[06:01] hi [06:02] happy new year ! [06:03] Happy new year, hikiko === JanC_ is now known as JanC [06:40] same to you duflu :-) [07:02] Good morning, and happy new year everyone! [07:52] Morning and happy new year pitti [07:57] hey duflu, good morning and happy new year! [09:02] OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:05] Good morning and happy new year desktopers :-) [09:09] hey Laney, hey flexiondotorg, happy new year! had some nice holidays? [09:11] hey pitti! ahoy flexiondotorg! [09:12] pitti: very good thanks! we went to the seaside (Brighton), then visited two lots of family and were up in the countryside in Yorkshire for the new year [09:12] after being 14° on Christmas Day it got down to -4° or so over NY [09:13] somebody had a telescope so we did some stargazing [09:14] pitti: what about you? [09:14] did you achieve some mind clearance? :-) [09:15] ready for the mind filling to begin now [09:24] Laney: I had a nice three weeks of holidays too, need to get into the mood of working again :) [09:25] spent the last two weeks in Dresden for meeting family and friends again [09:25] Oh, people in there today, was quite empty yesterday [09:25] happy new year desktopers [09:25] hey Laney pitti flexiondotorg [09:25] bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ? [09:26] pitti, ça va bien ! et toi ? [09:26] hey seb128! [09:26] happy new year to you [09:26] did you have some good holidays? [09:26] j'ai une petite rhume, mais sinon bien, merci ! [09:26] holidays were great, quite relaxing [09:27] hi everyone :) [09:27] was just lacking the winter weather for the first half [09:27] hey chrisccoulson! [09:27] were you in france or nl or both? [09:28] pitti, Like Laney we've been at the coast. The Lulworth Cove and then Dawlish. Got back last night. [09:28] Much fun with the whole extended family :-) [09:29] in France from the 19th until new year [09:29] seb128, Morning :-) [09:29] * seb128 wonders if yesterday was a "free" Canonical holiday day [09:30] it was pretty empty and hr had it flagged as an holidays for everyone [09:30] fantastique! [09:30] It was in the UK. Public Holiday. [09:30] substitute day for new years day [09:30] happy new year guys! Ah, this channel is active :) [09:31] Laney, right, u.k does that but e.g France doesn't [09:31] yep [09:31] Happy New Year didrocks! [09:31] I thought about you yesterday :P [09:31] :-) [09:31] hey didrocks [09:31] some good holidays for you too? [09:31] oh, a pitti is here as well! [09:31] glückliches neues Jahr [09:31] :) [09:32] yeah, holidays were good, the last week a little bit less as both Julie and I got a cold [09:32] didrocks: gesundes Neues auch fuer Dich! [09:32] (fortunately, I was the only one to get bad fiever) [09:32] * Laney was away with a sick person for the last few days too [09:32] wondering whether I will survive [09:33] * Laney hugs didrocks (not too close) [09:33] seems I caught a cold at last as well, too many people carrying it already :/ [09:33] * didrocks hugs Laney with some cautious then :) [09:33] yeah [09:33] at least "DONE" and hoping to be protected for a while (still coughing though) [09:34] stay strong! [09:35] ah, new year, new mailbox full of spam from linkedin [09:35] have to, crazy deadlines for now! ;) [09:36] holidays coming up :) [09:37] exactly ;-) [10:35] Who feels like backporting gcc 4.9 to precise and trusty? [10:37] doko? ;-) [10:39] heh === ahayzen_ is now known as ahayzen [12:10] chrisccoulson, because firefox? [12:10] xnox, yep [12:11] chrisccoulson, well, precise is EOL in 3 months. [12:12] Yeah, I can probably forget about precise [12:13] chrisccoulson, are you gonna ask for rustcc as well? [12:13] yeah, rust is going to be mandatory early this year. And it's going to require regular updates too [12:14] chrisccoulson, .... i bet there is toolchain-r ppa with 4.9 for trusty. but i don't think anybody will like using out of the archive toolchain to build firefox =/ === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [13:05] strategic error [13:06] * Laney has a blood donation appointment booked for tonight [13:06] no climbing /o\ [13:06] meeitng the vampires ? [13:07] weight loss === PaulW2U_ is now known as pcw [14:39] happy new year didrocks seb128 pitti and all :) ! [14:39] hey alexarnaud, happy new year! [14:54] hey alexarnaud, happy new year to you too! :) [15:11] man [15:11] i got a random container of soup out of the freezer for lunch [15:11] turned out to be HUGE [15:11] * Laney dies [15:19] you know that you don't have to eat it all, you can keep some for tonight! [15:20] :P [15:21] I put it all into the bowl [15:21] then it was there... [15:21] lol [15:21] bring some to the blood donation people [15:21] they'll have to get it out of me [15:21] probably have all the right equipment there though [15:22] heh [15:24] alarm testing guys are here and making lots of noise happen [15:24] * Laney gets tinnitus [15:31] k, let's have an easy meeting round, everybody but willcooke and robert_ancell are supposed to be back but the channel has been quiet today so might be good to have that one :-) [15:31] #startmeeting [15:31] Meeting started Tue Jan 3 15:31:33 2017 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:31] Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:31] o/ [15:32] Happy new year, all! [15:32] oh no [15:32] it's tuesday! [15:32] lol, so we have some desktopers back who were hidding [15:32] I thought it's monday [15:32] happy new year and first meeting [15:32] hey Sweet5hark, hikiko [15:32] happy new year!!! [15:32] hey FJKong! [15:32] omgmeeting [15:32] happy new year all :-) [15:32] hey desrt [15:32] hello everyone :D [15:32] I have no bullets, I was on holidays!!! [15:32] ditto [15:33] hikiko, just woke up? :p [15:33] like everyone else I guess [15:33] lol seb128 [15:33] hikiko, desrt, read email? [15:33] can you believe i haven't seen you guys since last year? [15:33] hahaha [15:33] * Sweet5hark has no bullet, but read seb128s mail ;) [15:33] attente: i saw you this year already :p [15:33] ah right :P [15:33] hikiko, I said so in the reminder, probably no status update to share (except for people who were working after the last december meeting and took some notes they want to share) [15:33] lol [15:33] :) [15:34] sorry then, I didn't see it :( [15:34] ok, let's have a round, if you have no status update just say some greeting and that you don't have anything else [15:34] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: andyrock [15:34] andyrock, hey! [15:34] he was around yesterday, not today he seems :p [15:35] next [15:35] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: attente [15:35] attente, hey :-) [15:35] hey seb128! [15:35] attente, don't pretend you are not there, I saw you :p [15:35] lol [15:35] lol [15:35] it was a super short week, i think i just followed up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bubblewrap/+bug/1649330 [15:35] Ubuntu bug 1649330 in bubblewrap (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] bubblewrap unavailable on xenial" [Undecided,New] [15:36] happy new year everyone :) [15:36] oh right, that one, I note to have a look this week to see if I can help with it [15:36] thanks attente, happy new year to you too! ;-) [15:36] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: desrt [15:36] desrt, hey [15:36] hi! [15:36] uh... started working an hour ago after a very long time off :) [15:37] larsu is sleeping in the next room [15:37] k, good luck getting back in work mode! [15:37] nice [15:37] had a good christmas, new years, lots of fun, etc. [15:37] time to make some tea? ;-) [15:37] hope everyone else did too [15:37] we (+mascha) did coffee so far... tea will be soon, i think :) [15:37] I did, and seems like most of us did as well [15:37] thanks desrt! [15:37] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: dgadomski [15:38] dgadomski, hey, unsure if you are around :-) [15:38] happy new year everyone! nothing to share yet this year, just got back today :) [15:38] welcome back and happy news year! [15:38] new [15:38] #topic FJKong === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: FJKong [15:38] FJKong, hey [15:39] not too much to share, just have a meeting with NUDT guys last month [15:39] have some bugs to update [15:39] eof [15:39] k, thanks FJKong [15:39] #topic flexiondotorg === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: flexiondotorg [15:39] flexiondotorg, hey [15:39] Happy New Year everyone! [15:39] thanks, to you too :-) [15:39] · Created snaps for Lightworks and Spotify. [15:39] · Met with Lightworks product manager. [15:39] · Video conferences with Spotify and Mail-In-A-Box. [15:40] · Assisted with bug where snapcraft parts using debs don't recreate symlinks (LP: #1634813) [15:40] Launchpad bug 1634813 in Snapcraft "Symbolic links inside .deb pulled as directories" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1634813 [15:40] · Made some snaps for MATE applications using the GTK3 platform snap. [15:40] oh, nice, how did that go? [15:40] · Fixes for HexChat snap (upstreamed) [15:40] you can probably tell us after the meeting [15:40] · Assisted JetBrains product manager who has now started snapping IntelliJ IDEA [15:40] · Assisted electron-builder developer with adding the final pieces for snap support. electron-builder can now produce snaps. [15:40] 🎬 [15:40] great! [15:41] I saw they had commited support for flatpak but I didn't see there was work ongoing for snap as well [15:41] thanks flexiondotorg! [15:41] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: happyaron [15:41] happyaron, hey [15:41] hey [15:41] 1. opencc SRU to yakkety [15:41] 2. update network-manager for x, y, z series [15:41] 3. becomes Debian co-maintainer of network-manager [15:41] 4. went over ~300 bugs of network-manager and related packages (applet, plugins, wpa, etc) [15:41] 5. fcitx's low reproduce rate infinite loop fix and SRU (LP: #1652591) [15:41] Launchpad bug 1652591 in fcitx (Ubuntu Yakkety) "[SRU] fcitx 100% CPU usage on rare case" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652591 [15:41] EOF [15:42] test [15:42] happyaron, oh, well done on becoming the debian n-m co-mainainer ;-) [15:42] hikiko, we can read you :-) [15:42] happyaron, thanks [15:42] sorry :) [15:42] #topic hikiko === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: hikiko [15:42] hikiko, and it's your turn! [15:42] hey! happy new year everyone! (greeting) well, I was on holidays.. :) [15:43] :-) [15:43] hope you had good holidays! [15:43] almost, apart from the fact that a plaster from a building fall on my car [15:43] and the building was our building [15:43] urg [15:43] everything else was great :) [15:43] nobody got hurt? [15:43] no fortunately I was inside [15:44] k, good then :-) [15:44] thanks hikiko! [15:44] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Laney [15:44] Laney, hey, busy with the alarm guy or back to keyboard? ;-) [15:44] BEEEPBEEEEP [15:44] he didn't type on the channel for a while so I assume he's busy [15:44] #topic qengho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: qengho [15:44] qengho, hey [15:45] hi [15:45] Happy new year! I tried not to work, but I needed to educate my 8-year-old son in Quake, so I installed "openarena" package, and then spent a long while debugging what looks like a new (in yakkety!) word-size pointer SEGV. LP: #1653007 [15:45] Launchpad bug 1653007 in ioquake3 (Ubuntu) "yakkety ioquake3 SEGV in variable handling code" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1653007 [15:45] oh [15:45] He escaped humiliation this time. [15:45] thought we weren't doing a round! [15:45] EOF [15:45] qengho, happy new year! [15:45] sorry qengho [15:45] 'S okay! [15:45] Missed you guys. [15:45] thanks qengho [15:45] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Laney [15:45] Happy new year. [15:46] didn't prepare anything, sorry, thought we were skipping [15:46] so I forgot what I did [15:46] Laney, see reminder email ;-) (just doing an easy round in case people had note from decembre and so we get people to get out of the corner and say hey ;-) [15:46] except today I fixed autopkgtest stuff [15:46] armhf got broken [15:46] yeah, I didn't expect updates [15:46] and some requests got lost [15:46] working now [15:46] looking at bugs/merges/etc currently [15:46] thanks Laney! [15:46] weirdly didn't have that much bug mail [15:46] like 20 unread today [15:46] yeah, same here [15:47] a stack of file-roller bugwatch that updated [15:47] and a few others [15:47] but not a lot [15:47] #topic Sweet5hark === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Sweet5hark [15:47] Sweet5hark, hey, your turn if you are done fixing Laney's alarm ;-) [15:47] happy new year everyone! [15:47] not much to share at this point: mail backlog, still coping with signal overload from #33c3 (likely last one that was in Hamburg with some 12.000 people) [15:47] next: finish the 5.3 beta snap, xenial SRU [15:47] EOF [15:48] Laney, sorry, I somewhat though you said you were done and you didn't, hope I didn't cut you in the middle of typing :-/ [15:48] Sweet5hark, happy new year :-) [15:48] nah [15:48] thanks Sweet5hark [15:48] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: tkamppeter [15:48] tkamppeter, hey [15:48] - A happy and driverless 2017 to everyone! [15:48] - cups-filters: Released 1.13.1 and 1.13.2 with many bug fixes and stability improvements, especially for bugs caused by the features added in 1.13.0 and bug found by the testing of driverless printing. [15:48] - cups-filters: Fixed support for URIs with IPv6 IP addreeses. [15:48] - cups-filters: Called for testing IPP Everywhere printing in Zesty on the ubuntu-devel mailing list and got some feedback leading to bug fixes. [15:48] - ippusbxd: Called for help on the ubuntu-devel list about network/distro integration of ippusbxd Bonjour-broadcasting the USB printers made a vailable as virtual network printers. Received a lot of help from pitti, stgraber, in the direction of using a dummy network interface with IPv6 ULA IP address. Got it mostly working, at least when cups-browsed auto-generates the print queue. [15:49] - First look into how IPP scanning works, to also get driverless scaning to work, letting a GSoC student make a SANE driver for IPP scanning. [15:49] - Google Summer of Code 2017: Working with Aveek Basu from lexmark India to find students. He is looking around at schools in India and sent me a first bunch of CVs. [15:49] - Bugs. [15:49] tkamppeter, happy new year to you as well! [15:49] lol [15:49] I saw from the mailing list that you have been busy during holidays [15:49] 2017: the year of driverless [15:50] if only i could find that ppd file... where did i download it from again? >:| [15:50] :-) [15:50] Yes, as I got a lot of answers on my call for help concerning the network bits for broadcasting a printer only locally. [15:50] Especially from stgraber but also from pitti. [15:50] tkamppeter, good work, nice to see you got replies on your issues as well [15:50] thanks tkamppeter! [15:50] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Trevinho [15:51] Trevinho, hey, happy new year! [15:51] italians are hidding, or late as usual it seems ;-) [15:51] or and I forgot my round [15:51] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: seb128 [15:52] typical french, generalising about italians [15:52] not a lot here, mostly enjoyed the holidays and did catching up on emails, bug reports and snappy work since yesterday [15:52] desrt, true, sorry about that :p [15:52] #topic aob === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: aob [15:52] :p [15:52] anything else? [15:53] fosdem [15:53] we should get a wrap on that and book tickets asap [15:53] and i don't think it was ever properly announced/asked to the whole team [15:53] right, reading the email it was clear to me that those who have non trivial travel cost should book [15:54] but otherwise we need willcooke for the details [15:54] do we even have an event code yet? [15:54] hotel can wait next week I think [15:54] flights are going to start getting really awful really quickly [15:54] oh, good point [15:54] Just take one of the 3 places and book it [15:54] right [15:54] but the event code is a good point [15:55] nah [15:55] well if she wants to book through the travel agent [15:55] i can't book with the travel agent without an approval [15:55] it's not needed [15:55] otherwise you can book&expense [15:55] and book&expense is ... deprecated [15:55] you don't need an evt, just a req [15:55] huh. i'll fill that out then [15:55] * desrt didn't know it was possible [15:55] (read some story recently: booking is cheapest ~3 weeks in advance on a sunday apparently) [15:55] well you need an approval no? [15:55] yes but you don't need an evt for that [15:55] k [15:55] thanks [15:56] so yeah, desrt please book the flight tickets at least [15:56] * desrt will look into that today [15:56] i'll find out which hotel to use [15:56] Laney, did you end up doing something about the hotel? [15:56] asking atm [15:56] I was going to wait for willcooke to be back for that [15:56] I got my room booked the day before fosdem last year [15:56] so I don't think we need it done this week [15:57] don't think it is necessary [15:57] though it would be better getting that sorted out [15:57] it's easy to get the agent to book it whenever [15:57] right [15:57] k, let's wrap the meeting, we can keep chatting then [15:57] thanks everyone [15:57] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment [15:57] Meeting ended Tue Jan 3 15:57:34 2017 UTC. [15:57] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-01-03-15.31.moin.txt [16:01] ok, they don't know which hotel yet [16:02] k [16:02] somebody keeps you update when they do? [16:02] updated [16:02] ye [16:02] good [16:03] * desrt forgets (again) where the travel request form is [16:04] desrt, query [16:04] thx [16:05] yw [16:05] I should think you can ping clan to get that approved so you don't have to wait a week [16:06] or ping $manager on telegram [16:07] the price he has to pay for not handling it before holidays! [16:07] he was trying to be fair [16:08] well, he replied saying to sort it out and book flights after most of us were already on holidays [16:08] but yeah maybe not his fault [16:08] had to go up the chain [16:09] he might have been waiting for an ack as well [16:09] right [16:09] not blaming anyone [16:09] :) [16:09] * Laney is happy to be able to go [16:09] :-) [16:16] evening everyone! [16:16] i just read "fosdem" in the backlog so i thought i'd say hi and let you know that i'll be there [16:17] hey ochosi, happy new year! [16:17] oh and ofc happy new year to everyone ;) [16:17] ochosi, great, some of us are going to be there as well [16:17] ochosi, I hope with manage to cross each others, fosdem tends to be busy with people :-) [16:18] yeah, absolutely [16:18] Hey sorry I thought it was at 5:30 [16:18] hey ochosi [16:18] And I went to the supermarket [16:18] looking forward to seeing you there ;-) [16:19] seb128: ^^^ [16:19] Laney: yeah, i still remember where you were sitting last year at the delirium cafe, so in case you're going to sit there again i know how to find you ;) [16:19] oh the absinthe table [16:20] that is the place to be [16:20] indeed! :) [16:22] hey andyrock, no worry :-) [16:22] andyrock, do you know if Trevinho is supposed to be back? [16:22] can you guys give me a number of Canonical people for FOSDEM so I can request an EVT since Will's still languishing on vacation? [16:22] this seems a bit internal... [16:23] indeed [16:24] Laney, going to miss didrocks there this year :-( [16:24] :( [16:24] don't remind me [16:25] sorry [16:25] but plenty of other nice people to drink with [16:25] * Laney will hire an impersonator to run around the desktop room [16:25] until Dider joins us again in another year [16:25] hehe [16:27] seb128: i was online few hours ago [16:28] andyrock, who is speaking? :-) [16:37] seb128: *he [16:37] ahaha [16:38] how is telegram sending me notifications on my laptop when it isn't open in the browser? [16:38] can the web do this? :-o [16:39] I don't see how it could [16:39] the desktop client might if it has a service? [16:39] might be able to install some background thing [16:39] don't have any client installed [16:40] didrocks probably knows :-) [16:40] but sounds weird to me [16:40] what webbrowser are you using? [16:40] firefox [16:41] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Push_API [16:41] that thing? [16:46] could be I guess [17:35] Laney, seb128 I'll be about an hour late starting tomorrow. [17:37] flexiondotorg, ok, no problem [17:37] * Laney nods flexiondotorg [17:38] flexiondotorg, you speaking is reminding you that I wanted to talk to you about your snaps using the framework after the meeting [17:38] flexiondotorg, but that can wait another day no worry [17:38] seb128, OK then :-) [17:38] So far, no big issues encountered. [17:38] MATE has some additional deps. [17:39] ANd I think MATE Team will make the MATE platform snap at some point. [17:41] k [17:41] as said before holidays it's a bit of a non obvious choice [17:41] we could either bundle small useful libs [17:41] or declare that they are not useful to that many snaps and easy to build/bundle by those who need it [17:55] * Laney deflates [17:56] * Laney feels not that useful today [17:56] I should do some uploads tomorrow [17:56] they make me feel better [17:59] * seb128 cheers Laney up, you manage to deal with that emails backlog, which is good for a first day back :-) [17:59] maanged [17:59] managed [17:59] (grrr) [17:59] on that note I'm calling it a day [17:59] thanks seb128! [17:59] have a nice evening desktopers! [17:59] happy evening to you [17:59] thanks, to you too! [17:59] * Laney is going to fill a bag with fluid [18:00] * Laney wonders whether to cycle [18:00] laters [18:01] bye! [18:01] don't overdo it, also depends of if it's raining [18:01] Night all. [18:01] night === Spydar007 is now known as Guest70417