| superfly | Maaz: tell Kilos Good morning | 03:39 |
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| Maaz | superfly: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 03:39 |
| Kilos | morning superfly and everyone else | 05:36 |
| Kilos | oh and inetpro | 05:36 |
| Kilos | hehe | 05:36 |
| nlsthzn | goeie more suid afrika | 05:39 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn ill be off a while ian needs to use my lappy | 05:47 |
| nlsthzn | k, see later :) | 05:47 |
| chesedo | morning Kilos inetpro and all others | 06:02 |
| chesedo | s/inetpro/nlsthzn/ | 06:02 |
| chesedo | :D | 06:02 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 06:03 |
| superfly | Night Kilos, nlsthzn, chesedo. Time for me to go to sleep. | 06:05 |
| chesedo | night superfly | 06:06 |
| thatgraemeguy | mornings | 06:09 |
| theblazehen | Morning | 06:49 |
| Langjan | G'morning Kilos you well this morning? | 06:55 |
| Langjan | hi chesedo inetpro et al | 06:56 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan chesedo | 06:57 |
| Kilos | and theblazehen | 06:57 |
| Kilos | im ok ty Langjan and you? | 06:57 |
| Kilos | hi thatgraemeguy ` | 06:57 |
| Kilos | sleep tight superfly | 06:58 |
| Langjan | fine thks Kilos just need some help if youre up to it this morn | 06:58 |
| Kilos | of course | 06:58 |
| Kilos | explain the prob, ill be here in 2 mins | 06:59 |
| Langjan | thks running on lappie, I realised from your comments I need to reinstall win 7 on my computer so I disconnectd the ssd with ubuntu, then could not boot from win 7 DVD, no grub | 07:00 |
| Langjan | then I booted from ubuntu dvd | 07:00 |
| * Kilos slurps coffee | 07:01 | |
| Langjan | now, if possible, I would like to transfer some iso files from the win 7 to my external before reinstalling win 7 | 07:02 |
| Kilos | then you should be able to just drag drop them | 07:02 |
| Langjan | it says permission denied | 07:02 |
| Kilos | ok | 07:03 |
| Kilos | what does the ubuntu see it as | 07:03 |
| Kilos | /media | 07:03 |
| Kilos | or sda | 07:03 |
| Langjan | ok its copying them to the ubuntu desktop | 07:03 |
| === MaNL is now known as MaNI | ||
| Kilos | yay | 07:03 |
| Kilos | i was scared of you needing to do chown but it would have given you all the permissions | 07:04 |
| Langjan | but thats the live dvd will it work to my external drive from there? | 07:04 |
| Kilos | yes it should see the external | 07:04 |
| Langjan | ok doing thhat now | 07:05 |
| Kilos | is the external the one with permission probs or the drive | 07:05 |
| Langjan | theres a few to do | 07:05 |
| Langjan | no the drive with win 7 | 07:05 |
| Kilos | np im here all day | 07:05 |
| Kilos | oh that you coulda chowned | 07:05 |
| Langjan | thks | 07:06 |
| Langjan | files wont copy from dvd to external | 07:07 |
| Kilos | ok so | 07:08 |
| Langjan | permission denied | 07:08 |
| Kilos | you see a folder on the external that you want to copy to | 07:08 |
| Kilos | if not make one | 07:09 |
| Kilos | then try copy to that | 07:09 |
| Langjan | looks like permission is being denied to external | 07:09 |
| Langjan | it wont open a folder | 07:09 |
| Kilos | if it still gives permissions probs | 07:09 |
| Kilos | then | 07:09 |
| Langjan | installing samba ...? right? | 07:11 |
| Kilos | sudo chown -R /dev/ext | 07:11 |
| Kilos | read here | 07:11 |
| Kilos | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/chown.1.html | 07:11 |
| Langjan | ok | 07:11 |
| Kilos | i cant member is you need to sudo chown -R jan:jan (path to folders | 07:11 |
| Kilos | i think i had to use miles:miles in there | 07:12 |
| Kilos | you can even chown the whole external | 07:12 |
| Langjan | where do I put "jan" - after the R or after the dev/ext ? | 07:15 |
| Kilos | what does it see the external as | 07:15 |
| theblazehen | I think you can pass a user option to mount | 07:16 |
| theblazehen | Would be the right way to solve it I think | 07:16 |
| Langjan | hi theblazehen thks for helping | 07:16 |
| Kilos | ty theblazehen | 07:16 |
| Kilos | i always chown my externals | 07:17 |
| Langjan | Samsung_t3 | 07:17 |
| Kilos | the command i use is sudo chown -R miles:miles /media/devive name | 07:18 |
| Kilos | i name all my sticks and externals | 07:18 |
| theblazehen | Langjan can you pastebin the output of `mount` ? | 07:18 |
| Kilos | ill let theblazehen take over | 07:18 |
| Kilos | he cleverer | 07:18 |
| Langjan | theblazehen, its on a different machine running on ubuntu dvd, let me try connect to irc there? | 07:19 |
| theblazehen | No need for all that then | 07:20 |
| Langjan | ok | 07:20 |
| theblazehen | Run `mount -o remount,uid=$(whoami) /media/whateverItIs` | 07:21 |
| Langjan | ok | 07:21 |
| Langjan | It says mount point /media/Samsung_t3 does not exist | 07:25 |
| theblazehen | And it is there? ls /media | 07:26 |
| Langjan | cdrom ubuntu | 07:26 |
| Kilos | i always struggled with doing stuff from booted dvd | 07:27 |
| theblazehen | Ok. ls /dev/sd* | 07:27 |
| Langjan | output is /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 | 07:28 |
| theblazehen | mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt -o uid=$(id -u) | 07:29 |
| Langjan | sudo? | 07:30 |
| theblazehen | yes | 07:30 |
| Langjan | ok it just repromps is that right? | 07:32 |
| theblazehen | Yeah | 07:32 |
| theblazehen | Now open file manager, and go to /mnt | 07:32 |
| theblazehen | It should work for you | 07:32 |
| Langjan | where do I find /mnt ? | 07:33 |
| theblazehen | Go to file system option | 07:33 |
| Langjan | no file system option | 07:34 |
| theblazehen | Is there an option for / or something? | 07:34 |
| Langjan | not that I can see | 07:35 |
| theblazehen | Kilos- do you know how to get there? | 07:35 |
| Kilos- | get where | 07:36 |
| theblazehen | To /mnt in file manager | 07:36 |
| Kilos- | nope he uses unity | 07:36 |
| Kilos- | hehe | 07:36 |
| theblazehen | Ah | 07:36 |
| Kilos- | just chown the whole external man its only storage isnt it? | 07:37 |
| Kilos- | one command and game over | 07:37 |
| Kilos- | how can there be a /dev/sda and b | 07:37 |
| Langjan | yes only storage | 07:37 |
| Kilos- | there only one drive connected isnt there | 07:38 |
| Kilos- | and i would chown it from your drive directly not from dvd | 07:38 |
| Kilos- | go theblazehen | 07:38 |
| Kilos- | i use big hammers and often break things | 07:39 |
| theblazehen | It should be as right user, just not sure how to get to /mnt in unity file manager | 07:39 |
| Langjan | my drive is disconnected | 07:39 |
| theblazehen | Ah | 07:40 |
| Kilos- | when booting from dvd jan wont be seen as the right user\ | 07:46 |
| Kilos- | i think | 07:46 |
| Langjan | guys this is not serious, I can download the iso files again if and when I need them | 07:48 |
| Langjan | thats all there is on the win 7 installation | 07:49 |
| Kilos- | i would connect your drive in there again | 07:49 |
| Langjan | so all I need to do is to get into that drive to reinstall win 7 via this motherboard | 07:50 |
| Kilos- | boot from it then chown /dev/sdb1 | 07:50 |
| Kilos- | then copy all stuff to your drive then format sdb | 07:50 |
| Langjan | then disconnect again and reinstall win 7? | 07:51 |
| Kilos- | yes | 07:51 |
| Kilos- | thats how i would do it | 07:51 |
| Langjan | and theblazehen agrees? | 07:52 |
| theblazehen | Langjan see if you can do sudo nautilus | 07:53 |
| Langjan | ok | 07:53 |
| Kilos- | im busy repairing a van der merwe bed here at the same time | 07:54 |
| Kilos- | hehe | 07:54 |
| Langjan | it opened file mgr but says polease ask system admin to enable user sharing | 07:55 |
| Kilos- | looks so good from outside, but, ill post picks of how it was actuaslly made | 07:55 |
| Kilos- | sjoe | 07:55 |
| Langjan | theblazehen, and error 255 | 07:57 |
| theblazehen | Hmm. Dunno, sorry | 07:57 |
| Langjan | and "another desktop manager in use" | 07:57 |
| Langjan | thks theblazehen so let me follow Kilos- suggestion? | 07:58 |
| theblazehen | Langjan yeah | 07:58 |
| Langjan | ok thks for the help, appreciated | 07:59 |
| theblazehen | Sure | 07:59 |
| Kilos- | at times one needs to use large hammers | 08:03 |
| Langjan | Kilos-, can I not format that drive from the live dvd? | 08:12 |
| magespawn | good morning | 08:21 |
| calhax | Morning :) | 08:21 |
| Kilos- | yes you can Langjan | 08:25 |
| Kilos- | hi magespawn | 08:25 |
| calhax | morning Kilos- | 08:25 |
| Kilos- | open disk utility or gparted and format it | 08:25 |
| Kilos- | hi calhax | 08:26 |
| Langjan | Thks, already past that ans installing... | 08:26 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| Langjan | lost your tail eh mate? | 08:26 |
| calhax | Langjan, linux install party? | 08:26 |
| Kilos | sorry was busy helping ian get ready to go work | 08:26 |
| Langjan | hi calhax yes sort of | 08:27 |
| calhax | haha! awesome! I was doing the same thing yesterday, now just configuring | 08:28 |
| Langjan | Kilos, I think it will be better to use ubuntu on second drive as well for storage | 08:29 |
| Langjan | I will push win 7 into a little corner where it belongs in case I need it some time | 08:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:33 |
| Langjan | Better idea, I have banned Microsoft from this drive - its now gonna be exclusively Linux | 08:49 |
| Kilos | hee hee hee | 08:49 |
| Kilos | well done | 08:49 |
| Kilos | ms is only good for using up damaged sectors of a drive that only linux sees | 08:50 |
| Kilos | and for gaming | 08:50 |
| Langjan | Gaming corrupts the brain - whats left of it in Windows users' heads | 08:51 |
| Langjan | Sorry if I treaded on some toes here... | 08:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:53 |
| Langjan | Kilos, I have cd's and dvd's of just about all those iso files so was not worth the trouble to save them | 09:02 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:02 |
| Langjan | My system will feel much more comfy without a win install in the background | 09:06 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:08 |
| Langjan | I have a new Linux convert | 09:11 |
| Langjan | 'Bye for now guys, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS install is perfect | 09:37 |
| Kilos | toods Langjan | 09:39 |
| Kilos | be well | 09:39 |
| Squirm | Morning all | 09:39 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 09:40 |
| Langjan | Hello Kilos- | 17:40 |
| Kilos- | hi Langjan | 17:40 |
| Langjan | I see you got your tail back... | 17:40 |
| Langjan | keeping ok? | 17:41 |
| Kilos- | Kilos | 17:41 |
| Kilos- | where | 17:41 |
| Kilos- | hello | 17:41 |
| Kilos- | ai! | 17:41 |
| Langjan | mustve been my imagination | 17:41 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| Kilos | yip ok ty | 17:41 |
| Kilos | and you? | 17:41 |
| Langjan | I'm scared to reboot | 17:42 |
| Kilos | why | 17:42 |
| Kilos | reinstall grub-pc and grub-pc-bin then sudo update grub the reboot will be fine im sure | 17:43 |
| Langjan | there was no grub menu so I did boot-repair but when it asked if I want to purge grub I said no but am not sure where I am - if I run update-grub it fails | 17:43 |
| Kilos | do the reinstalls | 17:43 |
| Kilos | oh | 17:44 |
| Kilos | did you do that then swop drives? | 17:44 |
| Kilos | boot-repair dont like that | 17:44 |
| Langjan | no I put my drive back after installing ubuntu on the second drive | 17:44 |
| Langjan | then then I did boot- repair | 17:45 |
| Kilos | then you need to start it where you installed it from then unplug the one thats working then boot-repair fixes the other one | 17:45 |
| Kilos | you put your drive back | 17:46 |
| Kilos | so booting from new install still | 17:46 |
| Kilos | and it cant see old drive? | 17:46 |
| Langjan | no I set bios to boot from main drive | 17:46 |
| Langjan | and it sees the other drive fine | 17:47 |
| Kilos | so whats the prob | 17:47 |
| Kilos | reinstall grub-pc and grub-pc-bin | 17:48 |
| Langjan | just that I have no grub menu, not serious I suppose | 17:48 |
| Kilos | then sudo update-grub | 17:48 |
| Kilos | then see if you have a menu | 17:48 |
| Langjan | Output is command not found | 17:48 |
| Kilos | use aptitude | 17:49 |
| Kilos | huh | 17:49 |
| Kilos | output of what | 17:49 |
| Langjan | of sudo update-grub | 17:49 |
| Kilos | did you reinstall | 17:49 |
| Kilos | those 2 packages | 17:49 |
| Langjan | via synaptic? | 17:50 |
| Kilos | then grub must be there | 17:50 |
| Kilos | use aptitude | 17:50 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude reinstall grub-pc grub-pc-bin | 17:50 |
| Langjan | sudo aptitude reinstall grub-pc? | 17:50 |
| Kilos | yes and the pc-bin ones | 17:51 |
| Kilos | keep up old man | 17:51 |
| Kilos | i told you 3 times now | 17:51 |
| * Kilos hides | 17:51 | |
| Kilos | lemme check why dogs barking | 17:51 |
| Langjan | sudo: aptitude: command not found | 17:51 |
| Kilos | sudo apt install aptitude | 17:52 |
| Langjan | Be careful | 17:53 |
| Langjan | grub-pc is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled | 17:54 |
| Langjan | grub-pc-bin is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled. | 17:54 |
| Kilos | then | 17:54 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install grub-pc grub-pc-bin | 17:55 |
| Kilos | you told boot-repair to put grub somewhere else | 17:55 |
| Langjan | Dommie | 17:56 |
| Kilos | always try install on the pc where the drive will live as well | 17:57 |
| Kilos | otherwise it misses setting up the correct hardware | 17:57 |
| Langjan | Now theres a "configuring grub pc with a long message and <ok> at the bottom but does not react | 17:58 |
| Kilos | then you have graphics and sound probs | 17:58 |
| Langjan | Well thats what I did | 17:58 |
| Kilos | what doesnt react | 17:58 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:58 |
| Langjan | the message in the terminal | 17:58 |
| Kilos | all i taught you you still know nothing | 17:58 |
| Kilos | ai ai ai ai ai | 17:58 |
| Kilos | ok | 17:59 |
| Kilos | it doesnt react to enter | 17:59 |
| Kilos | ? | 17:59 |
| Langjan | no | 17:59 |
| Kilos | is there a little cursor line under that ok line | 17:59 |
| Kilos | a flashing - | 18:00 |
| Langjan | nothing | 18:00 |
| Kilos | ctrl+c | 18:00 |
| Langjan | nothing | 18:00 |
| Kilos | then run sudo aptitude reinstall grub-pc grub-pc-bin | 18:00 |
| Kilos | ok | 18:01 |
| Kilos | open another terminal | 18:01 |
| Langjan | must I kill terminal? | 18:01 |
| Kilos | no | 18:01 |
| Kilos | make a second one | 18:01 |
| Kilos | i sometimes have three or even 4 running same time | 18:01 |
| Langjan | ok did not know thats possible, done | 18:01 |
| Kilos | now do the reinstall of grub stuff again | 18:02 |
| Kilos | and look for error messages | 18:02 |
| Langjan | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 18:02 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:03 |
| Kilos | is synaptic open? | 18:03 |
| Langjan | no is it not the other terminal? | 18:03 |
| Kilos | yes | 18:03 |
| Kilos | its hung on something | 18:04 |
| Kilos | and i dunno if just killing it will make a diffs | 18:04 |
| Kilos | but you can try | 18:04 |
| Langjan | W: Could not lock the cache file; this usually means that dpkg or another apt tool is already installing packages. Opening in read-only mode; any changes you make to the states of packages will NOT be preserved! | 18:06 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:06 |
| Langjan | So I suppose that process was still running - is still running | 18:06 |
| Kilos | yes but its battling with something boot-repair left behind | 18:07 |
| Kilos | what you can do is take a chance and reboot | 18:07 |
| Kilos | and | 18:07 |
| Kilos | then if it wont boot boot from your install media and run boot-repair from there | 18:08 |
| Kilos | just make sure it puts grub on sda1 then | 18:08 |
| Kilos | or sda | 18:08 |
| Kilos | i forget | 18:08 |
| Langjan | ok will try and report back later | 18:08 |
| Kilos | ty | 18:08 |
| Langjan | its sdb1 | 18:08 |
| Kilos | good luck | 18:08 |
| Kilos | whats on sda1 | 18:09 |
| Kilos | nee man | 18:09 |
| Kilos | remove sda | 18:09 |
| Langjan | let me check | 18:09 |
| Langjan | sda1 is the new ubuntu installation on the second drive | 18:10 |
| Kilos | which one did you boot from | 18:10 |
| Langjan | I'm on sdb1 now | 18:10 |
| Langjan | my ssd | 18:10 |
| Kilos | did it boot from there | 18:10 |
| Kilos | or did you choose it in grub menu | 18:11 |
| Langjan | yes after I reset bios | 18:11 |
| Langjan | no grub menu | 18:11 |
| Kilos | so bios is telling it to boot from sdb | 18:11 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:11 |
| Kilos | unplug sda then and try reboot this one | 18:11 |
| Kilos | you have this drives grub on sda | 18:12 |
| Langjan | ok that makes sense | 18:12 |
| Langjan | is taht the only way out? Or live with it | 18:12 |
| Kilos | have only one drive in at a time | 18:13 |
| Kilos | and | 18:13 |
| Langjan | Dont need to boot from there, just storage | 18:13 |
| Kilos | install grub-pc and grub-pc-bin on each one | 18:13 |
| Kilos | and plug your ssd in as sda | 18:14 |
| Langjan | does that mean plug it in and boot it first | 18:14 |
| Kilos | why you want a bootable storage drive | 18:15 |
| Langjan | Not necessary, thats why I said just leave it be, provided it will reboot | 18:16 |
| Kilos | is the ssd the one with grub probs | 18:16 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:17 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:17 |
| Kilos | remove the other one | 18:17 |
| Langjan | not reallly probs, it boots fine, just does not show grub menu | 18:17 |
| Kilos | put ssd in sda sata socket | 18:17 |
| Kilos | then boot | 18:17 |
| Langjan | oh ok | 18:17 |
| Kilos | and use boot-repair from dvd if it wont | 18:17 |
| Langjan | ok thanks | 18:18 |
| Kilos | it is a prob because | 18:18 |
| Kilos | it will bug you like the kde boot splash | 18:18 |
| Kilos | ill be here | 18:18 |
| Kilos | feel free to call | 18:18 |
| Langjan | thks pal | 18:20 |
| Langjan | lekker aand | 18:20 |
| Langjan | will let you know | 18:20 |
| Langjan | But | 18:21 |
| Kilos | ill be here | 18:21 |
| Kilos | you should be gone for hours | 18:21 |
| Langjan | do I need an operating system on hdd to use it for storage? | 18:21 |
| Kilos | you welcome any time | 18:21 |
| Kilos | no | 18:21 |
| Kilos | but it can be there | 18:21 |
| Kilos | makes no diffs just have less storage space | 18:22 |
| Langjan | ? | 18:22 |
| Kilos | well if the os is there you cant use that area for storage | 18:22 |
| Langjan | you mean less space if it has an OS | 18:22 |
| Langjan | ok | 18:22 |
| Langjan | so format it to what? | 18:23 |
| Kilos | ext4 | 18:23 |
| Kilos | then no win pc can see it | 18:23 |
| Kilos | experiment with a stick | 18:23 |
| Langjan | will that create sda on ssd? | 18:24 |
| Kilos | format to ext4 , put files on then go plug it into a win pc | 18:24 |
| Kilos | if only sda is plugged in it cant be anywhere else | 18:24 |
| Kilos | dont do installs and stuff with 2 drives in | 18:24 |
| Kilos | and do install on the pc where the drive will live | 18:25 |
| Langjan | ok but hdd is sda now, if I format it will the system pick up ssd as sda? | 18:25 |
| Kilos | take it out and fix ssd first | 18:25 |
| Kilos | then worry about the hdd | 18:26 |
| Kilos | maybe even reinstall 16.04 on ssd from scratch | 18:26 |
| Kilos | with hdd lying far away | 18:26 |
| Langjan | fix ssd via install grub-pc and grub-pc-bin? | 18:26 |
| Kilos | try that first yes | 18:27 |
| Kilos | and boot-repair from disc | 18:27 |
| Kilos | if no good install fresh from dvd | 18:27 |
| Kilos | oh | 18:27 |
| Kilos | there is another thing | 18:27 |
| Langjan | ok thks | 18:27 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:27 |
| Kilos | wait | 18:27 |
| Kilos | you can make a bootable iso of your working hdd if you like | 18:28 |
| Kilos | then use that to install on ssd | 18:28 |
| Kilos | app is called systemback | 18:28 |
| Kilos | lekker backup tool | 18:28 |
| Langjan | why would I want to backup hdd with clean OS on it? | 18:29 |
| Kilos | i think its in the repos | 18:29 |
| Kilos | thats if your ssd repair dont work | 18:29 |
| Kilos | just another option | 18:29 |
| Kilos | then your ssd will boot as if you are in the hdd | 18:30 |
| Kilos | everything the same | 18:30 |
| Kilos | even remember passwords iirc | 18:30 |
| Langjan | It makes more sense to use systemback on ssd | 18:30 |
| Kilos | ssd is broken | 18:31 |
| Langjan | all my apps on there | 18:31 |
| Kilos | ok try that then but | 18:31 |
| Langjan | you mean because of grub menu? | 18:31 |
| Kilos | you might not be able to install | 18:31 |
| Kilos | because dpkg stuck | 18:31 |
| Kilos | try sytemback | 18:32 |
| Kilos | i dont think you will be able to install it | 18:32 |
| Kilos | lets try this | 18:33 |
| Langjan | Terminal is running again, target 'grub-pc-bin' is not a directory | 18:33 |
| Kilos | sud dpkg --configure -a | 18:33 |
| Kilos | see it was battling to find something | 18:33 |
| Langjan | dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process | 18:34 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:34 |
| Kilos | try reboot | 18:34 |
| Langjan | okj lets see | 18:34 |
| Kilos | then do what we been talking about | 18:34 |
| Kilos | boot-repair from dvd | 18:35 |
| Langjan | ok probably chat again tomorrow | 18:35 |
| Kilos | i use sticks | 18:35 |
| Langjan | slaap lekker | 18:35 |
| Kilos | faster than dvd | 18:35 |
| Kilos | jy ook dankie my vriend | 18:35 |
| Kilos | voorspoed | 18:35 |
| Langjan | Waiting for sticks | 18:36 |
| Langjan | slaap lekker | 18:36 |
| Langjan | Hi Kilos booting fine, no prob | 18:37 |
| Kilos | yoohoo | 18:37 |
| Kilos | now do reinstall grub-pc and grub-pc-bin | 18:38 |
| Kilos | use synaptic | 18:38 |
| Langjan | ok thks en slaap lekker, gonna watch voetspore now in Madagaskar | 18:38 |
| Langjan | will do | 18:38 |
| Kilos | lol ok lekker slaap | 18:38 |
| Langjan | mooi loop my vriend | 18:38 |
| Kilos | dankie | 18:38 |
| smile | Kilos: :DD | 18:46 |
| inetpro | goeiemore | 19:23 |
| Kilos | hi smile inetpro | 19:42 |
| superfly | Middag oom Kilos | 19:54 |
| Kilos | hi there superfly | 19:54 |
| Kilos | all good? | 19:54 |
| smile | bye :) | 20:04 |
| Kilos | cheers smile | 20:05 |
| Kilos | slaap well | 20:05 |
| superfly | All good | 20:24 |
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