[04:14] <Guest56329> hello
[04:15] <Guest56329> Xubuntu is great, but I have a small question about its install
[04:16] <Guest56329> I had ReactOS (basically a free version of Windows server 2003) on the computer but Xubuntu didnt recognize it as an already installed OS during its own install
[04:17] <Guest56329> any reason why this would be? it should recognise it as windows or something similar
[07:24] <LinuxNovice> hello, anybody here?
[07:28] <bazhang> what is the issue LinuxNovice
[07:29] <LinuxNovice> hi, is Xubuntu 16.10 as stable as 16.04? Contemplating installing it on my new laptop.
[07:31] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, only you can judge that , as everyone has different hardware
[07:32] <bazhang> try a live usb of both, and decide for yourself LinuxNovice
[07:32] <LinuxNovice> ok. If I go for 16.10 will upgrading it any newer version be cumbersome?
[07:32] <bazhang> read the various ubuntuforums, askubuntu and so on for views on this
[07:33] <LinuxNovice> your views on this?
[07:33] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, why would you imagine it to be cumbersome
[07:33] <LinuxNovice> don't know. Just a newbie, here.
[07:34] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, I think you have some confusion on using support channels, and polling people's opinions in the offtopic chat rooms
[07:34] <bazhang> in this case #xubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <LinuxNovice> ok. what are the realistic system requirements for Xubuntu 16.10? I mean, for it to be fast, responsive and snappy.
[07:35] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, tell us your ideas of fast responsive and snappy, as well as your full system specs
[07:36] <LinuxNovice> now, I am using an old laptop. runs on Celeron M single core 1.6 Ghz cpu and 2 gb ram.
[07:36] <LinuxNovice> Using Lubuntu 16.04 now.
[07:37] <bazhang> then the fast responsiveness and snappiness will go in one direction from there
[07:37] <LinuxNovice> what does that mean?
[07:37] <bazhang> which direction?
[07:38] <bazhang> lubuntu is the very lightest
[07:38] <bazhang> using something heavier means
[07:38] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[07:39] <bazhang> you can install xubuntu-desktop package, then select in the login window
[07:39] <bazhang> same with ubuntu, kubuntu, and so on
[07:39] <LinuxNovice> it means Xubuntu is not suitable for this laptop?
[07:39] <LinuxNovice> ok. I can try that.
[07:40] <bazhang> that way, you yourself can be the judge of what is and what is not suitable for you, your laptop, and your own personal needs
[07:40] <bazhang> no one can else can know that but you
[07:40] <LinuxNovice> ok. why Ubuntu differentiates between LTS and the regular versions?
[07:41] <LinuxNovice> is there going to be any significant difference?
[07:41] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, have you read of the very basic ubuntu help guides at all
[07:41] <LinuxNovice> I have. But, need some help in making the decision.
[07:42] <bazhang> lts or not is not about making a decision, it's about having read the very basic wiki and help pages to know what that means
[07:43] <LinuxNovice> is the regular version something similar to debian testing in debian. While LTS comparable to Debian stable.
[07:43] <LinuxNovice> ?
[07:43] <bazhang> no
[07:43] <LinuxNovice> ok. both have the same level of stability?
[07:43] <bazhang> I will link you to the very basic help guides
[07:43] <bazhang> please read them in full
[07:43] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[07:44] <bazhang> !manual | LinuxNovice
[07:44] <bazhang> !rute | LinuxNovice
[07:44] <bazhang> there are many many links there for you read and follow LinuxNovice
[07:45] <LinuxNovice> thanks a lot, guys.
[07:46] <LinuxNovice> just one more question. Is 16.10 suitable for linux beginners?
[07:47] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, is today your first day of use, or how long
[07:47] <LinuxNovice> no. have been using 16.04 for a couple of weeks. Less than a month old in Linux.
[07:48] <bazhang> LinuxNovice, that depends on your own learning ability, willingness to read the most basic of guides
[07:48] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[11:03] <xubuntu68i> hey, do you guys think installing xubuntu "extras" with a mobile hotspot is very costly to my service?
[11:04] <xubuntu68i> like im not gonna spend 2g of data by doing this right?
[11:05] <xubuntu68i> my schools wi-fi is crap,
[11:06] <knome> not 2g, but it's not a tiny pakage either
[11:08] <xubuntu68i> cool, my phone's saying that ive spent 106mb already
[11:17] <xubuntu33i> ive come here from mint, do you guys think xubuntu is more of a good, full, not-amaturish looking OS?
[11:18] <xubuntu33i> i guess ill find out when im done with this install but srl what do you guys?
[11:19] <knome> you are asking the xubuntu channel... what do you think the answer will be?
[11:19] <knome> anyway, to be exact, whichever you feel is better depends on you only...
[11:20] <xubuntu33i> ok.. thanks then
[11:36] <StayaSinic> maybe he is troll
[12:17] <arnaldo_> Salve come posso installare ettercap su xubuntu 12.04....mi da errore libnet1 non si puo installare
[13:06] <pirx> hello! i just installed xubuntu. have found and edited a few keyboard shortcuts. but how can i see in which workspace i am? there is no info-window when i switch between workspaces
[13:17] <jon_> hello. i am having a problem with screen flickering on my xubuntu. I searched the usual forums for solutions but didn't find any. Does someone have 5 or 10min time to look at it with me?
[13:46] <jon_> i am sorry but does someone know a way how to check if the screen flickering is a hardware problem or a software problem without having to install an other system on it?
[13:46] <flux242> jon_: what version have you installed?
[13:47] <flux242> 16.04 lts?
[13:47] <jon_> ubuntu 16.04.1
[13:47] <jon_> yes
[13:47] <flux242> jon_: upgrade to 16.10
[13:47] <jon_> ok ty
[13:47] <knome> flux242, how would that fix flickering?
[13:47] <flux242> new kernel version
[13:48] <knome> jon_, there's unfortunately no way to know what is causing the flickering... where is it occurring?
[13:48] <jon_> it flickers and some time it logs out that is why i thought it might be a hardware problem
[13:48] <knome> flux242, usually that doesn't help though
[13:48] <flux242> knome: it helped me
[13:48] <knome> jon_, is this related to the login screen as you mention logging out?
[13:49] <flux242> jon_: you have intel graphics right?
[13:49] <jon_> yes
[13:49] <flux242> just upgrade then
[13:49] <jon_> all the screen becomes black for less then a second
[13:49] <jon_> ok i'll try that
[13:50] <jon_> knome no but sometimes the screen flickers a bit longer and it logs me out
[13:50] <knome> okay... that makes me think it's not hardware, but who knows... i haven't seen that issue
[13:51] <flux242> jon_: or you may use a kernel version up  from 4.8
[13:51] <jon_> ok thank you
[13:55] <jakub_> hi
[14:57] <pirx> anything i need to do to get a bluetooth headset working in xubuntu? i can pair with the headset, but it fails to connect... (bluetoothd: a2dp-sink profile connect failed for ...: protocal not available)
[15:16] <Justanick> Hi, are there any improvements for the network manager in 16.10?
[15:39] <xubuntu38w> where do i find a bootable cd for any linux for an old computer
[15:41] <knome> none of the xubuntu releases that fit on a CD are supported any more, you'll likely want to look for something else
[15:41] <xubuntu38w> what about a dvd
[15:42] <knome> the recent xubuntu releases will fit on a DVD
[15:42] <knome> what kind of hardware do you have?
[15:42] <xubuntu38w> i cannot use the recent releases i nee dolder version and bootable not iso
[15:43] <knome> ISOs will create a bootable DVD
[15:43] <xubuntu38w> 'they dont for me
[15:43] <knome> then you are likely doing it wrong, or your PC can't boot from the optical drive
[15:43] <genii> What is this, some 486?
[15:44] <xubuntu38w> yes i can i put linux 8.04 on there
[15:44] <knome> please tell us what kind of hardware you have so we can assist you
[15:45] <xubuntu38w> it is a cd/dvd recorder dont kknow what type
[15:45] <knome> how much RAM does the computer have?
[15:45] <xubuntu38w> 512mb
[15:45] <knome> then i'd probably look at something else than xubuntu
[15:46] <xubuntu38w> what about lubuntu
[15:47] <knome> you should probably consult the lubuntu channel on the specifics of that - it should be able to run at least, but whether it's usable or not is a different thing
[15:47] <xubuntu38w> i cannot find any thing on that and 16 10 ran real slow
[15:48] <knome> in that case you'll want to look at something even smaller
[15:48] <flux242> do you need a de?
[15:48] <flux242> just use command line then
[15:49] <xubuntu38w> i cant get the download to work on tht 8.04
[15:49] <xubuntu38w> what kind of installer do i need on that
[15:50] <knome> please don't use any 8.04 release, they are all out of support a long time ago
[15:50] <knome> or if you insist on doing that, then acknowledge there will be no support at all
[15:50] <genii> xubuntu38w: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[15:50] <xubuntu38w> well i would use something else if i could find anything with a bootable dvd
[15:50] <knome> and fwiw, all ubuntu releases are distributed by ISOs
[15:51] <knome> even the 8.04 releases
[15:51] <xubuntu38w> i got that and a 13.10 bootable and couldnt find anything else
[15:52] <knome> how are you creating your discss then?
[15:53] <xubuntu38w> with cdburnerxp
[15:54] <genii> xubuntu38w: On that page are links to the current minimal images. I'd suggest Xenial 16.04, and probably 32bit x86
[15:55] <xubuntu38w> on the minimal istall url
[16:31] <xubuntu38w> it doesnt work either
[17:24] <lyze> Hello! Is there a way to exclude some specific windows from alt+lmb dragging without completely turning off the feature?
[17:26] <knome> i don't think so, without modifying the window manager code
[17:27] <lyze> Ah thats a bummer x3 Thanks anyway!