[02:40] <efloid> how to completely disable/remove the kde device notifier subsystem?
[02:41] <efloid> i uncheck "enable automatic mounting of removable media" but it still flails when i attach devices and i just want it to die
[02:43] <efloid> "the process for the mtp protocol died unexpectedly"   aaaaggghhhh!
[02:52] <user|23287> Hello
[02:52] <user|23287> i just installed kubuntu but the GUI is not coming up and it opens command line instead
[02:52] <user|23287> how can I call the gUI?
[02:56] <user|36858> sintre, I got the system all set up
[02:56] <user|36858> sintre ^^
[03:01] <DarinMiller> user|23287:  at the prompt try typing: startx
[03:02] <efloid> well i guess i have to boot into windows if i want to transfer files from my Android Linux phone to my computer
[03:02] <efloid> because, yeah, transferring files from one Linux system to another doesn't work in 2017!
[03:03] <DarinMiller> efloid: if kdeconnect not working?
[03:03] <DarinMiller> efloid: which version of kubuntu?
[03:03] <DarinMiller> is^
[03:03] <efloid> DarinMiller: 16.10   i keep getting reprompted ad nauseaum for permission to allow, and notifications that mtp has died
[03:04] <DarinMiller> efloid: backports installed?
[03:04] <efloid> DarinMiller: yes
[03:04] <efloid> kdeconnect 1.0.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~
[03:04]  * DarinMiller checking his kdeconnect version....
[03:05] <efloid> thanks
[03:05] <efloid> otherwise i have a headless Linux server running Jessie that I can try plugging into and manually mounting from
[03:06] <efloid> dpkg -l '*' | grep '^kdeconnect'
[03:06] <efloid> oops
[03:07] <efloid> wrong window
[03:08] <DarinMiller> efloid: phone kde connect: 1.5, KDE: 1.0.1
[03:10] <DarinMiller> efloid: file transfer is working fine here via dolphin.  But I am not sure how to troubleshoot yours.
[03:10] <efloid> DarinMiller: so my phone and pc were unpaired
[03:11] <efloid> kde connect on phone is 1.5
[03:13] <DarinMiller> efloid: I was trying to find the kdeconnect ppa but came across this site: https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect
[03:17] <efloid> rebooting to Windows.  waste of time!
[03:21] <DarinMiller> i agree, rebooting into windows is a waste of time. :)
[05:17] <user|13368> hello all
[05:18] <sintre> hi
[05:18] <user|13368> someone knows the hardware requirements for kubunto 16-10?
[05:18] <user|13368> i am not sure if it can run on a old pentium laptop
[05:19] <user|13368> it comes with win7 originally
[05:20] <sintre> what are specs
[05:20] <sintre> proccesor and ram?
[05:21] <sintre> meanind what hardware do you have and i can compare that with the hardware i use to run it
[05:21] <sintre> meaning
[05:22] <user|13368> i am not sure, it is a pentium
[05:22] <DarinMiller> user|13368: 32 or 64b?
[05:22] <user|13368> i think that is 1gb ram
[05:23] <user|13368> i don't know
[05:23] <sintre> go to windows info
[05:23] <user|13368> i can't, it doesn't have a SO installed
[05:24] <sintre> so you have a computer with no operating system
[05:24] <user|13368> which version of kubutu can i install, if i supose that is 32 bit, 1 gb ram
[05:24] <user|13368> pentium
[05:24] <sintre> is this something someone gave you?
[05:24] <sintre> yes use 32 bit
[05:24] <DarinMiller> user|13368: Try a live boot with a 64b version.  If it's 32b, the live boot will tell you.
[05:25] <user|13368> ok
[05:25] <sintre> either or you'll find out
[05:25] <user|13368> i will try
[05:25] <user|13368> thank you
[05:27] <sintre> just heads up , i;ve run across alot of esl [ english as a second language] espeically in ubuntu channel
[05:27] <sudhirkhanger> Is backports relatively safe to use? I don't want to miss on Plasma releases.
[05:28] <sudhirkhanger> Safe as in won't break my system.
[05:28] <DarinMiller> sintre: my nvidia driver sabataged my wake from sleep test.  I will have to try a different laptop.
[05:28] <sintre> np , i'll test tomorrow lol last night was epic install with me being fault at step 1
[05:29] <sintre> aud yes
[05:29] <sintre> if trusted backports
[05:29] <DarinMiller> sudhirkhanger: A few isolated cases backports causes slight issues. But most of the issues backports fix far out weigh the problems.
[05:30] <DarinMiller> I have several multiboot systems running backports with no issues.
[05:30] <sintre> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[05:30] <sintre> never had a issue
[05:30] <DarinMiller> And if you encounter a major issue, you can use ppa-purge go back.
[05:30] <sudhirkhanger> DarinMiller: I would think so. There's a huge difference between Plasma shipped on LTS and the latest one.
[05:30] <sintre> so far , but bugs can creep in anywhere even with no mal intent
[05:30] <sudhirkhanger> Difference as in aesthetics.
[05:30] <DarinMiller> sudhirkhanger: exactly
[05:31] <sudhirkhanger> I have stayed away from Ubuntu family but on a new system I am giving it a try. Let's see how it goes. I am banking on Kubuntu LTS + backports.
[05:32] <sintre> :D
[05:32] <sintre> i use a newer system and older system
[05:32] <sintre> both with lts and backports
[05:32] <sudhirkhanger> Thanks sintre that's affirming.
[07:00] <esmermuh__> Hello
[07:00] <esmermuh> Is anybody there?
[07:00] <esmermuh>  Helloooooooooooooo
[07:01] <hateball> !help | esmermuh
[08:20] <lordievader> Good morning, happy new year!
[15:25] <i337> is there a way to save this video as a hd gif and set it as my wallpaper in kubuntu? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLEOwgm7OUQ
[16:23] <i337> how do i install libisofs-1 in kubuntu?
[16:24] <i337> libisofs-1
[16:44] <dex73r> hey, I have problem with installing Kubuntu, it gets stuck at https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211281315134308352/265879721395486721/c3c562ce-f938-4910-b2f4-144b8a2cd8ce2110906487.jpg state, after I doubleclick install Kubuntu and then the OS freezes, I'm booting with USB and the USB doesn't seem to do anything because diode is not flashing
[17:05] <i337> dex73r: try installing it from the boot menu instead of going into a live session
[17:14] <trinity> what's uuuuuuuppppppp
[17:26] <dex73r> i337: nothing changes still freezes at some point; I'm going to recreate the bootable usb but first I'll check whether the file is actually correct one, I'll probably be back soon ;(
[18:02] <jubo2> y0 a quick question
[18:03] <jubo2> Can having zero swap space cause system freezes even if there is still unused RAM?
[18:04] <jubo2> Coz I got this otherwise fine computer but occasionally (at least in K16.10, haven't tested any other OS) sometimes everything freezes except the mouse cursor and when the freeze is over it does the clicks and key presses in very rapid succession
[18:05] <jubo2> I would like to have made 4GB SWAP but system sais the 4GB was "unusable"
[18:05] <[Relic]> Not sure, but would guess yes, simply because spikes in ram usage may not be traceable completely since sensors usually trigger 1 per second or similiar
[18:05] <[Relic]> what is your ram?
[18:05] <jubo2> maybe I run out of primary partitions
[18:05] <jubo2> [Relic]: 16GB
[18:05] <[Relic]> so very unlikely
[18:06] <jubo2> yeah.. usually 5GB free with all apps opened
[18:06] <[Relic]> unless you run a ton of stuff like compiling or blender
[18:06] <jubo2> [Relic]: I'd test under Win10 but I don't know how to use it
[18:07] <[Relic]> how many partitions?
[18:07] <jubo2> They totally broke the logic coming from Win7
[18:07] <jubo2> [Relic]: Uhhh.. I dunno
[18:07] <jubo2> Lemme check
[18:13] <jubo2> uhh..
[18:13] <jubo2> Is there a imagebin with autoexpiration somewhere around
[18:16] <jubo2> There is like 500MB for Windows loader and 130 GB for Windows data. 20GB for root-partition and /dev/sda4 is extended partition with /dev/sda5 inside it (350 GB /home partition)
[18:17] <jubo2> I never got this primary vs. logical partition thing
[18:18] <jubo2> Otherwise this machine is all I need computer-wise but the freezes are lowering my quality of life
[18:18] <[Relic]> seems odd it won't let you create a swap
[18:19] <jubo2> [Relic]: do you see a reason in that partiion configuration why when I tried to leave 4GB for swap the system commented "not possible" when I tried to mark it as SWAP
[18:21] <[Relic]> 1t drive space so I can't think of anything, but haven't used dual boot
[18:22] <[Relic]> have you done a drive check lately to see if there are any bad sectors etc.?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> ju using GPT table ?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> jubo2,^
[18:23] <BluesKaj> swap is a primary partition on msdos partition tables , so you're only allowed 4 primaries
[18:24] <jubo2> [Relic]: BluesKaj: https://imagebin.ca/v/37db5zWaXemn
[18:24] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, do you know of any problems with using lightdm instead of sddm on 16.10
[18:24] <jubo2> BluesKaj: Okk.. so how do I fix this if the freezes are due to zero swap space
[18:26] <jubo2> is there any free diagnostic goodies I could run to find out what is causing the freezes?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> create a swap file instead of partition
[18:26] <[Relic]> is there something that you are usually doing when it freezes?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> [Relic], sddm is the default for 16.10 Kubuntu ...no idea about lightdm
[18:27] <jubo2> BluesKaj: how do I do that?
[18:28] <jubo2> I guess I just searchengine "create swap file on linux"
[18:28] <BluesKaj> do a search, there's all kinds of tuts for that
[18:28] <BluesKaj> on kubuntu, not linux
[18:29] <[Relic]> just been trying to get something to work and can't even figure out any errors so I was hoping switching to ightdm and doing the same things would maybe show me if it was sddm problem or elsewhere
[18:33] <jubo2> This looks "legit" https://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-swap-file#-step-checking-the-file-system
[18:35] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  Idon't know what your errors are or what's happening on your machine so it's hard for me to even guess at it
[18:36] <BluesKaj> jubo2, yup looks so
[18:36] <BluesKaj> gotta go for a few mins ...BBL
[18:37] <[Relic]> if I could find an error that would be helpful
[18:43] <jubo2> I wait what the HW shop that sold me this machine respond to my email
[18:43] <jubo2> But totally could try that setting up that swap file to see if that stops the freezes
[18:43] <jubo2> tomorrow
[18:43] <jubo2> now I feel sleepy
[18:44] <[Relic]> if you are on kunbutu you could use ksysguard and set it to cpu% and see what spikes
[18:57] <mgolden_> jubo2: I have run Kubuntu on an 8GB machine without swap for years. I don't think that's your problem
[19:02] <jubo2> mgolden_: ok. thanks for info
[19:03] <jubo2> I need to catch some shut-eye now
[19:03] <jubo2> maybe the HW dealer will respond to my email tomorrow
[19:04] <jubo2> maybe I should run a bunch of OS off a stick and see if the freezes exhibit in HW or are they caused by some SW malfunciton
[21:43] <RoidTUx> hi