[05:00] <altimax> hello
[05:01] <Tuxit> Hi.
[07:22] <plaked> hola alguien que hable español y me pueda ayudar?
[08:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:49] <yossarianuk> well done for getting plasma 5.8.x into the ppa !
[11:01] <xibir> is it save to use the backport ppa on LTS version?
[11:07] <soee> xibir: i would say it is recommended
[11:07] <soee> LTS backports contains now also Plasma 5.8 LTS
[11:10] <xibir> soee: okay i missed that information thanks :)
[11:10] <soee> :)
[11:40] <yossarianuk> with kde distros really you want the latest plasma, etc as you will generally have a more stable experience...
[11:41] <yossarianuk> plus added features
[11:41] <yossarianuk> plasma 5.8.x is far better than the plasma version shipped in kubuntu 16.04/16.10 - lots of bugs fixed (i.e multi monitor)
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hi alll
[12:48] <mozammel> BluesKaj: Hello
[12:48] <Necy> man. kde looks so much better than gnome
[12:49] <Necy> next reinstall will be kubuntu fosho
[12:49] <Necy> i love gnome, but kde .. another level
[12:50] <mozammel_> Necy: true. KDE Plasma is really so good.
[12:51] <Necy> normally i hate reinstalling, but now im looking forwrd to it so much
[12:55] <BluesKaj> hi mozammel_
[13:00] <soee> http://i.imgur.com/EE2ybYe.png
[13:29] <xibir> soee: I'm quite new to KDE so... what kind of black magic is this?
[13:30] <soee> xibir: it just shows new feature of incoming Plasma 5.9 - widgets explorer inside application dashboard
[13:37] <xibir> I thought this were actually implemented. looks interesting
[14:12] <don> hi evreyone
[14:20] <aniketh__> Ping
[14:21] <aniketh__> My primary display is not coming correctly.
[14:21] <aniketh__> while connecting it VGA
[14:21] <aniketh__> I'm on Kubuntu 16.10
[14:22] <hateball> aniketh__: What GPU/driver ?
[14:22] <hateball> aniketh__: And define "not correctly"
[14:22] <aniketh__> nvidia
[14:23] <aniketh__> hateball:  It's like when removing the VGA connection my laptop screen goes black. But when I connect the connector the display works but no nav bar.
[14:25] <hateball> aniketh__: are you using kubuntu backports?
[14:26] <aniketh__> hateball:  backports for plasma ?
[14:27] <hateball> aniketh__: yes
[14:28] <hateball> If you're not: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:28] <aniketh__> No I guess. Not sure.
[14:28] <hateball> as multimonitor is less broken in 5.8.x
[14:29] <aniketh__> hateball: Will that crash or somewhat ?
[14:30] <aniketh__> It rather stable right ?
[14:32] <aniketh__> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tBFlHYUR/
[14:32] <aniketh__> Got this error code
[14:35] <hateball> hmmm
[14:36] <hateball> aniketh__: yes I am running it myself
[14:36] <aniketh__> hateball: okay cool :)
[14:36] <aniketh__> hateball: But see that error. What to do about it ?
[14:37] <hateball> aniketh__: I... dont really know. Because it does exist
[14:37] <aniketh__> oh that's sad :(
[14:37] <hateball> aniketh__: can always add the sources manually
[14:37] <hateball> but it should just work
[14:37] <hateball> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[14:38] <hateball> I wonder if acheronuk is around
[14:38] <hateball> He would know, perhaps
[14:39] <soee> aniketh__: install Plasma 5.8 first :)
[14:39] <soee> than pleasecheck if you have any problems with screen
[14:39] <hateball> soee: that's what I'm trying to help them with
[14:39] <hateball> but see their error
[14:40] <BluesKaj> staging-plasma and frameworks ppas are available, but my 16.10 is not very stable on plasma 5.8.5
[14:40] <soee> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:41] <soee> aniketh__: ^
[14:41] <BluesKaj> crash notices
[14:43] <acheronuk> yep. no '~' required
[14:43] <luca> !list
[14:43] <hateball> I had no ~ in the line I gave them
[14:43] <aniketh__> soee: Let me try that command
[14:43] <hateball> hmmm
[14:43] <hateball> aniketh__: so you're not copy pasting what I typed?
[14:44] <aniketh__> hateball:  did the copy paste itself :D
[14:44] <aniketh__> both not working
[14:45] <aniketh__> again the same error
[14:46] <soee> why do you have ~kubuntu-ppa not kubuntu-ppa
[14:48] <aniketh__> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:49] <aniketh__> soee: I did thus
[14:49] <aniketh__> this.
[14:49] <acheronuk> aniketh__: are you connect to a network OK?
[14:49] <aniketh__> acheronuk: ofcourse yeah :)
[14:50] <acheronuk> that error usually indicates it can't reach launchpad for some reason
[14:50] <soee> aniketh__: pastebin output of: lsb_release -a
[14:51] <AceKing> I have an external hub for my drives. If I mount, and umount one drive, and put another one in, I keep getting "An error occurred while accessing '688.3 GiB Encrypted Drive', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error creating mount point `/media/martok/750GB Backup': Input/output error"
[14:52] <aniketh__> soee: Wait. It's working :)
[14:52] <AceKing> If I restart my PC, I can mount the drive. But if I unmount it, and try mounting another, the same thing happens.
[14:54] <aniketh__> soee: After full upgrade. what should I do ?
[14:55] <soee> relogin or reboot
[14:56] <aniketh__> thats it ? Will that solve the monitor issue ?
[14:56] <soee> try
[14:57] <aniketh__> Actually this was the first time I was experiencing something like that issue with the monitors
[14:57] <aniketh__> full upgrade on process
[14:58] <soee> ;)
[14:59] <BluesKaj> usually after upgrading packages with a development ppa it should be removed from the package manager sources, aniketh__
[15:05] <soee> BluesKaj: he uses backport
[15:18] <mgolden_> AceKing: Does it work with other drives?
[15:26] <yossarianuk> hi - by default Plasma/cups seems to automatically detect printers on my network - is there a wayh to stop that ?
[15:29] <yossarianuk> I still want to access network printers just not install automatically.
[15:29] <yossarianuk> (as its auto installing incorrectly and is not working - when I manually add its fine)
[15:30] <yossarianuk> is it just a matter of disabling cups-browser ?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> soee, the backports ppa not just the kubuntu backports
[16:30] <ose> Hey, I just updated my laptop to 16.10 and have some wifi problems. I can use internet over cable fine. iwconfig shows an interface, but there is no wifi symbol in the notification area
[16:30] <ose> any hints?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> does ifconfig show a wifi controller
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ose,^
[16:40] <hazamonzo> Howdy BluesKaj
[16:41] <ose> BluesKaj: it shows one named wlp1s0 which I assume is that
[16:43] <BluesKaj> hi hazamonzo
[16:43] <ose> https://paste.kde.org/pigqp0ycs
[16:44] <ose> found something to try, but that involves rebooting, so I'll be offline some minutes
[16:44] <yossarianuk> is there anyone here who has used inotify to watch a directory and move files to another?
[16:45] <yossarianuk> I'm having an issue with subfolders
[16:45] <BluesKaj> yes ose that's most likely it..run the driver manager in system settings to see if the recommended wifi driver shows, if so choose it and wait for it to install
[16:48] <BluesKaj> oops , missed that
[16:49] <hazamonzo> Any OBS fans here. I was able o install it fine yesterday and record a video via the OBS-studio tool. Today it looks like OBS starts okay on the commandline but the obs-studio UI fails to start
[16:50] <hazamonzo> Checked the logs and can't see any errors
[17:53] <ose> okay so on a live USB with 16.10 the network manager is present at least
[17:55] <ose> I'm just going to get my important files backed up again and do a clean install
[17:55] <soee> :)
[17:55] <soee> what was wrong before ?
[17:57] <ose> updated from 16.04 to 16.10 and got problems with network manager, as well as problems with the DE "hanging" which just made debugging the network issue a pain
[18:03] <soee> ose: did you installed backports ?
[19:17] <Necy> i press minimise in plasma
[19:17] <Necy> where do the windows go?
[19:19] <Necy> they just vanish
[19:21] <Necy> and is the kubuntu iso from the website plasma?
[19:21] <soee> minimize or show desktop ?
[19:22] <Necy> minimise
[19:22] <soee> "show desktop" effect makes windows to outside visible area but you can see part of them in screen corners
[19:22] <soee> minimize just minimize them
[19:24] <Necy> it seems i must have done something to the panel
[19:24] <Necy> they are not showing up in the panel anymore
[19:25] <soee> oh?
[19:25] <soee> maybe you removed task manager widget
[19:25] <soee> it displays active apps
[19:26] <Necy> this takes a little getting used to
[19:26] <Necy> so much customization
[19:26] <soee> :D
[19:27] <soee> i'm using pretty standard setup http://i.imgur.com/SKOxuXr.jpg
[19:28] <soee> with 4 activities, application dashboard instead of kicker (menu), 2 custom action on screen corners
[19:29] <Necy> where is themes located?
[19:29] <Necy> i had it earlier
[19:30] <Necy> (this is in a vm atm)
[19:31] <soee> System Settings -> Workspace Theme
[19:32] <soee> press ALT + F2 and type in in krunner 'Syst' and it will shouw you and entry to click
[19:35] <Necy> gnome does what it does, but this is so much more modern
[19:36] <Necy> makes windows look crap
[19:37] <Necy> the file manager and the terminal at the bottom :-o awssome!
[20:01] <soee> :)
[20:12] <user|96611> hello everyone i have any question about kubuntu and nicotine(the soft) someone could answer me?
[20:19] <Necy> ive booted into kubuntu iso, it shows a desktop but no installer
[20:20] <acheronuk> Necy there should be an installer launcher icon op left
[20:21] <Necy> im just seeing a black wallpaper, no icons
[20:22] <Necy> nvm , i found one in the menu bar
[20:22] <Necy> - and install
[20:22] <Necy> an*
[20:22] <acheronuk> Necy: that was the next thing I was going to suggest
[20:23] <acheronuk> though something is amiss with plasma startup on your hardware if you have black wallpaper
[20:23] <acheronuk> hopefully it won't interfere with install
[20:23] <Necy> its in a virtual machine
[20:23] <Necy> maybe thats why
[20:24] <Necy> what exactly is LVM?
[20:26] <Necy> ah, nvm
[20:30] <acheronuk> Some VM software can be a bit flakey wwith plasma start as well. On Virtaul box I occasionally get an iso live session not start. but restarting the VM often sorts it
 that happened to me too
[20:41] <Necy> also, kde seems to run alot better with kubuntu oposed to kubuntu desktop installed on an ubuntu gnome vm
[20:42] <acheronuk> Not sure why that should be, but hey :)
[20:43] <Necy> hey man
[20:44] <acheronuk> maybe some stuff like gnome setting daemon, tracker indexing, zeitgiest etc, still tries to start up in the background
[20:45] <acheronuk> dunno. It's a loooong time since I used gnome
[20:47] <Necy> the dark theme also doesnt work with libre writer
[20:47] <Necy> you cant see the bar at the top
[20:48] <Necy> it has a funny gradient
[20:49] <Necy> when you hover over the panel and it brings up the icon it looks really lo res too
[20:52] <acheronuk> AFAIK that is a bug with Qt/KDE interface of libreoffice, which they are fixing in the next release of that
[20:53] <Necy> they will probably replace the lo res icon with an application preview?
[20:53] <Necy> seems strange to have the icon twice
[20:58] <acheronuk> I tend to uninstall libreoffice-kde and install libreoffice-gtk2 or libreoffice-gtk3
[20:59] <acheronuk> not ideal, but until libreoffice fix their Qt frontend, it's reasonable
[21:01] <Necy> i dont understand why i add some widgets to the desktop (the network and a few others) and it only shows an icon
[21:06] <Necy> does discover have the same software as software (software center) in gnome?
[21:06] <Necy> i cant find atom in there
[21:21] <Necy> does discover have different software?
[21:29] <[Relic]> what atom?
[21:31] <Necy> yea. and i cant seem to find discs as well
[21:32] <Pici> discs?
[21:32] <Necy> the program to manage your hard drives on ubuntu
[21:33] <Necy> - not in the software center but installed
[21:35] <Pici> The software center has packages, and the disk management tool is likely part of a suite of tools or goes by a different name than you are used to.. also I'm not sure if all software is actually reported by the software center, it used to be that many command-line and server stuff would not show up.
[21:35] <Pici> (I'm more of a server person, I actually don't use Kubuntu at all)
[21:36] <[Relic]> I always use apt to install the muon package manager and don't use discover
[23:19] <rafa> hello