seb128good morning Laney!09:07
seb128how are you?09:07
Laneyhey seb12809:09
Laneynot too bad thanks09:09
Laneyalmost got under 5 minutes on the donation yesterday09:09
Laneynext time!09:09
Laneywhat about you?09:09
seb128I'm good thanks09:09
seb128though I already miss the holidays morning extra-sleeping09:10
Laneynot long until next christmas :-)09:14
seb128yeah, and this year is good for holidays, most of our national days are on fridays and there is only one that end up being on a saturday (and none on sundays)09:16
flexiondotorgMorning Laney seb12809:26
flexiondotorgI'm back from the gym, just need to freshen up.09:27
seb128hey flexiondotorg09:34
xnoxtedg, looking at src:url-dispatcher does that work under systemd at all?10:49
xnoxi see that it tries to query things with upstart....10:49
xnoxsil2100, could you review and approve https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/unity-scope-click/systemd/+merge/313713 ? =) or is that bypassing the processes....10:55
xnoxseb128, can you please make me the assignee of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-y-replace-upstart and target it to zesty somehow?10:57
sil2100xnox: hey! Let me take a look, but I'm not a click scope developer ;p11:05
xnoxsil2100, i'm not sure anybody  is.... =)11:09
xnoxit's not scope related per se, just systemd session job, in addition to the upstart session job.11:10
sil2100Yeah, see it, I guess I might be able to review that ;)11:14
xnoxsil2100, nope, there should not have ever been either dependencies on upstart or systemd. it's integration with a running session, if present, but doesn't require it.11:27
xnoxe.g. one should be able to install these packages in a chroot and execute binaries without any sessions at all.11:27
sil2100xnox: ACK11:27
sil2100xnox: top approved in that case11:27
* sil2100 wonders why there was an upstart dep in the first place there11:28
xnoxsil2100, on the other hand, i have added upstart dependency to unity8-desktop-session and ubuntu-touch-sessions as those do explicitely exec "upstart --user" to kick off the sessions.11:28
xnoxbecause, i'm dropping the deps everywhere else.11:28
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chrisccoulsonoh, I'm not the only person who requires rust then https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2017-January/msg00001.html \o/12:14
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ricotzchrisccoulson, hi12:23
ricotzsee pm12:23
chrisccoulsonricotz, replied12:24
chrisccoulsonhappy new year :)12:24
ricotzchrisccoulson, I got the impression that rust in firefox is still optional12:24
chrisccoulsonricotz, it's not going to be optional for long12:25
ricotzchrisccoulson, I mean "--disable-rust" is still a thing12:25
chrisccoulsonricotz, yeah, the plan is for it to be mandatory early this year though. That option isn't going to be around for very long12:26
ricotzI see, starting with 53 or 54?12:27
chrisccoulsonPossibly 5312:28
seb128chrisccoulson, lol, we can easily hold on that update though ;-)12:39
seb128xnox, blueprint assigned to you and re-targetted12:39
flocculantwelcome back all you desktoppers :)12:43
flexiondotorgflocculant, o/12:43
seb128hey flocculant, thanks12:44
flocculanthope you all had good break :)12:45
chrisccoulsonseb128, thanks ;)12:45
tedgxnox: Not that I know of, we need to get U8 moved over first me thinks.14:05
b4nandyrock: had you a chance to look further at making keybinding for some plugin work also in case of grabs? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1653072)14:48
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1653072 in Compiz "Make accessibility shortcuts usable in all context" [Undecided,New]14:48
b4nif not, I'll give it a try14:48
b4nhey :)14:50
andyrockI m working on it14:50
b4nawesome :)14:50
Hallo32Hi, are there any improvements for the network manager in 16.10?15:16
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seb128k, calling it a day17:17
seb128it was quiet here today!17:17
seb128have a nice evening desktopers, see you tomorrow17:17
Laneynight seb12817:17
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andyrockb4n: you here?18:53
b4nnot really, but fire away18:53
andyrockso if I have a menu open here and I type super+alt+s to activate the screen reader18:54
andyrockit does not work18:54
andyrockto my knowledge there is nothing special with this keybinding18:54
andyrockat least in unity18:55
b4nsorry, super+alt+s is managed by what?18:55
andyrockby the shell, the settings-deamon register it to the current shell using the key grabber dbus-api18:55
andyrockso it can be unity, gnome-shell, metacity, etc...18:56
b4nok, so it's kinda expected it doesn't work I guess18:56
b4n2s, lemme see one thing18:56
andyrocklet me try on a different shell18:58
b4nyeah ok indeed it doesn't18:58
andyrockbut it works on the lockscreen (at least in unity)18:58
andyrockthat because we allow it and have the full control18:58
andyrocklet me try on a different shell18:58
b4ngnome-shell also works on the lock screen18:59
b4nI believe the report was about MATE's18:59
b4nbut in any case you're right, it doesn't work when menus are open18:59
b4nOTOH, orca's own keybindings do work19:00
andyrockbut I can try to use XI2 directly19:01
b4nyeah, as said I believe it's what Mumble use, and it works inside grabs19:01
b4ndid you try your idea of using at-spi API?19:02
andyrockafter a look at the API i don't think that's what they're meant for19:07
andyrockwe use XI2 inside unity because we have the control on the main loop and on the x11 events19:08
andyrocknot sure we can do that inside a plugin19:08
andyrockbut I'll try19:08
b4nnah at-spi's API isn't really meant for that I guess19:09
b4nokay, thanks19:10
jcastrotedg: the theme looks so much nicer in the --edge inkscape20:07
tedgjcastro: Yeah, GTK3 is better :-)21:10
tedgjcastro: I'm excited to finally drop GTK2 in Inkscape.21:11

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