[00:00] <sepehr> Hey EveryBody?
[00:00] <zerorax> using swap creates a huge decrease in performance
[00:00] <FrostyBytes> hi sepehr!
[00:00] <genewitch> zerorax: depends
[00:00] <genewitch> zerorax: depends on if OOM crashes decrease performance more
[00:00] <zerorax> I have 8gb ram, and don't use swap, but I don't do anything that ever requires more than 8gb ram
[00:00] <ic2000> genewitch: doesn't seem like it worked
[00:00] <genewitch> zerorax: try compiling libreoffice
[00:01] <FrostyBytes> zerorax: using swap can also create a huge decrease in OOMs and outright freezes
[00:01] <Exterminador> zerorax: but when i installed Xubuntu it said it's better to use swap
[00:01] <genewitch> ic2000: lsusb says no firmware still?
[00:01] <Exterminador> wth?
[00:01] <zerorax> genewitch, like I said _I_ don't do anything that requires more
[00:01] <k1l_> Exterminador: using swap is very slow. compare the speed of ram with the speed of a hdd.
[00:01] <ic2000> genewitch: yeah still says  no firmware
[00:01] <zerorax> lots of people need more than 8gb ram... those people should buy more ram
[00:01] <sdasda> snowstorm please help me im desperate
[00:01] <FrostyBytes> your system reliability will still be higher if you have some swap enabled as headroom
[00:01] <genewitch> zerorax: i don't have a lawn, therefore no one needs a lawnmower
[00:01] <snowstorm> sdasda: when restarting you are sure it does from the live installation usb drive?
[00:01] <sepehr> i have 8 gigs of ram . i also have 20 gb of swap space , im running backtrack + mac os sierra and mean while im using ubuntu
[00:01] <deus_> having some trouble with a renaming script. what i am trying to do is rename all avi files in list of directory after the directory that they are in. here is what i have, but it is not working as expected: find . -type d -not -empty -exec echo mv  \{\}/*.avi \{\}.avi \;\ results: nothing actually gets renamed. here is the output: http://pastebin.com/vaJfesZY but it isn't actually moving anything.
[00:01] <Exterminador> zerorax: but is swap used anytime, if not needed?
[00:01] <sdasda> snowstorm i dont know what that means, how do i check?
[00:02] <k1l_> Exterminador: swap is a backup if the ram is full. and its needed if you want to use hibernation (suspend2disk)
[00:02] <snowstorm> sdasda are you using this computer at this moment?
[00:02] <zerorax> Exterminador, there is a setting somewhere called swapiness, which tells linux how much to rely on swap, if you set it to a certain value it will only use swap when memory is full
[00:02] <genewitch> ic2000: oh ok
[00:02] <sdasda> snowstorm im talking to you through my other computer
[00:03] <Exterminador> i see
[00:03] <sepehr> Guys is Using IRC Safe ?
[00:04] <Exterminador> now, how do i do a check to my hdd via smartmontools?
[00:04] <snowstorm> sdasda: make sure your computer boots from the usb either by setting boot order in bios or by choosing boot device during post
[00:04] <zerorax> sepehr, safe for what?
[00:04] <Exterminador> sepehr: nowadays nothing is safe. govs spies all your data
[00:04] <GroundZero1> sepehr, yes
[00:04] <Exterminador> :x
[00:04] <GroundZero1> sepehr, it is encrypted
[00:04] <papa_> grub-install
[00:04] <snowstorm> sepehr: might wanna use tails
[00:05] <sepehr> GroundZero1 What about the fact that any body can see my ip address ?
[00:05] <eskatrem> Bashing-om: ok, somehow I installed xfce4 and then I managed to make it work (with xfce4), thanks a lot for your help
[00:05] <GroundZero1> sepehr, who said that? i cant see your ip adress
[00:05] <GroundZero1> sepehr, i think the admin of the channel can't either
[00:05] <genewitch> ic2000: what version of ubuntu
[00:05] <sepehr> GroundZero1, Thanks didnt know that
[00:06] <genewitch> ic2000: the wifi thing wants to be a mass storage device (i.e. it's getting mounted); there's a few workarounds but it depends on what version of ubuntu. You can try unmounting it (check by typing mount in a command line)
[00:06] <GroundZero1> sepehr, i was inspecting the irc packets with wireshark..nothing that you could read..everything encrypted..it would an expert to crack your messages
[00:06] <sdasda> snowstorm i just did that
[00:06] <Bashing-om> eskatrem: man after my own heart .. I too like xfce ..  in it much easier to work with and to configure .
[00:06] <genewitch> sepehr: sepehr@83.121.227.143
[00:06] <sdasda> snowstorm it still gives me a black screen with blinking dash
[00:07] <GroundZero1> Bashing-om, i like mate..so easy..so compact..so efficient
[00:07] <genewitch> sepehr: lol, you need to register with nickserv and possibly get your host masked like mine
[00:07] <Exterminador> and to help more with security, use the ssl port of freenode
[00:07] <GroundZero1> genewitch, is this his real ip?
[00:07] <ic2000> genewitch: how can i check
[00:07] <Exterminador> that will help
[00:07] <sepehr> i can verify thats my real ip
[00:07] <genewitch> ic2000: type mount in a command line, pastebin it
[00:07] <papa_> im from russia. Happy New year ppl ! =)
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Let's all know what we are working with presently .pastebin ' sudo parted -l ; sudo fdisk -lu ' and we all get on the same page .
[00:08] <sepehr> Exterminador, How should i make it more safe ?
[00:08] <snowstorm> sdasda: did you get anything before the blinking dash.... is dash preceed with some letters/numbers?
[00:08] <sdasda> i got the loading ubuntu logo
[00:08] <sdasda> snowstorm
[00:08] <ic2000> genewitch: https://bpaste.net/show/6073f9507190
[00:08] <eskatrem> Bashing-om: probably a problem with Ubuntu desktop. thanks a lot
[00:08] <genewitch> ic2000: oh and for whate version of ubuntu it's cat /etc/*release*
[00:09] <snowstorm> sdasda is it loading/booting?
[00:09] <sdasda> snowstorm i dont know, there is just a black screen and a blinking dash upper right of the screen
[00:09] <sdasda> snowstorm thats all thats happening with it
[00:09] <ic2000> genewitch: DISTRIB_RELEASE=16.10
[00:09] <Bashing-om> eskatrem: Yeah. no doubt now . but I would have expected the RE-install of the DE to have corrected :(
[00:11] <ic2000> genewitch: there is another thing i looked up
[00:11] <papa_> tnx
[00:11] <ic2000> apparently with my adapters, they support the broadcom drivers
[00:11] <ic2000> so if you can show me how to install them
[00:11] <ic2000> that may work
[00:11] <snowstorm> sdasda so noting else is happening?
[00:11] <sdasda> snowstorm no
[00:12] <genewitch> ic2000: apt search broadcom
[00:12] <Bashing-om> ic2000: "support the broadcom drivers" briadcom is proprietary.
[00:12] <Bashing-om> !bcm | ic2000
[00:13] <deus_> hrmm, ok.
[00:13] <genewitch> ic2000: i have an ath9k somewhere but i think i had to compile something. there's a solution for debian, so maybe rephrase your question in here like this: "lsusb shows Atheros AR7010 (no firmware); ubuntu 16.10 wifi how?" or similar, i am sure someone in here knows exactly what tod o
[00:13] <snowstorm> sdasda: my guess is that it doesn't load from the usb installation stick.  Try to redo your usb with a verified ISO
[00:13] <Exterminador> who can take a look at this and tell me what to think about my hdd? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23725039/
[00:13] <snowstorm> I must leave pc for now.  bbl
[00:13] <sdasda> snowstorm can you give a link to an ubuntu that works good? and a universal burner so i can burn it to my stick please
[00:14] <deus_> when i copy my output from my script and run it manually i get this: mv ./blah/*.avi ./blah.avi
[00:14] <Exterminador> if it's cool or it's better to think in having a new one
[00:14] <snowstorm> sdasda ubuntu.com
[00:14] <deus_> response: mv: target './blah.avi' is not a directory
[00:14] <sdasda> snowstorm but its there i downloaded the ubuntu im trying to install
[00:14] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: looking .
[00:15] <snowstorm> sdasda https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[00:15] <sdasda> snowstorm and what burner should i use? link please? :)
[00:15] <snowstorm> sdasda https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:15] <snowstorm> sdasda rufus
[00:16] <Exterminador> rufus work on linux?
[00:16] <Pozzo> why using rufus instead of unetbootin ?
[00:16] <sdasda> snowstorm thank you so much, are you gonna be online for a while? i might need more help
[00:16] <sdasda> snowstorm
[00:16] <Exterminador> sdasda: snowstorm quitted
[00:17] <sdasda> exterminador i hope you can help me then x)
[00:17] <sdasda> i would really appriciate it
[00:17] <Exterminador> sdasda: i'm here to be helped. :x lol
[00:17] <Pozzo> snowstorm: why using rufus instead of unetbootin ?
[00:18] <sdasda> pozzo i think because its faster
[00:18] <Pozzo> ok... if you said so :)
[00:18] <Mr1NK> exterminador : are have problem with installation ???
[00:18] <Pozzo> or you can use usb-creator-gtk
[00:19] <Exterminador> Mr1NK: nope, i've installed it successfuly. just trying to learn a bit more
[00:19] <Jeaton> not necessarily a ubuntu question, but what is a decent dvd burning software on ubuntu
[00:20] <Jeaton> i used to use tovid, i dont know how it run nowdays
[00:21] <Burrito_CLpag> hola :)
[00:22] <genewitch> Burr-Brown from TI USB Audio CODEC causes ubuntu to hang when plugged in, anyone have any tips? http://projectftm.com/index.php?75cb4d this is what /var/log/messages say when i plug it in
[00:22] <Pozzo> brasero is quite good
[00:22] <Pozzo> or KD3
[00:22] <zerorax> is there a package that can compile an entire ubuntu system from source using compiler optimizations specific to your hardware?
[00:23] <genewitch> zerorax: yeah it's called gentoo
[00:23] <zerorax> genewitch I meant something automated, so non-tech people can do it
[00:23] <genewitch> non tech people wouldn't need those optimizations
[00:24] <genewitch> because 90% of it is not using dracut
[00:24] <genewitch> or initrd
[00:24] <Mr1NK> zerorex : try snappy
[00:24] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: so, is it time to buy a new hdd and replace this one? :x
[00:24] <TheGoose_> set irc.server.freenode.username "TheGoose_"
[00:24] <TheGoose_> fuck
[00:25] <Exterminador> who?
[00:25] <esjkfgsdjkfh> hello , my laptop has been fucked up , when i open it i got this : error file 'grub/x86_64-efi/normal mod not found
[00:25] <esjkfgsdjkfh> when i write ls , it show (hd0,gpt1) ... (hd0,gpt12)
[00:26] <energizer> What's the difference between font size and text scaling?
[00:27] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Well, the drive has beeb ariubd fir a while and you have " Current_Pending_Sector >> 3 " that is not good . Lemme have one with greater experience look , if he is available . wait a few .
[00:27] <pitastrudl> parsnip:they are
[00:27] <esjkfgsdjkfh> Bashing-om: please help
[00:27] <pitastrudl> my user has permissions to them
[00:27] <pitastrudl> its wierd i can use them on one DE and not on the other
[00:28] <pitastrudl> the verbosity just says at the end that the ssh-agent is trying the pub auth methods and then funding nothing
[00:28] <Bashing-om> esjkfgsdjkfh: Sorry efi booting is not in my range of experience .
[00:28] <pitastrudl> "tryng pirvate key etc"
[00:28] <pitastrudl> then "no more auth etohds to try" and the error
[00:29] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i guess i need start saving for an SSD! must be SATA 3Gb/s, but well.
[00:29] <Mr1NK> esjkfgsdjkfh : are have problem with efi booting ?!
[00:29] <Exterminador> i've heard SSD are faster (but not so reliable as HDD)
[00:31] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Maybe yes, I am still awaiting a resoponse from my ping for a second opinion on the drive health .
[00:31] <Pozzo> Exterminador: SSD are much faster and as reliable as HDD => there is no HDD reliable
[00:31] <genewitch> SSD will outlive most of the parts in your computer
[00:31] <Exterminador> Pozzo: so, i should go for one?
[00:31] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: SSD technology has come a lomg way . They are even more reliable and longer lasting than a hard drive !
[00:31] <energizer> http://www.zdnet.com/article/ssd-reliability-in-the-real-world-googles-experience/
[00:31] <Pozzo> HDD are also reliable to store data than fog on a glasses
[00:31] <energizer> google did a long study of this ^
[00:32] <Pozzo> Exterminador: yes you can go with SSD
[00:32] <Pozzo> Exterminador: if you are really anxious you can use SSD for your system and store your /home on a legacy HDD
[00:33] <Exterminador> Pozzo: i'm not much into this. but, SSD lifetime is higher/equal/lower than HDD? do you can tell me?
[00:33] <Pozzo> Exterminador: a recent SSD will be equally lifetime
[00:33] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Got a pong ! stand by .
[00:33] <bazhang> lets take this to ##hardware please
[00:34] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: yes sir! :D
[00:34] <Pozzo> except for very specific situation maybe... if you read/write hundred of Gigabyte per day
[00:34] <Exterminador> bazhang: sorry. my bad for starting this "thread" :D
[00:35] <sdasda> guys i cant use google chrome on ubuntu?
[00:35] <esjkfgsdjkfh> mr1nk
[00:35] <TheGoose_> sdasda: chromium
[00:35] <TheGoose_> open source chrome
[00:36] <sdasda> does it store all the bookmarks i have on chrome?
[00:36] <Exterminador> Pozzo: well, you've helped me a lot to decide. i'll go for a SSD. and i dont write almost any data to the hard drive. almost everything i download goes to the external drive
[00:36] <esjkfgsdjkfh> when i start my laptop its show this file /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod not found".
[00:36] <TheGoose_> sdasda: not sure I use FF, but I'd beleive so
[00:36] <sdasda> thank you
[00:36] <gregl> esjkfgsdjkfh, Did it ever boot?
[00:36] <esjkfgsdjkfh> no
[00:36] <Pozzo> Exterminador: if you worry about reliability : have a look on RAID1
[00:36] <Mr1NK> esjkfgsdjkfh : may be you lost your grub
[00:36] <esjkfgsdjkfh> black screen with shell
[00:37] <gregl> esjkfgsdjkfh,  you just installed the os?
[00:37] <Pozzo> use multiple disk (from different brand / series)
[00:37] <esjkfgsdjkfh> it was working
[00:37] <esjkfgsdjkfh> i dualboot
[00:37] <esjkfgsdjkfh> windows 10 and kali linux
[00:37] <bazhang> #kali-linux then esjkfgsdjkfh
[00:38] <gregl> esjkfgsdjkfh, they don's support Kali here..
[00:38] <esjkfgsdjkfh> its about kali
[00:38] <esjkfgsdjkfh> its happen if i have ubuntu too
[00:38] <bazhang> kali is NOT supported here esjkfgsdjkfh
[00:38] <Exterminador> sdasda: maybe this help: https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium
[00:38] <esjkfgsdjkfh> i cant open the windows too
[00:38] <bazhang> ##windows for that esjkfgsdjkfh
[00:38] <TheGoose_> Exterminador: Im pretty sure its on launchpad, so you can just apt install it
[00:39] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: " < daftykins> ooh yes '3 current_pending_sector' so that suggests the data shexould be copied off that disk for a backup, then the drive fully zeroed to see how many bad sectors are encountered - they might all remap, or a huge number might be found and reallocated... but until it's done, likely that disk will keep causing trouble to the OS, software or user data "
[00:40] <genewitch> how do i see what serial ports are active?
[00:41] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: jeez. i've recently formatted the entire drive, before install w10 and xubuntu (both x64)
[00:41] <Exterminador> by the meantime, i'm not having problems. just want to make sure how my disk was. but seems it's dying. :/
[00:42] <Pozzo> Exterminador: do you have checked the smart properties of your disk ?
[00:42] <TheGoose_> Exterminador: SMART report?
[00:42] <Exterminador> TheGoose_: yes, apt install chromium-browser will work (at least on Xubuntu 16.04.1)
[00:42] <Exterminador> Pozzo: it's smarctl -a /dev/sda that i've pasted
[00:43] <TheGoose_> Exterminador: Pretty sure you need smartmontools to check it
[00:43] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Sometimes zero'n out a drive will work wonders . Is all I can say .
[00:43] <TheGoose_> but you can install it and run sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX to get info
[00:44] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: you mean i need to format it again? and reinstall all again?
[00:44] <Exterminador> :x
[00:45] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Yeah, even then there is a degree of doubt about the life of that drive .
[00:45] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i've formatted it at 3-4 weeks ago. so, i should assume that it's in real bad shape already
[00:46] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: What ya need to do is zero out that drive . takes about an hour per 100 Gigs - depending on how fast of a processor you have .
[00:46] <zerorax> how hard is it to contribute code to ubuntu?
[00:46] <Exterminador> it's a Dual Core T4300 @ 2.10Ghz
[00:46] <TheGoose_> zerorax: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[00:46] <Pozzo> zerorax: try to contribute for translate documentation first
[00:47] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: 'Bout an hour per 100 Gigs to write 0's , then install and run the smart test once more .
[00:48] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: and how do i do that? i've formatted the drive while installing windows.
[00:48] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Bear in mind that 2 people have advised that the drive as is is un-reliable .
[00:49] <zerorax> bleh, this looks complicated
[00:49] <zerorax> I hate when developers make it hard to contribute code to their projects
[00:50] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Formatting is not the same as writiing zero's . one does that operation from a live ubuntu with the 'dd' command .
[00:50] <bayman> how do i start a service in /etc/init.d/myservice as a specific user?
[00:50] <bayman> in ubuntu 16.x
[00:51] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i can run smart test from live, right?
[00:51] <Pozzo> zerorax: I like playing doctor, how hard is it to become a real one ? seriously...
[00:52] <Exterminador> so, i'll try it. i guess i'll zero out it during the night
[00:52] <Exterminador> and tomorrow reinstall all again
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: I have had varing degrees of success with zero'd drives . maybe yes, maybe not so yes . But if you value your system and it's data, ya gots to do it ( dd) . Else get the manufacture's test suite and see what the drive's manufacture thinks of the drive's health .
[00:54] <Pozzo> Exterminador: have you tried smartcl long test ?
[00:55] <Pozzo> Exterminador: if the test is not good... you should put the hdd to trash... it happens that smartcl says "it's not faulty... and in fact it is"
[00:55] <Pozzo> but smartctl never says "the disk if faulty... and in fact it is not"
[00:55] <RonWhoCares> What file do I edit to add a process that runs in the background each time the computer starts
[00:56] <Pozzo> or the contrary :)
[00:57] <Pozzo> well... have a good evening ! bybye
[00:57] <Exterminador> so, lets start this..
[00:58] <cfoch> Guys. Hi. Is this error message: " required file './ltmain.sh' not found" due to an old version of libtool?
[00:58] <Exterminador> just making a backup of the disk on Xubuntu
[00:58] <Exterminador> then i'll make of windows
[00:59] <MrJones> cfoch: https://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/html_node/Error-required-file-ltmain_002esh-not-found.html
[00:59] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: so, i put the usb stick, boot from it, open terminal and type: dd ? is that correct?
[01:00] <cfoch> MrJones: was that always so? because I remember I have never done something like that in the past.
[01:03] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Lemme have a bit of tim to hunt up the command . You must be extrrememly carefuk with 'dd; . It is not known as sata destryer for nothing .
[01:04] <Bashing-om> sata/data*
[01:04] <LissajousPattern> happy new year
[01:05] <k00l3th4n> Bashing-om: What command are you looking for?
[01:05] <k00l3th4n> Bashing-om: Are you trying to burn an iso?
[01:05] <Exterminador> even if i destroy the whole data, that wont be a big problem, Bashing-om. i'll re-install the OSes again
[01:06] <marioad7> hi
[01:06] <k00l3th4n> marioad7: hi
[01:07] <marioad7> I am new on linux hehe
[01:07] <RageCraze> Chatting now from my freshly installed ubuntu!! :D
[01:07] <RageCraze> guys what's the best web editor for linux? something that supports javascript, jquery, html css and all that?
[01:08] <k00l3th4n> marioad7: Everyone has to start from the bottom. What are your goals with Linux. The basics?
[01:08] <mukluks> RageCraze: vim
[01:08] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Most def vim
[01:08]  * FinalX seconds^Wthirds vim
[01:08] <LissajousPattern> go VIM
[01:09]  * mukluks \o/
[01:09] <shantorn> what are the packages needed to allow me to switch from my intel to my nvidia graphics on my laptop somthing primus?
[01:09] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Google vim basic commands and you should be busy for awhile or just use the man pages.
[01:09] <FinalX> :set syntax=on
[01:09] <nchambers> RageCraze, I generally just use nano
[01:09] <FinalX> :set background=dark
[01:09] <FinalX> done :P
[01:09] <RageCraze> isn't vim a text editor?
[01:10] <FinalX> with syntax highlighting and the sort :)
[01:10] <k00l3th4n> shantorn: That is a whole process, not just a few commands. Google it and that should get you started. What distro are you using?
[01:10] <mukluks> yup
[01:10] <k1l_> shantorn: installing the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repo
[01:10] <shantorn> ubuntu mate 16.10
[01:10] <RonWhoCares> where is root's home directory in 16.10
[01:10] <mukluks> RageCraze: yup, cos the web is text
[01:10] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Vim is a text editor + some. Are you looking for a gui?
[01:10] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: is this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX (where sdX is the device of the drive to delete.)
[01:11] <RageCraze> im actually looking for an IDE that would highlight text and such
[01:11] <RageCraze> like dreamweaver on pc you know
[01:11] <RageCraze> on windows**
[01:11] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Try Geany, that's a good gui.
[01:12] <RageCraze> installing that now. any helpful tips/ keyboard shortcuts i should learn to easy use this OS?
[01:12] <xangua> !root | RonWhoCares
[01:13] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: You will just have to do the research. There is more to it than can be explained.
[01:14] <RageCraze> will do thanks! i love that i just have to access the ''linux store'' to download anything, makes me feel like im using android :D
[01:14] <RonWhoCares> xangua: I am running a background process at startup that enables scanning on my Brother MFC-435W.  The process is owned by 'root'.  I am trying to figure out where the scanned files got saved
[01:14] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: That the whole concept about open source. Linux is great! And has the best community for help.
[01:15] <RonWhoCares> ubottu: The reason I am asking is 'root' is displayed on the MFC's screen for me to choose the destination computer
[01:15] <RageCraze> yeah im really thankful for you guys, some guy helped me alot today, my installation was stuck in a black screen and i almost lost hope after hours of research but he made it work
[01:15] <Exterminador> indeed, linux is great.
[01:15] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Look up YouTube videos on Geany. That should give you a good intro.
[01:16] <k00l3th4n> Exterminador: I don't know what I was doing with my life before I met Linux.
[01:16] <Exterminador> in windows i've take almost 30 mins to install a Canon printer, with the installation cd.. in Xubuntu, i've plugged the printer and a few seconds the printer was installed
[01:17] <Exterminador> few seconds later*
[01:17] <k00l3th4n> Exterminador: What is your daily distro? Ubuntu?
[01:17] <Exterminador> Xubuntu
[01:17] <Exterminador> 16.04 LTS
[01:17] <RageCraze> i just used geany, i think im gonna settle on it, it got some great features!
[01:18] <k00l3th4n> Exterminador: Right! I can't stand having to configure drivers in Windows. I only use that platform for work.
[01:18] <RageCraze> i use windows 10 on my stationary because of games
[01:18] <xangua> !ot
[01:18] <RageCraze> but i use this laptop for my studies, and i do a lot of programming
[01:18] <k00l3th4n> Have any of you guys ever tried Linux Academy? It is a great source of knowledge. Preps you for LPCI certs.
[01:19] <bazhang> lets take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please k00l3th4n
[01:21] <k00l3th4n> bazhang: No worries, I'll keep it on topic.
[01:21] <bazhang> thanks
[01:21] <Exterminador> i'm having lots of errors on: tar czf Xubuntu.tar.gz /
[01:22] <RageCraze> guys how do i type the alpha symbol? its not working here
[01:22] <RageCraze> shit + 2 isn't doing it
[01:22] <k1l_> RageCraze: what keyboard layout do you use?
[01:23] <Exterminador> some of them like: /sys/module/psmouse/uevent: Cannot open: Permission denied
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: ' dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M ' If ya do in terminal ' man dd ' there are instructions on obtaining a status .
[01:23] <RageCraze> i use norwegian
[01:23] <RageCraze> we use ctrl alt and 2 to type the alpha symbol
[01:23] <RageCraze> but its not working on linux thats weird
[01:23] <nem122> hi
[01:23] <k00l3th4n> Exterminador: Are you addind the flag correctly, with the -czf
[01:24] <nem122> any good programmer online who could help me by answering one little question over pm?
[01:24] <Exterminador> erm. not using the "-"
[01:24] <_stripwear_> hi
[01:24] <nem122> please?
[01:24] <k1l_> nem122: if its not ubuntu related try to ask in a programming language related channel.
[01:24] <Exterminador> RageCraze: AltGr+2?
[01:24] <k00l3th4n> Exterminador: You need to be root. Use sudo command*
[01:25] <RageCraze> gr?
[01:25] <bazhang> ##programming nem122
[01:25] <k1l_> RageCraze: the key right of space bar
[01:25] <RageCraze> @
[01:25] <RageCraze> ohh there it is!
[01:25] <nem122> its not exactly about programing, i'm sure lot of you linux guys know this stuff
[01:25] <RageCraze> but wtf why cant i use the same as i use on windows
[01:25] <Exterminador> RageCraze: no idea
[01:25] <bazhang> RageCraze, no cursing here
[01:25] <RageCraze> hmm thats weird, but that should be ok to get used to
[01:25] <RageCraze> sorry
[01:25] <RageCraze> im new here u know
[01:26] <k1l_> RageCraze: that is keyboard layout specific. so see what layout you use on ubuntu and which one on windows
[01:26] <RageCraze> ill try and see
[01:26] <Exterminador> RageCraze: i use the same key shortcut on Windows
[01:26] <_stripwear_> Im new here too RageCraze ;)
[01:27] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: No worries, we were all noobs @ some point. That's why there are moderators to help guide users.
[01:27] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: command saved for further use. thanks a lot!
[01:27] <RageCraze> yeah i know, thanks alot guys
[01:27] <_stripwear_> bye people
[01:28] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: I expect to be here tomorrow . let us know how it goes :)
[01:28] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: You're welcome.
[01:28] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: sure. just need too find how to create a backup of windows
[01:29] <Exterminador> never done it before. and W10 is way complicated
[01:29] <RageCraze> how do i open the ''terminal'' in ubuntu?
[01:29] <k1l_> RageCraze: ctrl+alt+t is the shortcut
[01:29] <Exterminador> RageCraze: Ctrl+Alt+T
[01:29] <kk4ewt> press the superkey type terminal
[01:29] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: You need to go look in your keyboard shortcuts. Most of the time it's ALT T or Shift ALT T
[01:30] <RageCraze> nice!
[01:30] <RageCraze> i got it with ctrl alt t
[01:30] <k1l_> RageCraze: or you use the "dash". press windows button (called super key on ubuntu) and then type something
[01:30] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: or Ctrl Alt T
[01:30] <Exterminador> with major keyboards with the Windows key symbol, is WinKey+T
[01:30] <ic2000> hello, i'm having an issue where no matter what i try (installing various amount of firmware and so on) i cannot get my wifi adapter to work with ubuntu. it recognises the device but claims there's no firmware for it: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR7010 (no firmware)
[01:30] <k1l_> Exterminador: no, that opens the trash
[01:31] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: You can go mod you keyboard shortcuts if you don't like defaults.
[01:31] <Exterminador> k1l_: on my keyboard, it opens terminal
[01:31] <Exterminador> maybe it's the layout
[01:31] <k1l_> with holding the super key you get a list of shortcuts.
[01:31] <k1l_> Exterminador: what ubuntu desktop do you use?
[01:31] <RageCraze> sure how do i mod it?
[01:31] <Exterminador> k1l_: Xubuntu
[01:32] <RageCraze> btw im trying to install something now, and after i type the command, it asks for my password, but nothing gets typed when i press my keys, is this normal?
[01:32] <k1l_> RageCraze: yes. its hidden
[01:32] <RageCraze> so i have to just type?
[01:32] <k1l_> yes. type blindly.
[01:32] <Exterminador> yes, RageCraze. that's the normal beahviour. even thought you can change it to appear "*" but i dont remember how
[01:33] <RageCraze> http://pastebin.com/n93bchNS
[01:33] <RageCraze> whats wrong with this?
[01:33] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Go to system settings and then keyboard. There will be a tab for shortcuts.
[01:33] <RageCraze> copied from the terminal after i put in my password
[01:33] <Exterminador> RageCraze: try: sudo su
[01:33] <Exterminador> then type the passwd
[01:34] <k1l_> RageCraze: do you have another program opened, that uses the package manager?
[01:34] <k1l_> Exterminador: stio
[01:34] <k1l_> Exterminador: stop
[01:34] <k1l_> RageCraze: dont do that
[01:34] <RageCraze> dont do what im confused now
[01:34] <k1l_> RageCraze: dont run Exterminador commands. read the errormessage you see in terminal: do you have another program opened that uses the ubuntu pacakge manager?
[01:35] <k1l_> Exterminador: setting a root password is not supported and will not help that user in any way.
[01:35] <RageCraze> i dont know whats ubuntu package manager, but how do i chek?
[01:35] <RageCraze> trying to install git by typing sudo apt-get install git curl
[01:35] <k1l_> RageCraze: do you have the updater or the software center opened?
[01:35] <RageCraze> yes the updater!
[01:35] <k1l_> RageCraze: is it running?
[01:36] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: You must have another package manager open. If you have a gui open and terminal, you will get that error.
[01:36] <RageCraze> yes i just closed the updater and the installation started! this is a great community, i hope i will become better at this and be able to help people to!
[01:36] <k1l_> RageCraze: you can only have one program manage the software packages at a time. so the system doesnt get confused and saves wrong states of installed software
[01:37] <Bashing-om> RageCraze: All it takes is time and effort :)
[01:37] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: That's is how the community works. You gain knowledge and in return share that knowledge with other noobs.
[01:38] <Exterminador> k1l_: when i installed the Xubuntu, it asked to set a password. since then, i use "sudo su". so, sometimes i get confused and i've misread the pastebin. sorry for that.
[01:38] <RageCraze> yeah i know, thats my goal guys
[01:38] <RageCraze> now after i installed git, do i just use the terminal?
[01:38] <RageCraze> or does it get installed somewhere
[01:38] <k1l_> Exterminador: sudo -i, if you want to use a root shell.
[01:39] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Yes, you can just use the terminal after installing git.
[01:39] <k1l_> RageCraze: if you use the official packages from the repo. ist properly installed then
[01:39] <RageCraze> how do i start it? like i wanna configure git settings now, what do i do?
[01:39] <RageCraze> hmm i cant find anything called git on the pc
[01:40] <k1l_> git is a terminal command
[01:40] <k00l3th4n> Use the man pages --> type in your terminal man git
[01:41] <Exterminador> k1l_: thanks for the advise. since i've started to navigate into linux world, everyone have said to type "sudo su". i appreciate all the help you give.
[01:42] <k1l_> Exterminador: yes, not using root is part of the ubuntu security setup. other distros handle that differently.
[01:43] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Also, get familar with weechat. Here is the quick starters guide --> http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_quickstart.en.html
[01:43] <FrostyBytes> I would say not using root is more of a safety net than a real security measure
[01:43] <RageCraze> ill try that thanks!
[01:43] <nedstark> there are graphical git clients, like smartgit, git-cola, giteye, giggle, gitg, and gitkraken
[01:43] <RageCraze> holy *** it was so easy to install git on linux? i had a lot of problems with it on windows!
[01:43] <RageCraze> omg i love this and ive been using this for almost 15 min!
[01:44] <Exterminador> now, i have another stupid question. why, when i installed Xubuntu in dual boot with windows, when booting the laptop, it appears 4 options on the screen to boot. why those 4? why not just *buntu & windows?
[01:44] <k1l_> RageCraze: that is the advantage of having that huge official package repos.
[01:44] <RageCraze> yeah! its really good im loving this already!
[01:44] <RageCraze> and i love that i can use chrome here, only thing missing is google drive
[01:44] <nedstark> it sees the windows recovery partition separately from windows
[01:44] <RageCraze> but i can use on web
[01:45] <k1l_> Exterminador: for debugging reasons there are older kernels and a recovery entry. and a memtest for the ram
[01:45] <nedstark> you can use google drive through the browser
[01:46] <Exterminador> k1l_: but is it possible to install it without the recovery and memtest entries? or not really?
[01:46] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: I started a private buffer with you. Check your buffers.
[01:46] <k1l_> Exterminador: you can make grub not displaying those other options
[01:46] <nedstark> its ironic that google has neglected making a google drive client when most of their workers' desktops are linux desktops
[01:47] <Exterminador> hum. grub customizer will do the job?
[01:47] <k1l_> Exterminador: or you look at the scripts yourself.
[01:48] <RageCraze> whats buffer i dont know how
[01:48] <Exterminador> that's an idea. another thing. each user account can have is own env language?
[01:49] <Exterminador> i mean, i like to work with it in EN. but my wife dont understand anything of EN
[01:49] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: Type these commands one @ a time in --> /mouse enable and then /script install buffers.pl
[01:50] <Exterminador> so, she can setup PT to her displaying lang?
[01:51] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: buffers.pl will give you a side view of your buffers.
[01:51] <xangua> nedstark: RageCraze haven't tested it myself www.webupd8.org/2016/03/use-gnome-318-google-drive-integration.html?m=1
[01:51] <RageCraze> ohhh ill try that now!
[01:51] <RageCraze> buffers.pl? where do i type that
[01:52] <RageCraze> is there a way to hide the side bar when using full screen on an application?
[01:53] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: close this buffer with /close and then in the weechat buffer type those commands. Then you can rejoin this channel.
[01:53] <nedstark> xangua, thanks
[01:53] <k00l3th4n> RageCraze: I'm not sure if you can hide it or not. Never tried...
[01:56] <RageCraze> hmmm
[02:19] <zerorax> how do I disable x from starting?
[02:20] <zerorax> in lubuntu
[02:20] <zerorax> essentially, I want to have a DE, but not use it unless i use startx command
[02:23] <kk4ewt> start in runlevel 3
[02:24] <zerorax> will that effect anything other than stopping X from init'ing?
[02:24] <kk4ewt> it will boot to a console
[02:24] <kk4ewt> networking and the rest will work
[02:25] <kk4ewt> wireless might be a little harder to get going but ethernet should work fine
[02:25] <MSDOS6> hello
[02:25] <MSDOS6> how is everyone
[02:29] <Ragecraze> guys!! i restarted my computer and now it won't connect to the internet, what's wrong?
[02:29] <Ragecraze> ubuntu btw
[02:30] <idosedthekoolaid> lel moar infoz gonna be needed i can tell ya that fer starters :)
[02:34] <sexy_f> hihi
[02:34] <analymous> тут с нульчана есть кто?
[02:35] <Ragecraze> anyone help pelase!
[02:38] <sexy_f> gone hi
[02:44] <Ragecraze> lost internet connetion on ubuntu, anyone help me please?
[02:44] <RNeville> hello everyone
[02:45] <Phanes> Ragecraze, what were you doing right before you lost connectivity
[02:45] <Phanes> Ragecraze, also, ifconfig, route, etc, use a pastebin
[02:45] <Ragecraze> i just restarted my computer, i was just surfing internet phanes
[02:46] <Ragecraze> ifconfig? in terminal?
[02:46] <Ragecraze> im new to this u know
[02:46] <Phanes> Ragecraze, then you have a hard road ahead of you until you can learn to research.  get comfy with the terminal or this won't be for you.
[02:47] <Ragecraze> phanes i got ifconfig there but i cant copy from there because there is no itnernet
[02:47] <Ragecraze> internet*
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[02:49] <Ragecraze> http://pastebin.com/z9BtnQQf
[02:49] <Ragecraze> phanes here is the code from ifconfig
[02:49] <Ragecraze> phanes can you please help me solve this
[02:51] <Phanes> Ragecraze, you have no ip address
[02:52] <Phanes> Ragecraze, try using dhclient against your nic to see if it picks it up
[02:52] <kk4ewt> Ragecraze, sudo systemctl status NetworkManager
[02:52] <Phanes> also http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch04_:_Simple_Network_Troubleshooting
[02:53] <Ragecraze> how do i use dhclient? and whats nic?
[02:53] <Ragecraze> do you want me to pastebin the result of the sudo code?
[02:54] <kk4ewt> please
[02:55] <Ragecraze> phanes u still there?
[03:00] <bruybenj> hi all how can i setup 2 network card with 1 ip so the transfer go faster on lan
[03:02] <RNeville> Hello Everyone
[03:04] <Peppernrino> anybody else having weird issues hitting the ubuntu archives from 16.04?
[03:05] <Peppernrino> i managed to hack through... just wondering if anybody else has seen what i have yet.
[03:10] <Tatou> How is ubuntu for tablets?
[03:11] <bazhang> !touch | Tatou
[03:46] <manwe> \join $oneplusx
[03:50] <thedanyes> I'm running 16.04 and I can't seem to get the vino server working. Any tips?
[03:51] <Ben64> thedanyes: can you be more specific
[03:51] <just1buck> i do NOT use windows but i bought a wincleaner usb drive for just 1 dollar in the hope that i would be able to use it as a usb flash drive under GNU/Linux. is it possible?
[03:52] <just1buck> https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/641256-hack-a-win-cleaner-usb/
[03:52] <Ben64> just1buck: probably
[03:52] <just1buck>  http://pasted.co/0959c994
[03:52] <kk4ewt> what size is it
[03:53] <Ben64> seems more like no now
[03:53] <thedanyes> Ben64: well. I used the little remote desktop configuration applet and then I tried to connect. first i tried remotely after configuring port forwarding on my router. then I tried from another machine on my lan with the tightvnc client.
[03:53] <Ben64> thedanyes: ps aux | grep vino
[03:53] <thedanyes> Ben64: I tried starting the vino-server from a terminal to try to see the output and what might be wrong, but it doesn't even register incoming connection attempts.
[03:54] <thedanyes> Ben64: it does show up in netstat -ap4n as listening on 5900 though
[03:54] <Ben64> what does netstat say exactly
[03:55] <thedanyes> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5900            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      4070/vino-server
[03:55] <Ben64> looks like it works
[03:56] <thedanyes> when i try to connect from tightvnc client on my local machine, it says the remote machine is not responding, or something like that
[03:56] <Ben64> try using nmap on your local ip
[03:56] <thedanyes> rather, from my *other* machine, not from the same PC...
[03:57] <thedanyes> 5900/tcp open  vnc
[03:58] <Ben64> it works
[03:58] <thedanyes> yeah? well I don't know what else would be the problem then...
[03:58] <thedanyes> I can ping this PC from my other PC...
[03:58] <Ben64> either network or user problem
[03:59] <Ben64> try nmap from other pc
[03:59] <thedanyes> I just tried PuTTY from the other PC, raw connection on port 5900
[03:59] <thedanyes> timed out
[03:59] <Ben64> why putty
[03:59] <thedanyes> it's Windows.
[04:00] <Ben64> still doesn't make sense
[04:00] <thedanyes> no? I tried TightVNC client and that didn't work
[04:00] <Ben64> try nmap
[04:00] <janp01> hi
[04:03] <thedanyes> nmap requires winpcap and a bunch of bullshit
[04:04] <FrostyBytes> use tcpdump on the linux machine to see what it is getting on the network
[04:05] <FrostyBytes> like tcpdump -i eth0 "host <windows-ip>"
[04:06] <thedanyes> okay figured it out.  i had ufw running
[04:06] <thedanyes> thanks everyone :)
[04:16] <Guest96351> hello
[04:16] <Guest96351> anyone there
[04:17] <lethu> Guest96351, ask your question
[04:18] <Guest96351> my ubuntu software is not working. when i open it it dosnt show any details and after like 2 sec it closes itself
[04:19] <Guest96351> and when i install a 3rd party software it closes instanly when i click install
[04:21] <Guest96351> help
[04:22] <Guest96351> help
[04:22] <snkcld> Guest96351: what is "it"
[04:22] <Guest96351> my ubuntu software is not working. when i open it it dosnt show any details and after like 2 sec it closes itself
[04:23] <Guest96351>  and when i install a 3rd party software it closes instanly when i click install
[04:25] <Guest96351> @snkcld  my ubuntu software is not working. when i open it it dosnt show any details and after like 2 sec it closes itself and when i install a 3rd party software it closes instanly when i click install
[04:28] <snkcld> no idea what you mean by "it"
[04:28] <just1buck> i do NOT use windows but i bought a wincleaner usb drive for just 1 dollar in the hope that i would be able to use it as a usb flash drive under GNU/Linux. is it possible?
[04:28] <just1buck> https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/641256-hack-a-win-cleaner-usb/
[04:29] <just1buck> http://pasted.co/0959c994
[04:30] <just1buck> i think the wincleaner  usb device capacity is 4.3MB (yes, less than 5 megabytes!)
[04:32] <sintre> just1buck> with flash drives so inexpensive why waste your time
[04:32] <Ben64> just1buck: no
[04:32] <just1buck> Ben64, can you please elaborate?
[04:32] <Ben64> it's not possible
[04:33] <just1buck> Ben64, can you please elaborate? it's not possible is just a statement, please give detailed and technical reasons
[04:34] <Ben64> you linked to a page where they explained it, have you read that
[04:35] <just1buck> http://pasted.co/24a5931d
[04:36] <Ben64> cool, pasting stuff won't change the facts
[04:36] <sector327> .
[04:38] <snkcld> Ben64: lol
[04:38] <just1buck> Bedn64, i am desktop newbie and to a desktop newbie the information on http://pasted.co/0959c994 does not explain in plain English why the wincleaner usb device can not be used as a flash drive.
[04:39] <kk4ewt> read the page you linked its not a flash drive its a rom drive
[04:42] <one808> 噩噩噩噩噩
[04:42] <one808> 有没有人
[04:42] <FrostyBytes> just1buck: the wincleaner declares itself to the OS as a USB CD-ROM drive. so you can't write to it, even though it may use flash internally
[04:42] <one808> 我草你吗
[04:42] <kk4ewt> FrostyBytes, its a ROM
[04:42] <cfhowlett> one808, stop that. you already know this channel is english only.  play somewhere else
[04:42] <just1buck> kk4ewt, a bog standard usb flash drive can be formated as CD DIVE (iso9660). For instance, to create a usb flash drive  that can boot a GNU/Live distro
[04:43] <kk4ewt> just1buck,  that is a ROM can only be written once
[04:43] <kk4ewt> and it has been
[04:43] <FrostyBytes> kk4wet: how do you know it's a ROM? it takes a lot more capital to make a real ROM versus using an off the shelf flash part
[04:43] <kk4ewt> yes its a rom
[04:43] <kk4ewt> i have looked at them before
[04:44] <just1buck> you have? can you elaborate, please?
[04:44] <Ben64> this crap isn't on topic
[04:44] <kk4ewt> open it up and look at the parts
[04:44] <kk4ewt> google the part #
[04:47] <snkcld> i ran "grub-install  /dev/my-vg/my-lv" then "kvm -hda /dev/my-vg/my-lv", but when it boots it says that the disk is "not a bootable device"... is there anything special i have to do to get lvm volumes to work with kvm?
[04:49]  * linux_user says Hello all! I started to get xtrs running on Ubuntu! Yes, xtrs - the TRS-80 emulator!! I am looking for some old gurus of the Model I/III/4p/4D era to talk about LS-DOS/L-DOS/and TRS-DOS 6.2/6.3 private me if you are of that age bracket! :)
[04:58] <vasanth> my ubuntu software is not working someone pls help
[04:58] <cfhowlett> !details | vasanth
[04:59] <vasanth> my ubuntu app store thingi dosnt work . when i open it loads and then closes itself
[04:59] <cfhowlett> vasanth, what ubuntu version
[05:00] <just1buck> thanks
[05:00]  * sintre face palms
[05:00] <vasanth> ubuntu 16.04
[05:01] <cfhowlett> vasanth, close the app.  open a terminal.  sudo apt update
[05:01] <allen_> whats a store thing
[05:02] <vasanth> ok its done
[05:03] <cfhowlett> vasanth, now   sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:04] <vasanth> done
[05:04] <sintre> reboot
[05:05] <cfhowlett> vasanth, what is the package name you want?
[05:05] <vasanth> what package name
[05:05] <cfhowlett> vasanth, what are you trying to install
[05:06] <vasanth> oh any desk
[05:06] <cfhowlett> vasanth, a desk is what many people put the computer on top of.  clarify.
[05:07] <vasanth> the app is anydesk. as in the app which allows two coms to comunicate
[05:08] <cfhowlett> vasant not in the 16.04 software center
[05:08] <nedstark> https://anydesk.com/platforms
[05:08] <nedstark> download the .deb file directly
[05:09] <vasanth> i have the .deb file on my downloads
[05:09] <nedstark> if you have gdebi installed it should install it when you click on it
[05:09] <nedstark> if not, then install gdebi
[05:11] <vasanth> thank you cfhowlett
[05:12] <cfhowlett> vasanth, happy2help!
[05:12] <vasanth> it worked
[05:12] <vasanth> bye
[05:16] <Mario88ontweet> Hi
[05:16] <Mario88ontweet> I have windows 8.1 and was wondering..
[05:17] <Mario88ontweet> If i put my PC in Legacy BIOS and install Ubuntu.. Would ubuntu mess up my windows install that is in UEFI?
[05:17] <Mario88ontweet> I don't want them both in UEFI if possible.
[05:24] <michael_> Hello
[05:29] <Kali_Yuga> hello my friend has an nvidia gefore 315 and it is overheating. he just put cooling paste on it and it is still overheating. any ideas why? we are just playing gmod... http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=63983947
[05:32] <pantato> https://paste.ee/p/y5i8W <---- i cant seem to upgrade or install anything. Anyone have idea what's going on and how to remedy it?
[05:32] <Turiya> put the heatsink ontop of the thermal paste
[05:34] <pantato> o ok
[05:35] <cfhowlett> pantato, sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:35] <pantato> wont that upgrade my distro?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> no.
[05:35] <pantato> ok ill try that
[05:37] <Mario88ontweet> hello?
[05:37] <Mario88ontweet> Can i install Ubuntu in legacy BIOS and have it not effect windows 8.1 in UEFI?
[05:37] <pantato> cfhowlett: i also get the error to apt-get -f install when i do that
[05:38] <Kali_Yuga> Turiya: well he just did that. he removed the cooling ribs put some cooling paste onto the processor and put it all back together. still overheating for some reason.
[05:39] <cfhowlett> Kali_Yuga, ask in ##hardware as this is clearly not an ubuntu issue
[05:39] <Kali_Yuga> no he's using windows 8 but you guys have more clue... am I not in offtopic?
[05:40] <Kali_Yuga> sorry I thought I was in offtopic
[05:40] <cfhowlett> hardware heating sink questions have nothing to do with ubuntu
[05:40] <Kali_Yuga> cfhowlett: I know but in offtopic it doesn't matter right?
[05:40] <pantato> cfhowlett: http://i.imgur.com/lqisGgz.png
[05:41] <Kali_Yuga> I havent said anything about ubuntu. ubuntu's fine. he's using windows 8 or 10 or whatever
[05:41] <cfhowlett> which makes it ... off-topic for this channel.
[05:42] <cfhowlett> pantato, he could try purging and reinstalling the offending package.
[05:42] <Kali_Yuga> cfhowlett: where is the offtopic channel won't connect
[05:42] <Mario88ontweet> anybody?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> !ot | Kali_Yuga
[05:42] <cfhowlett> !patience | Mario88ontweet,
[05:43] <Kali_Yuga> cfhowlett: It won't connect to offtopic where did the channel go. I do /join ubuntu-offtopic and I land here for some reason?
[05:43] <cfhowlett> Kali_Yuga, /join <<
[05:43] <cfhowlett> ah wait
[05:43] <Kali_Yuga> thats why I though i'm in offtopic
[05:44] <Kali_Yuga> sorry about that
[05:44] <hanasaki> how do you scan legal size docs in xsane?
[05:44] <kk4ewt>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Kali_Yuga, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:44] <Kali_Yuga> dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
[05:44] <Kali_Yuga> xD sorry
[05:45] <kk4ewt> hanasaki, does your scanner support legal
[05:45] <hanasaki> it copys them fine
[05:46] <pantato> cfhowlett: i did try that. See original paste link
[05:47] <kk4ewt> if your scanner does it then xsane
[05:47] <kk4ewt> shouldnt have any issues
[05:48] <hanasaki> kk4ewt:  the page is actually 8.5x11 "   scanning seems to miss about 0.25 " of the width.  scaner is HP_Color_LaserJet_MFP_M277dw
[05:48] <kk4ewt> thats not legal that letter
[05:49] <hanasaki> right.
[05:49] <hanasaki> would prefer to scan letter and not loose the edge.. trying to figure out why the edige is missing and if I cannot , then I want to scan bigger and trim
[05:50] <kk4ewt> make sure you are using the correct driver for the scanner
[05:51] <hanasaki> how do check?
[05:55] <Random832> what version of grub is the 'normal' one to have installed with ubuntu? i've screwed up my installation in some interesting ways and i need to make sure i have the right version of everything or i'm not sure i'll be able to boot again
[05:56] <Random832> and what are the package names for a successful install of grub 2? "grub2" gives me dependency errors
[05:56] <Bashing-om> Random832: What release are you in reference to ?
[05:56] <Random832> 16.04
[05:57] <Random832> everything i can find indicates that grub2 is the normal version
[05:57] <Random832> but i get these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/23726225/
[05:59] <Random832> ok it looks like the package i need might be grub-efi-amd64?
[05:59] <Random832> i just don't want to screw this up and not be able to boot, since my attempt to make a live usb failed
[06:01] <hicoleri> I shut down my computer using "systemctl shutdown". Now, when I do so systemctl kills all of the currently running applications and then shuts down the computer. Because systemctl kills the applications, any new configurations made to the applications is lost.
[06:01] <hicoleri> so, how do I make systemctl send term signals to applications instead of directly killing them?
[06:01] <Bashing-om> Random832: " sysop@x1604:~$ grub-install --version >> grub-install (GRUB) 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.2 " .
[06:02] <The__Goose> So, i have a weird issue
[06:03] <The__Goose> I have a USB mouse, and wireless headset. Everytime I plug the dongle in for the headset, my mouse stops working correctly
[06:03] <The__Goose> I cant click, but can still move mouse
[06:04] <Bashing-om> Random832: Try ' sudo apt install grub-pc grub-common ' .
[06:05] <Random832> no i think i've figured it out
[06:05] <Random832> "grub2" was an older transitional package name
[06:05] <Random832> and "grub" is still grub 1 for some reason
[06:05] <Random832> i think a lot of people don't ever have to see these things because the installer sets it up and they never change anything
[06:09] <UbuntuDude> dpkg -l >resulted> ii vlc 2.2.2-5 amd64 multimedia player and streamer ,, my question is, how to keep a copy of packages for offline installation?
[06:10] <Bashing-om> !aptoncd | UbuntuDude
[06:11] <UbuntuDude> ubottu: I've tried it and it doesn't list all installed packages. vlc in my case was one of the none listed
[06:11] <cfhowlett> UbuntuDude, apt-get download packagename
[06:11] <UbuntuDude> well then Bashing-om
[06:12] <The__Goose> Bashing-om: that is cool as fuck
[06:13] <UbuntuDude> thanks cfhowlett , that works
[06:13] <cfhowlett> The__Goose, drop the profanity in this channel
[06:13] <cfhowlett> UbuntuDude, happy2help!
[06:16] <The__Goose> I cannot figure out what could possibly cause this
[06:23] <UbuntuDude> cfhowlett: do you have any idea(s) on how to download the package with all its dependencies as well?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> UbuntuDude, aptoncd is the easiest way I know.
[06:23] <cfhowlett> but for a specific package
[06:24] <UbuntuDude> I donno why but on it's not showing installed packages here on xenial x64
[06:24] <cfhowlett> apt-get install -s <packagename>      will simulate the operation.  capture the output of identified packages and put that in your apt-get download
[06:25] <UbuntuDude> ok thanks
[06:25] <cfhowlett> also read the !offline suggestions
[06:38] <jnewt> I have two versions of go installed.  one at /usr/bin/go and another at /usr/local/go.  the one at /usr/local/go was installed manually from the website.  i want it to be the default and only version.
[06:39] <jnewt> $which go gives the other (/usr/bin/go).  i'd like to remove that one (it's an older version).
[06:40] <jnewt> apt doesn't think its installed
[06:43] <jnewt> should i just delete the folder /usr/bin/go ?
[06:44] <ObrienDave> i wouldn't because the menu launcher would still point to that one
[06:45] <Ben64> jnewt: you should install things properly
[06:48] <jnewt> Ben64: I reviewed the install instructions after finding the issue.  I believe I have followed them properly and ended up with the install at /usr/local/go as expected.  i had previously installed with apt (which resulted in usr/bin/go I think).  I am not convnced I have done something improperly yet.
[06:49] <jnewt> ObrienDave, what would you suggest?
[06:49] <Ben64> jnewt: installing things from source isn't properly installed
[06:50] <ObrienDave> apt type installs are supported here. manual and/or PPA installs are frowned upon for official help
[06:50] <linuxpc> hello, is ubuntu based on debian tesing or debian unstable?
[06:50] <home> need help
[06:50] <ObrienDave> linuxpc, debian release
[06:51] <workasdasd> nghtsk
[06:51] <linuxpc> what?
[06:51] <home> i have lost my root access
[06:52] <linuxpc> obrienDave, which release? testing, stable or unstable?
[06:52] <Ben64> home: boot into recovery mode to fix
[06:52] <home> how
[06:52] <Ben64> !recovery | home
[06:52] <ObrienDave> linuxpc, stable, i believe. not really sure
[06:52] <home> i tried
[06:53] <Ben64> home: what did you try exactly, and what is the exact problem
[06:53] <home> my sources.list file is missing
[06:53] <home> cannot update my archives
[06:53] <jnewt> ObrienDave, if that's the case (apt only), and apt defaults to version 1.6x and 1.7x is the current stable version available for ubuntu, then what is the official way to get it?
[06:53] <Ben64> home: ok? that wouldn't take away "root access"
[06:54] <home> i cannot mount usb or cd rom
[06:54] <Ben64> home: you should start explaining things
[06:54] <home> it is saying not authorised
[06:54] <Ben64> you're about to make my patience run out
[06:55] <home> i have upgraded from 14.04 lts to 16.04.1 lts
[06:55] <ObrienDave> jnewt, the official policy for Ubuntu is to err on the side of stability. hence you are one version behind on the newest stable release
[06:57] <home> Ben64 are you there?
[06:58] <Ben64> home: waiting for you to make some sense
[06:58] <insomagent> lol
[06:59] <insomagent> ~~~~~lol~~~~~ <(help I'm drowning!)
[06:59] <home>  root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:59] <Ben64> home: what are you doing to get that response
[07:00] <home> for update of archives
[07:00] <home> sudo apt update
[07:00] <Ben64> yep, i give up. not going to fight someone in order to help
[07:01] <ObrienDave> what is the command you're issuing to get that response
[07:01] <home> sudo apt update
[07:02] <ObrienDave> try     sudo apt-get update
[07:03] <home> Reading package lists... Done
[07:03] <home> W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max
[07:03] <home> W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-min
[07:03] <home> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:04] <lovestrom> n
[07:05] <home> i need help
[07:05] <tim_> hahahaaa
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !patience | home,
[07:06] <home> sorry
[07:06] <EriC^^> home: might be a bad ppa
[07:07] <home> so how to correct it
[07:07] <EriC^^> try apt-cache policy python-cffi-backend-api-max
[07:07] <home> N: Unable to locate package python-cffi-backend-api-max
[07:08] <EriC^^> try dpkg -l | grep python-cffi
[07:08] <ducasse> home: does /etc/apt/sources.list exist at all? 'ls -lh /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:09] <home> ls: cannot access '/etc/apt/sources.list': No such file or directory
[07:09] <ducasse> home: which ubuntu version is this?
[07:09] <home> 16.04.1
[07:12] <CygnusX1_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/538676/etc-apt-source-list-not-found
[07:13] <ducasse> home: here is a basic sources.list to get you going: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23726408/
[07:14] <cfhowlett> home  this might also be worth looking at:   http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[07:16] <UbuntuDude> why in heavens VLC depends on all flightgear libraries?
[07:17] <ObrienDave> flightgear depends on VLC libraries for sound and such
[07:17] <UbuntuDude> same question goes into #vlc .. I think that is the right place to ask
[07:18] <UbuntuDude> ObrienDave: well that is why I was surprised too when I looked into apt install vlc dependencies
[07:18] <ObrienDave> oh well
[07:20] <UbuntuDude> apt install vlc >>> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: flightgear-data-ai flightgear-data-aircrafts flightgear-data-all flightgear-data-base flightgear-data-models
[07:21] <EriC^^> that's saying it wants to remove them
[07:22] <cfhowlett> UbuntuDude, what was your exact command to install vlc?
[07:22] <EriC^^> something other than vlxc pulled them in and now its gone
[07:22] <cfhowlett> ^^^^ this ^^^^
[07:22] <priporg> why auto install packages you no longer need? strange how ubuntu works
[07:23] <cfhowlett> priporg, no that's the point; he actually did something to trigger their installation
[07:23] <EriC^^> priporg: package a was installed and it auto installed them as dependencies, package a got removed
[07:23] <UbuntuDude> cfhowlett: apt install -s vlc
[07:24] <UbuntuDude> it was about downloading vlc and its all dependencies if you remember
[07:24] <UbuntuDude> what I wanted is installing the whole thing offline
[07:25] <cfhowlett> UbuntuDude, I just ran apt install --reinstall -s vlc      http://paste.ubuntu.com/23726431/
[07:25] <UbuntuDude> so if the libraries are automatically installed and no longer required (WHY the heck is telling me that?)
[07:25] <priporg> vlc is the package that was installed with a bunch of dependencies (auto installed and no longer required). Weird.
[07:26] <UbuntuDude> well, that is a biased operating system then
[07:27] <ducasse> UbuntuDude: it is telling you that so you can remove them (with 'apt autoremove')
[07:28] <priporg> UbuntuDude, It will always auto install dependencies whether you need it or not. you can remove dependencies that are no longer required, but you still run the risk it may not work.
[07:29] <jcjordyn120> what would cause dpkg to segfault while reading *.list files?
[07:30] <priporg> UbuntuDude, I always leave dependencies alone; never remove them, just in case.
[07:31] <home> i need help
[07:32] <ObrienDave> yes, we know. apparently you don't understand that in order to help you, we need clear and concise questions and/or information
[07:33] <home> what information do you need?
[07:34] <ducasse> home: just use the sources.list i posted earlier, or the repogen someone else posted.
[07:34] <pronet> The Info about your problem..
[07:34] <ObrienDave> home, read up ^^^^        CygnusX1_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/538676/etc-apt-source-list-not-found
[07:35] <ObrienDave> people HAVE been trying to help you, either you're not following it or not paying attention. FOCUS
[07:36] <goutham> hii guys
[07:37] <home> gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:37] <home> asked for password
[07:37] <home> and nothing happened
[07:37] <cfhowlett> of course it did .. you used sudo
[07:38] <ducasse> home: you can't execute sources.list, it's not a script/program
[07:38] <cfhowlett> nothing happened because you did not specify and editor
[07:38] <home> how to specify editor
[07:39] <cfhowlett> gksudo vim or nano or gedit filename
[07:40] <priporg> what does the gk in gksudo mean?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> priporg, man gksudo will tell you
[07:40] <priporg> ok
[07:41] <metaresolve> lost my bookmark: best ubuntu learning guide?
[07:41] <hateball> !manual | metaresolve
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !manual | metaresolve is the usual suggestion
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !fcm | metaresolve also well worth reading
[07:42] <metaresolve> ty
[07:42] <jcjordyn120> never mind I got it, it was a filesystem error.
[07:43] <metaresolve> btw, found my bookmark, this is the one someone else recommended to me: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/book1.htm
[07:45] <priporg> is there a way to force nouveau driver to do 3D acceleration?
[07:48] <msettah> hello all; I'm hoping someone can help ... I changed my ".profile" but made a mistake, saved it, and now my terminal doesn't show a prompt or accept input it keeps looping. How do I get back into .profile if my terminal is the way I see "invisible" files?
[07:49] <priporg> msettah, undo the mistake?
[07:50] <msettah> well thats what I want to do but the problem is that I edited the .profile in nano and exited the file
[07:51] <kriptarium> You can't type anything in your terminal anymore ?
[07:51] <goutham> hii guys,I'm new to ubuntu .Can u tell me how to use vpn in ubuntu
[07:51] <msettah> no
[07:52] <msettah> that was for kriptarium
[07:52] <ObrienDave> goutham, look at vpnbook.com
[07:52] <wiselydoesit> gotta love youtube-dl, just happily downloading a full youtube channel :D
[07:52] <goutham> thanks ObrienDave
[07:53] <wiselydoesit> msettah, you might wanna look at a more personal/reliable service such as grabbing a free Amazon EC2 box and just tunneling through that.
[07:53] <kriptarium> Put the terminal in fullscreen
[07:53] <kriptarium> and try to acces with your mouse to the options in the bar
[07:53] <priporg> msettah, login under a different sudoer account and fix the .profile?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> msettah, bettter yet, login as root and delete the current .profile then reset it properly
[07:54] <sudhirkhanger> Hi when I use swap file instead of hibernating my system simply locks. There is no hibernation done. What can I do?
[07:55] <priporg> cfhowlett, how you login as root?
[07:55] <msettah> how do I do that delete .profile and login as root is terminal isn't accepting input
[07:55] <cfhowlett> msettah, FIRST login as root THEN delete the profile.  upon reboot it will reset to factory settings
[07:56] <priporg> cfhowlett, he wants to know how to login as root without a terminal. I'm curious too.
[07:56] <msettah> but I thought  I needed a terminal to login as root, how do you do that other wise cfhowlett
[07:56] <cfhowlett> msettah, yes you can.  reboot, bring up grub
[07:56] <cfhowlett> !recover | msettah
[07:57] <cfhowlett> !root
[07:57] <cfhowlett> ignore the !recover option
[07:59] <msettah> just for clarity grup accepts input the same way as when you're in a termainal? if I go to grub I'll use the same commands as I would in a terminal
[08:01] <msettah> ^*grub
[08:01] <goutham> anyone there?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> !recovery | msettah
[08:02] <priporg> msettah, yes?
[08:03] <goutham> how to use vpnbook
[08:03] <goutham> ?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> !vpn | goutham
[08:04] <wiselydoesit> ^^^
[08:04] <wiselydoesit> goutham, do you have a VPN provider?
[08:04] <goutham> I know about vpn
[08:04] <goutham> but i want to use it!!
[08:05] <ObrienDave> goutham, vpnbook is free
[08:05] <goutham> no wiserydoesit
[08:05] <msettah> okay, I'm going to try it, thanks for your help!
[08:05] <goutham> l*
[08:05] <goutham> ObrienDave,I downloaded a bundle
[08:06] <kostkon> !tab | goutham
[08:06] <ObrienDave> ok, instructions are on the website
  got this error E: The list of sources could not be read.
[08:06] <wiselydoesit> ObrienDave, you rate vpnbook for privacy/security?
[08:07] <goutham> thank u guys
[08:07] <wiselydoesit> the facts its free and hosted in romania and is using lousy encryption doesn't bother you?
[08:07] <ObrienDave> meh, i would not trust any VPN 100%
[08:07] <cfhowlett> more red flags than North Korea ...
[08:07] <wiselydoesit> lol
[08:07] <idosedthekoolaid> lol
[08:08] <idosedthekoolaid> cryptostorm run a decent lil free vpn
[08:08] <idosedthekoolaid> iirc cryptostorm.is
[08:08] <wiselydoesit> +1 idosedthekoolaid cryptostorm is the nuts
[08:08] <wiselydoesit> held a subscription for a while, there token system and the fact they take coin is a plus.
[08:08] <idosedthekoolaid> pay service is krunk, you can buy a toke from a 3rd party however you like, they never gotta communicate w/u
[08:09] <idosedthekoolaid> haha beat me 2 it
[08:09] <sruli1> how to i add a dir with scripts to visudo
[08:11] <wiselydoesit> if i was buying things from AB or TRDM i'd use cryptostorm, for IRC and general browsing i chose an Amazon EC2 box and sshuttle in.
[08:12] <goutham> guys,what about tor?
[08:13] <ObrienDave> it works
[08:13] <sudhirkhanger> What is the difference between canonical partners repo and multiverse/restricted?
[08:13] <goutham> whats difference?
[08:13] <ObrienDave> different packages
[08:13] <goutham> tor and vpns?
[08:13] <ObrienDave> sudhirkhanger, different packages
[08:14] <goutham> We're sorry, but this video is not available in your region due to right restrictions
[08:14] <goutham> I'm getting the above error
[08:15] <wiselydoesit> goutham, the difference between Tor and a VPN is like a white paper of an answer.
[08:15] <goutham> while downloading a tv show
[08:15] <goutham> Do u mean no difference>?
[08:15] <sudhirkhanger> ObrienDave: what differentiates them? Main, Universe, Multiverse, and Restricted are all well defined. Canonical Partners I am not able to find much info. It's also not listed in the Synaptics.
[08:15] <ducasse> !ot | goutham
[08:16] <wiselydoesit> Tor routes your data via 6 random people to mask origin, a VPN connects directly to a single server which then becomes your internet facing IP address, thats about as much as i can simplify it and as ducasse says this is #ubuntu.  you should try ##networking or something.
[08:16] <ObrienDave> sud, if you enable partners repo, it will appear in synaptics. i use synaptics all of the time
[08:17] <home> i got brokencount>0 error
[08:17] <home> so i used sudo apt-get purge
[08:18] <ObrienDave> home, sudo apt-get -f install
[08:18] <ObrienDave> fixes broken packages
[08:19] <home> Reading package lists... Error!
[08:19] <home> E: Type 'cat' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:19] <home> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[08:19] <home> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[08:19] <wiselydoesit> on a more ubuntu note, am i the only person really looking forward to Unity 8
[08:19] <ducasse> home: your sources.list is broken, make a proper one.
[08:19] <ObrienDave> pretty much, yes ;P
[08:19] <wiselydoesit> i try it like once a week and add some snaps to Libertine and its getting better and better.
[08:19] <wiselydoesit> lol thank Obrien
[08:19] <home> how
[08:20] <wiselydoesit> i have a touchscreen laptop which must make a difference i suppose the UI is seriously nice on a touch device.
[08:20] <ducasse> home: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:22] <sudhirkhanger> ObrienDave: if you go to origin section of synaptics there is no canonical partners repo just like main, universe, multiverse, restricted.
[08:22] <home> ducasse, generated list
[08:23] <ducasse> home: then save it as /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:24] <home> saved it
[08:24] <LinuxNovice> after much distrohopping, I have a feeling that Ubuntu is the linux distro suitable for my needs.
[08:25] <home> Reading package lists... Done
[08:25] <home> W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max
[08:25] <home> W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-min
[08:25] <home> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:25] <ducasse> home: then 'sudo apt update'
[08:25] <ducasse> !paste | home
[08:26] <ObrienDave> sudhirkhanger, it shows up as archive.canonical.com
[08:27] <home> ducasse, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23726612/
[08:29] <ducasse> home: you have a problem with some ppa, those are not packages from the ubuntu repos.
[08:29] <home> how to recorrect it?
[08:30] <LinuxNovice> hello, I need some help. I have lubuntu and another distro installed on my laptop. Dual booting. I want to remove the other distro and retain lubuntu only. That other was installed second. When I delete the partition containing that I can't boot into the system. Grub menu doesn't show up. What to do?
[08:31] <ducasse> home: it's just a warning, not a fatal error, so your system should still work.
[08:31] <ale> hola
[08:31] <ducasse> !ppa | home to fix, see this
[08:37] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello All. I am using Ubuntu Mate 16.04. Everytime I start to copy/paste a large number of files from one folder to another, the file manager (Caja) hangs ... and I have to resort to command line
[08:37] <Mr_Cyclops> Any clues?
[08:37] <home> ducasse, are you present
[08:37] <ducasse> !pm | home
[08:38] <LinuxNovice> hello..
[08:38] <idosedthekoolaid> i dunno Mr_Cyclops have you tried updating to newest pkges and restarting?
[08:38] <home>  ducasse, how to recover to orginal ppa
[08:38] <idosedthekoolaid> hi lin
[08:38] <idosedthekoolaid> hi LinuxNovice
[08:38] <LinuxNovice> hi.
[08:38] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello idosedthekoolaid , yes, all the time, even today, did that, restarted, but then again the same issue :(
[08:38] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[08:39] <idosedthekoolaid> Mr_Cyclops, poop
[08:39] <ducasse> !ppa-purge | home remove the ppa entirely
[08:39] <Mr_Cyclops> it copies/moves a few files, and then just hangs and I have to xkill the file copy dialog window or Caja
[08:39] <Mr_Cyclops> poop?
[08:39] <Mr_Cyclops> :-)
[08:39] <idosedthekoolaid> i'd probably use a different file manager as annoying as that may be
[08:39] <idosedthekoolaid> or just cmdline
[08:40] <idosedthekoolaid> thought that is a shit answer
[08:40] <idosedthekoolaid> considering you already are doing that :/
[08:40] <ubuntu-mate> It make me crazy. my firefox ver 50 clash all the time..
[08:40] <cfhowlett> drop the profanity in this channel idosedthekoolaid.
[08:40] <Mr_Cyclops> :-) np .. yeah no worries ... I am a LInux admin myself, so tried the basic stuff, but then had no clue why would a file manager behave like that, so came here
[08:40] <idosedthekoolaid> sure thing ;)
[08:41] <idosedthekoolaid> er i mean sure thing cfhowlett
[08:41] <LinuxNovice> I need some help guys. I have Lubuntu and another distro installed on my laptop. Want to remove the other. When I tried last time, I was unable to boot into the system. Grub menu didn't show up. What to do. The other distro was installed after Lubuntu and during installation it installed grub also, I think. I am new to linux.
[08:41] <home> ducasse, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23726641/
[08:41] <Mr_Cyclops> Can you suggest a file manager that works seemlessly with mate? since Caja seems to be pretty much integrated for mate
[08:42] <ducasse> home: you need to enable 'universe' repo
[08:42] <home> how?
[08:43] <LinuxNovice> hello, any help guys?
[08:44] <ducasse> home: i've gtg - work to do, wait and see if someone else can help.
[08:44] <raju> Hello, everyone. I have a trouble upgrading my Dell BIOS .
[08:44] <home> ubottu,org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.67'}): org.debian.apt.update-cache
[08:44] <raju> Please help me.
[08:44] <dave4925_> sweet you screwed your motherboard
[08:45] <home> org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.67'}): org.debian.apt.update-cache
[08:45] <cfhowlett> dell makes a bios update tool, raju.  use it.
[08:45] <home> check and help
[08:45] <raju> I get an error saying 'This program cannot be run in DOS mode'.
[08:45] <LinuxNovice> hello, am I invisible here?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> raju, wait are you talking about the windows update tool?
[08:46] <Ben64> raju: you're not even on ubuntu, your issue isn't an ubuntu issue, go to ##windows or ##hardware
[08:46] <idosedthekoolaid> LinuxNovice, frankly if it's a new install i'd wipe it all and install the one I want and call it a day.
[08:46] <raju> cfhowlett: No, I am using Ubuntu.
[08:46] <idosedthekoolaid> there are ways to get it to jive, but if it's fresh anyhow, why bother
[08:46] <cfhowlett> raju, what is the name of the tool you are using
[08:47] <LinuxNovice> I have two Linux OSs installed. Want to remove one and retain the other.
[08:47] <home>  cfhowlett,  org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.67'}): org.debian.apt.update-cache
[08:47] <raju> cfhowlett: I followed the instructions at https://www.chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/.
[08:47] <idosedthekoolaid> right.
[08:48] <Ben64> raju: still not an ubuntu issue
[08:48] <idosedthekoolaid> what you're going to want to do is use a partitioner like gparted to delete/reappropriate the partition(s) used for the one going buyebye
[08:48] <cfhowlett> raju, right so you decided NOT to the use the dell bios upgrade tool.  not an ubuntu issue
[08:48] <LinuxNovice> how can I know where the grub is installed and how can I edit that?
[08:48] <home> got error while updating archive in software sources
[08:48] <idosedthekoolaid> and then use a livecd to boot and repair Grub
[08:48] <LinuxNovice> yes. I am using gparted.
[08:48] <raju> cfhowlett: How do I fix that ??
[08:48] <idosedthekoolaid> assuming it's using the Grub bootloader
[08:48] <Anant> I am trying to update... using sudo apt-get update but I have got the error "bad header line"
[08:49] <Anant> how can  I solve it
[08:49] <home> pls help me
[08:49] <cfhowlett> raju, go to google.  look for "dell bios upgrade tool linux".  follow directions
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !patience | home
[08:49] <LinuxNovice> I open gparted, just delete the partition where the other distro is installed.
[08:49] <idosedthekoolaid> LinuxNovice, http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[08:49] <Anant> is any body there?
[08:49] <Anant> I am trying to update... using sudo apt-get update but I have got the error "bad header line"
[08:50] <Ben64> !patience | Anant
[08:50] <idosedthekoolaid> LinuxNovice,  http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[08:50] <LinuxNovice> and when I restart , I can't find the grub menu.
[08:50] <idosedthekoolaid> those should help out :)
[08:50] <idosedthekoolaid> right that is where the live cd and repairing Grub come in
[08:50] <lasersaber> how do i kill a frozen app?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> home no no and no.  do not send me anything via dcc especially without even asking first.
[08:50] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[08:50] <idosedthekoolaid> lasersaber, killall <appname>
[08:50] <idosedthekoolaid> or killall -9 <appname>
[08:50] <LinuxNovice> I'll try that.
[08:51] <home> sorry cfhowlett
[08:51] <idosedthekoolaid> or if appname isn't jiving, ps -e | more then find the app in the list...get its process it
[08:51] <idosedthekoolaid> then kill -9 <processid>
[08:51] <ubuntu-mate> my live usb is ubutun-mate which is created by mkusb with the distribution iso call ubuntu-mate
[08:51] <lasersaber> idosedthekoolaid, is there a "force kill" icon i can add to the taskbar panel?
[08:52] <idosedthekoolaid> good luck LinuxNovice :)
[08:52] <idosedthekoolaid> there *is* an "xkill"
[08:52] <idosedthekoolaid> it's a separate program
[08:52] <idosedthekoolaid> but if you apt-get install xkill you cancreate a shortcut to it
[08:52] <idosedthekoolaid> and when you click shortcut, it'll have you point cursor at app to kill and viola
[08:52] <dave4925_> you don't need software, we have gun rights in America
[08:53] <cfhowlett> dave4925_, let's keep it on toic here.
[08:53] <idosedthekoolaid> ^hooah!
[08:53] <idosedthekoolaid> *belch*
[08:53] <idosedthekoolaid> hehe
[08:53] <dave4925_> lol
[08:53] <dave4925_> sorry
[08:53] <idosedthekoolaid> in all srsness though <3 mah guns
 what happened?
[08:53] <idosedthekoolaid> need to clean my AR but that's *slightly* ot
[08:53] <idosedthekoolaid> hehe
[08:53] <cfhowlett> in all seriousness, the guidelines apply to you too.  stay on topic
[08:54] <idosedthekoolaid> wow bro
[08:54] <idosedthekoolaid> you wanna scroll up and checkchat has been off topic? what % of my
[08:54] <idosedthekoolaid> wow touchpad thanks
[08:54] <lasersaber> idosedthekoolaid, Unable to locate package xkill
[08:54] <Anant> I have also tried update from GUI software updater. but there I also got the error...  "not all updates can be installed" and there is a option for partial update ehat should I do?
[08:54] <idosedthekoolaid> weird lasersaber
[08:54] <Anant> hello
[08:55] <dave4925_> hahahha
[08:55] <Anant> hello
[08:55] <Anant> I have also tried update from GUI software updater. but there I also got the error...  "not all updates can be installed" and there is a option for partial update ehat should I do?
[08:55] <ubuntu-mate> Add-ons: ubufox%40ubuntu.com:3.2,%7Bbee6eb20-01e0-ebd1-da83-080329fb9a3a%7D:2.03,%7B19503e42-ca3c-4c27-b1e2-9cdb2170ee34%7D:1.5.6.14,%7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D:50.1.0,%7Bd10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d%7D:2.8.2,firefox%40getpocket.com:1.0.5,webcompat%40mozilla.org:1.0,aushelper%40mozilla.org:1.0,e10srollout%40mozilla.org:1.5
[08:55] <ubuntu-mate> AddonsShouldHaveBlockedE10s: 1
[08:55] <ubuntu-mate> BuildID: 20161209093710
[08:55] <ubuntu-mate> ContentSandboxCapabilities: 117
[08:55] <ubuntu-mate> CrashTime: 1483347283
[08:55] <ubuntu-mate> E10SCohort: disqualified-test
[08:56] <Anant> is anybody there who can help me
[08:56] <lasersaber> !flood ubuntu-mate
[08:56] <Anant> ?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !help | Anant,
[08:56] <Anant> I have also tried update from GUI software updater. but there I also got the error...  "not all updates can be installed" and there is a option for partial update ehat should I do?
[08:56] <geirha> xkill is in the x11-utils package, which should already be installed. just hit Alt+F2 to get the run dialog, and run "xkill"
[08:56] <ubuntu-mate> rollout","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"version":"1.5","scope":1,"type":"extension","foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":17143,"updateDay":17143,"isSystem":true},"ubufox@ubuntu.com":{"blocklisted":false,"description":"Ubuntu modifications for Firefox","name":"Ubuntu Modifications","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"version":"3.2","scope":8,"type":"extension","foreignInstall":true,"hasBinaryC
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Anant, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[08:56] <ubuntu-mate> omponents":false,"installDay":16696,"updateDay":16696,"signedState":2,"isSystem":false},"{d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}":{"blocklisted":false,"description":"Ads were yesterday!","name":"Adblock Plus","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"version":"2.8.2","scope":1,"type":"extension","foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":17167,"updateDay":17167,"signedState":2,"isSystem":false},"{bee6eb20-01e0-ebd1-
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> da83-080329fb9a3a}":{"blocklisted":false,"description":"Download flash games and videos with a single click.","name":"Flash and Video Download","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"version":"2.03","scope":1,"type":"extension","foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":17167,"updateDay":17167,"signedState":2,"isSystem":false},"{19503e42-ca3c-4c27-b1e2-9cdb2170ee34}":{"blocklisted":false,"description":"Enables
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> single and massive (\"all\" and \"selection\") downloads using the most popular external downloa","name":"FlashGot","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"version":"1.5.6.14","scope":1,"type":"extension","foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":17167,"updateDay":17167,"signedState":2,"isSystem":false}},"theme":{"id":"{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}","blocklisted":false,"description":"The default
[08:57] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, stop that
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> theme.","name":"Default","userDisabled":false,"appDisabled":false,"version":"50.1.0","scope":4,"foreignInstall":false,"hasBinaryComponents":false,"installDay":17143,"updateDay":17143},"activePlugins":[{"name":"Shockwave Flash","version":"","description":"Shockwave Flash 24.0 r0","blocklisted":false,"disabled":false,"clicktoplay":false,"mimeTypes":["application/x-shockwave-flash","application/futuresplash"],"updateDay":17168}],"activeGM
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> Plugins":{"gmp-gmpopenh264":{"version":"1.6","userDisabled":false,"applyBackgroundUpdates":1}},"activeExperiment":{},"persona":null}}
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> Theme: classic/1.0
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> Throttleable: 1
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> URL: about:sessionrestore
[08:57] <idosedthekoolaid> lol
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> UptimeTS: 95.10047902
[08:57] <cfhowlett> !paste | ubuntu-mate
[08:57] <ubuntu-mate> Vendor: Mozilla
[08:57] <idosedthekoolaid> it's on topic though, and not profane X^D
[08:58] <idosedthekoolaid> lasersaber, quoting for emphasis: <geirha> xkill is in the x11-utils package, which should already be installed. just hit Alt+F2 to get the run dialog, and run "xkill"
[08:58] <ubuntu-mate> I am newsbie and sorry about that. I will take screen shot next.
[08:58] <idosedthekoolaid> no worries ubuntu-mate
[08:59] <geirha> lasersaber: The cursor will change to an X, next window you click on will be killed
[08:59] <home> !help me
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !patienc | home,
[09:00] <Anant> I am trying to update... using sudo apt-get update but I have got the error "bad header line"     can any body knows why this error came and what is the solution?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !patience | home,
[09:00] <lasersaber> idosedthekoolaid, i found a tutorial :) http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/09/easily-kill-frozen-locked-up-app-window-ubuntu
[09:00] <idosedthekoolaid> lasersaber, you will want to marry it it is way convenient
[09:00] <idosedthekoolaid> kool beans :)
[09:00] <lasersaber> idosedthekoolaid, thanks though
[09:01] <idosedthekoolaid> no prob bob :)
[09:01] <sruli1> how to i add a dir with scripts to visudo
[09:01] <sudhirkhanger> How much swap should I consider if I want to use hibernation? I have 16gb ram. I see two options floating around 20gb or 24gb.
[09:02] <idosedthekoolaid> now i'm going to leave yall to it, hopefully cfhowlett will have fun scolding everyone and issuing commands. enjoy being super 133t and helpful and important!
[09:02] <Anant> while I am triyng to update by "sudo apt-get update"
[09:02] <Anant> Get:1 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease [247 kB] Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [102 kB] Get:3 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease [102 kB]     Get:4 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease [102 kB] Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 Packages [195 kB] Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-secur
[09:03] <Anant> Reading package lists... Done E: GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[09:03] <ducasse> sudhirkhanger: you need at least the size of your physical ram to hibernate
[09:03] <geirha> sruli1: just add the trailing /, and all executable files inside that directory will be subject for the rule
[09:03] <Anant> Reading package lists... Done E: GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[09:04] <home> ducasse help me
[09:04] <sruli1> geirha: thanks
[09:05] <ducasse> home: STOP pm'ing people! you've been told twice already.
[09:05] <home> ducasse , You don't have the required privileges to perform this action.
[09:06] <Anant> what is the bad header line error during updating
[09:06] <ducasse> home: what are you trying to do? which command are you running?
[09:06] <LinuxNovice> hello..
[09:06] <Ben64> Anant: nobody knows because you haven't really given enough information
[09:06] <home> ducasse, while selecting universe  in software sources
[09:06] <geirha> Anant: Could be that mirror (in.archive.ubuntu.com) is having a hickup. Try temporarily switching to the main server
[09:07] <ducasse> home: did you select it in the repogen you used to create sources.list earlier?
[09:07] <Anant> geirha: should I try reinstalling the ibuntu
[09:07] <home> yes
[09:08] <geirha> Anant: No
[09:08] <sruli1> geirha: what do i put instead of 'user' if i want the visudo rule to apply to all users?
[09:08] <ducasse> home: 'sudo update-manager'
[09:09] <Anant> geirha: I have internet connection from my college library with the secured proxy. is error becouse of this
[09:10] <geirha> sruli1: just create a group you put "all" users in, and use that group in sudoers
[09:10] <sruli1> thanks
[09:10] <home> ducasse, software on this computer is upto date
[09:11] <ducasse> home: click 'settinngs'
[09:11] <home> ducasse: done
[09:11] <ducasse> sruli1: you can also use 'ALL', according to the man page
[09:12] <ducasse> home: then enable universe.
[09:14] <home> ducasse, sudo update-manager
[09:14] <home> [sudo] password for home:
[09:14] <home> (software-properties-gtk:4201): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/home/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[09:14] <home> Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
[09:15] <ducasse> home: 'sudo chown -R home.home /home/home/.config/'
[09:16] <sebsebseb> hi
[09:17] <home> ducasse, after  that
[09:17] <ducasse> home: now you should be able to install ppa-purge
[09:19] <home> ducasse,  sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[09:19] <home> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:19] <home> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:20] <ducasse> home: close update-manager first, and stop pasting multiline pastes into the channel - use paste.ubuntu.com
[09:20] <home> closed update manager
[09:24] <ducasse> home: then try again, and read this on how to use it:
[09:24] <ducasse> !ppa-purge | home
[09:26] <home> ducasse, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23726752/
[09:29] <ducasse> home: 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*' then try 'sudo apt update' again
[09:29] <home> rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[09:29] <raju> cfhowlett: I tried what you said and I think I bricked my pen drive. Can you please help me ?
[09:29] <ducasse> home: that's ok.
[09:30] <raju> ikonia: You there, bro ?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> raju, detsail
[09:33] <cfhowlett> details?
[09:35] <raju> cfhowlett: I tried the solutions at http://askubuntu.com/questions/100945/how-do-i-update-the-bios-of-a-dell-laptop .
[09:35] <raju> cfhowlett: But the I get a mount error on the pendrive.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> raju, here's something that is not 6 years out of date  http://www.dell.com/support/Article/jp/ja/jpbsd1/SLN171755/EN
[09:41] <raju> cfhowlett: I am getting confused in the link that you provided. Which ISO of freedos do I download ??
[09:41] <cfhowlett> raju, the latest verison
[09:42] <angel-swe> Hi... how do I update & upgrade my ubuntu in terminal
[09:42] <angel-swe> there was a change with apt-get and apt only
[09:42] <sebsebseb> angel-swe: which version  you on now?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> angel-swe, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[09:43] <angel-swe> sebsebseb, How do I check the version?
[09:43] <sebsebseb> !version
[09:43] <home> ducasse, removed ppa from gtk software properties
[09:43] <raju> cfhowlett: There are a lot of options there. Which one do I install :- Standard, Legacy or another ?
[09:45] <sebsebseb> cfhowlett: what's the difference between that and sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[09:45] <angel-swe> sebsebseb, Ubuntu 16.10
[09:45] <cfhowlett> none of those apply here raju.  no idea what you are looking at
[09:45] <sebsebseb> angel-swe: then there is no new version to ugprade to, only security updates to install if anything
[09:46] <cfhowlett> sebsebseb, sebsebseb do-release-upgrade changes ubuntu versions.  full-upgrade does not
[09:46] <raju> cfhowlett: See the problem is My wifi adapter stopped working in my ubuntu. Even after doing numerous things, nothing helped.
[09:46] <cfhowlett> and ... ?
[09:46] <raju> cfhowlett: So, Blueskaj suggested that I do a BIOS update and that is why I am asking you for help.
[09:46] <sebsebseb> cfhowlett: ok wll I just did a do releae upgrade, 16.04 to 16.10 that was the intention
[09:47] <cfhowlett> eyp
[09:47] <sebsebseb> cfhowlett: still going to hae to re install this system eventually though,  since previous issues with the unity 8 ppa etc, but yeah
[09:47] <cfhowlett> raju, OK.  follow the link guide
[09:48] <angel-swe> So how do I do the update sebsebseb with apt or apt-get
[09:48] <sebsebseb> !upgrade
[09:48] <sebsebseb> !update
[09:49] <cfhowlett> udpate or upgrade, angel-swe?  be precise
[09:50] <raju> cfhowlett: I am following the guide in the link. I am pretty sure that I do not have a UEFI capsule supported device. Second, My system is of before 2015. Thirdly, I am getting stuck at FreeDOS.
[09:50] <raju> cfhowlett: Please help me. I am getting really desperate.
[09:51] <cfhowlett> stuck at freedos = ?
[09:51] <raju> cfhowlett: Which ISO do I need to Download ?
[09:51] <angel-swe> cfhowlett, I am not sure what is an upgrade for ubuntu actually. I just want my ubuntu be up to date for security issues and improvements..
[09:52] <cfhowlett> raju, asked and answered already
[09:52] <cfhowlett> angel-swe, sudo apt full-upgrade
[09:52] <angel-swe> cfhowlett, that would update & upgrade ? both?
[09:53] <raju> cfhowlett: You mean you have no idea which iso should be installed or am I behaving as a fool ?
[09:53] <home>  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (
[09:53] <cfhowlett> raju, you already asked which freedos.  I told you the latest freedos
[09:54] <raju> cfhowlett: There are a lot of options for the latest freedos. Standard, Legacy, etc. Which one should I pick ?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> standard
[09:55] <raju> cfhowlett: Ok, let me try. Please bear with me.
[09:55] <home> Unpacking libxfce4panel-2.0-4 (4.12.0-3ubuntu2) ...
[09:55] <home> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libxfce4panel-2.0-4_4.12.0-3ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:55] <home>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0', which is also in package xfce4-panel 4.12.0-0ubuntu1~14.04
[09:55] <home> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:55] <home>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libxfce4panel-2.0-4_4.12.0-3ubuntu2_i386.deb
[09:55] <home> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:00] <BlitzCreeP> hey folks, does anyone know an free alternative to "SYNERGY" where you can share keyboard and mouse with windows and linux-systems?
[10:01] <raju> cfhowlett: Ok, I tried the steps using Standard ISO and I booted into the F12 menu but instead of USB storage Drive , I am getting an option as Diskette Drive. When I click on it, it says it is not a bootble floppy disk. What is going on ?
[10:01] <BlitzCreeP> *software kvm-switch
[10:01] <cfhowlett> raju, try the USB freedos version
[10:02] <raju> cfhowlett: USB full installer ??
[10:02] <pcdummy> BlitzCreeP: not sure whats a software-kvm switch
[10:02] <pcdummy> BlitzCreeP: share between computersß
[10:02] <pcdummy> ?
[10:02] <BlitzCreeP> where you can share your keyboard and mouse to multiple PCs
[10:03] <cfhowlett> raju, http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12LITE.zip
[10:03] <pcdummy> BlitzCreeP: i use nomachine as remote desktop solution, but thats not what you want i think.
[10:03] <BlitzCreeP> there is an old free version of synergy out, but its buggy with windows/linux
[10:03] <raju> cfhowlett: Ok, let me try.
[10:04] <BlitzCreeP> pcdummy no :/
[10:05] <pcdummy> BlitzCreeP: maybe : http://okvm.sourceforge.net/virtualkvm.html ?
[10:06] <raju> cfhowlett: After extracting the zip file, the FD12LITE.img should be loaded into the Unetbootin or what ??
[10:07] <cfhowlett> I don't do unetbootin, raj
[10:07] <home> fuck everybody
[10:08] <BlitzCreeP> pcdummy nothing that works with win and linux together :/
[10:09] <pcdummy> BlitzCreeP: sad
[10:09] <pcdummy> BlitzCreeP: then you have to give some money :/
[10:09] <BlitzCreeP> yeah prolly :/
[10:09] <raju> cfhowlett: Nope, I am still getting the same error.
[10:10] <bazhang> ##freedos for help with that raju
[10:12] <morf> hi
[10:13] <morf> do you know by any chance what package i need to be able to download photos from old phones? (no android or iphone) ... i forgot and can't find it anymore
[10:13] <bazhang> try gmtp morf
[10:14] <ducasse> morf: gammu, maybe.
[10:16] <raju> bazhang: No one is responding in ##freedos.
[10:16] <bodom> Hi there! I keep forgetting what's the name of the file that i need to edit to enable non-lts upgrades... and i keep failing to find it on google
[10:17] <bazhang> then be patient raju
[10:18] <ducasse> bazhang: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[10:18] <ducasse> sorry, bodom ^^
[10:18] <bodom> ducasse: thanks :)
[10:19] <bodom> i've now tried adding a random comment in it, so hopefully apt will not overwrite it again on next lts release :)
[10:31] <TvL2386> hey guys, which process/job is responsible for installing new kernels without asking? I found a bunch of new kernels filling up boot upto 100% on a bunch of new servers. This is done automatically.
[10:32] <angel-swe> The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/mamarley/build-dep/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file.
[10:32] <angel-swe> Getting this errors
[10:32] <angel-swe> *error
[10:35] <tayzar> anybody: my firefox profile cannot be loaded.it may be missing or inaccessible. show error !how to i fix it
[10:37] <ducasse> TvL2386: guessing unattended-upgrades
[10:38] <TvL2386> ah sounds good ducasse
[10:38] <ducasse> angel-swe: old ppa, does not have packages for yakkety (or xenial)
[10:41] <angel-swe> ducasse,  Shall I do anything? clean that thing from my pc or?
[10:42] <pcdummy> TvL2386: unattended-upgrades i think
[10:42] <pcdummy> ahh you good an answer
[10:42] <pcdummy> got
[10:43] <Tortuga> hello
[10:43] <TvL2386> yeah thanks :)
[10:43] <TvL2386> it is
[10:44] <ducasse> angel-swe: well, you can't use it, so yes.
[10:44] <TvL2386> I'm in doubt whether to allow unattended security upgrades on production servers...
[10:45] <ducasse> TvL2386: you can edit the config file to exclude certain packages
[10:46] <ducasse> TvL2386: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades iirc
[10:48] <morf> actually i was missing libmtp-runtime for getting the photos from old phone ... but thanks anyway
[10:49] <non> hi! maybe someone can help me with this: files is kinda broken with themes, looking like http://i.imgur.com/LVpANSo.png - is there a way to fix this?
[10:51] <sruli1> tomreyn: hi, you around? with regard to the kernel updates you helped me last week with. i wrote a script to check kernel date and install if it meets critieria, script works fine, i hooked it on to apt update "APT::Update:: {"sudo /path/to/script";};"  added path to sudoers file, it works fine when i call apt update in terminal, but when i do a gui check updates, the script runs upto the point of install, it doesnt install it, in my log file i see "could not 
[10:56] <zcoyz> anyone here know anthing about epay.info ?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> zcoyz if you want answers, don't ask "... anyone ..." questions.  state YOUR issues and YOUR specifications
[10:56] <tayzar> hello
[10:57] <zcoyz> I am not allowed to ask questions here?
[10:57] <sebsebseb> yes
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !details | zcoyz,
[10:58] <zcoyz> I am tring to figure out how to secure my epay account and it is alluding me... therefore I asked first who amy know anthing regarding epay as to not waste peoples time.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> zcoyz, best you ask paypal about paypal support issues.
[10:58] <zcoyz> epay is not paypal
[10:58] <zcoyz> lol
[10:59] <ducasse> zcoyz: it is still not ubuntu
[10:59] <cfhowlett> take it to epay zcoyz
[11:13] <mostrilla> ciao a tutti
[11:14] <mostrilla> list
[11:15] <ducasse> !list | mostrilla
[11:18] <LinuxNovice> which buntu is suitable for a laptop of 1 gb or less RAM and about 1 Ghz single core cpu.
[11:18] <LinuxNovice> ?
[11:19] <ducasse> LinuxNovice: try lubuntu
[11:20] <LinuxNovice> ok. Any other?
[11:20] <LinuxNovice> More beginner friendly?
[11:20] <LinuxNovice> What about Ubuntu Mate?
[11:20] <ducasse> LinuxNovice: maybe xubuntu, mate after that.
[11:20] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, try it and see
[11:21] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, you can isntall several and choose from the login window
[11:21] <mcphail> LinuxNovice: are you asking this question on a daily basis?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> exactly1
[11:21] <LinuxNovice> ok. Xfce is more lightweight than Mate?
[11:21] <bazhang> only you can say what is or is not friendly LinuxNovice
[11:22] <LinuxNovice> No. I and my friend use the same computer.
[11:22] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, find out yourself, please dont continue polling here
[11:22] <LinuxNovice> We intend to migrate to Linux entirely.
[11:22] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, that means trying things out yourself
[11:23] <LinuxNovice> ok
[11:23] <RageCraze> guys help please! i installed ubuntu yesterday and everything was working great, i restart the laptop and there is no internet connection, what do i do?
[11:24] <RageCraze> ifconfig gave me this yesterday: http://pastebin.com/vcmXnqYk
[11:25] <ubuntu-mate> I found the command "sudo apt-get install -f" can fix particular software error such as firefox suddenly clash.
[11:28] <masterkorp> hello everyone
[11:29] <masterkorp> Can anyone point me the security announce for ubuntu (USN) about the PHP 7 security update http://thehackernews.com/2016/12/php-7-update.html
[11:47] <angel-swe> There is an envolope icon top right wich contains Phone calls adn sms.... how do I disable / remove those as I don't even know why they are there for.
[12:04] <angel-swe> There is an envolope icon top right wich contains Phone calls adn sms.... how do I disable / remove those as I don't even know why they are there for.
[12:05] <jezza> hey guys, what tool do you use to check the health of your hard drives?
[12:06] <Pozzo> jezza: smartctl
[12:07] <jezza> Pozzo: Is this a gui or cli?
[12:07] <Pozzo> jezza: if you want a gui : in your ubuntu dash : disk
[12:07] <jezza> Pozzo: Thanks mate
[12:07] <Pozzo> but of course you have to install smartmontools package first
[12:08] <jezza> Pozzo: Cheers, just wanted a recommendation as there are loads of tools out there lol
[12:20] <cfoch> Hi. Why do I have two "automake": automake and automake-1.15 packages?
[12:20] <cfoch> binaries
[12:20] <cfoch> do you have both?
[12:21] <Guest12551> Can someone help me out with this? My USB drive is coming up as read only and I have no idea how to change it.
[12:21] <angel-swe> No one even seen my question I guess
[12:21] <EriC^^> Guest12551: type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:22] <Guest12551> http://termbin.com/i2y7
[12:22] <ducasse> cfoch: the first one is a symlink to the actual version through the alternatives system, so that more than one version can be installed
[12:22] <EriC^^> Guest12551: try sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/lubuntu/5A0088742D1C775C
[12:23] <ifgem> Hello:)
[12:23] <Haris> hello all
[12:23] <Guest12551> "mount: cannot remount /dev/sdb1 read-write, is write-protected"
[12:24] <EriC^^> Guest12551: maybe the usb has a switch on the side or something?
[12:24] <Guest12551> It does, I tried it both ends of the switch and I get the same problem.
[12:24] <Guest12551> It was working before I formatted it in GParted, perhaps that caused the problem?
[12:24] <ifgem> I have some problems with dual boot(windows, ubuntu): my boot is set in ntfs, so I can't check esp option. What should I do?:)
[12:25] <EriC^^> Guest12551: seems unlikely
[12:25] <EriC^^> Guest12551: try to zero it out and format again maybe
[12:25] <Guest12551> Just unplugged, tried the switch again, still an error.
[12:25] <cfhowlett> esp option?
[12:25] <Guest12551> Zero it out? Not sure what you mean.
[12:26] <EriC^^> ifgem: did you install ubuntu yet?
[12:26] <EriC^^> Guest12551: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[12:26] <EriC^^> Guest12551: make sure of the disk name first with lsblk
[12:27] <Guest12551> It's sdb, like you said.
[12:27] <ifgem> EriC^^, no I didn't
[12:27] <EriC^^> ifgem: are you in the live usb right now?
[12:27] <Guest12551> Command returned this error: "dd: failed to open '/dev/sdb': Read-only file system"
[12:27] <SagelessFox> hey anyone here?
[12:27] <ifgem> EriC^^, yes:)
[12:28] <EriC^^> Guest12551: oh, right
[12:28] <Haris> on ubuntu 14.4 lts/apache2, I am showing a request having been logged with timestamp that was some mins behind .. around the time it was logged in accesss log. difference is around 8 mins. Is this possible ? does it relate to NTP activity or could have been caused by something else ?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu question SagelessFox
[12:28] <EriC^^> ifgem: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:28] <EriC^^> Guest12551: does "dmesg | tail" show anything interesting?
[12:28] <Haris> looks like apache logging continued to function around this event
[12:28] <Guest12551> I'll check it out.
[12:29] <SagelessFox> I was running root@X-PC:~# apt update && apt upgrade命中:1 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[12:29] <SagelessFox> on a terminal. It showed me something like 已下载 102 kB，耗时 24秒 (4,150 B/s)
[12:29] <SagelessFox> 正在读取软件包列表... 完成
[12:29] <SagelessFox> E: 无法下载 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/multiverse/dep11/icons-64x64.tar  无法打开文件 /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_xenial-security_multiverse_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz - open (13: 权限不够) [IP: 91.189.88.162 80]
[12:29] <SagelessFox> E: 部分索引文件下载失败。如果忽略它们，那将转而使用旧的索引文件。
[12:29] <EriC^^> !paste | SagelessFox
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !cn | SagelessFox
[12:29] <SagelessFox> OK..cool
[12:30] <Guest12551> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23727324/ @EriC^^
[12:31] <cfhowlett> SagelessFox, if you understand english, do sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | LC_All=C
[12:32] <Guest12551> EriC^^: any ideas?
[12:32] <EriC^^> Guest12551: nope, sorry
[12:32] <Guest12551> :l
[12:33] <Guest12551> It worked perfectly fine before I formatted it
[12:33] <Guest12551> Not really sure what happened
[12:34] <EriC^^> Guest12551: if it can't dd to it, then maybe it's a hardware issue
[12:34] <EriC^^> cause dd doesn't care what's mounted and stuff
[12:34] <SagelessFox> yes I can. full upgrade, are you sure?
[12:34] <SagelessFox> what I see is just permission problems...I suppose
[12:34] <Guest12551> EriC^^: I'll try my other reader
[12:35] <EriC^^> Guest12551: maybe the switch is stuck, or maybe try another usb port
[12:35] <EriC^^> Guest12551: do you have a live usb you could boot so you know you're not missing any driver files or something for it?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> SagelessFox, if you understand english, do sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | LC_All=C | pastebinit
[12:36] <Guest12551> EriC^^: Success! My other reader works, no read-only issue
[12:36] <kishori> hello
[12:36] <EriC^^> Guest12551: aha cool
[12:37] <SagelessFox> cfhowlett the error msg is something similar to "E: Could not download http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/multiverse/dep11/icons-64x64.tar cannot open the file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_xenial-security_multiverse_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz - open (13: permission denied) [IP: 91.189.88.162 80]
[12:37] <SagelessFox> 下午8:29:16 - SagelessFox: E: Failed to download some indexes。If you choose to ignore them，the old ones will be used。"
[12:37] <kishori> ^aq: hi
[12:37] <EriC^^> quick question, is it just me or has anyone else not had any updates since dec 21? 16.04.1 here
[12:37] <j41> !pastebin | SagelessFox
[12:38] <SagelessFox> OK..
[12:40] <SagelessFox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23727349/ OK.. my question again. Encountered problem during the update process. Error msg as pasted
[12:40] <SagelessFox> and there are translations
[12:41] <cfhowlett> SagelessFox, do sudo apt update | LC_All=C | pastebinit
[12:42] <SagelessFox> what does this do?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> shows your software library update
[12:43] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: isn't it LC_ALL=C sudo apt update ?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> SagelessFox, then do sudo apt full-upgrade | LC_All=C | pastebinit
[12:43] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, I've only seen it with the LC command at the end but I suppose it could go the other way
[12:43] <SagelessFox> are you sure I need full-upgrade?
[12:43] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: aha, i've never seen it in a pipe
[12:44] <j41> SagelessFox: Yes
[12:45] <SagelessFox> OK..ty, will try
[12:45] <j41> SagelessFox: It removes packages that aren't needed
[12:45] <j41> SagelessFox: Along with installing and upgrading packages
[12:47] <cfoch> hi
[12:47] <cfoch> why does  "echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH" doesnt print something?
[12:48] <Ben64> cfoch: because it isn't set
[12:52] <cfoch> Ben64: if I set the library path to $HOME/opt/lib will /usr/lib be ignored? :)
[12:53] <backbox> hi
[12:53] <Ben64> cfoch: not sure what you're doing, but it seems to be wrong
[12:55] <akik> cfoch: /usr/lib won't be ignored
[12:56] <simon_g> hi
[12:57] <j41> hi simon_g
[12:58] <SagelessFox> cfhowlett
[12:58] <SagelessFox> LC_All=C doesnt work for apt. It outputs nothing. I dont have pastebinit.
[12:59] <SagelessFox> Running full-upgrade, I get a common out put: nothing to upgrade
[12:59] <SagelessFox> output*
[12:59] <cfhowlett> so what's left to do?
[13:00] <SagelessFox> huh?
[13:01] <j41> SagelessFox: Did you run sudo apt update
[13:01] <SagelessFox> I was running that in root
[13:01] <j41> SagelessFox: Did you run  apt update  then?
[13:01] <SagelessFox> and update shows me permission problem
[13:01] <SagelessFox> yes
[13:01] <j41> SagelessFox: The same error as before?
[13:01] <SagelessFox> yes
[13:02] <cfhowlett> sudo apt update SagelessFox
[13:03] <j41> cfhowlett: They just said they ran it and got the same error
[13:03] <SagelessFox> the same problem
[13:03] <SagelessFox> ye I run it again and all the same
[13:04] <SagelessFox> $sudo apt update
[13:04] <xdevnull> Hey people i can ask for commands help or it's only ubuntu issue releated?
[13:04] <SagelessFox> #apt update
[13:04] <SagelessFox> the same error
[13:04] <j41> SagelessFox: Try do-release-upgrade
[13:04] <SagelessFox> eh
[13:04] <cfhowlett> NO
[13:04] <j41> no?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> j41, be helpful or quiet.  no joking around
[13:04] <j41> cfhowlett: I'm not joking
[13:05] <EriC^^> xdevnull: go for it
[13:05] <mmalakchi> Hi! I executed some commands and I want revert these changes back. I can write those commands to someone who can help privately so not clutter the main chat
[13:05] <cfhowlett> SagelessFox, sudo apt full-upgrade | LC_ALL =C | pastebinit
[13:05] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: put them in a pastebin
[13:06] <cfhowlett> SagelessFox, sudo apt full-upgrade | LC_ALL=C | pastebinit
[13:06] <xdevnull>  I've root dir called "parent" with sub directory. I've several file extension with this dirs. Is it possible to copy all the dirs with all files for specific file extension.
[13:06] <xdevnull> Like keep the same dir strucute but only copy .txt files? and ignore other extensions?
[13:06] <SagelessFox> OK..I try again
[13:07] <ducasse> !pm | mmalakchi
[13:09] <SagelessFox> cfhowlett
[13:09] <SagelessFox>  I reviewed the error again. I am not sure if the source is working
[13:09] <SagelessFox> http://91.189.88.152/
[13:10] <SagelessFox> and so do this one
[13:10] <SagelessFox> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/restricted/dep11/Components-amd64.yml
[13:10] <simon_g> SagelessFox, link doesn't work
[13:11] <simon_g> neither does with the .xml or .html extension
[13:11] <SagelessFox> so there are something wrong with the apt source?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> SagelessFox, that is not the paste from your output
[13:12] <akik> cfhowlett: usually you would run "LC_ALL=C command" to change the locale for that command
[13:13] <SagelessFox> ah I see
[13:13] <SagelessFox> the error change
[13:13] <SagelessFox> the error chanes
[13:13] <SagelessFox> changes*
[13:14] <cfhowlett> akik, or put it through a pipe
[13:14] <EriC^^> does it work with a pipe? i'm kind of curious
[13:14] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, seems to
[13:14] <EriC^^> isn't it supposed that the program checks the locale and gives the msg in whatever language?
[13:15] <EriC^^> in a pipe wouldn't the program run already and then it's passing stdout to another shell with the env variable there? or like the shell runs that first and .. it's odd
[13:16] <cfhowlett> http://askubuntu.com/questions/264283/switch-command-output-language-from-native-language-to-english EriC^^ akik
[13:16] <mmalakchi> EriC^^:, ubottu: http://pastebin.com/PyQwCsE0. The thing I don't understand how to revert things from step: sudo -i to logout
[13:16] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: it doesn't mention anything about a pipe though
[13:17] <EriC^^> unless i missed it
[13:18] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: no worries
[13:19] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: grep -A4 "install sur5r-keyring" /var/log/apt/history.log
[13:19] <EriC^^> (let
[13:19] <EriC^^> (let's see what else it installed)
[13:23] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: this is what get back http://pastebin.com/L1TD1qge
[13:23] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok, type sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[13:23] <ekarlso> anyone know of alternatives to dnsmasq for caching that supports configurable minimum ttl, servers and that can do statistics ?
[13:24] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: already done
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:26] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: try "ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*sur5r* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:29] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/btuf
[13:29] <pcdummy> ekarlso: i have success with unbound, hmm it doesn't do stats i think.
[13:31] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: can you open the pastebin links?
[13:34] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: yup ok 1 sec
[13:36] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type "sudo ppa-purge -s debian.sur5r.net -o i3_dists_yakkety -p universe
[13:36] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: nevermind the " at the start
[13:51] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/5KWgWGEf
[13:52] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: there's a ppa that is missing
[13:53] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: grep -H ^ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:57] <mmalakchi> Eric^^: http://termbin.com/4eb4
[13:58] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: sudo sed -i 's/deb/#deb/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/midori-ubuntu-ppa-yakkety.list
[14:01] <ubuntu-mate> My unbuntu 16.10 upresistent usb always hang suddenly. How to solve this problem ?
[14:02] <ubuntu-mate> My unbuntu 16.10 presistent usb always hang suddenly. How to solve this problem ?
[14:02] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: check /var/log/kern.log for anything related
[14:03] <mmalakchi> Eric^^: the command executed no errors and no responds
[14:03] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: great, try sudo apt-get update
[14:04] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/1hreUmnX
[14:05] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok, try the previous ppa-purge command
[14:06] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: actually hold that thought
[14:07] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type echo "deb http://debian.sur5r.net/i3/ yakkety universe" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sur5r.list
[14:08] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: and then type sudo sed -i '/sur5r/d' /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:09] <EriC^^> ppa-purge doesn't know to look for it in sources.list, it expects it to be in sources.list.d
[14:09] <hackal> Hi, what is the naming convention of variables in bash scripts? camel case or snake case. Variable I need to name is "mysql user"
[14:09] <ubuntu-mate> Could not open the file /media/ubuntu-mate/caspe…rw/upper/var/log/kern.log.
[14:10] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: no idea
[14:11] <ubuntu-mate> Anyway thanks !
[14:11] <EriC^^> :)
[14:12] <akik> hackal: use ${MYSQL_USER} it's up to you in any case
[14:13] <hackal> akik: what is the difference between $MYSQL_USER and ${MYSQL_USER} ?
[14:14] <akik> hackal: i find ${MYSQL_USER} be more readable. it also shows where the variable name ends
[14:14] <Arab_Aspie> #My_Channel guys join my channel if you want! :D
[14:14] <hackal> akik: alright, thank you!
[14:16] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: after last command no errors and no messages
[14:16] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: try the ppa-purge command now
[14:17] <Mis-anthrope> I am using ubuntu 16.04 server (x86) with vbox. I have installed openbox as WM. After installing VBoxGuestAdditions, my server crashes the minute I run startx. There are a lot of crash logs and I dunno which log to look up to see what the problem actually is.. I looked up Xorg log and it only has information about starting up X and not why it crashed..  I am using vbox 5.1.2 ...Any suggestions?
[14:17] <backbox> guys help me to put blackbox on full screen using virtualbox
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !blackbox | backbox
[14:17] <backbox> backbox
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !backbox | backbox
[14:19] <backbox> help me people please
[14:20] <cfhowlett> backbox, your OS is not supported here.  go ask #backbox or #vbox.
[14:21] <backbox> cfhowlett i have to ask you cause you are the one saying it
[14:21] <cfhowlett> backbox, you asked about backbox.  backbox is not ubuntu and is not supported here.
[14:22] <backbox> ooooh okay thanks. so which one is supported here?
[14:24] <vyacheslav> hi
[14:25] <vyacheslav> AYE
[14:25] <Mis-anthrope> anyone :/
[14:25] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu questions vyacheslav
[14:25] <vyacheslav> ЗИГ ХАЙЛЬ
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !ru | vyacheslav
[14:25] <Mis-anthrope> I need help people..
[14:26] <Mis-anthrope> where can I see the crash logs for startx?????
[14:26] <Mis-anthrope> I mean the crash logs for X server that crashes everytime I start vbox guest additions
[14:27] <designbybeck> Was trying to switch back to VirtualBox, but the .VDI says I'm not the owner, Can I just chown it? http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=110715
[14:27] <Mis-anthrope> am I muted or something?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> !patience | Mis-anthrope
[14:28] <designbybeck> Was using QEMU, but I wanted to try to use the latest VirtualBox
[14:28] <Mis-anthrope> oh ok
[14:29] <akik> Mis-anthrope: look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:30] <akik> Mis-anthrope: or was that the one you looked into already?
[14:30] <Mis-anthrope> akik: I did look into it.. all it has is the info about initialization of X.. nothing about the crash..
[14:30] <Mis-anthrope> wait.. lemme pastebin it ..
[14:31] <akik> Mis-anthrope: you can use "startx -- -verbose 6 -logverbose 6"
[14:31] <Unhammer> Hi, Is full disk encryption missing from the installer these days?
[14:31] <Unhammer> or is it not showing because I'm dual-booting …?
[14:33] <Unhammer> I'm trying to install along Win10, I ran the installer far enough to resize the win10 partition, but I'm a bit lost as to how to manually do FDE on the linux-side of things
[14:35] <backbox> ubuntu suck guys
[14:35] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[14:36] <yellabs-r2> how would i view a png inline on terminal ( bash )
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Unhammer, FDE?
[14:36] <yellabs-r2> so that the script at start shows an icon on the terminal
[14:36] <yellabs-r2> when running script
[14:37] <yellabs-r2> all tips are welcome
[14:37] <yellabs-r2> ;)
[14:37] <akik> yellabs-r2: you could use netpbm programs to convert the picture
[14:37] <CarlFK> yellabs-r2: inline?
[14:38] <yellabs-r2> within a running terminal script
[14:39] <Unhammer> BluesKaj,  Full Disk Encryption
[14:40] <Unhammer> hm, found https://askubuntu.com/questions/293028/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-encrypted-with-luks-with-dual-boot/293029#293029 but the answer's a bit old …
[14:41] <BluesKaj> Unhammer, ok, dunno much about that, i leave that to the on the job users
[14:42] <CarlFK> yellabs-r2: "display" will do that, but I'm still not sure if that is what you want
[14:43] <yellabs-r2> display pops up a new window , guess i will have to find a switch to get it inside the termninal
[14:44] <Mis-anthrope> akik: this is what my Xorg.0.log looks like http://pastebin.com/kxaE29Z7
[14:44] <jgcampbell300> Good morning all
[14:45] <akik> Mis-anthrope: if you're using lightdm, you can add those -verbose and -logverbose into /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[14:45] <akik> Mis-anthrope: http://askubuntu.com/a/470716
[14:52] <Mis-anthrope> akik: I am not using any display manager..
[14:53] <cfoch> Hello
[14:53] <cfoch> I have written a bash script to build Gstreamer from git repo.
[14:53] <Mis-anthrope> I am new to running ubuntu.. and I am still learning its basics.. right now, I just do startx to start Xorg
[14:53] <cfoch> Can someone try my script or improve it please? -> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/518563/14833687/
[14:55] <cfoch> I have this error when building "gst-plugins-good" and it's getting frustrating
[14:55] <cfoch> configure.ac:54: error: required file './ltmain.sh' not found
[14:55] <cfoch> Please, tell me if you have the same error, give an eye to my script, please
[14:57] <cfoch> BTW, change in the code DO_GNOME=false
[14:57] <cfoch> DO_GNOME_CLONING=false, to true (both).
[14:57] <vicky> I'm installing Kali
[14:57] <vicky> And the final installation is stuck at 59%.
[14:57] <vicky> What to do?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> vicky, ask in #kali
[14:58] <vicky> okay
[14:58] <vicky> Thanks
[14:59] <cfoch> Did someone see my message?  :)
[14:59] <vicky> I'm unable to join the channel. Its for invite only
[14:59] <BluesKaj> vicky, or #kali-linux
[15:00] <Firefly67> How is partitioning an SSD different from partitioning a HDD? I want to dual install Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16
[15:00] <Firefly67> and the SSD is only 256 GB
[15:00] <elias_a> Firefly67: AFAIK it is not different.
[15:01] <geirha> cfoch: A few notes: 1. Most of the variable names should be lowercased. 2. Make sure you test if cd succeeds before carrying on. 3. Quote expansions to avoid wordsplitting and pathname expansion. 4. Use [[ and (( rather than [. 5. Use printf rather than echo. 6. Don't put -i in the shebang
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Firefly67, nothing different, ceate your partitions using the same method as any other drive
[15:01] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: running X like that is not a supported way in Ubuntu. And I saw you post in ubuntu-server, so you're not actually running ubuntu-desktop
[15:02] <geirha> cfoch: the actual error is probably because of 2
[15:02] <Mis-anthrope> hateball: someone there adviced me to post my doubt here.. and I just type in startx in the ubuntu server to start Xorg..
[15:02] <Mis-anthrope> hateball: I have mentioned that I am using ubuntu server in my problem above.. :)
[15:05] <Ragecraze> guys i have internet issues on ubuntu, please help me!!
[15:06] <Mis-anthrope> akik: I am installing lighdm now to get verbose on startx.. will get back to you if I am able to get my log going
[15:07] <akik> Mis-anthrope: if you just startx from the shell, you don't need to add lightdm, sorry!
[15:08] <Ragecraze> why does my laptop stop having internet after i restart ubuntu?? please help!!
[15:08] <Mis-anthrope> akik: but the logverbose isnt working with startx
[15:09] <akik> Mis-anthrope: "startx -- -verbose 6 -logverbose 6" ?
[15:09] <Mis-anthrope> what does the 6 mean.. if you dont mind me asking :)
[15:10] <akik> Mis-anthrope: it's the verbosity level
[15:11] <Mis-anthrope> okzz.. my machine crashed.. will post log in a minute
[15:11] <akik> Mis-anthrope: do you mean that the host crashes or the vbox vm?
[15:12] <Mis-anthrope> akik: vbox vm..
[15:12] <Mis-anthrope> akik: my host is fine..
[15:16] <ernesto_> Anyone is facing problems with wi-fi on ubuntu 14.04?
[15:16] <xangua> Morning everyone, one more time getting suspend to with, restarted, suspend no longer works... This happens with lubuntu16.04, Xubuntu, Ubuntu mate (live session) here is my suspend log: paste. ubuntu.com/23727882
[15:17] <xangua> Paste.ubuntu.com/23727882
[15:17] <wam> Hi, I'm migrating a xenial from a md-raid on a server to a ssd built into the server. I copied all over, partitioned and chroot+update-grub'd. All went well, however, the server still boots from /dev/md0 instead of the new SSD. Do I have to destroy md0 (or its boot installation) or can I somehow decide which device has precedence?
[15:17] <ernesto_> In my case after suspend wi-fi disappeard
[15:18] <xangua> ernesto_: better than no suspend
[15:18] <xangua> http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade ernesto_
[15:19] <ernesto_> thanks xangua
[15:20] <wam> jxS3PGweDE!
[15:21] <dorothy> How is coding/programming akin to linguistics?
[15:24] <Unhammer> um what is wrong when "lvcreate" says "failed: Device or resource busy"
[15:24] <Unhammer> after creating swap
[15:24] <Unhammer> before creating root
[15:26] <Mis-anthrope> Unhammer: how have you created swap on the LV? is that during installation i.e. in the guided partitioning phase?
[15:36] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Sorry I was away. The purge command returned Warning. Full command respond, here: http://pastebin.com/8ryukuxS
[15:37] <jayjo> can I alter to location of my log files to an external drive?
[15:37] <jayjo> It is not external, just not the drive the os is installed on?
[15:37] <jayjo> my logs have been bloating incredibly quickly after the last upgrade to 16.04. I currently have 90GB of logs in /var/log
[15:38] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sur5r.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:39] <jayjo> eg sysog.1 is now 35GB. That seems excessive
[15:39] <EriC^^> jayjo: must have some error that keeps repeating
[15:39] <EriC^^> jayjo: check what the error is
[15:40] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/fzh9
[15:41] <BluesKaj> jayjo, wow , my /var/log is 6.2mb
[15:42] <marty74> Hi. I've got a question concerning the power button handling when the screen is locked. Which program handles the power button in this case? I've configured the power button to suspend the system when pressed in the system settings. But this only works when I'm logged in and the screen is not locked.
[15:42] <marty74> So I always have to unlock the screen to make the power button work. As a workaround I've modified powerbtn.sh to always suspend the system, but this is a very bad hack
[15:42] <jayjo> can i remove syslog or should i truncate it after a certain point for something? It looks like it has a graphics card error that is filling it multiple times per second
[15:43] <Firefly67> I am backing up windows to an external HDD as preparation for dual boot; is it usual for this process to take hours?
[15:44] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type sudo -i 's@yakkety/universe@yakkety universe@' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sur5r.list
[15:44] <xangua> Firefly67: USB 2?
[15:45] <noncom|2> hi, I have a very strange thing happening on my remote RDP Ubuntu
[15:45] <Firefly67> xangua, from my laptop to an external hard drive
[15:46] <noncom|2> I have installed emacs 25.1.1 there, and it works fine, and I created a desktop icon for it (LXDE desktop over RDP) and it worked ok, but after some time the icon/link becomes invalid
[15:46] <noncom|2> it can no longer find Emacs there
[15:46] <noncom|2> however, at that time, if I don't exit Emacs, it even keeps running
[15:47] <noncom|2> I installed via official instructions with "sudo checkinstall" from the downloaded archive
[15:47] <noncom|2> what is going on?
[15:48] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/2Wq6BsPM
[15:49] <xangua> Morning everyone, one more time getting suspend to with, restarted, suspend no longer works... This happens with lubuntu16.04, Xubuntu, Ubuntu mate (live session) here is my suspend log: paste.ubuntu.com/23727882
[15:52] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type sudo sed -i 's@yakkety/universe@yakkety universe@' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sur5r.list
[15:52] <EriC^^> sorry had a typo
[15:52] <mmalakchi> NP
[15:53] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: after command execution no errors, no other messages
[15:54] <sanjay__> I see huge black borders around my menus, windows and other wizards. How do I fix this?
[15:54] <Firefly67> I am following this guide: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-alongside.html , but just the initial step of creating windows backup promises to take hours. I started it an hour back and it is only 11% done. Is this usual?
[15:54] <para000> hi guys
[15:55] <Snowboarder> Hello
[15:56] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok try the ppa-purge command again
[15:56] <sanjay__> mmalakchi:  can u help me?
[15:58] <sanjay__> anyone please respond immediately
[15:59] <ducasse> sanjay__: 'immediately'? this isn't paid support, we're all volunteers.
[15:59] <para000> very new to ubuntu, I just rented a VPS with ubuntu 16.04 and got 9 additional external IPs, and want to transform it to a VPN with OpenVPN. The first problem is that I need to add the 9 extra IPs to my server. And i think i need to configure my server to use static IPs.
[15:59] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: command response: http://pastebin.com/LumRu8d0
[15:59] <sanjay__> ducasse:  ok cool, but what to do/
[16:00] <BluesKaj>  sanjay__ just ask you question
[16:00] <BluesKaj> your
[16:00] <uplink|dmd> Hi Guys
[16:00] <sanjay__> BluesKaj: I see huge black borders around my menus, windows and other wizards. How do I fix this?
[16:01] <sanjay__> BluesKaj:  Here is something related to the above issue : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1292830/comments/0
[16:01] <sanjay__> ubottu:  yeah, I tried it but doesn't work:(
[16:02] <sanjay__> BluesKaj:  Whats the reason behind this?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> sanjay__, system settings
[16:03] <para000> So can anyone guide me on how to set static IP?
[16:03] <wou> hm
[16:04] <wou> oh
[16:04] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: looks good i guess
[16:04] <EriC^^> !info i3
[16:05] <bt_2987> quick question: how would I move all files except those with a file name ending with certain characters? I have a folder full of .mp4 files and each file ends with its resolution 1080p or 720p, which I would like to sort into folders corresponding to that size. I have tried grep but mv takes two arguments...
[16:05] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: mm it's supposed to be 4.12-2
[16:05] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: try apt-cache policy i3
[16:08] <Mis-anthrope> akik: ok so I think I have pin pointed the problem.. when I startx, everything runs fine.. but when I start with xterm, thats when the system crashes..
[16:09] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: I don't know what "mm" means, result of command execution, here: http://pastebin.com/SLAgPsM3
[16:09] <Mis-anthrope> What I cant figure out is why? Why is it that my ubuntu server crashes only when I run xterm and not otherwise
[16:10] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: it's an expression
[16:11] <anom> The dell xps13 has a displayport 1.2, will I be able to daisy chain with it?
[16:11] <anom> not sure if ubuntu has that functionality yet
[16:11] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: well, the package seems to still be the i3 one, i guess ppa-purge didn't remove everything
[16:12] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: for me it looks the same, even thought I understand much less then you
[16:12] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: do grep -H ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[16:12] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: it is the same, the i3 one is 4.13-1, it's supposed to revert it back to 4.12 the repo version
[16:14] <EriC^^> it's pretty odd, it installed sur5r from the ppa, hehe
[16:14] <akik> Mis-anthrope: does it happen with any x11 app? xeyes, rxvt, etc.
[16:15] <Chaser> bt_2987: may be something like (with out the quotes) "mkdir -p ~/1080p; find <path to your .mp4 files> -name '*1080p' -exec mv -t ~/1080p {} +"   You can also ask in #bash if thats your shell.
[16:15] <akik> Mis-anthrope: you could get better help from #vbox
[16:16] <xangua> Morning everyone, one more time getting suspend to with, restarted, suspend no longer works... This happens with lubuntu16.04, Xubuntu, Ubuntu mate (live session) here is my suspend log: paste.ubuntu.com/23727882
[16:16] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: result here: http://pastebin.com/SLnfsvzP
[16:19] <bangolio> hi, I'm trying to install kubuntu and the installer keeps crashing at the same point, looked it up, looks like a known bug with not much information, I'm pretty sure I am missing something, it can't be that I just can't install, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1650767
[16:19] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: run quickly "ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*sur5r*"
[16:20] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: i made a command that gets the list of installed packages found in the ppa, we can try to manually revert everything
[16:21] <ducasse> bangolio: 17.04 is under development, try #ubuntu+1 if that is the version you are trying to install
[16:21] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/Y0jp2dYB
[16:21] <bangolio> I'm trying to install 16.10
[16:22] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: for i in $(dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" {print $2}'); do grep "Package: $i" /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.sur5r.net_i3_dists_yakkety_universe_binary-i386_Packages; done
[16:22] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type the whole line as a command
[16:23] <bangolio> I find it strange that the distro is completely uninstallable, I'm sure I am missing something
[16:23] <bangolio> what could it be?
[16:23] <uminded_> I installed DraftSight for DXF editing and it messed up my mimetypes. They were image/vnd.dxf and are now application/vnd.VAR_VENDOR_NAME.VAR_PRODUCT_NAME-dxf. This means a different program will not open the file. My /etc/mime.types only list the correct mimetype
[16:23] <bangolio> installing on hardware I've installed on before, same USB stick, same ISO
[16:24] <sruli> how can i merge/sync text file where each line has a timestamp?
[16:26] <EriC^^> sruli: can you explain more exactly?
[16:27] <EriC^^> an example would be great
[16:27] <bangolio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1647363
[16:28] <sruli> EriC^^: i use pidgin as my chat application, when i am away from the office i mount the pidgin dir on my local machine with sshfs, sometimes the connections break and pidgin continues working but writes the logs locally, i want to merge/sync the logs back with my main pidgin dir
[16:29] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/KXtHyaWc
[16:30] <ioria> sruli,  use sort
[16:32] <sruli> ioria: didnt think of that, thanks
[16:32] <EriC^^> sruli: wow i think you'd need some serious awk to do that
[16:33] <ioria> sruli,  np, try   sort file1 file2 > outputfile
[16:33] <EriC^^> sruli: so you need to check the first column's date and compare it to see where in the main log it is and add it
[16:33] <sruli> EriC^^: your opinion on ioria's suggestion of sort?
[16:33] <EriC^^> ioria: i dont think that'd do it
[16:34] <bangolio> can anyone please help me?
[16:34] <ioria> EriC^^, timestamps, right ? why not ?
[16:34] <EriC^^> sruli: i think you'd need to parse the first column and convert it to the epoch number, and then get the first column of the main file and do the same, and find where logepoch > mainlogepoch
[16:34] <EriC^^> ioria: sort can sort stuff based on the timestamp?
[16:34] <ioria> EriC^^, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/239055/how-to-merge-multiple-files-based-on-a-timestamp
[16:35] <EriC^^> ioria: i think that depends on the timestamp
[16:35] <ioria> oh
[16:35] <EriC^^> something like "Dec 21 bla bla" sort is going to fall flat
[16:36] <EriC^^> sruli: what does the timestamp field look like?
[16:36] <ioria> sruli,  we need an extract ...
[16:37] <ioria> *excerpt
[16:37] <sruli> EriC^^: just checked the log files, its actually split there is a few per day but trying to find if any go over to the next day... the file starts with date and time, but each line has only time (not date) stamp "(13:50:58)"
[16:37] <ioria> sruli,  h24 or am/pm ?
[16:38] <ioria> sruli,  h24 i guess
[16:38] <ioria> sruli,  if so, sort should work
[16:38] <EriC^^> it won't really help, he still needs to parse the date at the top :/
[16:38] <xangua> Morning everyone, one more time getting suspend to work, restarted, suspend no longer works... This happens with lubuntu16.04, Xubuntu, Ubuntu mate (live session) here is my suspend log: paste.ubuntu.com/23727882
[16:39] <ioria> sruli , please excerpt, awk or sed can remove that
[16:39] <EriC^^> sruli: what's the main file look like? is it actually a main file? or are they just segmented after it?
[16:39] <sruli> need to find any chats around midnight to verify this, if they go over i guess the only thing i can do is rename the remote files and copy it into main dir
[16:39] <sruli> EriC^^:  ioria https://paste.fedoraproject.org/518615/48337515/
[16:40] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: It seems that we romeved packages?
[16:40] <ioria> sruli , the first number is from cat -n or in the file
[16:40] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: the command returned nothing?
[16:41] <mmalakchi> I send to you link it is above
[16:41] <sruli> ioria: i guess from the paste site.. original file lines aren't numbered
[16:41] <ioria> sruli ,excerpt of the log file :þ
[16:42] <sruli> EriC^^:  ioria: here is log file  https://paste.fedoraproject.org/518615/48337515/
[16:42] <ioria> sruli , remove the first number, and sort
[16:42] <EriC^^> ioria: it wont help
[16:43] <ioria> mmm
[16:43] <EriC^^> sort isn't going to help - no way
[16:43] <cansurfer2> Anyone know if there's a semi-official Budgie-Ubuntu IRC channel? No luck googling for it
[16:43] <EriC^^> if he does sort * on them he'll end up with this
[16:43] <carbine> Hello. I am having a very (what I assume to be) simple issue. I have installed software at /opt/vectr and I am trying to add a custom icon to Unity (located at /opt/vectr/vectr.png). I have created a vectr.desktop file with Icon pointing to that file, but it is not working.
[16:44] <ducasse> sruli: why don't you just x forward pidgin over ssh?
[16:44] <EriC^^> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23728367/
[16:44] <EriC^^> that will be the outcome :D
[16:44] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Could you please reply on my Qasker question, the command returned --> http://pastebin.com/KXtHyaWc
[16:45] <cansurfer2> !budgie
[16:45] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Could you please reply on my question, the command returned --> http://pastebin.com/KXtHyaWc
[16:45] <mmalakchi> Sorry
[16:45] <EriC^^> he will have a file neatly organized of every thing he said on a similar time, good for a survey to study his psyche habits, mood vs time of day
[16:46] <sruli> ducasse: tried that some time ago, problem was if application was running on host i couldent get it to work
[16:47] <ducasse> sruli: in that case just terminate it remotely
[16:47] <ducasse> sruli: send it SIGHUP or SIGTERM
[16:47] <sruli> EriC^^: as i wrote before the files are dated, so with some scripting i can merge and sort files of same date.
[16:47] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok, those are all the packages installed from the ppa
[16:48] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: let's try to remove those, hopefully the whole de doesn't break
[16:48] <sruli> ducasse: not a solution, as i need to be able to see new messages when i get back.. if i terminate it i will never get to read them many of which might be important
[16:48] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: try remove the ppa, sudo sed -i 's/deb/#deb/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sur5r.list
[16:49] <ducasse> sruli: then use a proper client like weechat or irssi that you can run in tmux or screen :)
[16:50] <EriC^^> sruli: yeah it can be done, you need to parse the first line in every log, grab the date, convert it to epoch, then start at the end of the main file and look for same line with date, grab it, and if it's before the date then add contents of file, if not keep going backwards
[16:50] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: The command return nothing
[16:51] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok, type sudo apt-get update
[16:51] <ducasse> mmalakchi: what is the actual problem with that ppa? i use it myself, maybe i can help.
[16:51] <EriC^^> sruli: ioria if you guys want to have a crack at making it i dont mind
[16:51] <ioria> EriC^^,  sruli will be happy :þ
[16:52] <Firefly67> does anyone know if I shouldn't do anything on my laptop (like create ubuntu USB drive) while windows is backing up? Or can I keep using the laptop while the backup proceeds in the background?
[16:52] <sruli> ducasse: was in middle of writing a question asking what i can use instead... how does the logging work with weechat and does it support most protocols (i use irc, icq, jabber(google) & yahoo)
[16:52] <EriC^^> ioria: :D
[16:53] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: command rerurned: http://pastebin.com/i9Cax4pv
[16:53] <sruli> EriC^^: ioria: i will have a crack at it, always happy to achieve weird stuff
[16:53] <ioria> sruli , me too
[16:54] <ducasse> sruli: logging - plain text files. protocols - irc. though you could connect it to bitlbee for certain im networks.
[16:54] <mmalakchi> ducasse: I think I switched to some custome repository and installed i3 package. And I think I need to remove all packages from that repository and then switch back to standard repository
[16:55] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type "wget -O packages http://termbin.com/k4vs"
[16:55] <ducasse> mmalakchi: yes, you are using a non-ubuntu repo for i3. is that a problem in itself?
[16:55] <mmalakchi> ducasse: I installed i3wm from here: http://www.devpy.me/your-guide-to-a-practical-linux-desktop-with-i3wm/
[16:55] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type "cat packages" to make sure the packages are there
[16:56] <xangua> Morning everyone, one more time getting suspend to work, restarted, suspend no longer works... This happens with lubuntu16.04, Xubuntu, Ubuntu mate (live session) here is my suspend log: paste.ubuntu.com/23727882
[16:56] <sruli> i wrote a script which hooks on to apt update "APT::Update::Pre-Invoke" it works fine when running apt update from terminal but when running from gui update manager it doesn’t succeed (couldnt lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock) the script tries to install a package but why when run from gui does it fail?
[16:57] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: on this command: mmalakchi: type "wget -O packages http://termbin.com/k4vs"
[16:57] <mmalakchi> Permission denied
[16:58] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: type cd  /tmp
[16:58] <EriC^^> then try again
[16:59] <EriC^^> sruli: find out how to convert that line to epoch
[16:59] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: return: http://pastebin.com/bjzBS4Ai
[17:00] <EriC^^> sruli: ioria i have this til now http://paste.ubuntu.com/23728434/
[17:00] <EriC^^> next is to convert it to epoch so we can compare it with the one from main log
[17:00] <ioria> EriC^^,  nice
[17:01] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok, try "cat packages"
[17:01] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: it returned the list of packages
[17:02] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok, type "xargs -a packages sudo apt-get purge"
[17:03] <EriC^^> don't hit "y" yet though
[17:03] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: It removed the packages
[17:04] <sruli> EriC^^: converting to epoch should be pretty easy, but why is it needed?
[17:04] <EriC^^> sruli: i figured it's easy to compare the stuff that way
[17:04] <EriC^^> can you feed date that format and it compares them?
[17:05] <sruli> EriC^^: i'm gonna try a few things.. 10-15 minutes...
[17:05] <EriC^^> seems pretty standard Mon 02 Jan 2017 15:45:34
[17:07] <EriC^^> sruli: ioria seems to be date -d "Mon 02 Jan 2017 15:45:34" +%s
[17:07] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok, great
[17:08] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: try "apt-cache policy i3"
[17:08] <chaminda> HI
[17:08] <chaminda> TEST
[17:09] <ioria> EriC^^, remember i did it once, it really depends on the log format tho ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23728552/
[17:10] <ioria> EriC^^, i used it to select a certain date
[17:11] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Candidate: 4.12-2
[17:11] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: great, that's the one
[17:11] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: try sudo apt-get install i3
[17:12] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: and sudo apt-get install i3lock i3status
[17:12] <EriC^^> !info suckless-tools yakkety
[17:13] <EriC^^> !info sur5r-keyring yakkety
[17:13] <EriC^^> !info  libanyevent-i3-perl yakkety
[17:13] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: final command, sudo apt-get install i3 i3status i3lock suckless-tools libanyevent-i3-perl
[17:14] <ducasse> EriC^^: 'i3' is a metapackage - all the tools needed.
[17:14] <EriC^^> ducasse: it mentions it depends on i3-wm only and i3-wm doesn't mention those :/
[17:14] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: I executed both commands, seems 1-st installed i3 and 2-nd done nothing.
[17:14] <EriC^^> maybe i missed a few lines or something though
[17:15] <sruli> EriC^^: ioria: wont work, just found a few of the log files do go over to the next day
[17:15] <ioria> sruli, what not works ?
[17:16] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: dpkg -l | grep suckless
[17:16] <EriC^^> does it show up?
[17:16] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: final command returned: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[17:16] <EriC^^> ducasse: i3 has them as "Recommends" do you think it pulled them in?
[17:16] <ducasse> EriC^^: it recommends i3lock, suckless-tools, dunst and i3status - all that is needed.
[17:16] <ducasse> EriC^^: it should by default
[17:17] <EriC^^> oh, recommends always get pulled in? ah
[17:17] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok, awesome
[17:17] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: ii  suckless-tools
[17:17] <ducasse> EriC^^: i've configured apt not to do that, but the default is to install recommends
[17:17] <EriC^^> ducasse: i see
[17:18] <sruli> ioria: the idea of merging.. as all the logs are kept in separate files which are dated.. but some do continue logging into the next day.. so log for 01-jan-2017 might also have data from 02-jan-2017, so if i merge based on time only i will end up with a mix up
[17:18] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: ok all is good i guess
[17:19] <ioria> sruli, so ,first, order the files themself by date (ls -t)
[17:19] <mmalakchi> Thank you very much!
[17:19] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Thank you very much!
[17:19] <EriC^^> sruli: you mean based on the file attributes date?
[17:19] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: no problem! :)
[17:20] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Last few questions. Right now I connected to default repository?
[17:20] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Last few questions. Right now I connected to default repository? and how to chack this?
[17:21] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Last few questions. Right now I connected to default repository? and how to check this?
[17:21] <EriC^^> sruli: ioria we need to get the line number that has a date in it in the mainlog and parse that date, then if it isn't less we have to look for the next one
[17:21] <ioria> EriC^^, also different days...
[17:21] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: yes the i3 stuff should be from the main repository
[17:22] <EriC^^> ioria: the days doesn't matter we only care about the first line
[17:22] <sruli> EriC^^: ioria:here is the filename and some content https://paste.fedoraproject.org/518670/77732148/
[17:22] <EriC^^> the different day is going to be the next one anyways, right sruli ?
[17:23] <mmalakchi> EriC^^: Great! could you please tell how to check that I'm now connected to default repository?
[17:23] <sruli> EriC^^: what i am saying is that i found some log files do continue logging the next day in previous days file
[17:23] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: for i3 packages?
[17:23] <ducasse> mmalakchi: 'apt update' lists all repos it connects to.
[17:24] <sruli> EriC^^: so if my log start at 01:00:00 and continues to next day 01:01:00 its gonna be a problem
[17:24] <EriC^^> sruli: why?
[17:24] <sruli> EriC^^: did you see my last paste?
[17:24] <EriC^^> we're going to shove it in the right order in the main log
[17:24] <EriC^^> yes
[17:25] <mmalakchi> Thank EriC^^:, ducasse !!!
[17:25] <sruli> 23:56:44 is from 2015-11-15. 00:00:28 is from next day, withut any date with the timestamp how will we know its from next day?
[17:25] <EriC^^> sruli: we won't need to, we'll take it as a whole
[17:26] <EriC^^> log has day 4 and day 5, we'll cram it in the main log between day3 and daywhatever
[17:26] <EriC^^> and in the end it should end up as day1 day2 day3 day4 etc
[17:27] <pwn> [19:24] <pwn> The time in my desktop 19:24 is different from the time from the 'date' command [19:24] <pwn> the correct time is the one in desktop [19:24] <pwn> how do i make the clocks be the same?
[17:27] <mmalakchi> Thank you EriC^^:, ducasse: !!!
[17:27] <EriC^^> sruli: it might not work though
[17:27] <ioria> sruli,  cat file | awk 'NR==1{print $5" " $6" " $7}'
[17:27] <EriC^^> mmalakchi: you're very welcome
[17:27] <xangua> Morning everyone, one more time getting suspend to work, restarted, suspend no longer works... This happens with lubuntu16.04, Xubuntu, Ubuntu mate (live session) here is my suspend log: paste.ubuntu.com/23727882
[17:28] <sruli> EriC^^: how? we have 2 files locally and 2 remote files. both have logs starting 01-01-17 at 00:00:01 1 finishes at 22:00:00 the other at 01:01:00 next day, how are we merging this? according to time will put it in the wrong place
[17:28] <nikolai> !list
[17:30] <EriC^^> sruli: oh, yeah that's a problem if they have the same date :/
[17:30] <EriC^^> sruli: we'll have to add something that if it finds the exact date there it uses the actual time to add the log
[17:30] <sruli> EriC^^: dream ends right there ;-)
[17:31] <EriC^^> not really, just more work :D
[17:32] <onla> is there a default password for root on ubuntu? Can I login as root on default ubuntu (or linux mint) system?
[17:32] <EriC^^> sruli: ioria if we split it up between the 3 of us, it won't be that bad i guess
[17:32] <sruli> EriC^^: it does not put the new date in the file... the only way is if we can somehow tell the script to check for any-time after midnight if we already have after midnight before...
[17:32] <ioria> yep
[17:32] <EriC^^> onla: no, root is disabled by default
[17:33] <onla> alrity thankns EriC^^
[17:33] <EriC^^> sruli: yeah if it finds the same date in the logfile in the main file, it resorts to checking the time stuff and puts it in the right place
[17:33] <pwn> hello?
[17:34] <pwn> make 'date' and my desktop time are different
[17:34] <pwn> how do i fix it?
[17:34] <EriC^^> pwn: settings > time & date
[17:35] <pwn> EriC^^: its showing the correct time in that menu
[17:35] <pwn> But file creating time is different..
[17:35] <pwn> like the system is using a different mechanism
[17:35] <EriC^^> what does "date" show in the terminal?
[17:36] <pwn> Mon Jan  2 12:35:58 EST 2017
[17:36] <EriC^^> is it correct?
[17:36] <pwn> In the menu you told me: Its set to grab automatically from internet, time is 7:36 pm, location israel
[17:36] <pwn> the menu has the correct time
[17:36] <pwn> date time is incorrect and not consistent with the time in the desktop menu
[17:38] <sruli> EriC^^: ioria: here is a log file for this chat which goes over to next day, http://www.pastefile.com/Mlp6qL it goes over at line 7724
[17:38] <EriC^^> pwn: try sudo hwclock --debug
[17:39] <pwn> Time read from Hardware Clock: 2011/01/02 22:39:12 Hw clock time : 2011/01/02 22:39:12 = 1294007952 seconds since 1969 Sun 02 Jan 2011 05:39:12 PM EST  -0.766876 seconds
[17:41] <EriC^^> can someone else try the sudo hwclock --debug command?
[17:41] <EriC^^> (mine's meddled with)
[17:41] <DJones> EriC^^: Will do
[17:41] <ioria> sruli,  yep, without the day tho... only 15 Nov
[17:41] <EriC^^> DJones: thank you
[17:42] <DJones> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/DwAxbMAu
[17:42] <DJones> EriC^^: That is on 16.10
[17:43] <sruli> ioria: correct so when merging wont it put from line 7724 to the end in the beginning of the merged file?
[17:43] <EriC^^> DJones: aha, thanks
[17:43] <ioria> sruli,  yep, it's a bit difficult
[17:44] <sruli> EriC^^: what is your idea to tackle it?
[17:45] <EriC^^> pwn: try sudo hwclock --set --date="2017-01-02 17:45:00"
[17:45] <EriC^^> sruli: i will write it in the pastebin as pseudo-code
[17:48] <sruli> EriC^^: hold on, found a plugin that is suppposed to add dat to timestamp.. restarting app to see if it works 1 min
[17:49] <sruli> EriC^^: ioria: result! i now have this for timestamp (2017-01-02 17:48:27)
[17:50] <ioria> sruli,  you can sort the files by dates and tail -n 100000000 *  >>output  :þ
[17:50] <sruli> ioria: how do i tail multiple files at once?
[17:51] <robotti^> hello
[17:51] <ioria> sruli, tail -n 100000000  file1 file2 file3  >> output
[17:51] <ioria> sruli,  in the correct order
[17:52] <sruli> ioria: as the date timestamps only started now, will have to wait a few days before i can try it.
[17:53] <EriC^^> ioria: it won't put them in the main file though
[17:53] <EriC^^> there might be places where mainfile has day1 day2, and log is day3, then main has day4 and day5, then another log is day6 etc :/
[17:54] <ioria> EriC^^, i'll maintain an alternative one, in any case
[17:55] <EriC^^> alright
[17:55] <EriC^^> sruli: so we'll do it another time then?
[17:55] <ioria> EriC^^,  maybe the loggin format would change with some updates
[17:56] <sruli> EriC^^: ioria: yes we'll have to wait a few days to get enough logs to be able to play with, however if we have full timestamps wont it be easier to convert to epoch > sort into 1 file > convert back?
[17:57] <ioria> brb, sy
[17:58] <EriC^^> sruli: yeah that would be way easier
[18:03] <jgcampbell300> so i have an backup.img file im trying to mount under ubuntu 16.04 .. when it mounts it is ro ... how would i make this rw ... it is a copy of a VM i was running a while back
[18:04] <sparkkk> I'm trying to have my synclient settings for my touchpad persist between suspend/resume (ubuntu 16.10); nothing seems to be working. Can anyone help?
[18:07] <cuddle> hello anyone know how to get twitch tv working on ubuntu
[18:08] <xangua> !doesntwork
[18:08] <xangua> Hi everyone, one more time getting suspend to work, restarted, suspend no longer works... This happens with lubuntu16.04, Xubuntu, Ubuntu mate (live session) here is my suspend log: paste.ubuntu.com/23727882
[18:09] <cuddle> does anyone know how to install twitch tv streaming software on ubuntu
[18:10] <MarcoP> I have a external USB that is showing less storage room than is supposed to too...I thought I knew how to fix that in windows but what about in ubuntu?
[18:11] <cuddle> does anyone know how to get OBS Studio installed on ubuntu
[18:11] <FinalX> check the partitions first to see if the partition is using the whole disk or not. keep in mind that filesystems always reserve some for their inner workings.
[18:11] <Bashing-om> MarcoP: How much less - 5% is taken from the drive space for house keeping .
[18:11] <BluesKaj> cuddle, kodi has twitch in it's list
[18:12] <cuddle> sweet
[18:12] <cuddle> gonna try kodi
[18:12] <MarcoP> Bashing-om, its a 320 gb external usb and its showing about 232gb
[18:13] <BluesKaj> !kodi | cuddle
[18:13] <cuddle> !kodi
[18:13] <BluesKaj> !info kodi
[18:14] <EriC^^> MarcoP: type sudo parted -l and pastebin the output
[18:14] <FinalX> MarcoP: do fdisk -l on the device path of the drive, or fdisk -l without arguments and look for the 320gb drive. it's probably just one partition
[18:14] <xangua> cuddle: you can also see live streams in MPV
[18:14] <FinalX> or that
[18:15] <xangua> cuddle: or at least for recent versions, not sure if the version that comes in Ubuntu can
[18:15] <BluesKaj> cuddle, kodi is basically the same software one gets with those android tv boxes on amazon etc
[18:16] <FinalX> Plex Home Theatre was built off of it as wel, Kodi is formerly known as XBMC
[18:16] <FinalX> well*
[18:16] <BluesKaj> cuddle, but dunno if it's worth the trouble for just one channel/stream
[18:18] <cuddle> blueskaj it says you can watch the streams in ubuntu but i dont think you can actually stream your own ga,e
[18:18] <cuddle> game*
[18:18] <cuddle> xangua i want to stream my game
[18:18] <MarcoP> its showing 232.9
[18:19] <xangua> cuddle: no idea then, you didn't clarify
[18:19] <BluesKaj> cuddle, yes kodi has an optonal app that you can install for streaming from your network
[18:19] <cuddle> whats it called
[18:19] <cuddle> xangua sorry
[18:20] <cuddle> livestream?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> cuddle, http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/internet/best-kodi-add-ons-2016-2017-how-get-plex-on-kodi-other-great-add-ons-3627964/
[18:21] <cuddle> ty
[18:22] <BluesKaj> cuddle, google is your friend
[18:22] <cuddle> ty
[18:24] <rkwofford> join/clojure
[18:28] <freefall> anyone able to help me with a problem of upgrading lubuntu from 16.04-16.10 im getting python error
[18:30] <Aleksandr> Привет, есть тут Рускоговорящие ?
[18:30] <Aleksandr> или тут надо английский знать ?
[18:31] <xangua> !ru | Aleksandr
[18:31] <cuddle> does anyone know live streamer
[18:31] <cuddle> livestreamer on ubuntu
[18:32] <ikonia> what's a live steamer ?
[18:32] <RageCraze> losing internet connection right after restarting my laptop after a fresh install, what do i do?
[18:32] <RageCraze> please im so tired of this been searching for hours
[18:33] <ikonia> RageCraze: are you connected to a network ?
[18:34] <RageCraze> ikonia right after i installed ubuntu everything worked fine, i restart my computer and the internet connection is lost, i cant connect and i cant do anything with internet
[18:34] <ikonia> RageCraze: so you're not currently connected to a network at all
[18:34] <RageCraze> ikonia also, in the terminal in iwconfig it says wireless extenstion not present or something like that
[18:34] <RageCraze> ikonia no not right now
[18:34] <ikonia> RageCraze: so this is a wifi connection
[18:34] <RageCraze> yes ikonia its a wifi connection
[18:35] <RageCraze> wait im talking to you through my other computer, the laptop that has ubuntu isn't connected right now ikonia
[18:35] <ikonia> RageCraze: so if you see "wireless extensions not present" that means none of the interfaces your machine can see is wifi capable, which normally means your wifi card cannot be "seen" by the OS
[18:35] <RageCraze> ikonia but how did the wifi work right after i installed the OS? is this some kind of issue that won't be fixed for me?
[18:36] <RageCraze> ikonia and btw, sometimes when i restart again the wifi comes back
[18:36] <ikonia> RageCraze: interesting
[18:36] <odigem> hi
[18:36] <ikonia> RageCraze: what model wifi card is it?
[18:36] <RageCraze> ikonia im not sure but its an HP envy 15, i dont know how to get my card number
[18:36] <ikonia> RageCraze: "lspci" and look for the wifi card
[18:36] <Dreaman> RageCraze:  network cable and update
[18:37] <ikonia> Dreaman: is he not up to date ?
[18:37] <odigem> how to hide volume change window?
[18:37] <Dreaman> yes a install my laptop
[18:37] <ikonia> Dreaman: what ?
[18:37] <Dreaman> and update
[18:38] <LiENUS> is usb-creator-gtk broken? i try to use a 16.04.1 iso to make a liveusb and it just tells me it could not write it
[18:38] <Dreaman> livecd is not up to date
[18:38] <ikonia> Dreaman: he's not using a livecd
[18:38] <Dreaman> ok
[18:38] <Dreaman> i use usb flash
[18:38] <ikonia> Dreaman: what are you talking about, he's working on his installed system
[18:39] <Dreaman> ok
[18:39] <RageCraze> ikonia ispci doesnt work
[18:39] <xangua> LiENUS: just used it with Xubuntu, did you try to format it?
[18:39] <ikonia> RageCraze: what happens
[18:39] <Dreaman> and no internet wifi
[18:39] <RageCraze> dreaman how do i update when connected via cable?
[18:39] <ikonia> RageCraze: ignore that
[18:39] <ikonia> RageCraze: what happens with lspci
[18:39] <Dreaman> apt update
[18:39] <Dreaman> apt upgrade
[18:40] <tekisui> hello
[18:40] <tekisui> for intel processor i need 86 bit ??
[18:40] <ikonia> tekisui: most modern cpus are 64bit
[18:40] <tekisui> ah
[18:40] <tekisui> it says inter x86
[18:40] <tekisui> the other amd
[18:40] <tekisui> intel*
[18:40] <ikonia> tekisui: amd just means 64bit
[18:40] <tekisui> ahh ok
[18:41] <RageCraze> http://pastebin.com/P2BGgibz ikonia
[18:41] <RageCraze> this is what i get from lspci ikonia
[18:41] <tekisui> 386 ?
[18:41] <ikonia> RageCraze: what's not working about that
[18:41] <ikonia> tekisui: what ?
[18:41] <tekisui> so is for old processors
[18:41] <RageCraze> ikonia i just restared and now my wifi works but i know it will stop when i restart
[18:41] <tekisui> i386 iso
[18:41] <RageCraze> ikonia i had used i instead of l
[18:42] <ikonia> tekisui: what are you asking
[18:42] <ikonia> RageCraze: so your card is 07:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[18:42] <Dreaman> tekisui:  32 bit is i386
[18:42] <ikonia> it's not i386
[18:42] <ikonia> RageCraze: so the first thing to do is look at what kernel module that card requires
[18:43] <Dreaman> ikonia: 486 586 686
[18:43] <Dreaman> hahahah
[18:43] <ikonia> Dreaman: what ?
[18:43] <RageCraze> ikonia how do i do that my friend im a noob
[18:43] <ikonia> Dreaman: you're not making much sense when you are talking
[18:43] <tekisui> ah
[18:43] <tekisui> merci
[18:44] <ikonia> RageCraze: if you type "lsmod | grep rt" what do you get
[18:44] <RageCraze> hold on
[18:44] <Dreaman> ikonia: old 32 bit linux  is base this
[18:44] <ikonia> Dreaman: no it's not
[18:44] <ikonia> Dreaman: i386 support was removed a long time ago
[18:45] <RageCraze> http://pastebin.com/fhpR8ViH ikonia this is for ismod
[18:45] <Dreaman> real
[18:45] <ikonia> RageCraze: thats the wrong url
[18:46] <Dreaman> talk this to my old pc 15 years old and debian
[18:46] <RageCraze> wht should i type? lsmod or ismod?
[18:46] <ikonia> Dreaman: 15 years is not i386
[18:46] <ikonia> RageCraze: lsmod | grep rt
[18:46] <ikonia> RageCraze: you need to pay attention, I gave you the exact command to type
[18:47] <RageCraze> http://pastebin.com/Q1Ki0SMM
[18:47] <RageCraze> here u go ikonia
[18:49] <ikonia> RageCraze: run this "find /sys | grep drivers.*07:00.0 "
[18:50] <RageCraze> permisson denied ikonia
[18:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[18:51] <ikonia> RageCraze: use sudo
[18:52] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia http://pastebin.com/dPcgpgYi this is what i get when i run that command
[18:52] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia just logged in from my linux since i got my wifi back
[18:52] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia but i know its gonna go away again when i restart
[18:54] <LiENUS> xangua, format the usb drive?
[18:54] <LiENUS> i've tried formatting it as fat and ntfs
[18:55] <xangua> LiENUS: how about delete the partition with fdisk?
[18:55] <LiENUS> i keep getting "could not write the disk image (ubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso) to the device (/dev/sdb)."
[18:55] <LiENUS> xangua, leave it unpartitioned?
[18:55] <dinet> good evening. is there a good way to se what is holding upp an lamp-install when serving wordpress-sites? I got some helt last week to get apache running after an upgrade to 16.04 and now the pages are really slow
[18:55] <xangua> LiENUS: or dd
[18:56] <LiENUS> xangua, what with dd?
[18:56] <LiENUS> yeah deleted partition and still fails
[18:56] <R7M440> Hello, can someone tell me which version of ubuntu will work with my AMD R7 M440, I tried the lastest version but i got troubles with the drivers...
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[18:57] <RageCraze> ikonia you there ?
[18:57] <LiENUS> tried running it under gksudo it fails
[18:57] <xangua> LiENUS: did you try another USB?
[18:57] <R7M440> MonkeyDust What?
[18:57] <ikonia> RageCraze: yes
[18:57] <RageCraze> ikonia what do i do now?
[18:57] <ikonia> RageCraze: wait
[18:57] <RageCraze> ikonia is there a fix for this?
[18:57] <RageCraze> ikonia okey
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  in a terminal winow, what is the output of the command    cat /etc/issue
[18:58] <LiENUS> xangua, the only other one i have is dead
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> window*
[18:58] <R7M440> MonkeyDust I didn't install ubuntu yet, I want a version that will work...
[18:59] <freefall> anyone able to help me with a problem of upgrading lubuntu from 16.04-16.10 im getting python error
[18:59] <xangua> LiENUS: :-( don't know then, I write several times using the USB creator with no issues
[18:59] <ikonia> RageCraze: do you see a package if you do "sudo dpkg -l | grep RT3290_u16"
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  use a live session to test things
[19:00] <R7M440> MonkeyDust you mean the ''trial'' thing?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  yes
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  'try ubuntu'
[19:00] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia nothing shows up when i do that
[19:00] <R7M440> MonkeyDust Ok, brb
[19:01] <ikonia> RAgecrazelinux: ok, install that package
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  also: in this channel, type     /topic
[19:01] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia how do i install it?
[19:01] <ikonia> RAgecrazelinux: open the package manager, search for it and install it
[19:02] <R7M440> MonkeyDust Done, what's that for
[19:02] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia i dont find any package manager on the computer when i search for it
[19:02] <ikonia> RAgecrazelinux: to give you context, it looks like your machine is trying to use the wrong kernel module for your wifi card, that package so install the correct one for you
[19:02] <freefall> wish the live cd would do upgrade but it want to side install 16.10 with 16.04 and i dont want to do a clean install.. so why wont it upgrade the os...
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  to make sure you don't install an unsupported release
[19:02] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia alright but i dont know how to open package manager
[19:02] <ikonia> RAgecrazelinux: "sudo apt-get install RT3290_u16"
[19:03] <ikonia> freefall: just explain the problem to the channel rather than talking into the air
[19:03] <RAgecrazelinux> Unable to locate package RT3290_u16 ikonia
[19:03] <ikonia> !info RT3290_u16
[19:03] <ikonia> hmm
[19:04] <freefall> when i use the gksu "/media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" it crash with a python error
[19:04] <freefall> i dont have a rom drive in pc so i put the iso on a usb drive
[19:04] <ikonia> RAgecrazelinux: have a read of this http://askubuntu.com/questions/778553/ralink-rt3290-driver-module-not-launching-and-i-cant-figure-out-why/779307#779307
[19:05] <freefall> mounted it with the loop thing and it show up but the os dont see the updated os so i manually trigger it
[19:05] <ikonia> RAgecrazelinux: i have to step away, but that page should detail how to do it
[19:06] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia i dont undesrstand a thing please help me :(
[19:06] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia my english is bad
[19:06] <freefall> i used a iso to usb and both want to install over it or side install the new os which i dont want i just want to upgrade my distro
[19:06] <newdan> I am running 16.04 and all the sudden when I try to start VirtualBox VMs I get an error that it failed to open/create the internal network 'HostInterfaceNetwork-xxxxxx' (you might need to modprobe vboxnetflt to make it accessible)
[19:07] <newdan> But AFAICT I have vboxnetflt loaded
[19:08] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia how do i install that? it just opens a lot of folders
[19:08] <RAgecrazelinux> ikonia i cant even get it to install
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  keep it in the channel
[19:09] <LiENUS> well hmm mkusb works
[19:09] <R7M440> MonkeyDust
[19:09] <LiENUS> so def gotta be something going on with usb-creator-gtk
[19:09] <ducasse> freefall: pretty sure upgrading from cd/usb hasn't been supported in quite a while
[19:09] <freefall> traceback says ** (yakkety:2169): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.dbus.error.serviceunknow: the name org.ally.bus was not provided by any .service files
[19:09] <R7M440> MonkeyDust Ok, so i got nothing from that command
[19:09] <RAgecrazelinux> guys how do i install a file that i downloaded from internet on ubuntu??
[19:09] <RAgecrazelinux> please help
[19:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ragecraze what file ?
[19:10] <jmay> what is the file?
[19:10] <jmay> .deb? or .tar?
[19:10] <RAgecrazelinux> i donwloaded rt3290 from the internet
[19:10] <freefall> traceback (most recentcall last): file "/tmp/tmp.Hauntc7l73/yakkety", line 8, in <module> sys.exit(main())
[19:10] <RAgecrazelinux> its .tar
[19:10] <RAgecrazelinux> .tar .gz
[19:10] <R7M440> MonkeyDust ''No such file or directory''
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  then you mistyped      cat /etc/issue
[19:11] <freefall> file "/tmp/tmp.hauntc7l73/distupgrade/distupgradmain.py", line 242 in main if app.run():
[19:11] <freefall> does these error help?
[19:11] <jmay> need to extract it, and what i do not sure if its right, i do ./configure ./make ./makeinstall
[19:11] <ducasse> freefall: just do a network upgrade.
[19:11] <R7M440> MonkeyDust Probably, brb
[19:12] <freefall> how do i do a network upgrade?
[19:12] <ducasse> !upgrade | freefall
[19:14] <R7M440> MonkeyDust 16.04.1 LTS
[19:17] <Dreaman> R7M440: free druver is good for radeon
[19:17] <Dreaman> driver
[19:17] <R7M440> Dreaman what?
[19:18] <Dreaman> free driver is good for radeon video cards
[19:18] <Dreaman> just instal latest ubuntu
[19:19] <R7M440> Dreaman then what?
[19:20] <Dreaman> intal latest ubuntu see in uodates driver options
[19:20] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: I'm a bit late to the convo, but I run an AMD graphics card. What was your question?
[19:20] <Dreaman> my laptop work driver but is 940 nvidia
[19:21] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 hey, no problem. I'm having trouble to install the drivers for the M440 on my 16.04.1 LTS
[19:21] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: AMD M440? (I'm not familiar with all the model numbers)
[19:22] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 AMD R7 M440
[19:22] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: I don't think you should have to leave the LTS (16.04) for this...
[19:22] <Dreaman> upgreat to 16.10
[19:22] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Okay, before I say anything else, open up About This Computer (on the power menu)
[19:23] <CodeMouse92> What does it say under Graphics?
[19:23] <geobatman> Hola
[19:24] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 done
[19:24] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: What does it say?
[19:24] <CodeMouse92> Under Graphics?
[19:25] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Intel Kabylake GT2, and i got a dedicated AMD R7 M440 installed
[19:25] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 The AMD doesn't appear there though
[19:26] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Huh, okay, that doesn't sound like it's using the right driver for AMD even
[19:26] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: There are a couple of directions you could go with for this, but I do NOT recommend upgrading to Ubuntu 16.10 for either path....
[19:26] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: One, you could install the open source driver. It isn't perfect, but it's FOSS
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  in a terminal, type    lspci | grep -i audio
[19:27] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: The other path would be to install the official AMD drivers for that card, which officially support 16.04: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[19:28] <CodeMouse92> Compat info: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver–Release-Notes.aspx
[19:28] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 The second thing was what i did, didn't work
[19:28] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Hm, okay. When you say 'didn't work', what exactly happened?
[19:29] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 It seemed like it installed correctly, and asked for restart. But when logging in back, it froze, and i didn't have display
[19:30] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 I tried everything and ended up with a black screen, and a useless ubuntu
[19:30] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: So, it's unbootable atm?
[19:31] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 What?
[19:31] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: You said you wound up with a useless ubuntu. Is it presently unusable?
[19:31] <CodeMouse92> Or did you already uninstall the driver?
[19:31] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Yeah, i got to reinstall it
[19:32] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 I gotta*
[19:32] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Okay, before you reinstall Ubuntu, let's see if we can't get the driver off
[19:32] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: They packed an uninstall script into it, so if we can get to the root recovery terminal, we should be able to run that
[19:32] <freefall> ducasse, thanks you for that info.. that got it going
[19:33] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 I cannot access any terminal
[19:33] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 not anymore
[19:33] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Well, you actually can. When you turn it on and reach GRUB (it should get that far)...
[19:33] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: go to Advanced
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> R7M440  ctrl-alt-f1
[19:33] <ducasse> freefall: no problem, enjoy :)
[19:34] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 yeah, i was having that in mind when i said i cannot haha
[19:34] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Wait, GRUB isn't even coming up?
[19:35] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 no, it freezes and i have to force the shutdown of the computer
[19:35] <CodeMouse92> The graphics driver shouldn't have an effect on that...the kernel isn't even loaded yet, much less any drivers
[19:36] <CodeMouse92> So, the AMD thing must have screwed up a whole lot more than just the driver
[19:36] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: At what point does it crash? Right after POST?
[19:36] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 I told you i tried everything.... must have touch something without knowing..
[19:37] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Okay, let me check something. Just a sc
[19:37] <CodeMouse92> *se
[19:37] <CodeMouse92> **sec
[19:37] <LiENUS> is there a 32 bit efi ubuntu image?
[19:37] <EriC^^> LiENUS: yes
[19:37] <EriC^^> grub-efi-ia32
[19:37] <LiENUS> EriC^^, is it on the livedisk for i386?
[19:37] <EriC^^> LiENUS: wait you said image? i dont think so
[19:37] <EriC^^> not sure
[19:38] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 I think it'll be faster to begin from 0
[19:38] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Yeah, go ahead and go for a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 16.04. I still would recommended sticking with that, and NOT upgrading
[19:38] <EriC^^> LiENUS: are you trying to install on some hybrid tablet/pc kind of device?
[19:38] <LiENUS> EriC^^, trying to liveusb boot on one and get data off a dying one
[19:38] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Ok, i'll install the same one
[19:38] <CodeMouse92> Unless you literally need Kernel 4.8 or something else in the 16.10 changelog (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes)
[19:38] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Brb
[19:39] <CodeMouse92> (Reason for that advice, if you don't need to incur the instability of a non-LTS for some feature, don't bother)
[19:39] <LiENUS> someone decided running backups was unimportant
[19:39] <ducasse> CodeMouse92: if he does, that will be available for 16.04 in ~2 weeks
[19:40] <EriC^^> LiENUS: http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[19:40] <CodeMouse92> ducasse: Good to know! I had a feeling it'd show up for the LTS eventually.
[19:40] <EriC^^> LiENUS: looks like you're going to have to download the 32bit efi file and copy it to the live usb manually, doesn't seem too bad
[19:40] <CodeMouse92> I had so many problems jumping between the non-LTS versions on the last iteration, I decided to stay put this time until there was a showstopper feature I wanted.
[19:40] <xangua> CodeMouse92: you can actually (will in late January)install yaketty kernel and xorg
[19:41] <LiENUS> EriC^^, it looks like he used an amd64 image of ubuntu though? what?
[19:41] <CodeMouse92> xangua: Ah, Xorg's getting updated on LTS too? Nice.
[19:41] <ducasse> CodeMouse92: yes, it's part of the hwe stack
[19:41] <CodeMouse92> Makes sense. They don't call it "long term support" for nothing
[19:42] <LiENUS> aaand since my liveusb is read only for some reason
[19:43] <EriC^^> LiENUS: check the 2nd answer
[19:43] <EriC^^> LiENUS: err, 1st answer
[19:44] <EriC^^> LiENUS: you're going to have to make the live usb a different way
[19:44] <LiENUS> EriC^^, seems mkusb buggered my flash drive somehow
[19:44] <EriC^^> LiENUS: nah
[19:45] <LiENUS> gnome disk manager wont let me delete the partitions
[19:45] <EriC^^> LiENUS: do you plan to use it all for the live usb?
[19:45] <EriC^^> nothing else important on it?
[19:45] <LiENUS> at this point nope
[19:45] <xangua> LiENUS: did you try to delete them with fdisk?
[19:46] <EriC^^> LiENUS: try sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=4M count=1
[19:46] <EriC^^> LiENUS: use "lsblk" to get its name
[19:49] <LiENUS> got em to delete with fdisk
[19:51] <EriC^^> LiENUS: make a gpt partition table
[19:52] <EriC^^> using gdisk /dev/sdX then o then w
[19:53] <WeeceyWoo> hello
[19:53] <WeeceyWoo> I'm not sure of any good channels to join?
[19:54] <WeeceyWoo> hello
[19:54] <EriC^^> WeeceyWoo: what topic are you interested in?
[19:59] <noneya> test
[20:01] <LiENUS> aand now to wait an hour or two for debian to download :/
[20:16] <Guy1524> hey guys, in Ubuntu, is it possible to force maximise a 640x480 window via scaling?
[20:17] <Exterminador> well, i've finally started the dd command. i've done: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M status=progress. now, is just wait that it finishes, right? it's coping at 79.1MB/s. not a bad speed huh?
[20:17] <Guy1524> still want to actual resolution to be 640x480, just scaled so it is maximised
[20:17] <Exterminador> */dev/sda
[20:20] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Whehhhh .. glad ya caught that oversight of mine . One can get a status of dd in anothr terminal .
[20:21] <Exterminador> just one question. on the progress appears: 798.001 s on the output. that's the number of seconds since i've started dd cmd?
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Honestly, I do not remember .
[20:22] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i've readed the man dd, to see if i can see the progress. and i found that i should append status=progress to the command. xD
[20:22] <ioria> Exterminador,  sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)
[20:23] <Exterminador> ioria: that prints the time since i've started the dd?
[20:23] <Bashing-om> ioria: :) to the rescue !
[20:23] <ioria> lol
[20:23] <ioria> Exterminador,  nope, percentage
[20:24] <ioria> Exterminador,  wait, also the secs
[20:25] <H3dgeH0g> hy guys from 2 days i have some microlag/freeze with mouse pointer and on games like cs go i have always microfreeze like the mouse. i got the same problem on ubuntu (16.04 and 16.10) and arch linux with different de, my gpu is a gtx 950 with propietary drivers (nvidia-367)
[20:25] <Exterminador> erm. no command 'pgrep' found
[20:26] <Exterminador> i'm doind the dd from the usb.. (should be like this, right?)
[20:26] <wafflejock> Exterminador, you can always use the date command before executing or use time command to run the command and record the time, doesn't give you time while it's running though just total time
[20:26] <H3dgeH0g> guys reply me pls
[20:27] <ioria> !info procps | Exterminador
[20:27] <ioria> Exterminador,  are you sure ?
[20:28] <wafflejock> H3dgeH0g, is the animation and all freezing up or just the mouse interaction?
[20:28] <H3dgeH0g> just the mouse interaction
[20:28] <Exterminador> well, with all the options i've used on dd command, the output is: xxxxxxx bytes (x Gb, X GiB) copied, X s, X MB/s
[20:28] <H3dgeH0g> when i write all is fluid
[20:28] <Exterminador> ioria: if i'm sure that i've executed the command from the live usb?
[20:29] <ioria> Exterminador,  nope, pgrep not found
[20:29] <H3dgeH0g> wafflejock: just the mouse interaction
[20:29] <ioria> Exterminador,  ls /usr/bin/pgrep
[20:30] <wafflejock> H3dgeH0g, not sure could try some other hardware maybe to try and narrow it down do you have another USB mouse available to try or can try another USB port, haven't seen that kind of behavior myself, I had a GTX670 and now a 1060 but didn't try the latter with Ubuntu yet, since it's just the mouse I wouldn't suspect the GPU or drivers though
[20:30] <H3dgeH0g> wafflejock: i already tried with an other mouse
[20:30] <H3dgeH0g> the same problem
[20:31] <H3dgeH0g> i try another port usb now
[20:31] <H3dgeH0g> btw i never got this problem before now
[20:31] <Exterminador> ioria: my bad! :x i've typed pgreg instead pgrep
[20:31] <Exterminador> :x
[20:31] <ioria> lol
[20:32] <Exterminador> ioria: even thought. dd with the status=progress shows the seconds while working
[20:33] <ioria> Exterminador,  yeah, it's a new feature
[20:34] <Exterminador> 1580s to do 121Gb (26mins)
[20:34] <Exterminador> to do the 500Gb of the disk will take more than 1h. Bashing-om warned me about that
[20:34] <Exterminador> lol
[20:35] <Exterminador> next time, i'll increase the bs.. lol
[20:35] <ioria> Exterminador, me took the whole afternoon :þ
[20:36] <saju_m> I have a question
[20:36] <saju_m> I want to install ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.6
[20:36] <Exterminador> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M status=progress -> note that down when someone needs to zero out a drive. :)
[20:37] <tyriondwarf> how do I stop the annoying require password when using sudo
[20:37] <saju_m> But when i do apt-get install ntp, it installs ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.10
[20:37] <Exterminador> ioria: i have a Dual Core T4300 @ 2.10Ghz (1.20Mhz)
[20:37] <ioria> Exterminador, in this case very good   ... hard drive ?
[20:37] <saju_m> apt-cache policy ntp shows like this
[20:38] <saju_m> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23729692/
[20:38] <tyriondwarf> TCPKeepAlive yes, ClientAliveInterval 30, ClientAliveCountMax 9999
[20:38] <Exterminador> ioria: note sure. i guess it's a WD disk
[20:38] <ic2000> if i'm using kubuntu and having a bad problem, would that problem have a chance of going away if i get ubuntu
[20:38] <tyriondwarf> why do i have to provide sudo password constantly still?
[20:39] <saju_m> How can I install particular version of a package, Which source.list entry should i add ?
[20:39] <Exterminador> how do i check what disk i have?
[20:39] <ioria> saju_m, are you on trusty ?
[20:39] <saju_m> yes
[20:40] <ioria> saju_m, it's ok, then
[20:40] <xangua> ic2000: or you could describe your actual problem instead of making it an XY problem
[20:40] <ic2000> xangua: wifi adapter just isn't working. i reinstalled kubuntu and it worked until i unplugged it
[20:41] <saju_m> ioria, sorry, i didn't get
[20:41] <ioria> Exterminador, sudo lshw -C disk
[20:41] <ioria> saju_m,  it's the correct version
[20:41] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: ' sudo lshw -C Disk -short ' ?
[20:41] <ic2000> xangua: i've tried everything, nothing will work it makes no sense whatsoever
[20:41] <ic2000> especially since it was working for a whole day today until i take it out
[20:42] <xangua> ic2000: no idea, I don't use Wi-Fi adapter
[20:42] <ioria> saju_m,  if you ask me, don't install not supported version (btw, you can force it)
[20:42] <saju_m> ioria, i want to add an entry in source.list which contains only ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.6
[20:42] <Exterminador> ioria: like i've said. product: WDC WD5000BEVT-2; vendor: Western Digital
[20:42] <saju_m> note the ending part ubuntu2.14.04.6
[20:42] <Exterminador> seems to be a good hdd
[20:43] <saju_m> i don't want ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.10
[20:43] <Exterminador> 35mins to fo 162Gb. xD
[20:43] <Exterminador> *do
[20:43] <saju_m> more specific,  I need this particular ntp package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.6
[20:44] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Fast little processor :)
[20:44] <saju_m> but right now, trusty repo contains updated ntp package ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.10
[20:44] <ioria> yes
[20:45] <ioria> saju_m,  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp
[20:45] <saju_m> ioria, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ntp/
[20:45] <ioria> saju_m,  seems  to be vivid
[20:46] <saju_m> ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.6 is not there in above repo
[20:46] <ioria>  !info ntp vivid
[20:46] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: seems so. and this laptop is already 7y old. Acer Aspire 5738ZG.. Intel Pentium processor T4300 (2.1Ghz, 800Mhz FSB), 4Gb RAM.. :)
[20:47] <ioria> saju_m,  6.3 in the vivid repo , but advice against it
[20:47] <Exterminador> it's DDR3 already the RAM (if that makes any difference)
[20:47] <saju_m> but in launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.6
[20:48] <saju_m> its mentioned that uploaded to Trusty
[20:48] <ioria> saju_m,  yes, but you need to compile it. i guess
[20:48] <saju_m> ioria, ok
[20:49] <Exterminador> anyway we can install packages in the live usb?
[20:49] <Exterminador> :x
[20:50] <xangua> Exterminador: ya
[20:50] <ioria> saju_m,  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu6
[20:51] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Yeah, but unless you built the USB with persistence enabled, will not live over a reboot .
[20:51] <saju_m> ioria, my requirement is this
[20:51] <tinfoil_hat> make an live usb with persistance
[20:52] <saju_m> i want to upgrade ntp to 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.6,   to get some security fixes
[20:52] <ioria> saju_m,  try to compile the tar.gz but not sure it'll work
[20:52] <tinfoil_hat> extract it
[20:53] <edmund> hello
[20:54] <edmund> i want to create a usb installer via dd. should i unmount the usb stick before?
[20:54] <saju_m> ioria, what is the better way.   use the package in the trusty-updates ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23729692/
[20:54] <ioria> saju_m,  the better is to use your rpo version, i think
[20:54] <tinfoil_hat> edmund, yes
[20:54] <ioria> *repo
[20:55] <saju_m> ioria, ok, thanks
[20:55] <ioria> saju_m,  no prob, good luck
[20:56] <edmund> tinfoil_hat: so: 1. lsblk to identify the usb stick  2. unmount the usb stick  3. using dd
[20:56] <edmund> that's all?
[21:01] <craysiii> Hey everyone, I am quite puzzled. I am trying to install ubuntu server 16.04.1 on my desktop, and later install a DE. I am trying to set up software raid with MDADM, and ive come to a point where i need to use fdisk, but when i use CTRL-ALT-F2 to access busybox shell, it says fdisk doesn't exist, nor can I install it via apt (doesn't exist either). how can i use fdisk in this situation?
[21:02] <shambat_> having some problems with a disk in my btrfs array. I have 4 disks in raid10, where /dev/sde is showing 100% busy and reads from it are causing 100% iowaits on the reading core. I started a scrub which is taking a long time, and my kern.log has a lot of: "blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector <number>" in it.
[21:08] <Exterminador> 60,5 mins to do 260Gb. i'm almost there! xD
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> shambat  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:08] <Bashing-om> craysiii: fumm .. "fdisk" is in a standard install by defualt . what results ' sudo fdisk -lu ' ?
[21:09] <craysiii> well Bashing-om, i will get a "sudo: not found" error
[21:09] <craysiii> this is during installation, so there is no actual install yet
[21:10] <craysiii> i am just accessing busybox during the installation via CTRL-ALT-F2
[21:10] <shambat> MonkeyDust: ok thanks. there's also a #btrfs I realized :)
[21:10] <craysiii> i am trying to follow this guide : http://askubuntu.com/questions/505446/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-with-raid-1-using-desktop-installer
[21:10] <craysiii> which i know has worked for me during ubuntu desktop installation
[21:11] <craysiii> my attempts to install the soft raid using the built in menus for mdadm failed
[21:13] <Bashing-om> craysiii: Do not know as 'fdisk' is available in my fresh install of 16.04 and the tool is not a "package" one can download and install .
[21:14] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: not a good idea run smartctl while zero out the drive, right?
[21:16] <craysiii>  thanks anyway Bashing-om
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Concur, not a good idea .
[21:17] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i can run the smartctl right after zero out the drive? or i need to reboot or something?
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: I would expect it to be just fine to run the smart test as soon as the drive is zero'd out .
[21:18] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: you'll be around for how long?
[21:19] <Exterminador> i've done 303Gb in 72 mins
[21:19] <Exterminador> 200 Gb +/- remaining
[21:20] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: I got to be away for a spell in about 20 minutes . but I will leave my client active and be back soonest .
[21:21] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i'll paste the output of smartctl into the ubuntu pastebin as soon as the drive is zero'd out
[21:21] <Exterminador> then you can take a look
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: K .. but there are others better qualified to interpret the SMART result :)
[21:23] <LaloArgentina> hola
[21:24] <Exterminador> i'll post it and everyone can take a look. :)
[21:24] <Exterminador> i'm open to all opinions. xD
[21:26] <tekisui> hello
[21:26] <tekisui> what is a loop device ?
[21:27] <tekisui> ./dev/loop0
[21:27] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Ok, It's installed, what now?
[21:27] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Welcome back. :)
[21:27] <tekisui> ubuntu-core_423.snap ?
[21:27] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 thank you
[21:27] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Okay, open up About This Computer again, and post what's under "Graphics"
[21:28] <glitchd> so my other laptop would not boot. there was something wrong with the os(linux) so i made an .img of the entire hard drive and formatted it. now is there any way to mount the .img file i made of the hard drive to attempt any kind of data rescue?
[21:28] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Intel Kabylake GT2
[21:29] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Riiiiight. Okay, hm. What's your AMD graphic card model again?
[21:29] <R7M440> R7 M440, my name haha
[21:29] <CodeMouse92> Oh, handy
[21:30] <CodeMouse92> Okay, your card isn't listed on the open source Radeon driver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[21:30] <R7M440> =(
[21:31] <CodeMouse92> So....was the prior install fresh as well?
[21:31] <R7M440> yes
[21:31] <CodeMouse92> Okay, hm. Let me check something
[21:32] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: The official recommendation is indeed to use the new AMD driver you tried earlier...
[21:33] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: When you did that, however, did you follow the steps about adding the user to the video group before restarting?
[21:33] <quadsar> .
[21:34] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 I think so... I used the command groups and my login name was listed... I didn't do the following instruction as I didn't see it necessary..
[21:35] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Ahhhhh. Well, if you run 'groups', yes, you'll see your name. But the problem is, your account isn't a member of the 'video' group by default
[21:35] <CodeMouse92> Which is why they had the instruction after it
[21:35] <R7M440> Oh, so maybe that was THE problem
[21:36] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Worth a shot. Worst case, you reinstall and start over. :P
[21:36] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Please no! haha
[21:37] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 I'll try
[21:37] <R7M440> brbr
[21:37] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: It looks like, either you get this working, or you work with the current drivers. I don't think there are alternatives ATM ._.
[21:37] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Well, hope it works then
[21:38] <LiENUS> well sadly ubuntu failed me :( but i did discover clonezilla has efi 32 support so a disk image will do what i need
[21:38] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 brb
[21:39] <LiENUS> not much of a failing on ubuntus part though i am wanting to do something stupid
[21:42] <blami> LiENUS: are you trying to run it on a bay trail thing?
[21:46] <LiENUS> blami, probably
[21:47] <LiENUS> its an acer switch 10
[21:47] <LiENUS> i like the hardware tbh, just like all laptops i've bought lately its been horribly unreliable
[21:47] <LiENUS> i've had a lot of hardware failures right at 2 years accross the board on my laptops
[21:47] <LiENUS> yeah i believe it is bay trial
[21:47] <LiENUS> trail*
[21:49] <LiENUS> though I didn't realize the hd was soldered to the motherboard, if i had realized that i would probably have bought a different machine for this use
[21:49] <blami> LiENUS: there are prepared isos for those which have uefi ia32 version of grub and also some kernel patches ubuntu hasn't (yet)
[21:50] <blami> LiENUS: i'll pm you
[21:50] <LiENUS> blami, clonezilla is working for it for now, i'll be able to use it it looks like
[21:50] <LiENUS> i just need to pull data off a dying machine
[21:50] <blami> LiENUS: aha
[21:50] <LiENUS> its got our timeclock data on it and payroll is today
[21:50] <LiENUS> and the person who does payroll stopped doing backups
[21:50] <wiiguy> ?
[21:51] <wiiguy> nm
[21:51] <blami> LiENUS: oops
[21:52] <blami> LiENUS: i am running ubuntu on one of these. There's plethora of problems but it has only 2G of RAM so ubuntu with lxde is way faster than w10 there
[21:53] <LiENUS> blami, my only real complaint specific to it is the stupid soldered on disk, the reliability is an issue i've had accross the board lately no idea wtf is going on but manufacturers have been putting out crap the past two years
[21:54] <LiENUS> then again i havent tried to run linux on it till now
[21:54] <blami> LiENUS: yes, it's onboard sd card basically
[21:56] <blami> LiENUS: but hey those are around $300 so I wouldn't expect any better ... I am using syncthing to keep important stuff sync'd with my nas
[21:56] <blami> LiENUS: as it may die any time
[21:56] <Exterminador> well, dd is almost finished.. this is making me nervous!
[21:56] <LiENUS> blami, yeah she was supposed to be doing that
[21:58] <hansi> HELLO FRIENDS
[21:59] <LiENUS> looks like its the disk dying in it, so yeah i need clonezilla anyway it has a rescue mode
[21:59] <kittykitty> anyone know why when i shrink a partition in gparted it adds 2gibs of unallocated to the front of the disk?
[21:59] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Ok, it's installed, how do i add my user to the group?
[22:00] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: What's your username?
[22:00] <blami> LiENUS: in my previous company they failed our drives randomly over "remote control" software in probation period to see if we are doing backups properly
[22:00] <blami> LiENUS: that was best lesson I've got about doing backups :D ... losing week worth of coding and IT guy haha
[22:01] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Actually, just substitute it into this command (where I have yourusername)......$ sudo usermod -a -G video yourusername
[22:01] <blami> kittykitty: it may be weird partition schema where partition numbers aren't assigned in disk order
[22:02] <kittykitty> blami, literally just a single ntfs partition on the disk and i shrank it by 25gib
[22:02] <blami> kittykitty: that's weird
[22:02] <kittykitty> ikr blami
[22:03] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Ok, done. How do i check it's done?
[22:03] <kittykitty> blami, made me move the entire disk to the right for it too
[22:03] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 If i use groups should ''video'' be there?
[22:03] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Yes
[22:03] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 well, it isn't..
[22:03] <CodeMouse92> Aih
[22:05] <CodeMouse92> ....looking something up
[22:05] <R7M440> ok
[22:07] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: This driver is rather unfamiliar to me, so I'm leveraging some serious Google-Fu....
[22:07] <CodeMouse92> Anyway, the release notes mention Vulkan as part of the driver stack, and that it has to be installed separately
[22:07] <CodeMouse92> Since you got *this* far last time and it didn't work, it might be worth installing this part as well
[22:07] <CodeMouse92> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Install-LunarG-Vulkan-SDK.aspx
[22:08] <CodeMouse92> The step adding yourself to the video group relates to that, which may be why the group isn't showing up
[22:08] <R7M440> ok, let's see
[22:08] <R7M440> brb
[22:19] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Still nothing
[22:27] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Okay, then I regret to repost something from AMD's "known limitations"
[22:27] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: "Unable to log in to the system after driver installation on certain platforms."
[22:28] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Wait...you're saying "still nothing" in regards to it still not working>?
[22:28] <CodeMouse92> Or in regards to it not showing up on "groups"?
[22:30] <Exterminador> well guys, if anyone can take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23730196/
[22:30] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: ^
[22:31] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Still not showing i'm in the group. I logged out since i read you have to do it to see the changes. Guess what: IT CRASHED
[22:31] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Grah
[22:32] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Okay, so yeah, this is one of those "platforms" that AMD hasn't gotten it working on yet
[22:32] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 So no hope for me then..
[22:33] <Exterminador> i'll be around. when someone check my link, please highlight me. thanks in advance
[22:33] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Not yet. I think you're going to have to work on the default driver until either the open source Radeon driver starts working, or AMD fixes the bug
[22:34] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: You could contact their support, although I don't know anything about how helpful it is
[22:34] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Ok.. Well thank you very much for your help
[22:34] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: No prob. yeah, if you're under warrenty, get in touch w/ them and see what options you have
[22:34] <CodeMouse92> http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/contact
[22:35] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: Actually, better link: http://support.amd.com/en-us/contact
[22:36] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Ok, thanks! :)
[22:37] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Btw, what's your card model?
[22:37] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: I have it written down somewhere. Hold on
[22:38] <CodeMouse92> AMD Radeon HD 6520G
[22:38] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: ^^^^^ I'm running the open-source Radeon driver for it. Works pretty well.
[22:41] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 Ok, thank you for everything
[22:43] <CodeMouse92> R7M440: No problem. Best wishes!
[22:44] <R7M440> CodeMouse92 ;)
[22:51] <tony_> minitube for ubuntu going too fast.How do I slow it down?
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Back, lemme catch up and I get back at ya .
[22:55] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: no problem..at least, Current_Pending_Sector >> 0
[22:57] <Exterminador> i'm reinstalling the OSes. i'll keep this as it is and save for a SSD
[22:59] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i'll be kinda away, because of reinstalling stuff. anything, just highlight me
[23:00] <Darkchaos> Hey Guys, the recognition of the ethernet interfaces should happen during boot before starting x, right?
[23:00] <Darkchaos> I have the issue that Kubuntu Yakkety as my Qemu Guest suddenly stops recognizing the virtual network card although it is listed in lspci
[23:04] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: The smart tst looks like the drive is doable ............Now no errors. BUT -- do keep most excellent backup of you data ! I would not place full faith in that drive .
[23:06] <delinquentme> Having issues attempting to run the flask development server on startup with 16.04.  I want the *easiest* thing I can use to run two commands; and export for an ENV_VAR ... and a $ flask run
[23:06] <delinquentme> is supervisorclt the best thing to use here?
[23:07] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i'll do thar
[23:07] <Exterminador> *that
[23:07] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Re-install time and see what now happens :)
[23:08] <Exterminador> sure.after all reinstall, i'll run smartctl once again
[23:09] <makos20> su
[23:09] <makos20> sup
[23:12] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: once again, thank you for all the help, and to all those that have helped me since i'm in this channel. :)
[23:13] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Help is what we do , Hang with us and you too will be helping .
[23:14] <Exterminador> if i ever understand well how linux works, that's for sure
[23:15] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: I assure you, all it takes is time and effort . All else is provided - all the  tools !
[23:16] <Exterminador> well, now i must find how to partition well the hard disk, to install more than 2 OSes. lol
[23:17] <Tugger> any1 here do zfs on root on ubuntu?
[23:18] <k1l> Tugger: the zfs-on-linux project got a documentation about it: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Not a problem to partition for multiboot ; just takes knowing what you want :) . Look my system with 2 drives presently not connected: http://termbin.com/n2cg .
[23:20] <Tugger> yup I have read that. Im just trying to also use LUKS, but cant manage to get grub to recognize the installation
[23:20] <Tugger> just wondering if any1 else here has a luks zfs on root working?
[23:20] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: i'll try! xD
[23:23] <k1l> Tugger: sorry, i only use it for the data storage
[23:32] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: seems that i found out how to do it! xD
[23:33] <Exterminador> i still have 100Gb of spare space to install more OSes
[23:33] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Atta Boy ! No step for a stepper ! .
[23:34] <Exterminador> i've partitioned via windows disk manager. but didnt activate it. when installing Xubuntu i've choosed the unallocated space, partitioned it into a logical partition.. xD
[23:35] <Exterminador> and there we go!
[23:37] <jnewt> somewhere there's a setting that is making my tooltip text in liteide white on a nearly white background.  I can't find it.
[23:38] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: now i can install more linux distros without any concerns to grub?
[23:39] <Exterminador> i mean, it won't mess up anything?
[23:40] <Exterminador> nuno_nunes: o/
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Well, with more then 2 OS installed, you will learn grub .
[23:42] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: but, it will boot every single OS, right?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Not called the GRand Unified Bootloader (GRUB) for nothing .
[23:44] <Exterminador> :)
[23:44] <Exterminador> indeed things got a name for some reason
[23:45] <Exterminador> i've finished installing xubuntu. i'll update it and then run smartctl again
[23:45] <Exterminador> just to make sure
[23:45] <ismaris> I am having an issue deciphering why unattended upgrades is not actually installing updates from my mirrored trusty-security repo (Aptly).  I am not getting useful messages, even with debug.  Anyone have experience in this area?
[23:48] <metalhead> might anyone be willing to help troubleshoot a display issue in ubuntu 16.04
[23:57] <lasersaber> don't ask to ask, just state your issue.
[23:59] <Tugger> when i do update-grub it does not notice my zfs pool