19
kode54that may be helpful20:19
kode54install debootstrap on the livecd20:19
kode54then mount your root and any other filesystems you usually mount under it20:19
kode54then debootstrap the mounted root20:19
kode54you should be able to chroot into it after that20:20
kode54you'll need to mount --rbind /dev, /proc, and /sys into it20:20
kode54then chroot /mnt /bin/bash --login20:20
kode54then you should be able to follow the parts of that askubuntu page to query which packages you need to reinstall20:21
kode54assuming debootstrap doesn't completely clobber the package database of a target20:21
kode54let me see20:21
lasersaberhow do i change my panel's width?20:26
j41lasersaber: Change them back to default or just change them?20:27
lasersaberchange my panel or taskbar width20:28
j41lasersaber: Does this help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157321/can-i-set-a-custom-horizontal-width-for-a-gnome-panel20:28
j41Hello MSF20:30
lasersaberj41, we'll see. thanks.20:30
MSFCan someone gain a shell on a system if they can dns spoof a network?20:31
wedgieMSF: by itself, probably not. But it would allow allow them to run many other attacks that could lead to a shell.20:33
lasersabernever mind i found what i need :) http://www.noobslab.com/2016/04/macbuntu-1604-transformation-pack-for.html20:35
Toba_I'm on 16.04 LTS & I'm getting "held back" messages for some pretty important packages.20:37
xXEoflaOEXxToba_, Use dapt-get dist-upgrade20:38
j41Toba_: You could also try: apt-get install <names of packages kept back>20:39
Stinky-FeetToba_: Or if you are like me and prefer arguments that sound better: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade20:41
kode54I prefer safe-upgrade or something similar on this one VPS I have20:41
kode54currently running mailinabox on it, and that still requires 14.0420:42
xXEoflaOEXxToba_, How about sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? It will force these packages to upgrade20:42
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Toba_oh thanks I'm trying the intsall one20:53
Toba_I don't want to distupgrade because I might end up on an non LTS version20:53
Bashing-om!dist-upgrade | Toba_20:54
ubottuToba_: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.20:54
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Toba_oh. I misunderstood that for *years* based on a complete assumption. Wow.20:55
* Toba_ puts on dunce cap, returns to dunce corner20:55
Toba_my stuff is cleanly up to date now and working just fine, thanks :)20:56
Bashing-omToba_: All a process of learning :) We are all at some point on that curve .20:56
wedgieToba_: don't feel bad. The naming on that *is* rather confusing20:57
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Toba_wedgie: thanks21:01
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Herbalistquiet today22:01
Herbalistirie new year all22:01
The_MythHappy New Year folks (if you already reach it, otherwise, wishes of one)22:08
j41hi sebsebseb22:12
sebsebsebj41: hi22:12
j41sebsebseb: hi22:12
deus_nick deus40222:16
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deus402trying to get xdrp working on 16.04 and having some problems. I followed this guide: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=9962 but i'm stuck when trying to actually connect. I get the xrdp login, but in the connection log it says: "receiving server init /n error - problem connecting" here is my .xsession-errors log, which i don't really understand: http://pastebin.com/cKjkw93022:22
deus402also, for the record, i'm trying to connect across the internet from another 16.04 system.22:24
goose1Hey everyone, my mouse keeps not wanting to right click and I cant figure out how to fix it22:25
goose1Itll work for a bit, then just shit out on me22:25
goose1I've tried $ sudo rmmod usbhid and $ sudo modprobe usbhid22:26
sintreuse the mouse on another system and see if does it there22:26
goose1That solves it for a bit but then it comes back22:26
goose1sintre: it works fine on other systems22:26
goose1and works fine sometimes on Ubuntu (GNOME 16.04)22:26
sintrewifi , blutooth mouse or wired22:27
goose1usb wired22:27
goose1Steelseries Rival 30022:27
sintrehmm odd , only thing i can think of is something is binding that key to somethign else for some reason22:27
sintreand after a time delay to boot22:28
goose1Like it is somewhat working now, but cant minimize some stuff, other times it just turns in the I-Line and just doesnt do anything besides move22:28
sintrehave a different mouse to try?22:28
goose1nah unfortunately not22:28
sintrethen you'll know its something with system22:28
sintrei'd buy or borrow one when you can , that way narrow culprit down22:29
goose1I keep running rmmod and modprobe to fix temproarily but thats not a viable solution22:29
goose1hmm may try that22:29
goose1I saw a few other people around having similar issues on 16.0422:29
sintreall packages up to date?22:30
goose1And all other USB devices, like dongles, wifi adapter, my usb KB are working fine22:30
goose1Itll just come back randomly and not work all of a sudden. Been driving me nuts22:30
sintreno clue never had to trouble shoot a wired mouse , odd problem22:31
sintrevery anooying one i bet as well22:31
goose1Yeah I havent had to before either haha22:31
goose1Its just weird, running those 2 makes it work, then a few minutes later I get RIP mouse22:32
sintreyes , one thing you expect to work is your mouse lol22:33
goose1At least my KB works fine or id be screwed22:33
sintreyea, well look at it as training for using shortcuts hehe22:33
sintreuntil you can solve this riddle22:33
goose1Its just confusing, like it will always move, but sometimes stay as the I-beam, then not click22:34
goose1But always move22:34
sintrei'd check new mouse on current system and old mouse longe on a different22:35
sintreif you have a gaming mouse with lots of buttons maybe some software is getting confused on what to do with it22:35
goose1Well its always working fine on my Win10 partition22:35
goose1Nah its just a simple little Gaming mouse22:36
goose1Maybe I can grab drivers from SS22:36
sintreyea if its not simple three but with a wheel mouse , trying to get some new driver smight help22:36
goose1Yeah no drivers for Linux on site, hopefully some FOSS ones out there22:37
goose1Anyone know how to show displayed host on weechat?22:38
CoderEuropegoose1: You could try here: https://plus.google.com/communities/10418130277841696010722:39
goose1CoderEurope: thanks22:41
goose1I THINK i may have figured it out22:46
CoderEuropehttps://redd.it/5aw0ba goose1 checkout this (and other :) ) subreddits for help etc ... medium/long term.22:46
goose1CoderEurope: Thanks! im a really active redditor, but never found that one22:47
goose1Ah linux22:47
CoderEuroperight goose1 - well post a link you've done & I shall reply :)22:48
goose1I think my headset dongle being plugged in may have messed with ti22:48
goose1Yeah that may have done it. Working fine now22:50
OerHeksHappy New Year !23:00
GNUtooHi, is there a way to add a file inside the initramfs?23:11
deus402trying to get xrdp working between two 16.04 machines across the internet. I followed this guide: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=9962 but when i try to connect i get these errors: http://pastebin.com/cKjkw93023:12
GNUtooI'm trying to do a fully encrypted rootfs, and I want to add the key inside the initramfs23:12
GNUtooI found how to add a script to unlock the partition, but I hope there is an easier way than that23:12
Eduard_MunteanuGNUtoo, any reason why you need the key inside the initramfs?23:15
HerbalistIrie New Year Everybody23:15
tomreynprobably to decrypt /boot and /23:15
GNUtooEduard_Munteanu: not to type the passphrase twice with GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y in /etc/default/grub23:16
[_]`when i boot, it never fully loads and stops at gray screen.. it says loading stuff this and that but never make it to the starting screen. it's the os in my other partition23:16
GNUtooHappy new year too23:16
tomreynGNUtoo: i'm not really sure but i *think* anything in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ goes into the initrd23:17
Herbalistwhy you looka so sad23:17
[_]`is there something i can do abouot this? maybe delete some filed so it forces OS to reconfigre or w/e so it starts?23:17
GNUtootomreyn: thanks23:17
tomreynGNUtoo: better check how it's done, don't rely on me there23:18
GNUtooI'll try with cpio -idv and so on23:18
GNUtoo*I'll check with cpio -idv and so on23:18
GNUtooelse I'll have to read all the initramfs scripts, but I don't even know how it works, so the learning curve is a bit high23:18
user_user_Hello, I need some help with nivdia drivers and boot issues.23:27
sn9yesterday, i rebooted after a long uptime on trusty, applying a bunch of updates incidentally, including bringing the kernel from -101 to -106, and today i notice that ever since, ethernet does not work anymore. i want to be able to fix this without rebooting again. thanx23:27
user_user_I cannot boot outside of recovery-mode because the keyboard isn't available for typing the crypt passphrase when the non-foss nvidia drivers are enabled.23:28
sn9lspci: -d: Invalid device ID23:28
sn900:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1502] (rev 04)23:29
GNUtootomreyn: it didn't work, but I found that there is some documentation in /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz, I missed that while doing dpkg -L before23:31
GNUtooso I'll read the documentaiton23:31
tomreynGNUtoo: good luck. there are a couple guides on FDE incl. /boot on the web, but, apprently like most people, i've been too lazy to set it up so far, mostly because of the aparent maintenance overhead. it surely would be nice to have it better integrated into the system, though.23:32
OerHeksGNUtoo, maybe post #4 is your fix too, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232622323:34
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tomreyn... so that it would be just a metter of maybe installing a setup helper package. but i can imagine its no fun to test this stuff in many scenarios, and to get it stable, covering them all.23:36
GNUtooOerHeks: My goal is to have luks+lvm encrypted without /boot without needing to enter the password twice (in grub and in the initramfs)23:37
user_user_@GNUtoo have you come across encryption password not being accepted due to keys not typing?23:38
GNUtoouser_user_: no, I want LUKS + LVM without /boot, and I used GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK in /etc/default/grub for that, it works fine but then it asks for the password twice23:43
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jcjordyn120c_smith, welcome fellow LGC member xD23:51
c_smithjcjordyn120, I'd recommend keeping chat on-topic here.23:51
jcjordyn120c_smith, why?23:52
c_smiththis is a support channel, not a chit-chat channel. for chit-chat, there's #ubuntu-offtopic23:52
jcjordyn120ah okay23:52
sn9it's support when someone responds23:52
c_smithsn9 true, it's new years eve, so not many people using their computers I'd guess23:53
c_smithbut still, I'd rather not run the risk of anyone getting banned23:53
c_smithor kicked23:53
sn9as for my issue, i already tried removing and reprobing e1000e, still doesn't work, although the spew in dmesg changed23:53
sn9googling is no help23:54
Sean_McGmy upgrade, did not go so good :(23:54
Sean_McGI think I have it under control now. Lesson learned was to definitely remove any packages from other PPAs23:54
Sean_McGI got burnt by ubuntu-toolchain-r/test23:55

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