[04:14] hello [04:15] Xubuntu is great, but I have a small question about its install [04:16] I had ReactOS (basically a free version of Windows server 2003) on the computer but Xubuntu didnt recognize it as an already installed OS during its own install [04:17] any reason why this would be? it should recognise it as windows or something similar [07:24] hello, anybody here? [07:28] what is the issue LinuxNovice [07:29] hi, is Xubuntu 16.10 as stable as 16.04? Contemplating installing it on my new laptop. [07:31] LinuxNovice, only you can judge that , as everyone has different hardware [07:32] try a live usb of both, and decide for yourself LinuxNovice [07:32] ok. If I go for 16.10 will upgrading it any newer version be cumbersome? [07:32] read the various ubuntuforums, askubuntu and so on for views on this [07:33] your views on this? [07:33] LinuxNovice, why would you imagine it to be cumbersome [07:33] don't know. Just a newbie, here. [07:34] LinuxNovice, I think you have some confusion on using support channels, and polling people's opinions in the offtopic chat rooms [07:34] in this case #xubuntu-offtopic [07:34] ok. what are the realistic system requirements for Xubuntu 16.10? I mean, for it to be fast, responsive and snappy. [07:35] LinuxNovice, tell us your ideas of fast responsive and snappy, as well as your full system specs [07:36] now, I am using an old laptop. runs on Celeron M single core 1.6 Ghz cpu and 2 gb ram. [07:36] Using Lubuntu 16.04 now. [07:37] then the fast responsiveness and snappiness will go in one direction from there [07:37] what does that mean? [07:37] which direction? [07:38] lubuntu is the very lightest [07:38] using something heavier means [07:38] ok. [07:39] you can install xubuntu-desktop package, then select in the login window [07:39] same with ubuntu, kubuntu, and so on [07:39] it means Xubuntu is not suitable for this laptop? [07:39] ok. I can try that. [07:40] that way, you yourself can be the judge of what is and what is not suitable for you, your laptop, and your own personal needs [07:40] no one can else can know that but you [07:40] ok. why Ubuntu differentiates between LTS and the regular versions? [07:41] is there going to be any significant difference? [07:41] LinuxNovice, have you read of the very basic ubuntu help guides at all [07:41] I have. But, need some help in making the decision. [07:42] lts or not is not about making a decision, it's about having read the very basic wiki and help pages to know what that means [07:43] is the regular version something similar to debian testing in debian. While LTS comparable to Debian stable. [07:43] ? [07:43] no [07:43] ok. both have the same level of stability? [07:43] I will link you to the very basic help guides [07:43] please read them in full [07:43] ok. [07:44] !manual | LinuxNovice [07:44] LinuxNovice: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [07:44] !rute | LinuxNovice [07:44] LinuxNovice: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/95-799/rute.pdf [07:44] there are many many links there for you read and follow LinuxNovice [07:45] thanks a lot, guys. [07:46] just one more question. Is 16.10 suitable for linux beginners? [07:47] LinuxNovice, is today your first day of use, or how long [07:47] no. have been using 16.04 for a couple of weeks. Less than a month old in Linux. [07:48] LinuxNovice, that depends on your own learning ability, willingness to read the most basic of guides [07:48] ok. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [11:03] hey, do you guys think installing xubuntu "extras" with a mobile hotspot is very costly to my service? [11:04] like im not gonna spend 2g of data by doing this right? [11:05] my schools wi-fi is crap, [11:06] not 2g, but it's not a tiny pakage either [11:08] cool, my phone's saying that ive spent 106mb already [11:17] ive come here from mint, do you guys think xubuntu is more of a good, full, not-amaturish looking OS? [11:18] i guess ill find out when im done with this install but srl what do you guys? [11:19] you are asking the xubuntu channel... what do you think the answer will be? [11:19] anyway, to be exact, whichever you feel is better depends on you only... [11:20] ok.. thanks then [11:36] maybe he is troll [12:17] Salve come posso installare ettercap su xubuntu 12.04....mi da errore libnet1 non si puo installare [13:06] hello! i just installed xubuntu. have found and edited a few keyboard shortcuts. but how can i see in which workspace i am? there is no info-window when i switch between workspaces [13:17] hello. i am having a problem with screen flickering on my xubuntu. I searched the usual forums for solutions but didn't find any. Does someone have 5 or 10min time to look at it with me? [13:46] i am sorry but does someone know a way how to check if the screen flickering is a hardware problem or a software problem without having to install an other system on it? [13:46] jon_: what version have you installed? [13:47] 16.04 lts? [13:47] ubuntu 16.04.1 [13:47] yes [13:47] jon_: upgrade to 16.10 [13:47] ok ty [13:47] flux242, how would that fix flickering? [13:47] new kernel version [13:48] jon_, there's unfortunately no way to know what is causing the flickering... where is it occurring? [13:48] it flickers and some time it logs out that is why i thought it might be a hardware problem [13:48] flux242, usually that doesn't help though [13:48] knome: it helped me [13:48] jon_, is this related to the login screen as you mention logging out? [13:49] jon_: you have intel graphics right? [13:49] yes [13:49] just upgrade then [13:49] all the screen becomes black for less then a second [13:49] ok i'll try that [13:50] knome no but sometimes the screen flickers a bit longer and it logs me out [13:50] okay... that makes me think it's not hardware, but who knows... i haven't seen that issue [13:51] jon_: or you may use a kernel version up from 4.8 [13:51] ok thank you [13:55] hi [14:57] anything i need to do to get a bluetooth headset working in xubuntu? i can pair with the headset, but it fails to connect... (bluetoothd: a2dp-sink profile connect failed for ...: protocal not available) [15:16] Hi, are there any improvements for the network manager in 16.10? [15:39] where do i find a bootable cd for any linux for an old computer [15:41] none of the xubuntu releases that fit on a CD are supported any more, you'll likely want to look for something else [15:41] what about a dvd [15:42] the recent xubuntu releases will fit on a DVD [15:42] what kind of hardware do you have? [15:42] i cannot use the recent releases i nee dolder version and bootable not iso [15:43] ISOs will create a bootable DVD [15:43] 'they dont for me [15:43] then you are likely doing it wrong, or your PC can't boot from the optical drive [15:43] What is this, some 486? [15:44] yes i can i put linux 8.04 on there [15:44] please tell us what kind of hardware you have so we can assist you [15:45] it is a cd/dvd recorder dont kknow what type [15:45] how much RAM does the computer have? [15:45] 512mb [15:45] then i'd probably look at something else than xubuntu [15:46] what about lubuntu [15:47] you should probably consult the lubuntu channel on the specifics of that - it should be able to run at least, but whether it's usable or not is a different thing [15:47] i cannot find any thing on that and 16 10 ran real slow [15:48] in that case you'll want to look at something even smaller [15:48] do you need a de? [15:48] just use command line then [15:49] i cant get the download to work on tht 8.04 [15:49] what kind of installer do i need on that [15:50] please don't use any 8.04 release, they are all out of support a long time ago [15:50] or if you insist on doing that, then acknowledge there will be no support at all [15:50] xubuntu38w: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall [15:50] well i would use something else if i could find anything with a bootable dvd [15:50] and fwiw, all ubuntu releases are distributed by ISOs [15:51] even the 8.04 releases [15:51] i got that and a 13.10 bootable and couldnt find anything else [15:52] how are you creating your discss then? [15:53] with cdburnerxp [15:54] xubuntu38w: On that page are links to the current minimal images. I'd suggest Xenial 16.04, and probably 32bit x86 [15:55] on the minimal istall url [16:31] it doesnt work either [17:24] Hello! Is there a way to exclude some specific windows from alt+lmb dragging without completely turning off the feature? [17:26] i don't think so, without modifying the window manager code [17:27] Ah thats a bummer x3 Thanks anyway! === Justanick1 is now known as Justanick === Justanick1 is now known as Justanick === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang