[02:00] <diddledan> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/01/04/rumors-of-cmds-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/
[02:00] <diddledan> they don't mention that Windows itself cannot boot if cmd's infrastructure was removed
[02:02] <zmoylan-pi> they've said that since 90s
[02:17] <zmoylan-pi> they even tried to push that you couldn't remove internet explorer from windows
[02:33] <diddledan> watching an episode of "person of interest" the ai has calculated a chance of survival of 2.7% but still selected that option rather than carry-on calculating further scenarios
[03:59] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/find_evil/status/816846566799470593
[05:37] <diddledan> lasers solve everything: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38510344
[09:38] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Bird Day! 🐦
[09:41] <foobarry> happy bird day to you?
[09:59] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:59] <SuperMat1> good day
[10:05] <brobostigon> hi
[10:06] <foobarry> https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10542519
[10:06] <foobarry> troll score 8/10
[10:09] <evildespot> You'd need a leading close quote, Shirley
[10:10] <foobarry> obviously the result of a drunken pub convo over xmas
[10:11] <evildespot> involving the word "hilarious"
[10:43] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: The owner was explaining the prank on Reddit a few days ago
[10:45] <TwistedLucidity> Another example http://i.imgur.com/00ir7fQ.png
[10:46] <evildespot> That one would actually work (assuming injection of unescaped user input)
[10:48] <TwistedLucidity> Here is the thread https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/5l47yy/someone_registered_drop_table_companies_ltd_in/dbsumjs/
[11:00] <foobarry> does anyone use smokeping? running it from a docker container and not sure how to increase the freuqnecy
[11:05] <foobarry> ah, think i've got it
[11:06] <foobarry> when there's no vim/nano/emacs on the dock so you have the use sed to edit a file :(
[11:21] <evildespot> At the risk of causing an argument (with which I will not engage :) ) a Docker container for something you can trivially apt-get install with virtually no dependencies may be a bit heavyweight
[11:30] <foobarry> not true, smokeping installs a web server
[11:31] <foobarry> since it creates rrdtool type graphs etc
[11:36] <evildespot> it only Recommends that, IIRC
[11:36] <foobarry> thats how i want to use it, so a container is perfect
[11:36] <foobarry> also, containers for everything!
[11:36] <evildespot> as you wish
[11:36] <evildespot> but then you need to learn how to edit files in containers without expecting your favourite editor to be in the container
[11:37] <evildespot> because that's not how containers (are supposed to) work
[12:52] <foobarry> that depends
[13:00] <Gargoyle> Anyone got any thoughts on why my Chrome no longer opens links from other apps (Doesn't seem to matter which app). Chrome launches or opens a new window, but the address bar is just blank.
[13:01] <foobarry> rebooted or killed backgruond chrome processes?
[13:01] <Gargoyle> Yeah. It's been doing this for a few weeks now.
[13:03] <Gargoyle> This is the tail of syslog while clicking a link in slack. https://gist.github.com/gargoyle/d033dbae04b9b1442c171bcacf4d5d6a
[13:04] <foobarry> http://askubuntu.com/questions/689449/external-links-are-opened-as-blank-tabs-in-new-browser-window-in-chrome
[13:04] <foobarry> ?
[13:05] <Gargoyle> If only I could just click that link! :P
[13:07] <Gargoyle> Sweet, it worked. Nice find. Thanks
[13:07] <foobarry> yay
[13:07] <Gargoyle> Seems something to do with trying to add Google Hangouts changed the entries in there.
[14:13] <foobarry> i have a markdown file than when exported to html, looks wonderful in the browser, but when exported to PDF, looks like a page printed from netscape in 1996, big text, etc
[14:14] <foobarry> how do i get it to print or pdf a bit more nicely?
[14:15] <foobarry> the html has a single centralised column that looks nicer
[14:23] <foobarry> oh, pandoc does it nicely
[14:43] <diddledan> frak
[14:44] <diddledan> turkey has had another attack
[14:44] <diddledan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-38517847
[14:45] <TwistedLucidity> That's arrests over the New Year attack, no?
[14:45] <foobarry> yes. unless diddledan has been in a man cave
[14:46] <diddledan> I really feel for the Turkish population because they're a country divided between east and west so they have the west's progressive society combined with the push-back from the extremists who reside in the east
[14:47] <diddledan> sorry the BBC tweeted the wrong link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38521549
[14:47] <TwistedLucidity> Erdogan also appears to be a bit of a nutter
[14:48] <diddledan> well there is that
[15:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[15:09] <TwistedLucidity> 'lo
[15:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> TwistedLucidity, hi
[15:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> how do I change the file system of a USB stick, using a UBuntu Live ?
[15:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or how do I cut a big video file into smaller parts
[15:10] <TwistedLucidity> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68809/how-to-format-a-usb-or-external-drive#69129
[15:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> TwistedLucidity, yeah got big video files that are over 4GB
[15:11] <TwistedLucidity> Unless it's FAT32, it's have thought it would be fine
[15:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> so doesn't really work pr9perlly trying to put that on fat
[15:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> TwistedLucidity, yep that's the issue,  the external hard disk is fat  whatever
[15:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> my 8GB usb sticks are fat32 as well
[15:11] <TwistedLucidity> Do you need to use it on Windows?
[15:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> probably not with the right codec installed for sound
[15:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> otherwise it's just images
[15:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I did thinik this to, I either go NTFS or I  could try Ext4 or something
[15:12] <TwistedLucidity> As you don't need Windows support; Ext4 and fahgeddaboutit
[15:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> right but I still got to format the usb.  opening up gparted wasn't much good, ant just makek a partion, but right let's have a look at the link
[15:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> TwistedLucidity, it did copy mostly to fat32, but then  coudlt tell wasn't going to finnish
[15:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> TwistedLucidity, I have the pain of re installing WIndows as the next thing to do with the computer as well uh!
[15:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and upgrading things back to WIndows 10
[15:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> before any Linux  installs happen
[15:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> TwistedLucidity, planning on quad booing as well :d
[15:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Windows plus three Linux distros
[15:15] <TwistedLucidity> You can use NTFS, but IIRC there are performance issues with that on GNU/Linux.
[15:15] <TwistedLucidity> Or were; not checked in a l-o-n-g time
[15:15] <TwistedLucidity> I would thing Gparted would do it to. Just set the format after creating the single, whole-USB patition
[15:16] <TwistedLucidity> No idea how well Windows 10 plays with others; never used it
[15:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> TwistedLucidity, I think NTFS is ok, unless the partion isn't shut down properly
[15:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> then may not mount properly with Linux
[15:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that's what I remember from before
[15:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah having to open up Windows again, and clsoing down properly, so would detect in LINUX
[15:35] <MoBeats> [15:12:36]  TwistedLucidity:	As you don't need Windows support; Ext4 and fahgeddaboutit
[16:37] <diddledan> https://youtu.be/ySdaJbgO5gc
[18:44] <brobostigon> new job started today, woop, :)
[18:45] <popey> congrats
[18:45] <popey> how did it go?
[18:47] <brobostigon> it went well, walked around my supervisor ost of the afternoon, picking up inforation, no realy work done to be honest.
[18:47] <brobostigon> walked behind, i should say.
[18:51] <brobostigon> well, we did bring out some stock and organised it, but that was about it.
[19:05] <brobostigon> a toy shop, :)
[21:14] <foobarry> \o/
[21:15] <daftykins> \o/ what are we celebrating / stretching for? :D
[21:15] <foobarry> do they sell scale models?
[21:15] <foobarry> brobostigon?
[21:15] <brobostigon> foobarry: yes?
[21:15] <brobostigon> yes,
[21:16] <foobarry> :)
[21:16] <brobostigon> :)
[21:16] <foobarry> then it's the best kind
[21:16] <daftykins> one porsch model lego set please
[21:16] <daftykins> *Porsche
[21:16] <foobarry> also i think knex better than lego for kids
[21:16] <foobarry> my son is really enjoying actually making stuff creatively
[21:17] <foobarry> and not losing bespoke pieces all the time
[21:17]  * brobostigon was a maccano boy.
[21:20] <foobarry> i guess knex is the closest thing nowadays
[21:22] <brobostigon> fair point.
[21:22] <daftykins> mmm i had the rollercoaster
[21:22] <daftykins> i never made anything custom though, just followed instructions and then i was done :P
[21:23] <foobarry> meccano?
[21:23] <foobarry> or knew
[21:23] <foobarry> x
[21:23] <daftykins> knex rollercoaster, i only have very vague memories of meccano as if perhaps i never owned a model o0 not sure
[21:24] <foobarry> there's some knex models that are a bit 2D, that lend themselves to being made in 3D quite easily
[21:24] <daftykins> but every single variant i just followed instructions
[21:24] <foobarry> some knex kits have 40 models you can make
[21:25] <foobarry> so the 2D flat car could be replicated and then some joining pieces to the 2 parts to make a 3d car
[21:25] <brobostigon> whereas with maccano, you can make anything, you arent fixed.
[22:05] <daftykins> c'mon BBC, release the 4K blu-ray Planet Earth II :)
[22:06] <daftykins> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Planet-Earth-Blu-ray-Region-Free/dp/B01M629REH/ only 1080p right now
[22:43] <zmoylan-pi> they'll wait till people are clamouring for the 8k release before releasing the 4k version :-)
[22:45] <daftykins> heh
[22:46] <zmoylan-pi> and it'll be released on laserdisc :-P
[22:48] <daftykins> i'll hold out for the VHS
[22:49] <zmoylan-pi> and not the superior betamax version?
[22:49] <daftykins> that'd require a player
[22:49] <zmoylan-pi> or vcd...
[22:49] <daftykins> oof
[22:50] <daftykins> at leasy if i buy the client a 4K title i can keep the bluray version from inside :D
[22:50] <zmoylan-pi> squished down to a 100 megs per episode... :-P
[22:56] <daftykins> the 4K BD player's firmware update is 132MB!
[23:04] <diddledan> *sadface* https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-04/star-trek-youtube-fan-movie-ruled-not-to-be-fair-use
[23:06] <daftykins> mmhmm
[23:06] <daftykins> they should've parodied it, then it would've been fine!
[23:11] <zmoylan-pi> they have no probs with you making fan flicks if they're non profit so he must be trying to make dosh somewhere
[23:13] <zmoylan-pi> and iirc the term tricorder has an open use that rodenberry insisted on as he just knew someone would invent a practical version someday
[23:20] <daftykins> well they claimed the fan flic makers would gain from getting jobs in the industry, hah
[23:20] <zmoylan-pi> stretching the truth a little there...
[23:24] <zmoylan-pi> i seem to remember one fan based effort was raising money online and was hoping to make a small profit so got shut down for that reason
[23:27] <daftykins> heh