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| [Relic] | I can get seperate X screens (one on each monitor) but I can't get each screen to operate independantly and each have essentially a full kubuntu session running at once. Would changing sddm to lightdm make that possible or is it some other component that is stopping me? | 01:33 |
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| sentre | [Relic] just me again wish i could help , i think we're both gonna have to go direxctly to the kde developers thru forums or bug reports or something | 01:35 |
| sentre | my problem isn't fixable either :( | 01:35 |
| [Relic] | what is yours? | 01:36 |
| sentre | gonna wait till 5.8.5 lands on backports | 01:36 |
| sentre | can't get unified outputs to display in correct resolution for each display | 01:36 |
| [Relic] | I remember that | 01:36 |
| sentre | so if main is 1900/x whatever and notebook is 1333 x what ever one or the othewr is useless | 01:36 |
| sentre | so make using duel monitors freakin useless lol | 01:37 |
| [Relic] | so cloning display on two different resolutions doesn't work well | 01:37 |
| sentre | doesn't work at alol | 01:38 |
| sentre | plus the extended display is freakin anoying | 01:38 |
| sentre | to me atleast | 01:38 |
| sentre | pick one monitor as main , then all window jump and and max on main , but all functions are avaailable tgthe real desktop on secondary? | 01:39 |
| sentre | um who thought that one up :) | 01:39 |
| sentre | not to mention no capability to project a screen thru wifi | 01:39 |
| sentre | i just think duel support is like back of list atm | 01:39 |
| sentre | not sure why sinse almost everything short of a pi pc comes with hsmi out now atleast | 01:40 |
| sentre | if they worked on duel monitor config they way the do on windows config , kde would be light years ahead of alot of distros | 01:41 |
| sentre | i mean sizing reshaping affects ect. now windows os :) | 01:42 |
| sentre | not windows | 01:42 |
| sentre | the os | 01:42 |
| jack | Trying to update from 16.04 to 16.10 followed instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu when I go to upgrade it does nothing | 04:57 |
| jack | I enteredsudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE | 04:58 |
| jack | I entered sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE manually | 04:58 |
| jack | and got the error FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/ubuntu-release-upgrader/fetch-progress.ui' | 04:58 |
| jack | how can this be fixed? | 04:58 |
| [Relic] | is that the one that needs the -> This can be fixed by installing the package ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt via Discover/Muon or another package manager. Or alternatively by installing in Konsole or other terminal application with 'sudo apt install ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt'. | 05:04 |
| [Relic] | jack, if you don't have that package installed like it says on that page it can prevent the upgrade | 05:05 |
| sintre | happy new year all | 05:05 |
| [Relic] | or if you are on your third+ drink, hippie nude deer | 05:06 |
| sintre | jack > update , then upgrade everything you can | 05:07 |
| sintre | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 05:07 |
| sintre | sudo do-release-upgrade | 05:07 |
| [Relic] | the error he shows means the upgrader wasn't installed | 05:08 |
| sintre | how did that happen? | 05:08 |
| sintre | ok probally a question we don't wanna try to find tonight lol | 05:08 |
| jack | lol. | 05:08 |
| jack | thanks guys | 05:08 |
| jack | going to reset pc | 05:09 |
| [Relic] | best guess it was LTS and people didn't put it in the LTS | 05:09 |
| sintre | i use lts and its in lts | 05:09 |
| sintre | well guess we'll never get to bototm of that one | 05:09 |
| [Relic] | first time I did 16.04 to 16.10 it wasn't there | 05:09 |
| sintre | well i was coming from backported upgraded 16.04 last time i did that upgrade | 05:10 |
| sintre | so maybe its not be default | 05:10 |
| [Relic] | kwin | 05:29 |
| dorothy | Hi, for some reason the network symbol from the status bar of my Kubuntu 16.10 vanished that I am unable to connect to WiFi through GUI. How can I reset the status bar so that the network symbol in status bar reappears? | 05:30 |
| sintre | go to settings | 05:31 |
| sintre | ksry had to much to trouble shoot this of top of my head | 05:33 |
| sintre | mean drink | 05:33 |
| sintre | give me a minute to think lol | 05:33 |
| dorothy | sintre: talking to me? | 05:33 |
| sintre | yea hope you ignored me :) | 05:33 |
| sintre | was gonna follow that up with a how to but distracted atm :) | 05:34 |
| sintre | plus i'm using 16.04 lts so problally not best to help with this one | 05:35 |
| dorothy | sintre: I just need a gui to connect to WiFi. wpa_cli is not working well | 05:37 |
| sintre | you lost connection editor somehow correct? | 05:38 |
| dorothy | sintre: Yes which you see in system tray | 05:38 |
| sintre | i'm in it now but can figure out its name to activate it , has a setting to add to try | 05:39 |
| sintre | so finding it if i can | 05:39 |
| sintre | ok i'm drunk now officall | 05:41 |
| sintre | right click on desktop | 05:41 |
| sintre | then go to widgets | 05:41 |
| sintre | look fr widget that says connection | 05:41 |
| sintre | thats the manager | 05:41 |
| sintre | drag and drop where you want it | 05:42 |
| sintre | of course last place i'd look for it :) | 05:42 |
| dorothy | sintre: Have searched there. No widget called connection | 05:43 |
| sintre | sorry it says networks | 05:43 |
| sintre | again been long night :) | 05:43 |
| dorothy | sintre: I have tried those keywords. Only "Network Monitor" shows up | 05:44 |
| sintre | no do't use key words in krunner | 05:45 |
| sintre | right click on disktop then click add widget | 05:45 |
| dorothy | sintre: Yes, I am talking about widget part itself | 05:45 |
| sintre | then go find the icon that says networks | 05:45 |
| sintre | click on it then drag to deskktop | 05:45 |
| sintre | then click on it again | 05:46 |
| dorothy | sintre: Nada. Not there | 05:46 |
| sintre | its there but in the lil box the widgets pop up it may not have an icon | 05:47 |
| sintre | until you drag it and place it on desktop | 05:48 |
| sintre | its probally by notes if that helps | 05:49 |
| dorothy | I am 16.10 | 05:49 |
| dorothy | No such widget | 05:49 |
| dorothy | I am on* | 05:49 |
| sintre | well i am using 16.04 , but upgraded , i can't imagine it not having a widget | 05:50 |
| sintre | if you haven't solved you problem i'll update a different pc | 05:50 |
| [Relic] | called system tray in 16.10 | 05:50 |
| [Relic] | system tray settings | 05:51 |
| sintre | tomorrow when i'm sober enough lol , thx relic | 05:51 |
| [Relic] | usually shows the triangle the speaker and the scissors | 05:51 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: I dragged system tray, it's without network management icon | 05:51 |
| sintre | ok screw new solution | 05:52 |
| sintre | take curour to right or left o screen | 05:52 |
| sintre | then right click and say add panel select default panel | 05:53 |
| [Relic] | right click and call up the system tray settings and make sure network is checked | 05:53 |
| sintre | ssee if that gives you one | 05:53 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: There is no Network option either in hidden menu nor in configuration | 05:53 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: For System Tray widget | 05:54 |
| dorothy | sintre: Yes, have done that as well. Nothing. It's again with network icon | 05:54 |
| sintre | i jsut gave myself three panels around entire border all came with them hmm | 05:55 |
| dorothy | Even tried direct ethernet connection, not working directly | 05:55 |
| dorothy | Something is messed up on network level | 05:55 |
| [Relic] | so when you right click on that and bring up the system tray settings general categories has 5 selections, then below that in extra items the 3rd item here is Networks | 05:56 |
| dorothy | System Tray Settings > General > Categories - no network option here. Then Extra Items - no network option here as well | 05:57 |
| dorothy | I have done all this | 05:57 |
| [Relic] | that section scrolls, but it should be there | 05:58 |
| sintre | i believe you dorothy > but this is a head scratcher | 05:58 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: Yes, I checked it thoroughly | 05:59 |
| sintre | that even making new default panel won't bring up network config in the panel | 05:59 |
| [Relic] | weird thought but have you just tried a reboot and see if it shows up? | 05:59 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: Yep. Nothing even after multiple reboots | 05:59 |
| dorothy | Even connecting to WiFi through cli is failing | 06:00 |
| dorothy | Kernel module for WiFi is loaded already | 06:00 |
| dorothy | wpa_cli is failing | 06:00 |
| dorothy | No GUI | 06:00 |
| sintre | update and upgrade everything? | 06:01 |
| dorothy | sintre: How will I update and upgrade? lol | 06:01 |
| dorothy | There is no network connection | 06:01 |
| sintre | if not network how are you talking to us | 06:01 |
| dorothy | I am chatting through another system | 06:01 |
| sintre | well honestly even sober i wouldn't know where to go from here | 06:02 |
| dorothy | Yeah, even I am thinking what to do | 06:03 |
| sintre | well go nuclear aka reinstall | 06:03 |
| sintre | after you back up | 06:03 |
| dorothy | Ah ni | 06:03 |
| dorothy | Ah no | 06:03 |
| sintre | decide if its easier than trying to trouble shoot this | 06:03 |
| sintre | well thats up for you to decide of course | 06:04 |
| sintre | well tomorrow alot more people will probally be around | 06:06 |
| sintre | hopefully they can come up with a solution for you | 06:07 |
| dorothy | There must be a qdbus command to trigger network management window | 06:07 |
| sintre | well why the widet itself decided to disapear from your entire os is well stranger | 06:08 |
| dorothy | yes | 06:08 |
| sintre | sudo start network-manager | 06:09 |
| [Relic] | system settings -> network (settings or connectivity) do anything? | 06:09 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: I could not see option to connect to WiFi through System Settings>Network anywhere | 06:10 |
| sintre | is it possible you have a laptop with wifi fn+ key you may of hit and disabled wifi by acident? | 06:11 |
| dorothy | sintre: uh what. command not found" | 06:11 |
| dorothy | sintre: Nope, tried | 06:11 |
| dorothy | Even ethernet is not working directly | 06:12 |
| dorothy | USB tethering is not working | 06:12 |
| dorothy | The entire network system seems to have been affected | 06:12 |
| dorothy | ifconfig shows fine | 06:12 |
| sintre | well sound like something went really wrong with your install at this point | 06:12 |
| dorothy | It's not a fresh install | 06:13 |
| dorothy | Using this version since launch | 06:13 |
| sintre | well up to you to decide how many hours you want to mess with trying to fix this | 06:13 |
| sintre | its not normall | 06:13 |
| [Relic] | system setting -> start up shut down -> background services is network status checked and running in the startup services box? | 06:13 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: Okay, this I didn't try. Hold on | 06:14 |
| [Relic] | also plasmanetwork management module | 06:14 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: Okay, System Settings>Workspace section > Startup and Shutdown > Background Services > Startup Services section - Network Proxy Configuration and Network Status are working | 06:16 |
| dorothy | Running that is | 06:16 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: Now about plasmanetwork management module, where is it? | 06:16 |
| [Relic] | two down from the one above usually | 06:16 |
| [Relic] | plasma networmanagement module | 06:17 |
| dorothy | Under Startup Services itself? | 06:17 |
| [Relic] | yep | 06:17 |
| [Relic] | should be right under notification helper | 06:17 |
| dorothy | Nothing by that name. Only Power Management and Print Manager starts with letter P | 06:18 |
| [Relic] | in that bottom scroll box | 06:18 |
| dorothy | Yes, there itself | 06:18 |
| [Relic] | should be right above print manager | 06:19 |
| dorothy | Only two things starting with letter P | 06:19 |
| sintre | mine is right above print manager and right below notification helper | 06:19 |
| dorothy | Yeah, missing here | 06:20 |
| dorothy | Something really got messed up | 06:20 |
| sintre | ok dorthory something went wrong somewhere | 06:20 |
| sintre | really need to back up and thnk about fresh install | 06:20 |
| sintre | the time we've been troubleshooting this you could of done a fresh install already | 06:21 |
| [Relic] | libkf5networkmanagerqt6 installed? | 06:21 |
| sintre | love to help but were going in circles | 06:21 |
| dorothy | [Relic]: already installed but it;s asking to install resolvconf | 06:23 |
| dorothy | I remember comming across resolvconf before [Relic] | 06:23 |
| [Relic] | I am hardwired here so no idea :) | 06:24 |
| dorothy | Thanks for your time and help sintre and [Relic] | 06:25 |
| sintre | np , wish i could of been more use | 06:25 |
| sintre | but honestly just for peace of mind i'd reinstall at this point | 06:25 |
| sintre | if it were me facing this problem | 06:26 |
| sintre | to each there own though | 06:26 |
| sintre | happy new year btw dorothy and [Relic] :) | 06:27 |
| Noor_egy | hello i did made mistake i did sudo chmod 777 -R / which gived write permission to alot of my system files | 06:56 |
| Noor_egy | now when i try to build some application it gives some errors when i asked they told me that its because the user dont have execution permission even when i used sudo | 06:57 |
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| BluesKaj | Happy New Year everyone | 12:38 |
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| hay207 | Hi, i get alsa errors when trying to run a steam game, Here 's console output: | 16:24 |
| hay207 | http://pastebin.com/pa8vLUe8 | 16:25 |
| Vincent45 | Happy new years! | 19:32 |
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| user|86137 | hello. | 21:49 |
| stav | Hi ! Anyone there? | 21:49 |
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| nuxmuncher | Hlloooo? | 21:49 |
| user|86137 | Yes, hello. | 21:49 |
| Nytram | I am, but I'm probably not going to be of much help. ;) | 21:49 |
| user|86137 | Is there someone who would able to help< | 21:50 |
| Nytram | You need to ask the question first. | 21:50 |
| user|86137 | With Kubuntu 16.04 LTS | 21:50 |
| user|86137 | boots only to tty | 21:50 |
| user|86137 | not loading the KDE plasma gui | 21:51 |
| nuxmuncher | getting an error message with ubuntu lo memory in root filesystem... happens after running bleachbit... can someone here assist? | 21:51 |
| nuxmuncher | specifically: "the-volume-filesystem-root-has-only-0-bytes-disk-space-remaining" | 21:52 |
| Nytram | user|86137 probably a gfx driver issue. | 21:53 |
| user|86137 | no, it worked fine | 21:55 |
| Nytram | I have stopped using bleachbit for that exact same reason. | 21:55 |
| user|86137 | i upgraded to plasma 5.8 via ppa backports | 21:55 |
| Nytram | There are certain items you can "turn off" to work around the issue but it isn't a fix. | 21:56 |
| user|86137 | did not work well, so i downgraded | 21:56 |
| nuxmuncher | so I lets ubuntu run 'free like willy' ? | 21:56 |
| user|86137 | and it does not work since | 21:56 |
| nuxmuncher | no maintenance whatsoever | 21:56 |
| nuxmuncher | ? | 21:56 |
| nuxmuncher | apt-get clean is enough from time to time? | 21:56 |
| user|86137 | what does apt/get clean do | 21:58 |
| Nytram | I always use the propriatary nvidia drivers so I'm not sure how well plasma works with the free driver | 21:58 |
| nuxmuncher | ... just switched my production box from winbloze to ubuntu (finally) so I'm unfamilar with many 'workings'.. trying to avoid any curveballs in this respect | 21:58 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | Maksim Muruev was added by: Maksim Muruev | 21:58 |
| nuxmuncher | can anyone recommend 'best practice' for same? | 21:58 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <Maksim Muruev> Hello, I've got | 21:59 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <Maksim Muruev> problem with sound system | 21:59 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <Maksim Muruev> Basically I have multimedia monitor with HDMI and internal sound card, also BT headphones. And I want flexible and easy way switch between those devices. | 22:00 |
| Nytram | When I feel I need to run Bleachbit I let it run overnight and simply kill the process in the morning. I always stalls with one minute remaining. | 22:01 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <Maksim Muruev> For now I have my monitor and internal sound card as ONE device?! Why? In ubuntu HDMI shows as separated. Also sound volume control stop work for 'master'' when I do switch. | 22:02 |
| nuxmuncher | ...so bleachbit perpetually broken? | 22:03 |
| Nytram | Last I looked it was. | 22:03 |
| nuxmuncher | is there any other way to gage overall box health? | 22:03 |
| nuxmuncher | *automatic* way | 22:03 |
| Nytram | I wouldn't want to automatically run something like bleachbit. | 22:04 |
| nuxmuncher | ... so just 'shotgun maintenance' is what you recommend? | 22:04 |
| Nytram | Safest way I work is to use one drive or partition to do your work in and purge it periodically. | 22:05 |
| nuxmuncher | fair play... what's best practice for periodic backup? | 22:06 |
| nuxmuncher | ? please splain "purge it" | 22:06 |
| Nytram | I run a chron script using rsync | 22:07 |
| nuxmuncher | gots 1x ssd drive, 2x hd drive and one external hd drive (archive & backup) | 22:08 |
| nuxmuncher | gots virtualbox running a win10 instance on ssd drive (i like it snappy) with loads of ram.. | 22:08 |
| nuxmuncher | and I have servers runing on one of the hd drives... so I 'work' on two drives | 22:09 |
| Nytram | Don't confuse the linux purge command with what I said. What I meant was to back up important stuff and simply format the partition and start again. If you need deeper deletion I can't help you. ;0 | 22:09 |
| nuxmuncher | ... so chron scripts with rsync for work drives... and deal with any other issues "as they break"... is this normally how ubuntu linux users run? | 22:13 |
| nuxmuncher | nothing more proactive? | 22:13 |
| nuxmuncher | ...preventative? | 22:14 |
| Nytram | Don't judge ubuntu users here and now by the answers you get here and now. I for one am rather drunk, but feeling in a helpful mood. There are many answers to your question, but I for one am not able to help. I trust myself to know when a backup needs to happen and I trust myself not to do anything that requires data to be purged. Sorry. | 22:18 |
| nuxmuncher | sorry.. i didn't mean to imply any judgement whatsoever | 22:23 |
| nuxmuncher | sincere apologies if that's what it seemed like | 22:24 |
| nuxmuncher | just trying to determine 'best practice' for maintentance and backup | 22:25 |
| nuxmuncher | sincerely sorry if I caused anyone to feel judged or offended | 22:34 |
| nuxmuncher | I guess I'll search elsewhere | 22:38 |
| nuxmuncher | thanks anyway | 22:38 |
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| omarramo | hey guys | 22:49 |
| omarramo | is there a way to disable mouse accel via ui? it only goes down to 0.1 x on my system | 22:49 |
| Nytram | Can't you click in the box and manually enter a number? (Sorry, I'm on Mint atm) | 22:52 |
| omarramo | yup but you cant press accept | 22:53 |
| Nytram | Oh! Let me look | 22:53 |
| omarramo | really weird, why would they not let you disable mouse accel | 22:53 |
| Nytram | Nope.. seems to be a KDE thing. 0.1 is the minimum | 22:55 |
| omarramo | Nytram: seems like the best you can get via ui is setting the threshhold to 0 which would still be polynomial acceleration | 23:00 |
| Nytram | Not that I'd ever need to go there, but yeah, seems you're right. | 23:03 |
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