[02:25] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [greybird] r489 Make switches rounder and smaller (fixes #169)... (by Simon Steinbeiß)
[14:01] <ochosi> flocculant: youll soon have more stuff to test (settings for the log are slowly getting ready)
[16:14] <ochosi> flocculant: ok, i have added several options for logging now and rebased my branch upon master, so no additional - already fixed - issues should appear. so anything you notice there should also affect master and would be report-worthy
[16:14] <ochosi> flocculant: here's the link to the branch if you find the time for some testing: https://git.xfce.org/users/ochosi/xfce4-notifyd/log/?h=logging_rebased
[16:15] <ochosi> flocculant: you should also be able to mute clementine and decide whether you want to log its notifications or not ;)
[16:43] <flocculant> ochosi: okey doke
[16:47] <flocculant> ochosi: fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported: /users/ochosi/xfce4-notifyd/log/?h=logging_rebased
[16:48] <ochosi> that's what the browser says..?
[16:49] <flocculant> that's what terminal does when I git clone it 
[16:49] <ochosi> if you're in your terminal then just go to the 'ol git directory and do a "git pull; git checkout logging_rebased"
[16:49] <flocculant> oh right ok :)
[16:50] <ochosi> and then possibly run a "make distclean" before "./autogen.sh && make && sudo make install && killall xfce4-notifyd" all over again
[16:51] <flocculant> ta - doing that now - then will undo all my stop this thing notifying changes :p
[16:55] <flocculant> ochosi: so this version should scroll in settings-manager?
[16:55]  * flocculant thinks more about changing nick to the_grinch
[17:00] <flocculant> ochosi: bit confused here - but also just got in from work ... you around for a bit later on?
[17:06] <ochosi> if the scrolling works for you on master it should work in this branch as well
[17:06] <ochosi> sure, i'll be around a little later as well
[17:06] <ochosi> will head out for a bit though
[17:15] <ochosi> anyway, just ping me when you need help, otherwise just click through the options and lemme know whether they make sense to you
[17:15] <ochosi> i'm also happy about feedback regarding the wording from native speakers
[17:17] <flocculant> ochosi: ack - still doing the just got in stuff - will look in a while and ping you :)
[17:52] <ochosi> knome: so i just finished the log options for notifyd (just to let you know)
[17:53] <ochosi> http://i.imgur.com/LtGWRY8.png
[17:53] <ochosi> http://i.imgur.com/D9CoaWP.png
[17:53] <ochosi> even implemented your suggestion of dynamically updating the infobar label with the logging state ;)
[17:53] <knome> mhm ;)
[17:53] <knome> looks good to me
[17:55] <ochosi> yeah, the "Do not disturb" label is still a bit odd
[17:55] <ochosi> but it's the best i could come up with so far
[17:56] <knome> i guess
[17:56] <knome> yep
[17:56] <knome> ok, going to do other things
[17:56] <knome> bbl
[17:56] <ochosi> sure, hf, me too in fact :)
[17:56] <knome> yup, hf too
[18:36] <flocculant> ochosi: this version still won't scroll in Settings Manager (zesty)
[18:37] <flocculant> and when we were talking the other day about options - there appears to be one missing - eg have notifications but not logged
[18:37] <flocculant> or is that just not possible? 
[18:37]  * flocculant sort of envisages something like http://i.imgur.com/zpDF4o3.jpg 
[18:38] <flocculant> for example clementine notifies to desktop - but doesn't fill the log with hours worth of track names :)
[19:36] <ochosi> flocculant: initially i thought of adding another row in the applications tab but then it felt like total overkill, you know, it's also a burden to the user having to handle so many switches/options
[19:37] <flocculant> yea understood
[19:37] <flocculant> anyway - seems to work - except scrolling in s-m
[19:38] <ochosi> so in this sense the "mute" option is reused for the log
[19:38] <flocculant> doesn't *work* for me with what I'd want - but that's something else entirely :)
[19:38] <flocculant> imagine wanting to see notifications from media - but not wanting it logged 
[19:39] <ochosi> in fact that's a problem of media players tbh
[19:39] <ochosi> the freedesktop.org notification standard (and pretty much all of its practical implementarions in DEs) has a "transient" property that nobody seems to use
[19:40] <ochosi> if clementine would mark its notifications as transient, they would never be logged (i implemented that)
[19:40] <flocculant> oh right
[19:40] <ochosi> the whole "persistence" feature - which is what the log is in the end - is described that way
[19:40] <ochosi> that's another reason - apart from the settings overkill - why i didn't want to re-implement something that was already there
[19:41] <ochosi> hopefully disappointed users (like yourself ;)) will report bugs to media player devs
[19:41] <flocculant> ok - I did think perhaps it was an unlikely thing :)
[19:41] <ochosi> nah, i totally get the use-case
[19:41] <ochosi> i also need to still implement the transient feature in xfce4-volumed
[19:41] <flocculant> yea of course - wish I could patch that and send it to them - more likely to occur 
[19:41] <ochosi> cause really: why would you want to log audio volume changes...
[19:41] <ochosi> that should be easy though
[19:42] <ochosi> it's just an additional bit to set on the notification
[19:42] <ochosi> so a one-liner, most likely
[19:42] <ochosi> but first i need to release that darn thing, otherwise you have no good grounds for arguing ;)
[19:42] <flocculant> mmh - easy for you perhaps I have trouble with a shebang :D
[19:42] <ochosi> so more testing and fixing
[19:42] <flocculant> ha ha ha yea ofc :p
[19:42] <ochosi> sure, if you point me to the source i can take a look later, but first notifyd
[19:43] <flocculant> ochosi: ok - that'll be a deal :p
[19:43] <ochosi> btw, also thanks for the mockup :) that's totally awesome
[19:43] <ochosi> really made clear what you meant
[19:43] <ochosi> ppl should draw more
[19:43] <flocculant> welcome - sometimes it's so much easier :D
[19:43] <flocculant> so - for me only issue I can see is the scrolling
[19:44] <flocculant> I've got it set up in a vm too - I will double check there a bit later tonight
[19:45] <ochosi> ok, i'll double-check too
[19:46] <ochosi> crap, so it still works for me
[19:46] <ochosi> must be zesty
[19:46] <ochosi> or can you reproduce in yak as well?
[19:46] <flocculant> \o/
[19:47] <flocculant> I did try in yak - not reproducing there for me
[19:47] <flocculant> and by \o/ I mean at least it's zesty and not flocculant's frankenstein install ;)
[19:47] <flocculant> ochosi: I'll boot the vm now 
[19:48] <ochosi> hehe
[19:48] <ochosi> yeah, if it's zesty it could be some problem with gtk3.22
[19:48] <ochosi> cause i presume that's what zesty has
[19:48] <flocculant> 3.22.5
[19:49] <ochosi> yeah, so that may be it
[19:50] <ochosi> ideally it'll just be a small setting somewhere
[19:55] <flocculant> yup
[20:02] <flocculant> grrrr
[20:03] <flocculant> does parole not work in this ?
[20:05] <flocculant> oh nvm - it caught up :)
[20:06] <flocculant> ochosi: ok definitely not working on a vanilla zesty
[20:06] <flocculant> rebooting to yak
[20:15] <flocculant> ochosi: ok - so not sure what's up here then - this is a pretty much vanilla yak install, scrolling with mouse in notifications works - notifications from settings manager - not working
[20:16] <flocculant> guess I didn't look properly the other day
[20:17] <flocculant> when I say scroll - I mean up and down with the mouse wheel - not grabbing the bar and moving it up and down 
[21:07] <ochosi> flocculant: yeah, i subscribe to the same basic concept of "scrolling", but it works for me...
[21:14] <flocculant> just thought I would make completely sure we're on the same page there ;)
[21:15] <flocculant> not sure what to say then tbh - doesn't work on yak for me in s-m
[21:20] <flocculant> only other thing is perhaps you have more up to date other stuff than a default install would have - perhaps 
[21:40] <slickymaster> knome, pleia2, there's a typo in the http://xubuntu.org/news/integrating-releases-website/ page
[21:41] <slickymaster> "documentation" in the second paragraph of the Release Pages section
[21:41] <slickymaster> actually, currently it's "documentaion" :P
[21:42] <slickymaster> fixed and updated
[21:44]  * flocculant wanders off again
[21:44] <knome> slickymaster, :P
[21:44] <slickymaster> hf flocculant 
[21:45] <slickymaster> hi knome :P
[21:45] <knome> hello
[21:45] <knome> anyway, you like the integration?
[21:45] <slickymaster> yes
[21:45] <knome> good
[21:46] <slickymaster> it's really a one-stop shop for all our supported release
[21:46] <knome> unsupported too
[21:47] <slickymaster> yes
[21:48] <slickymaster> and I suppose that in maintenance terms it's much better knome 
[21:51] <knome> way better
[21:51] <knome> all download lists are now created dynamically from one list of mirrors
[21:52] <slickymaster> hm hm
[22:02] <knome> what? :P
[22:15] <slickymaster> just agreeing with your reply, knome 
[22:27] <knome> aha :P
[23:04] <ochosi> bluesabre: hey there! wanna help out with your threading power/experience on this one? https://git.xfce.org/users/ochosi/xfce4-notifyd/tree/xfce4-notifyd-config/main.c?h=logging_rebased#n486
[23:14] <ochosi> (unless it's just g_thread_new())