[06:01] <hikiko> hi
[06:02] <hikiko> happy new year !
[06:03] <duflu> Happy new year, hikiko
[06:40] <hikiko> same to you duflu :-)
[07:02] <pitti> Good morning, and happy new year everyone!
[07:52] <duflu> Morning and happy new year pitti
[07:57] <pitti> hey duflu, good morning and happy new year!
[09:02] <Laney> OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:05] <flexiondotorg> Good morning and happy new year desktopers :-)
[09:09] <pitti> hey Laney, hey flexiondotorg, happy new year! had some nice holidays?
[09:11] <Laney> hey pitti! ahoy flexiondotorg!
[09:12] <Laney> pitti: very good thanks! we went to the seaside (Brighton), then visited two lots of family and were up in the countryside in Yorkshire for the new year
[09:12] <Laney> after being 14° on Christmas Day it got down to -4° or so over NY
[09:13] <Laney> somebody had a telescope so we did some stargazing
[09:14] <Laney> pitti: what about you?
[09:14] <Laney> did you achieve some mind clearance? :-)
[09:15] <Laney> ready for the mind filling to begin now
[09:24] <pitti> Laney: I had a nice three weeks of holidays too, need to get into the mood of working again :)
[09:25] <pitti> spent the last two weeks in Dresden for meeting family and friends again
[09:25] <seb128> Oh, people in there today, was quite empty yesterday
[09:25] <seb128> happy new year desktopers
[09:25] <seb128> hey Laney pitti flexiondotorg
[09:25] <pitti> bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ?
[09:26] <seb128> pitti, ça va bien ! et toi ?
[09:26] <Laney> hey seb128!
[09:26] <Laney> happy new year to you
[09:26] <Laney> did you have some good holidays?
[09:26] <pitti> j'ai une petite rhume, mais sinon bien, merci !
[09:26] <seb128> holidays were great, quite relaxing
[09:27] <chrisccoulson> hi everyone :)
[09:27] <seb128> was just lacking the winter weather for the first half
[09:27] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson!
[09:27] <Laney> were you in france or nl or both?
[09:28] <flexiondotorg> pitti, Like Laney we've been at the coast. The Lulworth Cove and then Dawlish. Got back last night.
[09:28] <flexiondotorg> Much fun with the whole extended family :-)
[09:29] <seb128> in France from the 19th until new year
[09:29] <flexiondotorg> seb128, Morning :-)
[09:29]  * seb128 wonders if yesterday was a "free" Canonical holiday day
[09:30] <seb128> it was pretty empty and hr had it flagged as an holidays for everyone
[09:30] <Laney> fantastique!
[09:30] <flexiondotorg> It was in the UK. Public Holiday.
[09:30] <Laney> substitute day for new years day
[09:30] <didrocks> happy new year guys! Ah, this channel is active :)
[09:31] <seb128> Laney, right, u.k does that but e.g France doesn't
[09:31] <Laney> yep
[09:31] <flexiondotorg> Happy New Year didrocks!
[09:31] <Laney> I thought about you yesterday :P
[09:31] <seb128> :-)
[09:31] <Laney> hey didrocks
[09:31] <Laney> some good holidays for you too?
[09:31] <didrocks> oh, a pitti is here as well!
[09:31] <didrocks> glückliches neues Jahr
[09:31] <didrocks> :)
[09:32] <didrocks> yeah, holidays were good, the last week a little bit less as both Julie and I got a cold
[09:32] <pitti> didrocks: gesundes Neues auch fuer Dich!
[09:32] <didrocks> (fortunately, I was the only one to get bad fiever)
[09:32]  * Laney was away with a sick person for the last few days too
[09:32] <Laney> wondering whether I will survive
[09:33]  * Laney hugs didrocks (not too close)
[09:33] <pitti> seems I caught a cold at last as well, too many people carrying it already :/
[09:33]  * didrocks hugs Laney with some cautious then :)
[09:33] <didrocks> yeah
[09:33] <didrocks> at least "DONE" and hoping to be protected for a while (still coughing though)
[09:34] <Laney> stay strong!
[09:35] <Laney> ah, new year, new mailbox full of spam from linkedin
[09:35] <didrocks> have to, crazy deadlines for now! ;)
[09:36] <Laney> holidays coming up :)
[09:37] <didrocks> exactly ;-)
[10:35] <chrisccoulson> Who feels like backporting gcc 4.9 to precise and trusty?
[10:37] <seb128> doko? ;-)
[10:39] <chrisccoulson> heh
[12:10] <xnox> chrisccoulson, because firefox?
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> xnox, yep
[12:11] <xnox> chrisccoulson, well, precise is EOL in 3 months.
[12:12] <chrisccoulson> Yeah, I can probably forget about precise
[12:13] <xnox> chrisccoulson, are you gonna ask for rustcc as well?
[12:13] <chrisccoulson> yeah, rust is going to be mandatory early this year. And it's going to require regular updates too
[12:14] <xnox> chrisccoulson, .... i bet there is toolchain-r ppa with 4.9 for trusty. but i don't think anybody will like using out of the archive toolchain to build firefox =/
[13:05] <Laney> strategic error
[13:06]  * Laney has a blood donation appointment booked for tonight
[13:06] <Laney> no climbing /o\
[13:06] <ogra_> meeitng the vampires ?
[13:07] <Laney> weight loss
[14:39] <alexarnaud> happy new year didrocks seb128 pitti  and all :) !
[14:39] <seb128> hey alexarnaud, happy new year!
[14:54] <didrocks> hey alexarnaud, happy new year to you too! :)
[15:11] <Laney> man
[15:11] <Laney> i got a random container of soup out of the freezer for lunch
[15:11] <Laney> turned out to be HUGE
[15:11]  * Laney dies
[15:19] <seb128> you know that you don't have to eat it all, you can keep some for tonight!
[15:20] <Laney> :P
[15:21] <Laney> I put it all into the bowl
[15:21] <Laney> then it was there...
[15:21] <seb128> lol
[15:21] <ogra_> bring some to the blood donation people
[15:21] <Laney> they'll have to get it out of me
[15:21] <Laney> probably have all the right equipment there though
[15:22] <ogra_> heh
[15:24] <Laney> alarm testing guys are here and making lots of noise happen
[15:24]  * Laney gets tinnitus
[15:31] <seb128> k, let's have an easy meeting round, everybody but willcooke and robert_ancell are supposed to be back but the channel has been quiet today so might be good to have that one :-)
[15:31] <seb128> #startmeeting
[15:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan  3 15:31:33 2017 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:31] <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[15:31] <flexiondotorg> o/
[15:32] <Sweet5hark> Happy new year, all!
[15:32] <hikiko> oh no
[15:32] <hikiko> it's tuesday!
[15:32] <seb128> lol, so we have some desktopers back who were hidding
[15:32] <hikiko> I thought it's monday
[15:32] <FJKong> happy new year and first meeting
[15:32] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark, hikiko
[15:32] <hikiko> happy new year!!!
[15:32] <seb128> hey FJKong!
[15:32] <desrt> omgmeeting
[15:32] <seb128> happy new year all :-)
[15:32] <seb128> hey desrt
[15:32] <desrt> hello everyone :D
[15:32] <hikiko> I have no bullets, I was on holidays!!!
[15:32] <desrt> ditto
[15:33] <seb128> hikiko, just woke up? :p
[15:33] <hikiko> like everyone else I guess
[15:33] <hikiko> lol seb128
[15:33] <seb128> hikiko, desrt, read email?
[15:33] <attente> can you believe i haven't seen you guys since last year?
[15:33] <hikiko> hahaha
[15:33]  * Sweet5hark has no bullet, but read seb128s mail ;)
[15:33] <desrt> attente: i saw you this year already :p
[15:33] <attente> ah right :P
[15:33] <seb128> hikiko, I said so in the reminder, probably no status update to share (except for people who were working after the last december meeting and took some notes they want to share)
[15:33] <seb128> lol
[15:33] <hikiko> :)
[15:34] <hikiko> sorry then, I didn't see it :(
[15:34] <seb128> ok, let's have a round, if you have no status update just say some greeting and that you don't have anything else
[15:34] <seb128> #topic andyrock
[15:34] <seb128> andyrock, hey!
[15:34] <seb128> he was around yesterday, not today he seems :p
[15:35] <seb128> next
[15:35] <seb128> #topic attente
[15:35] <seb128> attente, hey :-)
[15:35] <attente> hey seb128!
[15:35] <seb128> attente, don't pretend you are not there, I saw you :p
[15:35] <attente> lol
[15:35] <hikiko> lol
[15:35] <attente> it was a super short week, i think i just followed up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bubblewrap/+bug/1649330
[15:35] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1649330 in bubblewrap (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] bubblewrap unavailable on xenial" [Undecided,New]
[15:36] <attente> happy new year everyone :)
[15:36] <seb128> oh right, that one, I note to have a look this week to see if I can help with it
[15:36] <seb128> thanks attente, happy new year to you too! ;-)
[15:36] <seb128> #topic desrt
[15:36] <seb128> desrt, hey
[15:36] <desrt> hi!
[15:36] <desrt> uh... started working an hour ago after a very long time off :)
[15:37] <desrt> larsu is sleeping in the next room
[15:37] <seb128> k, good luck getting back in work mode!
[15:37] <seb128> nice
[15:37] <desrt> had a good christmas, new years, lots of fun, etc.
[15:37] <seb128> time to make some tea? ;-)
[15:37] <desrt> hope everyone else did too
[15:37] <desrt> we (+mascha) did coffee so far... tea will be soon, i think :)
[15:37] <seb128> I did, and seems like most of us did as well
[15:37] <seb128> thanks desrt!
[15:37] <seb128> #topic dgadomski
[15:38] <seb128> dgadomski, hey, unsure if you are around :-)
[15:38] <dgadomski> happy new year everyone! nothing to share yet this year, just got back today :)
[15:38] <seb128> welcome back and happy news year!
[15:38] <seb128> new
[15:38] <seb128> #topic FJKong
[15:38] <seb128> FJKong, hey
[15:39] <FJKong> not too much to share, just have a meeting with NUDT guys last month
[15:39] <FJKong> have some bugs to update
[15:39] <FJKong> eof
[15:39] <seb128> k, thanks FJKong
[15:39] <seb128> #topic flexiondotorg
[15:39] <seb128> flexiondotorg, hey
[15:39] <flexiondotorg> Happy New Year everyone!
[15:39] <seb128> thanks, to you too :-)
[15:39] <flexiondotorg> · Created snaps for Lightworks and Spotify.
[15:39] <flexiondotorg> · Met with Lightworks product manager.
[15:39] <flexiondotorg> · Video conferences with Spotify and Mail-In-A-Box.
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> · Assisted with bug where snapcraft parts using debs don't recreate symlinks (LP: #1634813)
[15:40] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1634813 in Snapcraft "Symbolic links inside .deb pulled as directories" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1634813
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> · Made some snaps for MATE applications using the GTK3 platform snap.
[15:40] <seb128> oh, nice, how did that go?
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> · Fixes for HexChat snap (upstreamed)
[15:40] <seb128> you can probably tell us after the meeting
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> · Assisted JetBrains product manager who has now started snapping IntelliJ IDEA
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> · Assisted electron-builder developer with adding the final pieces for snap support. electron-builder can now produce snaps.
[15:40] <flexiondotorg> 🎬
[15:40] <seb128> great!
[15:41] <seb128> I saw they had commited support for flatpak but I didn't see there was work ongoing for snap as well
[15:41] <seb128> thanks flexiondotorg!
[15:41] <seb128> #topic happyaron
[15:41] <seb128> happyaron, hey
[15:41] <happyaron> hey
[15:41] <happyaron> 1. opencc SRU to yakkety
[15:41] <happyaron> 2. update network-manager for x, y, z series
[15:41] <happyaron> 3. becomes Debian co-maintainer of network-manager
[15:41] <happyaron> 4. went over ~300 bugs of network-manager and related packages (applet, plugins, wpa, etc)
[15:41] <happyaron> 5. fcitx's low reproduce rate infinite loop fix and SRU (LP: #1652591)
[15:41] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1652591 in fcitx (Ubuntu Yakkety) "[SRU] fcitx 100% CPU usage on rare case" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652591
[15:41] <happyaron> EOF
[15:42] <hikiko> test
[15:42] <seb128> happyaron, oh, well done on becoming the debian n-m co-mainainer ;-)
[15:42] <seb128> hikiko, we can read you :-)
[15:42] <seb128> happyaron, thanks
[15:42] <hikiko> sorry :)
[15:42] <seb128> #topic hikiko
[15:42] <seb128> hikiko, and it's your turn!
[15:42] <hikiko> hey! happy new year everyone! (greeting) well, I was on holidays.. :)
[15:43] <seb128> :-)
[15:43] <seb128> hope you had good holidays!
[15:43] <hikiko> almost, apart from the fact that a plaster from a building fall on my car
[15:43] <hikiko> and the building was our building
[15:43] <seb128> urg
[15:43] <hikiko> everything else was great :)
[15:43] <seb128> nobody got hurt?
[15:43] <hikiko> no fortunately I was inside
[15:44] <seb128> k, good then :-)
[15:44] <seb128> thanks hikiko!
[15:44] <seb128> #topic Laney
[15:44] <seb128> Laney, hey, busy with the alarm guy or back to keyboard? ;-)
[15:44] <Sweet5hark> BEEEPBEEEEP
[15:44] <seb128> he didn't type on the channel for a while so I assume he's busy
[15:44] <seb128> #topic qengho
[15:44] <seb128> qengho, hey
[15:45] <Laney> hi
[15:45] <qengho> Happy new year! I tried not to work, but I needed to educate my 8-year-old son in Quake, so I installed "openarena" package, and then spent a long while debugging what looks like a new (in yakkety!) word-size pointer SEGV. LP: #1653007
[15:45] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1653007 in ioquake3 (Ubuntu) "yakkety ioquake3 SEGV in variable handling code" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1653007
[15:45] <seb128> oh
[15:45] <qengho> He escaped humiliation this time.
[15:45] <Laney> thought we weren't doing a round!
[15:45] <qengho> EOF
[15:45] <seb128> qengho, happy new year!
[15:45] <Laney> sorry qengho
[15:45] <qengho> 'S okay!
[15:45] <qengho> Missed you guys.
[15:45] <seb128> thanks qengho
[15:45] <seb128> #topic Laney
[15:45] <qengho> Happy new year.
[15:46] <Laney> didn't prepare anything, sorry, thought we were skipping
[15:46] <Laney> so I forgot what I did
[15:46] <seb128> Laney, see reminder email ;-) (just doing an easy round in case people had note from decembre and so we get people to get out of the corner and say hey ;-)
[15:46] <Laney> except today I fixed autopkgtest stuff
[15:46] <Laney> armhf got broken
[15:46] <seb128> yeah, I didn't expect updates
[15:46] <Laney> and some requests got lost
[15:46] <Laney> working now
[15:46] <Laney> looking at bugs/merges/etc currently
[15:46] <seb128> thanks Laney!
[15:46] <Laney> weirdly didn't have that much  bug mail
[15:46] <Laney> like 20 unread today
[15:46] <seb128> yeah, same here
[15:47] <seb128> a stack of file-roller bugwatch that updated
[15:47] <seb128> and a few others
[15:47] <seb128> but not a lot
[15:47] <seb128> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:47] <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey, your turn if you are done fixing Laney's alarm ;-)
[15:47] <Sweet5hark> happy new year everyone!
[15:47] <Sweet5hark> not much to share at this point: mail backlog, still coping with signal overload from #33c3 (likely last one that was in Hamburg with some 12.000 people)
[15:47] <Sweet5hark> next: finish the 5.3 beta snap, xenial SRU
[15:47] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, sorry, I somewhat though you said you were done and you didn't, hope I didn't cut you in the middle of typing :-/
[15:48] <seb128> Sweet5hark, happy new year :-)
[15:48] <Laney> nah
[15:48] <seb128> thanks Sweet5hark
[15:48] <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
[15:48] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
[15:48] <tkamppeter> - A happy and driverless 2017 to everyone!
[15:48] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released 1.13.1 and 1.13.2 with many bug fixes and stability improvements, especially for bugs caused by the features added in 1.13.0 and bug found by the testing of driverless printing.
[15:48] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Fixed support for URIs with IPv6 IP addreeses.
[15:48] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Called for testing IPP Everywhere printing in Zesty on the ubuntu-devel mailing list and got some feedback leading to bug fixes.
[15:48] <tkamppeter> - ippusbxd: Called for help on the ubuntu-devel list about network/distro integration of ippusbxd Bonjour-broadcasting the USB printers made a vailable as virtual network printers. Received a lot of help from pitti, stgraber, in the direction of using a dummy network interface with IPv6 ULA IP address. Got it mostly working, at least when cups-browsed auto-generates the print queue.
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - First look into how IPP scanning works, to also get driverless scaning to work, letting a GSoC student make a SANE driver for IPP scanning.
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2017: Working with Aveek Basu from lexmark India to find students. He is looking around at schools in India and sent me a first bunch of CVs.
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:49] <seb128> tkamppeter, happy new year to you as well!
[15:49] <desrt> lol
[15:49] <seb128> I saw from the mailing list that you have been busy during holidays
[15:49] <desrt> 2017: the year of driverless
[15:50] <desrt> if only i could find that ppd file... where did i download it from again?  >:|
[15:50] <seb128> :-)
[15:50] <tkamppeter> Yes, as I got a lot of answers on my call for help concerning the network bits for broadcasting a printer only locally.
[15:50] <tkamppeter> Especially from stgraber but also from pitti.
[15:50] <seb128> tkamppeter, good work, nice to see you got replies on your issues as well
[15:50] <seb128> thanks tkamppeter!
[15:50] <seb128> #topic Trevinho
[15:51] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, happy new year!
[15:51] <seb128> italians are hidding, or late as usual it seems ;-)
[15:51] <seb128> or and I forgot my round
[15:51] <seb128> #topic seb128
[15:52] <desrt> typical french, generalising about italians
[15:52] <seb128> not a lot here, mostly enjoyed the holidays and did catching up on emails, bug reports and snappy work since yesterday
[15:52] <seb128> desrt, true, sorry about that :p
[15:52] <seb128> #topic aob
[15:52] <desrt> :p
[15:52] <seb128> anything else?
[15:53] <desrt> fosdem
[15:53] <desrt> we should get a wrap on that and book tickets asap
[15:53] <desrt> and i don't think it was ever properly announced/asked to the whole team
[15:53] <seb128> right, reading the email it was clear to me that those who have non trivial travel cost should book
[15:54] <seb128> but otherwise we need willcooke for the details
[15:54] <desrt> do we even have an event code yet?
[15:54] <seb128> hotel can wait next week I think
[15:54] <desrt> flights are going to start getting really awful really quickly
[15:54] <seb128> oh, good point
[15:54] <Laney> Just take one of the 3 places and book it
[15:54] <seb128> right
[15:54] <seb128> but the event code is a good point
[15:55] <Laney> nah
[15:55] <seb128> well if she wants to book through the travel agent
[15:55] <desrt> i can't book with the travel agent without an approval
[15:55] <Laney> it's not needed
[15:55] <seb128> otherwise you can book&expense
[15:55] <desrt> and book&expense is ... deprecated
[15:55] <Laney> you don't need an evt, just a req
[15:55] <desrt> huh.  i'll fill that out then
[15:55]  * desrt didn't know it was possible
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> (read some story recently: booking is cheapest ~3 weeks in advance on a sunday apparently)
[15:55] <seb128> well you need an approval no?
[15:55] <Laney> yes but you don't need an evt for that
[15:55] <seb128> k
[15:55] <desrt> thanks
[15:56] <seb128> so yeah, desrt please book the flight tickets at least
[15:56]  * desrt will look into that today
[15:56] <Laney> i'll find out which hotel to use
[15:56] <seb128> Laney, did you end up doing something about the hotel?
[15:56] <Laney> asking atm
[15:56] <seb128> I was going to wait for willcooke to be back for that
[15:56] <seb128> I got my room booked the day before fosdem last year
[15:56] <seb128> so I don't think we need it done this week
[15:57] <Laney> don't think it is necessary
[15:57] <seb128> though it would be better getting that sorted out
[15:57] <Laney> it's easy to get the agent to book it whenever
[15:57] <seb128> right
[15:57] <seb128> k, let's wrap the meeting, we can keep chatting then
[15:57] <seb128> thanks everyone
[15:57] <seb128> #endmeeting
[15:57] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan  3 15:57:34 2017 UTC.
[15:57] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-01-03-15.31.moin.txt
[16:01] <Laney> ok, they don't know which hotel yet
[16:02] <seb128> k
[16:02] <seb128> somebody keeps you update when they do?
[16:02] <seb128> updated
[16:02] <Laney> ye
[16:02] <seb128> good
[16:03]  * desrt forgets (again) where the travel request form is
[16:04] <seb128> desrt, query
[16:04] <desrt> thx
[16:05] <seb128> yw
[16:05] <Laney> I should think you can ping clan to get that approved so you don't have to wait a week
[16:06] <seb128> or ping $manager on telegram
[16:07] <seb128> the price he has to pay for not handling it before holidays!
[16:07] <Laney> he was trying to be fair
[16:08] <seb128> well, he replied saying to sort it out and book flights after most of us were already on holidays
[16:08] <seb128> but yeah maybe not his fault
[16:08] <Laney> had to go up the chain
[16:09] <seb128> he might have been waiting for an ack as well
[16:09] <seb128> right
[16:09] <seb128> not blaming anyone
[16:09] <Laney> :)
[16:09]  * Laney is happy to be able to go
[16:09] <seb128> :-)
[16:16] <ochosi> evening everyone!
[16:16] <ochosi> i just read "fosdem" in the backlog so i thought i'd say hi and let you know that i'll be there
[16:17] <seb128> hey ochosi, happy new year!
[16:17] <ochosi> oh and ofc happy new year to everyone ;)
[16:17] <seb128> ochosi, great, some of us are going to be there as well
[16:17] <seb128> ochosi, I hope with manage to cross each others, fosdem tends to be busy with people :-)
[16:18] <ochosi> yeah, absolutely
[16:18] <andyrock> Hey sorry I thought it was at 5:30
[16:18] <Laney> hey ochosi
[16:18] <andyrock> And I went to the supermarket
[16:18] <Laney> looking forward to seeing you there ;-)
[16:19] <andyrock> seb128: ^^^
[16:19] <ochosi> Laney: yeah, i still remember where you were sitting last year at the delirium cafe, so in case you're going to sit there again i know how to find you ;)
[16:19] <Laney> oh the absinthe table
[16:20] <Laney> that is the place to be
[16:20] <ochosi> indeed! :)
[16:22] <seb128> hey andyrock, no worry :-)
[16:22] <seb128> andyrock, do you know if Trevinho is supposed to be back?
[16:22] <bregma> can you guys give me a number of Canonical people for FOSDEM so I can request an EVT since Will's still languishing on vacation?
[16:22] <Laney> this seems a bit internal...
[16:23] <seb128> indeed
[16:24] <seb128> Laney, going to miss didrocks there this year :-(
[16:24] <Laney> :(
[16:24] <Laney> don't remind me
[16:25] <seb128> sorry
[16:25] <seb128> but plenty of other nice people to drink with
[16:25]  * Laney will hire an impersonator to run around the desktop room
[16:25] <seb128> until Dider joins us again in another year
[16:25] <seb128> hehe
[16:27] <andyrock> seb128: i was online few hours ago
[16:28] <seb128> andyrock, who is speaking? :-)
[16:37] <andyrock> seb128: *he
[16:37] <andyrock> ahaha
[16:38] <Laney> how is telegram sending me notifications on my laptop when it isn't open in the browser?
[16:38] <Laney> can the web do this? :-o
[16:39] <seb128> I don't see how it could
[16:39] <seb128> the desktop client might if it has a service?
[16:39] <Laney> might be able to install some background thing
[16:39] <Laney> don't have any client installed
[16:40] <seb128> didrocks probably knows :-)
[16:40] <seb128> but sounds weird to me
[16:40] <seb128> what webbrowser are you using?
[16:40] <Laney> firefox
[16:41] <Laney> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Push_API
[16:41] <Laney> that thing?
[16:46] <seb128> could be I guess
[17:35] <flexiondotorg> Laney, seb128 I'll be about an hour late starting tomorrow.
[17:37] <seb128> flexiondotorg, ok, no problem
[17:37]  * Laney nods flexiondotorg 
[17:38] <seb128> flexiondotorg, you speaking is reminding you that I wanted to talk to you about your snaps using the framework after the meeting
[17:38] <seb128> flexiondotorg, but that can wait another day no worry
[17:38] <flexiondotorg> seb128, OK then :-)
[17:38] <flexiondotorg> So far, no big issues encountered.
[17:38] <flexiondotorg> MATE has some additional deps.
[17:39] <flexiondotorg> ANd I think MATE Team will make the MATE platform snap at some point.
[17:41] <seb128> k
[17:41] <seb128> as said before holidays it's a bit of a non obvious choice
[17:41] <seb128> we could either bundle small useful libs
[17:41] <seb128> or declare that they are not useful to that many snaps and easy to build/bundle by those who need it
[17:55]  * Laney deflates
[17:56]  * Laney feels not that useful today
[17:56] <Laney> I should do some uploads tomorrow
[17:56] <Laney> they make me feel better
[17:59]  * seb128 cheers Laney up, you manage to deal with that emails backlog, which is good for a first day back :-)
[17:59] <seb128> maanged
[17:59] <seb128> managed
[17:59] <seb128> (grrr)
[17:59] <seb128> on that note I'm calling it a day
[17:59] <Laney> thanks seb128!
[17:59] <seb128> have a nice evening desktopers!
[17:59] <Laney> happy evening to you
[17:59] <seb128> thanks, to you too!
[17:59]  * Laney is going to fill a bag with fluid
[18:00]  * Laney wonders whether to cycle
[18:00] <Laney> laters
[18:01] <seb128> bye!
[18:01] <seb128> don't overdo it, also depends of if it's raining
[18:01] <flexiondotorg> Night all.
[18:01] <seb128> night