zmoylan-pi | because your 1tb usb flash drive just isn't big enough... https://liliputing.com/2017/01/kingston-launches-2tb-usb-flash-drive.html | 00:31 |
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daftykins | oof | 00:32 |
daftykins | those things are enabling such craziness :> | 00:33 |
zmoylan-pi | perfect for emergency cat videos when zombie apocalypse happens... | 00:39 |
daftykins | that's true | 00:39 |
daftykins | i put in another 2 Pis today as yet more music streamers for my clients place | 00:40 |
zmoylan-pi | but you'll have to order it and fill it before trump is sworn in... :-p | 00:40 |
daftykins | can't sniff at £40 per node when you've already got a stereo there! | 00:40 |
zmoylan-pi | the pi's are a truly remarkable industry changing piece of tech | 00:40 |
daftykins | actually lets remote in and tweak their settings whilst i remember their IPs | 00:41 |
daftykins | lucky they're not home else i could start blaring music in their bedroom 8D | 00:43 |
diddledan | I'm wondering if raspi are gonna do a birthday version bump again this year | 00:45 |
zmoylan-pi | play a subliminal mp3 at low volume in bedroom 'give daftykins a nice bonus...' :-P | 00:46 |
daftykins | :D | 00:46 |
zmoylan-pi | would be a great drive to bring to work in on first day at nsa and a pro snowden bumper sticker... | 00:57 |
ali1234 | i just installed mythtv-ackend on a raspberry pi | 01:15 |
ali1234 | i dont think it is going to be fast enough | 01:15 |
daftykins | newp :> | 01:16 |
ali1234 | i should probably just switch to tvheadend or something | 01:17 |
daftykins | i know it'd make a lot of folk happy if a future Pi did HEVC 10-bit decode :> | 01:19 |
ali1234 | mysql is the killer apparently | 01:20 |
ali1234 | its using 25% CPU just idling | 01:21 |
daftykins | how's that dire net connection of yours? any improvement over the last while? | 01:21 |
ali1234 | no, its still the same as ever | 01:21 |
daftykins | :< | 01:22 |
daftykins | can't wait until i can go do the work at a clients, he put all his sockets on the same incoming line - so i bought a proper NTE5a off ebay for £11 including a built in filter module - gonna make it the proper master and then slave the rest | 01:23 |
daftykins | doubled his connection speed last time i visited :D | 01:23 |
ali1234 | yeah just dont tell BT | 01:24 |
daftykins | well, they don't exist over here but yeah, no DMC modding :D | 01:24 |
ali1234 | and get the proper punch down tool | 01:24 |
ali1234 | dont buy the plastic ones they are useless | 01:25 |
daftykins | yeah i have owned a Krone IDC for many a moon | 01:25 |
daftykins | gotta do those patch panels! | 01:25 |
daftykins | i've often wondered if they'd take a Krone away from you on flights, 'cause i needed to do stuff in Spain before now | 01:25 |
ali1234 | i doubt it | 01:26 |
ali1234 | but they only cost like £2 | 01:26 |
daftykins | mmm more the trouble of sourcing one down there | 01:39 |
RockyRoad | Hello ............ | 03:55 |
brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:26 |
SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | 07:36 |
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JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Trivia Day! 😃 | 09:03 |
SuperMatt | morning all | 09:19 |
knightwise | morning foobarry | 09:32 |
knightwise | hey SuperMatt | 09:32 |
* knightwise just ordered a rasp pi II | 09:32 | |
knightwise | III | 09:32 |
foobarry | my internet is uppy downy today | 09:35 |
foobarry | and i'm at work :( | 09:35 |
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popey | scan order for cheap video card cancelled... | 10:07 |
knightwise | Put my pihole back in operation , scary to see how much of my traffic is ad related | 10:07 |
knightwise | good morning popey | 10:07 |
foobarry | have scan gone titsup? | 10:08 |
popey | no | 10:08 |
popey | they had an oopsie on amazon, a high end video card for 10 quid | 10:08 |
zmoylan-pi | but the suspiciously cheap card is not been sent... bad popey! :-P | 10:08 |
popey | Azelphur ordered like 30 of them | 10:09 |
awilkins | Possibly Controversial Opinion : StrongSwan is a complete PITA and not a good choice of VPN client | 12:31 |
awilkins | Upside : they have a great attitude to security, they are an active project, etc | 12:32 |
awilkins | Downside : They let their attitude to security get in the way of being actually able to use their software for it's intended purpose | 12:32 |
awilkins | AFAIK StrongSwan is the only VPN client that does IKEv1 for current Debian / Ubuntu that integrates with network manager | 12:33 |
awilkins | Sadly, you can't actually *use* it for IKEv1 via network manager | 12:33 |
awilkins | AFAICT there is NO VPN client that does IKEv1 + XAUTH that integrates with NM at the moment | 12:34 |
awilkins | Which is a shame because it's the go-to VPN config for most of the places I've worked | 12:34 |
awilkins | I get it, it's rubbish and old therefore we shouldn't be promoting it's use | 12:34 |
awilkins | You do that by making it hard to set up as a server, not by making it virtually impossible to use as a client | 12:35 |
awilkins | That just makes it hard to use Ubuntu as a workstation in a business that uses that flavour of VPN | 12:35 |
awilkins | StrongSwan even has opinions about the strength of PSK that's permissible - AFAICT if your PSK is less than 20 chars, it refuses to work because of their low opinion of the security level of that. Well, I can't tell my sysadmin to change the common PSK for 200 users just because StrongSwan says so.... | 12:37 |
awilkins | And if you install the "strongswan" package so you can attempt to configure and run it from files / command line, it conflicts with ike / ike-qtgui (the Shrew Soft VPN client) which is rude and annoying and doesn't integrate with NM ... but does have the advantage of working for at least *some* of the IKEv1 / PSK / XAUTH connections I use. | 12:42 |
awilkins | (by "no VPN client" I mean, no VPN client that you can get from the main package repo) | 12:43 |
foobarry | https://learntemail.sam.today/blog/my-watch-runs-gnu-linux-and-it-is-amazing/ | 13:05 |
foobarry | never wanted a smart watch until now | 13:05 |
zmoylan-pi | had me right up till they ran systemd :-P | 13:06 |
Rixon | Hi there, I have a system on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS with php5 installed. I've just added Ondřej Surý's PPA to get the php5.6 package and was just about to install it with apt-get when I suddenly realised I'd better ask in here: do I need to remove php5 first or will the package manager deal with that for me? | 13:17 |
diddledan | Rixon: I believe it'll upgrade in-place fine | 13:19 |
Rixon | diddledan: excellent thank you =) | 13:20 |
Rixon | ah, apt-get just told me: "0 to upgrade, 9 to newly install, 0 to remove and 234 not to upgrade." | 13:22 |
Rixon | apparently they can both be installed and run alongside eachother, but apache/nginx/whatever will need configuration files to point at /etc/php/5.6/... rather than /etc/php5/... | 13:22 |
foobarry | my wife put some of my usb sticks thru the washing machine cycle | 13:33 |
diddledan | soggy sticks! | 13:34 |
SuperMatt | It's to wash all the filth out of them | 13:34 |
SuperMatt | she knows where you store your gentlemens' special interest movies | 13:34 |
diddledan | ;-) | 13:34 |
foobarry | metal detecting? | 13:35 |
foobarry | airfix models? | 13:35 |
SuperMatt | I thought they were documentaries on the history of manhole covers | 13:35 |
foobarry | thats jez corbyn | 13:36 |
SuperMatt | You're right! | 13:38 |
diddledan | this is beautiful https://youtu.be/HD2zrF3I_II | 14:29 |
diddledan | I wonder if my nephew will ask me what the last century was like when he's a little older | 15:28 |
diddledan | I'll have to tell him it was all fuzzy because VHS had poor bandwidth | 15:28 |
diddledan | and then he'll ask my dad (his grandad) what it was like before that and he'll get the answer that it was black and white | 15:29 |
diddledan | I really need to build that pikea gaming table for him soon | 15:29 |
foobarry | my son seems confused about which generations had electricity | 15:57 |
foobarry | i think he's pretty much got it: bible times: no things except animals and diseases, victorian times: some things and diseases, modern times: all the things, different diseases | 15:59 |
daftykins | more intelligent diseases! | 15:59 |
daftykins | and misuse of medical advances | 15:59 |
* diddledan probes daftykins | 16:00 | |
daftykins | oh and aliens! | 16:01 |
diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYXZV8CcnQU | 16:03 |
foobarry | shame lubotu doesn't tell us the youtube titles like other chans | 16:04 |
daftykins | would definitely reduce the need to click ;) | 16:05 |
diddledan | but that ruins the fun of me posting random links! | 16:05 |
Azelphur | Weird statement of the day: I just bought a GTX 1080 for my home server. | 16:48 |
diddledan | wat | 16:51 |
diddledan | o_O | 16:51 |
Azelphur | diddledan: it's headless too | 16:51 |
diddledan | you're weird :-D | 16:51 |
diddledan | hehe | 16:52 |
Azelphur | lol | 16:52 |
Azelphur | diddledan: got a VM on there, passing the GPU through, I call it my Game Client Server \o/ | 16:52 |
diddledan | aha | 16:52 |
diddledan | so it kinda is and isn't headless at the same time | 16:52 |
Azelphur | indeed | 16:53 |
diddledan | it's an ambiguous server | 16:53 |
Azelphur | indeed, and it's a server that runs clients. | 16:53 |
diddledan | we need to make that an industry term now | 16:53 |
Azelphur | haha | 16:53 |
diddledan | and we need a test to find out how ambiguous your server is and whether that is ambiguous enough to classify as an ambiguous server | 16:54 |
diddledan | our applications are web-scale ambiguous | 16:54 |
diddledan | we also have a fleet of containers running micro-ambiguous services | 16:55 |
Azelphur | haha | 16:58 |
diddledan | we also have a big-ambiguity data lake. | 16:59 |
diddledan | we're all-in on the ambiguous paradigm that we no-longer run normal systems | 17:00 |
diddledan | our cost savings are 80% compared to normal cloud computing | 17:01 |
diddledan | we have 110% velocity and our KPIs and ROI are improving YoY | 17:02 |
diddledan | anyone got to buzzword bingo yet? | 17:02 |
diddledan | our ambiguous synergies are streamlined and unified | 17:03 |
Azelphur | haha | 17:03 |
Azelphur | gotta love buzzword bingo :) | 17:03 |
diddledan | :-) | 17:03 |
diddledan | especially when it involves shots | 17:04 |
Azelphur | hehe | 17:06 |
Azelphur | finally got to play elite dangerous today though, loving it | 17:06 |
Azelphur | can't wait to go tri screen elite dangerous | 17:06 |
diddledan | get an oculous | 17:08 |
diddledan | oculus | 17:08 |
Azelphur | diddledan: been tempted for a while, already spent quite a bit recently | 17:16 |
Azelphur | although Bitcoin is definitely making me a happy panda financially atm | 17:16 |
diddledan | did your 30 orders for the scan bargain get cancelled? my single one did but I'm unsure whether that was 'cos my bank account ran out of monies :-p | 17:17 |
Azelphur | yea they all got cancelled | 17:17 |
diddledan | aah | 17:17 |
diddledan | ok | 17:17 |
diddledan | shame :-( | 17:17 |
diddledan | but I understand their reasons | 17:18 |
Azelphur | indeed, I bought them just figuring it was a punt | 17:18 |
diddledan | yup | 17:18 |
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daftykins | Azelphur: i hope you're not like my spending mates, living from pay packet to pay packet :P | 18:11 |
daftykins | 'cause that's one nuts purchase right there! | 18:11 |
Azelphur | daftykins: nah, I work as a programmer so get paid reasonably w ell | 18:11 |
Azelphur | but also, have you seen the Bitcoin market recently? loving it :) | 18:11 |
daftykins | nope still glad to stay away from that experiment | 18:11 |
Azelphur | heh, I'm glad I got in | 18:12 |
zmoylan-pi | store your bitcoin on an 8" floppy for maximum security :-P | 18:12 |
daftykins | doesn't really matter what some mates are paid though, it's the way they spend it that's pretty cringeworthy :) | 18:13 |
Azelphur | haha | 18:13 |
Azelphur | daftykins: I'm a weirdo, I pretty much only by tech | 18:14 |
daftykins | same | 18:14 |
daftykins | although now i'm gonna be paying out for home maintenance since this shower of mine has been leaking through the floor below :/ | 18:14 |
daftykins | fun and games | 18:14 |
Azelphur | I have a house full of kit, my 2 bed apartment has a 58" 4k TV, 4 x 40" 4k monitors, along with another 3 19" monitors, I have a PC, my home server, my 3 laptops, built a PC for my gf too, etc | 18:15 |
Azelphur | Yet, I sit here wearing a shirt that I've had for 10+ years with missing buttons and odd socks. | 18:15 |
Azelphur | but, that's me lol | 18:15 |
zmoylan-pi | that's easy to sort, go out and buy a dozen pairs of socks of one colour and a dozen pairs of another. then you have socks for years with next to no hunting for socks | 18:16 |
Azelphur | yea, I have been tempted to just get rid of all my socks and start again with only one set of socks. | 18:17 |
daftykins | yeah but you buy all those super cheap deals of no-name brand crap right? ;) | 18:17 |
daftykins | so it could all pop tomorrow and you'd have no recourse? :> | 18:18 |
Azelphur | that's true too technology wise | 18:18 |
Azelphur | TV is a hisense, monitors are AMH korean imports | 18:18 |
daftykins | might want to check the ol' insurance coverage | 18:18 |
Azelphur | daftykins: but, that said, I made reasonable estimations when I make purchases | 18:18 |
Azelphur | for example, with the Korean monitors, I looked up the name brand, UK versions | 18:18 |
Azelphur | and worked out I could have one fail, replace it out of pocket, and have it still be cheaper | 18:19 |
daftykins | think that'd depend on the specs for me | 18:20 |
daftykins | fair bit more than just pixel count to a 4K display | 18:20 |
Azelphur | daftykins: they are really nice LG Panels, 4:4:4 chroma, have a wide array of inputs, even supports 4 inputs simultaniously with picture in picture | 18:21 |
Azelphur | iirc they are LG panels anyway, the only downside to them is they have a little b it of shadowing at the bottom of the display | 18:21 |
Azelphur | and one of my 4 developed an entire row of dead pixels :< | 18:21 |
daftykins | heh | 18:22 |
daftykins | yeah wouldn't be worth the hassle of dealing with a return on that sort of thing | 18:22 |
zmoylan-pi | that call to a korean support centre must have been fun... :-P | 18:23 |
Azelphur | I did actually try and return it, eBay seller just ignored me lol | 18:23 |
Azelphur | but yea, wasn't expecting to be able to return it | 18:23 |
zmoylan-pi | 'press 2 to have godzilla attack the supplier' | 18:28 |
awilkins | Maximum security for bitcoin is print an encrypted copy of your wallet key on paper then put it in a safety deposit box | 18:43 |
awilkins | Then delete the electronic copies | 18:43 |
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zmoylan-pi | think of the possabilities... it could display the score of a match you've recorded to watch later... :-P http://www.computerworld.com/article/3153953/security/ransomware-arrives-on-smart-tvs.html | 21:11 |
zmoylan-pi | drop the audio when the closed captions revel the name of the murderer... | 21:11 |
daftykins | i saw that one | 21:19 |
daftykins | the guy employed the new "moan at a company via twitter" to get a favourable response technique | 21:19 |
zmoylan-pi | helps make the company stop ignoring you | 21:21 |
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